How to anti-seize wheel nuts without over-cranking the hi-tensile studs | Auto Expert John Cadogan

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    A lot of people warn against lubricating wheel nuts (and wheel studs) but they really just don't understand hi-tensile bolts and how they work. If you do, one simple adjustment to the torque spec can make it perfectly safe to lubricate wheel nuts - as well as preventing corrosion, making roadside repairs significantly more straightforward.
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  • @ginog5037
    @ginog5037 4 роки тому +34

    What's just as important is a lite film of anti seize on the hub, so the rim doesn't fuse itself to the hub.

    • @jarsky
      @jarsky 4 роки тому +3

      Yup thats exactly what I do, just a little swipe of copper antisieze between each of the studs

    • @Hubjeep
      @Hubjeep 3 роки тому +3

      Or a quick spray of Fluid Flim!!! Great stuff I only recently discovered. Sprays like oil, stays like grease.

    • @kunschner
      @kunschner 2 роки тому +1

      My A4's Bentley Manual instructs you to use polycarbamide grease. I've used anti seize for years though.

  • @tectorama
    @tectorama 4 роки тому +47

    Something you did touch on, but is worth mentioning to newbies.
    When removing a wheel, slacken the nuts off before jacking the car up.
    Then do a final tighten when back on the ground. If using a wrench that is.

    • @Yorkiepoocharlie
      @Yorkiepoocharlie 4 роки тому +4

      Most manufactures would loosen and tighten wheels off the ground. That way the tapers mate properly. Maybe torque to spec when on the ground.

    • @tlpNZ
      @tlpNZ 4 роки тому +9

      @@Yorkiepoocharlie Good luck with that all that will happen if it's a wheel without a brake. It will just spin when you try to undo the nuts/bolts. And if it does have a brake (like the hand brake) that's often not strong enough to stop the wheel rotating.
      The reason that tyre fitters can do if off the ground is they use a rattle gun.

    • @andrew_koala2974
      @andrew_koala2974 4 роки тому

      When using a wrench, not IF using a wrench.
      Deduct 2 points from your Knowledge of English.
      Your score 8 out of 10.

    • @droceretik
      @droceretik 4 роки тому +4

      @@andrew_koala2974 Is it possible to use a rattle gun at home? Then there is a choice between a conventional wrench and a rattle gun so "if" is correct English.

    • @Beer_Dad1975
      @Beer_Dad1975 4 роки тому

      Another good reason to have a impact wrench, doesn't matter if the wheel is in the air already.

  • @RobertSmith-di5ll
    @RobertSmith-di5ll 4 роки тому +10

    perfection as usual - who would think changing a wheel could be so detailed and need 30 mins

  • @Motumatai3
    @Motumatai3 4 роки тому +30

    Had a big pot of that copper cote for nigh on 40 years. Lost count of the number of times I have praised the stuff when undoing something I did up a decade earlier. Its the Ming mole of lubes;)

  • @rajkirannatarajan9276
    @rajkirannatarajan9276 4 роки тому +15

    I highly recommend everyone who doesn’t know how to change a spare tire read their car’s manual and try it out in their garage.
    It will give you an idea for the scope of the task and prepare you mentally for the time when you get a flat.

    • @tectorama
      @tectorama 4 роки тому +1

      Problem now is, a lot of cars (especially hybrids, don't come with a spare wheel.

  • @davidblack5285
    @davidblack5285 4 роки тому +34

    Another classic (in the refinery only) use for Copper Coat is to apply it under the door handle of your co-workers work vehicle.

    • @bostedtap8399
      @bostedtap8399 4 роки тому +4

      Engineers Blue (Micrometer or Hi-Spot Blue), is equally effective. 👍

    • @davidblack5285
      @davidblack5285 4 роки тому

      Bosted Tap “Down There”

    • @greenriver520
      @greenriver520 4 роки тому +4

      I don't think there is a vice in any workshop that hasn't had old blue on the handle.

    • @paulparoma
      @paulparoma 4 роки тому +6

      What if you don't have co-workers? Will your neighbor's car do then?

    • @bostedtap8399
      @bostedtap8399 4 роки тому

      @@paulparoma Random neighbours only I assume?.lol.

  • @brianhind6149
    @brianhind6149 3 роки тому +4

    Sir: May I compliment you on an excellent, informative video. I watch all your videos here in western Canada & you never fail to bring a smile to face. You do your viewers a great favour with your ACCURATE & timely advice, & the instructions for handling a wheel & its fasteners was superb. A simple thing for those of us who understand, but fraught with opportunity for disaster for the unknowing. Now that I have reached 80 years of age, I have an edge over those who are under 21 , because they already know everything, & you will not be amazed to learn that I learn things from your videos that I DID NOT know ! Obviously my late father was correct when he proclaimed that I did not possess sufficient brains to learn how to pound sand ! Thank you Sir!,.....& Happy New Year to you from the wind swept hinterlands of western Alberta, Canada.

  • @johnpatin9781
    @johnpatin9781 4 роки тому +5

    Excellent video John. I’ve been using copper anti-sneeze for over 40 years on my wheel studs and hub faces. (Aluminum anti-seize if it touches Al wheels.) I’ve had numerous arguments with mechanics and “Wheel Techs” about the use. Thanks for the confirmation. The rest of your info is “spot on” also.

  • @steveschilling5966
    @steveschilling5966 2 роки тому +1

    I agree I have been a truck mechanic for 40 years always used never seize just adjusted my torque never lost a wheel or a lug nut ever,

  • @mark64tanner
    @mark64tanner 4 роки тому +26

    Thanks John,
    Kinda stuff I was looking for to teach my son (getting close to driving age if he's ever allowed to go get his L plates).
    Nice to be able to say. "hey watch this on UA-cam then we'll go do it on our cars out front" Makes him feel he has some prior knowledge and can have input into the process (especially if you ask what's the next step) instead of just Dad saying "Let me show you how to do this"
    These basics videos are priceless mate.
    Thanks again.
    PS, Don't exclude the Ming Molls, helps most Teen boy's I know pay attention to be sure they don't miss any Pearls of Wisdom passed down from a highly respected source ;)
    Cheers.
    I hear and I forget. I see and I remember. I do and I understand.

    • @garfieldsmith332
      @garfieldsmith332 4 роки тому +3

      I now have visions of the Ming Molls tightening my nuts.

    • @buffuniballer
      @buffuniballer 4 роки тому +8

      Did this some 10 years ago with my two oldest and the neighbor boy as his dad was deployed to Afghanistan.
      Our 2002 Camry needed a tire rotation and had a full sized spare. I showed them with the first tire, and each of them, the two boys and my oldest daughter, took a turn with a tire as part of the rotation.
      I"ve also had them under the hood checking oil, coolant, PS fluid and battery terminals.
      They were also given a demonstration of how to connect booster cables and got a chance to do so themselves.
      I also put all of my kids in a stick shift car before they got to drive an automatic, so they knew how that works.
      They all drive an automatic, but each has been exposed to the workings of a manual transmission with a real live 3rd pedal clutch.

    • @studley2436
      @studley2436 4 роки тому +3

      Get my vote for Father of the Year

  • @jimclark6978
    @jimclark6978 3 роки тому +2

    John, the number of times I've been criticized for using copper grease on wheel nuts, thanks for the confirmation of my views. I also add a smear to the hub which prevents the alloy wheel binding.

  • @oby-1607
    @oby-1607 Рік тому

    I just did a summer tire changeover on my GMC Safari and the wheel nuts wouldn't come off even with the rattle gun. Finally after hammering and using a breaker bar with an extension the rust finally let go. What a job that would have been impossible on the side of the road. With the new tires on, the wheel studs got a partial on one side coating of zinc anti-seize and the nuts were torqued on. The centre flange what centres the wheel is also coated. I use zinc as it is a sacrificial metal that will over time give up to the harder metals of the wheel components. Now I don't have to worry about changing a flat if necessary.
    Oh, for the doubters, i have been doing this for decades with no problems. The van was a recent purchase and the previous owner had not done this preventative measure.

  • @davidstewart3868
    @davidstewart3868 4 роки тому +4

    Great advice! Living in America’s “rust belt” a wire brush, a can of brake clean, never seize, a sledgehammer and a torque wrench are mandatory for changing wheels and maintenance.

  • @stevep8773
    @stevep8773 4 роки тому +3

    Living in Canada many years and now in NE 'Murica, my vehicles see a lot of salted roads in winter. I follow this procedure when switching from summer to winter wheels, but I also find it helpful (since the wheels are off completely) to smear a light coating of anti-seize on the face of the hub and around the centre ring. Otherwise, the wheels will sometimes stick on the hub. And no one needs to be pounding on a stuck wheel when the car is balanced on a flimsy jack at the side of the road. If this does happen, I'm sure everyone knows the trick of loosening the lug nuts just half a turn, dropping the car off the jack and then rocking it back an forth a few times with a sharp application of brakes

  • @Ramjet257
    @Ramjet257 4 роки тому +1

    Thanks John, vindication for what I have been doing for years. Will recommend to my sons, they are always prepared to listen to someone else !!

  • @letsseeif
    @letsseeif 4 роки тому +5

    John. As you know, leverage is everything. Archimedes said it "Give me a lever and a fulcrum on which to put it, and i will lift the World." It applies to -------> you name it.

  • @vurgelautosport
    @vurgelautosport 4 роки тому +27

    Once upon a time. When mechanics were more than lube techs and parts fitters..
    This was common place at every service... I do it though as it not only saves the customer the potential bother, but potentially makes my life easier for the same reason.

    • @MongooseTacticool
      @MongooseTacticool 4 роки тому +8

      Do it for the next guy, as that might be you sorta thing.

    • @vurgelautosport
      @vurgelautosport 4 роки тому

      @ChrisHallett83 no licence required for mechanics man. Not in Melbourne atleast.

    • @vurgelautosport
      @vurgelautosport 4 роки тому +1

      @@iamasmurf1122 i know how you feel. I run a small shop myself and see it every day. Unfortunately the lack of regulation means there are people doing shit work for peanuts. And ultimately its the customer, who often knows no better than cheaper is better for their immediate concerns that enables it to happen too.

  • @mikewasowski1411
    @mikewasowski1411 4 роки тому

    One of your best vids to date. Really enjoyed this one

  • @munsters2
    @munsters2 3 роки тому +2

    Interesting and humorous.
    The big problem comes after you have applied the anti seize and then the vehicle goes to a mechanic. He will use the rattle gun to tighten it to 100 or more instead of the lower torque which is recommended.

  • @BatesonBen
    @BatesonBen 4 роки тому +3

    Lol, had to do a roadside tyre change on Saturday, in the middle of nowhere, with exactly the same issue. I was jumping on the wrench to get the nuts off. Great vid mate, Rattle gun me up

  • @LordandGodofYouTube
    @LordandGodofYouTube 4 роки тому +8

    I'm a machinist and I agree with everything you just said. I would back off my torque wrench between uses though. Where's the MALS hat John? Put the campaign on hold due to the apocalypse?

  • @cassanth
    @cassanth 4 роки тому +8

    With roadside assistance, I have gone with RAA as their membership is one the person, not the car. Most policies are registered to a vehicle meaning that you only have coverage when driving that car. But with it being on the person, you are covered regardless of the car you are driving. Very handy when you have several classic vehicles at home as well as the daily drivers. 2 memberships in our household instead of the 4 we would need with most other policies.

    • @BryanTorok
      @BryanTorok 2 роки тому

      AAA in the USA goes with the person, regardless of which car they are driving and even if they are a passenger in a friend's car.

  • @jackejr74
    @jackejr74 4 роки тому

    John, I really like your videos and your "attitude" in your wording!!! LOL I ALWAYS put a "liitle" motor oil (a drop or two) on my vehicles' lug nuts and "other miscellaneous screws, bolts, nuts.... And in maintenance of my compliance with my Lifelong 60+ years, Shade Tree Mechanic's Certification, I NEVER USED A Torque Wrench on any nut, bolt, screw or whatever and NEVER had a problem with nuts or bolts being too loose or too tight. One of the major subjects in my pursuit of my Shade Tree Mechanic's Certificate was pre-calibrating your arms for tightening nuts and bolts (which of course I almost failed)!!! LOL A touch of never seize a'int gonna hurt...... Please keep up your GREAT videos!!!!!!!

  • @rastusodanga
    @rastusodanga 4 роки тому +1

    That was a great explanation for me. I often wondered about lubricated torque spec vs dry torque spec. Thanks.

  • @pacman5590
    @pacman5590 3 роки тому

    Fascinating watch, even when only talking of nuts & bolts! Good job Sir!

  • @daveg872
    @daveg872 4 роки тому

    John, it's fun when you're ranting about criminal behavior or an injustice, but my favorite blogs of yours are when you are sharing tool and technical knowledge. You do it well and I always learn something useful.

  • @Kris_M
    @Kris_M 4 роки тому +22

    Note: switch to ceramic grease, as this is recommended by most car and brake manufacturers and doesn't cause electrochemical corrosion on alu parts.
    Also apply it to the outside of the centering ring or the respective mating surface on the wheel, makes sure the wheel doesn't get stuck on that.

    • @virgomonkey68
      @virgomonkey68 4 роки тому

      Kris M so the bendix brake lube... blue in colour could be used?. Supper high temp and doesn’t melt and spread...supposed its ok as used on the slide pins?

    • @ShainAndrews
      @ShainAndrews 4 роки тому +1

      @@virgomonkey68 3M silicone paste works better than any of these super special brake grease compositions. www.3m.com/3M/en_US/company-us/all-3m-products/~/3M-Silicone-Paste/?N=5002385+3293194053&rt=rud

    • @Slazmoservicing4209
      @Slazmoservicing4209 4 роки тому +2

      Henkel Nickle Anti Seize is where its at... We used it for dissimilar metal applications in site with 256kva high voltage substations with buzz bars and the like - was mandatory to be used everywhere... Great expensive stuff.

    • @ShainAndrews
      @ShainAndrews 4 роки тому

      @@Slazmoservicing4209 Different application, different environment.

    • @Kris_M
      @Kris_M 4 роки тому +4

      @@virgomonkey68 If the slide pins are bushed in rubber, always use silicone grease for them.

  • @cs_devel
    @cs_devel 3 роки тому

    Many thumbs up for lubricate the threads. I did it every time and never had trouble changing the wheels for seasonal use.

  • @maccasmith9594
    @maccasmith9594 4 роки тому

    Thank you John. This is the type of video you are very good at!

  • @stevegoodwin5841
    @stevegoodwin5841 2 роки тому +1

    Been using anti seize for years with recommended torque reduction of 30% from oem specs. Cheers!

  • @thomasarcher4792
    @thomasarcher4792 2 роки тому

    Absolutely Brilliant and Most Entertaining!

  • @michaelredmond3540
    @michaelredmond3540 4 роки тому +4

    The use of “pericynthian”is very interesting. I had to look that up. A rather lovely classical Greece reference, thank you.

  • @Beer_Dad1975
    @Beer_Dad1975 4 роки тому +2

    My dad taught me to use copper grease on wheel nuts and spark plug threads & nock a bit off the torque specs over 30 years ago, and yes I have had the same pot for over 20 years now and it looks like it'll last another 20 without emptying. Great stuff!

  • @brucebeauvais1324
    @brucebeauvais1324 3 роки тому

    Living in snow country in the U.S., I'm changing tires twice a year. WInter tires on, Winter tires off. I've always applied anti-seize to the wheel nuts ( or bolts). Someone else noted the wisdom of applying it around the center hub where the wheel centers. I'd never thought about using it on the nut/bolt face- I'll need to remember to do that.
    The availability of inexpensive Chinese tools has allowed me to carry an 18" breaker bar and correct socket in each car. Watch the sales and it can be done for under $20. It's a lot more secure than whatever the OEM wrench is. Again watch the sales and a Harbor Freight torque wrench can be had for $10. I do know someone who purchased one for each car. A few years ago, one of the car buff magazines tested them and they are accurate enough. I don't know that I'd assemble an engine with one but for wheel changes,just fine.
    The one item he did forget to mention was to recheck the torque of the nuts/bolts after driving a few miles. They can loosen up and a recheck can prevent some costly damage.

  • @leftatedsa
    @leftatedsa 4 роки тому

    Great video for those who want to give their cars that extra TLC and learn a few logical steps on how to make life easier on the road. I picked these methods up in the early 1970 when I lived with older 4x4s of that era. A touch of grease on the studs and nuts and any other sensitive bits that were regularly submerged during river crossings was normal practice. Just like greasing all the joints regularly to expel residue water. My personal favourite a modification to lever off the brake drums for cleaning. I drilled and tapped two diagonally opposed holes in the drum and used two 3/8" bolts in equal turns to lever off the drum which as Murphy's Law would have it always froze to the axle flange. This made the job quick and easy. Sand and dirt could be quickly removed, brake shoes and springs checked and pistons inspected for leaks. A smidgen of grease was always applied before reassembly.

  • @MeppyMan
    @MeppyMan 4 роки тому

    My stupid care doesn’t have a spare but I still watched this to learn some new stuff. Thanks.

  • @tcpnetworks
    @tcpnetworks 4 роки тому

    Awesome work, John.

  • @williamfry6087
    @williamfry6087 2 роки тому

    You are the Wizard of nuts and bolts, and mirth This makes so much sense to me. Thank you.

  • @muzzthegreat
    @muzzthegreat 4 роки тому

    Bloody Perfect! Spoken like a true Engineer, and Fitted like a True Fitter!
    Here's how I had a bolt tension problem once: Doing a Job - Out of stock of the specified bolt: M10 4.6 in a specific head.
    No Worries, rang-around and found some 8.8s, and additionally this job was Galv not zinc-plate - But she'll be right, right?
    We rattled-up the 8.8s in the usual manner . . . and over time they all came loose.
    The bolts are subject to a lot of weird forces and possibly movement, and M10 was overstrength for the stresses they normally experienced.
    The engineers opinion was that the design relied-upon the 4.6s stretching and largely seizing-up; also Galv behaves quite a bit different to Zinc.
    There was way too-little tension on the 8.8s and they just came-loose : we had to go back and add a lot of tension with Nylocs.

  • @steved2623
    @steved2623 4 роки тому

    Thanks John that was very informative.

  • @andrew89927
    @andrew89927 4 роки тому

    Great informative video John. Would love you to get the tools out more often.

  • @terencehawkes3933
    @terencehawkes3933 3 роки тому

    Thanks John quite useful. Especially the correct way to use anti seize with corrected torque.

  • @MrWilliam.Stewart
    @MrWilliam.Stewart 4 роки тому

    Again, good advise from the torquo expert.

  • @Alexagrigorieff
    @Alexagrigorieff 4 роки тому +2

    Without accounting for friction, a lug nut with thread pitch 1.5 mm tightened to 78 lb*ft (106 N*m) imparts 45 metric ton (444 kN) of force.
    Grease-lubricated steel to steel friction coefficient is about 0.15. Clean and dry steel to steel friction coefficient is above 0.5.
    For M12 bolt, the torque for friction coefficient 0.15 (lubricated bolt) divides between bolt stretch and friction as about 1:4. Bolt strain will be 1/5 of the case without friction - about 9 ton.
    The torque for friction coefficient 0.5 (un-lubricated bolt) divides between bolt stretch and friction as 1:12. Bolt strain will be 1/13 of the case without friction - about 3.5 ton.
    As you can see, lubrication makes giant difference in the bolt strain.
    With 1 metric ton of force applied (9810 N) the stress on M12*1.5 bolt (9 mm diameter after treading) would be 9810/(0.0045*0.0045*pi)=154 MPa.
    If the bolt steel is rated to 600 MPa load, this means it's only rated for

    • @paulwary
      @paulwary 2 роки тому

      So you think that the derating he used is insufficient? What derating would you use? And is there any risk that the tension would tend to undo a lubricated bolt?

  • @aussiebloke609
    @aussiebloke609 4 роки тому +1

    Can't tell you how much I appreciate this, John. I'm a fan of anti-seize, but it's been hard to explain to people how it changes the torque needed to maintain the same fastener stretch - especially since it seems most people don't understand that bolts are supposed to stretch at all.

    • @AutoExpertJC
      @AutoExpertJC  4 роки тому +1

      Especially as you can't see them stretch. (Incidentally, that's the most precise way to tighten them - measure the stretch. NASA does that a lot.)

  • @phil-1477
    @phil-1477 4 роки тому +1

    Thanks for the video, awesome content!

  • @Spartan9567
    @Spartan9567 4 роки тому

    Great video wet torque vs dry torque is pretty important in a lot of different applications.

  • @iameccles
    @iameccles 4 роки тому

    John, you are my hero.

  • @cliffp.8396
    @cliffp.8396 4 роки тому

    Excellent teaching material, for adults that is.

  • @MrBuyerman
    @MrBuyerman 3 роки тому

    Nice PSA. Lots of people out there who have NEVER worked on their cars themselves and when the inevitable happens can't work it out from first principles. Cheers John.

  • @greghattingh3298
    @greghattingh3298 4 роки тому

    Thank you Dr. J. Cadogan

  • @kevinklei3005
    @kevinklei3005 4 роки тому +2

    Just a few comments never let the JOE BLOW at the Tyre /brake change outlets use a rattle gun on your vehicle unless they can prove what torque setting it is set .I have been caught on this before and even seen the stud stripped out. A few years ago some cars did have left L.H. threads on the L.H. on the studs/nuts that was to prevent the wheel coming off . If you take time to view some dash cam videos [try the Russian ones] you will notice that majority car wheels exit the L.H. side of the vehicle [one video was 9 L.H. versus 2 R.H. ]. P.s I now use anti seize and a torque wrench Cheers

  • @gtirboost
    @gtirboost 3 роки тому

    This video - Spot on in every respect. Loctite Australia.

  • @bernienebenfuhr8773
    @bernienebenfuhr8773 4 роки тому

    Thanks JC, great job. I will take a leaf from your book and do the chore, as I observed that wheel removal was quite difficult when I had a guy plug a tyre for me recently. Plenty of reasons to make the job trouble free when having new tyres fitted also, when so much can go wrong.

  • @robseignior4389
    @robseignior4389 4 роки тому

    Oh such sound advice.Keep em coming John.

  • @brianhoward9217
    @brianhoward9217 4 роки тому

    FANTASTIC apocapie time-usage video John. Another of yours I can flick over to my teen boys for some valuable teaching. Thing is, I've gone through most of this with them (not ALL, I did learn a few things here today!) however when dad says it, well, it is in question. Having you present it in such a pro way and with some humour (priceless) is absolutely perfect. PLUS if I give you to them on a 'device' or a TV you have their attention immediately. Thank you John, very much appreciate your effort with these vids! (love the tip re the rubber hammer - news to me and I'm, REALLY old and been doing this forever :-)) Believe it or not I am going out tomorrow to get my very FIRST torque wrench and some of that wondrous Penrite grease. You had me at Penrite - Aussie an' all, PLUS great lubricants - it is all I use in my Sprint 6.

  • @ler3968
    @ler3968 4 роки тому

    Brilliant vid, good info. I never thought my nuts (on a car) could be so complicated.

  • @svendholme3627
    @svendholme3627 4 роки тому

    John good info clearly stated. Thanks for the 0.7 tip on reduced torque when using anti-size, I just guessed. My pet peeve is the knuckle drager at the tire store who uses an impact gun at full bore to tighten lug nuts. Once I found all the threads distorted on two hubs and had to replace all the studs. Since then whenever I have a tire shop rotate my tires when I get home I loosen the nuts and use my torque wrench.

  • @stevenlane729
    @stevenlane729 4 роки тому

    brilliant video

  • @JUANKERR2000
    @JUANKERR2000 4 роки тому

    Thankyou, John, for some very useful info in this post. At my last car service the wheel nuts were put on so tight that when I needed to remove a wheel I broke the socket wrench. It was not a cheap socket but a German made Elora and I was not using a 'rattle gun' or a 'ghetto tube'.

  • @bertmcdonald8607
    @bertmcdonald8607 4 роки тому

    Great advice. Thank you.

  • @davidau8455
    @davidau8455 4 роки тому

    Seems very appropriate that John released a video on how to deal with tight nuts. I just thankful this particular video was void of mingmoles.

  • @johnloxley8705
    @johnloxley8705 3 роки тому

    Very informative buddy ... love it 😀👍🏽

  • @stephengrealy6237
    @stephengrealy6237 4 роки тому

    Good advice!!! Cheers John

  • @terryeffinp
    @terryeffinp 4 роки тому

    I come from the heavy duty truck industry, we are told to lubricate studs, and the washer attached to the nut with 40w oil. Just a drop on each. All of the manufactures call for this specifically, meritor, conmet, stemco, hendrickson, michelin, etc. That is is the lubricant that is specified for wheel fasteners, it gives the correct coefficient of friction. No dicking around to try and find out what the torque spec might theoretically be. If you are really worried about your lugnuts and wheels being seized on your car and you want to do things correctly, one wire wheel the inside of the rim where the wheel mates the hub, two lubricate the studs with >>>>A drop of clean engine oil

  • @philldodds1482
    @philldodds1482 4 роки тому

    Good advice John. Copper coat has been my friend for 50 years.

  • @Chris_Grossman
    @Chris_Grossman 4 роки тому +1

    Excellent video. I usually do a lower toque setting on the star pattern before moving to the final higher setting.

    • @Chris_Grossman
      @Chris_Grossman 4 роки тому

      I still have a can of high temperature ant-sieze I bought 35 years ago to use on the exhaust pipe nuts for my BMW air cooled boxer motorcycles.

  • @pear7777
    @pear7777 4 роки тому

    "Knock 30% off" ?? I'd expected you needed to ADD ! Very well explained, totally logical.

    • @pear7777
      @pear7777 4 роки тому

      To add to this: WHEN it clicks STOP! Mr euromaster!

  • @gregjhill
    @gregjhill 4 роки тому

    Great video! One other tip is to familiarise yourself with where the basic tools are located. My jack is located under the front passenger seat.
    I've had the cross-threaded nut scenario I had some choice words to say about the mechanic! Keep up the great work.

  • @mtrctylarry
    @mtrctylarry 2 місяці тому

    Jolly good info mate👍 Cheers 🍻

  • @krull2534
    @krull2534 3 роки тому

    Continue saying Straya as u do. Love it.
    And gret advice in your videos.

  • @barendloots1281
    @barendloots1281 4 роки тому

    Good video thanks for the advise

  • @aztech4x4mechanical
    @aztech4x4mechanical 4 роки тому +8

    I would also recommend a small amount of anti seize around the centre hub. Wheels on newer cars are hubcentric so the hole in the centre of the wheel is a very close fit around the centre hub. This will often corrode making wheel removal very difficult, another great reason to carry that rubber mallet.

  • @noHandle1776
    @noHandle1776 4 роки тому +1

    Good stuff sir. I always carry a breaker bar, proper socket and a 3” socket extension in my truck with it. But it’s also a 3500 so the lugs are a beast. BUT, my wife’s care also has the same setup, smaller of course, because those tools the cars comes with make it a PITA. I also agree with the anti seize, yes always.

  • @emmanueltlou4223
    @emmanueltlou4223 4 роки тому +1

    John, thanks for the on what one of your detractors called "anti-cease". I used it on all my cars.

  • @muzzm5959
    @muzzm5959 4 роки тому +10

    I was told as a lad by my dairy farmer uncle, “ it should be illegal not put grease on all nuts and bolts”.

    • @noelrieusset718
      @noelrieusset718 4 роки тому +1

      your Uncle should have stuck to farming... :-)

    • @NoWr2Run
      @NoWr2Run 4 роки тому +1

      WELL HE'S AN IDIOT, PLUS THERE'S WAAAAYYY TOOOOO MANY LAWS ON THE BOOKS NOW FOR THE GOV. TO MAKE MONEY OFF OF US.

    • @michaeldanks5975
      @michaeldanks5975 4 роки тому +3

      Lubricating the thread can possibly lower the coefficient of friction enough to make a self locking thread a non self locking thread and you know what can happen then, or do you?
      Old Uncle dairy farmer probably does look an idiot to dumb people.

    • @COIcultist
      @COIcultist 4 роки тому

      @@michaeldanks5975 I never use copper grease on wheel nuts and studs for that very reason. Was working turning bearing housings for turbochargers (Much bigger than the one on your car) I was stood next to a different lathe than I had been using. I was just getting an explanation about doing a different job when the lathe let go of the bearing housing. 6kg spinning at n thousand revs has quite a bit of energy in it. Fortunately the lathe was fully shielded but there was quite a bang. I was asked to start stripping the lathe to see what went wrong. All I could find was the draw bolt had been coated in grease. Cleaned it all off and used some solvent soaked rag to clean the other threaded end. Never had a problem since.
      I have tried to find out when or when not to use copper grease but never found anything concrete on the subject. Personally if the part is likely to face vibration I don't use copper grease.

  • @QUADDAMAGE07
    @QUADDAMAGE07 Рік тому

    Thank you.

  • @Biketouring
    @Biketouring 3 роки тому

    Enjoyed the video! Keep it up :)

  • @mikepayne5277
    @mikepayne5277 4 роки тому +1

    Just did the wheel/tire swap on my F250, I like to use caliper grease on my lug bolts. It is ceramic based and will not effect braking if some gets on the rotor.

  • @mr.esq.8635
    @mr.esq.8635 Рік тому

    I hit the subscribe button when I heard the phrase, "I would retort, what a load of shit." Priceless! Thank you Mad Matt for posting the link to this video.

  • @bonza167
    @bonza167 4 роки тому

    thanx for the tip about the non boy band road side assist. glad you mentioned trade tips from fitter/machinist. my line of work

  • @cra1gf
    @cra1gf 4 роки тому

    Bloody enjoyed that. Thank you.

  • @nathanallen2051
    @nathanallen2051 4 роки тому

    Wheels connected too the brakes, brakes connect to a shit load of heat.. that’s gold

  • @Crosshead1
    @Crosshead1 4 роки тому

    Great video John; one of your best. Thank you. Btw, I just went and bought myself a torque wrench and some anti seize grease. I think the rattle gun will be next.

  • @bobburke9966
    @bobburke9966 4 роки тому

    A very informative article, I agree with every point you made.
    In regards to copper bases anti seize grease, many years ago I had a friend who thought that copper based anti seize grease would be great to make it easier to remove the propellor of an outboard motor. Bad Idea! A case of a little knowledge (and none on electrolysis). being dangerous. He had endless problems getting the propellor off till he woke up.

  • @thewholls7176
    @thewholls7176 4 роки тому +1

    Good video John I could see the engineer coming out in you there......
    I’ve gotta admit I got my license in 1988 and I think the number of times I’ve had to change a tyre on the side of the road is once for me.... and several times in a good Samaritan setting where I’ve stopped to help somebody else
    Maybe I won’t be launching any rockets for NASA any time soon........
    but over 30 years I’ve worked out that 9.9 times out of 10 you don’t have to actually take the wheel off........ all you need to do is make sure you carry a decent 12 V compressor it’s usually a slow leak caused by a nail or screw in the tyre something like that...... you can pump it up and it will be fine for the rest of the day and you can get to a car shop to put a plug in it at a convenient time....
    Having said all that I’m one of those people that does obsessive-compulsive 6000 km oil changes also fortunate enough to have bought a scissor lift so whilst oil is draining I swap the front tyres to the back and I’ve gotta say using that type of rotation frequency I’ve gotten 35,000 km out of a set of Pirelli‘s while without doing that I’ve gotten 22,000......
    so my wheel studs get a fair bit of work and I do use Permax anti seize and A Warren and Brown torque wrench to put the nuts back on set at 95 foot pounds..... which I absolutely recommend everything you said is correct...!!!!
    Either way my mates say the NRMA does stand for something....
    “ No Real Mechanics Available”...
    Hahaha.....

  • @BryanTorok
    @BryanTorok 4 роки тому +1

    The quality alignment shop I patronize uses the air-gun just to spin the nuts snug and then finishes with a torque wrench to proper spec. They are proud of that and list the torque spec. on the bill of sale initialed by the mechanic. And, if you are waiting for your car, you can watch them through window actually doing it on every car.

  • @garfieldsmith332
    @garfieldsmith332 4 роки тому

    Very good advice. I would recommend getting one of those x-shaped/cross shaped 3 in 1 lug wrenches. They are used with two hands so there is more leverage as one hand pushes down and the other pulls up. One prong is flattened to assist in removing wheels covers. P.S. If you use the old steel rims for winter tires buy a set up cheap wheel covers so you do not drive around all winter in the cold with your nuts exposed.

  • @shanebeaugs
    @shanebeaugs 4 роки тому +1

    Hi John, I worked in workshops and car dealerships for 14 years or so, we also put anti-seize on the locating hubs as alloy wheel/steel hubs almost can seem to weld themselves together, and were just about impossible to get off if your were on the side of the road, VT to VZ commodores wore the worst.
    We always torqued wheel nuts so they were never over tightened. (though did not know I had to back them off wet)
    Anyway still to this day many people still just hang off the rattle gun and over tighten nuts (snap on & Milwaukee etc battery powered guns are more powerful then most of the old 1/2 pneumatic guns) so that is a real worry

  • @233kosta
    @233kosta 4 роки тому

    I spent a bunch of money on calibrated torque wrenches earlier this year, covering from 2 to 300 Nm across the three.
    Absolutely, definitively, THE best 250 quid I spent all year!

  • @stuarthancock571
    @stuarthancock571 4 роки тому +6

    The old fashioned 4 way wheel brace is still my favourite. You use both arms to pull on equal sides of the nut and then spin the nuts off with the brace. Those factory wheel wrenches that sit next the jack.... yeah use as a last resort if that's all you've got.
    I find that WD 40/ CRC 5.56 is adequate in lieu of Never Seize. It slowly dries out but good enough for a year. Boat trailer being the exception of course.

    • @abyssmanur3965
      @abyssmanur3965 4 роки тому

      Two short lengths of metal tube to increase cranking power on brace helps too.

  • @alangrant5278
    @alangrant5278 9 місяців тому

    After our lockdown our old Toyota trueno sprinter had a seized up idle air control valve. Took it apart and cleaned it up and all good.

  • @DnG-Crafts
    @DnG-Crafts 4 роки тому

    that sub 200 buck ryobi rattle gun has served me well for many years, great company and great tool.

    • @DnG-Crafts
      @DnG-Crafts 4 роки тому

      @@GS-kh5se damn, i have about 15 batteries and almost all of the one+ tool range and in about 10 years i have had 1 battery die which looked to be one of the oldest ones and an angle grinder i was using to cut pavers died during a cut.
      ryobi replaced the grinder free of charge and the replacement has been good.
      i still have the very first one+ tool i purchased which was a drill and that thing has had a hard life building patios and fences.
      it has been left in the rain dropped off roofs and probably driven a million teks and it still goes hard.
      it is my favorite one because it has a steel chuck, the new ones are plastic :(

  • @Buddy-po4hv
    @Buddy-po4hv 3 роки тому

    I've dealt with Bogan Cadogan before, and he's a good and funny person, two thumbs up.

  • @blablabla4022
    @blablabla4022 2 роки тому

    Always a pleasure to watch your videos. Wouldn’t the lubricant reduce the friction needed to prevent the bolts from loosening?

  • @RichardOzanne
    @RichardOzanne 4 роки тому +2

    Thanks for the tips, John. I tend to undo in the same order as tightening. Is it necessary? I don't know, but it doesn't do any harm. I've never lubed my nuts before and not had a problem so far, but I probably will in the future. I was always worried about over-tightening and/or nuts coming loose.
    One thing to remind people is that with a torque wrench you should only set the torque when you're ready to do the job then immediately reset to zero at the end. If you leave it set at 80 (or whatever) for months in your toolbox the calibration can go out so you may well be under-tightening your nuts next time.

  • @robertgestier2013
    @robertgestier2013 4 роки тому +22

    Dont be wearing your Sunday best when using never-sneeze.

    • @MongooseTacticool
      @MongooseTacticool 4 роки тому +2

      That shit gets everywhere!

    • @NoWr2Run
      @NoWr2Run 4 роки тому

      UNLESS YOUR CLOTHES ARE THE SAME COLOR AS YOUR ANTI-SEIZE, & YOUR HANDS, FACE, YOU GET THE PICTURE. AS SAID BY Robert Gestier " THE SHIT DOES GET EVERYWHERE " & IT'S A BITCH TO REMOVE.

    • @Slazmoservicing4209
      @Slazmoservicing4209 4 роки тому

      Use a painters pallet knife - easy way to control dose and keeps it a long way from your meat beaters.

    • @bcad4066
      @bcad4066 4 роки тому

      Ha ha! You got that right!

  • @Billy-rr7re
    @Billy-rr7re 4 роки тому +3

    i bought an impact wrench for $50, that helps a lot to remove those bolts.

  • @kevinbarry71
    @kevinbarry71 4 роки тому +3

    Wonderful, practical advice; how to keep your nuts happy

  • @Todd66
    @Todd66 4 роки тому

    John would you do a video on using Anti-seize or not on spark plugs. Great content, love the videos.