I once knew a believer by the name of Mario, who was functionally illiterate when he surrendered to Jesus. He asked the Lord to help him learn how to read. In 1975 he began to learn how to read and write with the Holy Ghost and a King James Version. He did this in his prison cell, alone with the Lord. I met him in 1991. He had a 3rd grade education, but I never knew (before or after) any one that understood the Bible better than Mario. When people tell me they can't understand the KJV, I always tell them about Mario. Thank you Pastor for doing these videos. It is refreshing to see young people who love the KJV. GREAT STUFF!!! Have you seen the Apostolic Bible Polyglot? It is an interlinear Bible, that has all the texts which the Alexandrian texts remove. I purchased a copy. Waiting for it to arrive. I looked into it. It is definitely Byzantine. I am excited to see it. God's best to you and yours Pastor.
Amen Pastor, that is amazing! Very good anecdote and there are many more like it! I have heard of the Apostolic polyglot Bible, looks interesting. My only critique is the Greek is unaccented, which makes it less than a pleasure to read.
Definitely can say after reading the kjv for 4 years straight that I actually believe its easier to read and understand than the modern versions. I've been reading through an esv this year and at times I come across words that I have to pull a dictionary out for. And yet when i look back at the same verses in the kjv the kjv actually rendered it with an easily understood word...makes no sense...anyways The kjv isn't that hard to read guys...that being said I actually find at times in the geneva bible it's easier to read than the kjv. Lol.
What advice do you give in trying to talk to a KJV Onlyist? For example, one person argued with me about the nephilim and how they were Sethites because of the “sons of god” wording in the KJV. I can’t even explain to him anything about the original languages because he believes that the KJV English is now how the Bible is meant to be understood. For him, the English translation now supersedes the original
That passage in particular doesn't have much to do with translation issues anyway, people have argued forever as to what the Nephilim were. It comes down to hermeneutics and interpretive principles. So the best way is to argue from scripture with scripture as to its meaning. The "sons of God" is what the Hebrew says in that place. The issue isn't the KJV rendering, it comes down to how one interprets it.
Have you ever heard of the book, "English for Bible Readers" by Paul W. Scott? I found it very helpful and so should others. He talks a little about the history of English Bibles and goes over some reasons why he uses the KJV, etc. but it's mostly a book explaining English grammar specifically applied to the King James. Though you should also know that he's not a Calvinist and gives one example arguing against Calvinism, so you'll have to take that with a grain of salt, but otherwise you and your church would probably benefit from it.
Thomas Nelson put out the KJV Reference Giant Print. It has an asterisk beside each archaic word and you just look in the center column and BAMB--you got it! It is a very readable Bible and comes in goatskin leather--all at a very reasonable price, great deal for the money.
@@DaneKristjan Dane, I am well versed in the KJV. I just don't think that you should encourage people to read bibles that they will struggle with comprehending for matters that are inconsequential to your average Christian.
Darnell Wesh They are not going to struggle to the point that they can't read it. And the reasons are not inconsequential. You can disagree that the reasons are correct, but it's dishonest to say they are inconsequential.
@@DaneKristjan That's your opinion. Whether or not they will struggle depends on their reading comprehension and several other factors (I'm speaking of native English speakers). I am not saying that differences between the KJV and Modern Versions aren't important. What I am saying is that to the average lay person these matters aren't ever really considered. Not only that, but even for those who are aware of translation issues, their Christianity isn't go to be anymore different than their brothers and sisters who use the ESV. Are you suggesting that Christianity, I'm speaking orthodoxy/orthopraxy, is going to be different for someone reading a KJV as opposed to the NASB? We both know the answer is no. Unless they become a KJV-onlyist, which you're not about. So why the big push?
Seriously WHY COULDN'T UA-cam HAVE RECOMMENDED THIS CHANNEL A YEAR AGO?!?! Such awesome stuff.
Thanks for the tips and encouragement for reading the KJV much appreciated.
I once knew a believer by the name of Mario, who was functionally illiterate when he surrendered to Jesus. He asked the Lord to help him learn how to read. In 1975 he began to learn how to read and write with the Holy Ghost and a King James Version. He did this in his prison cell, alone with the Lord. I met him in 1991. He had a 3rd grade education, but I never knew (before or after) any one that understood the Bible better than Mario.
When people tell me they can't understand the KJV, I always tell them about Mario.
Thank you Pastor for doing these videos. It is refreshing to see young people who love the KJV. GREAT STUFF!!!
Have you seen the Apostolic Bible Polyglot? It is an interlinear Bible, that has all the texts which the Alexandrian texts remove. I purchased a copy. Waiting for it to arrive. I looked into it. It is definitely Byzantine. I am excited to see it. God's best to you and yours Pastor.
Amen Pastor, that is amazing! Very good anecdote and there are many more like it! I have heard of the Apostolic polyglot Bible, looks interesting. My only critique is the Greek is unaccented, which makes it less than a pleasure to read.
We are transitioning from ESV to TR with MEV and KJV. what are your thoughts on MEV?
I do not know too much about the MEV. Seems to be mostly faithful. Jeff Riddle has a word magazine review of the MEV.
Definitely can say after reading the kjv for 4 years straight that I actually believe its easier to read and understand than the modern versions. I've been reading through an esv this year and at times I come across words that I have to pull a dictionary out for. And yet when i look back at the same verses in the kjv the kjv actually rendered it with an easily understood word...makes no sense...anyways The kjv isn't that hard to read guys...that being said I actually find at times in the geneva bible it's easier to read than the kjv. Lol.
What advice do you give in trying to talk to a KJV Onlyist?
For example, one person argued with me about the nephilim and how they were Sethites because of the “sons of god” wording in the KJV. I can’t even explain to him anything about the original languages because he believes that the KJV English is now how the Bible is meant to be understood. For him, the English translation now supersedes the original
That passage in particular doesn't have much to do with translation issues anyway, people have argued forever as to what the Nephilim were. It comes down to hermeneutics and interpretive principles. So the best way is to argue from scripture with scripture as to its meaning. The "sons of God" is what the Hebrew says in that place. The issue isn't the KJV rendering, it comes down to how one interprets it.
Have you ever heard of the book, "English for Bible Readers" by Paul W. Scott? I found it very helpful and so should others. He talks a little about the history of English Bibles and goes over some reasons why he uses the KJV, etc. but it's mostly a book explaining English grammar specifically applied to the King James. Though you should also know that he's not a Calvinist and gives one example arguing against Calvinism, so you'll have to take that with a grain of salt, but otherwise you and your church would probably benefit from it.
Thomas Nelson put out the KJV Reference Giant Print. It has an asterisk beside each archaic word and you just look in the center column and BAMB--you got it! It is a very readable Bible and comes in goatskin leather--all at a very reasonable price, great deal for the money.
Yeah its a beautiful bible. A few people in my congregation have it and love it. The marginal notes help them a bunch.
What would be the point of using a translation you need a primer to read?
Darnell Wesh exactly. Good thing you don't need one for the KJV. Only someone who has never read the KJV would think that.
@@DaneKristjan Dane, I am well versed in the KJV. I just don't think that you should encourage people to read bibles that they will struggle with comprehending for matters that are inconsequential to your average Christian.
Darnell Wesh They are not going to struggle to the point that they can't read it. And the reasons are not inconsequential. You can disagree that the reasons are correct, but it's dishonest to say they are inconsequential.
@@DaneKristjan That's your opinion. Whether or not they will struggle depends on their reading comprehension and several other factors (I'm speaking of native English speakers). I am not saying that differences between the KJV and Modern Versions aren't important. What I am saying is that to the average lay person these matters aren't ever really considered. Not only that, but even for those who are aware of translation issues, their Christianity isn't go to be anymore different than their brothers and sisters who use the ESV. Are you suggesting that Christianity, I'm speaking orthodoxy/orthopraxy, is going to be different for someone reading a KJV as opposed to the NASB? We both know the answer is no. Unless they become a KJV-onlyist, which you're not about. So why the big push?
Darnell Wesh it’s weird to me that it’s always people who claim to be well versed in the KJV who say you shouldn’t read it
First published in 1611? Come again?
WasLostButNowAmFound the King James Version. Which was published in 1611. That was the first edition.
@@DaneKristjan Authorised version was in 1611. There are earlier versions of the King James Bible. So we are talking about the AV then.
WasLostButNowAmFound what in the world are you talking about. The KJV did not exist until it was made in 1611