Stripped Wheel Lock Key Frozen Stuck Wheel Lug Removal On BMW Using The AGA Wheel Lock Removal Tool
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- Опубліковано 30 лип 2021
- This should have been an easy brake job except...I found a stripped wheel lock key and was unable to remove the rims. In this video I go over how to remove a BMW wheel lock key using an AGA wheel lock removal tool. This type of failure often happens when the wheel locks are not torqued correctly. An impact gun or torque stick should never be used on a wheel lock. They should always be tightened by hand and then torqued with a torque wrench. Most dealers will charge about a half hour for each stuck on wheel lock. Dealers also have a master set of wheel locks so if you lose your wheel lock they can match it up with the set and be able to help you order a replacement wheel lock with the parts department.
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Best video on this I've found. Nice job!
Thanks Robert!
Did loads of those back in the days at the dealer, usually takes me 5 minutes if that.
Didn't have to use that tool, initially a guy stayed back till 9pm to drill out, but he devised a better method in the end.
You need:
19mm twist socket. (pretty sure of it, Wurth's set works great).
23mm bihex chrome socket (you need to get allot of those cheapies to see which one slots into the bolt wheel (this is for removing the ring).
1/2" breaker bar.
Hammer.
Get a suitably sized 23mm, smack it into the spinning bolt.
Attach breaker bar and straighten the handle flush with the socket and yank up and down on it.
The ring should break off.
Smack in the 19mm socket twist socket (aim well).
Breaker bar the 19mm twist socket and it should come off.
You can however tape off the wheel, but really there is no point, all advised damage possibilty.
Wheels are not a common target in most countries, just replace with standard M14x1.25 bolts torque spec 140nm.
Thanks for sharing the specifics Devin!
Any advice on lug bolts that are just seized? I've tried heat and 36" breaker bar.....no luck. I plan on trying the tool he recommended at the end of the video, but any advice would be appreciated.
@@nkereeneyo1063 Hello Nkere, For lugs that are seized you should try to shock with a hammer by putting the socket in and hitting the back of the socket very hard. This can sometimes break the tension. Then it's all about leverage and a long breaker bar. I use the EZ red 3/4 extendable ratchet with a 3/4 to 1/2 impact adapter.
@@AskTheCarExperts AWESOME ADVICE!! I did exactly this and they all came off!.....except the 2 that I rounded. My breaker bar was 3' and I had to add 4' pipe! Going to use the tool you recommended at the end on the rounded bolts. Thanks for the help!! KEEP THE VIDS COMING!
@@nkereeneyo1063 Awesome! I will keep them coming and I am going to have some giveaways soon that I am starting to plan. :)
Thanks for the video, i have a full understanding
Nice work.
yeeeeeees! worked a treat
Thank you for the video....will give it a try later
Your welcome!
Totally agree gorillas in tyre shops over use air gun then "torque" without setting the Newton's,yes of course it will "click"
LOL I just had two today I needed to extract! Crazy!
Excellent
Thanks a lot! Very helpful:)
Your very welcome! Glad the video helped!
Thank you soo much
Nice work, I also hate when the wheel locks are too tight or like you showed damage or worn tool but before all that you have to find the locking tool from the customer’s car if it there at all.
Hi Christian! Nothing worse than a pile of crap in a trunk and dirty clothes on top 😆
I just did mine, hit the stripped key lock with a hammer it will sink in and you will be able to turn it trust me. The dealer quoted $160 for just the removal ...lucky me when I did it.
Nice! For a lot of the ones I have done they are over torqued and the only way to get them out is this procedure.
it was so good video. do you have still aga tool??
i need it........
some shops just don't care, I have got to where if I don't know the mechanic or service guy then I don't use them.
That is very smart. Having a direct relationship with one mechanic you trust is a great thing.
Were you doing this work using your garage at home? Looks like you have another BMW up on a lift but like most garages you're limited to an 8' ceiling. If that's correct, what brand lift are you using; do you like it? I'm looking for a similar set-up because anything is better than putting a car on jack stands and crawling underneath it. Thanks for your videos.
This video was made at home and I do have a lift installed. I am also limited in height so I opted to use the Danmar M6 lift that is a half lift. I can put my E46 up pretty high but X vehicles is a bit tough to get under but for suspension work it is a good choice.
Damage wheel nut key caused by the garage monkey using an air gun to put the nuts back.
As a mobile tyre fitter in the UK these wheel nuts do my head in when they've been completely over-tightened.
However, these aren't as bad as the Peugeot, and now Vauxhall, 4 pin locking wheel nuts. You know, the ones where the pin falls out or the garage monkey rounds the pins so they just slip off. These things should be banned!
LOL 😆 Ya they can be a royal pain. Had to drill some out before or air hammer them up to finally get them out. Another trick is to pry on the wheel to help release the tension on the lug.
Had this happen today, thanks for sharing the detailed video. The mcguard key stripped on the security lug, it was very tight and I was at it with a moderate sized breaker bar. I will toss the rest of these Hyundai supplied wheel locks when I can get this one off, the only thing they are good at is keeping their owners from changing their brakes! Getting to the point of not wanting to to tire shops. All they do is hammer fasteners and lug nuts with the impact! Mcguard says their key is proprietary/custom per the code, do you think the Hyundai dealer can get these faster or has them in stock? I figure they must have master sets of these as they work on them all day long, going to try to call a few tomorrow - can't wait a week to get them from the vendor. Thanks!
Hi Brian, Where I work we have a master set. Most dealers have a master set. However, if it was overtightened I find at my shop we end up breaking the new wheel lock key. The AGA tool is then used. You can use a Dremel to cut the ring off and then a lug extractor. But this is more labor and time intensive. Sorry to hear you ran into this issue. Let me know how you make out. Also I have a giveaway running for a scan tool at my website www.askthecarexperts.com if your interested. Best of luck!
@@AskTheCarExperts Thanks for the info. Mine doesn't have a spinning ring, it's simpler than the one you showed in the video. Have you had any luck with the 12 point socket method to get it off?
@@briancnc That's great news. You only need a lug remover. I recommend the snap on brand for this type of job. Or you may be able to grab it with a 12 point but depending on how tight the lug it it may just strip out. I have a snap on set that gets tighter as you remove it with a spiral socket. Works great.
@@AskTheCarExperts Thanks, will get both, need a good removal set in the tool box anyways and will give the 12 point trick a go just for curiosity sake.
After that they go in the garbage. Locks are for honest people!
@@AskTheCarExperts 12 point socket (3/4") on the nut got it off after 2 or 3 tries going on deeper each time. I couldn't get the socket off in a vice but not bad for a $5 socket! I also ordered a kit of the spiral lug nut removal sockets. How do you remove those once you get the nut off?
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I’m dealing with a 2013 M3 and I can’t get the AGA Tool behind the locking ring… I’m using an air hammer but I might regret it here soon. Things could get messy and costly
Another method is to use a diamond grinder and grind the ring off. An air hammer also can get the ring off but it can get messy. I have done both before the AGA tool.
Can you confirm of the 19mm twist lock from that bluepoint set fits the lugbolt?
Most BMW's are 17 mm Some X5's where 19 mm
Same problem with 2016 Mercedes e350 the bolt is striped so the key lock is useless to get off
Wheel locks can be such a pain!
Easy use 12 point socket and impact wrench
As long as it does not have the external ring that spins.
now there is better tools in the market
Unfortunately the generic removal tool does not work on the BMW lock due to the spinning ring. The head has to be removed to then access the main head behind it. But they do sell the kit on amazon now for lost keys. You can get a whole set for lower than a new key from BMW.
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Trying to get the broke off lock key out and the socket is stuck now :/
Whack it side to side if you can to try and free it up.
nice were could I get that spline tool
Hi Rafael, You have to purchase the tool from AGA tools.
Hi, what is the size of the spline that you use? Because i have this X3 and and lost the wheel lug key. Thanks
Hello, What style wheel lock do you have? Is it the one that has the ring on the outer edge that spins?
@@AskTheCarExperts BMW F25, yes the outer edge spins
@@team-tan-vlog4095 This tool is sold by AGA tools. One alternative to buying the kit is if you have the box from the wheel lock kit there is a page with the number to order the correct wheel lock from your local dealer. Or most dealers have a back up set they use and they can either remove all the locks so you can switch to lugs or identify the lock number for you to order.
@@AskTheCarExperts thanks for the information and advice 🙏🏻👍🏿
i have same problem my BMW . my mechanic couldn't do it. he give it to another mechanic. he remove two rear wheel lock. front wheel he couldn't remove it. he missed up my rims in front. it look ugly. still couldn't remove. thinking to take to another mechanic i know. i hope he remove it.
My question is can i sand paper the rim that missed up. where wheel lug is
Sorry to hear that David. I know dent wizard will fix cosmetic damage to rims for a good price.
Ugdugadugduga about right. tire shops all have calibrated trigger fingers
LOL YUP Five Ratatats with the impact gun is just about right!
They probably impacted the first security bolt to oblivion and then had nothng to torque other three...
I completely agree!
what do you do when you strip the splines in the wheel bolt because some asshole magically managed to put the wheel bolt on with 900lbs or torque? Thats what my day is starting like tomorrow. Youd think a dealership would have a welder but we dont.. I got 3 of 4 off but, I think the last one they loc-tited on and just to be sure cross threaded it too. lol. What a life.
This is my current situation....smh. How did you end up resolving it?
@@nkereeneyo1063 a drill. Drill it until you're almost through and put a piece of wood against the inside if the rim and hit it as hard as you can until the bolt breaks. Then you can unscrew what's left in the hub by hand and save the rim. Good luck
@@nkereeneyo1063 thing wasn't cross thread or have any loctite on it. It was just in there with an amazing amount of torque.
What year was that Bmw?
This style wheel lock has been used for quite a while and is also currently on new vehicle. This vehicle was around a 2015 BMW.
My Volvo wont let go as yet😢
Oh man! Stupid wheel locks! I have had to drill them out. Takes a long time and some good drill bits.
Over torquing 10 times, we got it!
Just get to the process, no need for several different situations.
LOL
I don't get this logic. Why not just buy replacement socket? Now you will need to do this to another 3 wheels O.o
Because the wheel lock is over torqed it will strip any new replacement socket. Very common for someone to order a new one just to have it fail due to over torque.
@@AskTheCarExperts wd40, heat it up and undo wheel nuts on the opposite side of the anti theft screw and it would certainly go.
Why do BMWs have the dumbest and most preventable issues. No one wants these stock rims and the fact that the end of the stud get corroded to the point of do this is criminal. I always tell my customers to avoid BMWs at all cost
Depends on your area but wheel locks can be a great deterrent. If installed right this problem does not happen.
@@AskTheCarExperts I hear you but it only take one dumb person to really screw something like this up when it should be easy.
@@rafaelmeneses5066 So true! Plenty of no common sense people out there!