One of my favorite Mic'd Up moments was when Alex Pietrangelo says, "Uh oh" when he see's Nate Dog coming straight at him and then proceeds to blow right by him and score a goal. haha classic
@@cuylerpenrod1031 The difference may be what gets them angry. With Nate, it's anger at himself for not performing as he believes he can, for not overcoming the obstacles in front of him or others thinking he can't. With Malkin, it seems more about how he gets revenge for him or his teammates being mistreated, not for him feeling he'd missed an opportunity to progress through his own effort. Sure, frustration is part of it for both, but for Mac, the anger others fear is the anger at himself., When he pissed at the refs or another player for doing him dirty that still shows as a smashed stick, splattered water bottle, or a string of words that gets him in the penalty box. When his competitive spirit is questioned by others or more importantly by himself it gets him angry at himself... that's when he'll drop 5+ points on you--and make sure 3 other Avs get at least 3+ points each.
wild to think we got not only nate but kuch, mcdavid, matthews, kaprizov, rantanen, reinhart, ect all putting up crazy numbers at the same time what a great era this is shaping up to be
Hopefully Nathan and Mikko will stay healthy all year and prove they are the best duo in the NHL since their Cup year or the year before it was showing signs.
Angry Nate is the scariest player in the league. As an avs fan McDavid is consistently the better player (how much is debatable). But when Mack is angry there’s nobody better.
I was there at that Montreal - Avs game, it was brutal to watch. One of our friends was a long time Nordiques fan who remained faithful to the Avs, we chirped him all night long every time the Habs scored. Guess in the end he got the last laugh...
I remember watching a game that bad Colorado year. They were playing the Flames and getting pounded. Kelly Hrudey said, "This is really sad. They've just given up." That's nice guy Kelly Hrudey who doesn't take gratuitous shots at teams or players. That's how bad the Avs were, and you saw the players they had and knew they were good players and wondered how they could be so bad. I think it was the way Patrick Roy up and quit them right before the season started. Everything was upset and they never recovered.
Patrick Roy was an impatient coach. He bit off more than he could chew when he tried to interfere with Sakic's management decisions. I loved him as a player, but I'm glad he's gone. I do hope he succeeds in with the Islanders though.
What about Crosby's peak during 11-13' when he averaged over 1.6 PPG when no superstars were putting up 100. The gap between him and next guy was huge.
@@KingOfRealMadrid exactly, feel like a lot casuals don't give him the respect he deserves for his true prime that was taken away due to headshots. Mcdavid had a few dominant years where he was alone at top, but relatively, Crosby had a bigger gap than him compared to rest of his comp if we are just talking about offensive production.
@@tychoncek yup, and obviously there's more to hockey than just point production Crosby is also way more complete than McDavid/Nate. Way, way, way more complete.
Haha. I made this video before he posted that video. I decided to parallel him because we’re talking about the two MVPs of the NBA and NHL who just so happen to play in the same arena and are the same age. It’s a crazy parallel
Skating, shooting, stick-handling, passing, everything Nate does is top 5 in the league in terms of speed. But when he gets the puck, all of it goes from top 5 to top 1.
No, it goes to top 2, mcdavid is better with the puck, he skates way faster and only really messes up when he goes vs 4 guys, sometimes then he doesn't either.
Shameless brag, but I was having a beer with a Stanley Cup winning Dman in summer 2014. Being an Avs fan, I asked him about MacKinnon. He stated that MacK was the scariest player in the league to face 1 on 1.Granted, this was before McDavid was drafted, so it may have changed since. But at the time. Sid, Ovi, Kane, etc. were in their primes, so still pretty impressive.
3:33 This goal by MacKinnon in Game 2 Round 1 of the 2019 playoffs is the moment MacKinnon cemented himself as my 3rd favorite player of all time behind Sakic and Forsberg.
Case in point: One game vs VAN, Avs are up in the closing seconds. Calvert takes a shot to the head and goes down. The refs don't blow the whistle for 20 secs as Calvert is struggling and can't get up. Canucks tie the game. In OT Mack gets the puck, torches everyone and scores.
Avs fan here, no joke, said after that season we'd turn it around, make the cup final in 5 years and win it in 6. Winning it in 5 was just perfect, called it, called it, fucking called it lol
Yep! Started watching hockey in 95… not a bad time to start in Colorado.. and restarted just by chance in 19’… not bad either. Seeing Mack develop as the most explosive and passionate player has been a real head shaker. There will be a sad day in the next 4-5 years I might stop watching again… I don’t envy that person
Its absolutely insane man. The fact that you have the 2 reigning MVPs who are the same age, and both won a championship, playing in the same building is absurd
When Mac was with Halifax, I had no doubt that this kid was gonna be a world class player. But he just got better and better AND I wish he was in a Wings sweater. He is worth a whole lot more than Marner because as Rob says, "He has the game's biggest engine."
what kuch has been doing has been unreal too but he was fortunate to have had stamkos guide him for the first decade of his career while mackinnon had very little support (at first) i mean the avs haven't had a player like mack since sakic. Ofc not trynna diminish anyone's value but one had such good support around them for lengthy periods which resulted in them breaking out early while the other didn't ant it took a minute to reach his full potential
@@ethanparker7900 Rantanen is almost identical to Stamkos skillwise and even in their shared attributes, and Makar will go down in history as the best D to ever play. MacKinnon gets more help than ANYONE in this league. You goofed with this argument. Only Zach Hyman benefits more from teammates in the league than Nate...
ColoRADo is Chicagos' Streak killer, First was in the lockout year, (where black hawks won 30 wins? straight.) and the second time was Patrick Kane's point streak.. (3 years after the latest lockout)
I still think McDavids peak is better than Mackinnon but he’s up there in second. McDavid would have had 2 seasons on pace for 153 points if not for the COVID year and a 140 point pace last year.
Kuch is the only player in the modern era on pace for consecutive 140pt seasons. Mac was never on pace for 153pts. 100 assists and breaking multiple records. He is on pace for 140pts again. Again he is outpacing Mac. And McDavid. His 140 pts last year was impressive, historic, how? It just wasn't. Second? How so? Kuch beats him in every metric career wise. Awards, cups, ppg etc. But Kuches was. For many different reasons. He tied or broke records. What record did Mac break last year? No one mentions how Mac plays the most minutes of any forward in the NHL. He played 60 more minutes than Kuch so far this year, and six more games. Those 60 minutes equates to three whole games. So he played the equilivent in minutes 9 more games than Kuch but only 4 more poits.
@@soulknife20 Thats your rebuttal? 😂 He wins too much. He sat out a whole friggin season and led the playoffs in scoring and won a cup. Yeah. Nice logic.
LOL! This video... you totally described (in far greater detail) what I've been saying about Mackinnon for years! Sort of anyways XD I have a couple buddies that played pro and I have a lot of friends who are athletes, and I have been describing Mackinnon's strengths by simply communicating traits in terms athletes can relate to either first hand or by knowing the mentality in sports, by stating Mackinnon isn't the cerebral player Crosby, McDavid, or Makar are, but he gets angry, is kind of dumb, but has that bullheaded charge that definitely impresses!
Ah 2017 harambe had just died a year ago. We didn’t know it yet but that was the catalyst that sent the world spiraling down into madness. If only we chose life, maybe Matthew’s would keep making his team better rather than the leafs playing like a dynasty team when he’s injured. The penguins wouldn’t have a senior team and a fully stacked predators team wouldn’t be a bottom place team.
@@45-CommentDeleted-47Depends. He gets the 56,000,000 guaranteed. So it would. And the Contract Recapture Plan (or whatever) was designed for these situations.
The problem woth this channel is every prospect is "generational", every stat is a "record", any growth is "exponential", any retired player is a "legend", any change is "shocking", and any random moment "changes the league FOREVER"
@@Plaitonic True. Many don’t recall the long slow decline into mediocrity that led to the complete collapse of 2016-17. But we will again, and I fear sooner rather than later… due to our unique (read Landy) cap issues and diminished prospects depth. But we’ve been on a wagon since and deserve to have pride in the team for which we root. We were spoiled when the team arrived and then immediately won the cup. Then won it again just 5 years later. 21 years passed and for most fans when they won it in ‘22, it was as if the disappointments disappeared (or never existed. But there is a video of me at Amalie for game 6, at the final buzzer, with happy tears rolling down my face as I scream “21 years! 21 years! We did it!” We got 3 of the top 10 players in the world playing for us (maybe 5 of the top 25) and the unrealistically inflated expectations that brings to the ultimate team sport.
I've been arguing MacKinnon is the best in the game for 4 years. I hate the Avs, long time red wings fan. I was a teenager in the mid 90's during their peak rivalry. I do not like saying nice things about the avs but I stand by my declaration of nathan MacKinnon
You're young Rob, so I'll forgive you not being there for the greatest peak. Oct 28 1981-April 2 1985. I'm weighting this peak toward scoring goals so it entirely skips the NHL record season for assists and points. 303 games, 315 goals, 474 assists, 789 points. We're talking about a guy who for a bunch of consecutive years was winning the scoring title by an average of 75 points.
Gen-Xer here…obligated to mention that no one in the NHL has ever scored 200 points in a single season except W. Gretzky, who averaged that from the 1981/82 through the 1986/87 seasons. I mean, that is an Everest summit to Marianas Trench floor’s worth of difference if you want to compare peaks.
Ultimately it’s impossible to compare eras, but that was the expansion era with no salary cap. If a league is forced to create parity through the cap, I believe that holds weight when it comes to offence and production. The fact that Mackinnon, McDavid and Kucherov have come even close is a crazy
Expansion in the sense that the last 4 WHA teams were added to the NHL, I suppose. But those teams were at least somewhat viable (reasonably competitive) in comparison with the 1990s era expansion when new teams were basically created out of thin air and doomed to play badly for years. I get the point about comparing eras, but within eras everyone plays under the same conditions; in Wayne’s era he was the only one putting up numbers like THAT. During those six seasons he averaged over 2.5 ppg and over .9 goals per game. Sure, scoring was up during that era for any number of reasons, but show me the other guys from that time who had anywhere close to similar numbers. They just don’t exist. Thank you for taking the time to reply to my comment; your content is terrific and it helps old goats like me to keep current with the game. We don’t get much coverage in this area since the Thrashers left so your channel is definitely a blessing.
@@SGBassplayerWell said the younger crowd is always going to gun for the players they grew up with, but basic logic should tell you Gretzky is in a league of his own. No one from Any era did what he did and no one is going to. They tried to do the same thing with Football. "Pele's not the greatest because he played in the easier time." As soon as Ronaldo and Messi approached Pele's numbers in the 'modern era' he started finally getting respect from the younger crowd. I'm a young guy myself but I respect the eras. Nate is a hell of a player though.
As if Gretzky’s numbers alone weren’t enough to make him one of the greatest athletes in the history of North American team sports, the fact he did it using a tree branch as a stick puts him at the top of the list for me
mackinnon to me should've had the hart trophy in 2018 cause of his breakout in the 2017-2018 campaign and how he carried the avs from dead last to the playoffs the very last day of the season and had more points in fewer games than hall. Hall and the devils ofc had an amazing year but idk it just seems like mack really took off compared to him
I think his home point streak was around 35 games in a row last year, and had the longest point streak of the season. To call the leading scorer a “point anchor” is not intelligent…
@cal8362 Last season has no impact on the "better than Gretzky" number here. I was pointing out the small sample fallacy that takes 47 points in 31 games and splits it into 19 points 6 games, 0 points in 1 game, and 28 points in 24 games. Neither the pointlessness nor hotness are statistically significant.
I have argued in the recent past that mac is the best player. Mostly for the sake of fun hockey debate but while mcd is the height of speed and skill, Mac brings a game that dog on a bone game, which will drive a team forward more then skill can.
At 7:00 please, the Y-axis must be at 0 or the graph has no point to exists. A graph is supposed to visualize statistics (i.e. numbers) to make them easier for people to quickly understand. If the Y-axis is not at 0, the graph does not give accurate information, thus it's pointless to have it in the first place.
I think this is over reading the data. Kinda like flipping a coin six times for every game, and thinking of the number heads as the number of points a player gets. Then coming up with a story that explains why some games are high and some are low. But maybe I'm wrong - let's see how long the trend continues!
Gee, Nathan MacKinnon, yeah, I guess I'll take him off your hands. In a freaking heartbeat!!! While you're at it, I'll take Makar off your hands too. Rantanen, yeah, let's make that all three.
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Hey Rob, you seem to know your wzay with data. Are you making your graph by yourself ? I like to use R, but I was wondering what you were using.
One of my favorite Mic'd Up moments was when Alex Pietrangelo says, "Uh oh" when he see's Nate Dog coming straight at him and then proceeds to blow right by him and score a goal. haha classic
on the bench after hes like "what im suppose to do there, i cant do anything"
Im pretty sure they keep Nate strapped into a straight jacket at an asylum between games and just unleash him to be a full on angry lunatic
Nope, they have him doing water aerobics with senior citizens.
lolol holy fuck thats funny man haha
Angry Nate is contagious. When he gets going, the other team freezes up in fear and the rest of the Avs feed off his uncontained rage.
Reminds me of Malkin in that way, you don’t wanna get that guy mad bc you know he will put up 4 points on your team if you do
@@cuylerpenrod1031 The difference may be what gets them angry. With Nate, it's anger at himself for not performing as he believes he can, for not overcoming the obstacles in front of him or others thinking he can't. With Malkin, it seems more about how he gets revenge for him or his teammates being mistreated, not for him feeling he'd missed an opportunity to progress through his own effort. Sure, frustration is part of it for both, but for Mac, the anger others fear is the anger at himself., When he pissed at the refs or another player for doing him dirty that still shows as a smashed stick, splattered water bottle, or a string of words that gets him in the penalty box. When his competitive spirit is questioned by others or more importantly by himself it gets him angry at himself... that's when he'll drop 5+ points on you--and make sure 3 other Avs get at least 3+ points each.
If MacKinnon just watched the 2017 Hab replay before every game, he'd easily eclipse 200 points
Any video about Nathan MacKinnon is worth watching
Truth.
wild to think we got not only nate but kuch, mcdavid, matthews, kaprizov, rantanen, reinhart, ect all putting up crazy numbers at the same time what a great era this is shaping up to be
Whats wild is you not including Draisaitl
Not really, it just shows how much scoring has been going up since we have some many players above 1 point per game
Whereas McDavid always so smooth, quick, and in-control, MacKinnon is like a bomb that can go off at any time.
Hopefully Nathan and Mikko will stay healthy all year and prove they are the best duo in the NHL since their Cup year or the year before it was showing signs.
Nah best duo is Connor and that one other dude
"and I discovered something truly shocking"
Mandatory for the ad read
Great, video.
Nate deserves more respect!
Angry Nate is the scariest player in the league. As an avs fan McDavid is consistently the better player (how much is debatable). But when Mack is angry there’s nobody better.
For me, stats have often too much weight in deciding this... Nate´s impact in the playoffs is too powerful to be overlooked...
Nate Dawg
Does he have a CUP though......
lol, MacKinnon is the best player in this league and there ain't even arguments for it.
@@SENDITorBENDITto be fair they lost to a single goal after Edmonton nearly completed a reversed sweep
I was there at that Montreal - Avs game, it was brutal to watch. One of our friends was a long time Nordiques fan who remained faithful to the Avs, we chirped him all night long every time the Habs scored. Guess in the end he got the last laugh...
Ngl that thumbnail got me. When the hell did my Blues ever beat the Avalanche 8-1 in the modern era?!? Normally we're the Avalanche's doormat.
I remember watching a game that bad Colorado year. They were playing the Flames and getting pounded. Kelly Hrudey said, "This is really sad. They've just given up." That's nice guy Kelly Hrudey who doesn't take gratuitous shots at teams or players. That's how bad the Avs were, and you saw the players they had and knew they were good players and wondered how they could be so bad. I think it was the way Patrick Roy up and quit them right before the season started. Everything was upset and they never recovered.
Patrick Roy was an impatient coach. He bit off more than he could chew when he tried to interfere with Sakic's management decisions. I loved him as a player, but I'm glad he's gone. I do hope he succeeds in with the Islanders though.
3:38 "They would win 22 games." I watched every Sharks game last year and they won 19 games and ended up with 47 points.
Pls don't mention that season again, I almost completely erased it from my memory, but now it's back :(
Him and Mcdavid on a Powerplay with Makar, Crosby, Reinhart would be insane
sneaking in reinhart on that list is crazy
Bedard not Reinhart.
@@apapz3245bedard is so fucking overrated it is unreal 😂 does he even average a point per game?
@@navs124657 goal scorer last year and probably this year too. But Kucherov is much better.
@apapz3245, Bedard isn’t on the team dumbah
Gretzky and Lemoeux had some great peak seasons, and i still think prime Ovi from 05-10 would have an argument
What about Crosby's peak during 11-13' when he averaged over 1.6 PPG when no superstars were putting up 100. The gap between him and next guy was huge.
You can even stretch it out from 10-14 peak. Just a slightly lesser degree of dominance.
Crosby has the GOAT peak
66 points in 38 games in an era where only 3-4 guys cracked PPG
Now 50 guys are on a point per game pace
@@KingOfRealMadrid exactly, feel like a lot casuals don't give him the respect he deserves for his true prime that was taken away due to headshots. Mcdavid had a few dominant years where he was alone at top, but relatively, Crosby had a bigger gap than him compared to rest of his comp if we are just talking about offensive production.
@@tychoncek yup, and obviously there's more to hockey than just point production
Crosby is also way more complete than McDavid/Nate. Way, way, way more complete.
You can literally see the change in mackinnons offensive output once he hired his nutrionist and personsl chef and psychologist
Truly the Jimmy high roller of hockey.
Especially after taking the exact title and concept of his last video 🎉
@@Jac5inCooof that’s actually brutal.
Haha. I made this video before he posted that video. I decided to parallel him because we’re talking about the two MVPs of the NBA and NHL who just so happen to play in the same arena and are the same age. It’s a crazy parallel
@ that’s fair, coincidences do happen
But I’m glad you talked about it
Skating, shooting, stick-handling, passing, everything Nate does is top 5 in the league in terms of speed. But when he gets the puck, all of it goes from top 5 to top 1.
No, it goes to top 2, mcdavid is better with the puck, he skates way faster and only really messes up when he goes vs 4 guys, sometimes then he doesn't either.
Mack is so fast in person
Shameless brag, but I was having a beer with a Stanley Cup winning Dman in summer 2014. Being an Avs fan, I asked him about MacKinnon. He stated that MacK was the scariest player in the league to face 1 on 1.Granted, this was before McDavid was drafted, so it may have changed since. But at the time. Sid, Ovi, Kane, etc. were in their primes, so still pretty impressive.
MacKinnon hitting that Coyotes player in the face with his own helmet is hilarious lmao
3:33 This goal by MacKinnon in Game 2 Round 1 of the 2019 playoffs is the moment MacKinnon cemented himself as my 3rd favorite player of all time behind Sakic and Forsberg.
Case in point: One game vs VAN, Avs are up in the closing seconds. Calvert takes a shot to the head and goes down. The refs don't blow the whistle for 20 secs as Calvert is struggling and can't get up. Canucks tie the game.
In OT Mack gets the puck, torches everyone and scores.
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Mac daddy can beat most teams by willpower alone. He reminds me of Michael Jordan. Do not piss off MJ and do not piss off Nathan MacKinnon.
nat dog has flashes of being the best ever. like EVER.
Great video. Super interesting deep dive.
Avs fan here, no joke, said after that season we'd turn it around, make the cup final in 5 years and win it in 6.
Winning it in 5 was just perfect, called it, called it, fucking called it lol
and got the presidents trophy in the covid year and nearly again the cup year the following year and was also close to it in 2020
I had that same feeling since Duchene was traded. I knew that trade was going to change everything
The best player in the world in my opinion
He's the Darth Vader of the NHL. Do NOT piss off Nate Dogg
Yep! Started watching hockey in 95… not a bad time to start in Colorado.. and restarted just by chance in 19’… not bad either. Seeing Mack develop as the most explosive and passionate player has been a real head shaker. There will be a sad day in the next 4-5 years I might stop watching again… I don’t envy that person
Thanks for the vids. Very intertwining to watch. Keep doing these videos man
Colorado fans have Mack, Cale, and Joker. What a time to be alive!
Its absolutely insane man. The fact that you have the 2 reigning MVPs who are the same age, and both won a championship, playing in the same building is absurd
@@RobTalksHockey and they play for the same owners.
10 years from now were gonna be depressed af
Rob you do amazing detailed videos!! Interesting and informative. keep it up and get hired on CBC panel
This is the first time Ive seen Podkholzin full teeth smile. Nuge's reliable pass was a great one❤
Good job on this one. After watching this video he's one of my favorite players. I'll be keeping my eye on him throughout the season.
🤔🤔WHERE is the video you mentioned at 4:35 "We Are Witnessing NHL History"
..I Can't Find It On Your Channel!
🧐🧐
It was blocked by the NHL. I’m trying to get it back up though 🤞🏼
You should make a video about kucherov vs mackinnon and there very diffrent styles of playing
all summed up in 3 words, Stanley Cup Champion!!!!
Get a man who looks at you the way Anders Lee looks at MacKinnon during that MVP acceptance 😅
yes and I'm very here for it, only had to wait 2 decades for it
the graphic at 8:08 where the avs have 14 shots and nashville has 1, but its 3-1 😂
right now he's on pace for a 125 point season.
it was like 147 a day ago wth.
When Mac was with Halifax, I had no doubt that this kid was gonna be a world class player. But he just got better and better AND I wish he was in a Wings sweater. He is worth a whole lot more than Marner because as Rob says, "He has the game's biggest engine."
If you could choose one player to send out on the ice for game 7 of the Stanley Cup final, who are you picking?
Joe Sakic
Is the Quinn Hughes video down?
Mcdavid or lemeuix.
Nate is the definition of a Beast !
If kucherov wasn’t only 4 points behind him with 6 less games played than I would say yes it is the greatest peak. But Mackinnon is a freak of nature
what kuch has been doing has been unreal too but he was fortunate to have had stamkos guide him for the first decade of his career while mackinnon had very little support (at first) i mean the avs haven't had a player like mack since sakic. Ofc not trynna diminish anyone's value but one had such good support around them for lengthy periods which resulted in them breaking out early while the other didn't ant it took a minute to reach his full potential
Forsberg? Landeskog and Rantanen?
@@ChristianKrillz those guys are great but aren't in the same category as stamkos or hedman
@@ethanparker7900 Rantanen is almost identical to Stamkos skillwise and even in their shared attributes, and Makar will go down in history as the best D to ever play. MacKinnon gets more help than ANYONE in this league. You goofed with this argument. Only Zach Hyman benefits more from teammates in the league than Nate...
@@ChristianKrillz eh identical is a stretch and rantanen kinda did benefit from mackinnon
_"And then something just snapped. Something inside of me. I didn't care anymore."_ - Nathan MacKinnon
ColoRADo is Chicagos' Streak killer, First was in the lockout year, (where black hawks won 30 wins? straight.) and the second time was Patrick Kane's point streak.. (3 years after the latest lockout)
Is the Hughes video taken down?
Yeah man 😢
@@RobTalksHockey hope it comes back, even if you have to blur out some game footage?
I still think McDavids peak is better than Mackinnon but he’s up there in second. McDavid would have had 2 seasons on pace for 153 points if not for the COVID year and a 140 point pace last year.
Draisaitl *hold my beer*
Kuch is the only player in the modern era on pace for consecutive 140pt seasons. Mac was never on pace for 153pts. 100 assists and breaking multiple records. He is on pace for 140pts again. Again he is outpacing Mac. And McDavid.
His 140 pts last year was impressive, historic, how? It just wasn't. Second? How so? Kuch beats him in every metric career wise. Awards, cups, ppg etc.
But Kuches was. For many different reasons. He tied or broke records. What record did Mac break last year? No one mentions how Mac plays the most minutes of any forward in the NHL. He played 60 more minutes than Kuch so far this year, and six more games. Those 60 minutes equates to three whole games. So he played the equilivent in minutes 9 more games than Kuch but only 4 more poits.
@@chelious1973Kucherov has also shown he can't win a cup in a regular length season
@@soulknife20 Thats your rebuttal? 😂 He wins too much. He sat out a whole friggin season and led the playoffs in scoring and won a cup. Yeah. Nice logic.
@@chelious1973That whole season was 30 games. Not exactly impressive, son.
LOL! This video... you totally described (in far greater detail) what I've been saying about Mackinnon for years! Sort of anyways XD
I have a couple buddies that played pro and I have a lot of friends who are athletes, and I have been describing Mackinnon's strengths by simply communicating traits in terms athletes can relate to either first hand or by knowing the mentality in sports, by stating Mackinnon isn't the cerebral player Crosby, McDavid, or Makar are, but he gets angry, is kind of dumb, but has that bullheaded charge that definitely impresses!
#96 Rantanen - #29 Mäkinen - #62 Lehkonen, maybe best line coming from Finland, ever.
2017 Avs were the laughing stock of so many memes. And oh my god the backwards pass on the breakaway. Funniest moment in recent NHL history.
Its a good time to be a hockey fan.
Sounds like a sith lord
More pain, more anger = more Power 😄
Love that the sens live rent free in your tiny mind 😂
Hahaha. Hey, Brady Tkachuk is one of my favourite players of all time. That should count for something
MacKinnon needs to go to the Leafs!
Ah 2017 harambe had just died a year ago. We didn’t know it yet but that was the catalyst that sent the world spiraling down into madness. If only we chose life, maybe Matthew’s would keep making his team better rather than the leafs playing like a dynasty team when he’s injured. The penguins wouldn’t have a senior team and a fully stacked predators team wouldn’t be a bottom place team.
9:15 I agree Graves might look a bit confused, but isn’t disrupting the passing lane how you defend a 2 on 1?
I feel so lucky every time i go to an avalanche game and I'm able to watch NATE THE GREAT! My god he is ridiculous
I feel like just last night I saw the same title about NBA Jokic 😎
Someone just watched the Jokic Jxmmy video lol
Go Nathan Go!
REMEMBER: The Avs have not had a captain for THREE seasons now. They keep pretending Gabe Landeskog is coming back.
The thing is, even if Landeskog retires, the Avs still have to pay his contract.
@@soulknife20 It won't count against the salary cap, though.
@45-CommentDeleted-47 Yes, it will. Why? Because he has 56,000,000 guaranteed. And the Cap Recapture Penalty.
@@45-CommentDeleted-47Depends. He gets the 56,000,000 guaranteed. So it would. And the Contract Recapture Plan (or whatever) was designed for these situations.
do mcdavid next
greatest peak in nhl history if you single out the games where he scores a lot and ignore the ones where he doesn't
The problem woth this channel is every prospect is "generational", every stat is a "record", any growth is "exponential", any retired player is a "legend", any change is "shocking", and any random moment "changes the league FOREVER"
Dude, that's just the nature of hockey under a microscope.
Nathan Hulk MacKinnon
Colorado fans forgot what humble was after 2017
Hahaha exactly
@@Plaitonic True. Many don’t recall the long slow decline into mediocrity that led to the complete collapse of 2016-17. But we will again, and I fear sooner rather than later… due to our unique (read Landy) cap issues and diminished prospects depth. But we’ve been on a wagon since and deserve to have pride in the team for which we root. We were spoiled when the team arrived and then immediately won the cup. Then won it again just 5 years later. 21 years passed and for most fans when they won it in ‘22, it was as if the disappointments disappeared (or never existed. But there is a video of me at Amalie for game 6, at the final buzzer, with happy tears rolling down my face as I scream “21 years! 21 years! We did it!” We got 3 of the top 10 players in the world playing for us (maybe 5 of the top 25) and the unrealistically inflated expectations that brings to the ultimate team sport.
No, Draisailt is steaming ahead and will catch Nate.
I mean, probably. To be the greatest goal scorer of all-time AND THEN get better at age 39??? Unfathomable.
Mack is a running back on skates !
canucks throttled them, sheerwood with the hat trick.
Do you think my theory holds some weight?
not at all
Some of his moves & stick handling is quite Datsyuk looking.
he is the greatest player on the NHL ice right now... Period!
love Nate.
I've been arguing MacKinnon is the best in the game for 4 years. I hate the Avs, long time red wings fan. I was a teenager in the mid 90's during their peak rivalry. I do not like saying nice things about the avs but I stand by my declaration of nathan MacKinnon
As an Avs fan, please get good again. The NHL is only 100% entertaining when both the Avs and Wings are playing incredible.
What happened to the Hughes video?
Blocked by the NHL :(
You're young Rob, so I'll forgive you not being there for the greatest peak. Oct 28 1981-April 2 1985.
I'm weighting this peak toward scoring goals so it entirely skips the NHL record season for assists and points.
303 games, 315 goals, 474 assists, 789 points. We're talking about a guy who for a bunch of consecutive years was winning the scoring title by an average of 75 points.
Gen-Xer here…obligated to mention that no one in the NHL has ever scored 200 points in a single season except W. Gretzky, who averaged that from the 1981/82 through the 1986/87 seasons.
I mean, that is an Everest summit to Marianas Trench floor’s worth of difference if you want to compare peaks.
Ultimately it’s impossible to compare eras, but that was the expansion era with no salary cap. If a league is forced to create parity through the cap, I believe that holds weight when it comes to offence and production. The fact that Mackinnon, McDavid and Kucherov have come even close is a crazy
Expansion in the sense that the last 4 WHA teams were added to the NHL, I suppose. But those teams were at least somewhat viable (reasonably competitive) in comparison with the 1990s era expansion when new teams were basically created out of thin air and doomed to play badly for years.
I get the point about comparing eras, but within eras everyone plays under the same conditions; in Wayne’s era he was the only one putting up numbers like THAT.
During those six seasons he averaged over 2.5 ppg and over .9 goals per game. Sure, scoring was up during that era for any number of reasons, but show me the other guys from that time who had anywhere close to similar numbers. They just don’t exist.
Thank you for taking the time to reply to my comment; your content is terrific and it helps old goats like me to keep current with the game. We don’t get much coverage in this area since the Thrashers left so your channel is definitely a blessing.
@@SGBassplayerWell said the younger crowd is always going to gun for the players they grew up with, but basic logic should tell you Gretzky is in a league of his own. No one from Any era did what he did and no one is going to.
They tried to do the same thing with Football. "Pele's not the greatest because he played in the easier time." As soon as Ronaldo and Messi approached Pele's numbers in the 'modern era' he started finally getting respect from the younger crowd.
I'm a young guy myself but I respect the eras. Nate is a hell of a player though.
As if Gretzky’s numbers alone weren’t enough to make him one of the greatest athletes in the history of North American team sports, the fact he did it using a tree branch as a stick puts him at the top of the list for me
I’m not a avs fan by any means but I am a Mac fan
true fan, great video
Isn't it crazy how some players are just so much better than others? Humans are cool.
2nd youngest after crosby and gretzky lol. 12 & 17 no overlap because sid was hurt
And… that’s why he’s the goat. THA GOAT!! 🐐
mackinnon to me should've had the hart trophy in 2018 cause of his breakout in the 2017-2018 campaign and how he carried the avs from dead last to the playoffs the very last day of the season and had more points in fewer games than hall. Hall and the devils ofc had an amazing year but idk it just seems like mack really took off compared to him
good stick Lehk!
7:59 So basically, McKinnon is normally a pointless anchor, but he has short flashes of greatness that paper over the dry spells?
I think his home point streak was around 35 games in a row last year, and had the longest point streak of the season. To call the leading scorer a “point anchor” is not intelligent…
@cal8362 Last season has no impact on the "better than Gretzky" number here. I was pointing out the small sample fallacy that takes 47 points in 31 games and splits it into 19 points 6 games, 0 points in 1 game, and 28 points in 24 games. Neither the pointlessness nor hotness are statistically significant.
I have argued in the recent past that mac is the best player. Mostly for the sake of fun hockey debate but while mcd is the height of speed and skill, Mac brings a game that dog on a bone game, which will drive a team forward more then skill can.
Short answer, yes, yes we are.
At 7:00 please, the Y-axis must be at 0 or the graph has no point to exists. A graph is supposed to visualize statistics (i.e. numbers) to make them easier for people to quickly understand. If the Y-axis is not at 0, the graph does not give accurate information, thus it's pointless to have it in the first place.
“There is zero overlap” yeah because Crosby played 22 games in 2012… there woulda been overlap
Okay, the point was not that there wouldn’t be one player overlapping, rather, majority of the scoring races overlap today compared to one player
I think this is over reading the data. Kinda like flipping a coin six times for every game, and thinking of the number heads as the number of points a player gets. Then coming up with a story that explains why some games are high and some are low.
But maybe I'm wrong - let's see how long the trend continues!
Can someone on the Canucks mgmt team pls as the Avs for a referral to that sports psychologist? Petey desperatly needs some help!
Gee, Nathan MacKinnon, yeah, I guess I'll take him off your hands. In a freaking heartbeat!!! While you're at it, I'll take Makar off your hands too. Rantanen, yeah, let's make that all three.
I mean your comparing Mackinnon to an 6th defenceman in grizlyk 😂