Meta Quest 3 Outdoors Test ☀ in the Sun
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- Опубліковано 4 жов 2024
- Correction:
Beatsaber scene was "Expert" mode not "Expert+" mode as mentioned in the video.
Additional Info:
1.) Under developer options you can turn off security boundaries. This disables the ability to use pass-through mode in the home environment. However in many mixed reality apps it works and the annoying warning can be disabled this way.
2.) The max guardian area on Quest 3 is around 10x10 meters or 100 square since I did 12 steps (step size slightly below 1 meter).
3.) I don't know what determines the orientation of the play area, my guess would be the direction you look when resetting the home screen by pressing the meta button before the set up process of the boundary.
4.) Using the headset without a face cushion seems to work a bit better with the BOBOVR M3 halo head strap which is more stable then the cheap one I currently use.
5.) The safety and warranty guide of Quest 3 contains a warning regarding outside use: It says:
"Not recommended for use outdoors. Because of uncontrolled hazards to arise (for example, uneven slippery surfaces, weather conditions and unexpected objects/vehicles/people/animals). Lighting conditions that are too bright may prevent your Quest's sensors and navigation safety features from working optimally, and may lead to tracking loss."
In my testing running fast and elevation changes can lead to issues plane fields even with monotone green surrounding worked very well.
Tested review of Quest 3: youtu.be/watch...
Meta Quest 3 - 128GB version is what I use and recommend over PlayStation VR2 and the PC VR googles.
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You can support my future tests and save money on games yourself using my friend referral codes below. Also if you buy a new headset you can use the headset referral code which gives both of us 30$ in Meta Quest Store credit when you use the referral link before setting up the headset.
Link is created with my German account. If you get an error opening the link saying "not valid" see below to learn how to find working links for your country)
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You can probably still get the 30$ even after you bought the headset. You have a few days time window to reset your headset to factory settings via this page secure.oculus.... and after resetting go through the normal referral process. The links seem to be country specific and it might only work with completely new accounts.
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Grips:
I use the VRCover ones but they need to be modified (sand paper) in the grip button area to be comfortable.
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Look out for upcoming quest 3 versions. The Quest 2 ones fit but you need to clamp in the safety lanyard to prevent slipping.
Facial Interfaces:
Look out for Quest 3 versions from VRCover. The leather ones for Quest 2 were excellent and available in different thicknesses to increase field of view + holes for better ventilation reducing lenses fogging.
Headstraps:
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Controller Rechargable Batteries
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Thank you for posting this video. I applaud your curiosity!
I am glad you liked it and found it somewhat usefull.
THANK YOU FOR DOING THIS SO I DIDNT HAVE TO RISK MINE
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Good testing. Pushing the boundaries a little bit,
Very interesting test, thanks! It would be fun to see if you could scale a window so big that you could walk to the other side of the field and still use the huge window in the other end 🙂
It should work. Do you have a special use case in mind for such an app or would you just like to have the biggest monitor in the world?
Harry Potter fußball, that's hilarious 🤣. It would be marvellous to get a lot of people outside to play something using a VR headset.
Your outdoor experiment was very informative; I have only briefly tried to go outside today in the very bright sunshine here in Canberra, with similar results to yours. It certainly looks like the Quest3 is capable of being used outside, as long as it isn't raining of course.
Of course it works. The only thing you risk using it outside is the lens in the eye sockets will pinpoint the Sunlight to a point, and burn pixels on the display screen, possibly causing the whole screen to burn up if left on long enough. It only takes a few seconds as well. I tried it with my old oculus quest headset.
Thank you very much for your test/review! This was exactly what I wanted to know. I also have a way too small living space to play certain games (like Superhot) and wanted to play outside, only to find that was not possible with the Quest 2. This is 1 of the reasons, I was looking to upgrade to Quest 3 and you now showed me it is not only possible, but works great! PS: If you start from the middle, you should be able to go further away on all sides of the field, before the warning starts. ;)
I am glad you liked it.
Yes if you want to avoide seeing the popup you should wait until you get the popup once, then go to the middle of your play area and then aknowladge the popup warning to make the middle of your play area the new starting point.
I haven't spend much time researching these popup warnings and if it is possible to turn them off, maybe there is a simple switch in the settings somewhere.
I don't even know if there is any game that can make use of the massive pass through mode. I only know of the zombis in your house and the Space Pirate Trainer DX games which make use of passthrough and could benefit from a large playarea.
Most games available are designed to be used with a fixed boundery setup and the max boundery area of around 10x10 meters (100 square meters).
But also on Quest 2 there where the experimental settings which allowed you to disable the guardian system.
Mybe its possible set up a normal guardian area, then disable the boundery warnings in the experimental mode and then use the whole footbal field without getting these popups. Maybe these popups are only used in the pass through mode. Looks like more testing is needed and I need to produce a follow up video.
I also found out that when trying to use the scan your room app that comes pre installed on quest 3 and I try to scan a whole sports hall the scanning just fails with a strange error even thow it scanned and recognised all the walls of the sports hall. So there are still bugs in the software, seems like Meta has not put a focus on large playspace areas.
This is gonna destroy your lenses on the front maybe not now but I'd go to a gym
@@123glass7
You are right camera lenses can be demaged by sunlight. The demage happens if the sensor gets to hot. Big lenses in professional cameras can have big magnifications and there this is relevant.
Small cameras however do not create so much heat and in general there is no problem even when you take pictures of the sun with your phone.
I dont see why it should be different with the cameras in the VR headset. I personally do not worry about it.
@@mrfairact8662is on quest website “The sun's rays can cause permanent damage to the front part of the headset, the lenses, and the screen inside. Don't place your Meta Quest 3 near a window or anywhere direct sunlight can hit the lens. Be sure to protect your headset when you aren't actively using it.”
Love the video man, good testing. I have one question did anyone see you do this, becasue it would be funny to see someone with big glasses do little dance in a park. Keep it up man.
Because of the passthrough you can now see people watching you. Even funnier if they don't know that you know that they dont know 😁
I was hopeing with the rgb cameras that it would be ok for dicrect sunlight and it wouldn’t ruin the lenses thanks for the info
Danke für den Video. Ich habe immer draußen spielen wollen. Ich glaube ich werde es jetzt machen 😊
Freut mich wenn es geholfen hat. Ich liebe es auch die möglichkeit draußen zu spielen, besonders jetzt im Sommer.
Great video man you're cool! I hope to see more quest 3 outside vids!
Thanks. I made one video playing Arizona Sunshine 2 outdoors which is not a mixed reality game but still fun. There are no good mixed reality games that I would like to play outside. The quest is not ment to be taken outside so no developer is making games for this use case. But I showed that VR games work as well however it is also a bit dangerous because you dont see the surrounding.
Interested observations. Thanks. This really helps.
The maximum zone check is interesting. Probably with reasons due floats for games. Very big areas have extreme floats and so calculation errors will happens. This is why you cannot go bigger. If someone want do room games with it, they need make sure room is slight smaller than maximum zone.
That might be true. I also tried the app that comes on the Quest 3 which allows you to scan multiple rooms or the whole house and creates a boundery system automatically when you finished scanning all the walls of your rooms.
I tried it in a huge sports hall but it always failled to finish the setup process and told me I have to rescan the playspace.
My current hypothesis is that the sports hall I tryed to scann was to big. I will retry after the next updates, because I think this is a bug which might get resolved in the future. Since I would like to play in sports halls it would be nice to save them, rescanning these large halls takes a long time.
Thanks for testing this, tried it today in the Scottish winter on a cloudy day in a forest, and the hand tracking didn’t work perfectly, the finger pinch menu was glitching and the icon was flashing, also it hated the slope of the forest and it wanted a ‘room’ with walls. Going to test it some more, going to avoid sunny days though I don’t want to break it
I did not notice the hand tracking to be noticably worse. But even indoors I dont use it since it is to inaccurate and using the controllers is so mich better. Apple seems to bet everything on handtracking but meta seems not to focus on that to much.
I don't see any reason why hand tracking should be worse outside. The ligting is probably much better so I would even expect the hand tracking to work better.
Outside lighting even on cloudy days is significantly brighter then normal indoor lighting.
The only reason to make it worse I can think of is when the sun blinds the camera and the image is to bright to see anything.
hey@@VR_Wizard thanks for the reply, I find this a VERY interesting area of research
I've found hand tracking really cool for certain tasks, I like the minimalism of it, I hate having the faff of the controllers
hand gestures can open up a whole new world of UX for computing
I will be watching apple very closely, but not wanting to spent $3500 on it soon!
I did some more tests on quest3 today, and its a bug in my unity app somehow I think
hand tracking works OK in the oculus menus when I use it outside
my app works fine indoors
but there is some weird factor that makes my app weird outdoors, the physics are off and the pinch menu glitches too
might be a clash with other features in my app like the depth API which I find a bit glitchy sometimes (its experimental)
@@tompainter7167 Awesome to hear that you devolop apps for Quest. If you have a working app and you want some feedback feel free to drop a link to the apk file. I hope they will improve the hand tracking in the future just like they did on the Quest 2 over the years. I am not even sure if they use the laser sensor time of flight sensor for hand tracking. I think SadlyItsBradly once said they dont use it yet which would explain why it is not as good as I expected with all the great hardware upgrades Quest 3 comes with.
thanks @@VR_Wizard I'm building a new website soon and I'll link to that when I'm done. building lots of micro-apps at the moment, just to test features out on for now, as there is so much to learn.
Thanks, bro!
You really went outside and played a game where you stand still lol
Beat Saber is great for controller tracking that's the reason I showed it. Movement was tested only with the menu since it allowed for pass-through. At time of review I did not own any mixed reality game that requires walking. There is no marked for this either so programmers do not develop for it. But on side quest there are some early tech demos one could use.
@@VR_Wizard can you test a game outside like a shooting game I’m too scared to try my quest 3 outside, with a big play space you can actually move around and not rely on joystick couldn’t find any videos like that on UA-cam
@@VR_Wizard old of tested out spacial ops on side quest u can play against boy and u could of made the field or court a giant tactical shooter arena. Maybe another video showcasing it if u think it might be interesting I’m sure it would get plenty of views and it is a great tracking test!
Has anyones quest 3 broke from playing it outside?
You would need to expose the lense to direct sunlight for a min or so, I use my quest 3 in my garden, no issues, I've had racing drones for 10 years and direct light can damage the lense in the fpv head sets, never had any damage, just use common scene and don't set it down where the sun can burn the lenses.
Are you recording the audio with an external mic? if not sounds pretty good. I can't figure out how to record audio in pass through. Pretty wild hehe I wanna try going outside too
Was recorded on Quest 3 directly. Even before the update to the microphone. That was a big issue because many testers noticed that everything on quest 3 was better only the microphone was not. So I think nowdays the microphone is even better.
@@VR_Wizard I noticed just recently it defaults to no sound when recording video. I always have to go into the camera app to say sound on before recording. Not sure how to set it to default.
Did the cameras get damaged?
Nope I am still using it sometimes outdoors mostly indoors the cameras are fine.
any way to disable the moved too far warning?
Start Developer mode, then turn off security boundaries in system Settings
@@MedienGulliThanks. Thats great news. I added your finding to the description.
Hey i wanna ask is it 128 GB or 512 GB?
I bought the cheapest one 128GB. Sometimes i have to delete apps to play a new one but thats ok for me if you want the convenience to have your favourite games installed all times and have enough free space to install new games at all times get the larger version. If you also want to store movies on the headset a larger version might be helpfull but you can also stream them from your phone or use big screen a streaming app and watch 3d movies there.
@@VR_Wizard oh thank you for responding :)
Hey @VR_WIZARD
does meta quest 3 work on the outside?
Yes works very well, as good as indoors.
Who do they recommend not playing outside? Looks like it works good
Because the lenses inside might get damaged due to the suns rays if youre not careful...at least in Quest 2. Dunno about the Quest 3 though.
@@agilezero5457same thete actually even worse duo to the new lenses but meta should give users the discission to turn that OFF
The lenses on the inside of Quest 3 will very likely also act like magnifing glasses and demage the screen when the sun has enough time to heat up the displays. But I think Metas main concern and why thy do not recommend outside use is safty. If you have the face cussion installed and the screen goes black you are blind and you might fall. Then people will blame Meta for releasing a product that is unsafe to use oudide. And I agree running with a headset that can turn black at any minute can be dangerous if it happens in the wrong situation. However I see no danger in standing still or walking slowly you would do the same when playing indoors.
@@VR_Wizard Oh of course, safety reasons. I forgot about that.
nigga did NOT read the manual
Has anyone been able to get rid of that security warning and still have pass through? When I disable boundary in dev settings it disables pass through completely.
I would also like to know and I am planing to make my next video about it. I am currently in the research phase for this. I think as a developer in the game engine you have more abilities to change that. For example on Lego Bricktales when switching to AR mode and walking away you also get a warning but it is a different one and the warning does not destroy the 3d scene. So this means developer seem to be able to change or disable this warning in their AR apps or AR apps do not get this warning altogether and the developers of bricktails introduced the warning themself which seems like the most plausable explaination to me.
Video is great, but my suggestion is to change the thumbnail. I'm searching for a review of Meta Quest 3 outside video. To be honest, your thumbnail looks like an 8-bit game video.
Thanks for the feedback. If I find time I will think of a way to make it more representative of the video content.
I'm more impressed with those beat saber skills
Refined over the years, preparing for this moment 😉
could you play at night outdoor with Quest 3? Forest trees
On 2 you can by external Lazer so controllers work at night
On Quest 2 people used infrared flashlights atrached to the headset to play at night. Might also work with Quest 3 since it also has a few infrared diodes on the controller so at least the bottom cameras can see infrared. Not sure about the 2 cameras on eye level. You need to light the surrounding as well since otherwise the headtracking will not work. It might even be possible to Use Quest 3 as night vision googles since our eyes do not see infrared light but the cameras in the Quest can use it.
Is your vr still working?
Yes. Like new.
@@VR_Wizard thanks!
hmmm..well,your eyeballs never fell out or got burned..lol..cool that it works in the outside areas.
I tried Quest 3 outdoors and the clouds have warping effect. It seems that you have the same effect, don't you ? ua-cam.com/video/d5JFx3OS6Ac/v-deo.html
Strong warping around objects close to the headset is normal. For example around the hands. I did not notice it in far away objects like the clouds. But I haven't looked for it actively. The video quality of the Quest 3 internal recording is not perfect and does not represent the real look of the passthrough. I would not make to many assumptions about the passthrough performance from recordings of the passthrough because all the artefacts and the low quality
@@VR_Wizard Maybe it's the trees around the soccer pitch that have interfered with the cameras, or maybe it's a software bug. I'll have to play outside only when the sky is perfectly clear, which increases the risk of damaging the lenses, but I have no other solution.
Thanks for your reply.
I tested it a few days ago again and also saw the clouds wobble a lot. The passthroug of two lenses is used to create a 3D image so what you see is not direct pass through alorithms run over the video feed and generate the passthrough image. Clouds seems something it strughlez with and hands very close to the cameras.
Was there any sun damage? Does the outside damage it in any way?
There was no damage I spend about an hour in direkt sunlight.
Also I used Quest 2 in direkt sunlight before and there was also no damage.
Just don't expose the lenses to sunlight and it's fine.
The problem seems to be limited to the display lenses. These are like burning glasses. The lenses outside should be the opposite, since they are wide- angle lenses.
But if I was Meta, I would also not advise to use it outside to avoid accidents (I just say: PR).
You should've tried to sell the menu to someone. Lol.