As long as you can walk over to that wall of GUITARS behind you ....pick one up and strum some beautiful chords ....music is still ALIVE !!! As long as you can do that MUSIC will never die !!! Keep playing & never let it die.🎸
Many feel it was August 1st, 1981, the day MTV began insisting that musical artists be overwhelmingly photogenic, or no deal. Many stars of the 50’s, 60’s & 70’s would never have had a prayer.
OK, this should be a fitting video to let people know that I've been active as a singer-songwriter on UA-cam for more than ten years now, always eager to try styles I hadn't done before etc.. So, if anyone as fed up as me with the soulless standard pop of today is looking for something a little different...
@@comfortablynumb9342 Making money and being famous are two different things. Lots of unknown artists make lots of money, as well as known artists barely get by. Yes, one can get a huge exposure nowadays compared to the past, but people don't pay bills with exposure ;) Even here on YT or any other platform, the ratio between the numbers which really make you money and the sheer number of views and subs is ridiculous. It's as if, for example, in a bar only a couple of people paid their drinks a couple of times every 3 months but thousands of people visit that bar and order drinks every day. It makes ZERO business sense. The bar is famous though... very famous. Get real!
There is, and always has been, outrageously good musicians in basement and garage bands, and bedroom guitar players, who will never be heard. But music will never die.
It has never been easier to release music. The problem is getting people to hear it. Unfortunately finding new music is like trying to drink from a firehose. Methods of promotion and aggregation need to be improved. Pop was always homogenized. Most pop "artists" have songs written by teams of 50 year old men and played for an audience who doesn't care the live show is canned music and lip synced. The good sh*t requires starvation and suffering.
I'll argue that pop music became a fashion show long before the Spice Girls. When I was a kid parachute pants were super popular because Michael Jackson wore them.
I think music in the sense of FM radio may have died in 1996 due to landmark FCC legislation that allowed for conglomerates to control playlists. But Sirius XM has gone a long way to remedy the situation, especially with niche stations off the mainstream radar.
On the day when the 3 died, late Waylon Jennings rejected a ride on that airplane ✈. Thus, he continued on with his life. Years later, he was the baladeer in the TV 📺 adventure show The Dukes of Hazzard. Music did not die but changed. You are right ✅ about commercial music in Western nations. But in commercial music is different in Eastern nations. Example. OPM continues to rely on humans instead of AI. Same with music in other Eastern nations. Eastern nations.
Junk Food metaphor is fitting. You laid this out beautifully and the model fits very well. My primary interest is the message, lyrics, and creating experience in the listener. And, most interest in live music of smaller more intimate settings, 20-100 people, even living rooms with friends. Seeing ai replacing music creation has another potential impact of removing the lure of a guitar as pathway to stardom and riches.. Which raises the question of whether the number of guitar players will go down with less paying gigs? And will this create a glut of used guitars on the market making my collection worth less and less? Guessing yes. Good thing I enjoy playing them 😅 Thanks for another thought provoking video!
May be music dies on TV, in the Net, ... . But music in the streets, in the gardens, at the campfiere, ... never will die. Musican should stop beeing a star. They should start bringing people together, bring pleasure in their live. Yes, the fastfood and the trash will die. Music never will die.
I wonder if the giant record companies will prefer to sign human singers because of their debt model. Ultimately all of the costs they fronted will be paid back and they profited more from having a human starring in the song and video. 🤔
As grunge and indie pop was a reaction to the 80s hair metal bands and new wave, it's undoubtable that people will get tired of the machine generated formulas and latch on to something else until it all cycles again. But then again, the truth is that pop music has always been lowest common denominator garbage.
I learned, nowadays, it is not recommendable to make a living from music. Hard but true. Let's see why: - Online You can either market yourself or use platforms such as Spotify. Spotify will exploit you, and if you market yourself, piracy will spread your songs all over the internet. Furthermore, why would people buy an album with 15 songs or so, if they only like maybe 3 of your songs, and on top, you can listen music for free everywhere. - Offline If you are a DJ, clubbing is dead nowadays, and getting booked for house parties and get a nice payment is also rare in this day and age, unless people love the atmosphere of an oldschool house party with a DJ. The same applies if you are a guitarist, violinist, or an entire band.
good commentary, utkarsh. i think you are right. llms doing this is simply taking over from the algorithms that were developed to help determine which songs would become popular in the 90s. the calculations already existed and they're being used more heavily now. by the way, i am glad you switched from the t-shirt to a collared shirt with the sportcoat. you're looking sharp!
Don't buy the fairytale that it's easy to make millions of dollars in the music business,that want you to believe that so you'll work harder for a reward you'll never receive!
Great analysis. Enjoy everything tangible and real, folks, because in a short few years we will truly begin to lose our grasp on truth and what’s real…then it won’t matter anymore. And at that point - the page has turned to a new chapter of humanity. The pace of innovation is only increasing in this area, there’s no stopping it now.
I disagree Utkarsh, the worst thing that happened to music was the recording studios and even then we had plenty of genius, today with the proliferation of self published musicians and multi media productions we are seeing a wonderful growth as well as incredible genius in both musicians as well as writers. Bands like poliphia which are experimenting with sounds that are completely new and musicians that exceed every capability of past musicians abound. I actually think this is the prelude to a golden age that could only be stopped with the destruction of the internet, even AI isn’t going to be able to compete. The human mind, soul and spirit exceeds AI by orders of magnitude. Just an observation from one who lived through those awesome years of invention.
I have thought on this topic somewhat lengthily, and the conclusion I came to most recently is - it doesnt matter. We are talking about POP music, which is a paradigm long past the point where actual good music could GET popular, and well into the time when it is all made TO BE popular. AI doesnt change that, it just makes it easier. As much as the concept in general is disturbing, the likelyhood of it going anywhere past pop is pretty much a non-issue. AI isnt going to change what people like, so the majority who exist adjacent to pop will continue to exist adjacent to pop, and everyone else will continue to like and support actual music made by humans the same way they already do and have for 30+ years. I hope.
Terrible cookie cutter pop music has existed for a long time, even the 60s, the holy grail to music fans. A lot of it was utter rubbish music. The 50s too, even the 40s. The 1800s! People are not very creative, and the music scene is a result of that. If you ask me AI could be awesome for music, allowing people who are creative to access the tools of music that their lack of musicianship restricted them from. many musicians, very skilled ones, are terribly uncreative.
Popular music, especially top forty, may die as we know it. But there will always be a place for authentic, talented musicians. From going to live concerts and finding out about less prominent radio stations real music will never die. I have broken away from FM stations to Sirius XM and been rejuvenated by bluegrass music, contemporary jazz, and swing music, among other styles from various eras. I don't know about profitability in those fields but there is always a place for those who truly care about real music.
1959-02-03. The music died after that. In the 50's and 60's rock n roll was changing because of 2 of the guys that died that day. Once people stopped trying after their deaths everything was the same. You hear a song from the 60's and later you can tell what decade it came from because everything sounds the same. Chat just killed intelligence and common sense
Rather interesting just when you start describing what “popular music” will become the dog starts barking. That’s what it sounds like or is equivalent to, a little dog yapping in the background. One thing I see younger people and some comments here failing to realize is there was a period of time (relatively short) that “popular” music was also great music. Watch Rick Beato’s interview with Rick Wakeman. Lots of wisdom from Rick in that interview. As much as American Pie references the Deaths of Buddy Holly, Ritchie Valens and Big Bopper it was really about the death of the American dream and freedom. Disclaimer: This was not meant to be a criticism of dogs. I love dogs, cats and all animals.
You sound surprised . . . the music biz has been formulaic for decades, someone recognising something original that people respond to, jumping on the bandwagon and trying to ape it as cheaply as possible. Even as a kid I immediately recognised that the Monkees were a contrived American attempt to 'do a Beatles'. But your point here is obviously more about AI than the profit rationale of executives with little or no imagination of their own . . . 'huh, the kids like this stuff? So why aren't we doing it - get onto it now!' Whatever. As far as the technology is concerned I wouldn't worry too much about AI - it's in its' infancy now (a lot of atrocious shit out there) and it will become more sophisticated as the people inputting the parameters get better but ultimately you will end up with vacuous soundalikes and at a certain point the thrill of it all will be gone and it will seen for what it is . . . possibly interesting, clever and maybe even enjoyable but devoid of soul. At a certain point listeners eyes will glaze over as one AI program is tasked with coming up with something that's as good as something another AI program made. It's quite possible this stuff will gain a big market with the right adspend but the hollowness will eventuality be its' downfall. It's won't be dramatic - just another fad that fizzled out when something original and totally unexpected comes along but maybe elements of the tech endure because they are still useful. I remember the first Monophonic Synths when they started appearing - Moog, Korg etc. and then Polyphonic soon after - Prophet V, Oberheims, the Yamaha Dream Machine - we used them all. And drum machines - we had the 808, RX 15, the first Drumulator . . . sampled drums, I even bough the John Bonham chips to put in! The Emulator, Fairlight, Synclavier . . . fun stuff, used 'em all. And of course random arpeggiators and so on that could easily deliver an interesting loop you could maybe build a track on. And orchestral players and drummers and then backing vocalists all went ballistic but they survived and for sure guitarists and sax players weren't unduly threatened because those samples sounded like shit. We produced a Sample CD-ROM in Singapore, 'Heart of Asia' with Spectrasonics that got used everywhere -we spotted bits on Michael Jackson, Metheny tracks and lotsa movie soundtracks - it was fun, everyone got paid and so it goes on with ever better sample libraries being created by old friends of mine at ILIO & EAST/WEST. Fine - usable stuff when you can't afford real strings or maybe don't want an organic sounding track at all. More and more tools expanding the pallette available. These days you can buy ready made loops, chord sequences, you name it - Ikea style music assembly. AI is just another toy to play with. It doesn't come with an idea, a concept, an original lyric - it's a glorified search engine with certain skills at putting things together. It's what gets made in the end that matters and if the programmer inputting the 'brief' is smart a lot of the people my get fooled a lot of the time but I can assure you a lot of people will not - they'll see it for it is . . a falsity, a lie, a trick spewed out by a software programme to a brief from the programmer, that has no actual soul (I use that word in both senses of the word) and real, actual music written and performed by real people - hopefully with SOME actual talent - will become the oddity, the disruptor, the 'unexplainable' . . . the rule-breaker. There are glimpses of it everywhere if you know where to look (hint, Spotify is not where to look - it's on a race to the bottom). Everyone these days is saying 'we have to save the planet'. No we don't, we have to save ourselves and the various other species of flora and fauna we are helping to destroy. The planet will got on just fine without us - Earth is not dependent on human beings, it's the other way round. Similarly, Music will not die . . . it may suffer injury and contempt and be devalued and considered 'content' to fill a silent space but real Music will not Die - it will find it's way out thru people, maybe when least expected, in a place no-one could imagine . . . I'm not stopping, working on a record with a few old industry buddies - having fun, a coupla nice tracks down already, no AI involved at all - what are you doing about it?
Guitar and original music has become a hobby. Most people can't make a living at it. It's all becoming wallpaper , not a big part of life like it Was. No respect for music and now it can all be automated.
The decade when music on Electric guitar realy started for me and my family! After the sixties music changed in a hugh way. I still listen to the music from that times with joy in my heart.
Music has evolved and will continue to do so. Is it dead? Absolutely not! Throughout history, innovations have reshaped how we create, share, and experience music-from radio and jukeboxes to cassettes, downloading, and streaming. Claims that "music is dead" simply don’t align with reality. Today, more music is being released than ever before, with unprecedented ease of reaching a global audience. Production costs have plummeted, enabling artists to create and distribute music independently. The music industry is thriving, generating $26.8 billion in revenue, a historic high. Moreover, the rise of billionaire artists like Jay-Z, Rihanna, and Bruce Springsteen showcases how lucrative the industry remains. Music’s adaptability ensures its vitality, fueled by creativity and innovation at every turn.
I agree that music will live on and never die. But what you said about the music industry being lucrative is just not true. Infact what the music industry is today is just a shell of its former self. The top few billionaire artists like the Taylor Swifts and Kanyes exist but that doesn't reflect how the average artist is doing. The industry as a whole isn't thriving anymore, instead it's trying to scrape every penny that's left by trying to manufacture cookie cutter hit songs. If the music industry was in a healthy state of being, you would have a much more diverse top 10 and the average artist would still be able to make a living doing music, which is sadly not the case anymore. All the big names you hear about started out in the 90s or early 00s Taylor Swift, kanye, Eminem, Coldplay, you name it. Ask yourself this - how many big artists can you name that came up in the last 10 years? Maybe you'll be able to find one or two, but that's about it. Also the volume of music being released has nothing to do with how healthy the music industry is. It's just that nowadays anyone with a laptop and garageband can release music. If you have to determine the state of the music industry look at the top 10 songs, are they really diverse and creatively written? Or is it formulaic and cookie cutter? Also is the average musician able to make a living creating music? The answer to both of these questions is sadly a 'No'. A lot of popular artists have been asked the question of what they would have done if they started out now and not back in the old days, and a vast majority of them said the same thing - we really don't know.
@@SubhadeepDas The music industry as a whole is thriving more than ever, and the numbers back this up. In the early 2000s, the industry generated $13.3 billion, which rose to $20.2 billion in the 2010s, and now stands at an impressive $28.6 billion USD. While it's true the system has its flaws-streaming services are now under scrutiny for unfair practices-this isn't new. In the past, record labels, agents, or management often took advantage of artists. Regarding creativity, we often romanticize the past, forgetting that every decade produced its share of mediocre music alongside the greats. The top 10 charts, often used to assess the industry's state, are not representative of its diversity-they're merely a snapshot of popularity. Meanwhile, big names like Bad Bunny, The Weeknd, and BTS exemplify the global reach and impact of today's artists, showcasing the industry's vibrancy and variety.
@@arjanhurkmans9190 you're missing the point. A country's GDP or number of billionaires does not reflect the quality of that country. What you have to look at is Per Capita Income. Use this and apply it to the music industry. By no chance will it seems like a lucrative business. And when it comes to creativity in the current day, yes it exists but the question is how many of those creative artists do you see making it mainstream these days? Can you name a modern day Radiohead? No because such artists will never get to see the light of day these days.
@@SubhadeepDas True, but many musicians didn’t make much money decades ago either-there are plenty of stories to back that up. And quality is subjective; I could point to both brilliant and mediocre music from any decade. Also, Radiohead isn’t the benchmark for me. I enjoy The Bends, but most of their other music doesn’t do much for me. Plus, I wouldn’t consider Radiohead mainstream-no chart singles in the last 8 years. That said, I can name some interesting 'new' artists like Glass Beams, Khruangbin, and Tame Impala.
Feedback and 2:05 I was getting annoyed you hadn’t got to the point yet and then you say you’re going to keep stringing it on.. that’s going to hurt your retention because I don’t care anymore about November 30, 2022.
The death certificate for me was when grunge appeared. Early 90's. I liked some of it but it's as if music I grew up with was never coming back. It's never recovered if you ask me.
"Formula rock" has been around for a long time. I don't believe ChatGPT killed music. Lots of artists are still making real music and performing live. You may be right about the future of dance music and certain genres. And maybe some people will want AI produced music but I don't.
Music styles are supposed to die. We dont sing Pirate Shanty's anymore and we rarely if ever sing Philip Souza. Rock/Pop music in particular was written for specific artists to perform not musicians to perform ala Bach. You are way off the mark on this one.
Excuse me but your point is very stupid. I play music myself, and listen to artists play it. No ai is involved. Did photography die with invention on cell phone cameras or midjourney? Suuuuure did based on your logic.
AI Music doesn't have to be as good as music made by humans. It just has to be good enough to pass and be consumed. As a working musician most of my life, I can say that it was never easy to earn a living by doing what you love, but thanks to things like streaming, venues closing down, and a billion songs being released each day for free, it is painfully hard. And AI is going to make it worse, I assure you.
everything evolves and changes and, there are always trade offs good and bad. I no longer see it as better or worse, just different...and it's always about the money
For the love of everything holy, get to the bloody point. Good grief, man, just make your thesis statement right up front, then go back and explain yourself. Don't bury the lead halfway into the video. Who has the patience for that?
As an American who lived through the 1980s, that was the decade that saw a huge, wholesale increase in offshoring work, and even entire industries to China, India, and elsewhere. The US economy has never recovered. If it wasn't for the petrodollar, military-industrial complex, and the ever present threat of economic and military actions by the US hegemony, the US would be a third-world country today, or closer to it. If you've been to any of our blue, demoncrat, totalitarian, zombie dystopian cities in the last few years, you'd see it first hand.
Seriously: Here on my YT are HUNDREDS of AI songs. NOT STERILE. I play 12 musical instruments. I have recorded in pro studios. I have played hundreds of live gigs. Nothing I have EVER done with music has been so fast and easy. I upload FIVE new (decent) songs per week. Funny songs. I make them sitting in my chair in 4-5 hrs each. Songs used to take ALL YEAR TO MAKE! And due to the need to work with other humans those studio songs were below par. You can't tell my songs are AI. I make it sound like real people playing real music. Nobody else is doing this! I make the best AI/Hybrid songs on EARTH now thst I don't rely on other humans. The other people always held me back. Right now it's mostly other musicians who are subscribed to my YT. Because the songs are to good. Way to funny for regular Sheeple spotify idiot listeners.
Totally agree. Problem with music is lacked creativity. AI could allow creative people into making music, whereas before they were locked out for lack of instrument proficiency. I say embrace it, not this “it’s all over” crying that everyone does. What AI programs are you using, know little about it?
@Bluepilled-c5t I figured out quick the AI can be a vehicle for my "opinions". It may be A I, but it's me that tells the story and decides what's crap and whats "good enough". Machine/Life Hybrid.
Music is More alive than ever it was never been easier To realease making music Ai will prove it Even further the only Things changinng that you have To do many Jobs at once teaching/Gig/producing and live a humble live with ups and downs not much luxery at times no Gigs do more teaching ..etc Playing in 3 or 4 Projekts/Bands only paid Gigs and staying Single helps Friends of mine some of them Even Play or have played with some big Names have To sell Instruments beside teaching After Tour To make a living and but those are sacrifices you are Willing To make if this means something to you Less 1% of worldrockspopstars That you are exposed are now usually richkids and influencers/contentcreator And or have Parents in Film/Musicindustry its really small fraction most musician That actually make the industrie you Never heard of and probably Never will Hilarious That a grown man with That Many Guitars behind his ass is wining about death of music Do yourself a favour play those Instruments instead and get your Ass down To a local Jam Session or Spend some Money To see localbands/Artists that would actually help much more
At this point, I'm all for the music dying. And the movies, too. Why? Because the political power of famous people is too dangerous. I don't like the idea of some airhead singer with a nice ass being potentially able to sway an American Presidential election. It's terrifying, and the sooner these idiots lose all relevance, the happier I'll be. I've got enough music from the last 500 years to listen to; I don't NEED these 'artists.' That's just my two cents.
So let me gets this straight... this is about AI again right? And that's just one breakthrough, all AI programs are using the same technology... known as Deep learning so your obviously talking about the same technology that gives you chatGPT, Sora, various AI image generators... this is all Deep Learning.
7:52 Is where the point of this video finally starts.
Thanks for this. Nobody needs to spend 16 minutes listening to this.
Thanks
As long as you can walk over to that wall of GUITARS behind you ....pick one up and strum some beautiful chords ....music is still ALIVE !!! As long as you can do that MUSIC will never die !!! Keep playing & never let it die.🎸
Many feel it was August 1st, 1981, the day MTV began insisting that musical artists be overwhelmingly photogenic, or no deal. Many stars of the 50’s, 60’s & 70’s would never have had a prayer.
How do you explain Ed Sheeran?
"Video Killed The Radio Star" was a prophetic first video for MTV to show.
OK, this should be a fitting video to let people know that I've been active as a singer-songwriter on UA-cam for more than ten years now, always eager to try styles I hadn't done before etc.. So, if anyone as fed up as me with the soulless standard pop of today is looking for something a little different...
Music hasn't died. The possibility for the little guy to make money in the music business has died. It's time to return to real homegrown folk music.
Are you serious?
Nah, the little artists have it easier now. UA-cam is enough to get famous.
@@comfortablynumb9342 Making money and being famous are two different things. Lots of unknown artists make lots of money, as well as known artists barely get by. Yes, one can get a huge exposure nowadays compared to the past, but people don't pay bills with exposure ;) Even here on YT or any other platform, the ratio between the numbers which really make you money and the sheer number of views and subs is ridiculous. It's as if, for example, in a bar only a couple of people paid their drinks a couple of times every 3 months but thousands of people visit that bar and order drinks every day. It makes ZERO business sense. The bar is famous though... very famous. Get real!
There is, and always has been, outrageously good musicians in basement and garage bands, and bedroom guitar players, who will never be heard. But music will never die.
"Shut up & play your guitar!" - Frank Zappa
Haha
It has never been easier to release music. The problem is getting people to hear it. Unfortunately finding new music is like trying to drink from a firehose. Methods of promotion and aggregation need to be improved. Pop was always homogenized. Most pop "artists" have songs written by teams of 50 year old men and played for an audience who doesn't care the live show is canned music and lip synced. The good sh*t requires starvation and suffering.
Agree. But I also find algorithms of Spotify et al an excellent tool for finding music. Finding music in the good old days was genuinely hard.
I kind of agree, to me it died in 96, with the spice girls, when music turned into fashion and listening to the radio became a chore to me
Agreed
Spice girl style existed way before that. Pop music has long been trash.
I'll argue that pop music became a fashion show long before the Spice Girls. When I was a kid parachute pants were super popular because Michael Jackson wore them.
I think music in the sense of FM radio may have died in 1996 due to landmark FCC legislation that allowed for conglomerates to control playlists. But Sirius XM has gone a long way to remedy the situation, especially with niche stations off the mainstream radar.
On the day when the 3 died, late Waylon Jennings rejected a ride on that airplane ✈. Thus, he continued on with his life. Years later, he was the baladeer in the TV 📺 adventure show The Dukes of Hazzard.
Music did not die but changed.
You are right ✅ about commercial music in Western nations.
But in commercial music is different in Eastern nations. Example. OPM continues to rely on humans instead of AI. Same with music in other Eastern nations.
Eastern nations.
Junk Food metaphor is fitting. You laid this out beautifully and the model fits very well.
My primary interest is the message, lyrics, and creating experience in the listener. And, most interest in live music of smaller more intimate settings, 20-100 people, even living rooms with friends.
Seeing ai replacing music creation has another potential impact of removing the lure of a guitar as pathway to stardom and riches..
Which raises the question of whether the number of guitar players will go down with less paying gigs? And will this create a glut of used guitars on the market making my collection worth less and less? Guessing yes. Good thing I enjoy playing them 😅
Thanks for another thought provoking video!
May be music dies on TV, in the Net, ... . But music in the streets, in the gardens, at the campfiere, ... never will die. Musican should stop beeing a star. They should start bringing people together, bring pleasure in their live. Yes, the fastfood and the trash will die. Music never will die.
A guitar on the beach by the bonfire isn't going to be replaced by a computer.
I wonder if the giant record companies will prefer to sign human singers because of their debt model. Ultimately all of the costs they fronted will be paid back and they profited more from having a human starring in the song and video. 🤔
As grunge and indie pop was a reaction to the 80s hair metal bands and new wave, it's undoubtable that people will get tired of the machine generated formulas and latch on to something else until it all cycles again.
But then again, the truth is that pop music has always been lowest common denominator garbage.
I learned, nowadays, it is not recommendable to make a living from music. Hard but true. Let's see why:
- Online
You can either market yourself or use platforms such as Spotify. Spotify will exploit you, and if you market yourself, piracy will spread your songs all over the internet. Furthermore, why would people buy an album with 15 songs or so, if they only like maybe 3 of your songs, and on top, you can listen music for free everywhere.
- Offline
If you are a DJ, clubbing is dead nowadays, and getting booked for house parties and get a nice payment is also rare in this day and age, unless people love the atmosphere of an oldschool house party with a DJ. The same applies if you are a guitarist, violinist, or an entire band.
good commentary, utkarsh. i think you are right. llms doing this is simply taking over from the algorithms that were developed to help determine which songs would become popular in the 90s. the calculations already existed and they're being used more heavily now.
by the way, i am glad you switched from the t-shirt to a collared shirt with the sportcoat. you're looking sharp!
Don't buy the fairytale that it's easy to make millions of dollars in the music business,that want you to believe that so you'll work harder for a reward you'll never receive!
Great analysis. Enjoy everything tangible and real, folks, because in a short few years we will truly begin to lose our grasp on truth and what’s real…then it won’t matter anymore. And at that point - the page has turned to a new chapter of humanity. The pace of innovation is only increasing in this area, there’s no stopping it now.
Yes I fear synthetic will become the new normal, and organic (ie human) the rarity
I disagree Utkarsh, the worst thing that happened to music was the recording studios and even then we had plenty of genius, today with the proliferation of self published musicians and multi media productions we are seeing a wonderful growth as well as incredible genius in both musicians as well as writers. Bands like poliphia which are experimenting with sounds that are completely new and musicians that exceed every capability of past musicians abound. I actually think this is the prelude to a golden age that could only be stopped with the destruction of the internet, even AI isn’t going to be able to compete. The human mind, soul and spirit exceeds AI by orders of magnitude. Just an observation from one who lived through those awesome years of invention.
I have thought on this topic somewhat lengthily, and the conclusion I came to most recently is - it doesnt matter. We are talking about POP music, which is a paradigm long past the point where actual good music could GET popular, and well into the time when it is all made TO BE popular. AI doesnt change that, it just makes it easier.
As much as the concept in general is disturbing, the likelyhood of it going anywhere past pop is pretty much a non-issue. AI isnt going to change what people like, so the majority who exist adjacent to pop will continue to exist adjacent to pop, and everyone else will continue to like and support actual music made by humans the same way they already do and have for 30+ years.
I hope.
Terrible cookie cutter pop music has existed for a long time, even the 60s, the holy grail to music fans. A lot of it was utter rubbish music. The 50s too, even the 40s. The 1800s! People are not very creative, and the music scene is a result of that. If you ask me AI could be awesome for music, allowing people who are creative to access the tools of music that their lack of musicianship restricted them from. many musicians, very skilled ones, are terribly uncreative.
Popular music, especially top forty, may die as we know it. But there will always be a place for authentic, talented musicians. From going to live concerts and finding out about less prominent radio stations real music will never die. I have broken away from FM stations to Sirius XM and been rejuvenated by bluegrass music, contemporary jazz, and swing music, among other styles from various eras. I don't know about profitability in those fields but there is always a place for those who truly care about real music.
Anyone can write lyrics now with chat GPT. You simply tell it to write a song using the key words you want to key on. Same with poetry.
1959-02-03. The music died after that. In the 50's and 60's rock n roll was changing because of 2 of the guys that died that day. Once people stopped trying after their deaths everything was the same. You hear a song from the 60's and later you can tell what decade it came from because everything sounds the same. Chat just killed intelligence and common sense
Rather interesting just when you start describing what “popular music” will become the dog starts barking. That’s what it sounds like or is equivalent to, a little dog yapping in the background.
One thing I see younger people and some comments here failing to realize is there was a period of time (relatively short) that “popular” music was also great music. Watch Rick Beato’s interview with Rick Wakeman. Lots of wisdom from Rick in that interview.
As much as American Pie references the Deaths of Buddy Holly, Ritchie Valens and Big Bopper it was really about the death of the American dream and freedom.
Disclaimer:
This was not meant to be a criticism of dogs. I love dogs, cats and all animals.
Haha it was ironic. Guess my puppy doesn’t like Pop music either. I get the point on the American dream
You sound surprised . . . the music biz has been formulaic for decades, someone recognising something original that people respond to, jumping on the bandwagon and trying to ape it as cheaply as possible. Even as a kid I immediately recognised that the Monkees were a contrived American attempt to 'do a Beatles'. But your point here is obviously more about AI than the profit rationale of executives with little or no imagination of their own . . . 'huh, the kids like this stuff? So why aren't we doing it - get onto it now!' Whatever.
As far as the technology is concerned I wouldn't worry too much about AI - it's in its' infancy now (a lot of atrocious shit out there) and it will become more sophisticated as the people inputting the parameters get better but ultimately you will end up with vacuous soundalikes and at a certain point the thrill of it all will be gone and it will seen for what it is . . . possibly interesting, clever and maybe even enjoyable but devoid of soul. At a certain point listeners eyes will glaze over as one AI program is tasked with coming up with something that's as good as something another AI program made. It's quite possible this stuff will gain a big market with the right adspend but the hollowness will eventuality be its' downfall. It's won't be dramatic - just another fad that fizzled out when something original and totally unexpected comes along but maybe elements of the tech endure because they are still useful.
I remember the first Monophonic Synths when they started appearing - Moog, Korg etc. and then Polyphonic soon after - Prophet V, Oberheims, the Yamaha Dream Machine - we used them all. And drum machines - we had the 808, RX 15, the first Drumulator . . . sampled drums, I even bough the John Bonham chips to put in! The Emulator, Fairlight, Synclavier . . . fun stuff, used 'em all. And of course random arpeggiators and so on that could easily deliver an interesting loop you could maybe build a track on. And orchestral players and drummers and then backing vocalists all went ballistic but they survived and for sure guitarists and sax players weren't unduly threatened because those samples sounded like shit.
We produced a Sample CD-ROM in Singapore, 'Heart of Asia' with Spectrasonics that got used everywhere -we spotted bits on Michael Jackson, Metheny tracks and lotsa movie soundtracks - it was fun, everyone got paid and so it goes on with ever better sample libraries being created by old friends of mine at ILIO & EAST/WEST. Fine - usable stuff when you can't afford real strings or maybe don't want an organic sounding track at all. More and more tools expanding the pallette available. These days you can buy ready made loops, chord sequences, you name it - Ikea style music assembly.
AI is just another toy to play with. It doesn't come with an idea, a concept, an original lyric - it's a glorified search engine with certain skills at putting things together. It's what gets made in the end that matters and if the programmer inputting the 'brief' is smart a lot of the people my get fooled a lot of the time but I can assure you a lot of people will not - they'll see it for it is . . a falsity, a lie, a trick spewed out by a software programme to a brief from the programmer, that has no actual soul (I use that word in both senses of the word) and real, actual music written and performed by real people - hopefully with SOME actual talent - will become the oddity, the disruptor, the 'unexplainable' . . . the rule-breaker. There are glimpses of it everywhere if you know where to look (hint, Spotify is not where to look - it's on a race to the bottom).
Everyone these days is saying 'we have to save the planet'. No we don't, we have to save ourselves and the various other species of flora and fauna we are helping to destroy. The planet will got on just fine without us - Earth is not dependent on human beings, it's the other way round. Similarly, Music will not die . . . it may suffer injury and contempt and be devalued and considered 'content' to fill a silent space but real Music will not Die - it will find it's way out thru people, maybe when least expected, in a place no-one could imagine . . .
I'm not stopping, working on a record with a few old industry buddies - having fun, a coupla nice tracks down already, no AI involved at all - what are you doing about it?
It died out in the 90's. Go back and take a deep dive into the 1960s, and early 1970s, and stay in that bubble when music was at its very best!!!
Guitar and original music has become a hobby. Most people can't make a living at it. It's all becoming wallpaper , not a big part of life like it Was. No respect for music and now it can all be automated.
The decade when music on Electric guitar realy started for me and my family! After the sixties music changed in a hugh way. I still listen to the music from that times with joy in my heart.
It was a great decade. Sometimes I wish I lived in that time
That why I listen to independent artist 💪😎🎸
"Pay to play" killed music.
Music has evolved and will continue to do so. Is it dead? Absolutely not! Throughout history, innovations have reshaped how we create, share, and experience music-from radio and jukeboxes to cassettes, downloading, and streaming. Claims that "music is dead" simply don’t align with reality.
Today, more music is being released than ever before, with unprecedented ease of reaching a global audience. Production costs have plummeted, enabling artists to create and distribute music independently. The music industry is thriving, generating $26.8 billion in revenue, a historic high. Moreover, the rise of billionaire artists like Jay-Z, Rihanna, and Bruce Springsteen showcases how lucrative the industry remains. Music’s adaptability ensures its vitality, fueled by creativity and innovation at every turn.
I agree that music will live on and never die. But what you said about the music industry being lucrative is just not true. Infact what the music industry is today is just a shell of its former self. The top few billionaire artists like the Taylor Swifts and Kanyes exist but that doesn't reflect how the average artist is doing. The industry as a whole isn't thriving anymore, instead it's trying to scrape every penny that's left by trying to manufacture cookie cutter hit songs.
If the music industry was in a healthy state of being, you would have a much more diverse top 10 and the average artist would still be able to make a living doing music, which is sadly not the case anymore.
All the big names you hear about started out in the 90s or early 00s Taylor Swift, kanye, Eminem, Coldplay, you name it. Ask yourself this - how many big artists can you name that came up in the last 10 years? Maybe you'll be able to find one or two, but that's about it.
Also the volume of music being released has nothing to do with how healthy the music industry is. It's just that nowadays anyone with a laptop and garageband can release music.
If you have to determine the state of the music industry look at the top 10 songs, are they really diverse and creatively written? Or is it formulaic and cookie cutter? Also is the average musician able to make a living creating music? The answer to both of these questions is sadly a 'No'.
A lot of popular artists have been asked the question of what they would have done if they started out now and not back in the old days, and a vast majority of them said the same thing - we really don't know.
@@SubhadeepDas The music industry as a whole is thriving more than ever, and the numbers back this up. In the early 2000s, the industry generated $13.3 billion, which rose to $20.2 billion in the 2010s, and now stands at an impressive $28.6 billion USD. While it's true the system has its flaws-streaming services are now under scrutiny for unfair practices-this isn't new. In the past, record labels, agents, or management often took advantage of artists.
Regarding creativity, we often romanticize the past, forgetting that every decade produced its share of mediocre music alongside the greats. The top 10 charts, often used to assess the industry's state, are not representative of its diversity-they're merely a snapshot of popularity. Meanwhile, big names like Bad Bunny, The Weeknd, and BTS exemplify the global reach and impact of today's artists, showcasing the industry's vibrancy and variety.
@@arjanhurkmans9190 you're missing the point. A country's GDP or number of billionaires does not reflect the quality of that country. What you have to look at is Per Capita Income.
Use this and apply it to the music industry. By no chance will it seems like a lucrative business.
And when it comes to creativity in the current day, yes it exists but the question is how many of those creative artists do you see making it mainstream these days? Can you name a modern day Radiohead? No because such artists will never get to see the light of day these days.
@@SubhadeepDas True, but many musicians didn’t make much money decades ago either-there are plenty of stories to back that up. And quality is subjective; I could point to both brilliant and mediocre music from any decade. Also, Radiohead isn’t the benchmark for me. I enjoy The Bends, but most of their other music doesn’t do much for me. Plus, I wouldn’t consider Radiohead mainstream-no chart singles in the last 8 years. That said, I can name some interesting 'new' artists like Glass Beams, Khruangbin, and Tame Impala.
Music isn't dead, but it is starting to smell a little funny.
I hope you can see things in a better light because this is really sad to witness.
I love lofi/ambient music. It’s all I listen to all day while I work. Stuff with vocals, complicated playing is too distracting.
Actually I love lo fi for background also
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I can't listen to that stuff, , , it's too uneventful for me. To each their own tho
The Warning. Alien Weaponry. Bloodywood. Music didn't die, it moved overseas!;)
You have been warned
Feedback and 2:05 I was getting annoyed you hadn’t got to the point yet and then you say you’re going to keep stringing it on.. that’s going to hurt your retention because I don’t care anymore about November 30, 2022.
The death of music began when Rap was invented.
You are 100% correct. Music is dead man walking for artists.
The death certificate for me was when grunge appeared. Early 90's. I liked some of it but it's as if music I grew up with was never coming back. It's never recovered if you ask me.
"Formula rock" has been around for a long time.
I don't believe ChatGPT killed music. Lots of artists are still making real music and performing live. You may be right about the future of dance music and certain genres. And maybe some people will want AI produced music but I don't.
Music styles are supposed to die. We dont sing Pirate Shanty's anymore and we rarely if ever sing Philip Souza. Rock/Pop music in particular was written for specific artists to perform not musicians to perform ala Bach. You are way off the mark on this one.
Jazz is not dead it just smells really bad.
Excuse me but your point is very stupid. I play music myself, and listen to artists play it. No ai is involved. Did photography die with invention on cell phone cameras or midjourney? Suuuuure did based on your logic.
AI Music doesn't have to be as good as music made by humans. It just has to be good enough to pass and be consumed. As a working musician most of my life, I can say that it was never easy to earn a living by doing what you love, but thanks to things like streaming, venues closing down, and a billion songs being released each day for free, it is painfully hard. And AI is going to make it worse, I assure you.
everything evolves and changes and, there are always trade offs good and bad. I no longer see it as better or worse, just different...and it's always about the money
For the love of everything holy, get to the bloody point. Good grief, man, just make your thesis statement right up front, then go back and explain yourself. Don't bury the lead halfway into the video. Who has the patience for that?
As an American who lived through the 1980s, that was the decade that saw a huge, wholesale increase in offshoring work, and even entire industries to China, India, and elsewhere. The US economy has never recovered. If it wasn't for the petrodollar, military-industrial complex, and the ever present threat of economic and military actions by the US hegemony, the US would be a third-world country today, or closer to it.
If you've been to any of our blue, demoncrat, totalitarian, zombie dystopian cities in the last few years, you'd see it first hand.
Sad.
Seriously: Here on my YT are HUNDREDS of AI songs. NOT STERILE. I play 12 musical instruments. I have recorded in pro studios. I have played hundreds of live gigs. Nothing I have EVER done with music has been so fast and easy.
I upload FIVE new (decent) songs per week.
Funny songs. I make them sitting in my chair in 4-5 hrs each. Songs used to take ALL YEAR TO MAKE!
And due to the need to work with other humans those studio songs were below par.
You can't tell my songs are AI.
I make it sound like real people playing real music.
Nobody else is doing this!
I make the best AI/Hybrid songs on EARTH now thst I don't rely on other humans. The other people always held me back.
Right now it's mostly other musicians who are subscribed to my YT.
Because the songs are to good. Way to funny for regular Sheeple spotify idiot listeners.
Totally agree. Problem with music is lacked creativity. AI could allow creative people into making music, whereas before they were locked out for lack of instrument proficiency. I say embrace it, not this “it’s all over” crying that everyone does. What AI programs are you using, know little about it?
@Bluepilled-c5t I figured out quick the AI can be a vehicle for my "opinions".
It may be A I, but it's me that tells the story and decides what's crap and whats "good enough".
Machine/Life Hybrid.
Music is More alive than ever it was never been easier To realease making music Ai will prove it Even further the only Things changinng that you have To do many Jobs at once teaching/Gig/producing and live a humble live with ups and downs not much luxery at times
no Gigs do more teaching ..etc
Playing in 3 or 4 Projekts/Bands only paid Gigs and staying Single helps
Friends of mine some of them Even Play or have played with some big Names have To sell Instruments beside teaching After Tour To make a living and
but those are sacrifices you are Willing To make if this means something to you
Less 1% of worldrockspopstars That you are exposed are now usually richkids and influencers/contentcreator
And or have Parents in Film/Musicindustry its really small fraction most musician That actually make the industrie you Never heard of and probably Never will
Hilarious That a grown man with That Many Guitars behind his ass is wining about death of music Do yourself a favour play those Instruments instead and get your Ass down To a local Jam Session or Spend some Money To see localbands/Artists that would actually help much more
Valenzuela
Yes as I learnt in the movie
At this point, I'm all for the music dying. And the movies, too. Why? Because the political power of famous people is too dangerous. I don't like the idea of some airhead singer with a nice ass being potentially able to sway an American Presidential election. It's terrifying, and the sooner these idiots lose all relevance, the happier I'll be. I've got enough music from the last 500 years to listen to; I don't NEED these 'artists.' That's just my two cents.
and that goes for movies too…in my opinion more so….
So let me gets this straight... this is about AI again right?
And that's just one breakthrough, all AI programs are using the same technology... known as Deep learning so your obviously talking about the same technology that gives you chatGPT, Sora, various AI image generators... this is all Deep Learning.
What's your point? We all know this. All you did was give AI a different label.
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Everything died in 1991
It did not. What died was the music you feel attached to. I’d say west coast hair metal given your choice of year?
@Bluepilled-c5t when was the bigyshirt in music...1991, did I state what I listened to ..are you in some alt universe
@Bluepilled-c5t wow got under your skin quick, listen
@@s.porter8646 chill bro. All good. Taking it a bit personally there.