I read from "The Letter of Peter to James" in After the New Testament: 100-300 C.E.: A Reader In Early Christianity by Dr Bart D. Ehrman www.amazon.co....
*Al An'aam 6:112* _Likewise did We make for every Messenger _*_an enemy_*_ - evil ones among men and jinns, _*_inspiring each other with flowery discourses by way of deception_*_ . If thy Lord had so planned, they would not have done it: so _*_leave them and their inventions alone_*
@@BloggingTheology this enforces the meaning of Pre-Destiny. So, they have a free will but God willed their free will actions to be made into existence.
@@HD13POWER i dont see it that way. It implies exactly free will. For if God doesnt give us human free will, we will all be submitting to the will of God exactly like angels.
@@Dani-zg7fr So, did He will their actions to be in existence or He didn't will their actions to become into existence? If He willed their free will action to become into existence. Did He know their free will actions will be that way or He was surprised?
Paul teaching is suspicious in many ways, such as: - he was enemy of Jesus followers - then claimed that Jesus came in his vision (after Jesus died) and give him new teaching, almost completely opposite to Jesus teaching in his lifetime.
I wouldn't say complete opposite, but he clearly was weaving in many things and laying down specific laws of what people should and shouldn't do in various situations. It is suspicious.
Yes this clearly shows that Paul (a man who never met Jesus) was preaching a new religion that was after the death of Jesus and this new religion was the opposite of what Jesus had taught. The Muslims have held this view from day one 1400 years ago and Bart erhman and nearly all of the Christian academics have come to the same conclusions as the Muslims only very recently.
crucifiction attempt on Jesus to remove laws will make his ppl lose blessings in mathew 21 :43 & jeremia 31 :36. pauls in acts 9 : 3 saw devil of luke 10 :18 went to Arabia, is lawless false prophet in mathew 24 :11 thought he's who will correct him - comforter in John 1 :21 & 16 :8, Prophet law giver like Musa is Muhammad peace and blessings on him! Jesus is only sent to his tribe, after mark 16 : 8 Jesus's 2nd appearance saying he's sent for the world is an admitted fabrication. isaiah 49 says Jesus will leave his tribe and return following the light of nations of isaiah 42, a new covenent, from the Arab Prophet from mt selah Medina, this is clearly Islam. Abraham wasn't from juda, juda came like 2 centuries later, Ibrahim and Ismael were Muslims who built the Kaba, even Jacob imitates the hajj in genesis 28!
Jesus said God prefers mercy over sacrifice in mathew 9 & 12, but paul in hebrews 9 says God can't forgive without a sacrifice. this shows 2, Paul contradicts Jesus & paul degrades God's forgiveness to intro a new god, showing why polytheism is the worst sin, it degrades God's Attributes! - *Best response to paulines, we follow Jesus as we believe God can forgive without a sacrifice, using the verse above, it's over!* this is on top of christian's contradictions of Allah's Tawhid Asma wa Siffat and historical contradictions with esp. with the law. isaiah 43 : 10 says no new God will form, so john 1 is wrong (& likely an addition due to different writing style), the word is God's attribute in correct translation. It says word became flesh but job 25 :4 shows God can't come from a womb as whats from a womb is impure while God's word called pure in psalms 116 : 140 - Your word is pure! Jesus is a created from the Word of God, He's not an attribute of God. psalms 22 and 91 predicts Jesus is saved matching Quran 4 : 137.
@Jomy Mathew A comparison between the Bible and The Holy Quran. The Bible 1. The oral Injeel preached by Jesus was in a dead language ancient aramaic, while the gospels were written in latin and greek, which are gentiles language. 2. Jesus never intended his message for gentiles as he was sent by God only for the Jews. 3. The 4 supposed authors of the selected gospels by council of nicea were all anonymous. 4. The council of nicea destroyed all gospels that did not conform to emperor constantine wishes. They included gospels that told Jesus was not crucified. 5. The writing styles are wildly fluctuating. Some may appear like words of God but many others read like ancient porn, sexual escapades and murderous tales. There are 30 episodes of literally eating shit! 6. As a result the Bible contradicts itself like crazy. 7. There are many versions of the bible, the douay, KJV, standard revised versions and many more including the latest the QUEEN JAMES VERSION for homosexuals! All of them have different number of books. Some books were taken out or put in according to the situation. 8. As a result nobody memorise the entire bibles word for word by heart. 9. The standard language for any bible reference today is in english which itself is a fairly new developed language. So when you have translations upon translations from one language to others there are bound to be mistakes and lost original meanings. And many people only rely on translations not knowing the original language. 10. As a result, even their own doctors of divinity admitted that there are so many serious mistakes in the bible although how they make it sound irrelevant and puny are all down to their remarkable skills of talking nonsense to sound like perfect sense. Masters of bullshit. The Holy Quran. 1. Sent down in arabic which is a living language. 2. Perfectly protected by God with not a single letter altered since 1400 years ago. 3.The literary style is consistent. 4. The multi faceted miracles built in are irrefutable proof of its divine origins. Be it scientific, historical, mathematical, structural which confirms its authenticity. As Dr Maurice Bucaille wrote in his international bestseller classic book ' The Quran, The Bible and Science ' he found that the Quran is in perfect accordance with science. 5. It is memorised by heart by millions of people of all races around the world. Surely this is another miracle. If all copies of the Quran are destroyed, rest assured there will be a perfect replacement anytime without any doubts whatsoever. 6. It is the only book on earth that challenges all mankind and djinns combined to come up with a single chapter that is comparable to the Quran. And if they try but will surely fail Allah promised that hellfire awaits them. 7. Some of the greatest playwrights, poets and authors in history are in awe of the Quran. They include George Bernard Shaw, Goethe,Thomas Carlyle and many others.
I don't paul was a very nice person, he also he seemed to dislike humankind but he was the one who really turned the resurection story into something theologically brilliant by making it god/heaven based in a sense the act gave humans a clean slate to go to heaven. It does amuse me muslims and christians are so competitive with who is correct, both religions have huge amount myth and the bible/quran are written by man and man alone
@@jamesupton4996 That’s a possibility for any UA-camr, however no one really can refute Paul W. here because he Isn’t selective-he looks at many credible courses and subscribes to the logical accepted conclusions
@@Commander-Arcamus- he follows the consensus of the scholars and logic not his whims, nor illogical incoherent beliefs. It's is blatentely obvious that Orthodox, Catholic and Protestant Christianity comes from the mind of a liar, Paul of Tarsus and that the religion of Jesus (PUH) was Unitarian and close to Judaism.
@@karimb972 How the origin of the Bible and it’s creator Paul are false: The Bible was first WRITTEN by ONE man (Paul) a SIGNIFICANT time (20 years) after Jesus “death” ie a NON-EYEWITNESS. Paul’s’ only claim to authority is a story he told that he met Jesus on the road to Damascus. There is no other source to confirm his story so his word is all that supports it. He claims In Galatians 1:11-12, that he received divine revelation from Jesus. This means all of Paul’s writings must be free from error, otherwise he lied and did not meet nor was inspired by Jesus. Furthermore, Paul made a false prophecy: 1 Corinthians 15:51-52 states not everyone in his time will die before the end of the world and return of Jesus. This is a false prophecy because the world is still alive. Conclusion: Paul was a liar and the origin of the NT was falsified. This is supported by NT Scholar C.K Barrett in first epistle to the Corinthians P. 381. C.S Lewis states about a similar world ending prophecy in Mark 13:30 that it is “the most embarrassing verse in the Bible” in The worlds last night and other essays, P.97. Christians will say this prophecy is false if we understand it literally. If we understood it figuratively then it can work with impacting future people. However if we look at other passages, we can confirm Paul meant his prophecy literally. 1 Corinthians 7:28-31 clearly tells people at the time of Paul to live as if immediate destruction is coming. He used the words “from now on”, “time is short”, and the “world is passing away”. In this verse, Paul urges people to be celibate, emotionless, and ascetic. It makes no sense for Paul to think people ought to behave this way and thrive for 2000 years especially when told to be celibate under the assumption the end of the world would happen in that lifetime. Deuteronomy 18:22 states that if a prophecy did not come true spoken in the name of the Lord, it did not come from the Lord. This shows that Paul did not speak truthful and was not inspired by God. Therefore-Paul was a false apostle. Furthermore, Paul misquoted scripture: Deuteronomy 30:14 states to obey the law. Paul quotes the first quarter of the verse here yet abrogated the obedience command in Romans 10:8-10. So Paul is preaching the exact opposite of what the OT states. Paul is pushing only for salvation via faith but the OT makes it clear that works is extremely important. Another clear contradiction. Furthermore, Paul misinterpreted scripture: Another of Paul’s core teachings stress that all God’s covenantal promises to Abraham were fulfilled by the coming of Jesus. “The promises were spoken to Abraham and to his seed. Scripture does not say “and to seeds,” meaning many people, but “and to your seed,” meaning one person, who is Christ.” (Galatians 3:16.) Here, Paul is making the argument that god’s promise to Abraham did not speak of seeds in the plural but rather seed in the singular and concludes the single seed is a reference to just one man (Jesus). Genesis 17:19 used the Hebrew word for seed “Zera” which serves as a collective noun that can be used to refer to one or multiple descendants. It depends on the context of the scripture. Similar to the English word sheep which can refer to one or many sheep. So now the question is, how do we know if the context is different and Genesis is talking about one or multiple seeds? In Genesis 13:16, God promised here that Abraham would be blessed with a multitude of descendants likening the “seed” to the dust of the earth. Therefore the correct context of the seed is not singular as Paul incorrectly interpreted it but plural. Furthermore, Paul used wrong scripture: Paul taught that the nation of Israel will be saved from its sins via Jesus. (Romans 11:26). Paul quoted this from the Old Testament book of Isaiah 59:20. There is a clear mismatch here: In Romans, Paul states the savior will remove sin from Israel: “Godlessness away from Jacob”. Isaiah however states the savior will come to Israel after repentance from sin. So why the confusion? Paul seems to have been quoting from the Septuagint. (Isaiah 59:20). Paul’s quote in Romans aligns closely to the Greek Septuagint. However, there are in fact, two variant readings of the Old Testament. There is the Hebrew, and there is also the Greek Septuagint that Paul clearly quotes from in Romans. There is powerful evidence that the Greek Septuagint contains a later reading due to the Dead Sea scrolls which serve as the oldest surviving manuscripts for the Old Testament support the reading that is found in the Hebrew Scriptures. This means when Paul decided to quote from the Greek Septuagint, he unknowingly used the later incorrect reading. Clearly, “God” would not have inspired him to make this mistake. Furthermore, Paul distorted scripture: Paul argued that nobody can attain righteousness through the works of the Mosaic law. (Romans 3:10-20). Here, Paul quotes 6 separate passages from the Old Testament books of Psalms and Isaiah. The first 3 verses are from Psalm 14:2-3, the next 2 are from Psalm 5:9, the next 1 is from Psalm 140:3, the next 1 is from Psalm 10:7, the next 1 is from Isaiah 59:7-8, the next 1 is from Psalm 36:1. Paul strung these passages together to appear as one quote. Looking at Paul’s quotation of Psalm 14:2-3 in Romans 3:10-20, we see in the original passage in Psalm 14:1-5, it’s talking about those who say “there is no God”. These are the same people said to “do no good”. Such evil doers are then contrasted with a second group of people referred to as “my people” who are said to be the company of the righteous. Paul seems to have distorted this passage. It does NOT say as Paul quotes it “that no human being is righteous, not even one”, rather it says, that those who deny god are not righteous. Furthermore, Paul employs scriptural contradiction: Paul gave a reason as to why God revealed the law to Moses and the Israelites in (Romans 3:19). According to Paul, the law was reveled to make us realize that it is impossible to keep and that we are all guilty before god. If we go back to the Old Testament regarding what God has to say about the law we will find that God says the law is “not too difficult for you or beyond your reach….” (Deuteronomy 30:11-14). This is the complete opposite of what Paul claimed in Romans 3:19. Moreover, Paul has extremely negative things to say about the law. He called it a curse in Galatians 3:10 and also called his last efforts of keeping the law as “garbage” in Philippians 3:5-8. This negative criticism is at odds with what the Old Testament teaches as made apparent in Deuteronomy 30:16. This passage from Deuteronomy states that the law will allow one to live and increase and will be blessed. Paul’s teaching clearly contradict the Old Testament teachings on many aspects here in opposition to the God that inspired the Old Testament. Furthermore, Paul utilizes deception: The Bible says that towards the end of his ministerial career, Paul visited Jerusalem which was home to 1000’s of Christians who obeyed the law of Moses. In fact, senior Christians directly confronted Paul on rumors he was preaching against the law of Moses. We see this in Acts 21:18-21. Now we notice if Paul was truly a genuine apostle, we should be expecting him to be forthcoming about his true beliefs and teachings. If we see how Paul act in reality, we see a completely hypocritical story. We see this in Acts 21:22-26 in which the senior Christians in Jerusalem commanded Paul to undergo a public head shaving ritual that was derived from the law of Moses. Here, Paul submissively complied with their command effectively denying the rumors that he preached against the law of Moses. In the aforementioned point, we see Paul’s extreme negative reaction to the law of Moses (calling it a curse and efforts to obey it as garbage). Therefore, by conducting himself in the manner of obeying the head shaving command from the Old Testament, yet enacting clear animosity and opposition to it, Paul reveals his true nature of being a 2-faces hypocrite as he showed one side to the senior Christians with his behavior and another side in his writings. Paul states that Jews are equal to non Jews in Galatians 3:27-28 and are not bound to keep any of the Mosiac laws so that they can serve in the way of the spirit in Romans 7:6. Here, we can see very clearly Paul taught the exact things he was accused of and deceptively denied them regardless. Conclusion: Via Paul’s own writings in Romans, Galatians, Philippians, 1 Corinthians, Acts… we find a plethora of red flags including: False prophecies Misquotations Misinterpretations Wrong scriptures Distortion Contradictions Deception Not only does this solidify the fact that Paul was not a trustworthy figure, this also shows the Bible has been infected by his writings with over half of its books being attributed to him. So when one reads the Bible to learn about Jesus, they are using the lens of Paul who has been proven to be an unreliable source. This only adds on to the fact, Paul was never with Jesus and wrote 20 years after Jesus further solidifying unreliability and inauthenticity. ***If Paul never existed, what would Christians believe?
I am surprised that Paul the video author has even kept this video up. He should delete it. It neutralizes one of his most important pieces of ammunition against the Bible and Christianity- the lateness of the Gospel writings. Interesting. But just to directly respond to your comment this is not news to the history of christianity. Peter had that view we always knew and Paul though a Jew had another view. God had to speak directly to Peter about delinking Judaism from this new form of initiation. All these things are attested to in the writing the Acts of the apostles. Why all this shock and awe?
@@teachmetheway7081 Sounds more like posthoc rationalization geared toward harmonizing two separate groups to me. But what you say is true, why does Jesus himself in Matthew 15:24 ‘But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.’?
@@Lobsterwithinternet while a bit rhetorical i ask you: who are the lost sheep of the house of Israel? And then where does he send his disciples to reap? What was the limit of his instruction? Who are the other sheep not of this fold he refers to(i leave chapter and verse to you)?
@@Lobsterwithinternet "posthoc rationalization ..." hmmm? Consider muhammad had to use suasion of varying types to grow his band. Jesus' followers grew it is written firstly by the thousands among jews and then similarly the gentiles. If you believe Jesus never intended why then did it happen at all and to catch on so rapidly among a gentile populace. If it weren't intended to be so then you must challenge peter not paul for his preaching it was that brought the gentiles in. And given the muslim channel this is what of posthoc islam. Who was Muhammad sent to? Didn't the quran say Allah sends his messenger in the language of the target audience? Why then all these non arabic speaking muslims? Interesting. posthoc indeed
look this verse please Revelation 14:12 12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.
@@TalibAlAminDhakir Treathening people with hell, or embracing grace. Paul has the better but there are so much man-made stories in both books there is simply no overall truth in both.
I have seen Bart Ehrman's debate with Christians leaders- he is so well informed and shows how much work he had done to find the truth. but people still reject the truth. he is remarkable researcher biblical scholar and writer and speaker.
Ehrman is an atheist, so the "truth" he talks about is that there is no God. Logically no human can be a prophet of a God that does not exist. So the truth according to Ehrman is that Mohammed must be a false prophet. Is that the truth you accept?
@@johnzuma4688 Bart Ehrman never said he doesn't believe in GOD. he said He doesn't believe in Christian God. There are several videos, he said these words. Don't lie, I know it's a conservative Christian trait to lie , deny the truth and always spoil for fight, be hostile who is showing the truth, but it is very ANYOYNG .
To all Christians: I have knew what the main faith of your religion , i mean the basics faith which Jesus didnt talk about it ( original sin + divinity + trinity ) all of these were by Paul Not Jesus. i reject Christianity bcz Jesus even didn't say anything about basics of Christianity just Paul who said these things. Paul lied about jesus, Paul changed the Ten Commandments of God (Birth of christianity ) and he changed the original message of Jesus. paul who appointed himself to be a prophet and changed Jesus teachings entirely. Of course Jesus he is the way, and no one will get to the father if they don't follow Jesus teachings, and NOT the teachings of Paul. i want you all to come back to the true teachings of Jesus (pbuh) and all the prophets then STOP following what paul taught (who hated Christianity and use to be a bounty hunter of Christians) "jesus never said iam God or Worship Me" u can't say clear verses without vague from Jesus's mouth. but what do you have other than quoting what a self appointed prophet (Paul) said? U just follow Paul Why u guys eat pig and drink wine when moses said don't do it? Are u saying jesus lied? Or you should admit that Paul are telling you lies. Do you follow jesus or paul or mathew.What jesus has commanded you do opposite. wrong doers. Paul the founder of Christianity. I pray for you to find the truth . May Allah guide you to it . Ameen I was just making things clear and speaking the truth ... In the words of all of the past Prophets, "May Peace be upon you!"
Jesus: what do you teach? "I want you to show mercy, not offer sacrifices. ' For I have come to call not those who think they are righteous, but those who know they are sinners." -Matthew 9:13 "I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.'' Luke 5:32 Disciples: what did Jesus teach? "Now repent of your sins and turn to God, so that your sins may be wiped away." -Acts 3: 19 Paul (Fake apostle): what did Jesus teach? "Christ died for our sins" -1corinthians 15-3 Who is the LIAR?! Paul the founder of Christianity. paul 💀🔥🔥🔥🔥you want to be with him?!!!
A very interesting comment. Christians love the verses you quote. They believe that the only way is by believing Jesus yet Jesus went to great lengths to tell people what God wanted. Matthew 5 is a blueprint to what God wants. I believe when Jesus said I am the way the truth and the life it wasn't an invitation to worship him but to follow his teaching as a Prophet and nothing more. Jesus was in essence a Muslim. He also challenged the teachings. He spoke of eating halal food. He said words to the affect that just because you don't eat unclean food doesn't make you clean I struggle everyday to please God, I struggle with thought and deed . Muslims call this struggle Jihad.
@You Say I spent 40 years like that. If I'm forgiven by Jesus then what happens when I don't show mercy or I judge. Sadly Christians get saved the proceed to judge others. Maybe Muslims do to. I struggle everyday with faith I struggle everyday to be a person pleasing to God. Ego is a dirty word
@@amry2050 "Who is the LIAR?!" You. You were clearly never a Christian and you regurgitate Ahmed Deedat's nonsense the way that scarcely anyone but a Muslim raised in such idiocy could have. Also, early Islamic tradition affirms that Paul was a true apostle of Jesus. See Ibn Kathir on Q. 36:14 and al-Qurtubi on 61:14.
Great video. I think you should do a video on what points Christians and Muslims can agree, and work together. Like conservative family values, social mores etc.
2 Peter 3:14-16 New International Version >> 14 So then, dear friends, since you are looking forward to this, make every effort to be found spotless, blameless and at peace with him. 15 Bear in mind that our Lord’s patience means salvation, just as our dear brother Paul also wrote you with the wisdom that God gave him. 16 He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters. His letters contain some things that are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the other Scriptures, to their own destruction.
James was Zaddik, considered by all to be, the most righteous man of his generation---to characterize him as illiterate is inaccurate ---and follows in line with the Roman Empire's New Testament choice of guidance through Saul of Tarsus (Paul), the Herodian, educated but teaching his own teaching.
Thanksm Gary--->Have you ever wondered (through Grace-Light) via accurate intuition that Saul received his instruction from a demigod.--certainly, when listing YHWH's traits we see a demigod's fury and duality
God bless you Paul! (Our friend Paul from UA-cam). We don’t have to dismiss Peter’s letter saying they couldn’t write. In olden times they have scribes (writers) who were hired to write letters and write down teachings. Peter’s letter most like was Peter’s letter but it was written by his command.
I discovered the truth about the early Christian writings like Bart earman also, but it did not cause me to denounce my faith like he did, so this tells me B.E was not with the Holy Spirit to begin with.
This may be a "theological" approach but never a scientific one as to your opinion everything not corresponding to church doctrines is of evil or more poetically: "What must not be cannot be" or originally: "Nicht sein kann, was nicht sein darf"!
@@WMedl Well sure friend. If that is what floats your boat... no argument from me. But a word of advice.... things are not what they seem. What is inside your head is not whats inside mine, or Joe Bloggs even for that matter. This does not shy away from one pure and unchangeable fact, scientific or theological, and this is.... *There can only be one truth* Does either of us have the truth? No, what you say and what I say and what Joe Bloggs says are only opinion.
if you "discovered the truth", what did that mean? you found out that Paul had obscured Jesus' message to create a church hierarchy he never intended, brought in original sin to control and shame people and... you still went along with it?
Much of paul's teachings are absolutely opposite to that of Moses, the prophets, the apostles of Christ, and to that of Christ. Paul teahing against yhe law, romans 3:20 Everyone else teaches to obey the law. Moses, Deuteronomy 11:1 David, Psalm 111:7-8 Solomon, Proverbs 28:9 Christ, Mathews 4:4 Peter, 2 Peters 2:21 James, James Acts 21:21
I'm picking up a lot of enthusiasm among Muslims for these blogs. Understandable, considering that the implication, intentional or otherwise, is hostility toward mainstream Pauline Christianity. Personally, though an Atheist, who shares the views of the late Christopher Hitchens on Islam, and the more sectarian and intolerant aspects of all faiths, I would be proud to call myself a Christian by culture. I have great respect for the accumulated wisdom of Judeo Christianity, and by that I mean Pauline Christianity. I don't care about the dogmatic claims to authenticity of this or that apostle two thousand years ago. For me, the great gift of Paul was to give Jesus to all who wanted to accept his teachings, regardless of their race or creed. He rescued it from being a sect exclusively for one people, and made it possible for Jesus's message to evolve into something universal, for all people, should they wish to receive it.
2 Peter 3:15-16 And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation: even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you. As also in all his epistles speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to understand, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction. (The law was fulfilled at the cross when Jesus died and gave Himself as a ransom for all the sins of the world. That's why in John 19:30 Jesus said, It is finished the moment before He died on the cross.)
The words "hard to understand" is a mistranslation from the original Greek word Disnoestas, which means nonsensical or destructive sense. The translators wanted their agenda by twisting these words, among many others.
Dear Paul May God Bless you for the fantastic insight and true understanding you share . Through actual research and using an open mind You have managed to make people think ... and not blindly follow .
I certainly don’t believe that that letter to James was written by the apostle Peter , if you read ll Peter 3:15 &16 testifies that Paul was NOT an Enemy of Peter !
No but it says he was wise not inspired... a brother not an apostle.... confusing... and misleading to those who were perishing because of how they used him to negate the commandments (especially about idolatry and rejection of Sabbath).
@@snam85 Ehrman? His stuff is largely nonsense. He made a name for himself off of sensationalizing “mistakes” in the Bible. Not enough room to elaborate
Book of Acts... History... James declared that the gentiles need not be circumcised. No contradiction... Saved by Grace through Faith Follow the law through Love, by the Holy Spirit Who is writing it on our hearts... ❤️
No, James did not declare that the gentiles should not be circumcised, this is what paul says in 1 cor 7:19. James instead gave four things to start with Acts 15:19-20 and Acts 15:28-29 and then Acts 21:25 when paul failed to teach what James said should be taught. James implied the law of Moses would be read to them every sabbath as they've always done throughout the generations. paul's lawless teaching about not observing circumcision flies in the face in YHWH in particular judgements such as Ezekiel 44:7 and 44:9. paul's teaching caused an uncircumcised ephesian student (of paul's) named Trophimus to pass beyond the dividing barrier wall into the inner sanctum of Jerusalem temple in 58 AD (Acts 21:21-28),12 years after the defilement in 70 AD the temple fell to Roman Siege. This is why the Jews wanted him dead so bad, he defiled the temple with a greek which goes against YHWH's desires, on top of teaching the Jews who remained with the gentiles to forsake moses and even the everlasting covenant of circumcision - which if a Jew neglected would cut them off from YHWH (Gen 17:4-14 everlasting covenant). This non circumcision business is all paulian. James the Tzaddik, brother of Jesus and first Bishop of the Jerusalem church was known as a more strict observer of Torah than most Jews - paul's teaching is not his doctrine, because that same exact teaching is what caused paul to become guilty of a crime worthy of death.
Thank you, this is so interesting. I did not study Theology so I cannot make any scholarly judgments but I have a theory that Paul was an agent of either Rome or the Sanhedrin which is why Peter describing him as his enemy is really interesting to me.
Thank you for these videos.You have made early christianity very clear to us.Paul never wanted to learn about the messiah from any of the disciples of Jesus.He put forward his own thoughts about the religion and made the religion easy for all.All this against the religion taught by Jesus.
That is really wrong. According to Acts he spent three years in Arabia before preching to the Jews and then turning to the Gentiles He wasn't sitting in a cave, he had become an accepted part of the Chriatian community. So he was learning e.g..His account of the insittution of the Eucharist is almost word for word the same as the account in the gospels. Now you - kindly - explain to me how Islam came to believe in the Virgin Bith of Isa. Where did that come from?
Just a thought that came to my mind...you say that it is unlikely Peter would have written that letter as he was most likely illiterate. But in those days surely a person would have gone to a person who could write and asked them to write any letters. So the origin is still Peter although he didn’t actually pen the letter himself. Just something that came to my mind as a newcomer to this kind of material. Loving your videos. Thank you.
If that letter was written by or via Peter then it will deal a blow to Paul's assertions about the times when the gospels were written. If Peter did write it he is making reference verbatim to Matthew's gospel. for that to be true obviously Matthew's gospel has to be extant. Paul has faithfully said to you and other viewers that the gospels were written in the latter part of the first century between 70 - 100 AD Mark being first. therefore if Matthew is to come after and Peter is still writing (quite notably from the grave) it would PUN INTENDED put all the nails into the coffin of Paul's desire to emasculate the gospel's via time criticism. Most safely said Peter died between 64 - 68 AD. The book of acts would have been written nevertheless before 64 AD quite safely said because it omits (itself being a history of the first christians) the major event of the burning of Rome and ends rather abruptly. How can Peter write a letter about a book that existed between 70 - 100 AD when Peter dies before 70 AD? Now i don't accept this notion. It is very silly to be honest but it is what Paul as an anti-christian commentator prefers. Anything to falsify the new testament.
Added to which the Jerusalem council addressing this issue by i believe around 50 AD would place this letter earlier than 50 AD but certainly no later. The implication is that the gospel of Matthew and therefore Mark would have to be existent before 50 AD. Easily I would say between 35 - 45 AD. This would further put a nail in the coffin of Paul's and Bart Ehrman's claims about the late writing of the gospels.
to be honest I would like this letter to be real. The same Peter would then be shown to have changed his mind at the Jerusalem council. And please note the decision of this Jerusalem council to basically lay no burden on the gentiles other than keeping from certain things etc., Remember Jesus says to them whatever they bind on earth is bound in heaven. and whatever is loose on earth is loosed in heaven. He gave them freedom to deliberate yet obviously within the limits of his teaching. Whatever those teaching were (I think Paul video guy would like that ending)
Paul is actually a very shady and ambiguous character, and very controversial. You might call him the mystery man of the New Testament. And he was never a direct, personal disciple of Jesus, by the way...
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14 So then, dear friends, since you are looking forward to this, make every effort to be found spotless, blameless(AA) and at peace with him. 15 Bear in mind that our Lord’s patience(AB) means salvation,(AC) just as our dear brother Paul also wrote you with the wisdom that God gave him.(AD) 16 He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters. His letters contain some things that are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable(AE) people distort,(AF) as they do the other Scriptures,(AG) to their own destruction. 17 Therefore, dear friends, since you have been forewarned, be on your guard(AH) so that you may not be carried away by the error(AI) of the lawless(AJ) and fall from your secure position.(AK) 18 But grow in the grace(AL) and knowledge(AM) of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.(AN) To him be glory both now and forever! Amen.(AO)
@@deesott5123 That's an excellent quotation. Peter and Paul were at odds sometimes, as was Peter and our Lord. But they both understood 'By this shall all men know that you are my disciples: that ye love one another.'
Why would I follow a satan over Christ? Christ is my Lord and Savior and he condemend false prophet like muhammed. Muhammed was worst of human being and allah was satan that deceived billions of people around the world. I left islam and found Christ amen!
"Peter went up on the flat roof to pray. It was about noon, 10 and he was hungry. But while a meal was being prepared, he fell into a trance. 11 He saw the sky open, and something like a large sheet was let down by its four corners. 12 In the sheet were all sorts of animals, reptiles, and birds. 13 Then a voice said to him, “Get up, Peter; kill and eat them.” 14 “No, Lord,” Peter declared. “I have never eaten anything that our Jewish laws have declared impure and unclean.[b]” 15 But the voice spoke again: “Do not call something unclean if God has made it clean.” 16 The same vision was repeated three times. Then the sheet was suddenly pulled up to heaven."Acts 10
Thank you Paul. Bart Ehrman is a serious man with very straight forward confrontational attitude when dealing with Christian confused creed and methodology.
When we are dealing with the transcendent which/who is ineffable and surpasses the range of all huiman thought and speech, you must expect a certain amount of mental bafflement. Pretending that you have one book which makes it all clear is not going to help.
But still..they will never come to the truth(true doctrine)...1 were speaking of circumcision(The Law)...Saul...preaching to the Gentile (Gospel of Grace)
This proves Peter calling Paul beloved brother and talking favourably about his difficult letters is a corruption and interpolation in our Bibles by Greek and Roman scribes
Great sincere effort by brother Paul to enlighten us through best available writings by prominent Scholars, so no one can misguide and manipulate the masses. My humble request to brother Paul to read some verses from new testament whenever you give references to boost and deepens the viewers understanding.
There are many who have addressed your questions. You must Listen to Mr Deedat addressing all these that u wrote. The Priests have raised them and he addressed them and none of them refuted the answers at least on the debates I saw. But God knows best.
What prophet in the Bible continually has to State “I am not lying?” What prophet constantly uses false humility to tell people he is an apostle. Were the Apostles those who had been with Jesus
I have been watching Bart Ehrman's lecture videos and interviews for a time now .. and always gets me appalled by how the christians rather warm reactions and acceptance towards him .. for so many reasons : 1. Because in many essential parts of his subjects about the bible (which basically doubting the originallity & preserverence of the bible and so the foundation of it's theology as well ... and back it up with facts) is actually well known within the scholars of the bible but not their common people. Shouldnt the knowing people tell those common people about it ? out loud ? coz this is a serious matter isnt it ? why keeping as if it should be a secret for all this time ? 2. The christians warm attitude and acceptance to him .. even though he basically slamming the facts about the bible to their faces .. while we .. muslims already told them these things for centuries and all we get are animosity & disbelief ... how that work in the mind of the christians are beyond me. Isn't it not apparent .. clearly .. from their questions to Bart Ehrman is in different nature than those given to muslims (such as videos of Ahmed Deedat, Zakir Naik or on most Da'wah videos at Speaker Corners) .. those questions mostly are not an attempt to "bash" Bart Ehrman for what he says .. but when they questioned a muslims on the same subject .. most of the time they do. 3. The fact that .. it seems to me that the christians feels okay when someone from their community gone to agnotism and then atheism (as Bart Ehrman say himself) after he became aware of the facts about the bible .. but not when someone acknowledge these same facts and revert themself to Islam.
It is worth noting that in the English language all of the days of the week are actually named after Pagan deities from Northern European cults. For example, Monday, is from‘Moon’ as some of the northern European Pagans used to worship the Moon on this day. Thursday is from the Nordic god Thor; Friday is from the Nordic god Freyr;Saturday is derived from the Roman god Saturn and possiblySaturnalia which was another Roman “celebration” which involved debauchery and inebriation. But the most important pagan naming for a week day is with Sunday derived from the Roman sun god Solis Invictus, not from “son of god.” This is why later Christians, accommodating Romans and their culture, hence ‘Roman Catholicsim,’worship on ‘Sunday,’ s-u-n, not s-o-n. The 25th of December was also the birthday of Sol and was known as Natalis Solis Invicti which was a time of rejoicing, games, public frolics and inducement in slaves. Remember, these same Romans would later preside over the Council of Nicea, headed by the Pagan Roman Emperor, Constantine, who was himself considered to be an incarnation and embodiment of the sun god!! The Council of Nicea and other “councils” lead to the “official” and “orthodox” doctrines of which books should be placed into the Bible, the trinity and Jesus’ date of birth being fixed to the 25th of December.
What is the problem with the Church making use of what was avalable, culturally and lingistically for a higher purpose? As St Ambrose pointed out, when the Israelites left Egypt, they took spoils form the Egyptians.
And Paul of Tarsis would totally agree with you. Christendom the imposter and the prostitute usurped the real church, the body of believers, instituting decrees that were pagan.
Mentor. Yes, the biblical sabbath was not connected to a 7-day week like the Gregorian calendar. The New Moon marks the starting point for counting and the shabbat falls consistently on the 8th, 15th, 22nd, 29th of each month. Biblical text to support using the moon, a light in the heavens, to determine days include Genesis 1:14, Psalm 104:19. So, the Saturday vs Sunday arguement is null and void. The Lord's day, as the early disciples saw it was not a replacement for the day of rest, which was yhe Sabbath. However, the Sabbath and all of the law was fulfilled in Christ. The truth is, I believe, as you stated. The early disciples may have met 'on the Lord's (resurrection) day, the Sunday, but it was the prostitute church which instituted it. For, believers can and do meet any and every day.
And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you; As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction. Ye therefore, beloved, seeing ye know these things before, beware lest ye also, being led away with the error of the wicked, fall from your own stedfastness. But grow in grace, and in the knowledge of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. To him be glory both now and for ever. Amen. 2 Peter 3:15-18
Whilst it's clear that Pauline Christianity supplanted the early Jewish followers of Jesus. Unfortunately, it's difficult to trust the authenticity of early Christian writings which were borne out of mutual hatred. It's by God's grace that the Qur'an was revealed to set the record straight and re-align Christianity & Judaism to the strict monotheism of Abraham, which the Muslims were also instructed to follow.
@@johnzuma4688 I would reply if I thought you are a man of reason. It's difficult to cure blind faith but if you were interested in the truth you only have to read eminent Christian scholars, several of them presented on this channel. Peace.
You are a false man presenting himself otherwise. Your premise: anyone who read the Quran knows it is full of lies. Retort: you are a liar pretending to the reader you have read let alone understood the Quran. Last premise: Muhammad was a paedophile. Retort: again, you are a liar who covers up your fake knowledge using ‘polite’ to mask your failed education. Conclusion: just watch the video and don’t expose your failed education and fake knowledge.
Wow, I would love a copy of that letter to hang on my way lol. My channel is based on the false self-proclaimed apostle Paul, as I have been studying all Paul's letters for over 2 years and this is the 1st I am hearing of this letter. Thank you sir. Blessings.
Hi Paul - many Christians today use the “Golden Rule” of interpretation: seeking the spiritual intention of the words used, by allowing the Holly Spirit to aid understanding. Simplicity, kindness, love and forgiveness would be key words to guide our soul to reach an understanding. Intellect itself, often becomes a “stumbling block” to discovery. .. And so “not a tittle of the law shall pass” is true. But this is interpreted to mean that Jesus will personally manage / moderate His Father’s Commandments. Some Christians will even take this to mean: simply believing in Jesus’s name and it will be done - because, through the Holly Spirit, the law has been written into their hearts. One of Jesus’s criticisms regarding the law was that intellect had created too much confusion and burden for the common man to carry. . This is meant as a little food for thought, and a bit of understanding as to why Christians come to so many different understandings, based upon their individual maturity. I enjoy reading your posts.
'Not a jott or tittle will pass, until all is fulfilled'. 'Until all is fulfilled' is moderating phrase. And he fulfilled the law at the cross with his crucifixion. Because all the law and prophets were a shadow of the real substance that was to come in him; him being the real substance. With his blood he ratified a new covenant, unlike the old one of written code. But the introduction of the Holy Spirit living in a believer through faith, carrying in it the righteousness of God to impart into the heart. By faith no longer obeying an external set of rules. But obeyance to the indwelling Holy Spirit, the Spirit of Righteousness. This is the gospel that was brought through the Messiah's sacrifice and ratified by his blood. And gospel revealed to Paul, the apostle to the Gentiles. A gospel not understood by the world or the Roman church, the progenitor of Christendom.
Apparently the book being reviewed doesn't cover first century Christianity, which may have been quite different from second or third century. In certain epistles, Paul, Peter and Jude, more than hint that apostasy had already set-in. Also, we find in Acts, that Paul, earlier, met in Jerusalem with Peter and James, among other Christian leaders. In this meeting, apparently presided over by James, the council agreed upon offering the gospel to the Gentiles, and not requiring circumcision. In 2 Peter 3:15-16, Peter speaks of "our beloved brother Paul," allowing that some of Paul's teachings could be hard to understand, but does not attempt to disallow or refute those teachings. Interesting new book, however!
Thank you brother for these interesting informations. Jesus said that he comes not to abolish the Judaism law, but to fulfill it. But Paul didn't obey to this and has abolished the law. Nice continuation. Your fun from Morocco.
Yes but even Jesus view of fulfill didn’t mean he didn’t change or interpret things differently. He says clearly no eye for eye or vows. These are prescribed in the law Of Moses but denied in the law of Christ
Yes Jesus said to the gentile woman that He was only sent to the lost sheep of Israel. Then after talking to her he helps her. And He also talked to the Samaritan woman and stayed in the Samaritan town for two days. So though He said that it was only a test to see if she was humble enough to come to Him. She passed the humble test and so He ministered to her. Quit misrepresenting the stories told.
I just love your channel! You said you haven’t been in a book store in months, but every time I watch your lectures, you are always in your library haha, Have a beautiful Ramadan to all. Alhamdulilah Hirab Bila Alamin.
*J*SUS :* *"Ouwh, Israel, Follow Torah and Obey me !"* *P*UL :* *"Ouwh, People of The World, Ignore Torah...Ignore Jesus..... Follow me instead !".* -Meme
Peter is quoted quite clearly in the NT. Paul was "misunderstood" because his writings are "difficult to understand". Peter calls Paul "our beloved brother who "wrote with wisdom that God has given to him." Peter was against those who "twisted" (misinterpreted) what Paul wrote - "to their own destruction". Please stick to the Holy Scriptures.
He omits the fact that they had a Council to work out these differences and it is recorded in Acts. They came to a unified decision that gentiles only had to follow the 3 OT laws that applied to the sojourner living amongst the Israelites.
So where does that leave us gentiles? Who is the correct one to listen too? Does this cancel the teachings of Paul? I've always wondered about this question.
Christ chose Paul for you and I - the Gentiles, Acts 9:15, Rom 11:13, Rom 15:16. 2 Peter 3:15-16 confirms Paul. Gal 2:7-9 , other Apostles confirmed Paul. Even an evil spirit knows Paul, Acts 19:15. Some don't like Paul because Christ through him taught faith ALONE to enter Heaven. The big money comes from faith 'AND WORKS' so must destroy Paul somehow.
I do think the apostles DID know how to read and write because another Jewish scholar, Nehemiah Gordon, says that in rabbinic Judaism, those unschooled in the Oral Law are considered to be ‘UNschooled’.
Paul is not contradicting Christ when he speaks of Christ "abolishing the law" (Eph 2:15), but the fulfillment of the law and the tearing down of the partition (2 Cor 3) having the law written not on tablets of stone but by his Holy Spirit writing the law on our hearts, for the letter kills but the Spirit gives life. How much better to follow out of love than obey out of command.
Masha Allah. Another great work brother Paul. May Allah bless your good work. The Quran confirms that rhe earlier followers of Moses and Jesus are true believers in Allah. QS 3:199
The true believers and followers of Moshe (Moses) and Yahusha the Messiah (Jesus) who is the only begotten son of Yahuah (the almighty creator) follow the laws in the Torah. True believers would never follow Paul or Muhammad because its obvious that they were both liars. Paul invented Christianity as we know it today and its a false religion. The Catholic church and false prophet Muhammed and his 1st wife Kadija (who are all liars) invented Islam which is another false religion.
alhamdulillah your channel is very educational. reading books from different scholar is veey informative specialy books of bart erhman. may allah be please with you allahuakbar
Why would I follow a satan over Christ? Christ is my Lord and Savior and he condemend false prophet like muhammed. Muhammed was worst of human being and allah was satan that deceived billions of people around the world. I left islam and found Christ amen!
The 70 mentioned in this document refer to the 70 men that Moses selected to go with him to mount sinai and speak with Allah. This is mentioned in the Quran.
Before submitting my comment let me thank you for all the effort you put in enlightening us regarding Christ. Now, considering Peter and the apostles possibilities of writing, naturally I agree with you, however, couldn’t they have used scribes to write them? Surely there must have been one, or several among the followers. Also I wanted to ask, if Paul misguided us and the “true church” belongs only to those who follow the Jewish law, where does that leave us? Thanks again.
BArt Erhman through his scholarship and learning. As well as his well placed critique and analysis led me down a whole new path. If only more people within religion displayed that level of study and objectivity. And i mean all religions here, especially those textually based
@A drian Bart Erhman, great scholar of the Christian writings indeed. Agreed. The same greatness can't be attributed to his integrity. His UA-cam Channel / admin deletes / hides from public viewing the comments with the previous scriptures backing up the Muslim position. It's not a claim in thin air, YOU can actually test this claim. I'll give YOU points backed by the scriptures and YOU just copy paste those on Bart Erhman's UA-cam Channel. Try this exercise for like 1 hour a day for around 7-10 days as YOU discuss / reason / debate with the Christians OR the Jews. The more YOU are able to establish in front of the Christians and the Jews that the previous scriptures back up the Muslim, the quicker YOU will see YOUR comments get deleted / hidden from public viewing.
@A drian Jesus said and foretold as COMMANDED by THE ONLY TRUE GOD - THE FATHER: *BY THE FRUITS YE SHALL KNOW THEM* Radical Monotheism exactly like the Jewish Prophets / Jews to believe in a uniquely ONE GOD - without any partners or equals or like a three in one falsehood - the abom1nat10N called the doctrine of the Trinity - plus believing in the Messiah Jesus sent by God, and the essential consistency with his doctrine - the Muslim. The very words that the Father - THE ONLY TRUE GOD - COMMANDED Jesus Christ to say. The doctrine of THE ONLY TRUE GOD that HE COMMANDED Jesus Christ to give. The testimony of Jesus Christ on the Father: - The Only True God (John 17:3) - The Only One Who Knows The Hour (Mark 13:32) - Greater than I (John 14:28) - Greater than all (John 10:29) - My God and Your God (John 20:17) The doctrine of Jesus Christ = The doctrine of a Muslim. (Of course the term Father in the Jewish context. A figure of speech for their times. NOT that God has a literal Son. God has got Son by the Ton in the Bible.) Defenders of the true honor and status of Jesus Christ against lies and abominations which includes the Crucifixion. Continued.....
@A drian VERSUS Christianity more like the Greek and Roman doctrines and the pagan doctrines like "God" coming down in human form and human / blood sacrifice that pagans had going hand in hand with Paul's doctrines of easy fake salvation with blood of an innocent, making the Merciful God in to a blood thirsty vampire. The same people making Jesus Christ UNRIGHTEOUS by their position (believing in the fiction called Crucifixion) and making the Father a treacherous back-stabber by their position and doctrine. Christianity actually the followers of Paul. 2000 years ago, the Roman and Greek Empire with its culture and mythological and pagan roots already held the beliefs such as "God coming down in human form". So after witnessing just a single "miracle" from Paul the deceiver they were conforming to their already held beliefs. No wonder when they heard of this guy Jesus with all the stories of his miracles, it was very easy for them to take him as "Son of God" (and this concept later on developed in to taking him as God) as this already went hand in hand with their pagan and mythological belief system. Little wonder that those times and those places and people also had "Triads" and ancient "Trinities" and "God" in threes and stuff. Acts 14:11 When the crowd saw what Paul had done, they shouted in the Lycaonian language, "THE GODS HAVE COME DOWN to us IN HUMAN FORM!" *********** Then of course the abomination of the alleged human "sacrifice" of Jesus Christ making the Most Merciful in to some human blood thirsty vampire. Going against the very teachings of the true Prophets and that includes Jesus Christ. ******** Unfortunately, it was the Pauline Christianity and Pauline falsehoods, blended with pagan doctrine and backed up by the powerful Empire that eventually won out over the years and wiped out the Jewish movement of radical monotheism.
@@Truth-Is-a-Hard-Pill good points! I have discovered the entire NT is a total fabrication of the Arrius Piso and his family members. He was a Roman Emporer. He also wrote Esther and Josephus. From an ex-christian here, based on my own personal study of the NT.
A.major problem here.paul never taught the law was done away.. That man's teaching . Paul said things like the law is good holy and just. He taught that man's works could not get him saved therefore you just trying to keep the law I would not save you you would be under its curse but if you do as Jesus asked to obey the law and grow in it and use it to grow it will lead you to salvation that's what he was teaching it's man's works in men's ways they cannot get you saved it is very misunderstood probably the biggest misunderstanding in the Bible is that he did away with anything he did not. Otherwise he'd contradict Jesus Paul Peter and the rest of them which he did not they all were Jewish Christians who never left the Jewish faith they taught that Faith everyone that much is true and that's how it is today and should be today.
Why would I follow a satan over Christ? Christ is my Lord and Savior and he condemend false prophet like muhammed. Muhammed was worst of human being and allah was satan that deceived billions of people around the world. I left islam and found Christ amen!
The Christian Orthodoxy is far older than citations favored by Bart Erhman. If the early Church had felt angst against the Apostle Paul, the epistles of Peter lauding Paul could never have made it into the canon. Enjoy your elephant. 🐘
Heresies were adopted very early in the process. The Ebionites, perhaps the earliest Christians at Jerusalem were know to reject Paul and he was not part of their canon.
It will be nice Paul if you can give us a brief about the source Q Quelle. I read a bit of “ The lost gospel. The book of Q & Christian origins” by Burton L. Mack and I found it interesting . Here is a grasp of its introduction : Page 6-7 Once upon a time, before there were gospels of the kind familiar to readers of the New Testament, the first followers of Jesus wrote another kind of book. Instead of telling a dramatic story about Jesus’ life, their book contained only his teachings.
My understanding of Paul's teaching is that in Christ, the Law is fullfilled but only in Christ as that meets the conditions which Jesus spoke of in regard to the Law not passing away until all is fullfilled. Death is the fulfillment of the Law - Jesus showed us that in a literal sense. Unless a man loses his life to gain it, he will not find it (Eternal Life). This is what Paul argued with respect to being baptized into death and raised up again in the newness of Life. There is a natural body and there is a spiritual body yet that which is first, comes last and that which is last, comes first. He that is earthy is born into the natural body first but he that is heavenly is born into the spirit body last (1 Cor 15:44) and Colossians 2:11-12. I think the confusion is that many Jews tried to ditch the Law before being baptized into death with Christ and that is a violation of the teaching of Jesus as all would not be fulfilled so neither has justification been achieved. Again, when Peter saw the vision of a blanket coming down from heaven with all manner of animals, the voice from heaven said kill and eat. Not just eat, but to kill and eat. I do not see any disunity in what Paul preached with respect to this issue thought I can see how it could easily be misconstrued.
Just as agnostics/atheists don’t trust Christian scholars, can Christians trust agnostic/atheist scholars? Also, if Peter believed as this letter says, why does Peter accept the gentiles as Christians in Acts?
I've actually been reading things and investigating this subject, and this is why James contradicts Paul. People defend it and say that they complement each other because the Bible cannot contradict itself but they do. How they're both in the Bible is beyond me. Paul's letters were written before anything else of the new testament, even before the 4 gospels so i ask myself if the gospels are actually reliable
@@wserthmar8908 but only that it didn't and you can investigate it for yourself. The first gospel to be written was Mark and it was still decades after Paul's Epistles
If Peter at one point did actually send such a letter, then he obviously changed his mind as the leaders in Jerusalem sent Paul out with a letter of authority to state requirements for gentiles joining the church (see Acts 15). If the person “Paul” who runs this UA-cam channel keeps pushing this constant anti-Christian nonsense then he will have to explain his apostasy before God one day. I would not like to be in his shoes!
@@lovemamahouse If you think Mohammed is a messenger of God you need to listen to David Wood, Sam Shamoun & Christian Prince who prove Mohammed was a false prophet.
Here it is 3 years later and we can see why perhaps Paul stood as he did about the law that the Jews obeyed, being that the law was given by Yahweh the devil himself of the Old Testament. Being that Jesus himself said, that No man has ever see or talked to His Father in Heaven, but only Himself, as written in John 6: 46. So, who did Moses and Abraham talked to face to face.. Abraham not only feed the devil, but washed his feet!
@@BloggingTheology My mistake, it was Paul's interpretation of Christ that rendered circumcision unnecessary. So thanks to Paul and Jesus, we don't have to mutilate our children for them to be saved, which leads me to believe that Paul was good.
I am not a fan of Paul and am well aware of his shortcomings, but Romans Chapter 1 remains as one of the greatest literary compositions in the New Testament and of all things written about God. "Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools..." certainly is more applicable these days than it was then.
I wonder how much of Peter's enmity towards Paul comes from Paul/Saul's time persecuting Jewish Christians. These days we tend to see the conversion and testimony of murderers from a pretty skeptical position. "Saul" likely persecuted/killed? some of Peter's converts.
QUESTION to you, sir: Do you think it likely that Peter, and possibly other apostles, had scribes?? Certainly, Paul did and he was quite educated. I, too, think this view of the letter you discussed reflects the views held by the original apostles. I just want to know what you think about these unlearned, uneducated but anointed men having scribes who travelled with them. Thank you very much.
Two years ago he made a video about the apostle Peter being critical of the apostle Paul and Peter calling him his enemy. On the UA-cam channel blogging theology
Even according to Paul’s Epistles, Peter and James were Torah observant Jews. So it is highly unlikely that Jesus wasn’t also a Torah observant Jew. It was Paul who defiled Orthodox Judaism consistently, even declaring the Torah a curse. And by doing so he is degrading and rejecting the Jewish God. It’s difficult to claim Paul’s religion was a fulfillment of Judaism when he clearly hated and totally rejected Judaism. .
Jesus himself rejected the law, by preventing a woman from being stoned when, according to the Law, she should have been, and by working on the sabbath.
This is such a good topic, but I have to point out that the Letter from Peter to Paul was definitely not written by the actual Peter. There is almost unanimity among critical scholars that Peter did not write this letter, the Gospel of Peter, the Apocalypse of Peter, or even perhaps 2 Peter in the Bible. There were many who used his name to give themselves authority when writing.
Love it when Paul of London tries to undo Paul of Tarsus.
Excellent
Beatiful remarks,
Except fails.
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You can follow the great deceiver of you wish.
Your soul.
Your salvation.
@@think-islam-channel I love it when people up the stakes.
*Al An'aam 6:112*
_Likewise did We make for every Messenger _*_an enemy_*_ - evil ones among men and jinns, _*_inspiring each other with flowery discourses by way of deception_*_ . If thy Lord had so planned, they would not have done it: so _*_leave them and their inventions alone_*
a great quote!
@@BloggingTheology The Most Greatest Quote..
@@BloggingTheology this enforces the meaning of Pre-Destiny. So, they have a free will but God willed their free will actions to be made into existence.
@@HD13POWER i dont see it that way. It implies exactly free will. For if God doesnt give us human free will, we will all be submitting to the will of God exactly like angels.
@@Dani-zg7fr So, did He will their actions to be in existence or He didn't will their actions to become into existence? If He willed their free will action to become into existence. Did He know their free will actions will be that way or He was surprised?
Paul teaching is suspicious in many ways, such as:
- he was enemy of Jesus followers
- then claimed that Jesus came in his vision (after Jesus died) and give him new teaching, almost completely opposite to Jesus teaching in his lifetime.
Opposite...almost completely...?
I wouldn't say complete opposite, but he clearly was weaving in many things and laying down specific laws of what people should and shouldn't do in various situations. It is suspicious.
Remind me please what Paul's teaching is opposed to what jesus thought to make sure I have well understood the video
@@hansbarampama4759in short jesus never removed the laws and he only came to jacob lineage while paul generalised and removed a lot of laws
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Show me where Jesus says he is not trying to remove Moses ' law and I will show it to Christians who think he abolished his laws..
Yes this clearly shows that Paul (a man who never met Jesus) was preaching a new religion that was after the death of Jesus and this new religion was the opposite of what Jesus had taught. The Muslims have held this view from day one 1400 years ago and Bart erhman and nearly all of the Christian academics have come to the same conclusions as the Muslims only very recently.
@Jomy Mathew You're making up your own definitions tho lol
crucifiction attempt on Jesus to remove laws will make his ppl lose blessings in mathew 21 :43 & jeremia 31 :36. pauls in acts 9 : 3 saw devil of luke 10 :18 went to Arabia, is lawless false prophet in mathew 24 :11 thought he's who will correct him - comforter in John 1 :21 & 16 :8, Prophet law giver like Musa is Muhammad peace and blessings on him!
Jesus is only sent to his tribe, after mark 16 : 8 Jesus's 2nd appearance saying he's sent for the world is an admitted fabrication. isaiah 49 says Jesus will leave his tribe and return following the light of nations of isaiah 42, a new covenent, from the Arab Prophet from mt selah Medina, this is clearly Islam.
Abraham wasn't from juda, juda came like 2 centuries later, Ibrahim and Ismael were Muslims who built the Kaba, even Jacob imitates the hajj in genesis 28!
Jesus said God prefers mercy over sacrifice in mathew 9 & 12, but paul in hebrews 9 says God can't forgive without a sacrifice. this shows 2, Paul contradicts Jesus & paul degrades God's forgiveness to intro a new god, showing why polytheism is the worst sin, it degrades God's Attributes! - *Best response to paulines, we follow Jesus as we believe God can forgive without a sacrifice, using the verse above, it's over!*
this is on top of christian's contradictions of Allah's Tawhid Asma wa Siffat and historical contradictions with esp. with the law.
isaiah 43 : 10 says no new God will form, so john 1 is wrong (& likely an addition due to different writing style), the word is God's attribute in correct translation. It says word became flesh but job 25 :4 shows God can't come from a womb as whats from a womb is impure while God's word called pure in psalms 116 : 140 - Your word is pure!
Jesus is a created from the Word of God, He's not an attribute of God.
psalms 22 and 91 predicts Jesus is saved matching Quran 4 : 137.
@Jomy Mathew A comparison between the Bible and The Holy Quran.
The Bible
1. The oral Injeel preached by Jesus was in a dead language ancient aramaic, while the gospels were written in latin and greek, which are gentiles language.
2. Jesus never intended his message for gentiles as he was sent by God only for the Jews.
3. The 4 supposed authors of the selected gospels by council of nicea were all anonymous.
4. The council of nicea destroyed all gospels that did not conform to emperor constantine wishes. They included gospels that told Jesus was not crucified.
5. The writing styles are wildly fluctuating. Some may appear like words of God but many others read like ancient porn, sexual escapades and murderous tales. There are 30 episodes of literally eating shit!
6. As a result the Bible contradicts itself like crazy.
7. There are many versions of the bible, the douay, KJV, standard revised versions and many more including the latest the QUEEN JAMES VERSION for homosexuals! All of them have different number of books. Some books were taken out or put in according to the situation.
8. As a result nobody memorise the entire bibles word for word by heart.
9. The standard language for any bible reference today is in english which itself is a fairly new developed language. So when you have translations upon translations from one language to others there are bound to be mistakes and lost original meanings. And many people only rely on translations not knowing the original language.
10. As a result, even their own doctors of divinity admitted that there are so many serious mistakes in the bible although how they make it sound irrelevant and puny are all down to their remarkable skills of talking nonsense to sound like perfect sense. Masters of bullshit.
The Holy Quran.
1. Sent down in arabic which is a living language.
2. Perfectly protected by God with not a single letter altered since 1400 years ago.
3.The literary style is consistent.
4. The multi faceted miracles built in are irrefutable proof of its divine origins. Be it scientific, historical, mathematical, structural which confirms its authenticity. As Dr Maurice Bucaille wrote in his international bestseller classic book ' The Quran, The Bible and Science ' he found that the Quran is in perfect accordance with science.
5. It is memorised by heart by millions of people of all races around the world. Surely this is another miracle. If all copies of the Quran are destroyed, rest assured there will be a perfect replacement anytime without any doubts whatsoever.
6. It is the only book on earth that challenges all mankind and djinns combined to come up with a single chapter that is comparable to the Quran. And if they try but will surely fail Allah promised that hellfire awaits them.
7. Some of the greatest playwrights, poets and authors in history are in awe of the Quran. They include George Bernard Shaw, Goethe,Thomas Carlyle and many others.
I don't paul was a very nice person, he also he seemed to dislike humankind but he was the one who really turned the resurection story into something theologically brilliant by making it god/heaven based in a sense the act gave humans a clean slate to go to heaven. It does amuse me muslims and christians are so competitive with who is correct, both religions have huge amount myth and the bible/quran are written by man and man alone
What's better than buying and reading books?
Have Paul read them and tell you the best bits (for free).
Why bother read hundreds of pages, hours or days reading, if Paul can give you the main point in 10 minutes 🤣🤣🤣
@@light5978 Because Paul is selective, and may misrepresent.
@@jamesupton4996
That’s a possibility for any UA-camr, however no one really can refute Paul W. here because he Isn’t selective-he looks at many credible courses and subscribes to the logical accepted conclusions
@@Commander-Arcamus- he follows the consensus of the scholars and logic not his whims, nor illogical incoherent beliefs. It's is blatentely obvious that Orthodox, Catholic and Protestant Christianity comes from the mind of a liar, Paul of Tarsus and that the religion of Jesus (PUH) was Unitarian and close to Judaism.
@@karimb972 How the origin of the Bible and it’s creator Paul are false:
The Bible was first WRITTEN by ONE man (Paul) a SIGNIFICANT time (20 years) after Jesus “death” ie a NON-EYEWITNESS.
Paul’s’ only claim to authority is a story he told that he met Jesus on the road to Damascus. There is no other source to confirm his story so his word is all that supports it. He claims In Galatians 1:11-12, that he received divine revelation from Jesus. This means all of Paul’s writings must be free from error, otherwise he lied and did not meet nor was inspired by Jesus.
Furthermore, Paul made a false prophecy:
1 Corinthians 15:51-52 states not everyone in his time will die before the end of the world and return of Jesus. This is a false prophecy because the world is still alive. Conclusion: Paul was a liar and the origin of the NT was falsified. This is supported by NT Scholar C.K Barrett in first epistle to the Corinthians P. 381. C.S Lewis states about a similar world ending prophecy in Mark 13:30 that it is “the most embarrassing verse in the Bible” in The worlds last night and other essays, P.97. Christians will say this prophecy is false if we understand it literally. If we understood it figuratively then it can work with impacting future people. However if we look at other passages, we can confirm Paul meant his prophecy literally. 1 Corinthians 7:28-31 clearly tells people at the time of Paul to live as if immediate destruction is coming. He used the words “from now on”, “time is short”, and the “world is passing away”. In this verse, Paul urges people to be celibate, emotionless, and ascetic. It makes no sense for Paul to think people ought to behave this way and thrive for 2000 years especially when told to be celibate under the assumption the end of the world would happen in that lifetime. Deuteronomy 18:22 states that if a prophecy did not come true spoken in the name of the Lord, it did not come from the Lord. This shows that Paul did not speak truthful and was not inspired by God. Therefore-Paul was a false apostle.
Furthermore, Paul misquoted scripture:
Deuteronomy 30:14 states to obey the law. Paul quotes the first quarter of the verse here yet abrogated the obedience command in Romans 10:8-10. So Paul is preaching the exact opposite of what the OT states. Paul is pushing only for salvation via faith but the OT makes it clear that works is extremely important. Another clear contradiction.
Furthermore, Paul misinterpreted scripture:
Another of Paul’s core teachings stress that all God’s covenantal promises to Abraham were fulfilled by the coming of Jesus. “The promises were spoken to Abraham and to his seed. Scripture does not say “and to seeds,” meaning many people, but “and to your seed,” meaning one person, who is Christ.” (Galatians 3:16.) Here, Paul is making the argument that god’s promise to Abraham did not speak of seeds in the plural but rather seed in the singular and concludes the single seed is a reference to just one man (Jesus). Genesis 17:19 used the Hebrew word for seed “Zera” which serves as a collective noun that can be used to refer to one or multiple descendants. It depends on the context of the scripture. Similar to the English word sheep which can refer to one or many sheep. So now the question is, how do we know if the context is different and Genesis is talking about one or multiple seeds? In Genesis 13:16, God promised here that Abraham would be blessed with a multitude of descendants likening the “seed” to the dust of the earth. Therefore the correct context of the seed is not singular as Paul incorrectly interpreted it but plural.
Furthermore, Paul used wrong scripture:
Paul taught that the nation of Israel will be saved from its sins via Jesus. (Romans 11:26). Paul quoted this from the Old Testament book of Isaiah 59:20. There is a clear mismatch here: In Romans, Paul states the savior will remove sin from Israel: “Godlessness away from Jacob”. Isaiah however states the savior will come to Israel after repentance from sin. So why the confusion? Paul seems to have been quoting from the Septuagint. (Isaiah 59:20). Paul’s quote in Romans aligns closely to the Greek Septuagint. However, there are in fact, two variant readings of the Old Testament. There is the Hebrew, and there is also the Greek Septuagint that Paul clearly quotes from in Romans. There is powerful evidence that the Greek Septuagint contains a later reading due to the Dead Sea scrolls which serve as the oldest surviving manuscripts for the Old Testament support the reading that is found in the Hebrew Scriptures. This means when Paul decided to quote from the Greek Septuagint, he unknowingly used the later incorrect reading. Clearly, “God” would not have inspired him to make this mistake.
Furthermore, Paul distorted scripture:
Paul argued that nobody can attain righteousness through the works of the Mosaic law. (Romans 3:10-20). Here, Paul quotes 6 separate passages from the Old Testament books of Psalms and Isaiah. The first 3 verses are from Psalm 14:2-3, the next 2 are from Psalm 5:9, the next 1 is from Psalm 140:3, the next 1 is from Psalm 10:7, the next 1 is from Isaiah 59:7-8, the next 1 is from Psalm 36:1. Paul strung these passages together to appear as one quote. Looking at Paul’s quotation of Psalm 14:2-3 in Romans 3:10-20, we see in the original passage in Psalm 14:1-5, it’s talking about those who say “there is no God”. These are the same people said to “do no good”. Such evil doers are then contrasted with a second group of people referred to as “my people” who are said to be the company of the righteous. Paul seems to have distorted this passage. It does NOT say as Paul quotes it “that no human being is righteous, not even one”, rather it says, that those who deny god are not righteous.
Furthermore, Paul employs scriptural contradiction:
Paul gave a reason as to why God revealed the law to Moses and the Israelites in (Romans 3:19). According to Paul, the law was reveled to make us realize that it is impossible to keep and that we are all guilty before god. If we go back to the Old Testament regarding what God has to say about the law we will find that God says the law is “not too difficult for you or beyond your reach….” (Deuteronomy 30:11-14). This is the complete opposite of what Paul claimed in Romans 3:19. Moreover, Paul has extremely negative things to say about the law. He called it a curse in Galatians 3:10 and also called his last efforts of keeping the law as “garbage” in Philippians 3:5-8. This negative criticism is at odds with what the Old Testament teaches as made apparent in Deuteronomy 30:16. This passage from Deuteronomy states that the law will allow one to live and increase and will be blessed. Paul’s teaching clearly contradict the Old Testament teachings on many aspects here in opposition to the God that inspired the Old Testament.
Furthermore, Paul utilizes deception:
The Bible says that towards the end of his ministerial career, Paul visited Jerusalem which was home to 1000’s of Christians who obeyed the law of Moses. In fact, senior Christians directly confronted Paul on rumors he was preaching against the law of Moses. We see this in Acts 21:18-21. Now we notice if Paul was truly a genuine apostle, we should be expecting him to be forthcoming about his true beliefs and teachings. If we see how Paul act in reality, we see a completely hypocritical story. We see this in Acts 21:22-26 in which the senior Christians in Jerusalem commanded Paul to undergo a public head shaving ritual that was derived from the law of Moses. Here, Paul submissively complied with their command effectively denying the rumors that he preached against the law of Moses. In the aforementioned point, we see Paul’s extreme negative reaction to the law of Moses (calling it a curse and efforts to obey it as garbage). Therefore, by conducting himself in the manner of obeying the head shaving command from the Old Testament, yet enacting clear animosity and opposition to it, Paul reveals his true nature of being a 2-faces hypocrite as he showed one side to the senior Christians with his behavior and another side in his writings. Paul states that Jews are equal to non Jews in Galatians 3:27-28 and are not bound to keep any of the Mosiac laws so that they can serve in the way of the spirit in Romans 7:6. Here, we can see very clearly Paul taught the exact things he was accused of and deceptively denied them regardless.
Conclusion: Via Paul’s own writings in Romans, Galatians, Philippians, 1 Corinthians, Acts… we find a plethora of red flags including:
False prophecies
Misquotations
Misinterpretations
Wrong scriptures
Distortion
Contradictions
Deception
Not only does this solidify the fact that Paul was not a trustworthy figure, this also shows the Bible has been infected by his writings with over half of its books being attributed to him. So when one reads the Bible to learn about Jesus, they are using the lens of Paul who has been proven to be an unreliable source. This only adds on to the fact, Paul was never with Jesus and wrote 20 years after Jesus further solidifying unreliability and inauthenticity.
***If Paul never existed, what would Christians believe?
Excellent presentation.
Peter condemns Paul for his radical metamorphosis of christianity to suit the gentiles.
thank you sir
I am surprised that Paul the video author has even kept this video up. He should delete it. It neutralizes one of his most important pieces of ammunition against the Bible and Christianity- the lateness of the Gospel writings. Interesting.
But just to directly respond to your comment this is not news to the history of christianity. Peter had that view we always knew and Paul though a Jew had another view. God had to speak directly to Peter about delinking Judaism from this new form of initiation. All these things are attested to in the writing the Acts of the apostles.
Why all this shock and awe?
@@teachmetheway7081 Sounds more like posthoc rationalization geared toward harmonizing two separate groups to me.
But what you say is true, why does Jesus himself in Matthew 15:24 ‘But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.’?
@@Lobsterwithinternet while a bit rhetorical i ask you: who are the lost sheep of the house of Israel?
And then where does he send his disciples to reap? What was the limit of his instruction? Who are the other sheep not of this fold he refers to(i leave chapter and verse to you)?
@@Lobsterwithinternet "posthoc rationalization ..." hmmm? Consider muhammad had to use suasion of varying types to grow his band.
Jesus' followers grew it is written firstly by the thousands among jews and then similarly the gentiles. If you believe Jesus never intended why then did it happen at all and to catch on so rapidly among a gentile populace. If it weren't intended to be so then you must challenge peter not paul for his preaching it was that brought the gentiles in.
And given the muslim channel this is what of posthoc islam. Who was Muhammad sent to? Didn't the quran say Allah sends his messenger in the language of the target audience? Why then all these non arabic speaking muslims? Interesting. posthoc indeed
look this verse please
Revelation 14:12
12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.
I never could understand how Paul could make the Law look so ugly, while in the Psalms of Prophet David (as), the Law is so beautiful.
@David Smith
We are only stupid ( you 😎).
Just a question have you read the New Testament?
@@jamesarendse9739 yes
I was raised in a Baptist Church
@@TalibAlAminDhakir Treathening people with hell, or embracing grace. Paul has the better but there are so much man-made stories in both books there is simply no overall truth in both.
Very well revealing historical truth Mr Paul. Surely, most of people been deviated for centuries and now its time to disclose them all .
I have seen Bart Ehrman's debate with Christians leaders- he is so well informed and shows how much work he had done to find the truth. but people still reject the truth. he is remarkable researcher biblical scholar and writer and speaker.
As far as I'm aware, Bart Ehrman is an atheist. Like Christianity, atheism is not the truth. Allah guide us all.
@@islamquestionanswer1829 what a stupid thing to say ! what his faith has to do with his remarkable work?? His work is impeccable.
Ehrman is an atheist, so the "truth" he talks about is that there is no God. Logically no human can be a prophet of a God that does not exist. So the truth according to Ehrman is that Mohammed must be a false prophet. Is that the truth you accept?
@Jomy Mathew Quite correct, Ehrman says that all the evidence shows that Jesus did die on the cross.
@@johnzuma4688 Bart Ehrman never said he doesn't believe in GOD. he said He doesn't believe in Christian God. There are several videos, he said these words.
Don't lie, I know it's a conservative Christian trait to lie , deny the truth and always spoil for fight, be hostile who is showing the truth, but it is very ANYOYNG .
Paul is a self proclaimed apostle
Don't say what you don't know
Study before you talk
To all Christians:
I have knew what the main faith of your religion , i mean the basics faith which Jesus didnt talk about it ( original sin + divinity + trinity ) all of these were by Paul Not Jesus.
i reject Christianity bcz Jesus even didn't say anything about basics of Christianity just Paul who said these things.
Paul lied about jesus, Paul changed the Ten Commandments of God (Birth of christianity ) and he changed the original message of Jesus.
paul who appointed himself to be a prophet and changed Jesus teachings entirely.
Of course Jesus he is the way, and no one will get to the father if they don't follow Jesus teachings, and NOT the teachings of Paul. i want you all to come back to the true teachings of Jesus (pbuh) and all the prophets then STOP following what paul taught (who hated Christianity and use to be a bounty hunter of Christians)
"jesus never said iam God or Worship Me" u can't say clear verses without vague from Jesus's mouth. but what do you have other than quoting what a self appointed prophet (Paul) said? U just follow Paul
Why u guys eat pig and drink wine when moses said don't do it? Are u saying jesus lied? Or you should admit that Paul are telling you lies.
Do you follow jesus or paul or mathew.What jesus has commanded you do opposite. wrong doers.
Paul the founder of Christianity.
I pray for you to find the truth . May Allah guide you to it . Ameen
I was just making things clear and speaking the truth ... In the words of all of the past Prophets, "May Peace be upon you!"
Jesus: what do you teach?
"I want you to show mercy, not offer sacrifices. ' For I have come to call not those who think they are righteous, but those who know they are sinners." -Matthew 9:13
"I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.'' Luke 5:32
Disciples: what did Jesus teach?
"Now repent of your sins and turn to God, so that your sins may be wiped away." -Acts 3: 19
Paul (Fake apostle): what did Jesus teach?
"Christ died for our sins" -1corinthians 15-3
Who is the LIAR?!
Paul the founder of Christianity.
paul 💀🔥🔥🔥🔥you want to be with him?!!!
A very interesting comment.
Christians love the verses you quote.
They believe that the only way is by believing Jesus yet Jesus went to great lengths to tell people what God wanted.
Matthew 5 is a blueprint to what God wants.
I believe when Jesus said I am the way the truth and the life it wasn't an invitation to worship him but to follow his teaching as a Prophet and nothing more.
Jesus was in essence a Muslim.
He also challenged the teachings.
He spoke of eating halal food.
He said words to the affect that just because you don't eat unclean food doesn't make you clean
I struggle everyday to please God, I struggle with thought and deed .
Muslims call this struggle Jihad.
@You Say I spent 40 years like that.
If I'm forgiven by Jesus then what happens when I don't show mercy or I judge.
Sadly Christians get saved the proceed to judge others.
Maybe Muslims do to.
I struggle everyday with faith I struggle everyday to be a person pleasing to God.
Ego is a dirty word
@The Merciful Servant my faith has changed .
I think I can say in essence
Ashhadoo an la IL ahah IL Allah.
I'm a closet Muslim I think.
@@amry2050
"Who is the LIAR?!"
You. You were clearly never a Christian and you regurgitate Ahmed Deedat's nonsense the way that scarcely anyone but a Muslim raised in such idiocy could have.
Also, early Islamic tradition affirms that Paul was a true apostle of Jesus. See Ibn Kathir on Q. 36:14 and al-Qurtubi on 61:14.
Great video. I think you should do a video on what points Christians and Muslims can agree, and work together. Like conservative family values, social mores etc.
2 Peter 3:14-16 New International Version >> 14 So then, dear friends, since you are looking forward to this, make every effort to be found spotless, blameless and at peace with him. 15 Bear in mind that our Lord’s patience means salvation, just as our dear brother Paul also wrote you with the wisdom that God gave him. 16 He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters. His letters contain some things that are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the other Scriptures, to their own destruction.
Why, who cares? The major beliefs between the two are incompatible.
James was Zaddik, considered by all to be, the most righteous man of his generation---to characterize him as illiterate is inaccurate ---and follows in line with the Roman Empire's New Testament choice of guidance through Saul of Tarsus (Paul), the Herodian, educated but teaching his own teaching.
Paul's teachings came from Yahweh Messiah through the Spirit infilling that Paul had.
Thanksm Gary--->Have you ever wondered (through Grace-Light) via accurate intuition that Saul received his instruction from a demigod.--certainly, when listing YHWH's traits we see a demigod's fury and duality
God bless you Paul! (Our friend Paul from UA-cam). We don’t have to dismiss Peter’s letter saying they couldn’t write. In olden times they have scribes (writers) who were hired to write letters and write down teachings. Peter’s letter most like was Peter’s letter but it was written by his command.
Thanks for your help with new publications.
Your videos are really educative. Am learning alot from them. God bless you
Glad you like them!
I hope you also get a new web camera. One with 1080p resolution so that we can see your clearer.
I discovered the truth about the early Christian writings like Bart earman also, but it did not cause me to denounce my faith like he did, so this tells me B.E was not with the Holy Spirit to begin with.
This may be a "theological" approach but never a scientific one as to your opinion everything not corresponding to church doctrines is of evil or more poetically: "What must not be cannot be" or originally: "Nicht sein kann, was nicht sein darf"!
@@WMedl Well sure friend. If that is what floats your boat... no argument from me. But a word of advice.... things are not what they seem. What is inside your head is not whats inside mine, or Joe Bloggs even for that matter. This does not shy away from one pure and unchangeable fact, scientific or theological, and this is....
*There can only be one truth* Does either of us have the truth? No, what you say and what I say and what Joe Bloggs says are only opinion.
@@strikemaster1 The Jews have the truth Zech. 8:23.
@@madeirafonseca6383 They are close... but not there yet.
if you "discovered the truth", what did that mean? you found out that Paul had obscured Jesus' message to create a church hierarchy he never intended, brought in original sin to control and shame people and... you still went along with it?
May Allah Help You and reward you Jannah in the next world امين
Yet the many "missionarys" are ignorant to Paul s video s🤷🏻 they hear but don t listen....
#missionary drama
Much of paul's teachings are absolutely opposite to that of Moses, the prophets, the apostles of Christ, and to that of Christ.
Paul teahing against yhe law, romans 3:20
Everyone else teaches to obey the law.
Moses, Deuteronomy 11:1
David, Psalm 111:7-8
Solomon, Proverbs 28:9
Christ, Mathews 4:4
Peter, 2 Peters 2:21
James, James Acts 21:21
I'm picking up a lot of enthusiasm among Muslims for these blogs. Understandable, considering that the implication, intentional or otherwise, is hostility toward mainstream Pauline Christianity. Personally, though an Atheist, who shares the views of the late Christopher Hitchens on Islam, and the more sectarian and intolerant aspects of all faiths, I would be proud to call myself a Christian by culture. I have great respect for the accumulated wisdom of Judeo Christianity, and by that I mean Pauline Christianity. I don't care about the dogmatic claims to authenticity of this or that apostle two thousand years ago. For me, the great gift of Paul was to give Jesus to all who wanted to accept his teachings, regardless of their race or creed. He rescued it from being a sect exclusively for one people, and made it possible for Jesus's message to evolve into something universal, for all people, should they wish to receive it.
he wanted his teachings to be obeyed which because of paul arent being obeyed.
I agree. I don't think we'd even be able to have this discussion without Paul. Who would even know what Christianity is in any form without Paul?
2 Peter 3:15-16 And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation: even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you. As also in all his epistles speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to understand, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction. (The law was fulfilled at the cross when Jesus died and gave Himself as a ransom for all the sins of the world. That's why in John 19:30 Jesus said, It is finished the moment before He died on the cross.)
The words "hard to understand" is a mistranslation from the original Greek word Disnoestas, which means nonsensical or destructive sense.
The translators wanted their agenda by twisting these words, among many others.
Dear Paul
May God Bless you for the fantastic insight and true understanding you share . Through actual research and using an open mind You have managed to make people think ... and not blindly follow .
You are very welcome
I certainly don’t believe that that letter to James was written by the apostle Peter , if you read ll Peter 3:15 &16
testifies that Paul was NOT an Enemy of Peter !
No but it says he was wise not inspired... a brother not an apostle.... confusing... and misleading to those who were perishing because of how they used him to negate the commandments (especially about idolatry and rejection of Sabbath).
I remember reading Bart Ehrman's "Misquoting Jesus"- a very readable and eye-opening work. Ehrman is certainly a a scholar of formidable stature.
Naw Man U need to check out apologists that debunk him.
@@soccerislife6108 please could you pass their names or books?
I debunked him as a freshman in seminary
@@jacjr76 would you care to elaborate? His works are well-sourced, and his arguments are shared by other biblical scholars.
@@snam85 Ehrman? His stuff is largely nonsense. He made a name for himself off of sensationalizing “mistakes” in the Bible. Not enough room to elaborate
I wonder who else thinks John saw the church in Revelation and that is what upset him until he seen the lamb over comes it all
Did you consider that perhaps Peter used a scribe to write the letter on his behalf and sent it to James? That's perfectly possible as well I believe.
Book of Acts... History...
James declared that the gentiles need not be circumcised.
No contradiction...
Saved by Grace through Faith
Follow the law through Love, by the Holy Spirit Who is writing it on our hearts... ❤️
No, James did not declare that the gentiles should not be circumcised, this is what paul says in 1 cor 7:19. James instead gave four things to start with Acts 15:19-20 and Acts 15:28-29 and then Acts 21:25 when paul failed to teach what James said should be taught. James implied the law of Moses would be read to them every sabbath as they've always done throughout the generations.
paul's lawless teaching about not observing circumcision flies in the face in YHWH in particular judgements such as Ezekiel 44:7 and 44:9. paul's teaching caused an uncircumcised ephesian student (of paul's) named Trophimus to pass beyond the dividing barrier wall into the inner sanctum of Jerusalem temple in 58 AD (Acts 21:21-28),12 years after the defilement in 70 AD the temple fell to Roman Siege. This is why the Jews wanted him dead so bad, he defiled the temple with a greek which goes against YHWH's desires, on top of teaching the Jews who remained with the gentiles to forsake moses and even the everlasting covenant of circumcision - which if a Jew neglected would cut them off from YHWH (Gen 17:4-14 everlasting covenant).
This non circumcision business is all paulian. James the Tzaddik, brother of Jesus and first Bishop of the Jerusalem church was known as a more strict observer of Torah than most Jews - paul's teaching is not his doctrine, because that same exact teaching is what caused paul to become guilty of a crime worthy of death.
Jesus himself broke the law, by preventing a woman from being stoned when, according to the Law, she should have been, and by working on the sabbath.
Thank you, this is so interesting. I did not study Theology so I cannot make any scholarly judgments but I have a theory that Paul was an agent of either Rome or the Sanhedrin which is why Peter describing him as his enemy is really interesting to me.
What evidence do you have in support of your theory?
Thank you for these videos.You have made early christianity very clear to us.Paul never wanted to learn about the messiah from any of the disciples of Jesus.He put forward his own thoughts about the religion and made the religion easy for all.All this against the religion taught by Jesus.
That is really wrong. According to Acts he spent three years in Arabia before preching to the Jews and then turning to the Gentiles He wasn't sitting in a cave, he had become an accepted part of the Chriatian community. So he was learning e.g..His account of the insittution of the Eucharist is almost word for word the same as the account in the gospels.
Now you - kindly - explain to me how Islam came to believe in the Virgin Bith of Isa.
Where did that come from?
@@andrewphilip3308he never went to the peninsula or anywhere near kedar only areas around damascus
Just a thought that came to my mind...you say that it is unlikely Peter would have written that letter as he was most likely illiterate. But in those days surely a person would have gone to a person who could write and asked them to write any letters. So the origin is still Peter although he didn’t actually pen the letter himself. Just something that came to my mind as a newcomer to this kind of material. Loving your videos. Thank you.
interesting!
If that letter was written by or via Peter then it will deal a blow to Paul's assertions about the times when the gospels were written. If Peter did write it he is making reference verbatim to Matthew's gospel. for that to be true obviously Matthew's gospel has to be extant. Paul has faithfully said to you and other viewers that the gospels were written in the latter part of the first century between 70 - 100 AD Mark being first. therefore if Matthew is to come after and Peter is still writing (quite notably from the grave) it would PUN INTENDED put all the nails into the coffin of Paul's desire to emasculate the gospel's via time criticism. Most safely said Peter died between 64 - 68 AD. The book of acts would have been written nevertheless before 64 AD quite safely said because it omits (itself being a history of the first christians) the major event of the burning of Rome and ends rather abruptly.
How can Peter write a letter about a book that existed between 70 - 100 AD when Peter dies before 70 AD? Now i don't accept this notion. It is very silly to be honest but it is what Paul as an anti-christian commentator prefers. Anything to falsify the new testament.
Added to which the Jerusalem council addressing this issue by i believe around 50 AD would place this letter earlier than 50 AD but certainly no later. The implication is that the gospel of Matthew and therefore Mark would have to be existent before 50 AD. Easily I would say between 35 - 45 AD. This would further put a nail in the coffin of Paul's and Bart Ehrman's claims about the late writing of the gospels.
to be honest I would like this letter to be real. The same Peter would then be shown to have changed his mind at the Jerusalem council. And please note the decision of this Jerusalem council to basically lay no burden on the gentiles other than keeping from certain things etc., Remember Jesus says to them whatever they bind on earth is bound in heaven. and whatever is loose on earth is loosed in heaven. He gave them freedom to deliberate yet obviously within the limits of his teaching. Whatever those teaching were (I think Paul video guy would like that ending)
Paul is actually a very shady and ambiguous character, and very controversial. You might call him the mystery man of the New Testament. And he was never a direct, personal disciple of Jesus, by the way...
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14 So then, dear friends, since you are looking forward to this, make every effort to be found spotless, blameless(AA) and at peace with him. 15 Bear in mind that our Lord’s patience(AB) means salvation,(AC) just as our dear brother Paul also wrote you with the wisdom that God gave him.(AD) 16 He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters. His letters contain some things that are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable(AE) people distort,(AF) as they do the other Scriptures,(AG) to their own destruction.
17 Therefore, dear friends, since you have been forewarned, be on your guard(AH) so that you may not be carried away by the error(AI) of the lawless(AJ) and fall from your secure position.(AK) 18 But grow in the grace(AL) and knowledge(AM) of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.(AN) To him be glory both now and forever! Amen.(AO)
@@deesott5123 That's an excellent quotation. Peter and Paul were at odds sometimes, as was Peter and our Lord.
But they both understood 'By this shall all men know that you are my disciples: that ye love one another.'
Why would I follow a satan over Christ? Christ is my Lord and Savior and he condemend false prophet like muhammed.
Muhammed was worst of human being and allah was satan that deceived billions of people around the world.
I left islam and found Christ amen!
"Peter went up on the flat roof to pray. It was about noon, 10 and he was hungry. But while a meal was being prepared, he fell into a trance. 11 He saw the sky open, and something like a large sheet was let down by its four corners. 12 In the sheet were all sorts of animals, reptiles, and birds. 13 Then a voice said to him, “Get up, Peter; kill and eat them.”
14 “No, Lord,” Peter declared. “I have never eaten anything that our Jewish laws have declared impure and unclean.[b]”
15 But the voice spoke again: “Do not call something unclean if God has made it clean.” 16 The same vision was repeated three times. Then the sheet was suddenly pulled up to heaven."Acts 10
I think acts was written by Paul the fake apostle so maybe that shouldn’t be your source
@@Iron_Ottoman No, Acts was written by Luke, the Gospel writer and physcian.
Thank you Paul. Bart Ehrman is a serious man with very straight forward confrontational attitude when dealing with Christian confused creed and methodology.
When we are dealing with the transcendent which/who is ineffable and surpasses the range of all huiman thought and speech, you must expect a certain amount of mental bafflement.
Pretending that you have one book which makes it all clear is not going to help.
But still..they will never come to the truth(true doctrine)...1 were speaking of circumcision(The Law)...Saul...preaching to the Gentile (Gospel of Grace)
Seems that it is Bart Ehrman who is confused about Christianity.
This proves Peter calling Paul beloved brother and talking favourably about his difficult letters is a corruption and interpolation in our Bibles by Greek and Roman scribes
Great sincere effort by brother Paul to enlighten us through best available writings by prominent Scholars, so no one can misguide and manipulate the masses.
My humble request to brother Paul to read some verses from new testament whenever you give references to boost and deepens the viewers understanding.
thank you!
There are many who have addressed your questions. You must Listen to Mr Deedat addressing all these that u wrote. The Priests have raised them and he addressed them and none of them refuted the answers at least on the debates I saw. But God knows best.
What prophet in the Bible continually has to State “I am not lying?” What prophet constantly uses false humility to tell people he is an apostle. Were the Apostles those who had been with Jesus
I have been watching Bart Ehrman's lecture videos and interviews for a time now .. and always gets me appalled by how the christians rather warm reactions and acceptance towards him .. for so many reasons :
1. Because in many essential parts of his subjects about the bible (which basically doubting the originallity & preserverence of the bible and so the foundation of it's theology as well ... and back it up with facts) is actually well known within the scholars of the bible but not their common people. Shouldnt the knowing people tell those common people about it ? out loud ? coz this is a serious matter isnt it ? why keeping as if it should be a secret for all this time ?
2. The christians warm attitude and acceptance to him .. even though he basically slamming the facts about the bible to their faces .. while we .. muslims already told them these things for centuries and all we get are animosity & disbelief ... how that work in the mind of the christians are beyond me.
Isn't it not apparent .. clearly .. from their questions to Bart Ehrman is in different nature than those given to muslims (such as videos of Ahmed Deedat, Zakir Naik or on most Da'wah videos at Speaker Corners) .. those questions mostly are not an attempt to "bash" Bart Ehrman for what he says .. but when they questioned a muslims on the same subject .. most of the time they do.
3. The fact that .. it seems to me that the christians feels okay when someone from their community gone to agnotism and then atheism (as Bart Ehrman say himself) after he became aware of the facts about the bible .. but not when someone acknowledge these same facts and revert themself to Islam.
Ego and jealosy!
Thank you
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It is worth noting that in the English language all of the days of the week are actually named after Pagan deities from Northern European cults. For example, Monday, is from‘Moon’ as some of the northern European Pagans used to worship the Moon on this day. Thursday is from the Nordic god Thor; Friday is from the Nordic god Freyr;Saturday is derived from the Roman god Saturn and possiblySaturnalia which was another Roman “celebration” which involved debauchery and inebriation. But the most important pagan naming for a week day is with Sunday derived from the Roman sun god Solis Invictus, not from “son of god.” This is why later Christians, accommodating Romans and their culture, hence ‘Roman Catholicsim,’worship on ‘Sunday,’ s-u-n, not s-o-n. The 25th of December was also the birthday of Sol and was known as Natalis Solis Invicti which was a time of rejoicing, games, public frolics and inducement in slaves. Remember, these same Romans would later preside over the Council of Nicea, headed by the Pagan Roman Emperor, Constantine, who was himself considered to be an incarnation and embodiment of the sun god!! The Council of Nicea and other “councils” lead to the “official” and “orthodox” doctrines of which books should be placed into the Bible, the trinity and Jesus’ date of birth being fixed to the 25th of December.
What is the problem with the Church making use of what was avalable, culturally and lingistically for a higher purpose?
As St Ambrose pointed out, when the Israelites left Egypt, they took spoils form the Egyptians.
And Paul of Tarsis would totally agree with you. Christendom the imposter and the prostitute usurped the real church, the body of believers, instituting decrees that were pagan.
Spoils and idols are not related
Mentor. Yes, the biblical sabbath was not connected to a 7-day week like the Gregorian calendar. The New Moon marks the starting point for counting and the shabbat falls consistently on the 8th, 15th, 22nd, 29th of each month. Biblical text to support using the moon, a light in the heavens, to determine days include Genesis 1:14, Psalm 104:19.
So, the Saturday vs Sunday arguement is null and void. The Lord's day, as the early disciples saw it was not a replacement for the day of rest, which was yhe Sabbath. However, the Sabbath and all of the law was fulfilled in Christ.
The truth is, I believe, as you stated. The early disciples may have met 'on the Lord's (resurrection) day, the Sunday, but it was the prostitute church which instituted it. For, believers can and do meet any and every day.
You missed Tuesday named after Tiuw or Tuiw, Norse God of War, and Wednesday, Woden (W’Odin), named after Odin
And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you; As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction. Ye therefore, beloved, seeing ye know these things before, beware lest ye also, being led away with the error of the wicked, fall from your own stedfastness. But grow in grace, and in the knowledge of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. To him be glory both now and for ever. Amen. 2 Peter 3:15-18
Whilst it's clear that Pauline Christianity supplanted the early Jewish followers of Jesus. Unfortunately, it's difficult to trust the authenticity of early Christian writings which were borne out of mutual hatred. It's by God's grace that the Qur'an was revealed to set the record straight and re-align Christianity & Judaism to the strict monotheism of Abraham, which the Muslims were also instructed to follow.
You say >> Whilst it's clear that Pauline Christianity supplanted the early Jewish followers of Jesus
Muslim were and still r and only will b
@@johnzuma4688 I would reply if I thought you are a man of reason. It's difficult to cure blind faith but if you were interested in the truth you only have to read eminent Christian scholars, several of them presented on this channel. Peace.
You are a false man presenting himself otherwise. Your premise: anyone who read the Quran knows it is full of lies. Retort: you are a liar pretending to the reader you have read let alone understood the Quran.
Last premise: Muhammad was a paedophile. Retort: again, you are a liar who covers up your fake knowledge using ‘polite’ to mask your failed education.
Conclusion: just watch the video and don’t expose your failed education and fake knowledge.
@@nurlhaqchaniago6143 You say >> anyone who read the Quran knows it is full of lies
Wow, I would love a copy of that letter to hang on my way lol. My channel is based on the false self-proclaimed apostle Paul, as I have been studying all Paul's letters for over 2 years and this is the 1st I am hearing of this letter. Thank you sir. Blessings.
Hi Paul - many Christians today use the “Golden Rule” of interpretation: seeking the spiritual intention of the words used, by allowing the Holly Spirit to aid understanding. Simplicity, kindness, love and forgiveness would be key words to guide our soul to reach an understanding. Intellect itself, often becomes a “stumbling block” to discovery.
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And so “not a tittle of the law shall pass” is true. But this is interpreted to mean that Jesus will personally manage / moderate His Father’s Commandments. Some Christians will even take this to mean: simply believing in Jesus’s name and it will be done - because, through the Holly Spirit, the law has been written into their hearts. One of Jesus’s criticisms regarding the law was that intellect had created too much confusion and burden for the common man to carry.
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This is meant as a little food for thought, and a bit of understanding as to why Christians come to so many different understandings, based upon their individual maturity.
I enjoy reading your posts.
@Jomy Mathew Thanks Jomy
'Not a jott or tittle will pass, until all is fulfilled'. 'Until all is fulfilled' is moderating phrase. And he fulfilled the law at the cross with his crucifixion. Because all the law and prophets were a shadow of the real substance that was to come in him; him being the real substance. With his blood he ratified a new covenant, unlike the old one of written code. But the introduction of the Holy Spirit living in a believer through faith, carrying in it the righteousness of God to impart into the heart. By faith no longer obeying an external set of rules. But obeyance to the indwelling Holy Spirit, the Spirit of Righteousness. This is the gospel that was brought through the Messiah's sacrifice and ratified by his blood. And gospel revealed to Paul, the apostle to the Gentiles. A gospel not understood by the world or the Roman church, the progenitor of Christendom.
Apparently the book being reviewed doesn't cover first century Christianity, which may have been quite different from second or third century. In certain epistles, Paul, Peter and Jude, more than hint that apostasy had already set-in. Also, we find in Acts, that Paul, earlier, met in Jerusalem with Peter and James, among other Christian leaders. In this meeting, apparently presided over by James, the council agreed upon offering the gospel to the Gentiles, and not requiring circumcision. In 2 Peter 3:15-16, Peter speaks of "our beloved brother Paul," allowing that some of Paul's teachings could be hard to understand, but does not attempt to disallow or refute those teachings. Interesting new book, however!
Thank you brother for these interesting informations. Jesus said that he comes not to abolish the Judaism law, but to fulfill it. But Paul didn't obey to this and has abolished the law. Nice continuation. Your fun from Morocco.
Yes but even Jesus view of fulfill didn’t mean he didn’t change or interpret things differently. He says clearly no eye for eye or vows. These are prescribed in the law Of Moses but denied in the law of Christ
Yes Jesus said to the gentile woman that He was only sent to the lost sheep of Israel. Then after talking to her he helps her.
And He also talked to the Samaritan woman and stayed in the Samaritan town for two days.
So though He said that it was only a test to see if she was humble enough to come to Him.
She passed the humble test and so He ministered to her.
Quit misrepresenting the stories told.
Well said
I just love your channel!
You said you haven’t been in a book store in months, but every time I watch your lectures, you are always in your library haha, Have a beautiful Ramadan to all. Alhamdulilah Hirab Bila Alamin.
I`m sure, Peter calls an enemy not Paul, but Simon Magus, who was his historical opponent.
*J*SUS :*
*"Ouwh, Israel, Follow Torah and Obey me !"*
*P*UL :*
*"Ouwh, People of The World, Ignore Torah...Ignore Jesus..... Follow me instead !".*
-Meme
Where does Jesus say "keep Torah"??
@Jomy Mathew
Why do you love to be brainwashed by "Islam Haters" ? .......Why ?
@@johnzuma4688 Jesus said salvation is by keeping the Commandments Paul said believe in the blood of Jesus
@Jomy Mathew silly questions you're not interlect find somewhere else to ask your nonintelegent questions
@Jomy Mathew
WHY DO YOU LOVE TO OBEY PAUL AND DISOBEY JESUS ????
The big question is whether the "deaf, dumb, and blind" will search for the Truth with their hearts open and intellect and NOT egos?
I still need to learn more.Thank you Mr.Paul for the preface.
Peter is quoted quite clearly in the NT. Paul was "misunderstood" because his writings are "difficult to understand". Peter calls Paul "our beloved brother who "wrote with wisdom that God has given to him." Peter was against those who "twisted" (misinterpreted) what Paul wrote - "to their own destruction". Please stick to the Holy Scriptures.
You’re amazing Paul. I love your videos
He omits the fact that they had a Council to work out these differences and it is recorded in Acts.
They came to a unified decision that gentiles only had to follow the 3 OT laws that applied to the sojourner living amongst the Israelites.
Very enlightening. Thank you Paul
Glad you enjoyed it
So where does that leave us gentiles? Who is the correct one to listen too? Does this cancel the teachings of Paul? I've always wondered about this question.
Christ chose Paul for you and I - the Gentiles, Acts 9:15, Rom 11:13, Rom 15:16.
2 Peter 3:15-16 confirms Paul.
Gal 2:7-9 , other Apostles confirmed Paul.
Even an evil spirit knows Paul, Acts 19:15.
Some don't like Paul because Christ through him taught faith ALONE to enter Heaven.
The big money comes from faith 'AND WORKS' so must destroy Paul somehow.
Choose God’s chosen one, Yeshua the Messiah
Excellent clip Mashallaah
I do think the apostles DID know how to read and write because another Jewish scholar, Nehemiah Gordon, says that in rabbinic Judaism, those unschooled in the Oral Law are considered to be ‘UNschooled’.
Assalamuaikum mr paul
From mecca
In Sha Allah I will go to Mecca soon
@@salut4396 amen inshAllah
May Allah listen your do 'a
salam from London
welcome brother
Paul is not contradicting Christ when he speaks of Christ "abolishing the law" (Eph 2:15), but the fulfillment of the law and the tearing down of the partition (2 Cor 3) having the law written not on tablets of stone but by his Holy Spirit writing the law on our hearts, for the letter kills but the Spirit gives life. How much better to follow out of love than obey out of command.
jesus never said he tore down the wall of partition. and the law is still written in stone and on our hearts. the law itself still stands.
Masha Allah. Another great work brother Paul. May Allah bless your good work. The Quran confirms that rhe earlier followers of Moses and Jesus are true believers in Allah. QS 3:199
The true believers and followers of Moshe (Moses) and Yahusha the Messiah (Jesus) who is the only begotten son of Yahuah (the almighty creator) follow the laws in the Torah. True believers would never follow Paul or Muhammad because its obvious that they were both liars. Paul invented Christianity as we know it today and its a false religion. The Catholic church and false prophet Muhammed and his 1st wife Kadija (who are all liars) invented Islam which is another false religion.
Moses and Jesus never believed in Allah.
The only thing Peter said is that circumcision should not be imposed upon the gentiles as it would test God and burden the new Christians
alhamdulillah your channel is very educational. reading books from different scholar is veey informative specialy books of bart erhman. may allah be please with you allahuakbar
Why would I follow a satan over Christ? Christ is my Lord and Savior and he condemend false prophet like muhammed.
Muhammed was worst of human being and allah was satan that deceived billions of people around the world.
I left islam and found Christ amen!
The 70 mentioned in this document refer to the 70 men that Moses selected to go with him to mount sinai and speak with Allah. This is mentioned in the Quran.
One of my favorite channel indeed. Thanks.
Before submitting my comment let me thank you for all the effort you put in enlightening us regarding Christ. Now, considering Peter and the apostles possibilities of writing, naturally I agree with you, however, couldn’t they have used scribes to write them? Surely there must have been one, or several among the followers. Also I wanted to ask, if Paul misguided us and the “true church” belongs only to those who follow the Jewish law, where does that leave us? Thanks again.
BArt Erhman through his scholarship and learning. As well as his well placed critique and analysis led me down a whole new path.
If only more people within religion displayed that level of study and objectivity. And i mean all religions here, especially those textually based
@A drian
Bart Erhman, great scholar of the Christian writings indeed. Agreed. The same greatness can't be attributed to his integrity. His UA-cam Channel / admin deletes / hides from public viewing the comments with the previous scriptures backing up the Muslim position. It's not a claim in thin air, YOU can actually test this claim. I'll give YOU points backed by the scriptures and YOU just copy paste those on Bart Erhman's UA-cam Channel. Try this exercise for like 1 hour a day for around 7-10 days as YOU discuss / reason / debate with the Christians OR the Jews. The more YOU are able to establish in front of the Christians and the Jews that the previous scriptures back up the Muslim, the quicker YOU will see YOUR comments get deleted / hidden from public viewing.
@A drian
Jesus said and foretold as COMMANDED by THE ONLY TRUE GOD - THE FATHER:
*BY THE FRUITS YE SHALL KNOW THEM*
Radical Monotheism exactly like the Jewish Prophets / Jews to believe in a uniquely ONE GOD - without any partners or equals or like a three in one falsehood - the abom1nat10N called the doctrine of the Trinity - plus believing in the Messiah Jesus sent by God, and the essential consistency with his doctrine - the Muslim.
The very words that the Father - THE ONLY TRUE GOD - COMMANDED Jesus Christ to say. The doctrine of THE ONLY TRUE GOD that HE COMMANDED Jesus Christ to give.
The testimony of Jesus Christ on the Father:
- The Only True God (John 17:3)
- The Only One Who Knows The Hour (Mark 13:32)
- Greater than I (John 14:28)
- Greater than all (John 10:29)
- My God and Your God (John 20:17)
The doctrine of Jesus Christ =
The doctrine of a Muslim.
(Of course the term Father in the Jewish context. A figure of speech for their times. NOT that God has a literal Son. God has got Son by the Ton in the Bible.)
Defenders of the true honor and status of Jesus Christ against lies and abominations which includes the Crucifixion.
Continued.....
@A drian
VERSUS
Christianity more like the Greek and Roman doctrines and the pagan doctrines like "God" coming down in human form and human / blood sacrifice that pagans had going hand in hand with Paul's doctrines of easy fake salvation with blood of an innocent, making the Merciful God in to a blood thirsty vampire. The same people making Jesus Christ UNRIGHTEOUS by their position (believing in the fiction called Crucifixion) and making the Father a treacherous back-stabber by their position and doctrine. Christianity actually the followers of Paul.
2000 years ago, the Roman and Greek Empire with its culture and mythological and pagan roots already held the beliefs such as "God coming down in human form". So after witnessing just a single "miracle" from Paul the deceiver they were conforming to their already held beliefs. No wonder when they heard of this guy Jesus with all the stories of his miracles, it was very easy for them to take him as "Son of God" (and this concept later on developed in to taking him as God) as this already went hand in hand with their pagan and mythological belief system. Little wonder that those times and those places and people also had "Triads" and ancient "Trinities" and "God" in threes and stuff.
Acts 14:11
When the crowd saw what Paul had done, they shouted in the Lycaonian language, "THE GODS HAVE COME DOWN to us IN HUMAN FORM!"
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Then of course the abomination of the alleged human "sacrifice" of Jesus Christ making the Most Merciful in to some human blood thirsty vampire. Going against the very teachings of the true Prophets and that includes Jesus Christ.
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Unfortunately, it was the Pauline Christianity and Pauline falsehoods, blended with pagan doctrine and backed up by the powerful Empire that eventually won out over the years and wiped out the Jewish movement of radical monotheism.
@@Truth-Is-a-Hard-Pill good points! I have discovered the entire NT is a total fabrication of the Arrius Piso and his family members. He was a Roman Emporer. He also wrote Esther and Josephus. From an ex-christian here, based on my own personal study of the NT.
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Thank you very much for the reply.
Would you like to reason?
Come let's reason together.
A.major problem here.paul never taught the law was done away.. That man's teaching . Paul said things like the law is good holy and just. He taught that man's works could not get him saved therefore you just trying to keep the law I would not save you you would be under its curse but if you do as Jesus asked to obey the law and grow in it and use it to grow it will lead you to salvation that's what he was teaching it's man's works in men's ways they cannot get you saved it is very misunderstood probably the biggest misunderstanding in the Bible is that he did away with anything he did not. Otherwise he'd contradict Jesus Paul Peter and the rest of them which he did not they all were Jewish Christians who never left the Jewish faith they taught that Faith everyone that much is true and that's how it is today and should be today.
love the books on the shelves, can u put my name in ur will
pls include my name also
Takbir, may Allahazajawalla give Paul paradise n protect him from all types of attacks from non Muslims
Why would I follow a satan over Christ? Christ is my Lord and Savior and he condemend false prophet like muhammed.
Muhammed was worst of human being and allah was satan that deceived billions of people around the world.
I left islam and found Christ amen!
Gives good insight into Christianity
Christians deserve to know the true teaching of Jesus, and let expose the Paul invention of Bible
I love the background. Nice collection of books.
The Christian Orthodoxy is far older than citations favored by Bart Erhman. If the early Church had felt angst against the Apostle Paul, the epistles of Peter lauding Paul could never have made it into the canon. Enjoy your elephant. 🐘
Heresies were adopted very early in the process. The Ebionites, perhaps the earliest Christians at Jerusalem were know to reject Paul and he was not part of their canon.
It will be nice Paul if you can give us a brief about the source Q Quelle.
I read a bit of “ The lost gospel. The book of Q & Christian origins” by Burton L. Mack and I found it interesting .
Here is a grasp of its introduction :
Page 6-7
Once upon a time, before there were
gospels of the kind familiar to readers of the
New Testament, the first followers of Jesus
wrote another kind of book. Instead of telling a dramatic story about Jesus’ life, their book contained only his teachings.
My understanding of Paul's teaching is that in Christ, the Law is fullfilled but only in Christ as that meets the conditions which Jesus spoke of in regard to the Law not passing away until all is fullfilled. Death is the fulfillment of the Law - Jesus showed us that in a literal sense. Unless a man loses his life to gain it, he will not find it (Eternal Life). This is what Paul argued with respect to being baptized into death and raised up again in the newness of Life. There is a natural body and there is a spiritual body yet that which is first, comes last and that which is last, comes first. He that is earthy is born into the natural body first but he that is heavenly is born into the spirit body last (1 Cor 15:44) and Colossians 2:11-12. I think the confusion is that many Jews tried to ditch the Law before being baptized into death with Christ and that is a violation of the teaching of Jesus as all would not be fulfilled so neither has justification been achieved. Again, when Peter saw the vision of a blanket coming down from heaven with all manner of animals, the voice from heaven said kill and eat. Not just eat, but to kill and eat. I do not see any disunity in what Paul preached with respect to this issue thought I can see how it could easily be misconstrued.
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Just as agnostics/atheists don’t trust Christian scholars, can Christians trust agnostic/atheist scholars? Also, if Peter believed as this letter says, why does Peter accept the gentiles as Christians in Acts?
Good question
*J*SUS : "Keep Torah !..And Follow me !"*
*P*UL : "Ignore Torah !..Ignore Jesus ! ...Follow me instead."*
- Meme
Where does Jesus say "keep the Torah" And where does Paul say " ignore Jesus and follow me"
@Jomy Mathew Thank you for this great summary.
@Jomy Mathew Thank you, no wonder Christians are being attacked that much.
Go examine the authenticity of every single verse of New Testament.
Abraham, Moses, David, Solomon, Jesus and Muhammad.
*Muslims believe them all.*
I've actually been reading things and investigating this subject, and this is why James contradicts Paul. People defend it and say that they complement each other because the Bible cannot contradict itself but they do. How they're both in the Bible is beyond me. Paul's letters were written before anything else of the new testament, even before the 4 gospels so i ask myself if the gospels are actually reliable
May allah guide you and me to the truth Ameen
Wait your telling me the books like Ephesians and galatians were written before Matt mark lke and jhn?
@@Petey-se1lo yessir
Hebrew Matthew likely did exist and hence predated Greek Matthew and other gospels
@@wserthmar8908 but only that it didn't and you can investigate it for yourself. The first gospel to be written was Mark and it was still decades after Paul's Epistles
If Peter at one point did actually send such a letter, then he obviously changed his mind as the leaders in Jerusalem sent Paul out with a letter of authority to state requirements for gentiles joining the church (see Acts 15). If the person “Paul” who runs this UA-cam channel keeps pushing this constant anti-Christian nonsense then he will have to explain his apostasy before God one day. I would not like to be in his shoes!
This Paul shares the same faith of Jesus and all Messengers of The God. We don't want to be in your shoes either.
@@lovemamahouse If you think Mohammed is a messenger of God you need to listen to David Wood, Sam Shamoun & Christian Prince who prove Mohammed was a false prophet.
Here it is 3 years later and we can see why perhaps Paul stood as he did about the law that the Jews obeyed, being that the law was given by Yahweh the devil himself of the Old Testament. Being that Jesus himself said, that No man has ever see or talked to His Father in Heaven, but only Himself, as written in John 6: 46. So, who did Moses and Abraham talked to face to face.. Abraham not only feed the devil, but washed his feet!
Christ himself said circumcision was unnecessary, not just Paul.
where did Jesus say that?
@@BloggingTheology My mistake, it was Paul's interpretation of Christ that rendered circumcision unnecessary.
So thanks to Paul and Jesus, we don't have to mutilate our children for them to be saved, which leads me to believe that Paul was good.
I am not a fan of Paul and am well aware of his shortcomings, but Romans Chapter 1 remains as one of the greatest literary compositions in the New Testament and of all things written about God. "Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools..." certainly is more applicable these days than it was then.
Actually Paul quotes plato there.
The letter from Peter to James written in the 3rd century. According to Bart Erman.
So it was not written by Peter the Apostle.
I wonder how much of Peter's enmity towards Paul comes from Paul/Saul's time persecuting Jewish Christians. These days we tend to see the conversion and testimony of murderers from a pretty skeptical position. "Saul" likely persecuted/killed? some of Peter's converts.
The Ebionites, the first followers of Jesus. CALLED Paul a Liar.
QUESTION to you, sir: Do you think it likely that Peter, and possibly other apostles, had scribes?? Certainly, Paul did and he was quite educated. I, too, think this view of the letter you discussed reflects the views held by the original apostles. I just want to know what you think about these unlearned, uneducated but anointed men having scribes who travelled with them. Thank you very much.
Two years ago he made a video about the apostle Peter being critical of the apostle Paul and Peter calling him his enemy. On the UA-cam channel blogging theology
Even according to Paul’s Epistles, Peter and James were Torah observant Jews. So it is highly unlikely that Jesus wasn’t also a Torah observant Jew. It was Paul who defiled Orthodox Judaism consistently, even declaring the Torah a curse. And by doing so he is degrading and rejecting the Jewish God. It’s difficult to claim Paul’s religion was a fulfillment of Judaism when he clearly hated and totally rejected Judaism. .
Jesus himself rejected the law, by preventing a woman from being stoned when, according to the Law, she should have been, and by working on the sabbath.
Peter and Paul separated gospel in Galatians 2 : 7- 8.. his accusations Acts 21: 21.. / Titus 1 : 10..
Peter elected Mattias 12 apostle in acts 1 : 26..
The everlasting covenant Genesis 17 : 14.. Exodus 12 : 48- 49.. Joshua 5.. Ezekiel 44 : 9.. Leviticus 23 : 5.. Luke 2 : 21.. John 7 : 23.. acts 7 : 8.. acts 15: 1
From the Scriptures (the actual Word of God) Peter referred to Paul as “our beloved brother” and his writings as part of Scripture (2 Peter 3:15-16).
This is such a good topic, but I have to point out that the Letter from Peter to Paul was definitely not written by the actual Peter. There is almost unanimity among critical scholars that Peter did not write this letter, the Gospel of Peter, the Apocalypse of Peter, or even perhaps 2 Peter in the Bible. There were many who used his name to give themselves authority when writing.
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wonder what he would say about The Didache. which reportedly may have been written as early as the year 40
What's your favorite bookshop in London?
Listening to u Paul, I have to say ur reading does grab my attention. Because u speak the truth