The Sorrows of Young Werther: Pop Uber Alles [BestBooksEver#5]
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- Опубліковано 22 лип 2024
- As my lawyer always says, YA literature is a thriving and relevant narrative form.
What do you think of Werther, that knobber? Did you like him (and the book in general?)? Did you hate him? Let me know in the comments!
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Hands down, yours is the best Book related channel on UA-cam.
Love your general opinions about what a book stands for rather than the mere plot and story.
+boyturned2man Thanks man!
Is Mein Kampf YA?
Such a great book, I'm glad you added this one to your list of Best Books. Would love to hear you go more in-depth about it sometime.
+Knowledge Lost I'll consider doing so, thanks for the feedback :)!
I've read it last month and it made me reflect on the condition of absence, dissatisfaction, sadness, misunderstanding, loneliness with a cathartic function. I think this book as the one that all teens have to read during their adolescence, even more than Holden
I havent read The Sorrows of Young Werther yet, but I definitely will! :) Anyway, this was a great video - I agree with you on YA, not my favorite genre either at all.. it just doesnt seem to have enough depth to it - or at least not how I like it in novels :)
Some german books and authors that I love most and that you could check out:
Thomas Mann (Magic Mountain, Buddenbrooks), Hermann Hesse (Steppenwolf, Demian, Glass Bead Game),Arthur Schnitzler (Dream Novella, plays) Brecht (Life of Galilei, Mother Courage, Saint Joan), the poetry of Heine and Eichendorff, Kafka (Trial, Castle, short stories), Schiller, Stefan Zweig (stories), Max Frisch (Stiller, plays) Friedrich Dürrenmatt (The Physicians, The Visit), Patrick Süskind (The Perfume), Heinrich Kleist (Michael Kohlhaas), Heinrich Böll (stories), E.T.A. Hoffmann (stories).
Please let me know if you have already read any of them and if so, what your thougths on them are.
Best wishes!
+sers saas I have read some of these in my years as a German Lit student, namely Mann, Brecht, Schnitzler, Heine, Kafka, Schiller, Zweig, Kleist, Boll and Hoffmann, though in general only one or two works for each, but among these those who have stayed with me the most are Kafka and Hoffmann. Among Mann's books I have only read Doktor Fausttus and the Death in Venice, and I would one day like to read Buddenbrooks as I usually like nineteenth-century(-or-so) family sagas.
Will forever be waiting for the continuation of this great series of videos, BestBooksEver!!! Always wondering what books wou would/will present when you "move to England for quite a few episodes", after of course Middlemarch and Northanger Abbey.
I would guess Sterne's "Tristam Shandy" (I'm reading it now and I understand nothing!...) Shelley's "Frankenstein"? Some Oscar Wilde or E.M. Forster? Graham Swift and Graham Greene? John Fowles? :)))
Eheh - glad you appreciate it man ^^! Unfortunately I don't have that much time to read classics of recent, but I'll continue the series some day :). As per your question: not Tristram Shandy! I still have to read that one, though it sounds like the kind of book I'd love!
Thank you for replying in these older videos!!!
You'd love it for sure! It's pure modernism, if I didn't know - and if the characters weren't all very religious - I'd bet money it was written in the 1960s.
I'll be waiting for more videos in this Series! :)
I really love that sweater
Not usually a SuperDry man, but this one's great
I'm not german, but the Nibelungenlied, man! I'm surprised you didn't mention it. It is a very old and very important epic poem in Middle German that I think can be compared to the Cantar de Mío Cid or works like that in terms of importance. I didn't really like Werther when I read it, but I've always wondered if it was because I was too young to appreciate it or just had the bad luck of getting a bad translation. Anyways, I'll probably reread it soon to see if I like it more now.
I'm not German, but I have few recommendation for Lithuanian books, if you will have any chans to buy or ran in to these books. So it's my two favorite ones: Forest of the Gods by Balys Sruoga (written in 1946, published in 1957); Vilnius Poker by Ričardas Gavelis (published in 1989).
+Mr. Putler Gollum Thanks for the reccommendations, I'll keep them in mind :)! I'd love to get the chance to explore European literature outside the few "big" countries!
I am a bit late but when it comes to German literature you need to check out Robert Walser. Kafka was a big fan of him and he writes in a way that is unlike anything you will ever read. Another one would be Georg Büchner who wrote mostly plays but also one novel called "Lenz" about a now forgotten writer from Goethes time who went insane as he wondered through the woods of Germany. Büchers plays are also phenomenal, especially Woyzcek.
There are also plenty modern German authors worth reading: Günter Grass for example or Christa wolf a writer from the former GDR.
I have the same opinion on YA literature. Goethe is amazing and brilliant but I haven't got to fully indulge myself into his work as deep as I'd like yet. I was wondering if you've read Rainer Maria Rilke's Duino Elegies or Sonnets to Orpheus or if you've read Ezra Pound's Cantos? I've been getting into both Rilke and Pound more heavily as of late- but if you haven't read them, who are some of your favorite poets? A few more I would include in my favorites list would be Arthur Rimbaud, Percy Shelley, Lord Byron, John Keats, Walt Whitman, W.B. Yeats, and William Blake. They're definitely heavy hitters in the poetry universe but they're so profound and beautiful it's almost hard not to love them.
+BOHEMIA I guess my favorite poet is WB Yeats. I have studied him extensively throughout my university career and I've written a couple of papers on his works too. I also have a huge passion for Robert Frost and a great fascination with Wallace Stevens, though I have only discovered both very recently. Browning is another favorite of mine, and Tennyson to a lesser extent. And Gerard Manley Hopkins, though he's a taxing one. And one or two Italians, especially Montale. And of course all the great Romantics etc, but yeah I wouldn't put them among my very favorites. I don't know Rilke nor Pound though!
have you read Wittgenstein's mistress yet?
+Malibu Thompson I'll be honest - no, and I probably won't have time to read it in the next few years. It falls outside the area of inquiry of my research and it doesn't exactly feel like the kind of book I'd pick up if I wanted a break from work. I'll let you know if I change my mind though ;)
Read William Meister!
Ho letto Werther quando avevo 16 anni e ricordo di aver pensato "ecco, finalmente so chi è il colpevole delle decine di libri YA che i miei parenti continuano a regalarmi pensando che io sia stupida per un libro da adulti". io in linea di massima non ho niente con i libri YA ma non penso che un ragazzo abbia bisogno di libri "semplificati" o "adattati" alle sue problematiche, gli adolescenti sono perfettamente in grado di leggere libri da adulti. Io sono passata direttamente dai libri per ragazzi a libri più seri e non è che non mi sia sentita coinvolta anzi (hai provato a farti coinvolgere da twilight? io si, è impossibile xD ) sicuramente esisterà qualche Ya degno di nota, ma un buon libro può essere letto e apprezzato da tutti: ragazzi, adulti uomini e donne secondo me.
Bellissimo video, mi piace veramente tanto questa rubrica :D
P.s. finalmente ho letto Miele :) mi aspettavo un capolavoro come espiazione, avevo aspettative troppo alte ma mi è comunque piaciuto (lo stile, descrizione contesto storico e approfondimento psicologico sono sublimi ma la trama mi è parsa debole e il finale prevedibile :/) grazie comunque per il consiglio :)
P.p.s non mi piaceranno gli YA ma non sono così snob da non farmi incuriosire dai casi letterari: hai letto i libri di Karl Owe Knausgard? io ho letto il primo e lo ho adorato e te lo consiglio in tutti i modi, ne vale veramente la pena :)
+martina campea Grazie per il feedback! Davvero dici prevedibile il finale di Sweet Tooth? Io l'avevo trovato completamente mind-blowing, proprio non me l'aspettavo! Knausgard proprio non lo conoscevo ma mi sono informato e pare proprio abbia avuto un successone assurdo!
+The_Bookchemist io ho iniziato a pensare ad un finale del genere dopo aver letto i racconti dentro il romanzo xD ti rispondo perché ti devo assolutamente ringraziare, oggi ho finito the marriage plot - bellissimo -, non lo so l'ho trovato perfetto. secondo te mi conviene recuperare anche middlesex di eugenides? di suo avevo già letto le vergini suicide ma non mi aveva entusiasmato. comunque the marriage plot è un capolavoro!
+martina campea Eheh The Marriage Plot l'ho consigliato a un sacco di persone che puntualmente se ne sono innamorate alla follia! E' davvero bello sì :) Middlesex è un romanzo molto diverso, in gran parte romanzo storico e un pochino Bildungsroman con tratti quasi-realismo-magico-ma-non-proprio. A me era piaciuto (e, per dire, Le Vergini Suicide non era piaciuto neanche a me, non troppo almeno), però un po' meno di The Marriage Plot... di sicuro è una bella lettura in ogni caso :)!
Only shit comes to mind for /German lit is Indian Summer
Sent you an invite to read Pynchon's "Against the Day".
+book case I have begun it very recently and though I have other readings to complete before the year is over (uni stuff), I aim at focusing fully on Against the Day during the first weeks of 2016. I can't wait for that. Curiously enough, I was at a conference yesterday on a handful of contemporary American novels and one of the books discussed was, indeed, Against the Day.
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I studied medieval german literature, and sorry, but that's not true, what you say... Wolfram von Eschenbach, Gottfried von Strassburg, Hartmann von Aue, the unknown author of the Nibelungenlied - these are great writers of great literature. In every literary sense.
You should check out:
Nibelungenlied
Hartman von Aue: Erec
Hartman von Aue: Iwein
Wolfram von Eschenbach: Parzival (the OG post-modern medieval writer)
Gottfried von Straßburg: Tristan
They are best in the original middle-high-german verse (all of them are verse novels), but a fine prose translation with footnotes would do it too.
Would you believe that I never read any other Goethe than this book, and oh how I hated it in school and when I reread it last year it still sucked. Werther is just unbearable. He is so obviously the maker of his own misery and never stops whining.
I really don't like this book, it reads like a well written long tumblr post.
The Fourteenth Ward wow bad take
To be fair, Shakespeare gets way more praise than he deserves.