It really wasn't the concussion that caused the problems. The doctors missed a secondary vertebrae injury that caused many symptoms similar to a concussion that kept him out for so long. It wasn't until Sid talked to Tom Brady, who advised him to get a second opinion, that it was finally caught and he came back not long after. Pens fired their whole medical staff that off season. Without all the missed time he at minimum wins 4 Harts, 4 Art Ross and 4 Ted Lindsays. And thats a conservative estimate.
Fun story: On the night of the infamous Islanders brawl game, I was working as a drum tech/sound guy at a resort in Palm Springs, CA. I was watching the game on a TV as the band was playing, but couldn't get all the information about what went on as I didn't own a smartphone yet. We had finished up the gig, packed up the car, and were about to leave when Charles Barkley pulled up to the place and offered to buy us drinks! So we walked back in to the bar where the band played and he bought a round of drinks for everyone. In the hour or more that we were there with him (just two band members, me, the bartender, and one other lucky person), the highlights came back up on the TV and I mentioned to the drummer that this was the game I was watching. Charles heard me, and said "yeah, they were getting revenge on Brent Johnson." He knew all about the context, the history...he's a hockey fan! So...that was pretty cool...talking hockey with Charles Barkley in a bar with less than 6 people.
25:39 i wish you showed the full clip of that goal. Not a Pens fan but thats one of my favorite Crosby plays ever, he completely deked and toyed the whole sens defense for like 6 seconds and finding Letang through sheer willpower. Amazing stuff. Great video though!
As an Oilers fan for over 30 years your series on them was unreal! I cant wait for this one. Just in time for the Hall of Fame game Oct.25th when they play each other too.🎉
i finally got around to finishing the video in its entirety and i think one of my favourite parts about the community you’ve built is that you can say things like “wait THAT mikael samuelsson” and everyone knows who you’re talking about lol
Flawless video dude I was entering my super moody and tumultuous teens around this time so a lot of this is a real blur aside from a few notable Islanders brawls. I really appreciate the trip dahn memory lane (albeit a bizarre and frustrating one) with a fellow lucky kid that got to grow up watching Sidney Crosby. Cant wait for part 2 🖤💛
Amazing 💚 - have just found this channel and finished binge watching the other videos!! Seriously have no clue why this channel isn't huge (yet!) - thank you!
I really love these long form video. The oilers series was fantastic and I'm stoked for this one. Pittsburgh was my 2nd favourite team in the post lockout years (life long flames fan). Ever consider a video or maybe even a series about the flames run in the finals in 04? The hilarity of terrible teams, bad draft picks, bad trades, bad signings, even worse nonsigning, probably the most untalented lunch and pail roster (minus Iggy and Kipper) to make it to game 7 of finals could really fit well with your style. I'm also super stoked for the inevitible 15 part series on the 2011 - 2032, magicals years between playoff appearences of the Buffalo Sabers.
I said it to someone else but I really feel like the Flames are due a video. They kinda feel lost in the mix in Western Canada, they don't have the legacy of the Oilers or suffering of the Canucks, they're the middle child
I was excited for this video, and then the first frame wiped the smile off of my face quickly. 2009 never happened. The series wasn’t finished. This is an AI image.
great video. I've always been a Pens fan from the UK and in two days I'm finally making the trip across the pond to see them in person so this was perfectly timed!
As a Pens fan, these were some dark years. I hate Halak, 2013 should have been our year, but we became mental midgets, the stupid NY Rangers. Thank God for 16 and 17
Not only was 2013 a big disappointment but you can argue that 2014 as well cost the penguins another cup with that monumental 3-1 choke job vs the Rangers in the 2nd round
@@onerepublicrox Montreal may have been cup hangover tbh, and the Habs simply riding a wave/being a team of destiny that postseason. It definitely didn't seem hard to predict a Hawks vs Pens finals that year though, I'll just say that. 2011 vs Tampa was from missing both Peak Crosby and an injured Malkin (lol), the 2014 series vs New York actually is sorta insane to me because the Pens lowkey could've easily handled the 2014 Kings if they made the Finals IMO.
@@jfedol7760 2010 halak was godly and fleury wasn’t the greatest. Yes, the 2011 choke is forgivable. They didn’t have Crosby or Malkin. 2014, we had a defense first system and the offense dried up. We also choked a 3-1 lead to the rangers in 2022. So 4 times from 2010-2022
Hats off to you, Mr. Oakley. Astounded by how well put together your videos are and how you manage to capture the nostalgia. Makes me relive this era of the Pens. Truly remarkable. Videos like this are why Disney+ and other streaming services won't gain a foothold any time soon in my home.
that 2010 caps season could lead to its own series because the fallout and make up trades that were made from it lead to the caps getting the back to back pres trophies and cup way later than they should’ve
Ben. You beauty. When you said Thanks alot David Volek' All I could think of is how I was hoping for Pitt to whooop Mtl --- Quebec Nordiques were stacked and they decided to lose to Mtl Mtl cupcaked NYI. Thanks alot, Volek.
That 09/10 Flyers team had a bad regular season, but were actually pretty freakin stacked in retrospect. I don't think its guaranteed they beat them. Thats not even mentioning the Blackhawks that year, who were absolutely loaded with one of the best post lockout rosters. No chance they win that year.
Halak robbed the hockey world of an Ovi Crosby rematch and a Washington Chicago final. Smh (Edit: I know that they matched up 3 times after but the hype of this rematch would’ve been next level)
Always feel so bad for Marc Savard. He played Jr B for my local team near Ottawa and, imo, that should've been the end of Cooke's career. League should have banished him.
Gomez may have been overpaid but he is by far the best player i have ever played with and against. I did beat him and everyone else at a hockey camp in a shootout competition but that doesnt mean much.
The "game" with the Islanders being as noteworthy as it is has always confused me, it seemed like a fairly standard blowup because tensions were allowed to escalate as dirty play went unpunished. A league that watches a bench full of players laughing as someone on the other team leaves the ice due to injury and doesn't at the very least fine some people is inviting shit like that to happen. When the league doesn't police the boys, the boys police themselves. Under no circumstances should you let the boys police themselves because they turn off their brains and stop playing hockey. I genuinely do not care who started it or who took it too far, both teams went into that game knowing what was going to happen. The goons got called up, every ref, player, GM and fan in the building knew that something was going to happen and nothing was done to prevent it. Whatever I'm sure that 3 game suspension really taught everyone their lesson.
I want to live in the alternate reality where Crosby never gets that concussion.
I've been there. It's glorious.
@@mrfake675 And Fleury is a life-time penguin
It really wasn't the concussion that caused the problems. The doctors missed a secondary vertebrae injury that caused many symptoms similar to a concussion that kept him out for so long. It wasn't until Sid talked to Tom Brady, who advised him to get a second opinion, that it was finally caught and he came back not long after. Pens fired their whole medical staff that off season.
Without all the missed time he at minimum wins 4 Harts, 4 Art Ross and 4 Ted Lindsays. And thats a conservative estimate.
The return of the king
Fun story: On the night of the infamous Islanders brawl game, I was working as a drum tech/sound guy at a resort in Palm Springs, CA. I was watching the game on a TV as the band was playing, but couldn't get all the information about what went on as I didn't own a smartphone yet. We had finished up the gig, packed up the car, and were about to leave when Charles Barkley pulled up to the place and offered to buy us drinks! So we walked back in to the bar where the band played and he bought a round of drinks for everyone. In the hour or more that we were there with him (just two band members, me, the bartender, and one other lucky person), the highlights came back up on the TV and I mentioned to the drummer that this was the game I was watching. Charles heard me, and said "yeah, they were getting revenge on Brent Johnson." He knew all about the context, the history...he's a hockey fan! So...that was pretty cool...talking hockey with Charles Barkley in a bar with less than 6 people.
Chuck knows his stuff! That's a great story!
That’s actually WILD. I love this!
25:39 i wish you showed the full clip of that goal. Not a Pens fan but thats one of my favorite Crosby plays ever, he completely deked and toyed the whole sens defense for like 6 seconds and finding Letang through sheer willpower. Amazing stuff. Great video though!
I wish I could show longer clips, but the NHL makes me keep them shorter than 15 seconds!
@oakley22610 ahh that makes sense. Love the videos. Very professionally edited and before I knew it the hour was over. Keep doing these!
As an Oilers fan for over 30 years your series on them was unreal! I cant wait for this one. Just in time for the Hall of Fame game Oct.25th when they play each other too.🎉
Welcome back Ben! Excited for the new series
"which puts him at league average for 1986"
yeah, buddy's back and he's still elite
I'd love to see a series about the 2009-2012 Coyotes in your style. But for now, I can't wait to see where this series goes! ❤
Those were some shockingly good teams
Oh boy. 7 long years, because you could see the potential, but it took a cleansing internally for it to come together.
i finally got around to finishing the video in its entirety and i think one of my favourite parts about the community you’ve built is that you can say things like “wait THAT mikael samuelsson” and everyone knows who you’re talking about lol
i’ve always been fascinated by this time frame of the pens for some reason, so i’m excited that there’s a series specifically about it
I was at the game at 16:29. This video was quite a nostalgia trip because these were my first full seasons as a hockey fan.
Damn ben you're gunna make me cry with this one as a diehard pens fan
Flawless video dude
I was entering my super moody and tumultuous teens around this time so a lot of this is a real blur aside from a few notable Islanders brawls. I really appreciate the trip dahn memory lane (albeit a bizarre and frustrating one) with a fellow lucky kid that got to grow up watching Sidney Crosby.
Cant wait for part 2 🖤💛
As a pens fan these videoes are great! Its easy to forget all the crazy shit that goes on in seasons like this one. Appreciate the quality!
So good to see another video, this one recapping the pain of my childhood.
Next one is gonna sting
Dude thank you so much for these videos! amazing work! It’s been a wild ride living through this era as a Pittsburgh native.
Lets go Pens! 🐧 🖊️
Amazing 💚 - have just found this channel and finished binge watching the other videos!! Seriously have no clue why this channel isn't huge (yet!) - thank you!
I really love these long form video. The oilers series was fantastic and I'm stoked for this one. Pittsburgh was my 2nd favourite team in the post lockout years (life long flames fan). Ever consider a video or maybe even a series about the flames run in the finals in 04? The hilarity of terrible teams, bad draft picks, bad trades, bad signings, even worse nonsigning, probably the most untalented lunch and pail roster (minus Iggy and Kipper) to make it to game 7 of finals could really fit well with your style. I'm also super stoked for the inevitible 15 part series on the 2011 - 2032, magicals years between playoff appearences of the Buffalo Sabers.
I said it to someone else but I really feel like the Flames are due a video. They kinda feel lost in the mix in Western Canada, they don't have the legacy of the Oilers or suffering of the Canucks, they're the middle child
Canadian here, that call "Crosby scores! Crosby scores! The Golden Goal!" gives me chills.
What a moment that was😊
I was excited for this video, and then the first frame wiped the smile off of my face quickly. 2009 never happened. The series wasn’t finished. This is an AI image.
@@ericksheldon3870 Very interesting, will look into this!
Great video. I definitely rooted for the penguins during this time .the 2016 teams is still one of my all-time favorites.
Looking forward to part 2! Criminally underrated channel. Looked through all of your videos since seeing this, great stuff
Bro you're my fav hockey youtuber, keep up the great work!
great video. I've always been a Pens fan from the UK and in two days I'm finally making the trip across the pond to see them in person so this was perfectly timed!
10/10 - actually Steve Downie getting called out makes it 11/10
Wait until he's a Penguin later in the series, my opinion is unchanged!
@@oakley22610 Love to hear it, as an Avs fan, I hate he played for us
Woah, this is a high quality hockey history video. Gonna have to binge your oilers series now. Great work.
47:15 That misdirection from Dupuis was *insane*
He was so good dude!
each video outdoes the last, great work!
Yay!! I love these long form reviews of under-discussed/under-appreciated teams.
Just started and already know it's gonna be dope as F !!!!! Thank you for this stuff !!!!
As a Pens fan, these were some dark years. I hate Halak, 2013 should have been our year, but we became mental midgets, the stupid NY Rangers. Thank God for 16 and 17
Not only was 2013 a big disappointment but you can argue that 2014 as well cost the penguins another cup with that monumental 3-1 choke job vs the Rangers in the 2nd round
Yeah, early 2010s King Henrik will do that to you.
@@jfedol7760way too many 3-1 chokes. Montreal, Tampa, and rangers.
@@onerepublicrox Montreal may have been cup hangover tbh, and the Habs simply riding a wave/being a team of destiny that postseason. It definitely didn't seem hard to predict a Hawks vs Pens finals that year though, I'll just say that. 2011 vs Tampa was from missing both Peak Crosby and an injured Malkin (lol), the 2014 series vs New York actually is sorta insane to me because the Pens lowkey could've easily handled the 2014 Kings if they made the Finals IMO.
@@jfedol7760 2010 halak was godly and fleury wasn’t the greatest.
Yes, the 2011 choke is forgivable. They didn’t have Crosby or Malkin.
2014, we had a defense first system and the offense dried up.
We also choked a 3-1 lead to the rangers in 2022. So 4 times from 2010-2022
Thanks for the acknowledgement
@GhostWalker40, Loved Watching Ur Highlights Of The Pens As A Kid, My Childhood Memories Came Back When I Seen The GW40 On The Bottom Left
@@prestonraeburn4149 Appreciate it! Those were my, no job/rich wife, Florida days. 😁
Great to see you back on another deep dive. Good work !
YES THIS IS GONNA BE SO GOOD
new vid on my birthday. what a W
First video that I'm this early to watch. Proud to finally call myself an early viewer.
Hats off to you, Mr. Oakley. Astounded by how well put together your videos are and how you manage to capture the nostalgia. Makes me relive this era of the Pens. Truly remarkable. Videos like this are why Disney+ and other streaming services won't gain a foothold any time soon in my home.
nice to be reminded that i didn't hallucinate those years where MAF was jarringly (or, perhaps, "Jarry-ingly") fragile in the net
Next episode it gets worse!
Love this, can’t wait for more
that 2010 caps season could lead to its own series because the fallout and make up trades that were made from it lead to the caps getting the back to back pres trophies and cup way later than they should’ve
Can't wait for the next one
That one punch on dipietro was a core memory
YES YES YES (even as a massive rangers fan i have to admit that this is a great series)
Would love to see a retrospective on the Holiday Era Canucks. Some great teams that never got it done
Almost feel like you can do one about the avs from like 2011-2018. Cause man so many highs and lows lol but love your videos!
That boy was me too, lifelong pens fan
The goat is back
Absolute cinema‼️
Love all your content man!!
Ben. You beauty. When you said Thanks alot David Volek' All I could think of is how I was hoping for Pitt to whooop Mtl --- Quebec Nordiques were stacked and they decided to lose to Mtl Mtl cupcaked NYI. Thanks alot, Volek.
Josh Yohe is the guest? That's awesome, screw who I was thinking. [hits subscribe button]
love the videos man
You know this did get me thinking about why the Pens didn't win more cups between 2010-2015
This is gonna be good
Fuck yeah ben oakley video
Rupp actually had his best years with us.
@@onerepublicrox he really did, he wasn't bad at all!
Flawless
This needs a better title but the delivery is great.
You're probably right on the first count and thanks on the second!
NEW BEN OAKLEY VIDEO NEW BEN OAKLEY VIDEO NEW BEN OAKLEY VIDEO NEW BEN OAKLEY VIDEO
Goat
guess who’s back, back again, Ben Oakley’s back, tell a friend
Goon per capita is a great expression
This should be fun
This is good work - The audio quality needs improvement though.
The audio is much better in the 2nd episode! 😁
27:22 Matt Cullen? I’m sure he won’t become important later.
That 09/10 Flyers team had a bad regular season, but were actually pretty freakin stacked in retrospect. I don't think its guaranteed they beat them. Thats not even mentioning the Blackhawks that year, who were absolutely loaded with one of the best post lockout rosters. No chance they win that year.
Halak robbed the hockey world of an Ovi Crosby rematch and a Washington Chicago final. Smh
(Edit: I know that they matched up 3 times after but the hype of this rematch would’ve been next level)
once we get to the Brenden Morrow trade I'm gonna start crying so get ready
Sure Mike Rupp didn’t score much, but to be fair one of those goals was a game 7 Stanley Cup winner in 2003.
After he joined the Pens he scored a couple goals, as far as fighters go he was a pretty capable NHL player
Always feel so bad for Marc Savard. He played Jr B for my local team near Ottawa and, imo, that should've been the end of Cooke's career. League should have banished him.
Savard had some genuinely superstar level seasons, he rocked
I’m pre sure Dan hamius signed to van instead of pit is because he’s from bc
40:30 nobody was beating Chicago that year.
Gomez may have been overpaid but he is by far the best player i have ever played with and against. I did beat him and everyone else at a hockey camp in a shootout competition but that doesnt mean much.
Pls do a video on the flames 04 run ;)
Definitely on my radar, I just need to do a Flames video in general tbh, I feel like they're due!
yay ben!
I've always assumed Trevor Gillies was related to Clark. Go figure....
rip my Pens
whats the intro song?
It's something I wrote that I had lying around, maybe I'll release it someday haha
as another zenon it's pronounced zen-in but overall phenomenal video
Good to know!
No way
Let’s go Fight Night! Islanders stood up for themselves and won the game at the same time!
They certainly won most of those fights
@@oakley22610 haha that’s for sure. But like you said they were definitely a goon squad back then
Guess you could say the pens got the “halak tuah” 😅
I have a problem
I'm getting in contact with the proper authorities
I really hope Rupp wasn't paid "8.25k" per year
Whoops, you're right, poor Rupper, I misspoke, not sure how I didn't catch that!
@@oakley22610 Haha the guy must have really liked Pittsburgh to take that contract
The "game" with the Islanders being as noteworthy as it is has always confused me, it seemed like a fairly standard blowup because tensions were allowed to escalate as dirty play went unpunished. A league that watches a bench full of players laughing as someone on the other team leaves the ice due to injury and doesn't at the very least fine some people is inviting shit like that to happen. When the league doesn't police the boys, the boys police themselves. Under no circumstances should you let the boys police themselves because they turn off their brains and stop playing hockey. I genuinely do not care who started it or who took it too far, both teams went into that game knowing what was going to happen. The goons got called up, every ref, player, GM and fan in the building knew that something was going to happen and nothing was done to prevent it. Whatever I'm sure that 3 game suspension really taught everyone their lesson.
Yeah, I think even more than a bad look for either team, it was a bad look for the league!
Looking back, the “skate around” Fleury does after letting in a goal is the most cringe thing ever and aged horribly.
The jets * 8-0 now
That Islanders team should've been banned from NHL for the next 60 years
Probably extreme haha but I do think they got off easy for that game
They lost again😂
I unfortunately am aware, not great times they're headed for!
I hate the city of Philadelphia so god damn bad its not concveivable to anyone who lives outside of Pittsburgh
I live in the Philly suburbs now so no shade to the city but I certainly don't like their sports teams