If y’all are having the 3rd gear grind/ pop out, change the transmission fluid to amsoil synchromesh. It fixed mine, and I haven’t had a grind or pop out ever since the switch!
"beat up / abuse a car over and over again and nothing will happen" is a crock of sh*t. Even a reliable car like a Honda will still suffer issues. Any car.
I like what you say at 5:50. Having a reliable car gives you that peace of mind every time you slam the gas or take corners, it's like having a psychological edge. If you're worried about your car reliability every time you push you have the worry in the back of your mind which makes it not as fun.
The reliability really is where honda shines because my accord, is a daily, and has a little fun...but still takes me where I need to be with no problem.
I’ve owned 3 si coupes 2007 galaxy gray 2012 black and my current car now 2007 sliver coupe I love these cars for the money hands down best investment!
You can’t beat a si man. Gas, reliability and the fact part cheap. Fwd with the factory lsd is amazing! Handles great and has a great interior for price point.
It's a fun car to drive, my gf drives an 07 Si coupe in black. Makes my prelude feel fat and heavy when I drive her car. It just accelerates so much easier/faster. And that's comparing it to my 5th gen prelude with a H23A VTEC bluetop.
Fellow 8th FA5 Si owner here. This has been my favorite car I have ever owned. It's '09 so the 3rd gear grind hasn't been an issue for me, and it's garage kept, so the paint is still lustrous! I have a HR CAI, HR shifter bushings, Buddy club short shifter, JDM Shift boot. Koni/Tien suspension, Comptech shortie header (that does give me gains!).
I have a 07 FA5 and man you nailed it. I have tried time and time again to sell it but I just keep telling myself to get a k24 bottom end and call it a day. I love seeing videos like this
I own a k20 fg2 with a greddy turbo kit, Hondata, etc and it is a constant. Constant temptation to speed in and hear the turbo spool, and hit vtech kick. lol
Nice! Just got a 07 Si Fg2 with 100k for my Daily to get to work and back... its an amazing car, absolutely love it! its a blast to drive while at the same time getting 30mph ... Good video man!
Just picked up a 2011 a week ago with 143k miles in blue it’s the sedan interior is very clean first of all the car is quick it feels like it has more than 197 hp idk how Honda does it but they can squeeze the hell out of a engine
I've owned 2 civics years ago, I thought about always getting an Si. Finally 2 weeks ago I bought a 9th gen Si. I own a BMW 328i and I must say the Si how responsive that 2.4 L engine is, it's amazing I love it. I am now thinking on getting rid of my BMW and also get a Type R just for kicks 😅.
is the 2008 the best of this generation? I have a 95 Del sol but saw an awesome 2008 today! It looks Great... if the 2011 looks the same and is just as good I would rather get that... Any thoughts? Thanks!
I believe it is the best modern Vtec platform you can buy. What makes it unique is it's very high revving engine... something they would take away for gen 9. You can argue that some of the previous older gens are more fun, but if you're looking for more safety, better features, and overall fun factor. Gen 8 is the best in my opinion.
@@robdog9265 I Love my Honda Del Sol but I keep hearing how it's getting harder and harder to replace parts on them... So thinking bout getting a 2011 in this Generation we are talking about... Get the 196 hp Engine too! Figure I would be able to replace parts and seats and stuff like that easier etc...
@@MikeKollin Yep. Funny enough I actually had a Honda Del Sol a couple years back! I loved it. I would DEFINITELY recommend holding onto that thing for ever. The value around the world has been shooting up. My guess is that they become a JDM collectable in the next decade.
@@robdog9265 I totally Agree! That was literally a 3 day lapse in Consciousness! hahaha... I am now looking into buying a B16A2 Engine for my Del Sol Now!! It originally was my Ex girlfriends car. I didn't like it at all when she first bought it, for years... then she traded this car for my Honda Prelude and took over payments... It took me about a year to really fall in Love with it.,.. it was the first car I ever worked on. Gave it a tune up, cleaned parts, changed parts etc. I really started getting into it through youtube Video's once I changed a few things, put new air filter, plugs, wires, PCV Valve, cleaned the air sensor and a few other small things, the thing really started sounding great and had more pep than it ever had! From that point on I was hooked!! 🐹😊
liang liam i've own an 8th gen civic sedan and now the coupe. Havent owned a 9th gen but have been in one and can tell you that the 8th gen is the last true Civic. The 9th gen has a K20 while the 9th gen has a K24. The K24 has a few fingers more HP than the K20 and more torque which means VTEC is not as dramatic as the K20. If you want a simple car and raw driving experience get the 8th gen. If you want a nice interior with tech and safety features then get the 9th gen.
I have a 2009 civic lx. Wish I got the Si and you’re right Honda’s are reliable. Btw, just curious is it your clutch that’s squeaking? been hearing it for a while and am concerned 😟
HI I I LIVE IN CANADA B.C I JUST BOUGHT A 2008 CIVIC SI JUST LIKE THIS ONE BUT WITH LEATHER SEATS ....ITS GOT 170000KMS.....I LOVE THIS CAR WAY BETTER THAN MY 2002 PRELUDE....THIS CIVIC IS LIKE A LITTLE ROCKET I DONT BEAT ON IT I DEIVE IT NICE & SMOOTH....HINDA DID A GR6HIB WITH THIS MODEL
I beat on my 09 sedan daily...it asks for you to have fun with it. I’ve had zero issues besides the horrible paint recall. I’ve owned quite a few different Hondas and I believe this is my favorite, even above my crx(totaled/sold), both 4th and 5th gen preludes(stolen/sold)...as well as the 98 and 95 civics too(sold).
That price is a bit concerning. That type of mileage means that the clutch for sure needs to be replaced if it hasn’t already. I’d honestly just pay for a basic inspection. And if it passes go for it. These cars are bullet proof if the previous owner didn’t cause obvious damage
@@bluelane the RSX was totaled unfortunately. After that I was shopping for a similar but modern car. I was opting for a 9th gen Si coupe at first but after testing a 10th gen Si I felt it was a faster and way better looking model. Currently I’m seeking to switch to a Type R but wait to see how the 11th gen CTR looks like to make a decision
As long as she took good care of it and all maintenance especially the simple stuff like oil every 3k miles, women tend to not know basic stuff about cars due to lack of interest.
I paid 5k for my 09 si sedan...mind you this was 3 years ago. It had around 115k miles on it and no major damage...runs perfect and still does. Just giving you an idea of figures I paid. The guy was originally asking 6k.
I have a 2011 Si with a KandN typhoon intake and Invidia q300 exhaust. Recommend the invidia it's a very mild exhaust but still noticeable improvement. I'm going to pair it with an Invidia header next 👍
Lol you got the typical civic si owner spot on with me! First year college student, who saw this car as an affordable, fun, reliable, daily that I could mod in the future! Love your vids dog
And btw my first experience with vtec was a 06 tsx I was going down the road and decided to punch it and at first I was like damn that’s all it’s got than all of a sudden it got louder and a burst of speed lol I actually thought something was wrong with the car lol until I realized nothing was wrong it just has to be in the high revs but it’s very fun
I have an 07 lx may not be an si to be honest never been into Honda’s besides reliability for a DD. I can say my 07 has it since 2010 started at 55k now has almost 311k. I wouldn’t mind getting an SI I like the sedan better on the tail end but wouldn’t mind a coupe. good in depth review of the SI. Keep up the good work
Rob Cameron - Car Vlogs you’re welcome anytime yep 311k miles on my little R18 it’s a nice little daily. I do keep pretty good care of it despite hitting a few deer. I actually found your channel in recommended when you were talking about your wrx and is it a reliable car a while back. I agree the sedans are more practical. I just like the tail end a little better though. Can’t wait to see what is next for your cats I hope your holidays and Christmas (if you celebrate) is good
Picked one up tody, 07 with 84k miles on it. I owned 10th gen si as well. Can't really compare the Vtech to 10th gen anymore. To be honest, best SI's are 10th gen hands down. But the sound of an 8th gen is so fuckin' sexy even if it's stock. I love both cars!!!
Nice video, I always wanted a 8th gen si and I finally saved enough to get one and went to a dealership nearby that had one but it is WAY too small in there for me, me head was literally touching the roof, I didn’t buy it unfortunately just for that alone might go get a s2k instead
The s2k is a dream car to me! If you could make it work, it is definitely worth it. Extremely fun to drive, quicker than an Si, RWD, great aftermarket, cheap on gas, amazing on a track, I can go on and on. Helps that they also hold their value, if Honda doesn't make another one, I feel like they may go up in price in the future.
What is the best Si generation??!🤔
Rob Cameron - Car Vlogs 8th gen and 6th gen
8th gen! it would be the newest gen if it was NA
@@therealchicken7395 good choices! 🤙🏼
@@joshwallsy2718 Same : ( or atleast have a turbo and vtec
9th!
If y’all are having the 3rd gear grind/ pop out, change the transmission fluid to amsoil synchromesh. It fixed mine, and I haven’t had a grind or pop out ever since the switch!
I can vouch for this,he’s not lying 💯
i have 2007 civic si
my 4th gear makes noise for some reason… i changed transmission oil but it didnt fix it..
I'm fixn to look at one myself today. Thank you
@@kushtv2809 can you tag me if you find a solution?
It’ll fix it… temporarily, regardless it’ll need synchros unless you want your trans to fail.
Best years
"beat up / abuse a car over and over again and nothing will happen" is a crock of sh*t. Even a reliable car like a Honda will still suffer issues. Any car.
I like what you say at 5:50. Having a reliable car gives you that peace of mind every time you slam the gas or take corners, it's like having a psychological edge. If you're worried about your car reliability every time you push you have the worry in the back of your mind which makes it not as fun.
Exactly my point! And I do believe that I plays a large role.
I’m getting this as my first car!! I can’t wait to get it I’m so excited!!😎😎
Me too man I’m ecstatic!
@@cameronlegree I hope both you guys like it. I have had this car for a little over a year and it’s amazing
So did you get it ?
The reliability really is where honda shines because my accord, is a daily, and has a little fun...but still takes me where I need to be with no problem.
Yep Honda is definitely solid throughout all their lineups!
which accord do you have
@@ismaelgomez2158 06, 4cyl, 4Dr
@@yaboirice5872 bruh
shit man is that lethbridge ???
Thinking about getting this for my first manual car!
Drove the new Civic Si with the Turbo non VTEC. Fun yes, but without that VTEC transition sound it feels incomplete.
I’ve owned 3 si coupes 2007 galaxy gray 2012 black and my current car now 2007 sliver coupe I love these cars for the money hands down best investment!
Joey Cordero In your experience, does the newer 8th gen si have less transmission and clutch problems than the older ones? (2006-2008 vs 2009-2011)
Im 16 and my wrx sti just blew up also, picking up a 8th gen si this Saturday! Im so excited!
Awesome man! 8th gens are fantastic cars.
You had an STI a t 16? Living the dream
@@josephk5385 yes sir
8th gens are fun. how many miles on yours?
I went on a 8 hour roundtrip in the backseat of this gen of si and it really wasn't too bad at all actually
You can’t beat a si man. Gas, reliability and the fact part cheap. Fwd with the factory lsd is amazing! Handles great and has a great interior for price point.
Exactly my thoughts too! great all around value!
It's a fun car to drive, my gf drives an 07 Si coupe in black. Makes my prelude feel fat and heavy when I drive her car. It just accelerates so much easier/faster. And that's comparing it to my 5th gen prelude with a H23A VTEC bluetop.
Fellow 8th FA5 Si owner here. This has been my favorite car I have ever owned. It's '09 so the 3rd gear grind hasn't been an issue for me, and it's garage kept, so the paint is still lustrous! I have a HR CAI, HR shifter bushings, Buddy club short shifter, JDM Shift boot. Koni/Tien suspension, Comptech shortie header (that does give me gains!).
I have a 07 FA5 and man you nailed it. I have tried time and time again to sell it but I just keep telling myself to get a k24 bottom end and call it a day. I love seeing videos like this
dont sell it. those cars are gems man.
I'm gonna get my first car like a Civic Coupe manual. Im almost done getting my license
Sabine Fernando get wn si not base model
Is it still worth it in late 2022? I really love the 8th model and I'd love to own one as my first car.
Yes. In good shape they are only up in value. Future classic.
Nice I went from a 5th gen prelude to a civic si as well. 99 base prelude to 2010 sedan si
I have an 08 with 14k miles, Bone stock except rims. Great car!
Back up from the camera when you're recording my guy
how do you know when you jit v-tec?
I own a k20 fg2 with a greddy turbo kit, Hondata, etc and it is a constant. Constant temptation to speed in and hear the turbo spool, and hit vtech kick. lol
Nice! Just got a 07 Si Fg2 with 100k for my Daily to get to work and back... its an amazing car, absolutely love it! its a blast to drive while at the same time getting 30mph ...
Good video man!
Ooo yeah. They have so much value for the price. Thanks man cheers!
how much did you get for if you dont mind me asking?
DarkLink56 I got mine with 80k miles for $7000
You drive to work going 30 mph in an si? 😆
you still got your si fam?
Picked up a 2010 4 door the other week after some jackass hit me and it wrote off my 2006 Cooper S, absolutely love the car VTEC is insane.
Nice profile pic. Respect.
It's a fucking Tie Fighter. So righteous.
Just picked up a 2011 a week ago with 143k miles in blue it’s the sedan interior is very clean first of all the car is quick it feels like it has more than 197 hp idk how Honda does it but they can squeeze the hell out of a engine
Why you so close to the camera 😒
I've owned 2 civics years ago, I thought about always getting an Si. Finally 2 weeks ago I bought a 9th gen Si. I own a BMW 328i and I must say the Si how responsive that 2.4 L engine is, it's amazing I love it. I am now thinking on getting rid of my BMW and also get a Type R just for kicks 😅.
Do it. In the great wisdom of shia lebouf, JUST DO IT!!!!!!
I have a 528i and I plan on selling it then buying an 8th gen si, lmao
Did you? Thoughts compared to 9th gen?
is the 2008 the best of this generation?
I have a 95 Del sol but saw an awesome 2008 today!
It looks Great... if the 2011 looks the same and is just as good I would rather get that...
Any thoughts? Thanks!
I believe it is the best modern Vtec platform you can buy. What makes it unique is it's very high revving engine... something they would take away for gen 9. You can argue that some of the previous older gens are more fun, but if you're looking for more safety, better features, and overall fun factor. Gen 8 is the best in my opinion.
@@robdog9265 I Love my Honda Del Sol but I keep hearing how it's getting harder and harder to replace parts on them... So thinking bout getting a 2011 in this Generation we are talking about... Get the 196 hp Engine too! Figure I would be able to replace parts and seats and stuff like that easier etc...
@@MikeKollin Yep. Funny enough I actually had a Honda Del Sol a couple years back! I loved it. I would DEFINITELY recommend holding onto that thing for ever. The value around the world has been shooting up. My guess is that they become a JDM collectable in the next decade.
@@robdog9265 I totally Agree! That was literally a 3 day lapse in Consciousness! hahaha...
I am now looking into buying a B16A2 Engine for my Del Sol Now!! It originally was my Ex girlfriends car. I didn't like it at all when she first bought it, for years... then she traded this car for my Honda Prelude and took over payments... It took me about a year to really fall in Love with it.,.. it was the first car I ever worked on. Gave it a tune up, cleaned parts, changed parts etc. I really started getting into it through youtube Video's once I changed a few things, put new air filter, plugs, wires, PCV Valve, cleaned the air sensor and a few other small things, the thing really started sounding great and had more pep than it ever had! From that point on I was hooked!! 🐹😊
No it doesn't look the same in 2009 the Civic had a facelift he got rid of the small overhangs in the front in the back and switched up the front end
Love your video
I jus bought a 06 civic automatic. I think I might sell it and get a manual
Wheels and Tires?
what is the main differnet between 8 egn and 9gen, If i plan to buy a used 9 gen civic si what do i need to check?
liang liam i've own an 8th gen civic sedan and now the coupe. Havent owned a 9th gen but have been in one and can tell you that the 8th gen is the last true Civic. The 9th gen has a K20 while the 9th gen has a K24. The K24 has a few fingers more HP than the K20 and more torque which means VTEC is not as dramatic as the K20. If you want a simple car and raw driving experience get the 8th gen. If you want a nice interior with tech and safety features then get the 9th gen.
I have a 2009 civic lx. Wish I got the Si and you’re right Honda’s are reliable. Btw, just curious is it your clutch that’s squeaking? been hearing it for a while and am concerned 😟
I don't have my Civic anymore, but loved it. And no it was my new shoes squeeking on the pedals!
How many cars do you have? Hey
Great video friendo! you definitely can't go wrong with Honda reliability that's for sure!
Thanks my dude, and yep. Definitely a huge positive!
Kinda wanna buy a 8thgen si for fun
do it. u can find ones for cheap. good project, fun car
7:25 I try not to hit it a lot but if I do I hit it hard lmao 😂
HI I I LIVE IN CANADA B.C
I JUST BOUGHT A 2008 CIVIC SI JUST LIKE THIS ONE BUT WITH LEATHER SEATS ....ITS GOT 170000KMS.....I LOVE THIS CAR WAY BETTER THAN MY 2002 PRELUDE....THIS CIVIC IS LIKE A LITTLE ROCKET I DONT BEAT ON IT I DEIVE IT NICE & SMOOTH....HINDA DID A GR6HIB WITH THIS MODEL
The rims.. are the wheels! Why you keep saying upgrade the rims AND wheels?
3rr gear synchro issue = grinding gear? How are you using that twrm synchro issue
gotta rev that baby out.. i never shift before 7800rpm when getting on it xD
I beat on my 09 sedan daily...it asks for you to have fun with it. I’ve had zero issues besides the horrible paint recall. I’ve owned quite a few different Hondas and I believe this is my favorite, even above my crx(totaled/sold), both 4th and 5th gen preludes(stolen/sold)...as well as the 98 and 95 civics too(sold).
drivers mod
I got a 9th Gen 2015 Si coupe a month ago... But I test drive both 8th and 9th Gen... the back seats are usable not compared to the BRZ/FRS/86.
2015 was the last year the coupe was 👍
Had an 08 si. What a cheap, fun automobile! Good times.
That’s not a HUD. That’s just an LED speedometer lol
I’m looking at an 2008 Civic si with 300,000km for 2.5k I’m wondering what reliability would be at this high of kilometres
That price is a bit concerning. That type of mileage means that the clutch for sure needs to be replaced if it hasn’t already. I’d honestly just pay for a basic inspection. And if it passes go for it. These cars are bullet proof if the previous owner didn’t cause obvious damage
Rob Cameron just realized you also go to uLeth from the the sweater 😂 small world also vw gang I drive a gli that I crashed
clicked the video cause I've got a 2010 civic si and realize that this is in medicine hat where i'm at... hmu sometime bro
I owned an 06 RSX and currently a 10th gen SI.
How do they compare for you? Was deciding between these two and found a deal on a 10th gen before trying the rsx
@@bluelane the RSX was totaled unfortunately. After that I was shopping for a similar but modern car. I was opting for a 9th gen Si coupe at first but after testing a 10th gen Si I felt it was a faster and way better looking model. Currently I’m seeking to switch to a Type R but wait to see how the 11th gen CTR looks like to make a decision
What are the best places to get parts for an 8th gen? Been hard to find compared to my old 94
Just bought a 2011 SI coupe with 92000 miles for $5500! Sister in law hooked it up! She’s original owner
Ajacks80 came up my boi
carlos garcia good deal right?
just bought a 2013 white 4 dr fb6 for 9800 has 103k
carlos garcia nice!
As long as she took good care of it and all maintenance especially the simple stuff like oil every 3k miles, women tend to not know basic stuff about cars due to lack of interest.
Someone here has one for sale for $5000 with 189000 miles on it. Is it worth it. Btw I had a bunch of scoobys and I kept having head issues in it.
I paid 5k for my 09 si sedan...mind you this was 3 years ago. It had around 115k miles on it and no major damage...runs perfect and still does. Just giving you an idea of figures I paid. The guy was originally asking 6k.
The prices are crazy right now. I picked up an 07 with 150k for 5k. Many are asking $7500+
@@shangtsung1362 i picked up a black 8th gen Civic Si with 119k miles for $7,500
“I try not to hit it a lot but if I do I hit it hard! Revs it to 6500 when redline Is 8200 ..... okay buddy
It won't cut until 8500 rev limit /fuel shutoff.. would happily spin to 10k lol
vtec makes it hard not to speed
Another video, well done! How would you compare this 8th Gen. SI with the Prelude you owned? Thanks, Rob.
Hybrid intake, skunk 2 alpha header, Full Race exhaust with Flashpro....performance list
Thanks brotha! I’m making a video soon for top mods for the Si lineup. Thanks for the feedback
Lovely review keep it up
Thanks man!
OoOoOohhHh I thought it was just me w/ the 3rd gear issues
Change the transmission fluid to amsoil synchromesh. It fixed mine
Snow tires go on all 4 wheels..
Yes you are right, however if you have an issue with one of your snow tires, and there’s snow, you make it work I guess
I have a 2011 Si with a KandN typhoon intake and Invidia q300 exhaust. Recommend the invidia it's a very mild exhaust but still noticeable improvement. I'm going to pair it with an Invidia header next 👍
Lol you got the typical civic si owner spot on with me! First year college student, who saw this car as an affordable, fun, reliable, daily that I could mod in the future! Love your vids dog
Ay, thanks dude. Really appreciate it.
Say the "rather get the wx" like im supposed to know what a wx is? Uhm? Cant even look up your comparison now.
Subaru WRX
And btw my first experience with vtec was a 06 tsx I was going down the road and decided to punch it and at first I was like damn that’s all it’s got than all of a sudden it got louder and a burst of speed lol I actually thought something was wrong with the car lol until I realized nothing was wrong it just has to be in the high revs but it’s very fun
I have a 19 SI, id really love an 8th gen, more driving pleasure I’m sure
You have hardly hit vtec yourself
That dash cam footage was from a separate pull lol. Only b-roll I had
Just about every car manufacturer has a form of vtec even subarus!
Nope. Most manufacturers have variable cam timing but not VTEC.
No they have vvti and similiar but they don't have vtech patented son the f g 2 8500 Redline V Tech
I was gonna like this vid but the amount of ads you put is absurd.
A mans gotta eat
7th generation from 2001-2005.
Would love an '09-'11 sedan to daily. Coupes look cool but are hopelessly impractical.
I love my 09 si sedan...probably keep it forever after going through many Honda platforms. Great car!
Civic and practical go together in the dic
The si also comes in a sedan
Son has that same Honda.. why when I check his oil, it smells like gasoline???
I'm going to review my car but not bother to clean it. Look at my dirt
Rims and wheels are the same thing ...
Rims are the edges of the Aluminum or Steel wheels, Wheel is the entire piece itself
Good video, very informative. You open your mouth really wide when you talk..it kind of scares me
Holy repeat yourself batman
I have an 07 lx may not be an si to be honest never been into Honda’s besides reliability for a DD. I can say my 07 has it since 2010 started at 55k now has almost 311k. I wouldn’t mind getting an SI I like the sedan better on the tail end but wouldn’t mind a coupe. good in depth review of the SI. Keep up the good work
311k miles?! And yes they are also an excellent car. The sedan Si is a lot more practical, so I’d honestly recommend them over the Coupe. Thanks man!
Rob Cameron - Car Vlogs you’re welcome anytime yep 311k miles on my little R18 it’s a nice little daily. I do keep pretty good care of it despite hitting a few deer. I actually found your channel in recommended when you were talking about your wrx and is it a reliable car a while back. I agree the sedans are more practical. I just like the tail end a little better though. Can’t wait to see what is next for your cats I hope your holidays and Christmas (if you celebrate) is good
You too, Cheers!👍🏻
Picked one up tody, 07 with 84k miles on it. I owned 10th gen si as well. Can't really compare the Vtech to 10th gen anymore. To be honest, best SI's are 10th gen hands down. But the sound of an 8th gen is so fuckin' sexy even if it's stock. I love both cars!!!
you still got your 8th gen fam?
Thoughts on why you prefer the 10th vs 8th gen? I was considering both until I found a 10th gen for a deal, never got to try the 8th.
Nice video, I always wanted a 8th gen si and I finally saved enough to get one and went to a dealership nearby that had one but it is WAY too small in there for me, me head was literally touching the roof, I didn’t buy it unfortunately just for that alone might go get a s2k instead
The Real Chicken the s2k small
Dinhasaurus headroom was the issue with the civic, s2k is convertible but yeah it is a bit smaller
The Real Chicken the s2000 is super small. How tall are you? The si seats crank down ?
The s2k is a dream car to me! If you could make it work, it is definitely worth it. Extremely fun to drive, quicker than an Si, RWD, great aftermarket, cheap on gas, amazing on a track, I can go on and on. Helps that they also hold their value, if Honda doesn't make another one, I feel like they may go up in price in the future.
@@robdog9265 it's not quicker then the si. On paper it is
This car sucks balls stock. Needs k24 swap
K24 is so boring
It only has 11 more pound-feet of torque then the base model's 140 horsepower 128 lb of torque yeah rev the f*** out of this baby