Silicon Waterproofing - for fabric and more
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- Опубліковано 8 лип 2018
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This is a DIY method for waterproofing and uses 100% silicone caulk and mineral spirits as the main ingredients. Overall, it is a better way to waterproof most materials than the store bought aerosol silicone waterproofing. It works great for projects ranging from waterproofing a shoe or apron all the way to waterproofing a tent. Another great application of this project is waterproofing a backpack or any other bag. Before applying, test it on a small inconspicuous area to ensure that it works well with our material and does not damage it. Another warning, waterproofing does create fumes so be careful.
Supplies you need:
-Odorless Mineral Spirits: amzn.to/2RX87h0
-100% Silicon Clear Caulk: amzn.to/2EyyWFD (not the same I used, could not find it on Amazon)
-10oz 9x12 ft canvas: amzn.to/2pXEXkW
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Just a suggestion to all. I have found that a dollar store plastic catsup bottle is vary handy, especially for seam sealing. That and a foam brush.
Thanks! That does sound like it would work. Good idea!
Good video. I was looking for a good way to waterproof my wall tent . Thanks a bunch
After 5 years still awesome video thank you
Thanks!!!
You did a great job...I want to waterproof my canvas top on my Jeep...Thank You So Much
I need an update on how this is holding up. Super smart
Nice work my man
Another good video about this using old bed sheets
I've noticed that most seem to put the silicone first - would it not make sense to instead have some mineral spirits already in your container and then squeeze in the silicone? This way the silicone shouldn't start solidifying as quickly.
You can mix everything up in a tub or garbage bag one that won't melt soak it and then hang dry it. 👍 awesome video
Great tip!
how well did this hold up for you?
Mix more min spirits and submerge the tarp! Screw wiping it on! Lol
Great video and great information
Will denatured alcohol work in thinning out the silicon? We don't have mineral spirits, white spirits, or naptha available in my country.
how long does it last is the real question
thanks
Thank you for a great imformative and simply explained. Cape Town
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Thanks!
How long will the effect last?
My dad still has an old siliconized cloth that says to use carbon tetrachloride to remove the surface oils. Tells you how old that is.
Hey great video, could you please update it with the ratio, thanks so much!
Another woman's vid said 1 part silicone to 4.5 mineral spirits
Thanks for sharing ,I have a question could we use a brush instead of squeegee for the weak fabrics.?
It should work, though the brush will need to be thrown out as it bristles will be coated with silicone and won't hold anything.
What sort of texture does the resulting fabric have? Does it work on stretchier fabrics? I’m trying to replicate a leathery dragon wing for a costume and am curious if this is a good option. Thanks!
It will have a sort of rubbery texture if you have a higher silicone content, otherwise, it will feel slightly oily but have almost the same texture as before. It may have some stretch with the fabric but I’ve never tried this.
can we make a SilPoly with this?
Wouldn't it work better if you just sprayed on the fabric?... Just thinking
Why not put it in a spray bottle
I want to waterproof curtains for my front porch. Can this be mixed in a basin and then dunk/soak the curtains to hang dry?
If you dunk and soak it, chances are the waterproofing will be spotty.
can you dilute the silicone more for a brush on or soaker mix?
In theory that should work, but you would need extra coats. The mixture will also destroy whatever you use to apply it as it will be covered with silicone as well. In short, I wouldn’t try it with an expensive brush as paint will not adhere to the brush for an application in future.
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what kind of wax did you use for the previous experiment ?
thanx for sharing!
Paraffin wax.
Do you know if the solvent would damage synthetic fabrics? (nylon, polyester etc)
Best way is to test on a scrap piece of the material. One way I have dealt with that myself is to Google the specific fiber and see if mineral spirits damages it.
Would this work on a pair of m65 field pants and a m65 field jacket that are both 50/50Nylon cotton
I don't know how nylon will hold up to mineral spirits... will want to give that a try on a sample piece first. If you give it a try, let us know the results!
We're Waterproofing a test. Can we apply this onto a canvas that has paint on it?
I have not tried this. Probably will not work right as the paint will be damaged by the mineral spirits. You should at least try it on a sample of painted canvas... just not on anything important ;-).
I have a question. Could I use this in a Hudson pump sprayer and apply on the shingles on my roof. Not looking for a long time solution but something for this rain season as I do have multiple leaks and can’t afford to replace the roof this year.
I would say no... It's too thin and I don't think it would adhere well.
I think you could definitely do it. I'd clean your roof first.
Use Styrofoam mixed with gasoline. U get a glue. It works great but not for permanently.
I don't know if you'll see this, but I have a question: so I know that using oil to waterproof things increases the risk of fire. Does silicone have that problem?
It would have an issue until the mineral spirits gasses off that was used as a carrier for the silicone. After that I would say (not an expert in this) that it wouldn't be any more flammable than regular canvas. I believe silicone in of itself to be flame resistant... Though I don't think this reduces the chance of the canvas catching fire... Hope this helps! I have reached these opinions from talk to people and general info on silicone.
If you're going to use the whole tube, it's faster to just cut off the top of the tube of caulk with a utility knife.
Good tip! That would speed up the process. It just needs to be used fast enough so it does not begin to harden before application.
@@wamindustries kinda hard to squirter it in the high quality bottle though..lol
Do you have the ratio information for the two chemicals? "Making it runny" is one thing, and will be affected by the weather, but what is the rough ratio?
About two to one... mineral spirits to silicon. It should be the consistency of maple syrup. The mineral spirits just thins the silicone enough to apply it and then evaporates after application.
Is this ratio by weight or consistency?
Is there a more natural alternative to mineral spirits?
Naptha can also used. Is it more natural? Maybe PGA would but silicone is far from natural and mineral spirits will evaporate quickly.
Do you think this would work for clothes?
It probably would work, but it may affect the color and texture of the fabric. You will want to test it on a small part of the fabric first that can't be seen. Depending on the fabric and how much waterproofing you apply it may make it feel rubbery. If you go the opposite direction and apply to thin of a coating there will be sections that leak. Semi porous fabrics would work better than a really tight weave (too loose of a weave and it will take to much waterproofing to work, that's why a canvas like material works so well) . If your not careful when mixing and applying it could result in splotches. Because of all the seams you might want to do a thinner mixture and apply multiple coats. Hope this helps.
how many milliliter of mineral spirit for 1 tube of silicon caulk?
That's a really good question, unfortunately I do not know the answer. I just did it in small batches until the project was done. Doing a large batch would probably make things easier and faster.
@MrCreate
Is this waterproof enough to make a collapsible bucket/tub, or is it only good for repelling water?
In theory it should work, you probably would need a higher concentration of silicon in the mixture and may need to do multiple coats. Once you did this, the fabric would have a rubbery feel. I have not attempted this, but as i said earlier it should work in theory. The seams will have a higher chance of leaking so pay attention to them especially. If you give this a try, please let us all know how it works!
@MrCreate
Thanks! I'm not worried about a rubbery feel, as long as it's watertight and collapsible :)
@@eyesofthecervino3366 hi, have you tried it? Never tought that idea, but it could be really good if it works. Thanks anyway
@@chemawatersa377
I have not :(
Thank you for reminding me, though -- I have some sewing-type projects planned as part of my garden this year (boy, does that look weird when I type it out), so maybe I can work it in then.
@@eyesofthecervino3366 thanks buddy! hope it works at least for enought time!
Does it not brake easily once fabric is expose to sunlight?
The silicon on my canvas tarps have been exposed to sunlight for a few separate weekends, it has stayed flexible and has not cracked.
Will this "gas out". I have want to proof my kit bag but am concerned about flammability for aircraft travel.
It does seem to loose the mineral spirits smell. It still has a slight oily feel, but I think that is the silicone that is left in the material.
@@wamindustries thanks for getting back. Good to know the smell goes!
How well does this treatment do against steam
Interesting question, I've never tried that. Depending on how hot, my guess it might do fine as it's silicone that's left on/in the fabric... Only suggestion is to try a sample piece. If you give it a try please let us know the results!
This mixture wouldn’t work on several surfaces !… For example on some paints after evaporation of the solvent the silicones are easily removed by peeling since it’s well known that they don’t glue on any material !…
Nice. Let me ask u something. Can we use silicon sealent as a glue for sticking clothes together. Kindly please reply
Great question, I don’t think it would work very well. In my experience the holding bond between the two fabrics would be too weak.
@@wamindustries thank u
USE THE SILICONE UNDILUTED, PRESSED BETWEEN TWO FABRIC LAYERS, once cured,PROVIDES A PERMANENT CONNECTION....USE PINS ,if necessary TO HOLD LAYERS TOGETHER UNTILL SILICONE IS SET INTO CURE...PULL PINS BEFORE CURE IS TOTALLY COMPLETE....
Any idea how long a canvas like this would last thru 4 seasons of weather??
I'm not sure... It depends really on how you take care of it... I cut it's life short when I got bleach on it. I would expect it to last longer than many of the wax related waterproofing options or the waterproofing in the standard options at most box stores
@wamindustries thank you. Looking at alternative ways to cover a shelterlogic & came across this technique. Either way helpful to know for camping purposes!
Yes, but is it fire proof?
That I have never tried. I would say most likely no... It would probably require a thick coating of silicone... Though this is a guess on my part. If you do any experiment, please let us know in the comments your results... We would love to know!!!!
It's very hard to get both a waterproof substance that ALSO makes something fireproof. For DIY it's a multistep process. For instance, this method looks MORE fireproof than using paraffin wax base with linseed oil, but to truly fireproof it you'll want to soak it in a borax-boric acid solution (1 cup of borax + 1 cup of boric acid + 1 gallon of water)
Wash it in this to help fireproof it BEFORE you coat the fibers of the cloth in a waterproofing agent. THEN waterproof it so even if the flame gets past your waterproofing agent, it has nothing to burn because you've got an extra layer of protection.
A bed sheet works good to.
How long will the mixture last? Please reply as I'm about to make a waterproofing product
Does this get sticky in hot weather?? Also I wonder if you could use latex caulk???
No it doesn't get sticky, if anything it has a slight oily or rubber feel to it. I would not use latex, it will probably crack with time.
Latex hates sunlight.
I want to apply this to 100% cotton dog collars. Do you know if the waterproofing solution will crack, kind of like wax does, when I attach the hardware to the collar?
It doesn’t seem to crack... at least in my application it hasn’t.
Can I use this mixture on car paint for waterproofing ?
Norten Joseph I I have not tried that, but it seems risky. It doesn’t seem like it would work well.
@@wamindustries Ah ok
Will this work if submerged in water for prolonged periods?
Good question, I have not tried that yet. If you give it a try please let us all know.
Well, I did try this already but just the silicone, no spirits, it molded.
And the fabric was cotton.
Does silicon work without the mineral spirits? (Sorry if this has already been asked.)
Thanks for asking Lesley! It might, but it would be very thick and would not spread well or get absorbed into the fabric. In short it won't work as well. You could experiment with different ratios to create a thicker consistency if that's what you are looking for. Have fun!
Yes it does. I accidentally discovered this. I use silicone caulk for work and one day, after I tooled it with my finger, I did not have a rag with me to wipe the excess on. So I wiped into my pant leg, spreading it out to keep it from lumping. To my surprise, after multiple washings, it's still there and still waterproof. It's basically infused into the fabric of my pants, and it shows no signs of coming off.
The problem with doing a large area would be doing it FAST, because un-thinned silicone caulk skins over within a minute or so.
@Jonathan Brett thats greta to hear for me, im looking to make water proof jeans for my motorcycle
It’s in the video’s title, but is it really waterproof or water resistant?
Can this go underwater and stay dry?
Can you wash them or what happens after that
You can try white vinegar or dawn dish soap. Do not use anything harsh like bleach as that will ruin it.
The compound is called SILICONE
SiliCON is pure sand.
My brother did quite a lot of this about 40 years ago. He mixed it just like in this video but shot it thru a paint gun. I think that paint gun would would give a lot more even coverage.
I think mixing that in any kind of beverage bottle could be a MAJOR safety no no. Especially an unlabeled beverage bottle.
Nah. Silicon is mostly used for blocking out stuff mainly water you don't wanna risk blocking your paint gun spray.
Taking the label off is what i do to tell me not to drink the liquid inside very safe
@@turtleman190 Yeah, I agree that is normally enough. Trouble comes from things like a Coca-Cola bottle with it's iconic shape.
@@munnumkhalid it works fine. Rinse it after like you do after painting 🤷
This is a great video. What you are doing here leads the imagination to interesting places. Why do you think out the silicone caulk with mineral spirits? Is it that difficult to spread into a thin layer with the squeegee?
Thanks! The silicone needs to be thinned with mineral spirits so that it soaks into the material.... otherwise the Silicon would just sit on the surface. Just a tip, it is generally better to put more than less in your fabric. The only problem with putting more on is that it can feel rubbery. To get the right balance I went through Test Section first.
I wonder if you could melt that glob down and reuse it!
Is there alternative to mineral spirit?
Naptha
May I try it on terracotta pots for making them waterproof? Plz reply ..😊
Creative application! I don't know if it would work as it might not be able to soak in well enough. If you want to give it a try, you will need to dilute it with mineral spirits until its supper thin and watery. You would also need to do multiple coats... I have never tried this, so I am only guessing. If you give it a try, I would test it on a spare pot first. Let us know how it goes!
@@wamindustries Thanks for replying..😊
Well I can try it applying a thin layer first to get the watery base get absorbed more, and then, as you suggested, multiple of thicker layers..
Wish me good luck, ha ha..
And, I will post whatever the outcome be!!😉
Can IPA be used instead of mineral spirits?
Good question!!! I don't have first hand experience using ipa with silicone caulk, but it looks like it actually weakens the silicone and keeps it from curing. Based on my research I would say don't use it... If you test it, let us know how it works out.
Will it be ok on my concrete pond?
I have not tried it on concrete... only suggestion is to try it on a sacrificial piece of concrete. Let us know the results and it might helps someone else.
Is it air tight thanks
I haven't tested that, but if applied right and thick enough I would theorize it could be air tight.
If you combine it with mineral spirit, it Will make it more easily to burn. It doesnt? ( I just though it, can you explain it to us?).
The mineral spirits acts sort of like a carrier. It thins the silicone so it can be applied and most of it evaporates over time. This method is not designed to be fire proof... And I have not conducted any tests regarding fire with it.
Can I use it on denim?
I have not tried it on denim... It will have a slight oily feel. I would try it on some scrap material first to see if you like the feel, especially if your hoping to use it on clothing. If you just worried about repelling water, this should work great.
What does it smell like once dried?
Mine just smells like dirt fabric as I have gotten dirt and stuff on it over the yrs. The mineral spirits do eventually all gas off given the opportunity.
Can I use this for shoes?
You probably could, though it would depend on the material your shoes are made of. I don't think it would work well on a leather or fake leather surface, but should work for a canvas shoe. Your shoe will not be very breathable after waterproofing as this waterproofing does not breath well
Could you use this to water proof your pond? and how long would it last?
Water proof your pond liner, you mean? What do you mean?
Can I do this on my clothes
Personally I wouldn't suggest it. It wouldn't breath and I would guess that it would be uncomfortable.
Why not use a pump sprayer?
So I just used a hand pump sprayer to do this. So yeah it didn't "spray" but rather more like a stream. The first batch was a bit too thick and the 2nd batch sprayed a bit more but was a bit too thin. So much for using that pump sprayer as my camp shower. haha. But I'm trying to cover up this nasty PVC toxic fumes off gassing from a China tent.
I have reg silicone 100 percent pure..how can silicone caulking be 100 percent and get hard?
My caulk gets hard all the time. I thought that was normal.
Awesome
Ratio doesn't matter much. The mineral spirits will evaporate leaving behind the silicon. Think of it this way, your dissolving the silicon to make it spreadable, it's only the vehicle to deposit the silicon. Some brevity and public speaking practice would make this go by better.
Thank you for your explanation
RATIO MATTERS....THE SILICONE WILL STIFFEN THE FABRIC MORE AS MORE SILICONE IS ADDED TO YOUR MIXTURE....USE LESS SILICONE TO AVOID CRACKING TEARS WHENEVER FOLDING & UNFOLDING OR PACKAGING AND UNPACKING IS THE PLANNED PROCEDURE....GOOD LUCK OR EXPERIMENT FIRST....
@@paulcrocker818Exactly.
Great video, but currently mineral spirits are considered toxic in SoCal so I don't really know what to use. Do you have an idea for a substitute?
Go across the border to purchase and snuggle it in.... Gavin SUCKS!!!!
Just don't be scared..
Naptha
USE A THICKLY HAIRED PAINT ROLLER AND DON'T DRINK OR SWIM IN THE GOO WITHOUT A LICENSED, CA APPROVED LIFE GUARD....DON'T BREATH IN A OPEN FLAME....OR, NOTICE THAT PETROLEUM DISTILLATES ARE ALWAYS FLAMMABLE.....
Everything is toxic in California or so the liberals think
that mineral spirit is a big problem.. can i use denatured alcohol?? or paint thinner??
Hi Rey, good question. Your best option is oderless mineral spirits. Almost every hardware store sells it whether it's a Do It Best, ACE, or True Value. Home depot, Lowe's, and Manards sell it as well. You are right there are other products which will thin silicone, but you need to consider their own unique strengths and weaknesses. As always, test your mixture first on an unimportant test piece of material. Some thinners will breakdown different fibers or will produces a really strong oder. I can't suggest other thinners as i have only used mineral spirits. If you give some new mixture a try, please let all of use know how it went.
@@wamindustries ill try to look on more hardware store... most of the store ive been dont have mineral spirits...
@@wamindustries coz this waterproofing technique would really come in handy for the likes of me who rides even when its raining
@@itsjustme5022 Take gasoline if you do not mind some smell its the same class of molecules. Otherwise, ethanol should work but you will need more of it than gasoline due to it being partially polar.
paint thinner IS mineral spirits
how long will it last ?????????????
It really depends on a lot of factors so it would be hard to give an accurate guess. Some factors which would affect the life span include method of application, type and composition of the fabric, and the exposure to outside elements. Unfortunately I am unable to give a better answer.
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Lol, I'm so imature
is that safe near an open flame or wood stove?
I would say it's still flammable as a fabric. To the best of my knowledge, it will gas off until it's just silicone and canvas. While the silicone may not be flammable, the canvas is. Until it fully gases off, it will be quite flammable.
Why not use a spray bottle to apply it then a brush to dab everywhere?
What is the ratio? We all know the materials but you never mention amounts ratios
That is the question of the century (unfortunately I didn't think to measure a ratio as I was just going by eye)... The ratio is dependent on your fabric. The tighter the weave the thinner the mixture For the canvas I was using, I was aiming for consistency similar to maple syrup.
what about a polyester flag? would it work?
It should, but you should test your solvent on the polyester first and in a small section. If it eats that material it's a no-go.
Hi, can you water proof satin fabric?
I do not know... I would guess it would work being it often has a tight weave... May just have to apply multiple thin coats
😂somebody's girl is a squirter
Can I use this to make a canvas boat
Good question! I have not tried it, but I have thought some about it. I think it would work given the right amount of coats and getting enough silicone soaked into the canvas. You could test on a small scale first and let us know here if it works! Best of luck!
I would think you would have a better chance of a canvas boat using marine grade or aquarium silicone mixed with mineral spirit's...just my opinion
@@robertjenkins5440 "100% Silicone" is 100% silicone. It shouldn't matter.
what will be age of this water proffing process
respected sir
Great question! Because there are so many things that could affect the life span of waterproofing, I really could not give an accurate estimate. General things that could harm this waterproofing include excess exposure to sunlight, harsh chemicals and detergents, and abrasion. All of these will also shorten the life span of conventional waterproofing as well.
@@wamindustries
Thanks for your regarding
i am from Pakistan
What's the ratio of mineral spirits to silicone?
Add caulk until it’s a milky cloud of silicone, “as thick as maple syrup”
Can I waterproof my t-shirt?
Technically yes... would I want to... probably no. It would not breath at all and would be like having a shirt made out of a plastic bag.
What is "does not last so long" mean? And what does "lasts much longer" mean?
Isn’t there a Mineral Spirits to Silicone ratio that can be measured instead of tedious ‘winging it’ ?
After all - All mineral spirits is mineral spirits & 100% silicone is 100 % silicone.
On could create a ratio, though the ratio would need to reflect how tight the weave of the fabric is and the material it's made out of. More silicone is needed for looser weaves. The mineral spirits evaporates over time... It's just acting as the carrier of the silicone.
Mix Ratio missing. Done by eye, which means every batch will be different and slow to make. Save yourself 7 minutes as this most essential info is absent.
is it just me........
God bless
Good video but canvas is already waterproof
On part of the canvas I had tried a type of paraffin wax waterproofing... did not work. So tried the silicone.
Real silicone 300 per gallon..
You should be using silicone water guard, which still allows the material to breathe, that's the downside of using is silicone, because it makes it to where the material can't breathe.
What is silicone water guard?
Mine been liquid for ten years or better..
What do you mean, exactly? Thanks.
why dont you give some precision to what you are doing? measure those quantities and give us the exact proportions
You should have done a gallon version of this for most people....
Have you ever gotten Mineral Spirits on your skin? I did the Boiled Linseed Oil experiment. Smelled! And burned my skin even after being dry... Added weight to the garment too... Next trick, Coleman Fuel plus silicon, has Naptha situation. Complete evaporation...
The mineral spirits should evaporate given enough time. The mineral spirits is not providing the waterproofing but just thins the silicone so it can be applied. As a result once a silicone is in place you could rinse off it to remove mineral spirits residue. I haven't had to do this for my application, but I think in theory that should work.
Use a large electrical wire-nut on the caulk tube to keep it from hardening. Works better than a nail
Hmmm... I have never tried that!! Sounds like that works great.
Why don’t you just buy Sunbrella Rain fabric and save yourself the work?
Great question! I needed canvas for a project that needed to look period correct for the 1940s... and it also needed to be canvas.