I would go as far as saying 100% Hertz and 0% Polestar. I have recently rented a polestar in the exact same location. My issue was that we were given zero info on how or where to charge. This was especially difficult as coming from the UK I could not download any of the charge point apps, when I could I was unable to use a British bank card, add to the fact that the car did not come with a home charger I spent the entire trip panicking about where to top up. I contacted hertz and all they did to support was give me locations of charge points I could not use or were broken. The car itself was perfect!
I had a “normal” car reserved at Hertz for a recent week long business trip. My flight was a bit delayed so I arrived at the Providence (RI) airport later than planned and the only car Hertz had left was a Model 3. It only had about 35% of a charge and the location I was visiting had ZERO level 2 chargers, much less any fast chargers. It was late and I wanted to get to my room, so I took the car. Fortunately, the hotel where I was staying had a 120V outlet close enough to the parking lot so that I could use the Level 1 charger that was (thankfully) still in the trunk. I wasn’t driving pre than about 10-12 miles per day when there, so the slow charge was adequate, but it did cause me some extra stress on the trip. I enjoyed driving the electric car, but would have enjoyed it more under different circumstances. Sending a customer out with a low charge to begin with was a bum move, too.
I handle charging for Hertz at PHX, and it's disturbing how many Teslas get rented out without the charging kit and/or the Tesla charging adapter. The customers don't know to make sure they have it before they leave, and most employees either don't know it's supposed to be there or care enough to check.
Just rented and drove my first EV ever and it’s a Polestar 2 from Hertz. When I was checking out the woman mentioned something about gas, I said, “this is an EV”, she was like, “oh”. Needless to say there was zero help about anything, I pretty much had to figure everything out on the fly. Thankfully, UA-cam videos like yours have been very helpful!
No, it really sounds like HERTZ did put people in jail by reporting the cars stolen when the were legitimate rental’s within the rental periods, they messed up ( Hertz ) and those people didn’t deserve to be treated as criminals.
@@supersai4198 It sounds like you’re not familiar with what everyone is talking about. Do some research. Hertz is known to rent cars to people, then arrest them after, saying they stole the car. The cases become nightmares. In one, they threw a man in jail for six full months! He lost his job and his house. In one case, the person never even rented a car from Hertz. I’d rather Uber than rent a car from Hertz.
Hertz has been sued for the false arrest of their customers due to problematic paperwork issues. It sounds like what you described as your pickup experience is exactly why I don't rent from Hertz. You would think since all the National attention that story got they would have jumped on making corrections but it doesn't appear that way.
Considering how often Hertz has legitimate renters arrested and jailed for stealing cars which they have already paid for and turned back in to Hertz, I think it went pretty well for you.
We had a similar story and it is a long one. My wife had an urgent trip to Harrisburg, PA in early 2023, she booked a car using one of those discounted websites and got a confirmation from Hertz. Once landed she headed to the car renting counter and after a long wait she received the last car on the lot, and it was a Polestar. Being know nothing about electric cars she called me for help because Hertz's agent did not show her how to operate the car. After a quick Google search, I was able to instruct her to start the car, and she was on her way to her destination 60 miles ago away from the nearest city. After reaching her destination, the car showed that it now had about 90 miles of range left. I urged her to go find a charge station the next day. This is where the fun started, she stayed at a small suburb when the nearest Chargepoint is about 40 miles away, and since she had used up some of the ranges through the day she only had about 20 miles left according to the car. She found a Shell station that has its own charger, after fumbling with the app she had to put in $20 for the initial opening, and after a long phone call with me, she was able to make the car charge. She then waited and waited for over 2 hours then called me again saying there was only 10% up so far. I then told her to wait so it has enough charge to get to the hotel and the trip back to the airport, which took her another 2 hours to the wee hours of the night in a strange town (good thing it was at Shell station which she was able to wait inside). For the rest of the trip, she called Uber. The good thing was she only spent $2 on an electric charge for almost 200 miles of use, the bad thing was the remaining $18 is of no use nor refunded. Oh, she did not know how to operate all the other functions of the car so she left them in whatever it was set at. The morals of the story are, one, do not rent an electric car if you are not familiar with it; two, do not fall for cheap rental advertisements on the web. Third, do not buy an electric car until there is infrastructure in place everywhere and the charging is as closely fast as filling up a gas tank.
I rented Polestar 2 from Hertz at Eindhoven airport and everything went as smooth as possible. I received the car with 94% battery and returned it with about 50%. I asked about charge level on return and they said that I don't have to worry about that and there is no fee for charge level difference. Hertz staff gave me hertz tag which I used to pay for charging at any charging station anywhere in Netherlands. No credit card needed what so ever. After returning the car they charged me about 23 euro for 500km traveled with Polestar 2.
hahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! So as we now know - Hertz clerks manning the front desk HAVE NO CLUE how to either operate the electric TOY car or what to charge for battery status when the TOY is returned!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! No doubt some senior mechanic will add a re-charge fee to your revised credit card bill at a later date!!!!!!
@@abellseaman4114 You are so wrong my friend you can't imagine how much. She was very well informed about specifications of Polestar 2 and we had one very nice and profound conversation about the difference between Polestar and Kia e-Niro, which was my initial rental vehicle. We even touch Tesla Model 3 talking about the differences. I've never met any woman that well informed about cars in general. Hertz returned me deposit on my credit card so after a couple of months from visiting Netherlands i consider everything done. Maybe, just maybe a speeding ticket or two if any camera recorded me.
@@mitrovskiigi So, Hertz in the Netherlands as their act together while Hertz in the USA hasn't figured it out. That Hertz gave you a card to use for charging and handled the billing seems wonderful and apparently didn't gouge you for the service.
Thank you for wasting our time by offering that LIE-beral electric TOY car nonsense propaganda!!!!!!! The reported experiences of multiple electric TOY car users make your comments ABSURD!!!!!!!!!!!
Sounds like the gripe is more with the Hertz location and the charging network than Hertz in general or with the car. I rented a Tesla Model 3 in London and again in the US. Positive experience both times. The first time in London, they took 15 minutes to go over driving an EV in general and the specifics of the Model 3. Both times, they carefully explained the charge level to return it at and the $35 option. Charging at a Tesla fast charger was brain dead easy. Pull up, plug it in, charge, and leave. No app, no hassle.
I rented a Tesla from Hertz a couple of months ago from the Orlando airport. Prior to making the reservation I called Hertz to ask what the charge return level policy was (70%) because, like you, I couldn’t find it on the website. I initially thought of renting the Polestar as I had never been in one before, but found there were no compatible chargers in the area I would be staying. There was however a Tesla charging station less than 2 miles away, charged there twice and at another station with no issues. Charging fees will get added to your final rental costs, no need to mess around with credit cards, apps or accounts. I didn’t get any instructions on how to use the Tesla from Hertz but I had driven them a few times before so no problem. Was disappointed I had no way of connecting with the Tesla app. Otherwise no problems, pleasure to drive, and I would do it again.
EVs only make sense as a commuter car and when you can charge at home with low cost electricity. My electric rate is only 10.5c/kwh delivered so it costs about 1/3 of what gas costs. Sadly, this is not the case for most locations in the US.
Zelbug - The manufactures of EV cars direct their focus on exactly drivers like you, not the rental car market. I imagine you rarely if ever use a commercial charging station. That is exactly the goal.
My problem with the electric car market .... my story : I work at a large power plant - one of the biggest in the USA. I noticed a few guys had bought electric cars. I tried a couple of them out and determined I want one. Here was the best part - we have chargers here at work where workers can charge up - FOR FREE. This sealed the deal for me (go ahead and jerk around the price of gasoline , i won't have to care !). So i start my search for an decent AFFORDABLE electric car. GOOD LUCK WITH THAT. the very week I began my search , GM announces they are discontinuing production of the Bolt. Then they announce they are putting their efforts into electric trucks , SUVs and Cadillacs. meaning - WE DON'T WANT YOU BUYING A ELECTRIC FOR 30,000 dollars - WE WANT TO SELL YOU ONE FOR 70,000 AND UP... ! -- DEAL KILLER FOR ME. In short , they don't want the average person in these products,only the ones willing to mortgage their home to buy one....... just another toy for the affluent.
Cheaper to buy a Tesla Model 3 than a Camry and to own than a Corolla within 5 years 60k miles in many states. The standard Model 3 is listed on the Tesla website as having a manufacturer's suggested retail price of $32,740 after the EV tax credit is applied. With the added state rebate, the list price drops down to $25,240 in California!
@@Neojhun BS. You know that is not true. A gas tank will not ignite, batteries can and so. Problem is water will not put the batter fire out. It's a whole different kind of fire.
@@Neojhun Read on - Data obtained through a Freedom of Information (FOI) request revealed that in 2019 the London Fire Brigade dealt with 54 electric vehicle fires compared with 1,898 petrol and diesel fires. Vehicle registration numbers from the Department for Transport (DfT) show there are 50,000-plus plug-in cars licensed in the capital out of a total 4.63 million licensed cars. Looking at the London Fire Brigade data, that would suggest an incident rate of 0.04% for petrol and diesel car fires, while the rate for plug-in vehicle is more than double at 0.1%. So far this year, there have been 1,021 petrol and diesel fires and 27 EV fires in the capital.
@@bondgabebond4907 "A gas tank will not ignite" is blatantly false, sure it does not start there but it can leak and be ignited by external source. Gas / Petrol can have a concussive fireball effect that expands at blistering speed no human can outrun. Meanwhile Battery fires just Flame slowly giving time for the occupants to crawl away.
@@andyduhamel1925 FYI that "50,000" includes a large proportion of PHEV with Petrol Engines and Fuel Tanks. 69,172 is the total number of Plug In vehicles in 2021. Most likely 50K was around year 2020 where Pure Electric BEVs were not the majority of Plug In vehicles. But lets ignore the fact some of those may also have petrol onboard to push a false agenda.
I was talking to a Guy in Windermere in the Lakes UK , he was having a problem trying to charge his Polstar ev , he had rented it from Hertz after arriving from the US , he was given no instructions and he had never driven an ev before , this car had ruined his and his family’s holiday , the cost of charging a car in the UK is very expensive and problematic, and you would be lucky getting these charges to work , he said the only good thing that came out of this is that he would never buy an ev car .
When I started renting vehicles back in the 90’s I did my due diligence and researched all the mainstream companies and Hertz was immediately a no-go….higher rates and caps on mileage, and even though they had better choices, still wasn’t worth it. After watching this, apparently they still aren’t! Wasn’t it also Hertz that was having customers mistakingly arrested over glitches, etc. in their system awhile back?
I wanted to try out an EV, so I rented a Nissan Leaf on Turo. I needed to download multiple apps, constantly searching for an available charger (range anxiety), wasting time using slow, expensive chargers. And both hills and a/c significantly cut range in this car. No thanks. Keep your hassle.
You rented what has to be the most rubbish of rubbish EVs. Similarly, I could rent some shonky low rent cheap as chips Skoda and pronounce all Petrol and diesel cars are therefore rubbish as well. Ironically, I went to an ASDA supermarket here in the UK and was presented with a pump that only accepted credit cards. No attendant and for some reason at 11pm, none of the bloody things worked. All the pumps were not accepting cards.
Trying to use an electric car without having a charger at your home is pointless. Who has 45 minutes to sit at a gas station? That’s the issue with electrics, they are only really viable for homeowners in single family houses.
Various other communities outside of single family homes are setting up chargers for their residents. EV's are the future but if you are considering buying one take the time to read up on it. It's a little bit of a change in lifestyle so it's best to understand it before buying.
@@sailorx72 Nope. EV will never be a main stream cars. Try to convince most Americans to switch to EV. Let's talk in 20 years. In short, not going to happen. 10-20% max of market will be EV in USA.
@@MichaelBushey wrong. Americans will go with what is more convenient. Until such time when charging stations will be available at every corner and charging time is comparable with current time to fill the tang of gas, EV will be exotic vehicles 🚗. Sure, some areas will reach perhaps 10%. But rural USA, nope.
@@sunshadow9704 every corner is way too far away. I charge in my garage, and it takes a few seconds to plug in and unplug. Gas stations are a huge time suck.
Had one in Italy for 34 days.....was same price as a Mini so opted for the Polestar luxury...watched video before i left on how to use the controls and planned my trip re chargers....many free ones in Italy....had a blast with it
lol, you fly your cessna from your house to the grocery store? It's not less complicated than driving an EV, you are just used to it. It might be less compliicated that dealing with Hertz, though.
Not for everyone I might agree, but only necessary if you cannot charge at home. In fact having to drive to a gas station and wait in line now seems archaic to me. On longer trips we top the car up for 20 minutes every couple of hours, whilst having a burger or coffee. The only issue is the availability of chargers, a combination of roadside charging and destination chargers makes it pretty effortless, but if there is no destination charger then it can be a pain. Hotel owners take note!
1 hour? - luxury! - In the winter, that's 2+ hours to warm up the battery and the range drops to 75 miles at motorway speeds with the heating on. The Tesla superchargers are also nearly double the price per mile vs diesel, in the UK anyway.
Can we all agree that the push for chargers to not have a card reader on them but instead apps are the worst thing ever? Like seriously, imagine if I needed an app to use a vending machine, I'd never use it. And hey, many gas stations have app support, you ever seen anyone use them?
That's their plan. When shit hits the fan they can just switch off peoples' ability to re-fuel their cars. We saw glimmers of it with the Covid shutdowns. A good way to keep people trapped in their own home or in their own local community is to disable their ability to purchase fuel. That's why they hate people buying gas with cash.
@@casmatoriif they wanted to do that, they don't need an app. They could simply disable the chargers... But everything has to be a conspiracy, doesn't it?
This past October, I rented an EV from Hertz on my Boston trip. I initially reserved a Tesla Model 3 but was given a Polestar 2 instead. The Hertz rep told me as long as it was over 20%, I didn't bring the car trashed or a total wreck, I wasn't going to be charged any penalties. I returned the car back at 64% clean, and in one piece. The Hertz rep kept to his word and I was not charged any penalties. I did not mind at all because Polestar gave me the feel of a regular car and not the extra bells and whistles a Tesla offers. It was only for 24 hours but I completely fell in love with Polestar. So much when I came back home, I purchased one. It was my first experience with an EV and I found it to be very intuitive. I don't have a charger installed and I really don't mind going to a charging station because there is one behind my corner grocery store and I plan my charging on the days I have to do my shopping. Yes, I'm fully aware not everyone has this convenience. And, like any other car, you got to sit with the manual and learn everything about it. Reading some of the comments of folks here; I'm sorry but EV's are going to be the future whether we like it or not. Not to sound all snarky but imagine the horse and carriage folks saying "America is not ready for the auto-mobile" or "I'll just stick to my ol trusty carriage" ; and I'm sure there were people who said something similar because they were against cars. The point I'm trying to get with this is, you can't stop progress. Yes, EV industry has still a lot to improve, the same way cars in it's infancy had their issues to face. But the work has to be a collaborative effort between the needs of the business and of the consumers. Oil industry is not very sustainable so we need to find alternatives.
After all the news stories of Hertz having people arrested, why is anyone still renting from them? I'm a former Gold member as well. Will never rent from them again.
I rented a Model 3 from Hertz RSW in Fort Myers FL and it was Nothing but positive. Great range, clean car and easy to charge. They gave it to me at 85% SOC which was more than enough to get to my destination. Mine went well. Should’ve gotten a Tesla. My average range was 4.2 miles per KWH with AC on. Very impressive.
This is the first video of any electic vehicle being charged and the process and problems that comes with doing so . Thank you ! Adding this info to my knowledge of possibly getting an EV .
I was in Denmark last week and rented a Polestar 2 from Avis. It went well and I only charged at Tesla Superchargers as I already have the app and know the stations. Had no problems what so ever with the car or the rental agency. I liked the car, but I felt it was a bit cramped, and I agree with you about the poor visibility, also from the side windows. I like my Tesla Model Y better. 😊
So you can get a hefty fine for using your mobile device while driving , but it seems ok to use the device built into the vehicle while driving. Isn't that just as dangerous?.
Oh boy. Who would want this painful charging experience? And waiting an hour???? Instead of filling up in 2 minutes? Never ever ever ever. That said, I googled the info about returning hertz electric car, took me one second to find the answer that took this guy hours to find out. Maybe didn't use google?
Rented the same car from Hertz : rented with 200 miles of range - returned at 140 miles of range remaining, I told the guy when I returned it that I didn't have a chance to recharge : he said have a nice day.
I rented the dual motor version of the same car and had a terrific experience. The Courtyard I stayed at offered free charging, but National didn't even require that I bring it back charged. The tremendous torque of the motors was addictive. The car's style and driving experience were fantastic.
Totally different experience with the same vehicle from Hertz UK. Rentals are reasonably priced, everything explained about the Polestar2 before departure and advice to bring back the car 75% charged, it is a beautiful car that is quite economical.
Great Car had one for a few hours to do what I wanted did a mixture of city, motorways and backroads and it’s impressive how well it hides its weight. Leaving Cars behind certainly didn’t get old. Screen Nav and auto pilot system worked well.
What Hertz should do is make a deal with charging providers so that you only have to plug the car in to the charger. The charger would then detect that this is a rental car and contact Hertz for a payment contract for this car. Hertz knows who rented the car so they can put the charging cost on the bill of the rental car to be paid when you return the car. From the end user's perspective, all you'd need to do is plug it in and then everything is automatic. edit: although having watched the whole video it looks like Hertz is a terrible company to deal and are clearly not interested in maintaining a good relationship with their customers so they are not going to do anything to make it easier.
@@Rocketsong Perfectly fine in AUS on 110c days. Then again we do not have Electrify America borked chargers here. Winter sucks though I just hate the cold, the chargers work fine as long you've been driving the car and it's already at temp.
Now thats a fast KIA. Heck it takes me a good five minutes to put 15 gallons of gas in my tank if I am paying at the pump. Closer to fifteen if I go in, grab a drink and wait in line to pay for drinks/snacks and pre pay for the gas.
Next time rent a Tesla. No hassle charging. Works every time. It's why Ford, GM, Rivian, and Lucid, with Hyundai soon to follow, are changing over to Tesla's NACS and getting access to the Supercharger network.
Just wanted to say thank you for reinforcing all of the things that I know I don’t like about the electric car delusion. If you have nowhere to go, and by no particular time, you could probably put up with spending 45 minutes and multiple attempts just to try to get your car charged up…whereas I can go to my Wawa, put in 12 gallons of regular gasoline in under three minutes, and be on my way. I have no idea what a polestar is, but I have a feeling that I know where our government wants to put that pole.
40 minutes waiting for recharge 34 to 90% that's about half tank on regular car 22 bucks ?? I fill up my car half tank in less than2 minutes for 17 dollars more and saved 38 minutes!!!!!!!
Would have been half that time if he charged to 80%. All EVs fast charge to 80%, then slow right down for the remaining 20% due safety reasons and protecting the battery.
I rented a P2 twice in Fort Myers. Didn't have any problems like yours... It was a blast to drive... Faster than my mustang rentals including the GTH. And in the middle of FL, it was only .135¢ /kWh. So 65 minutes from 28% on the highspeed charger cost about $7.50 Those east coast prices are just like NY/NJ! Crazy. The best is, charging at home. Side note; just call the 800 number on the charger and you can get charging that way, no need for the app.
@@markvincent5992 Don't buy a Ford or GM. Tesla's are blowing away legacy auto because they're much cheaper and better. $75K will get you a pair of Model 3s
I feel like your only real problem was the pickup process from Hertz. The charging snafu was Electrify America's fault (well-known--that's why everyone is going with Tesla), and the amount of charge you need on return should be obvious: the same as you left with.
The one nice thing about charging, even if it takes a while, is that plenty of shopping centers, malls, office buildings, restaurants, grocery stores, etc. have cheap/free charging. So, people can charge while doing something else.
Yep Polestar 2 was not designed ground up for high performance Level 3 DC Fast charging. Many other BEVs are much better, 30 Minutes for a 10 to 85% charge giving 240 miles range should be the industry standard.
My husband rented a Polestar 2 on our most recent trip to Orlando for spring break. We own a Tesla model 3, so we are already experienced EV drivers. Everything you said in this video was spot on, the car itself was fine, but the charging experience and Hertz rental felt very early adopter. Great video, we would not rent an EV going forward, travelers do not need this level of stress, it’s just too painful.
The title for this video….”it did not go well”…is very misleading. The Polestar is fine. What didn’t go well is how Hertz handled your rental. I had similar issues with Hertz at Heathrow/London. But the Polestar performed great, and no issues with charging in the UK (used shell and BP stations to re-charge). However Hertz @Heathrow Airport was horrible…from having to wait 90 minutes before i even got helped, and then providing no assistance on how to use the car, and finally, nickel and dimming me on everything when I returned the car a week later. i had a small scrape on the wheel rim that I got while parking, and Hertz charged me $200 for the repair. Every car rental company I have ever used, treats minor scratchers on the tire rim as “normal wear and tear”…but not Hertz.
I had a 2014 BMW i3 from 2018 until 3 months ago, the battery degraded to the point that I did not feel comfortable selling the car private party. Instead, I did what any frustrated petrolhead would do, I traded it on a used 2014 BMW M5. I would say that is the exact polar opposite of the i3. No regrets at all, I will not miss the i3 at all and can honestly say, that was my last electric car.
On my second Tesla after 5 yrs, travel regularly, never had a problem with Tesla superchargers. They are seamless, now charge 20- 80% in about 15-20 mins
I agree, if you can't charge at home. If you have to rely solely on public charging, you could be in for a similar experience to this video. To do it for a short period, just to 'try it out', would be a fun learning experience, but, to have to deal with this all the time, I don't think I would get an EV. Since I can charge at home, my next car WILL be an EV. It costs me $.08 per mile to drive my Toyota Prius, (gasoline $4.00 per gallon) It cost me $.0285 per mile, to drive a 2023 Chevy Bolt EUV, charging at home, (Electricity, $.114 per kWh) That's just over 1/3 the cost of gasoline in one of the best hybrids out there. The Prius averages about 50 MPG, the Bolt EUV averaged about 4 miles per kWh, measured at the outlet I plugged it into. "Plug to Pavement". Public charging, different story! If I charged at $.50 per kWh, it costs EXACTLY $.08 per mile to drive the Bolt, The same as the Prius!! With the Prius, you can do a "splash and dash", get 250 miles of range in less than 3 minutes, 1/10 the time it would take, to get even 150 miles in an EV battery.
His experience with the car was actually excellent. It's the rental company and car charging options in that area that ruined his experience. I drive an EV and charge at home or work and I would highly recommend it. If you have to use public chargers, then it gets potentially bad because public EV chargers are currently somewhat unreliable. They should become much more reliable in the next coming years though since they'll need high reliability to take the subsidies.
@@peterkn2 Hopefully someday. Currently most people that live in a condo or apartment or rent their house don't have the option to charge at home and most people do not have the option at work either.
Never had a problem refueling my diesel car with a credit card? Doesn't take 45 mins to fill with 51% to get me 270 miles. I can put in 11 gals in 5 mins and do 600 miles. His electricity cost him 12.2c/mile. My Mazda 2 diesel costs 6.9c/mile. A Tesla costs $60000 and my Mazda costs $20,000 . Why on earth would I buy an electric car - unless I had my brain removed.
The country is still on a learning curve regarding EV's - A bit of a novelty for rental caar companies. I'm not ready to jump - I like quick fill-ups, headroom, rural driving, simple credit card purchases. I guess I'll leave it to the early implementers to work out the bugs.
I made it to 3:30 mins and I was done. Waaaaay too much work to figure out how to make the car go, and then, waaaay too much work to, well, make the car go. I'll admit that I'm technology resistant (don't even have a smart phone), but that dashboard is ridiculous.
I rented a polestar 2 from hertz here in Minnesota last Thursday and Friday, it went well except I knew nothing about electric cars, much charger anxiety, the first day I was ready to bring it back but the 2nd day was getting the hang of it more and more, the biggest help were other users at the charging stations, they were incredibly willing to help if you asked them, I would rent one again, I have a video on my you tube
I'd never consider renting an electric car, too many things to learn while navigating a city you may not know, the added stress while on holiday is not something I would want. Bad Idea.
That's correct. Every car brand has a different charging procedure and you always end up googling for solutions or calling support. On top of that and this is common to all modern cars, they moved a lot of basic fuctionalities to the central infotainement screen and each brand sets it according to their taste. Now you need to spend some time before leaving the rental parking to figure out how to put on fog lights and setting the A/C. I remember once it suddenly started to heavily rain and I could not find the menu where to increase the wipers speed.
My vehicle gets 40 mpg.. So, I would need 6 gallons of gasoline to get the same range. The 6 gallons would cost about $21, which is actually less than what you paid. If you value your time, you wasted about an hour more than what refueling with 6 gallons would take and it cost more money. So, please tell me what the advantage of using an electric powered car is ? All I see are disadvantages. THE ENTIRE EXPERIENCE IS NOT READY FOR PRIME TIME .. PERIOD
It gives stupid people a warm fuzzy feeling . Because that car probably will never be driven enough to justify the pollution caused to make it above what your car caused .
The EV fan boys claim the cost works out that driving the EV per mile is far less expensive that an ICE car. But, these number sure don't show that. But, the 45 minute charge time is the deal breaker for a car that I might be traveling long distance in. I can pump 20+ gallons, have a restroom break, buy some snacks, and be back on the highway in less than 20 minutes.
@@shermandaniel8285 LOL brainwashed to believe in pointless agenda nonsense. You just ignore the hard facts that Level 2 Charging is roughly 20c per kwh Half the price of this Level 3 DC Fast Charger. Thus almost 1/2 the price of Fuel. Vast majority of charging sessions is done on Level 2 AC not Level 3 DC.
45 min? - luxury! - In the winter, that's 2+ hours to warm up the battery and the range drops to 75 miles at motorway speeds with the heating on. The Tesla superchargers are also nearly double the price per mile vs diesel, in the UK anyway and the newer models with LFP batteries are even worse when it comes to temperature sensitivity and charge speeds.
I’ve rented a Tesla Model Y from Hertz and my experience was so much better than yours. Using the Tesla Superchargers was easy and they ALWAYS worked the first time. All charges go to the credit card Hertz has on file (since renters don’t have access to Tesla app). When I made my reservation Hertz emailed me a few links to quick videos they made on how to unlock and lock the doors, how to start the car, and how to recharge it, I found those helpful. But I also did a ton of research on my own about ALL the features the Tesla offered. I was glad I did as whoever had it before me had turned off most of the electric car features to make it feel more like a gas engine car…which was not what I wanted. Like you, I was confused about what level of charge I needed to return the vehicle, since hertz doesn’t make that clear….but they DO have rules about it. I never did get a satisfactory answer from Hertz so I just made sure it was close to 80%.
@@eleventy-seven Look at the EV sales stats for the first half of 2023. The number of new Tesla Model Y vehicles purchased during that period dwarf the number that Volvo and other have sold. And Tesla has presumably been building out their charging network for some time now to handle the grow of their own cars, which far exceed that of other brands. Even with the huge increase of Tesla Model 3 and Model Y cars this year, I've yet have to to wait in line on the occasions I need to charge on a road trip. That all said, mostly I charge my Tesla at home.
@@eleventy-seven But Tesla is currently working on expanding their network to accommodate everyone. In another video they said their location is currently expanding from about 10 stations to 20 with further plans to add an additional 50 Tesla charging stations. And more and more locations will be added as well. Honestly, electric charging may be very good for the convenience store market! I never go in to the store when filling my ICE car. But went into everyone and made a purchase when waiting for my electric vehicle to charge.
@@eleventy-seven Tesla is rapidly building a lot more super charger. Plus, most other charging station companies have said they will start adding the “Tesla” plug to their stations too.
I rented a Tesla Model 3 through Hertz under Uber Electric Car Rental program. The quoted price was 300$ a week and when I returned the car I was charged 450$ a week plus recharge fee of 35$ even though the car was at 40% charge when I picked it up and I returned it at 60%. I was also charged a cleaning fee even though the car was filthy when I picked it up and ran it through the car wash+vacuum before dropping it off. Hertz Electric car rental plus Electrify America chargers is only for those who want to be duped and incredibly frustrated.
Thank you for a different angle on the EV experience. It was more about Hertz and public charging and related struggles, but very helpful perspectives. The bit on first time essential taps on screen was what I appreciated about the Polestar 2 itself.
I think a better title would have been "Hertz doesn't know how to rent EVs, and EA isn't a solid charging network"....because it sounds like you liked the car. But the title more or less implies there was a problem with the car.
By sheer luck we rented a Polestar 2 in San Diego for spring break. I had a total blast driving during the week. Found a high speed charger at a park and ride about 5 min from our rental and charged two nights for about an hour total for around $50. It was an excellent experience and the first time I'd ever driven or had any experience with an EV.
Surprised it wasn’t. Polestar doesn’t enjoy a good reputation for being reliable. Will you explain to me why this push to electric vehicles when places like California can barely keep up with demand now? And no, you can’t just add more transformers. Not when the lines are close to melting.
I rented a Polestar from Hertz recently and my experience was different from yours. I was informed to return the car at the same level it was charged at by the attendant(same thing they do with gas cars). I will say my name was not on the board either but they did quickly tell me which spot the car was in. I had a great time and may consider buying one. I guess everyone's experience differs.
Most EV users are commuters and charge at home. Cross country or rental EV driving is probably not the intended end-user. Our family got the Volvo XC-90 plug-in hybrid because we need short commutes but international driving to see fam in summer. Our mileage is 36mpg which is pretty darned good for a full size SUV.
So if you have no infrastructure over there and you don’t have enough generating power to do much more than keep up with current demand and the batteries are coming from China why are they Hell bent on making you people drive electric cars? They’re getting paid! The WEF and other elites want you driving that crap 💩 because you are easily manipulated. Considering the situation that Europe is in, it makes no sense
So you paid $21 for 56% of charge, which would be about 100 miles. That's not a deal, at all. 100 miles is 2.5 gallons of gas in my car, which would cost around $9. Plus you have to wait 45 minutes at the charging station, vs. 3 or 4 minutes to put a couple of gallons of gas in. What happened to all the hype about electric cars being so much cheaper to run?!? No thanks!
Fast charging really should only be used on long trips, ideally. Cars sit around doing nothing parked for the majority of the time. The trick is to fuel them up at those times on slower chargers. It's much cheaper and when the car is sitting parked anyway the user waiting time is zero--better than gasoline fillups. Can be difficult with rentals especially. Best case is maybe hotel has a charger for overnight use. Public charging infrastructure still has a ways to go. Imagine never charging your phone overnight or at work and you always had to find some plug out and about--yeah that's what you do when you spend a day traveling at airports and such, but the phone ownership experience is so much better when you can charge it overnight and at work.
Yes, it's insane, everyone keeps reporting how much cheaper EVs are to run, but let's look at the real costs: batteries on average fail around 150k mile mark and cost $20k to replace, that's $0.13 per mile in battery cost alone! - add to that the $0.21 per mile to charge publicly and that's 3x+ the price of running a diesel car easily... Even if you have a solar installation at home, how much do those cost for the 20-25 year lifespan? - it takes 15+ years to breakeven in many parts of the world, just around the time when failures start to happen and the installation company is long gone to honour any warranty claims...
@@Pyedr I would LOVE to have a phone I can charge once a month with a 5 minute stop on the way somewhere and not worry about putting it in battery saver more or turn the screen off, like I do with my diesel vehicle. But at least with a phone, you generally have a 1.5-2 day battery life now, when this was under a day, it was painful. With an EV your battery life is about 1.5 hours in the winter at motorway speeds, it's just not usable for most people, most of the time. And it's also only getting worse with the new LFP batteries they now use to avoid the reliance on cobalt. They have less energy density/capacity, more sensitive to temperature changes and have slower charging.
You baited this Title to Mean you Had Problems with Polestar 2 which you didn't. Change your title because I watched this for NOTHING and sped through your banter to find you had gripes with HERTZ and not Polestar! I don't usually watch older people do reviews and THIS IS WHY. PROVED MY POINT!
I planned an EV rental from Hertz thinking it'd probably a Tesla Model 3 RWD. Today, I received an email from Hertz indicating that it's likely to be a polestar and my immediate concern is about charging on the road. Googlefu bring me to this video and doesn't disappoint me. This is the title I see "I rented a 2023 Polestar 2 from Hertz...It did not go well. 😡"
Other than the dig at older people, this is a fair point. The reviewer had issues with Hertz that might have happened with an ICE car. Polestar did nothing wrong other than normal EV learning curve stuff.
Fully agree. Only renting EVs with Hertz and loving it. You need to prepare and know where lvl3 charging stations are and if I look at the end of the video looks like he is charging at a lvl1 station while there are two free lvl2 or lvl3…(judging from the size of the transformers)…you kinda have to know what you are doing and you’ll be happy.
Every time I watch a video of someone trying to charge a non-Tesla eV, it makes me glad we own Tesla's. Tesla makes eV ownership convenient and easy, the rest do not.
Really? A piece of shit car with crap quality, and can't be fixed by anyone except Tesla----wait until it's 10 years old and you have a $4,000 repair on a $3,000 car, that can't even be sold for parts. Not a car, just a toy
@@chadhaire1711 Are you an engineer with expertise in the field? I suspect that you are not. eV batteries should be good for about 1,000,000 miles- not many ICE vehicles will get anywhere near that kind of longevity.. eVs generally aren't "sold for parts" because they have very few parts-the drivetrain in an ICE vehicle contains 2,000+ moving parts typically, whereas the drivetrain in an EV contains around 20. Simpler, more reliable, and no need to carry thousands of "parts" that can break down.
@@chadhaire1711I’ve owned three. You haven’t a clue what you’re talking about. No maintenance other than tyres and maybe brakes at 200k miles. That’s it.
@@libertarian4323 This from a guy with such a sad life he has to subscribe to 214 you tube channels---LOL--have a lot of time on your hands do you? I am not an engineer, I do test factory cars for a living...been doing it for over three decades...know a bit more about the subject than you. EV cars have only one advantage--cheap power. $90K for a Dodge Hellcat to go 0-60 in 3.6 seconds or $60K for a KIA GT to go 0-60 in 3.2 seconds. Other than that there are ZERO advantages to an EV. EV batteries are good for about 100,000-150,000 miles at which they have lost 30% of charge capacity...so your Ford electric truck rated at 210 miles, and drops to 95 miles when towing or in cold weather will has dropped to 60 miles at 100K miles. Your "million mile" battery is bullshit. Oh yes and catching on fire--Ford dealers no longer have their EV's in the showroom--they dont want the building burning down...one F150 EV burned an entire row of trucks on the lot---many tow companies are refusing to tow an EV. Good for the environment? What a crock...it take tons of earth just to make on battery....the environmentalists have already shut down mining all over the globe.....to put 300 million electric cars on the road would require more earth destruction in one year than all the years before...yet the fools want electric cars at the same time. Keep watching your you tube channels--CNBC has more propaganda for you.
@@alexnutcasio936 At 100K miles EV batteries have lost up to 30% of charge ability Goober and dont let that Tesla Toy get in an accident-----fender bender for $20K.....LOL....and be sure to take a long trip coast to coast...and stop every 250 miles for a 20 minute charge instead of a gas car stopping every 400 miles for a 5 minute fill up----and if the gas car gets more than 21 mpg, its CHEAPER to fill than charging an EV. at a public station.......bet you are one of those who wore his Covid mask while driving in your car--by yourself.....LOL....
I rented a Mod 3 LR for a month from Hertz. It was a great experience. I am a gold card member too. but the staff gave me a 1 minute instruction, they showed me where to fill it up with gas... 🤣🤣🤣😅
I rented from Enterprise for 2.5 weeks while my ICE car was in the shop. They did explain how to use it and also explained the expectations so far as charge level upon return. I was at home (not on vacation, and just plugged it into 110v every night - I never once used a charge station.) The experience confirmed that as a daily driver for my job the range and 110v charging would be just fine. Regarding likes and dislikes of the car: I loved the front display behind the steering wheel - the 3D map view just makes perfect sense in that configuration. Driving position was very comfortable, and it was a blast to drive. I didn't care for the sunroof, as it was a black interior and doesn't have a way to filter the sun beyond the tinting. My BIGGEST dislike is one I've not heard anyone mention that drove me nuts, which is the key fob. The buttons are black (same as the body of the fob), tiny, and on the sides of the device. You have to look at it to know what you are about to press, which my 50+ year old eyes had a tough time with, especially at night. But overall I really liked the vehicle. When it is time to retire my current car, Polestar will be tops on my list to investigate further.
Given my experience as a both a Hertz Gold President's Circle member and daily driver of an EV with CCS since 2014, I can't say I'm surprised. Even with my preferred status (thanks to a credit card not frequency), I've had issues on about 1 in 3 Hertz rentals. No doubt their EV fleet was pushed down from corporate primarily for PR purposes. They clearly didn't build a proper infrastructure and training for the locations/franchisees. Also your EA experience mirrors mine. Out of three attempts at their stations, I've had one success. And that was with a membership setup in advance. Luckily I'm in California so I have multiple options to avoid them. One thing I have learned through experience is that regardless of network when the EVSE failed to connect after two attempts, call customer service. They sometimes can force a connection remotely. At the very least it notifies them maintenance is required.
You would be happy with an EV if you can charge at home. If you're on a trip, staying at a hotel, it might prove to be a hassle to have to rely on public charging networks. Even if it was as easy and straight forward as "pay at the pump", you're still looking at 15-30 minutes at a charge station, rather than 5 minutes at a gas pump. If you have available "destination charging", you're going to like EV a lot more. Just plug in overnight, and it's ready in the morning, without having to go anywhere for a charge. If you intend to rent an EV, make sure to book a hotel, with that available level 2 charging. The charge interface cable will come with the rental.
It basically took him an hr. to get a59% charge (31% to 90%). There was only one car at the other pumps. What if the other pumps were all busy? Then he has to wait for one of them to finish before he gets to spend an hour at the pump. No thanks. I will stick to gas. Hybrid is the only option that makes sense.
Teslas are WAY easier and faster to charge at superchargers. I have never felt inconvenienced or delayed on trips, and it is half the price of fossil fuel per mile driven. Of course the great majority of charging is done at home during the night, and you can wake up with a full tank of electrons without driving to a gas station.
You need to make clearer that the "it did not go well" was about 99.9% Hertz and about 0.1% Polestar. Misleading.
I would add 70% hertz, 30% us loading infrastructure ;)
Another Polestar hater ..
I would go as far as saying 100% Hertz and 0% Polestar.
I have recently rented a polestar in the exact same location.
My issue was that we were given zero info on how or where to charge. This was especially difficult as coming from the UK I could not download any of the charge point apps, when I could I was unable to use a British bank card, add to the fact that the car did not come with a home charger I spent the entire trip panicking about where to top up. I contacted hertz and all they did to support was give me locations of charge points I could not use or were broken.
The car itself was perfect!
@@darylliney70 agreed - All very fair points, and further highlight how purposely misleading this video's title is!
Misleading? Is this your first youtube video ever?
I had a “normal” car reserved at Hertz for a recent week long business trip. My flight was a bit delayed so I arrived at the Providence (RI) airport later than planned and the only car Hertz had left was a Model 3. It only had about 35% of a charge and the location I was visiting had ZERO level 2 chargers, much less any fast chargers. It was late and I wanted to get to my room, so I took the car.
Fortunately, the hotel where I was staying had a 120V outlet close enough to the parking lot so that I could use the Level 1 charger that was (thankfully) still in the trunk. I wasn’t driving pre than about 10-12 miles per day when there, so the slow charge was adequate, but it did cause me some extra stress on the trip.
I enjoyed driving the electric car, but would have enjoyed it more under different circumstances.
Sending a customer out with a low charge to begin with was a bum move, too.
I handle charging for Hertz at PHX, and it's disturbing how many Teslas get rented out without the charging kit and/or the Tesla charging adapter. The customers don't know to make sure they have it before they leave, and most employees either don't know it's supposed to be there or care enough to check.
Just rented and drove my first EV ever and it’s a Polestar 2 from Hertz. When I was checking out the woman mentioned something about gas, I said, “this is an EV”, she was like, “oh”. Needless to say there was zero help about anything, I pretty much had to figure everything out on the fly. Thankfully, UA-cam videos like yours have been very helpful!
The charge time alone is a deal breaker for me. That’s insane.
agreed! imagine having to wait 45 minutes to get 3/4 of a tank of gas!!!
At least you didn't get put in jail on a false auto theft report. That's a win any time you rent from Hertz. 🙄
Sounds like someone held onto the car longer than the drop off period and ignroed the calls.
No, it really sounds like HERTZ did put people in jail by reporting the cars stolen when the were legitimate rental’s within the rental periods, they messed up ( Hertz ) and those people didn’t deserve to be treated as criminals.
@@supersai4198 Sounds like someone has been living under a rock. A huge rock!!
@@supersai4198 It sounds like you’re not familiar with what everyone is talking about. Do some research. Hertz is known to rent cars to people, then arrest them after, saying they stole the car. The cases become nightmares. In one, they threw a man in jail for six full months! He lost his job and his house. In one case, the person never even rented a car from Hertz. I’d rather Uber than rent a car from Hertz.
Hertz has been sued for the false arrest of their customers due to problematic paperwork issues. It sounds like what you described as your pickup experience is exactly why I don't rent from Hertz. You would think since all the National attention that story got they would have jumped on making corrections but it doesn't appear that way.
Considering how often Hertz has legitimate renters arrested and jailed for stealing cars which they have already paid for and turned back in to Hertz, I think it went pretty well for you.
I just love sitting in the Florida heat waiting for my battery to charge!
We had a similar story and it is a long one. My wife had an urgent trip to Harrisburg, PA in early 2023, she booked a car using one of those discounted websites and got a confirmation from Hertz. Once landed she headed to the car renting counter and after a long wait she received the last car on the lot, and it was a Polestar. Being know nothing about electric cars she called me for help because Hertz's agent did not show her how to operate the car. After a quick Google search, I was able to instruct her to start the car, and she was on her way to her destination 60 miles ago away from the nearest city.
After reaching her destination, the car showed that it now had about 90 miles of range left. I urged her to go find a charge station the next day. This is where the fun started, she stayed at a small suburb when the nearest Chargepoint is about 40 miles away, and since she had used up some of the ranges through the day she only had about 20 miles left according to the car. She found a Shell station that has its own charger, after fumbling with the app she had to put in $20 for the initial opening, and after a long phone call with me, she was able to make the car charge. She then waited and waited for over 2 hours then called me again saying there was only 10% up so far. I then told her to wait so it has enough charge to get to the hotel and the trip back to the airport, which took her another 2 hours to the wee hours of the night in a strange town (good thing it was at Shell station which she was able to wait inside). For the rest of the trip, she called Uber. The good thing was she only spent $2 on an electric charge for almost 200 miles of use, the bad thing was the remaining $18 is of no use nor refunded. Oh, she did not know how to operate all the other functions of the car so she left them in whatever it was set at.
The morals of the story are, one, do not rent an electric car if you are not familiar with it; two, do not fall for cheap rental advertisements on the web. Third, do not buy an electric car until there is infrastructure in place everywhere and the charging is as closely fast as filling up a gas tank.
Terrible story. Your wife is lucky she made it.
I rented Polestar 2 from Hertz at Eindhoven airport and everything went as smooth as possible. I received the car with 94% battery and returned it with about 50%. I asked about charge level on return and they said that I don't have to worry about that and there is no fee for charge level difference. Hertz staff gave me hertz tag which I used to pay for charging at any charging station anywhere in Netherlands. No credit card needed what so ever. After returning the car they charged me about 23 euro for 500km traveled with Polestar 2.
hahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
So as we now know - Hertz clerks manning the front desk HAVE NO CLUE how to either operate the electric TOY car or what to charge for battery status when the TOY is returned!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
No doubt some senior mechanic will add a re-charge fee to your revised credit card bill at a later date!!!!!!
@@abellseaman4114 You are so wrong my friend you can't imagine how much. She was very well informed about specifications of Polestar 2 and we had one very nice and profound conversation about the difference between Polestar and Kia e-Niro, which was my initial rental vehicle. We even touch Tesla Model 3 talking about the differences. I've never met any woman that well informed about cars in general. Hertz returned me deposit on my credit card so after a couple of months from visiting Netherlands i consider everything done. Maybe, just maybe a speeding ticket or two if any camera recorded me.
@@mitrovskiigi So, Hertz in the Netherlands as their act together while Hertz in the USA hasn't figured it out. That Hertz gave you a card to use for charging and handled the billing seems wonderful and apparently didn't gouge you for the service.
Thank you for wasting our time by offering that LIE-beral electric TOY car nonsense propaganda!!!!!!!
The reported experiences of multiple electric TOY car users make your comments ABSURD!!!!!!!!!!!
Sounds like the gripe is more with the Hertz location and the charging network than Hertz in general or with the car. I rented a Tesla Model 3 in London and again in the US. Positive experience both times. The first time in London, they took 15 minutes to go over driving an EV in general and the specifics of the Model 3. Both times, they carefully explained the charge level to return it at and the $35 option. Charging at a Tesla fast charger was brain dead easy. Pull up, plug it in, charge, and leave. No app, no hassle.
If you are in a shithole like London you have bigger problems than what car you are driving.
I rented a Tesla from Hertz a couple of months ago from the Orlando airport. Prior to making the reservation I called Hertz to ask what the charge return level policy was (70%) because, like you, I couldn’t find it on the website. I initially thought of renting the Polestar as I had never been in one before, but found there were no compatible chargers in the area I would be staying. There was however a Tesla charging station less than 2 miles away, charged there twice and at another station with no issues. Charging fees will get added to your final rental costs, no need to mess around with credit cards, apps or accounts. I didn’t get any instructions on how to use the Tesla from Hertz but I had driven them a few times before so no problem. Was disappointed I had no way of connecting with the Tesla app. Otherwise no problems, pleasure to drive, and I would do it again.
EVs only make sense as a commuter car and when you can charge at home with low cost electricity. My electric rate is only 10.5c/kwh delivered so it costs about 1/3 of what gas costs. Sadly, this is not the case for most locations in the US.
Zelbug - The manufactures of EV cars direct their focus on exactly drivers like you, not the rental car market. I imagine you rarely if ever use a commercial charging station. That is exactly the goal.
So have to buy two cars instead of one ? No thanks .
My problem with the electric car market .... my story :
I work at a large power plant - one of the biggest in the USA. I noticed a few guys had bought electric cars. I tried a couple of them out and determined I want one. Here was the best part - we have chargers here at work where workers can charge up - FOR FREE. This sealed the deal for me (go ahead and jerk around the price of gasoline , i won't have to care !).
So i start my search for an decent AFFORDABLE electric car. GOOD LUCK WITH THAT.
the very week I began my search , GM announces they are discontinuing production of the Bolt. Then they announce they are putting their efforts into electric trucks , SUVs and Cadillacs. meaning - WE DON'T WANT YOU BUYING A ELECTRIC FOR 30,000 dollars - WE WANT TO SELL YOU ONE FOR 70,000 AND UP... ! -- DEAL KILLER FOR ME.
In short , they don't want the average person in these products,only the ones willing to mortgage their home to buy one....... just another toy for the affluent.
Buy a used Tesla. Their resale values are very low, even for just a couple of years old and very low miles.
Buy a used Tesla like the guy below suggests! Of course they want to sell you cars......Elon definitely wants to sell you an electric car...go for it!
Cheaper to buy a Tesla Model 3 than a Camry and to own than a Corolla within 5 years 60k miles in many states.
The standard Model 3 is listed on the Tesla website as having a manufacturer's suggested retail price of $32,740 after the EV tax credit is applied. With the added state rebate, the list price drops down to $25,240 in California!
For now, but not forever. Give it a few years
I got a new EV for 12k€ (after subsidies)
I dont think I could buy any combustion car for this money
....and then it spontaneously caught fire. That was Saturday. Still burning.
Stop with the absurd nonsense. The probability of fire is multiple times lower than an ICE car.
@@Neojhun BS. You know that is not true. A gas tank will not ignite, batteries can and so. Problem is water will not put the batter fire out. It's a whole different kind of fire.
@@Neojhun Read on - Data obtained through a Freedom of Information (FOI) request revealed that in 2019 the London Fire Brigade dealt with 54 electric vehicle fires compared with 1,898 petrol and diesel fires.
Vehicle registration numbers from the Department for Transport (DfT) show there are 50,000-plus plug-in cars licensed in the capital out of a total 4.63 million licensed cars.
Looking at the London Fire Brigade data, that would suggest an incident rate of 0.04% for petrol and diesel car fires, while the rate for plug-in vehicle is more than double at 0.1%. So far this year, there have been 1,021 petrol and diesel fires and 27 EV fires in the capital.
@@bondgabebond4907 "A gas tank will not ignite" is blatantly false, sure it does not start there but it can leak and be ignited by external source.
Gas / Petrol can have a concussive fireball effect that expands at blistering speed no human can outrun. Meanwhile Battery fires just Flame slowly giving time for the occupants to crawl away.
@@andyduhamel1925 FYI that "50,000" includes a large proportion of PHEV with Petrol Engines and Fuel Tanks. 69,172 is the total number of Plug In vehicles in 2021. Most likely 50K was around year 2020 where Pure Electric BEVs were not the majority of Plug In vehicles. But lets ignore the fact some of those may also have petrol onboard to push a false agenda.
I was talking to a Guy in Windermere in the Lakes UK , he was having a problem trying to charge his Polstar ev , he had rented it from Hertz after arriving from the US , he was given no instructions and he had never driven an ev before , this car had ruined his and his family’s holiday , the cost of charging a car in the UK is very expensive and problematic, and you would be lucky getting these charges to work , he said the only good thing that came out of this is that he would never buy an ev car .
Very informative.... and the issue is not with the car but with the rental company and the charging station.
When I started renting vehicles back in the 90’s I did my due diligence and researched all the mainstream companies and Hertz was immediately a no-go….higher rates and caps on mileage, and even though they had better choices, still wasn’t worth it. After watching this, apparently they still aren’t! Wasn’t it also Hertz that was having customers mistakingly arrested over glitches, etc. in their system awhile back?
You should change the title of this video to "Hertz and Electrify America are bad. Polestar 2 is good"
Polestar is crap car, for real.
@@bluechex7881.... how do you know this? Do you own one? Have you spent any time driving one?
I wanted to try out an EV, so I rented a Nissan Leaf on Turo. I needed to download multiple apps, constantly searching for an available charger (range anxiety), wasting time using slow, expensive chargers. And both hills and a/c significantly cut range in this car. No thanks. Keep your hassle.
You rented what has to be the most rubbish of rubbish EVs. Similarly, I could rent some shonky low rent cheap as chips Skoda and pronounce all Petrol and diesel cars are therefore rubbish as well. Ironically, I went to an ASDA supermarket here in the UK and was presented with a pump that only accepted credit cards. No attendant and for some reason at 11pm, none of the bloody things worked. All the pumps were not accepting cards.
Trying to use an electric car without having a charger at your home is pointless. Who has 45 minutes to sit at a gas station? That’s the issue with electrics, they are only really viable for homeowners in single family houses.
Various other communities outside of single family homes are setting up chargers for their residents. EV's are the future but if you are considering buying one take the time to read up on it. It's a little bit of a change in lifestyle so it's best to understand it before buying.
@@sailorx72 Nope. EV will never be a main stream cars. Try to convince most Americans to switch to EV. Let's talk in 20 years. In short, not going to happen. 10-20% max of market will be EV in USA.
@@sunshadow9704 American will go with what's cheap, and in the case of EVs also better. Evs are much simpler than ICE.
@@MichaelBushey wrong. Americans will go with what is more convenient. Until such time when charging stations will be available at every corner and charging time is comparable with current time to fill the tang of gas, EV will be exotic vehicles 🚗. Sure, some areas will reach perhaps 10%. But rural USA, nope.
@@sunshadow9704 every corner is way too far away. I charge in my garage, and it takes a few seconds to plug in and unplug. Gas stations are a huge time suck.
At least Hertz didn't report your Polestar stolen while you were renting it! (See several Steve Lehto videos regarding Hertz's screwups).
it ain't over yet ... Hertz may STILL pull their idiotic stunt ...
Had one in Italy for 34 days.....was same price as a Mini so opted for the Polestar luxury...watched video before i left on how to use the controls and planned my trip re chargers....many free ones in Italy....had a blast with it
I booked a tesla model 3 from the Hertz app. The morning of the rental they called to tell me they don't have any at that location, and never do.
You really should change the headline of this video. It really deals more with the poor service from Hertz than anything else.
It's less complicated and quicker for me to fly my Cessna than deal with all these headaches.
lol, you fly your cessna from your house to the grocery store? It's not less complicated than driving an EV, you are just used to it. It might be less compliicated that dealing with Hertz, though.
$22.75 + 1.25 hours of your life vs 5 minutes to gas up.🤦♂️
Yep, thus administration sucks!
Time is money except charging an EV then it don’t count
This is exactly why so many people won’t try an EV. At the pump for over an hour? I’ll keep pumping gas😂
Not for everyone I might agree, but only necessary if you cannot charge at home. In fact having to drive to a gas station and wait in line now seems archaic to me. On longer trips we top the car up for 20 minutes every couple of hours, whilst having a burger or coffee. The only issue is the availability of chargers, a combination of roadside charging and destination chargers makes it pretty effortless, but if there is no destination charger then it can be a pain. Hotel owners take note!
never heard of Tesla and their superchargers ?
1 hour? - luxury! - In the winter, that's 2+ hours to warm up the battery and the range drops to 75 miles at motorway speeds with the heating on. The Tesla superchargers are also nearly double the price per mile vs diesel, in the UK anyway.
Can we all agree that the push for chargers to not have a card reader on them but instead apps are the worst thing ever? Like seriously, imagine if I needed an app to use a vending machine, I'd never use it. And hey, many gas stations have app support, you ever seen anyone use them?
That's their plan. When shit hits the fan they can just switch off peoples' ability to re-fuel their cars. We saw glimmers of it with the Covid shutdowns. A good way to keep people trapped in their own home or in their own local community is to disable their ability to purchase fuel. That's why they hate people buying gas with cash.
@@casmatoriif they wanted to do that, they don't need an app. They could simply disable the chargers...
But everything has to be a conspiracy, doesn't it?
This past October, I rented an EV from Hertz on my Boston trip. I initially reserved a Tesla Model 3 but was given a Polestar 2 instead. The Hertz rep told me as long as it was over 20%, I didn't bring the car trashed or a total wreck, I wasn't going to be charged any penalties. I returned the car back at 64% clean, and in one piece. The Hertz rep kept to his word and I was not charged any penalties.
I did not mind at all because Polestar gave me the feel of a regular car and not the extra bells and whistles a Tesla offers. It was only for 24 hours but I completely fell in love with Polestar. So much when I came back home, I purchased one. It was my first experience with an EV and I found it to be very intuitive. I don't have a charger installed and I really don't mind going to a charging station because there is one behind my corner grocery store and I plan my charging on the days I have to do my shopping. Yes, I'm fully aware not everyone has this convenience. And, like any other car, you got to sit with the manual and learn everything about it.
Reading some of the comments of folks here; I'm sorry but EV's are going to be the future whether we like it or not. Not to sound all snarky but imagine the horse and carriage folks saying "America is not ready for the auto-mobile" or "I'll just stick to my ol trusty carriage" ; and I'm sure there were people who said something similar because they were against cars. The point I'm trying to get with this is, you can't stop progress. Yes, EV industry has still a lot to improve, the same way cars in it's infancy had their issues to face. But the work has to be a collaborative effort between the needs of the business and of the consumers. Oil industry is not very sustainable so we need to find alternatives.
How much is it to charge at your grocery store?
Well said!
After all the news stories of Hertz having people arrested, why is anyone still renting from them? I'm a former Gold member as well. Will never rent from them again.
How wonderful this adventure would be at night and criminals circling for the kill or whatever fun they might be planning!
I was expecting him to get arrested because Hertz reported the car stolen.
So the issue is with Hertz and not the car. Got it. Misleading but hey, get your clicks man.
One good thing is that Hertz didn't accuse you of stealing the car. One bullet dodged. That's a win in my book!
An inditement of Electrify America, the most confusing, inconsistent, and frustrating charging network in the country.
I rented a Model 3 from Hertz RSW in Fort Myers FL and it was Nothing but positive. Great range, clean car and easy to charge. They gave it to me at 85% SOC which was more than enough to get to my destination. Mine went well. Should’ve gotten a Tesla. My average range was 4.2 miles per KWH with AC on. Very impressive.
Hey kids guess what? Before we get to Disney World we have to stop for 25 minutes to charge the car.
Typical troll maybe they have to stop and go to bathroom that apply to 25 minutes anyway doofus
This is the first video of any electic vehicle being charged and the process and problems that comes with doing so . Thank you ! Adding this info to my knowledge of possibly getting an EV .
I was in Denmark last week and rented a Polestar 2 from Avis. It went well and I only charged at Tesla Superchargers as I already have the app and know the stations. Had no problems what so ever with the car or the rental agency. I liked the car, but I felt it was a bit cramped, and I agree with you about the poor visibility, also from the side windows. I like my Tesla Model Y better. 😊
You must work for Tesla.
@@tms372 "rented a Polestar 2 from Avis, It went well" You just ignored the comment.
Have this car for almost a month now, and I'm fking in love with it!
So you can get a hefty fine for using your mobile device while driving , but it seems ok to use the device built into the vehicle while driving. Isn't that just as dangerous?.
Oh boy. Who would want this painful charging experience? And waiting an hour???? Instead of filling up in 2 minutes? Never ever ever ever. That said, I googled the info about returning hertz electric car, took me one second to find the answer that took this guy hours to find out. Maybe didn't use google?
Rented the same car from Hertz : rented with 200 miles of range - returned at 140 miles of range remaining, I told the guy when I returned it that I didn't have a chance to recharge : he said have a nice day.
I rented the dual motor version of the same car and had a terrific experience. The Courtyard I stayed at offered free charging, but National didn't even require that I bring it back charged. The tremendous torque of the motors was addictive. The car's style and driving experience were fantastic.
23 bucks for 50 miles????????????????
This is why I bought a Tesla. The charging network sold me as it made the car very practical for travel.
Totally different experience with the same vehicle from Hertz UK.
Rentals are reasonably priced, everything explained about the Polestar2 before departure and advice to bring back the car 75% charged, it is a beautiful car that is quite economical.
hertz is trash anymore you should now be gratefull ifyou didnt get arrested for stealing it
44 min charge = too long. Until I can fully charge in less then 10 min and a range of at least 600 miles no electric car for me...
Great Car had one for a few hours to do what I wanted did a mixture of city, motorways and backroads and it’s impressive how well it hides its weight. Leaving Cars behind certainly didn’t get old. Screen Nav and auto pilot system worked well.
What Hertz should do is make a deal with charging providers so that you only have to plug the car in to the charger. The charger would then detect that this is a rental car and contact Hertz for a payment contract for this car. Hertz knows who rented the car so they can put the charging cost on the bill of the rental car to be paid when you return the car. From the end user's perspective, all you'd need to do is plug it in and then everything is automatic.
edit: although having watched the whole video it looks like Hertz is a terrible company to deal and are clearly not interested in maintaining a good relationship with their customers so they are not going to do anything to make it easier.
Plus, imagine going through all that when it's -25 degrees and snowing
and you'll be doing it more often.
Or 115 plus if you're in the South West.
@@petercollingwood522 Don't be silly. It was only 114 today. ;-) Wait till summer really hits.
@@Rocketsong Perfectly fine in AUS on 110c days. Then again we do not have Electrify America borked chargers here. Winter sucks though I just hate the cold, the chargers work fine as long you've been driving the car and it's already at temp.
$25 gets me 240 mile range in my kia soul, and takes me 30 seconds to get there.
Now thats a fast KIA. Heck it takes me a good five minutes to put 15 gallons of gas in my tank if I am paying at the pump. Closer to fifteen if I go in, grab a drink and wait in line to pay for drinks/snacks and pre pay for the gas.
@@joshuabraman4709 touchless pay at the pump. In and out. No waiting around at some sketchy parking lot.
This video was really about Hertz and not the Polestar. I am sure you could have rented another EV and the title would still be ..It did not go well.
Next time rent a Tesla. No hassle charging. Works every time. It's why Ford, GM, Rivian, and Lucid, with Hyundai soon to follow, are changing over to Tesla's NACS and getting access to the Supercharger network.
Just wanted to say thank you for reinforcing all of the things that I know I don’t like about the electric car delusion. If you have nowhere to go, and by no particular time, you could probably put up with spending 45 minutes and multiple attempts just to try to get your car charged up…whereas I can go to my Wawa, put in 12 gallons of regular gasoline in under three minutes, and be on my way. I have no idea what a polestar is, but I have a feeling that I know where our government wants to put that pole.
40 minutes waiting for recharge 34 to 90% that's about half tank on regular car 22 bucks ??
I fill up my car half tank in less than2 minutes for 17 dollars more and saved 38 minutes!!!!!!!
Would have been half that time if he charged to 80%. All EVs fast charge to 80%, then slow right down for the remaining 20% due safety reasons and protecting the battery.
@@pokeman7431 Still much longer than gasoline with much less energy put in....
"Pole Star" had a different meaning, not that long ago....
I rented a P2 twice in Fort Myers. Didn't have any problems like yours...
It was a blast to drive... Faster than my mustang rentals including the GTH.
And in the middle of FL, it was only .135¢ /kWh. So 65 minutes from 28% on the highspeed charger cost about $7.50
Those east coast prices are just like NY/NJ!
Crazy.
The best is, charging at home.
Side note; just call the 800 number on the charger and you can get charging that way, no need for the app.
Twiddle my thumbs for 45min. Yer dreamin.
Don’t forget the $75K plus entry fee for your inconvenience.
@@markvincent5992 Don't buy a Ford or GM. Tesla's are blowing away legacy auto because they're much cheaper and better. $75K will get you a pair of Model 3s
People who still believe that EVs are the solution to anything really are insane.
I feel like your only real problem was the pickup process from Hertz. The charging snafu was Electrify America's fault (well-known--that's why everyone is going with Tesla), and the amount of charge you need on return should be obvious: the same as you left with.
Sitting around for 45 minutes to charge the batteries? I'll stick to gasoline.
plus the time it took him to get a good charging station with a good credit card reading machine.
The one nice thing about charging, even if it takes a while, is that plenty of shopping centers, malls, office buildings, restaurants, grocery stores, etc. have cheap/free charging. So, people can charge while doing something else.
200 miles in 15 min toilet break with a Tesla!
@@estegueydijo.... I'd be yanking whatever hairs I have left on my head off. Total waste of time.
@@waynerussell6401 that's at least conceivable. Still sucks big time however compared to a 5 minute fillip of gasoline.
46 minutes to charge and not even fully, would be a deal breaker for me.
Yep Polestar 2 was not designed ground up for high performance Level 3 DC Fast charging. Many other BEVs are much better, 30 Minutes for a 10 to 85% charge giving 240 miles range should be the industry standard.
My husband rented a Polestar 2 on our most recent trip to Orlando for spring break. We own a Tesla model 3, so we are already experienced EV drivers. Everything you said in this video was spot on, the car itself was fine, but the charging experience and Hertz rental felt very early adopter. Great video, we would not rent an EV going forward, travelers do not need this level of stress, it’s just too painful.
Great video. Electrify America, unfortunately, is a disaster.
I just bought a 2023 Polestar 2, exact same model, color and trim as the car in this vid--this is my first EV and I really like the car so far.
I rented a Polestar 2 from Hertz just last month. It was absolutely brilliant! I would love to own one of these cars.
The title for this video….”it did not go well”…is very misleading. The Polestar is fine. What didn’t go well is how Hertz handled your rental. I had similar issues with Hertz at Heathrow/London. But the Polestar performed great, and no issues with charging in the UK (used shell and BP stations to re-charge). However Hertz @Heathrow Airport was horrible…from having to wait 90 minutes before i even got helped, and then providing no assistance on how to use the car, and finally, nickel and dimming me on everything when I returned the car a week later. i had a small scrape on the wheel rim that I got while parking, and Hertz charged me $200 for the repair. Every car rental company I have ever used, treats minor scratchers on the tire rim as “normal wear and tear”…but not Hertz.
Thank you for that video…You have just confirmed my notion to never get an electric vehicle.
I can understand you sir. I'm feeling the same way about those EVs.
I had a 2014 BMW i3 from 2018 until 3 months ago, the battery degraded to the point that I did not feel comfortable selling the car private party. Instead, I did what any frustrated petrolhead would do, I traded it on a used 2014 BMW M5. I would say that is the exact polar opposite of the i3. No regrets at all, I will not miss the i3 at all and can honestly say, that was my last electric car.
On my second Tesla after 5 yrs, travel regularly, never had a problem with Tesla superchargers. They are seamless, now charge 20- 80% in about 15-20 mins
@@gregoryvangundy6170 still too slow, needs to be 5 minutes really to compete with a regular car
I agree, if you can't charge at home. If you have to rely solely on public charging, you could be in for a similar experience to this video. To do it for a short period, just to 'try it out', would be a fun learning experience, but, to have to deal with this all the time, I don't think I would get an EV. Since I can charge at home, my next car WILL be an EV. It costs me $.08 per mile to drive my Toyota Prius, (gasoline $4.00 per gallon) It cost me $.0285 per mile, to drive a 2023 Chevy Bolt EUV, charging at home, (Electricity, $.114 per kWh) That's just over 1/3 the cost of gasoline in one of the best hybrids out there. The Prius averages about 50 MPG, the Bolt EUV averaged about 4 miles per kWh, measured at the outlet I plugged it into. "Plug to Pavement".
Public charging, different story! If I charged at $.50 per kWh, it costs EXACTLY $.08 per mile to drive the Bolt, The same as the Prius!! With the Prius, you can do a "splash and dash", get 250 miles of range in less than 3 minutes, 1/10 the time it would take, to get even 150 miles in an EV battery.
I don't think I ever want an electric car based on this video.
His experience with the car was actually excellent. It's the rental company and car charging options in that area that ruined his experience.
I drive an EV and charge at home or work and I would highly recommend it. If you have to use public chargers, then it gets potentially bad because public EV chargers are currently somewhat unreliable. They should become much more reliable in the next coming years though since they'll need high reliability to take the subsidies.
Lol.
@@peterkn2 Hopefully someday. Currently most people that live in a condo or apartment or rent their house don't have the option to charge at home and most people do not have the option at work either.
Never had a problem refueling my diesel car with a credit card? Doesn't take 45 mins to fill with 51% to get me 270 miles. I can put in 11 gals in 5 mins and do 600 miles. His electricity cost him 12.2c/mile. My Mazda 2 diesel costs 6.9c/mile. A Tesla costs $60000 and my Mazda costs $20,000 . Why on earth would I buy an electric car - unless I had my brain removed.
The country is still on a learning curve regarding EV's - A bit of a novelty for rental caar companies. I'm not ready to jump - I like quick fill-ups, headroom, rural driving, simple credit card purchases. I guess I'll leave it to the early implementers to work out the bugs.
I made it to 3:30 mins and I was done. Waaaaay too much work to figure out how to make the car go, and then, waaaay too much work to, well, make the car go. I'll admit that I'm technology resistant (don't even have a smart phone), but that dashboard is ridiculous.
$33.54 for a full charge - we're starting to approach gasoline prices with these EVs
And that's before the tax gets ratcheted up to compensate for the fall in gasoline revenue.
You didn't actually think the government would force you into something that would SAVE you money...did you? Of course not....
I rented a Tesla from Hertz, and “it didn’t go well”. Problem is with Hertz, not the car.
I'm sure that's true, but there's a big difference between a car made in China (the Polestar) and a car made... literally anywhere else.
I rented a polestar 2 from hertz here in Minnesota last Thursday and Friday, it went well except I knew nothing about electric cars, much charger anxiety, the first day I was ready to bring it back but the 2nd day was getting the hang of it more and more, the biggest help were other users at the charging stations, they were incredibly willing to help if you asked them, I would rent one again, I have a video on my you tube
What is the name of your channel? I would like to see your video...
Lmao. Dude pay the $10 to charge the car to 70%. Man went on a mission to waste his time and ours
Boomers being boomers. "What do you mean I have to download an app?!"
I'd never consider renting an electric car, too many things to learn while navigating a city you may not know, the added stress while on holiday is not something I would want. Bad Idea.
That's correct. Every car brand has a different charging procedure and you always end up googling for solutions or calling support. On top of that and this is common to all modern cars, they moved a lot of basic fuctionalities to the central infotainement screen and each brand sets it according to their taste. Now you need to spend some time before leaving the rental parking to figure out how to put on fog lights and setting the A/C. I remember once it suddenly started to heavily rain and I could not find the menu where to increase the wipers speed.
My vehicle gets 40 mpg.. So, I would need 6 gallons of gasoline to get the same range. The 6 gallons would cost about $21, which is actually less than what you paid. If you value your time, you wasted about an hour more than what refueling with 6 gallons would take and it cost more money. So, please tell me what the advantage of using an electric powered car is ? All I see are disadvantages. THE ENTIRE EXPERIENCE IS NOT READY FOR PRIME TIME .. PERIOD
It gives stupid people a warm fuzzy feeling . Because that car probably will never be driven enough to justify the pollution caused to make it above what your car caused .
EV owner here. Definite advantage if you charge at home or at work. Otherwise, absolutely not ready for primetime.
The EV fan boys claim the cost works out that driving the EV per mile is far less expensive that an ICE car. But, these number sure don't show that. But, the 45 minute charge time is the deal breaker for a car that I might be traveling long distance in. I can pump 20+ gallons, have a restroom break, buy some snacks, and be back on the highway in less than 20 minutes.
Was thinking the same thing, this is no fuel cost saver!
@@shermandaniel8285 LOL brainwashed to believe in pointless agenda nonsense. You just ignore the hard facts that Level 2 Charging is roughly 20c per kwh Half the price of this Level 3 DC Fast Charger. Thus almost 1/2 the price of Fuel. Vast majority of charging sessions is done on Level 2 AC not Level 3 DC.
I'm pretty sure I'd grow tired of waiting 45min to 'gas up.'
And you are promised fast chargers will be just around the corner. It’s all pie in the sky.
@@pat5882 Just like most of Elon's promises.
45 min? - luxury! - In the winter, that's 2+ hours to warm up the battery and the range drops to 75 miles at motorway speeds with the heating on. The Tesla superchargers are also nearly double the price per mile vs diesel, in the UK anyway and the newer models with LFP batteries are even worse when it comes to temperature sensitivity and charge speeds.
I’ve rented a Tesla Model Y from Hertz and my experience was so much better than yours. Using the Tesla Superchargers was easy and they ALWAYS worked the first time. All charges go to the credit card Hertz has on file (since renters don’t have access to Tesla app).
When I made my reservation Hertz emailed me a few links to quick videos they made on how to unlock and lock the doors, how to start the car, and how to recharge it, I found those helpful. But I also did a ton of research on my own about ALL the features the Tesla offered. I was glad I did as whoever had it before me had turned off most of the electric car features to make it feel more like a gas engine car…which was not what I wanted.
Like you, I was confused about what level of charge I needed to return the vehicle, since hertz doesn’t make that clear….but they DO have rules about it. I never did get a satisfactory answer from Hertz so I just made sure it was close to 80%.
Volvo will make a deal like everyone else is for supercharger. But Tesla owners will now have lines.
@@eleventy-seven Look at the EV sales stats for the first half of 2023. The number of new Tesla Model Y vehicles purchased during that period dwarf the number that Volvo and other have sold. And Tesla has presumably been building out their charging network for some time now to handle the grow of their own cars, which far exceed that of other brands. Even with the huge increase of Tesla Model 3 and Model Y cars this year, I've yet have to to wait in line on the occasions I need to charge on a road trip.
That all said, mostly I charge my Tesla at home.
@@eleventy-seven But Tesla is currently working on expanding their network to accommodate everyone. In another video they said their location is currently expanding from about 10 stations to 20 with further plans to add an additional 50 Tesla charging stations. And more and more locations will be added as well.
Honestly, electric charging may be very good for the convenience store market! I never go in to the store when filling my ICE car. But went into everyone and made a purchase when waiting for my electric vehicle to charge.
@@eleventy-seven Tesla is rapidly building a lot more super charger. Plus, most other charging station companies have said they will start adding the “Tesla” plug to their stations too.
I rented a Tesla Model 3 through Hertz under Uber Electric Car Rental program. The quoted price was 300$ a week and when I returned the car I was charged 450$ a week plus recharge fee of 35$ even though the car was at 40% charge when I picked it up and I returned it at 60%. I was also charged a cleaning fee even though the car was filthy when I picked it up and ran it through the car wash+vacuum before dropping it off. Hertz Electric car rental plus Electrify America chargers is only for those who want to be duped and incredibly frustrated.
Thank you for a different angle on the EV experience. It was more about Hertz and public charging and related struggles, but very helpful perspectives. The bit on first time essential taps on screen was what I appreciated about the Polestar 2 itself.
I think a better title would have been "Hertz doesn't know how to rent EVs, and EA isn't a solid charging network"....because it sounds like you liked the car. But the title more or less implies there was a problem with the car.
Hey just be glad hurtz didn't file a stolen car report, they had issues with that in the past.
By sheer luck we rented a Polestar 2 in San Diego for spring break. I had a total blast driving during the week. Found a high speed charger at a park and ride about 5 min from our rental and charged two nights for about an hour total for around $50. It was an excellent experience and the first time I'd ever driven or had any experience with an EV.
no way im gonna sit in the car and wait 40mins to charge. This is a complete waste of time.
Thought this would be about the car. The charger and hertz were the problem
Surprised it wasn’t. Polestar doesn’t enjoy a good reputation for being reliable. Will you explain to me why this push to electric vehicles when places like California can barely keep up with demand now? And no, you can’t just add more transformers. Not when the lines are close to melting.
I rented a Polestar from Hertz recently and my experience was different from yours. I was informed to return the car at the same level it was charged at by the attendant(same thing they do with gas cars). I will say my name was not on the board either but they did quickly tell me which spot the car was in. I had a great time and may consider buying one. I guess everyone's experience differs.
Same - I was informed of the $35 CPO fee, which I opted for. My vehicle was at 87% when I started it for the first time.
so the car is ok but all the supporting infrastructure in the US isnt up to par, same as the UK 😂
Most EV users are commuters and charge at home. Cross country or rental EV driving is probably not the intended end-user. Our family got the Volvo XC-90 plug-in hybrid because we need short commutes but international driving to see fam in summer. Our mileage is 36mpg which is pretty darned good for a full size SUV.
So if you have no infrastructure over there and you don’t have enough generating power to do much more than keep up with current demand and the batteries are coming from China why are they Hell bent on making you people drive electric cars? They’re getting paid! The WEF and other elites want you driving that crap 💩 because you are easily manipulated. Considering the situation that Europe is in, it makes no sense
When you rent from Hertz......It hurts !
👏😂👍aaahhhh I see what you did there! Great pun!!
You just talked me out of buying an electric car 😒
This is renting.........
So you paid $21 for 56% of charge, which would be about 100 miles. That's not a deal, at all. 100 miles is 2.5 gallons of gas in my car, which would cost around $9. Plus you have to wait 45 minutes at the charging station, vs. 3 or 4 minutes to put a couple of gallons of gas in. What happened to all the hype about electric cars being so much cheaper to run?!? No thanks!
Fast charging really should only be used on long trips, ideally.
Cars sit around doing nothing parked for the majority of the time. The trick is to fuel them up at those times on slower chargers. It's much cheaper and when the car is sitting parked anyway the user waiting time is zero--better than gasoline fillups.
Can be difficult with rentals especially. Best case is maybe hotel has a charger for overnight use. Public charging infrastructure still has a ways to go.
Imagine never charging your phone overnight or at work and you always had to find some plug out and about--yeah that's what you do when you spend a day traveling at airports and such, but the phone ownership experience is so much better when you can charge it overnight and at work.
Yes, it's insane, everyone keeps reporting how much cheaper EVs are to run, but let's look at the real costs: batteries on average fail around 150k mile mark and cost $20k to replace, that's $0.13 per mile in battery cost alone! - add to that the $0.21 per mile to charge publicly and that's 3x+ the price of running a diesel car easily... Even if you have a solar installation at home, how much do those cost for the 20-25 year lifespan? - it takes 15+ years to breakeven in many parts of the world, just around the time when failures start to happen and the installation company is long gone to honour any warranty claims...
@@Pyedr I would LOVE to have a phone I can charge once a month with a 5 minute stop on the way somewhere and not worry about putting it in battery saver more or turn the screen off, like I do with my diesel vehicle. But at least with a phone, you generally have a 1.5-2 day battery life now, when this was under a day, it was painful. With an EV your battery life is about 1.5 hours in the winter at motorway speeds, it's just not usable for most people, most of the time.
And it's also only getting worse with the new LFP batteries they now use to avoid the reliance on cobalt. They have less energy density/capacity, more sensitive to temperature changes and have slower charging.
You baited this Title to Mean you Had Problems with Polestar 2 which you didn't. Change your title because I watched this for NOTHING and sped through your banter to find you had gripes with HERTZ and not Polestar! I don't usually watch older people do reviews and THIS IS WHY. PROVED MY POINT!
Perhaps you should seek some help : anger management... 😂
I planned an EV rental from Hertz thinking it'd probably a Tesla Model 3 RWD. Today, I received an email from Hertz indicating that it's likely to be a polestar and my immediate concern is about charging on the road. Googlefu bring me to this video and doesn't disappoint me. This is the title I see "I rented a 2023 Polestar 2 from Hertz...It did not go well. 😡"
Other than the dig at older people, this is a fair point. The reviewer had issues with Hertz that might have happened with an ICE car. Polestar did nothing wrong other than normal EV learning curve stuff.
Fully agree. Only renting EVs with Hertz and loving it. You need to prepare and know where lvl3 charging stations are and if I look at the end of the video looks like he is charging at a lvl1 station while there are two free lvl2 or lvl3…(judging from the size of the transformers)…you kinda have to know what you are doing and you’ll be happy.
Every time I watch a video of someone trying to charge a non-Tesla eV, it makes me glad we own Tesla's. Tesla makes eV ownership convenient and easy, the rest do not.
Really? A piece of shit car with crap quality, and can't be fixed by anyone except Tesla----wait until it's 10 years old and you have a $4,000 repair on a $3,000 car, that can't even be sold for parts. Not a car, just a toy
@@chadhaire1711 Are you an engineer with expertise in the field? I suspect that you are not. eV batteries should be good for about 1,000,000 miles- not many ICE vehicles will get anywhere near that kind of longevity.. eVs generally aren't "sold for parts" because they have very few parts-the drivetrain in an ICE vehicle contains 2,000+ moving parts typically, whereas the drivetrain in an EV contains around 20. Simpler, more reliable, and no need to carry thousands of "parts" that can break down.
@@chadhaire1711I’ve owned three. You haven’t a clue what you’re talking about. No maintenance other than tyres and maybe brakes at 200k miles. That’s it.
@@libertarian4323 This from a guy with such a sad life he has to subscribe to 214 you tube channels---LOL--have a lot of time on your hands do you? I am not an engineer, I do test factory cars for a living...been doing it for over three decades...know a bit more about the subject than you. EV cars have only one advantage--cheap power. $90K for a Dodge Hellcat to go 0-60 in 3.6 seconds or $60K for a KIA GT to go 0-60 in 3.2 seconds. Other than that there are ZERO advantages to an EV. EV batteries are good for about 100,000-150,000 miles at which they have lost 30% of charge capacity...so your Ford electric truck rated at 210 miles, and drops to 95 miles when towing or in cold weather will has dropped to 60 miles at 100K miles. Your "million mile" battery is bullshit. Oh yes and catching on fire--Ford dealers no longer have their EV's in the showroom--they dont want the building burning down...one F150 EV burned an entire row of trucks on the lot---many tow companies are refusing to tow an EV. Good for the environment? What a crock...it take tons of earth just to make on battery....the environmentalists have already shut down mining all over the globe.....to put 300 million electric cars on the road would require more earth destruction in one year than all the years before...yet the fools want electric cars at the same time. Keep watching your you tube channels--CNBC has more propaganda for you.
@@alexnutcasio936 At 100K miles EV batteries have lost up to 30% of charge ability Goober and dont let that Tesla Toy get in an accident-----fender bender for $20K.....LOL....and be sure to take a long trip coast to coast...and stop every 250 miles for a 20 minute charge instead of a gas car stopping every 400 miles for a 5 minute fill up----and if the gas car gets more than 21 mpg, its CHEAPER to fill than charging an EV. at a public station.......bet you are one of those who wore his Covid mask while driving in your car--by yourself.....LOL....
I rented a Mod 3 LR for a month from Hertz. It was a great experience. I am a gold card member too. but the staff gave me a 1 minute instruction, they showed me where to fill it up with gas... 🤣🤣🤣😅
That little fiasco convinced me not to go electric. Didn’t relish sitting on all those volts anyway.🇬🇧
I rented from Enterprise for 2.5 weeks while my ICE car was in the shop. They did explain how to use it and also explained the expectations so far as charge level upon return. I was at home (not on vacation, and just plugged it into 110v every night - I never once used a charge station.) The experience confirmed that as a daily driver for my job the range and 110v charging would be just fine. Regarding likes and dislikes of the car: I loved the front display behind the steering wheel - the 3D map view just makes perfect sense in that configuration. Driving position was very comfortable, and it was a blast to drive. I didn't care for the sunroof, as it was a black interior and doesn't have a way to filter the sun beyond the tinting. My BIGGEST dislike is one I've not heard anyone mention that drove me nuts, which is the key fob. The buttons are black (same as the body of the fob), tiny, and on the sides of the device. You have to look at it to know what you are about to press, which my 50+ year old eyes had a tough time with, especially at night. But overall I really liked the vehicle. When it is time to retire my current car, Polestar will be tops on my list to investigate further.
Given my experience as a both a Hertz Gold President's Circle member and daily driver of an EV with CCS since 2014, I can't say I'm surprised. Even with my preferred status (thanks to a credit card not frequency), I've had issues on about 1 in 3 Hertz rentals. No doubt their EV fleet was pushed down from corporate primarily for PR purposes. They clearly didn't build a proper infrastructure and training for the locations/franchisees. Also your EA experience mirrors mine. Out of three attempts at their stations, I've had one success. And that was with a membership setup in advance. Luckily I'm in California so I have multiple options to avoid them. One thing I have learned through experience is that regardless of network when the EVSE failed to connect after two attempts, call customer service. They sometimes can force a connection remotely. At the very least it notifies them maintenance is required.
You would be happy with an EV if you can charge at home. If you're on a trip, staying at a hotel, it might prove to be a hassle to have to rely on public charging networks. Even if it was as easy and straight forward as "pay at the pump", you're still looking at 15-30 minutes at a charge station, rather than 5 minutes at a gas pump. If you have available "destination charging", you're going to like EV a lot more. Just plug in overnight, and it's ready in the morning, without having to go anywhere for a charge. If you intend to rent an EV, make sure to book a hotel, with that available level 2 charging. The charge interface cable will come with the rental.
So true. I'm Hertz Gold in California as well and I couldn't agree more with what you just said.
It basically took him an hr. to get a59% charge (31% to 90%).
There was only one car at the other pumps.
What if the other pumps were all busy? Then he has to wait for one of them to finish before he gets to spend an hour at the pump.
No thanks. I will stick to gas. Hybrid is the only option that makes sense.
I had a hybrid and I think it was awesome and it seems like a fantastic compromise
Teslas are WAY easier and faster to charge at superchargers. I have never felt inconvenienced or delayed on trips, and it is half the price of fossil fuel per mile driven. Of course the great majority of charging is done at home during the night, and you can wake up with a full tank of electrons without driving to a gas station.