Raptor had 37" tires from factory! Clearly not designed for drag strip racing. Put 33" or whatever that fugly Tundra had! Raptor would positively smoke it w/it's Gen2 H.O. Ecoboost & refined 10spd auto. Not even close folks!
It didn't really do that well, check out TFL's F150 XLT vs. the Raptor, the XLT doesn't just edge out a win, it runs away with it. The Raptor I much heavier than the regular F150 and 37's aren't doing it any favors either in a drag race.
Yep, then I'll start growing my hair too. I started losing mine around 20- something. Sucks, well it used to, now I just got used to it and shave it all off. Beard helped out too.
raptor is running big heavy tires from the factory while toyota put skinny small tires on their tundras.. so it's surprising that the raptor still kept up with a hybrid truck.
Great video! Was not expecting the end result! I would say the 37's were definitely a disadvantage to the Raptor even with the higher HP/TQ numbers.. Can't wait for the upcoming Tunda videos. Thanks TFL
Can’t wait to see what the Tundra Hybrid version will be capable of as far as speed once it comes out. I know it won’t be a huge difference but definitely faster and would like to see it up against other trucks as well.
I vote a redo of Raptor vs Tundra, that one really did come down to who got the better launch and reaction time. Closer than I expected honestly… Great vid boys!
@@JC71444 Yeah Toyota is obviously did them a favor letting them be "the very fist customer of the new tundra". Why would they do that? I was worried it might make tfl a little biased. Andre was awfully generous when talking about the tundra poor fuel economy. And for some reason they decided to cancel their episodes regarding the other 4 trucks they were supposed to be purchasing. I can't help but think there is something they aren't telling us about some deal they made with Toyota.
Fun to watch the races. On the other hand, I have never bought a truck to race. I don't care how fast a truck is, as long as it is dependable, durable, efficient, and hauls what I need it to. Seems that people buy vehicles to play with nowadays. Different strokes for different folks.
Yes, nowadays drag racing seems like the only factor to determine a good vehicle, from trucks to SUVs to family cars, etc. LOL! I see drag racing on every channel. 😂
Yes Toyota specified they want the Tundra to be a "family road trip" vehicle not so much a heavy duty truck since Ford and other USA brands already make super duty trucks
It'd be interesting to see the Tundra face off with an XLT with the the 3.5 EB. I think the widebody and 37's hurt the Raptor a bit in the straight line. Impressive showing from the Santa Cruz, also.
At a mile above sea level the frontier was at a huge disadvantage, they really need to do these races at sea level or atleast not a mile! Above sea level.
Can't wait to see the Tundra Hybrid compete in this event. Also, wondering if you are going to run all these trucks on a closed circuit track and assess their handling and ride dynamics. Maybe fastest track time, on same circuit with same driver?
The Santa Cruz did really well. I'm actually curious if it could match the Tundra by doing a rev'ed launch. It really was in there once the turbos spooled up. Fun video guys.
The photo finish camera angle is flawed. The angle used would give a few feet advantage to the Tundra. Raptor won if the camera was in line with the cones.
@@user-tb7rn1il3q you don't wanna stay in a particular gear, you wanna stay in the highest power RPM band possible. That will make sure that no matter the gearing you'll have the best possible wheel torque. If your power peak is close to the redline, you stay in lower gears, it's not always the case though. But the 35'' truck will do the same because why wouldn't it want to win? As for larger wheels: sure they don't weigh that much more than the 35s but they probably have significantly greater rotational inertia. Adding, let's say, 5 lbs to each wheel would slow the truck down much worse than throwing 20 lbs in the bed. And aside from wheels I bet Raptor 37 has biffier shafts, maybe even larger brakes - things that rotate, adding even more slugishness. And despite all that I still would prefer Raptor 37 over the regular one. The base Raptor is no longer the fastest truck, it isn't that much more offroad capable than the TRX or even the ZR2. But those 37s are something no other truck offers so far.
That Nissan Frontier has it. It’s a good looking truck with proven reliability. It’s a new V6, but Nissan has always made reliable NA engines and the Frontier has been pretty solid and dependable.
Yeah but it's still based off old VQ technology. It still can't break 22 mpg. Its a high revving motor that does not have much low end torque. They really did not improve the towing and bed capabilities. Truck still weighs allot. Even more then outgoing. After 16 years it can't even be considered a new generation. More of a refresh riding the the same F-alpha platform. The next gen Ranger/Colorado will most likely offer their 2.7 turbos which will destroy it. Its a nice truck but its not future proofed. Nissan should have offered a hybrid as well or smaller displacement with a turbo to offer more low end torque. Because moving forward, its going to be dead last for the low end and MPG's.
Must be v8 guys, that’s fine too they sound great. But this eco boost have been out for a decade now and I’ve never heard that motor sounds decent until now.
@@Painfulwhale360 Nah... I got my daughter a brand new Rav hybrid and there is a major issue with the fuel tank. And some (outside my vin range) have serious engine issues. I want to get all the things worked out.
@@yotagang3705 You're talking about that with certainty. The Tundra has a new frame, suspension, engine, and trans. There is no way to be certain it will be flawless. It's smart to wait a year or two after the release of a new model even if it's a Toyota. Believe it or not, but Toyotas do still have common issues especially when a new model is released. They're not immune to that. I know we're supposed to fall to our knees and worship any Toyota made, but the real world doesn't fit the holy scriptures of Toyota. 2AZ-FE, first gen 4 Runners 3.0 OHV V6 blowing head gaskets, FJ Cruisers front fenders cracking, Tacoma's rusting in half to name a couple hiccups.
The real test is F-150 3.5 vs Toyota non-hytbrid, and hybrid vs hybrid. See if the Toyota beats or loses to the 2.7TT too... Those are the real head-to-head matchups.
That was the non-hybrid version of the tundra as when he opened the hood you could see the battery. The hybrid version has the battery under the back seat so it was a fair race and the tundra won!!
@Self Made Auto yeah a big joke 70% of the Maverick orders have been hybrid. Hybrid already sold out for 2022 model year. But sure it's a joke. 42mpg is a joke I will laugh at everytime.
You guys are awesome 👏 ain’t looking those my favorite Raptor & Tundra for racers purpose, instead of just my daily routine driving , thanks again for showing up 👍
I'd say out of the group, the Santa Cruz was probably the most impressive, I mean it did only trail the new tundra by a fender being just a single turbo 4-banger. That said, I'd most likely take the frontier if I'm looking for a work truck. More capabilities than the Cruz, not as spendy as the full sizers, it should be less prone to failure, and it's a good looking truck. :)
This. I’m pretty much deciding between a Frontier and a Santa Cruz (I’m not really a fan of the Maverick’s looks even though it is really impressive in capability). The most trucky things I will do are haul dirt bikes and kayaks and help friends move. However, having that longer bed definitely helps with those things and the fuel economy in the Santa Cruz isn’t significantly better to make up the difference. The trim levels I would choose for each one are equally priced as well (SV vs SEL Premium). Plus, you get more street cred with the Frontier at truck shows. I do feel that the Santa Cruz power train is really underrated. It has more horsepower than the current Ford Ranger, and it has more torque than the Frontier as well. I think Hyundai has a good thing going with the Santa Cruz, and I look forward to seeing how they build on that. I would probably start with adding a hybrid AWD option before Ford does and maybe ditching the DCT (although at least it isn’t a CVT).
@@colten53 depending on the sort, if in theory, the cruz is rated at 3,500-4k lbs. max tow (I dont know what its rated at) and you'll at most tow 2k-2,500 lbs, itll probably be your go-to "truck". And if you need a bed that's 6' or longer, utility trailers are always a more affordable option. It's nice to get more than what's needed, but sometimes getting whats just right works especially if the price difference is there. My current "truck" is mine and my wifes '04 durango (5.7l v8, 8,700 lbs. max tow) and have used it to move one of my other vehicles (about 4k lbs.) across states. :)
Seriously? Rewatch Top Gear . It was funny. This was a couple fat guys driving pickups. Don't get me wrong, I enjoy watching this channel but it's never caused me so much as a chuckle whereas Top Gear commonly induced eye watering laughs.
*On paper I was worried that the Tundra would be faster* But surprisingly it's 0 to 60 was no faster than the raptor on 37's . 37's should be a huge disadvantage.
These drag races are pointless. Everyone can read the specs. Basically you need to know the official 0-60 time, sometimes things like wheel size or power to weight ratio. Without even watching I predicted all the results. It is still fun to watch but the results are too predictable.
Raptor on 37s is different from the 35s version. They have different frames and axle ratios and what not so the 37s version is a commitment if buying. Saw a detailed breakdown on thestraightpipes. So realistically it's weight mainly.
@@TRCKFRK 37s will kill your 0-60 even with different gears. Heck 35s will too, and 33s for that matter. What did the Tundra have? 32s? Just run the standard F150 and you will see. Heck even run a 2.7 EcoBoost, they pretty much run similar 0-60 as the 3.5 spoiler alert, it's faster than the Tundra.
@@bryanhersman4037 Exactly. I expected the Tundra, which is a F-150 EcoBoost clone, to pull away. I was actually surprised that the Raptor on 37's closed the gap. A stock F-150 is 6 seconds, even into the 5's with someone who knows their truck. And we've seen on this channel that a 5 Star Tuned F-150 4x4 can do 4.7 sec I've got a 2015 Platinum. My bro in law had a tune on his non Platinum 2015. He thinks the stock tune may be a bit better on the Platinum since his unturned wasn't as quick as mine. I still haven't tuned mine. It's already a super sleeper and tows great
This was so great! LOL awesome video guys!!! I have a 2011 Dodge Charger R/T, and cuz of your videos this year, my next vehicle will no doubt be a truck.
I love my 2012 ram and it holds its own against newer designs especially in torque hauling weight… they even get better fuel economy than ecoboost towing (according to TFL). It’s not always about how fast a truck is. However I know it’s about time for a little update to the hemi to keep it competitive against 20 year newer designs. It’s basically the same motor that came out in 2002/2003 with a couple improvements. Maybe direct injection?
I wonder how the GM 1500s with the 6.2 would have done compared to these two. Also would have been fun to throw in the TRX at the end, just to show the difference. I got passed by a TRX on a long stretch of road recently, he also passed the car in front of me, and the 18-wheeler in front of them. It was a very quick pass, and the thing sounded amazing.
Imagine if everything this TTV6 has was in the new Tacoma and the Tundra 22 had everything the TTV6 has but was upgraded to a TTV8 with a better battery type for the hybrid.
@@wonaldgrump9654 I doubt they'll do that, the F150 with the 3.5 has no difficulty breaking its tires loose just about any time it's in 2wd. A Tacoma with a similar engine would be unsafe to for most to drive.
Well it did "win" in that it was the quickest truck they tested here, just a slow driver reaction. It was quicker than the Tundra. The margin was similar to the difference between the Tundra and the Hyundai. Had they let similar driver error fly on that race the Hyundai would have "beaten" the Toyota.
Needed to test Tundra hybrid against Raptor. I know I know it’s not on the market yet. Just saying apples to apples would have been regular ford 150 with twin turbo eco boost.
F150 fx4 with the 3.5 would have matched the tundra or beat it. But the point of the video really wasn’t who’s the fastest it was about newest which the Raptor just barely came out while the current F150 been out for about 9 months now
@@scotturich sure the fx4 would beat it. That’s my whole point. Will it beat the Tundra hybrid is the question. More apples to apples. PS: most drag races are for the purpose of finding the “fastest”
Love this video that raptor is crazy fast and definitely the fastest in the group considering 37 inch tires that’s a power reduction of at least 50 hp to be really 937‘s also I would’ve liked to of seen the two hybrids the hybrid maverick and the F1 50 hybrid I think would’ve both done very well
That’s like saying the Santa Cruz is the fastest in the group becuase it doesn’t have as much hp as the raptor… what comes on the trucks factory is how they tested these… no mods so if tundra is the fastest , that’s how it is.
Always great videos, I do have one comment or thought for a change in 0-60 testing. I know everyone is always about 0-60 because it's been the go to test forever but I think it's kinda useless unless you are always trying to drag race people at a light. I wish more publications would publish/test two different passing scenarios. Maybe one from like 20-60 and another 50-80 or 60-90. I think those are much more useful. I know I have passed people on two lane roads in some rental cars that really ran out of steam. And manufacturers really play to the 0-60 because that'll be what everyone tests, so they will focus on these launch controls to get a good number but then its not something you can replicate yourself in real world.
In the Denver area, naturally aspirated engines are at a serious disadvantage. My next vehicle will definitely be turbo charged or electrified for those trips up I-70!
it can of course out tow the Maverick and Santa Cruz in the real world and will probably outlast them both. Wonder is they will ever come turbo from the factory.
When did Ford stop caring about Engine presentation? You raise the hood on every competitor and you've got a nice presentation. Raise the hood on the Ford and it looks like a bucket of nuts bolts hoses and wires… 😂😂
True story...Ford stopped including an engine cover on some 2021 Expeditions. The folks on the Expedition forum were comparing notes. I guess Ford ran out of parts.
Should've been best of 3, the Raptor lost because of a slow start and looked to be catching up. Let's be honest, the Raptor is the best truck of the group by a long shot. What's the price difference between the Tundra and Raptor?
The regular F150's are the quickest in the fleet, the Tremor would be a good match for the TRD, and I bet that'd be close though I'd expect the Tremor to edge out the win.
@@Steve-yr5vi Does the F-150 Tremor come in Four wheel drive? If it doesn’t, that would not be a good comparison in my opinion, the best comparison is the Ford Raptor on 35’s and the TRD pro Tundra with the hybrid motor, both are similar in power minus the tires, and they are both top of the line in the off road category.
@@jeffreycuellar241 Yeah tremor has 34s lift and 4wd. It still beats the tundra easily. Pretty sure the raptor with 37s and all the extra suspension weight is one of the slower f 150s.
I’d still take the Frontier over the Cruz I could careless about speed. Frontier would last longer In the long term plus a small lift and bigger tires looks awesome on these
I know this was tested in a different location than the test with the Maverick Hybrid, but I find it interesting that the AWD 2.0 turbo Maverick is only marginally faster to 60 than the hybrid. Seems like the Maverick hybrid did 0-60 in like 7.95 seconds vs like 7.75 in the turbo. Granted, the hybrid would probably get progressively slower if you kept in the throttle since the little battery would probably be fully discharged before the end of a 1/4 mile, but still interesting to see that the Maverick turbo was only marginally faster. Also, I strongly dislike the pumped in/phony V8 noise in the Tundra (or fake noises in general). Car manufacturers should either embrace the noise that their engines naturally make or focus on making the interior noise quieter, not filling it with a fake sound.
Nathan holding the packagefor the hair product was rich .Couldn’t have picked a more convincing model. Laugh my ass off. This was just too damn funny. If your hair starts falling out that’s not a choice. Shaving your head is 💪
I wasn't expecting that. I thought you would need Tundra Hybrid to beat the Raptor. On another note with Toyota having turbo now can it be reliable as N/A? Can Toyota still keep the king of reliability tag?
@@CACressida I hope they continue to keep quality and reliability as first priority. I think they try to build the fastest 0-60 or fast baja running truck what journalist wants vs what people wants. For example TRD exhaust. Journalist love it and I hate it. So annoying. When Toyota released the diesel engine video I really thought they will bring in 2.8 turbo diesel or 4.5 turbo diesel to USA. I "think" those are the things people want. (I could be wrong).
The Tundra wasn't having to move a 37" tire. That Raptor was making more power for sure. A normal F-150 with the 3.5L EB likely would have been faster than any of these trucks.
The Raptor did really well. Based on this Tundra's spec, it is about 5500#. The Raptor in this spec is about 5900#. The new Tundra TRD Pro is about 6000# so closer to the Raptor's weight. The Tundra TRD Pro comes with the higher rated hybrid powerplant that won't be available until next year.
The Hyundai did good, just not sure about the use of a dual clutch in that type of vehicle. A torque converter would seem more appropriate…. The difference at the finish line between the raptor and the tundra was just reaction time at the starting line. The raptor is quicker ….
I noticed that the TRL rarely get the chance to test the vehicles from Rivian and Hummer. Is scheduling the real reason for declining, or is it something else
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The TRX no show? lol 😂 🥇 winner hands down no competition
No Honda ridge line?
Ford Raptor & Maverick #1
@@scottjohnson5828 Nah Raptor is King. TRX Is far nicer tho than that funky Tundra. Ugh.
Raptor had 37" tires from factory! Clearly not designed for drag strip racing. Put 33" or whatever that fugly Tundra had! Raptor would positively smoke it w/it's Gen2 H.O. Ecoboost & refined 10spd auto. Not even close folks!
3:51 Maveric Turbo vs Santa Cruz Turbo
5:42 Frontier vs Santa Cruz Turbo
7:48 Tundra vs Santa Cruz Turbo
9:28 Tundra vs Raptor
You forgot the awesome Keeps video at 1:32. Thanks!
Thank you so much 🙏
Doing God's work, thanks
You basically spoiled the whole video except for the last run
@@A_Atuatasi Their videos are 1/3 or 1/4 the length of those 'other' videos. They don't need time stamps for this content.
That was fun to watch. Would be interesting to see what the hybrid version of the Tundra would do if the stock engine does that well.
Wondering the same thing
I want to see that too, but can't wait to see tuned Tundra Hybrids. They will be fast. Add couple more pounds of boast.
Spank that Raptor like it was nothing!!!
@@jaytrock3217 - I'm looking forward to seeing what OVtune can do with the new hybrid Tundra. Or maybe the KDMax crew.
The hybrid would help it get off the line faster for sure.
I was not expecting the Tundra do to that well. Can’t wait to see the I-Force Max that’s the power train I’m interested in!
It didn't really do that well, check out TFL's F150 XLT vs. the Raptor, the XLT doesn't just edge out a win, it runs away with it. The Raptor I much heavier than the regular F150 and 37's aren't doing it any favors either in a drag race.
@@Steve-yr5vi that was tuned
@@TheFilmsForDays the engine in the tundra is basically the ecoboost engine so not that surprising
That's not even the strongest Tundra power plant.
So well??? The raptor was running with 37s 😂
Where is Andre? Still recovering from his road trip? 🙂
Trying to fix the Buhanka😉👍👍
I think his Powerboost would have best all of these trucks lol.
The real question is where is the faawd fukn Raynger 😂😂😂
Not Andre but Andrey
@@hyattgotti3052 in the shop!
If Nathan starts using keeps and I see his hair come back, I'll be a customer for LIFE
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Yep, then I'll start growing my hair too. I started losing mine around 20- something. Sucks, well it used to, now I just got used to it and shave it all off. Beard helped out too.
LOL the commercial for Keeps at the end with Nathan "I didn't say anything" 😂
Nathan should be nominated for an academy award for the Keeps commercial.
I really enjoy these drag races. Lots of fun to watch. Thanks guys
BIAS
I had the biggest smile when the raptor and tundra were so close while racing
This may be the strangest mish-mash of trucks going heads up yet!! I love it!
Unfortunately he was found dead
Tundra outsmart Raptor wow
raptor is running big heavy tires from the factory while toyota put skinny small tires on their tundras.. so it's surprising that the raptor still kept up with a hybrid truck.
You boys are killing it with the content these days!!
Great video! Was not expecting the end result! I would say the 37's were definitely a disadvantage to the Raptor even with the higher HP/TQ numbers.. Can't wait for the upcoming Tunda videos. Thanks TFL
Can’t wait to see what the Tundra Hybrid version will be capable of as far as speed once it comes out. I know it won’t be a huge difference but definitely faster and would like to see it up against other trucks as well.
Then we'll have to put Andre's truck against it
@ Self Made Auto 2022 TRD Pro Tundra won’t be delivered till March 2022 🤣🤣
Self Made A$$
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@Self Made Auto stop lying bro it’s not even out yet 😂
I am expecting the Tundra Hybrid and the F 150 Powerboost to be equal speed wise
@Self Made Auto lol. Its production doesn’t start until spring next year lol. I think you got the old 2021 v8 version
Great video, didn't think the Tundra would win, wow :-)
I vote a redo of Raptor vs Tundra, that one really did come down to who got the better launch and reaction time. Closer than I expected honestly…
Great vid boys!
Exactly, wonder why they didn’t redo it… oh wait they just got the tundra from Toyota so it fits.
I wish they’d use a drag strip which was 2x longer than the current one.
@@JC71444 Yeah Toyota is obviously did them a favor letting them be "the very fist customer of the new tundra". Why would they do that? I was worried it might make tfl a little biased. Andre was awfully generous when talking about the tundra poor fuel economy. And for some reason they decided to cancel their episodes regarding the other 4 trucks they were supposed to be purchasing. I can't help but think there is something they aren't telling us about some deal they made with Toyota.
@@JC71444 Toyota didn't give it to them. They bought it.
@@NWI_Steel Read damons comment
Can't wait for my 2022 Tundra hybrid. My beastie is getting a 2022 Maverick. Should we race? Love❤ 😍 💖 the Tundra. Can't wait!
If Nathan growns his hair back im going to buy keeps
Fun to watch the races. On the other hand, I have never bought a truck to race. I don't care how fast a truck is, as long as it is dependable, durable, efficient, and hauls what I need it to. Seems that people buy vehicles to play with nowadays. Different strokes for different folks.
im the same in that ill take the smaller motor to save gas
Yes, nowadays drag racing seems like the only factor to determine a good vehicle, from trucks to SUVs to family cars, etc. LOL! I see drag racing on every channel. 😂
Yes Toyota specified they want the Tundra to be a "family road trip" vehicle not so much a heavy duty truck since Ford and other USA brands already make super duty trucks
In a rolling race the Santa Cruz would have been hard to beat. It kept up with the Tundra towards the end.
Sold Hyundai's for years, I love the regular Ol'2.0 turbo always an impressive engine!!!
Yup but it isn’t a truck
Not a truck.
@@robertoavalosjr.2529 It's a cruck
@@opinion-eater432 The Santa Cruz has the more powerful 2.5T.
Little engines , big turbo's , sometimes 2 . Interesting to see how long before 💥
It'd be interesting to see the Tundra face off with an XLT with the the 3.5 EB. I think the widebody and 37's hurt the Raptor a bit in the straight line. Impressive showing from the Santa Cruz, also.
Put the original 35’s back on and it would be the raptor. Put 33’s on it well you know lol
@@LexVVTiS300 hey Toyota turd fan boy enjoy it but take them off road and that turd yota will get ass kicked.
The camera being at an angle is an issue.
@@thunderroad7289 can't wait to find on road dead! Oh that's the raptor
@@shrayesraman5192 can't wait for f#cked over Rebuilt Dogshíts like Junkota , Chevy , dodge etc ie Raptor
Unlike other UA-cam drag race(Carwow etc…)you guys made this fun to watch without all the annoying talking point and fake drag race.
The Santa Cruz did a lot better than what I thought it would do, and the poor Frontier chocked! Great video guys!
Frontier all day!
At a mile above sea level the frontier was at a huge disadvantage, they really need to do these races at sea level or atleast not a mile! Above sea level.
Can't wait to see the Tundra Hybrid compete in this event. Also, wondering if you are going to run all these trucks on a closed circuit track and assess their handling and ride dynamics. Maybe fastest track time, on same circuit with same driver?
but let's be honest, it won't be relevant, no sane person would use the road as a track
The Santa Cruz did really well. I'm actually curious if it could match the Tundra by doing a rev'ed launch. It really was in there once the turbos spooled up. Fun video guys.
You can't brake torque a DCT vehicle, especially a Hyundai DCT. If it had launch control, it probably would have been neck and neck.
@@JustinKelly ? I had a gti and you can definitely launch it.
This is quickly becoming my favorite UA-cam channel.
I would have liked to see the F150 3.5L Power Boost vs Tundra over the Raptor, or even the Ecoboost, but fun races otherwise.
F-150 Powerboost will smoke the Tundra. Andrey's truck laid down consistent sub 6 second 0-60's. The fastest was 5.61.
@@putmeincoach7663 The Tundra Max would beat the powerboost. So it should be ecoboost vs standard TTV6 and Powerboost vs Max.
@@1119-w3u no
@@ryan74701 Yeah it will, the iforce max is slightly more powerful than the powerboost.
That’s right Ford is still the top dog.
Now drag race them up to 300k and see who loses lol
My 24 pro hybrid has smoked multiple raptors by over a car length sometimes 2 not even in sport mode lol
Who really keeps their truck to 300,000 miles. 😂 The average person keeps their vehicle 5 years and 70,000 miles.
@@Cincithebest513Yeah probably a Gen 2, come race my Gen 3, it’ll gap you.
Yup
The photo finish camera angle is flawed. The angle used would give a few feet advantage to the Tundra. Raptor won if the camera was in line with the cones.
Theirs always a reason if your fan if it. In this video tundra won .
Started laughing when he said “(Raptor) sounds faster” and they’re literally neck and neck haha
I really like the spec of the Raptor with the orange Ford on the grill. Also really quick considering it has 37s.
That means nothing. You can change the differential ratios to fix that
@@rawsjay4119 to my knowledge Ford doesnt use different gears in the model equipped with 37's though.
@@ALMX5DP they don’t
@@rawsjay4119 Different gears will change the shift points for sure, but they will not offset the additional mass of the larger tires.
Should of brake boosted the raptor a little might of got them big tires out front .
Those 37's killed the Raptor!!
I’m curious how much faster the Raptor with 35’s is versus the Raptor with 37’s. Adding larger and heavier tires really slows a vehicle down.
Not to mention the larger’s effect on gearing.
Not really. You can stay in lower gears longer. The slow down from extra weight is nothing in a heavy truck.
Don’t forget about the weight of the truck and wind resistance of wider body work.
For a equal comparison to the Yota put 33” tires on and race them.
@@user-tb7rn1il3q you don't wanna stay in a particular gear, you wanna stay in the highest power RPM band possible. That will make sure that no matter the gearing you'll have the best possible wheel torque. If your power peak is close to the redline, you stay in lower gears, it's not always the case though. But the 35'' truck will do the same because why wouldn't it want to win?
As for larger wheels: sure they don't weigh that much more than the 35s but they probably have significantly greater rotational inertia. Adding, let's say, 5 lbs to each wheel would slow the truck down much worse than throwing 20 lbs in the bed. And aside from wheels I bet Raptor 37 has biffier shafts, maybe even larger brakes - things that rotate, adding even more slugishness.
And despite all that I still would prefer Raptor 37 over the regular one. The base Raptor is no longer the fastest truck, it isn't that much more offroad capable than the TRX or even the ZR2. But those 37s are something no other truck offers so far.
That Nissan Frontier has it. It’s a good looking truck with proven reliability. It’s a new V6, but Nissan has always made reliable NA engines and the Frontier has been pretty solid and dependable.
Yeah but it's still based off old VQ technology. It still can't break 22 mpg. Its a high revving motor that does not have much low end torque. They really did not improve the towing and bed capabilities. Truck still weighs allot. Even more then outgoing. After 16 years it can't even be considered a new generation. More of a refresh riding the the same F-alpha platform. The next gen Ranger/Colorado will most likely offer their 2.7 turbos which will destroy it. Its a nice truck but its not future proofed. Nissan should have offered a hybrid as well or smaller displacement with a turbo to offer more low end torque. Because moving forward, its going to be dead last for the low end and MPG's.
@@HiPlains1 I wouldnt really call the 2.7 engines future proofed
Reliability over any over hyped technology. Frontier all day.
@@HiPlains1 then explain my 24 mpg average lol
At least tell me what your getting 24 MPG's with. Dude, this is one year old post. And your commit tells me you have 24 MPGs average. Of what? LOL.
Best Keeps ad I've seen yet. I needed the chuckles this morning fellas, thanks much🤙 Good vidjéo too!
New Tundra is amazing!!! This ain’t even the Engine with higher HP 😳😳
Yea same for the raptor,there is a RAPTOR “R”
SUPERCHARGED V8
@@alexcampos4613 ONLY 30k more than Tundra 🤣
Also the F150 offers a better engine aswell while down on hp it's got more tq the 3.5 powerboost pushing 430ho and 570 ftlbs
@@Grizz6601 Hybrid Tundra has better numbers & more reliable. My buddy’s F150 Transmission went out at 27k miles 😬😬
That raptor exhaust sounds fantastic.
For a Corvair. 🙄
sounds like a nissan 350z. not a truck
Must be v8 guys, that’s fine too they sound great. But this eco boost have been out for a decade now and I’ve never heard that motor sounds decent until now.
Just for the heck of it, do a Roll in the Santa Cruz vs the Raptor and Tundra. I think the little trucklet will surprise a lot of people.
Impressive. Holding out for the hybrid version (and all bugs to be worked out).
They’ve been working on the tundra forever now so they better have the bugs worked out lol
@@Painfulwhale360 Nah... I got my daughter a brand new Rav hybrid and there is a major issue with the fuel tank. And some (outside my vin range) have serious engine issues. I want to get all the things worked out.
Just get the F150. Toyota is copying it anyway
@@FranklinBurns42 its a yota truck, dependable as a sunday morning
@@yotagang3705 You're talking about that with certainty. The Tundra has a new frame, suspension, engine, and trans. There is no way to be certain it will be flawless. It's smart to wait a year or two after the release of a new model even if it's a Toyota. Believe it or not, but Toyotas do still have common issues especially when a new model is released. They're not immune to that. I know we're supposed to fall to our knees and worship any Toyota made, but the real world doesn't fit the holy scriptures of Toyota. 2AZ-FE, first gen 4 Runners 3.0 OHV V6 blowing head gaskets, FJ Cruisers front fenders cracking, Tacoma's rusting in half to name a couple hiccups.
The real test is F-150 3.5 vs Toyota non-hytbrid, and hybrid vs hybrid. See if the Toyota beats or loses to the 2.7TT too... Those are the real head-to-head matchups.
That would be a awesome test. Seeing the tundra beat the raptor, I’m confident it’ll beat the 2.7.
But the 3.5 TT matchup will be nice
This was already the Nonhybrid Tundra vs F150 3.5
That was the non-hybrid version of the tundra as when he opened the hood you could see the battery. The hybrid version has the battery under the back seat so it was a fair race and the tundra won!!
The hybrid Tundra wont be out till next year. This was the non-hybrid.
@@mikeligit But that Raptor isn't the fastest F-150. Just the most expensive.
You need to have the hybrid Maverick and do a how many times they have to refuel in a 2 week time span
Too applicable to the real-world use of a pickup...
Or how many times you would have to get a hotel and spend the night… From point a to point B
@Self Made Auto yeah a big joke 70% of the Maverick orders have been hybrid. Hybrid already sold out for 2022 model year. But sure it's a joke. 42mpg is a joke I will laugh at everytime.
Raptor exhaust sound reminds of the 6.0 power stroke with aftermarket exhausts.
Or Chewbacca.
Or a constipated whale.
I started chuckling watching Nathan on the Keep's segment, expecting something...lol.
You guys are awesome 👏 ain’t looking those my favorite Raptor & Tundra for racers purpose, instead of just my daily routine driving , thanks again for showing up 👍
Great video. If I didnt see it with my eyes, I wouldn't believe it. Let's go Tundra!
I'd say out of the group, the Santa Cruz was probably the most impressive, I mean it did only trail the new tundra by a fender being just a single turbo 4-banger. That said, I'd most likely take the frontier if I'm looking for a work truck. More capabilities than the Cruz, not as spendy as the full sizers, it should be less prone to failure, and it's a good looking truck. :)
This. I’m pretty much deciding between a Frontier and a Santa Cruz (I’m not really a fan of the Maverick’s looks even though it is really impressive in capability). The most trucky things I will do are haul dirt bikes and kayaks and help friends move. However, having that longer bed definitely helps with those things and the fuel economy in the Santa Cruz isn’t significantly better to make up the difference. The trim levels I would choose for each one are equally priced as well (SV vs SEL Premium). Plus, you get more street cred with the Frontier at truck shows. I do feel that the Santa Cruz power train is really underrated. It has more horsepower than the current Ford Ranger, and it has more torque than the Frontier as well. I think Hyundai has a good thing going with the Santa Cruz, and I look forward to seeing how they build on that. I would probably start with adding a hybrid AWD option before Ford does and maybe ditching the DCT (although at least it isn’t a CVT).
@@colten53 depending on the sort, if in theory, the cruz is rated at 3,500-4k lbs. max tow (I dont know what its rated at) and you'll at most tow 2k-2,500 lbs, itll probably be your go-to "truck". And if you need a bed that's 6' or longer, utility trailers are always a more affordable option. It's nice to get more than what's needed, but sometimes getting whats just right works especially if the price difference is there. My current "truck" is mine and my wifes '04 durango (5.7l v8, 8,700 lbs. max tow) and have used it to move one of my other vehicles (about 4k lbs.) across states. :)
frontier for sure... new frontier looks awesome especially the pro4x imho they killed the refresh
“Nissan” and “less prone to failure” don’t belong in the same paragraph.
@@thurmanjr7 we're not talking about their car line-up, lol.
How do submit that commercial for an award? Great video gentlemen, funny ass commercial.👍
Came for the drag race, stayed for the Keeps ad 🤣
TFL you are what "Top gear USA" should have been!!!!!!! You guys have all the ingredients from the "Old Top Gear BBC" (Jeremy, Richard, and James)
Seriously? Rewatch Top Gear . It was funny. This was a couple fat guys driving pickups. Don't get me wrong, I enjoy watching this channel but it's never caused me so much as a chuckle whereas Top Gear commonly induced eye watering laughs.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂🤣 Nathan’s face during the Keeps ad 😂😂😂😂
Relax everyone! For entertainment purposes only. In the real world no one cares who's truck is fastest to 60.
I do... 😂
Wow! Thanks for that awesome video! I can’t wait to see more comparisons! I was floored by the results!
how u guys always bring out the best content? another great video
*On paper I was worried that the Tundra would be faster*
But surprisingly it's 0 to 60 was no faster than the raptor on 37's .
37's should be a huge disadvantage.
If they would have raced the trd pro with the hybrid engine the tundra would have won by a lot more with those 37’s on the raptor
These drag races are pointless. Everyone can read the specs. Basically you need to know the official 0-60 time, sometimes things like wheel size or power to weight ratio. Without even watching I predicted all the results. It is still fun to watch but the results are too predictable.
Raptor on 37s is different from the 35s version. They have different frames and axle ratios and what not so the 37s version is a commitment if buying. Saw a detailed breakdown on thestraightpipes. So realistically it's weight mainly.
@@TRCKFRK 37s will kill your 0-60 even with different gears. Heck 35s will too, and 33s for that matter. What did the Tundra have? 32s? Just run the standard F150 and you will see. Heck even run a 2.7 EcoBoost, they pretty much run similar 0-60 as the 3.5 spoiler alert, it's faster than the Tundra.
@@bryanhersman4037 Exactly.
I expected the Tundra, which is a F-150 EcoBoost clone, to pull away. I was actually surprised that the Raptor on 37's closed the gap.
A stock F-150 is 6 seconds, even into the 5's with someone who knows their truck.
And we've seen on this channel that a 5 Star Tuned F-150 4x4 can do 4.7 sec
I've got a 2015 Platinum.
My bro in law had a tune on his non Platinum 2015. He thinks the stock tune may be a bit better on the Platinum since his unturned wasn't as quick as mine.
I still haven't tuned mine. It's already a super sleeper and tows great
This was so great! LOL awesome video guys!!! I have a 2011 Dodge Charger R/T, and cuz of your videos this year, my next vehicle will no doubt be a truck.
Okay, I hate the imbedded commercials but this one was hilarious!!!
Gotta say... the new Frontier looks really good.
I would have added a 6.2gm and ram hemi to this as well (even though they aren't "all new")
I love my 2012 ram and it holds its own against newer designs especially in torque hauling weight… they even get better fuel economy than ecoboost towing (according to TFL). It’s not always about how fast a truck is. However I know it’s about time for a little update to the hemi to keep it competitive against 20 year newer designs. It’s basically the same motor that came out in 2002/2003 with a couple improvements. Maybe direct injection?
Why can't people listen? Is it really that hard?
@@hi4429
Yeah they should have put a TRX in the mix. Gladiator eco diesel too.
good for comparison but at that elevation .... TT v6's would take it im sure. look at the hyundai vs. the frontier just for example.
I wonder how the GM 1500s with the 6.2 would have done compared to these two. Also would have been fun to throw in the TRX at the end, just to show the difference. I got passed by a TRX on a long stretch of road recently, he also passed the car in front of me, and the 18-wheeler in front of them. It was a very quick pass, and the thing sounded amazing.
lol you have to get lucky to get a gm 6.2 motor that won’t blow up first
Ya, Those Trx's are very fast. My neighbor bought one. I like my 08 tundra but, the new one is really nice..
the 6.2 being n/a at that elevation against 2 twin turbo v6's probably wouldnt do so well.
@@armyhylander6361 good point. At sea level though, I think I would prefer to own the 6.2 over the other two choices.
The gm would lose.
Looks like off road challenge is needed. Raptor is an off road truck, even if 90% of Raptor owners never see dirt.
*99%
Imagine if the Tundra had the hybrid system. I say low to high six second 0-60 time at least.
They have one coming out soon
Imagine if everything this TTV6 has was in the new Tacoma and the Tundra 22 had everything the TTV6 has but was upgraded to a TTV8 with a better battery type for the hybrid.
@@wonaldgrump9654 I doubt they'll do that, the F150 with the 3.5 has no difficulty breaking its tires loose just about any time it's in 2wd. A Tacoma with a similar engine would be unsafe to for most to drive.
And put it on 37’s.
Can’t wait for the TRD Pro
Great job! I was thinking the Raptor would win with its more powerful engine. Looking forward to the rest of the series.
It’s heavier and on 37” off road tires.The standard Raptor on 35s would have beat the Tundra
Well it did "win" in that it was the quickest truck they tested here, just a slow driver reaction. It was quicker than the Tundra. The margin was similar to the difference between the Tundra and the Hyundai. Had they let similar driver error fly on that race the Hyundai would have "beaten" the Toyota.
@@bryanhersman4037 from the launch it kinda appeared that the Raptor's hood raises before the Tundras. Makes it seem like it got a pretty fair start.
@@ALMX5DP but fan boys want to win all the time! All they can do is cry and type in the comments now! Not fair! 🤧😭
Nathan is Gold in the Keeps clip!!
Curious how the hybrid tundra will perform
Close to F5
@@maxospreys2964 whats F5?
@@fakedazzleful LOL, I was relating to Venom F5, but its almost 3X faster than a Hybrid we are talking about here
Love the infomercial by Kase & Nathan, love it, cheers Kirk
Needed to test Tundra hybrid against Raptor. I know I know it’s not on the market yet. Just saying apples to apples would have been regular ford 150 with twin turbo eco boost.
F150 fx4 with the 3.5 would have matched the tundra or beat it. But the point of the video really wasn’t who’s the fastest it was about newest which the Raptor just barely came out while the current F150 been out for about 9 months now
@@scotturich sure the fx4 would beat it. That’s my whole point. Will it beat the Tundra hybrid is the question. More apples to apples. PS: most drag races are for the purpose of finding the “fastest”
Apples to apples will be Tundra hybrid vs Ford hybrid.
@@bobdennis4801 yep
@@fritty9927 it was just a drag race of the newest vehicles that are available now, that simple.
the look on Nathan's face during the ad read, lol.
Love this video that raptor is crazy fast and definitely the fastest in the group considering 37 inch tires that’s a power reduction of at least 50 hp to be really 937‘s also I would’ve liked to of seen the two hybrids the hybrid maverick and the F1 50 hybrid I think would’ve both done very well
That’s like saying the Santa Cruz is the fastest in the group becuase it doesn’t have as much hp as the raptor… what comes on the trucks factory is how they tested these… no mods so if tundra is the fastest , that’s how it is.
@@nightexpresss101 lol 😂
@@nightexpresss101 35’s come stock on the raptor. The 37’s are an added package.
@@nightexpresss101 Raptor = 7.02 sec Tundra =7.13 sec, do you actually know how to separate et and reaction time; RAPTOR is the QUICKEST !!
@@nightexpresss101 Well, the Ford is quicker. When drag racing *to actually compare vehicles* one uses only the time, not the finish line results.
And you can get the Tundra with that motor for like 45k where the Raptor is like 80k. Lol
Hopefully Hyundai will put their 3.5l twin turbo engine in the Santa Cruz sometime in the future. Possible N variant.
Always great videos, I do have one comment or thought for a change in 0-60 testing. I know everyone is always about 0-60 because it's been the go to test forever but I think it's kinda useless unless you are always trying to drag race people at a light. I wish more publications would publish/test two different passing scenarios. Maybe one from like 20-60 and another 50-80 or 60-90. I think those are much more useful. I know I have passed people on two lane roads in some rental cars that really ran out of steam. And manufacturers really play to the 0-60 because that'll be what everyone tests, so they will focus on these launch controls to get a good number but then its not something you can replicate yourself in real world.
In the Denver area, naturally aspirated engines are at a serious disadvantage. My next vehicle will definitely be turbo charged or electrified for those trips up I-70!
Your truck gets faster with less air?
not a fan of Nissan trucks but i do respect the naturally aspirated powerplant.....nice and reliable
it can of course out tow the Maverick and Santa Cruz in the real world and will probably outlast them both. Wonder is they will ever come turbo from the factory.
When did Ford stop caring about Engine presentation? You raise the hood on every competitor and you've got a nice presentation. Raise the hood on the Ford and it looks like a bucket of nuts bolts hoses and wires… 😂😂
True story...Ford stopped including an engine cover on some 2021 Expeditions. The folks on the Expedition forum were comparing notes. I guess Ford ran out of parts.
Bronco has to be the worst in the auto industry 😂 never seen something so ugly
Its been like that for a long time on most Ford's.
"One Adam 12: illegal drag racing going on..."
"They can't outrun this baby. Does zero to sixty in seven seconds!"
(1970 Chrysler police cruiser)
It seems like the hybrid twin turbo Tundra will be a very fast truck... Great video guys.
That raptor keeping up with 37s is impressive just milliseconds behind
Should've been best of 3, the Raptor lost because of a slow start and looked to be catching up. Let's be honest, the Raptor is the best truck of the group by a long shot. What's the price difference between the Tundra and Raptor?
Got a little sweaty for a moment anticipating all the Gaptor comments. The surprise was the Santa Cruz punching above its weight though...
It would be nice to see the tundra with the hybrid engine and the raptor on 35’s that’s probably the closest to even that we can get lol
The regular F150's are the quickest in the fleet, the Tremor would be a good match for the TRD, and I bet that'd be close though I'd expect the Tremor to edge out the win.
@@Steve-yr5vi Does the F-150 Tremor come in Four wheel drive? If it doesn’t, that would not be a good comparison in my opinion, the best comparison is the Ford Raptor on 35’s and the TRD pro Tundra with the hybrid motor, both are similar in power minus the tires, and they are both top of the line in the off road category.
@@jeffreycuellar241 Yeah tremor has 34s lift and 4wd. It still beats the tundra easily. Pretty sure the raptor with 37s and all the extra suspension weight is one of the slower f 150s.
Sad Roman makes me sad. Then, in my moment of despair, the Keeps ad comes on. Life is good.
I’d still take the Frontier over the Cruz I could careless about speed. Frontier would last longer In the long term plus a small lift and bigger tires looks awesome on these
I agree real truck vs a want to be a truck no comparison and sante Cruz is over 40000 lol
Took the words wright out of my mouth.
@TFL, Would love to see this Tundra race Andre’s F150. This is wicked fast. Any one else want to see that ?
yes with Roman or Andre in Andre's f-150
@@markwhitfield4581 100% yes.
I guess I’ll be that guy. But two of those trucks aren’t trucks. But it’s 2021 I suppose…cars can be trucks, men can be women and plants can be meat.
THIS.
We need Andrey and his F-150 hybrid vs the Tundra! And eventually hybrid Ford vs. hybrid Toyota...
I know this was tested in a different location than the test with the Maverick Hybrid, but I find it interesting that the AWD 2.0 turbo Maverick is only marginally faster to 60 than the hybrid. Seems like the Maverick hybrid did 0-60 in like 7.95 seconds vs like 7.75 in the turbo. Granted, the hybrid would probably get progressively slower if you kept in the throttle since the little battery would probably be fully discharged before the end of a 1/4 mile, but still interesting to see that the Maverick turbo was only marginally faster.
Also, I strongly dislike the pumped in/phony V8 noise in the Tundra (or fake noises in general). Car manufacturers should either embrace the noise that their engines naturally make or focus on making the interior noise quieter, not filling it with a fake sound.
Yea I didn't like the fake v8 sound from the tundra, the good news is it can be turn off with one of those expensive obd scan tools
Nathan holding the packagefor the hair product was rich .Couldn’t have picked a more convincing model. Laugh my ass off. This was just too damn funny. If your hair starts falling out that’s not a choice. Shaving your head is 💪
I wasn't expecting that. I thought you would need Tundra Hybrid to beat the Raptor. On another note with Toyota having turbo now can it be reliable as N/A? Can Toyota still keep the king of reliability tag?
Toyotas been making Turbo charged engines since the 80s. I think a couple of compressors won't ruin the reliability of the engines.
@@CACressida I hope they continue to keep quality and reliability as first priority. I think they try to build the fastest 0-60 or fast baja running truck what journalist wants vs what people wants. For example TRD exhaust. Journalist love it and I hate it. So annoying. When Toyota released the diesel engine video I really thought they will bring in 2.8 turbo diesel or 4.5 turbo diesel to USA. I "think" those are the things people want. (I could be wrong).
I’d buy the Frontier, it’s not turbo charged, I prefer that because it’s simpler and hopefully less expensive to work on long term.
Toyota won and it wasn't even the hybrid XD
Only on driver reaction time, not actual et !!
The Tundra wasn't having to move a 37" tire. That Raptor was making more power for sure. A normal F-150 with the 3.5L EB likely would have been faster than any of these trucks.
These videos just keep proving the new Tundra is an absolute embarrassment of a truck
@@xspower21Why do you say that?
@@xspower21dumb comment that makes absolutely no sense.
The Raptor did really well. Based on this Tundra's spec, it is about 5500#. The Raptor in this spec is about 5900#. The new Tundra TRD Pro is about 6000# so closer to the Raptor's weight. The Tundra TRD Pro comes with the higher rated hybrid powerplant that won't be available until next year.
The tire size on the Raptor kills the power. 37" vs 33" the 37's are super heavy not to mention much taller.
Agree.
Tundra had bitch tires
Looking forward to seeing how the Tundra performs.
Would love to see chevy 2500 diesel or gmc sierra 2500/ off road versions preferred maximum 5th wheel towing ike gauntlet. Keep up the great work 👍
The Hyundai did good, just not sure about the use of a dual clutch in that type of vehicle. A torque converter would seem more appropriate…. The difference at the finish line between the raptor and the tundra was just reaction time at the starting line. The raptor is quicker ….
I wanted to see the 2021 tundra drag racing. That v8 is a monster.
I noticed that the TRL rarely get the chance to test the vehicles from Rivian and Hummer. Is scheduling the real reason for declining, or is it something else
TRL made a video about this already. Rivian is only letting fanboys review their trucks, no unbiased reviews are allowed.
They're getting one from Rivian in January...they said that in a prior video
@@luchaDor After all the fanboys are finished giving them good press. And they cant hold out any longer.
@@luchaDor no way? That's awesome. Glad Rivian stepped up
Apparently those trucks are more built for appearance than durability. I wish those two carmakers would simply admit it
So with Andra and Nathan loaded in the Hybrid Mavrick it was actually quicker 0-60 than the Ecoboost Maverick at elevation
I'm a straight up Tundra owner
The Raptor is, was, the fastest.
COME-ON MAN!!!