Unfortunately, I think this was doomed to fail. Fox didn't care enough about The Fantastic Four, they just wanted to keep it away from Marvel. Josh Trank wasn't a fan of the comics, that's a bad combination. There was also a rumor that Fox mandated that Doom be the main villain, so whoever made the movie could only make it somewhat different from the 2005 movie. Trank seemed to be more interested in Mole Man, which was apparently the only F4 character he got.
46:57 yeah because I think it not only effected this movie but also Amazing Spider-Man 2 and speaking of the body horror aspects I think that they should have used a different villain for this movie instead of Dr Doom like the Red ghost and the super apes or the original script Annihilus and the Moleman
Honestly, looking back at it now and depending on how superhero movies are today this film was way ahead of its time because we see what Matt reeves did with Batman. I feel as though if this film were to be given a chance, it would’ve been the perfect counter to the bright and colorful MCU
I’m not sure about that because wasn’t the darker tone meant to jump on the Nolan Batman train with the darker tone and more realistic so was it ahead of it’s time or just going along with the trend at the time
the problem is they were using the exact WRONG characters for a matt reeves batman style movie the comics can get pretty dark sometimes but writers still remember that a franchise called "The Fantastic Four" doesn't work well with "dark edgy body horror where everyone sits in a pitch black room and talks"
Really great video, man. Thank you🤙 The new MCU version will hopefully be the one 😅. I hope something from the 60s brings them to the current time (like Cap).
Fun fact: This was my most least favorite movie ever until a movie who’s title I refuse to mention because it does a piss poor job at Autism and getting a non autistic person (cough cough) became my new least favorite most hated movie
idk why the algorithm is giving me an hour long comic movie deep dive with 400 views but a dirty slut for long form content about stuff i dont care about. about 15 min in atm. maybe slow down a bit? the script is nice and tight. good flow. good work. keep it up
Yeah, but she really wanted to be in a superhero movie. The only positive thing to come out of her being in them is that she met her husband, Jamie Bell.
Really good vid, I enjoyed it very much. I take exception to being called a racist troll. I just didn't think that there was a really good reason to make Johnny Storm black. Nothing against Michael B. Jordan, he's a terrific actor. But to change a well loved character to a different race for no reason....it makes you wonder who the real racists are...
I think most people had the same sentiment concerning the Storm family. It made it an issue that didn't need to be there, many such cases in modern times sadly.
He should’ve realized that SUCESS IS THE BEST REVENGE from the school bullies. Damn. I can’t believe people still carry around what happened in high school. That seems so crazy to me bc who cares!? I’m sure the bullies aren’t thinking about the people they picked on
Where exactly did it say that he was the victim of bullying? It sounded to me like the competitive nature of the part of Los Angeles that he grew up in gave him a huge chip on his shoulder.
THING is, this could've been FANTASTIC, but I guess it was DOOMed from the beginning
Not as clever as you’d hoped lol
Underrated comment.
Say that again
Unfortunately, I think this was doomed to fail. Fox didn't care enough about The Fantastic Four, they just wanted to keep it away from Marvel. Josh Trank wasn't a fan of the comics, that's a bad combination. There was also a rumor that Fox mandated that Doom be the main villain, so whoever made the movie could only make it somewhat different from the 2005 movie. Trank seemed to be more interested in Mole Man, which was apparently the only F4 character he got.
Seriously such an awesome video! Keep it up, I’m sure the deep dives can be exhausting but you are awesome at telling the stories❤
This just popped up on my front page and i’m happy it did! great work brother keep it up. love the in depth reviews
You should talk about Batman v Superman next and what happened
Great video. I have a facination with this film. It would have been good to have seen Trank's version of the film.
In all fairness, the comics used the "FANT4STIC" variation before Fox's movie.
I unironically love the soundtrack to the film.
46:57 yeah because I think it not only effected this movie but also Amazing Spider-Man 2 and speaking of the body horror aspects I think that they should have used a different villain for this movie instead of Dr Doom like the Red ghost and the super apes or the original script Annihilus and the Moleman
Honestly, looking back at it now and depending on how superhero movies are today this film was way ahead of its time because we see what Matt reeves did with Batman. I feel as though if this film were to be given a chance, it would’ve been the perfect counter to the bright and colorful MCU
I’m not sure about that because wasn’t the darker tone meant to jump on the Nolan Batman train with the darker tone and more realistic so was it ahead of it’s time or just going along with the trend at the time
the problem is they were using the exact WRONG characters for a matt reeves batman style movie
the comics can get pretty dark sometimes but writers still remember that a franchise called "The Fantastic Four" doesn't work well with "dark edgy body horror where everyone sits in a pitch black room and talks"
Really great video, man. Thank you🤙 The new MCU version will hopefully be the one 😅. I hope something from the 60s brings them to the current time (like Cap).
First time watching this channel. Is the constant repetition of words/sayings etc intentional?
Fun fact: This was my most least favorite movie ever until a movie who’s title I refuse to mention because it does a piss poor job at Autism and getting a non autistic person (cough cough) became my new least favorite most hated movie
Yeah, that Fant4stick title... How did that get signed off on. Also, /subbed 🤙
It showed up on the comics before the movie, so ask Marvel.
FOX deserve more blame. They wanted a The Dark Knight, a realistic dark take, much like Sony did with The Amazing Spider-Man.
idk why the algorithm is giving me an hour long comic movie deep dive with 400 views but a dirty slut for long form content about stuff i dont care about. about 15 min in atm. maybe slow down a bit? the script is nice and tight. good flow. good work. keep it up
Still did better than the marvels
Not really a high bar
definitely better than Madame Webb
Better than joker folie a deux.
This movie definitely needed a rewrite
That was the problem though. It suffered from too many rewrites.
They finally did gambit 😂
Kate Mara needs to stay away from superhero movies. Anyone else remember Zoom: Academy for Superheroes?
Yeah, but she really wanted to be in a superhero movie. The only positive thing to come out of her being in them is that she met her husband, Jamie Bell.
@@billybarnett9518 As awful as Fant4stic was, I'm sure they don't completely hate it for that very reason.
How was that her fault? All she did was act in it.
Really good vid, I enjoyed it very much. I take exception to being called a racist troll. I just didn't think that there was a really good reason to make Johnny Storm black.
Nothing against Michael B. Jordan, he's a terrific actor. But to change a well loved character to a different race for no reason....it makes you wonder who the real racists are...
That was my bad, that wasn't my intent.
Agreed!! I’m half black and I didn’t want a black Jonny storm either!! Let things be what they started out as!! Is that so wrong???
I think most people had the same sentiment concerning the Storm family. It made it an issue that didn't need to be there, many such cases in modern times sadly.
He should’ve realized that SUCESS IS THE BEST REVENGE from the school bullies. Damn. I can’t believe people still carry around what happened in high school. That seems so crazy to me bc who cares!? I’m sure the bullies aren’t thinking about the people they picked on
Where exactly did it say that he was the victim of bullying? It sounded to me like the competitive nature of the part of Los Angeles that he grew up in gave him a huge chip on his shoulder.