What's great about you stripping all the way down that you can create a wonderful interior use every space. Use some beautiful wood. And redesign some great living spaces.❤
Exactly! Creating a new interior was the plan from the beginnen. But it wasn't the plan to rip everything out in about 2 weeks or so. What do you think? Cherry, Mahogany, Walnut or Smoked Oak?
I, for one, am also so very happy that you have saved this beautiful old ship. She deserves it. Well done. You have my total respect and admiration. I have worked on old sailing boats, they are very tough taskmasters, but ultimately, very rewarding.
Hi John, it seams like you're enjoying the playlist and that's always the biggest compliment you can make. An old boat is a huge amount of work and there are so many decisions to make. It's not easy but we hope we can make it.
I worked on a Railroad as a Freight Car Repairman. I can concur that the air gun is the best possible way to remove large amounts of rust. We would strip the coal cars down to bare metal then repaint them. It was satisfying work and I know how you feel about your ship. Well done. Hope to see you on the water soon.
Thank you! The big fight against the long row of disappointments is won. Now it's a fight against getting more exhausted every day and it's more difficult to work outside when the weather is cold and damp. Especially when painting and de- rusting. It's a bit of an open secret that the videos are a bit behind so it's basically a story of HOW we got back into the water.
Air chisel work it SO satisfying! Visible progress that adds up quickly! And, it cleans things up nicely! And yes, the Flying Coney is a beautiful ship, getting more beautiful every day.
After our last video Tercoo wrote us a nice response and they told us "they see their product as a good alternative to sandblasting if it's not possible or reasonable." We got rid of a lot of RUST with this amazing machine and done IS better than perfect! Also, we own a high quality a needle gun, so there's a reason why we choose to work with the Tercoo and the air chisel!
As an industrien painter and sandblaster i kan rekomend tryiing sandwaching . It is very effektiv and no dust . You just need to spray the surfases whith a degreaser and it vont rust for som days . Vill also rekoment som sort of mastic paint direkt on the steel ( jotamatstic intermastik) thanks for videos. Norway
I bet when you first pulled the boat out and started on the inside, your jaw dropped. But with perseverance and hard work. Look where you’re at today. So much done. Proud of both of you. Full steam ahead. Thanks
In the water Flying Coney doesn't look too big. So taking her out certainly gave us that iceberg feeling and we thought that will be tough one or two weeks. That was before we discovered the corrosion damage...
I think you have great tenacity. I think its great you love the boat - this will bring you through the hard times. You have both a commendable work ethic. I trust you will draw pleasure from small steps forward.
People that aren't into boats don't understand that boats are a compromise, there are no perfect boats. Finding a particular boat, at a particular price and in certain condition is actually quite difficult. If an individual had unlimited funds, and just wanted a production power boat of a certain size then the options are plentiful. It took me five years to find my boat, much difficulty to bring her home and I'm still working on her three years later. But, I wouldn't change a thing - these hardships have helped me to appreciate this boat even more and I enjoy sailing her every minute that I can.
@@FlyingConey I own and sail a Cape Dory 27, a beautiful traditional full keeler built for blue water. It's not quite the project as yours but I'm also quite a bit older and doing this on my own with limited funds. I sail single handed and prefer to hank my head sails on, she's the right size for me. Good luck with your project and I sympathize with affirmation process. Been there.
I already said it, but gonna repeat. Production quality became very good! Your camera and lighting setups as well as acquired skills are paying off! Amazing!
Thank you! Fun fact, most of the camera gear has magnets built in. The ND filter, the video lights, the microphones and so on. There's still rusty dust on all those magnets 😁 Also if you watch the scenes with the air chisel closely you see me using the video lights as work lights. But they turned out to be tough enough and they don't flicker. A few videos back we filmed the removing of the sea strainer and attached the light right above it, we didn't finished with removing the sea valve that day because Albert wanted to show us something and we forgot to take the light with us. It wasn't until we came back to the removing of the sea valve until we found our light again. They are easy to spot if they're on but once they ran out of battery you better know were you left them. 🤣
Thank you! We also really fell in love with her at first sight and after all we're glad that we didn't knew in before hand how it feels to work three month plus in an heave industrial environment...
Each video is more entertaining than the one before. You two are really doing a great job.. Thank you for the content, it is truly enjoyable to experience your journey with you on this massive project.
I agree it is the most beautiful ship, perfect for you two. At times I imagine that you will question your sanity, doubting if you choose the right vessel to build into your dream sailing vessel! Keep at it step by step, I and imagine lots of people see the hidden diamond underneath all the rust and grime!
I'm a partially disabled elder and lover of the sailing life. Looking at the overall unfolding of life from eagle vision, life is seen as The Divine Plan. Your roles in The Divine Plan are certainly unique with a calling I admire. Highest Blessings
In my past life I rescued and refitted a 10.5 meter steel ketch. I share your pain on cleaning the inside of the hull. My choice was sand blasting. very time consuming and dirty. The results were worth the effort for me. Admired your dedication to a boat worth saving. Hope more history is found. A hull like yours with rivets must be close to more than 70 years old. Keep the great videos coming along.
Seeing the large sheets of rust come off is oddly satisfying. I would use rust converter on the cleaned steel to stop the rust and get into all the small cracks. You can always sand blast or paint over it. Try putting your Tercoo rust grinder on a rope rope and pulley with a weight to balance the system. This allows you to move around without having to "hold up" the unit all day. When working overhead it is a life saver. Thank you for sharing the great video.
Love your enthusiasm and commitment and especially your hard work ethic. It's what has sustained me my whole life. Thank you for sharing this part of your lives.
I have just binged watched all your videos. Interesting, inspiring and a bit heartbreaking all at the same time. Owning a 40ft steel yacht myself, that I have more or less completed all the hull restoration work on , I have some key learnings from the past five years to share with you. 1. While rust will feel incredibly demoralising, in many ways it is your best friend. The great thing about steel , unlike almost all other hull materials, is that it has only one failure mode - and if it is in an accessible location - then you will be able to see it early before it becomes a big problem. 2. 98% of rust on a boat will have one of three causes: poor paint adhesion, dissimilar metals, and wet timber. 3. Poor paint adhesion is of course all about preparation. People also worry a lot about removing all the rust mechanically, and while white metal blasting is the ideal, modern surface tolerant epoxies will let you can get away with a lower standard of preparation IF you can ensure the surface is chemically clean and grease free first. The big hidden enemy is chlorides; invest in a chloride test kit. You will thank me for this advice. Project Brupeg as you know uses phosphoric acid as the final preparation step and in this I think he is correct, as I suspect it gets the surface not only tightly adhered, but chemically correct as well. Also use a lot of bilge cleaner detergent to remove all grease and oils as the FIRST and LAST step in all prep work. Wet sanding with detergent can be really helpful. 4. Dissimilar metals need careful consideration. You can get away with mixing 316L and mild steel IF you use the correct welding rod and you thoroughly paint over the junction between the two. Avoid aluminum anywhere on a steel boat; literally everywhere it was on my boat there was a severe, but fortunately localised, corrosion. I cannot imagine why anyone used alloy anodes on your boat; in my opinion this was almost certainly the cause of your electrolysis damage. 5. Wet timber as you know by now is a nasty problem that will eat holes in places you cannot see, and this is very dangerous. My solution - and this is why I am typing out this comment for you - is to replace wood wherever possible with non-metallic materials. For beams I am having good success with RHS pulltruded fibreglass sections. Extremely strong and effective. For panels I have been slowly replacing all plywood with a material known here in Australia as Thermolite. This is a rigid polyurethane/fibreglass composite that is stronger and lighter than ply - and absorbs absolutely no water. It costs a bit more than marine ply, but it only needs a few coats of two pack polyurethane for a cosmetic finish. Far less labour and expoxy than ply - and I contend the total installed cost will be lower. At the end of this project, using it will save you maybe a tonne of weight. 6. Finally - and this is advice that some else gave me - is when you start designing the layout of all the plumbing, wiring and mechanicals , do your best to keep everything out of the bilges. You want this area clear, accessible and totally visible so that on a regular basis you can spray in bilge cleaner and then hose clean with fresh water. The bilges are naturally damp, by keeping them clean you will be able to see problems early. You will never stop the rust completely, this is just the nature of a steel vessel. But if you pay attention to the three main causes above, then you can slow it down to the point where it is manageable, and you can start enjoying sailing rather than maintaining. And you are definitely on the right track using Jotun paints in general. Good value and very reliable.
Yes, you should restore Flying Coney. While I love all ships and boats, something of grace and beauty was lost when sailing vessels disappeared from the seas.
Danke vielmals! Der Traum eines Tages mit Freunden und Gästen über die Ocean zu segeln macht die Arbeit erträglich. Ich hoffe das kommt im Video rüber.
I am so impressed with you both. You are saving a part of history and should be commended! I wish I was working there beside you. Much respect for you both.
Absolutely! We choose the air chisel over the needle gun because we mostly wanted to test the hull for week spots. At some points I even hammered away a bit of the concrete. The fun thing is we do own a needle gun and a compressor strong enough to operate it. It came with the boat, don't know why 😉😂
You have to be extra careful with the electric machines so they don't get caught in your voluminous hair. An accident happens faster than you think. Good luck with your continued work.
I believe that both cordless and electric/ air tools all have their place. Cordless for smaller hard to access places, air tools for large areas, if you can stand the noise. Both air and corded tools have the disadvantage of dragging a tail around with you. You use the tool that best suits the situation. Love watching you reclaiming such a interesting vessel.
I wonder how much less your ship displaces after all the rust is removed…I JEST..you are doing a great job and I admire your resolve.Having watched from the start I am looking forward to seeing you complete the work.All the best.Roly🇬🇧.
More than we were thinking. But actually I would like to remove as much weight above the waterline as possible to give her more freeboard. There's still so much we can remove, a concrete subfloor in the wheelhouse, the concrete in the drainages, the steel deck above the wooden deck, the whole superstructure aft, a not working generator, tanks tanks tanks... My guess is in the end she will have about 20cm more freeboard. We can add some of this removed weight bolted on to the keel to give her more stability. That's the sail racer speaking out of me 😂
There are low profile glasses frames meant for use with gas mask. Some are thin plastic straps with D-rings around the ears. Others clip inside the lense. Good luck keeping your respiratory health and thanks for the videos.
Is a grand thing seeing you two bring life back to this beautiful piece of history. Yes, you found the course you hoped to follow changed when she was hauled out. Ah, but you know, watching you two learn and become masters of many tasks I think you are on the right course. All the work and skill you are bringing to her will pay back ten fold in her future and your pride. If she could talk she would be proud of you two!
A friend of mine uses phosphoric acid in a product called OSFO, which turns any rusted surface black and NEVER rusts again. The real drawback is you need to be in a very well ventilated space or have a separate breathable air supply.
Such a massive amount of work.. you’re efforts to restore her are great and not to be underestimated. Restoration of any old vehicle is a massive undertaking I’m sure you can achieve the fantastic results you dreamed of when buying her. Little by little she will come back to life.. keep up with the work and try not be become discouraged by the amount of work left. One thing at a time..
Outstanding work all done properly as well. Your ship has a lot of good karma and love going into it and is the right fit for you. Excellent. Love your videos.
I think perhaps these good people have bitten off way more than they can chew. I have seen this before in the boatyard where I worked for 35 years. When they add up the hours, yard rent and material, they have $350,000.00 invested in a project that's worth $150,000.00 in the end.
When you first hauled Flying Coney and started your interior inspection I noted a bit of apprehension. Since, each video shows your determination and commitment. It's HEART WARMING, to note your love for sailing and that love transferred into such a project, as you return Flying Coney into a fine sailing schooner. She'll treat you well after the love and care you've demonstrated to date. Your video's are improving each episode and the audio accompaniment is superb. Thank you both for showing us what real commitment is all ab out and we wish you success with this massive project on a budget.
It's comments like this that makes it so much easier to produce the next episode. Thank you! We are at a difficult stage with the channel where it's not small and we're very grateful for all the support we're getting but we're still not where we need to be. But it's important to see the people behind the numbers and a comment like yours makes that easy. ❤️
What you have there is a boatt!!! "Bust Out Another Ten Thousand" Great project though she will be beautiful when you finish can't wait to watch you transform her into a master piece!!!
hi sailors it's nice to see your work and see your old glory restored and I've been following you for a long time, As an old seaman sailing as an engineer, I made the rust remover myself on board, I used bicycle chain, make it 4 pieces, 5 links long make a disc about 5 cm round from 3 mm steel plate in the middle a bolt m10 and tighten it well with a nut , divide the disc into 4 at the end about 3mm from the edge, make a hole for the pin of the chain to go through and rivet it, put the m10 bolt in the drill and hop running but the rust is gone and costs almost nothing to make, tip make several spare pieces of chain,, ps I will make a drawing and possibly post it if interested MVG Hank The Netherlands
there are two things, in most other shipyards it wouldn't have been possible to safe the ships and her beautiful lines and the great hull shape is probably the only reason why we keep on going.
There are corrective lenses for your eyes that are Adhesive and you stick them in the inside of the fullfaced respirator. They are cheap and available online.
"She's lovely on the foreyard, she's lovely down below, boys, Roll boys! Roll, boys, roll! She's lovely cause she loves me that's all I wanna know, boys, Weigh, high Miss Flying Coney! 🤣 She surely is OUR boat. Unique, interesting, not everybody's cup of tea but the more you get to know her the more you fall in love with her. Boats are a compromise but she is our "Tiny" compromise. (Tiny was her first name)
Pneumatic needle guns work well and leave a less gouged surface than air chisels. Both are hard on your hands ,ears ,lungs and eyes. Whichever air hand tool you use wear the thickest gloves you can find. When I was twenty I could gun all day. Now at 60 my hands go numb after about twenty minutes. A 19 pin needle gun will out perform your discs IMHO.
No matter how careful I was and even though I was always wearing eye protection and angle grinder spark ruined my regular classes, so that was an expensive close call. But also a lot of dust and scraped off paint made it into the eyes. I needed an eye shower more than once and had the feeling of something is in there for several months. Of course I checked with an eye doctor and fortunately there was nothing in there. We truly wanted to test the hull plates for hidden holes and that's why we picked the chisel over the needle gun, but we bought a needle gun together with the boat. I can't even imagine how hard it is to do a job like this for years for a living!
@@FlyingConey in really heavy rust we would wear googles respirator , ear plugs and ear muffhen hoody over top and a face shield over all, basically double everything. The thickness of the hoody softens the blows from flying chunks but it is annoying when wires from grinder brushes staple the hoody to you. Keep up the adventure!
I wouldn't say she is the most beautiful ship ever, however she has nice lines and you guys are kickin ass on gettin her ship shape!! Keep up the great work.
Excellent video! I've been following your progress but the scene beginning at 21:48 convinced me to subscribe. Your cinematography skills and choice of music really shined in that scene.
Hi Ken, actually Barbara insisted to put the painting into this video and after I've edited the scene I know why. I was a bit afraid of ending the video slow but it makes the video round and closes the task at least for the moment. Just an editors thought here and thank you for subscribing!
Maybe this will encourage you. Back in 1978, I built a 42 foot Junk Rigged Schooner (Gazelle). I used a two part inorganic zinc primer that looked very similiar to the two part primer I saw you apply in this episode. Two part epoxy went on over that. The boat is still sailing and has never been sand blasted down to bare metal after the initial application of the primer. Today's amazing coatings make steel vessels very practical. Take care.
Great update 2x👍 The needles guns are fun to use BUT only for 5 minuets. 😂 So no gym needed again this week arms of steel. 💪 As someone who will never go on Instagram it might be nice to have a second UA-cam channel to upload the Instagram videos too. No more editing just as they show on Instagram 😘👌 I live in hope.
We're also not the big Instagram users ourselves and that's why it took us so long to start a channel there. What I can imagine is a longer formate documentary here on this channel to recap the first two years with Flying Coney. Is that something you would be interested in?
Have you found this channel through that comment? I think what's similar is that we both have historic vessels in need of a lot of love. Also our approach of restoring frame by frame is very similar. We both can't afford nor want to rebuilt, nor have all the work done by a yard.
I use rust converter and three coats of lanolin in spaces where painting isn't durable like chain lockers with excellent results and the lanolin is a natural non hazardous product that can be recoated with no prep work.
Hi Dough, Lanolin seams to be a great natural material and Jan does think that the coating in the forecastle might even be Lanolin. Do you know a way to get it at a reasonable price point. I tried to find it but only can find the stuff for cosmetics.
I guess you are talking about boiled linseed oil. It is an excellent steel preserver and penetrates deeply into the pores of the rough surface. In the old days the fishing vessels used this on bare steel and it remained like new for decades..i even used it to preserve the underside of my old timer car... Much respect to your determination!!
The pneumatic chisel looks like one of the better tools. Fast and fun. I like the border explanation 15:20 Well its a shame you got some rust in you. Silicosis is no joke. It is good that you take dust serious. Yes, I'm going to refer to the Action store again, I really like the big safety glasses they, these don't fog up. Very cheap.. Used it on new years eve to walk the streets. Felt very secure. Good stuff. Lets wrap it up, and watch the rest I've missed thus far. I'm getting there. :D Greetings, Jeff
The early stages of a major renovation project are the toughest. Tearing things apart and facing the reality of the work that will be needed can be mentally stressful. But, if you get through that stage and begin to see progress, it gets easier. The bigger the project, the less you can focus on the completion and the more you should measure accomplishment by each small task.
I'm sure you have a similar product as what we have here in America called rust converter. It's a chemical process that converts the rust into a thick black coating
Hi Ben. Yes indeed, the development of rust converters wasn't unnoticed by people here in Europe 😂 At the point the video was filmed we were already so tiered that it wasn't possible for us to make reasonable decisions. It's kind of we forgot about putting rust converter on. But with steel ships it's a constant experiment and now 6 months later the hull is still rust free even without the rust converter.
When I clean up rusted metal I always use a 5 in side grinder with a real good wire wheel and in just a short time I can clean up several feet of metal surface and it's ready to weld paint whatever you want or need to do. So you might look into it. It really works great.
In the Submarine Biz they call that "Pickup Welding", and I've done my share of that working on over 25 Subs of 3 different classes...I always preferred the Needlegun myself for cleaning, but that's just me I guess...
Thank you! Yes we do own a Needle Scaler. But we mostly wanted to test the hull and make sure that there are no holes. Getting rid of buckets of rust was a nice side effect!
I really like the metal interior with the round shapes and the rivets. I would not coat the walls on the inside and only paint with epoxy paint. It may not be possible because the insulation is then not good.
It does look great! But your assumption is correct it's necessary to insulate the hull for living also to protect the from condensation. But since we're rebuilding Flying Coneys original wooden deck maybe we can have the steel deck beams visible.
Love the crispy part :-) How much volume rust builds up on steel? … Ah, you answered it, 1cm of rust ist 1mm of Steel… so the next 700 years or so of sailor will have some fun… A client of mine just launched a brad new 100M Euro+ Royal Huisman large ship and for sure Flying Coney comes with more beauty and character and nobody will ever beat her crew!
There's that saying that 1mm steel is about 1cm of rust. We believe Flying Coney was built with 1cm steel plates and we do have 7-8mm left so that could be accurate!
Daniel, you should get the hull smoother by removing bumps and filling holes with epoxy prior to painting. You will be able gain some more speed and FC will look nicer.
It really doesn't matter for the speeds we can reach and the voids are only above the waterline. Below it's fine. We actually like the original look of the old steel. There's a barge next to us with a completely faired hull and my honest opinion is that it looks like plastic. My saying is, if you wan't to have a new boat buy a new boat.
Hi guys, a great episode again...thank you! You might want to look into the history of three-masted bark Stedemaeght. I volunteered sailing her for several years a decade ago as a deckhand. In case of a 'down moment' just sit, google and enjoy this beautiful ship and you're good to go again 😂
You do not want the steel to be shiny. For good adhesion, you want the ruff finish the Tercoo or sandblasting provides. Also please use the tercoo disk at 3000 rpm. A battery drill is useless.
Great to see you are thinking and protecting your lungs. Dust can contain some very nasty things. Even a simple N95 disposable mask, if fitted well, can do the job for you.
gday from Australia i am loving this reconstruction of this build its a pity you cant sand blast the hull here is a good opportunity for one of them laser blasting companies to show us just how good their product is lol all the best on ya flying coney ..
We considered laser blasting but at that stage we were already running on autopilot. We've simply forgotten to brush rust converter on the waterline before painting. If you look for it you can see how difficult it is for Daniel to walk... Not the best circumstances to rent a machine that is 5k a week. For the Tercoo, we really bought a complete second set of discs also one set for the big machine, so that's more than 500€ we spent out of our own pockets. That's how good they are 😉
What's great about you stripping all the way down that you can create a wonderful interior use every space. Use some beautiful wood. And redesign some great living spaces.❤
Exactly! Creating a new interior was the plan from the beginnen. But it wasn't the plan to rip everything out in about 2 weeks or so. What do you think? Cherry, Mahogany, Walnut or Smoked Oak?
I, for one, am also so very happy that you have saved this beautiful old ship. She deserves it. Well done. You have my total respect and admiration. I have worked on old sailing boats, they are very tough taskmasters, but ultimately, very rewarding.
Hi John, it seams like you're enjoying the playlist and that's always the biggest compliment you can make. An old boat is a huge amount of work and there are so many decisions to make. It's not easy but we hope we can make it.
I worked on a Railroad as a Freight Car Repairman. I can concur that the air gun is the best possible way to remove large amounts of rust. We would strip the coal cars down to bare metal then repaint them. It was satisfying work and I know how you feel about your ship. Well done. Hope to see you on the water soon.
Thank you! The big fight against the long row of disappointments is won. Now it's a fight against getting more exhausted every day and it's more difficult to work outside when the weather is cold and damp. Especially when painting and de- rusting. It's a bit of an open secret that the videos are a bit behind so it's basically a story of HOW we got back into the water.
Remember to oil your power chisel daily. A few drops of tool oil into the inlet port
Air chisel work it SO satisfying! Visible progress that adds up quickly! And, it cleans things up nicely! And yes, the Flying Coney is a beautiful ship, getting more beautiful every day.
I love the way you guys respect the PPE.
After our last video Tercoo wrote us a nice response and they told us "they see their product as a good alternative to sandblasting if it's not possible or reasonable." We got rid of a lot of RUST with this amazing machine and done IS better than perfect! Also, we own a high quality a needle gun, so there's a reason why we choose to work with the Tercoo and the air chisel!
As an industrien painter and sandblaster i kan rekomend tryiing sandwaching . It is very effektiv and no dust . You just need to spray the surfases whith a degreaser and it vont rust for som days . Vill also rekoment som sort of mastic paint direkt on the steel ( jotamatstic intermastik) thanks for videos. Norway
I bet when you first pulled the boat out and started on the inside, your jaw dropped. But with perseverance and hard work. Look where you’re at today. So much done. Proud of both of you. Full steam ahead. Thanks
In the water Flying Coney doesn't look too big. So taking her out certainly gave us that iceberg feeling and we thought that will be tough one or two weeks. That was before we discovered the corrosion damage...
Beautiful boat. Fantastic work. Outstanding couple!
Thank you soo much! We hope you've enjoyed the video! ❤️
You certainly have your work cut out but you are both determined to finish the project so I have full confidence in you both 👍
I think you have great tenacity. I think its great you love the boat - this will bring you through the hard times. You have both a commendable work ethic. I trust you will draw pleasure from small steps forward.
People that aren't into boats don't understand that boats are a compromise, there are no perfect boats. Finding a particular boat, at a particular price and in certain condition is actually quite difficult. If an individual had unlimited funds, and just wanted a production power boat of a certain size then the options are plentiful. It took me five years to find my boat, much difficulty to bring her home and I'm still working on her three years later. But, I wouldn't change a thing - these hardships have helped me to appreciate this boat even more and I enjoy sailing her every minute that I can.
That's true and I wish you all the best with your Boat. What type is it?
@@FlyingConey I own and sail a Cape Dory 27, a beautiful traditional full keeler built for blue water. It's not quite the project as yours but I'm also quite a bit older and doing this on my own with limited funds. I sail single handed and prefer to hank my head sails on, she's the right size for me. Good luck with your project and I sympathize with affirmation process. Been there.
I already said it, but gonna repeat. Production quality became very good! Your camera and lighting setups as well as acquired skills are paying off! Amazing!
Thank you! Fun fact, most of the camera gear has magnets built in. The ND filter, the video lights, the microphones and so on. There's still rusty dust on all those magnets 😁 Also if you watch the scenes with the air chisel closely you see me using the video lights as work lights. But they turned out to be tough enough and they don't flicker. A few videos back we filmed the removing of the sea strainer and attached the light right above it, we didn't finished with removing the sea valve that day because Albert wanted to show us something and we forgot to take the light with us. It wasn't until we came back to the removing of the sea valve until we found our light again. They are easy to spot if they're on but once they ran out of battery you better know were you left them. 🤣
Thanks for rescuing this great old boat,it will be beautiful once again
Thank you! We also really fell in love with her at first sight and after all we're glad that we didn't knew in before hand how it feels to work three month plus in an heave industrial environment...
Each video is more entertaining than the one before. You two are really doing a great job.. Thank you for the content, it is truly enjoyable to experience your journey with you on this massive project.
I agree it is the most beautiful ship, perfect for you two. At times I imagine that you will question your sanity, doubting if you choose the right vessel to build into your dream sailing vessel! Keep at it step by step, I and imagine lots of people see the hidden diamond underneath all the rust and grime!
I'm a partially disabled elder and lover of the sailing life. Looking at the overall unfolding of life from eagle vision, life is seen as The Divine Plan. Your roles in The Divine Plan are certainly unique with a calling I admire. Highest Blessings
In my past life I rescued and refitted a 10.5 meter steel ketch. I share your pain on cleaning the inside of the hull. My choice was sand blasting. very time consuming and dirty. The results were worth the effort for me. Admired your dedication to a boat worth saving. Hope more history is found. A hull like yours with rivets must be close to more than 70 years old. Keep the great videos coming along.
Seeing the large sheets of rust come off is oddly satisfying. I would use rust converter on the cleaned steel to stop the rust and get into all the small cracks. You can always sand blast or paint over it. Try putting your Tercoo rust grinder on a rope rope and pulley with a weight to balance the system. This allows you to move around without having to "hold up" the unit all day. When working overhead it is a life saver. Thank you for sharing the great video.
Love the story. Nice to hear the backstory as well. A fabulous filmography, keep it going folks 👍👍👍✌️
Love your enthusiasm and commitment and especially your hard work ethic. It's what has sustained me my whole life. Thank you for sharing this part of your lives.
A lot of love is going into your project......with even more blood and sweat.
The vision about flying above the waves one day keeps us going!
I have just binged watched all your videos. Interesting, inspiring and a bit heartbreaking all at the same time. Owning a 40ft steel yacht myself, that I have more or less completed all the hull restoration work on , I have some key learnings from the past five years to share with you.
1. While rust will feel incredibly demoralising, in many ways it is your best friend. The great thing about steel , unlike almost all other hull materials, is that it has only one failure mode - and if it is in an accessible location - then you will be able to see it early before it becomes a big problem.
2. 98% of rust on a boat will have one of three causes: poor paint adhesion, dissimilar metals, and wet timber.
3. Poor paint adhesion is of course all about preparation. People also worry a lot about removing all the rust mechanically, and while white metal blasting is the ideal, modern surface tolerant epoxies will let you can get away with a lower standard of preparation IF you can ensure the surface is chemically clean and grease free first. The big hidden enemy is chlorides; invest in a chloride test kit. You will thank me for this advice. Project Brupeg as you know uses phosphoric acid as the final preparation step and in this I think he is correct, as I suspect it gets the surface not only tightly adhered, but chemically correct as well. Also use a lot of bilge cleaner detergent to remove all grease and oils as the FIRST and LAST step in all prep work. Wet sanding with detergent can be really helpful.
4. Dissimilar metals need careful consideration. You can get away with mixing 316L and mild steel IF you use the correct welding rod and you thoroughly paint over the junction between the two. Avoid aluminum anywhere on a steel boat; literally everywhere it was on my boat there was a severe, but fortunately localised, corrosion. I cannot imagine why anyone used alloy anodes on your boat; in my opinion this was almost certainly the cause of your electrolysis damage.
5. Wet timber as you know by now is a nasty problem that will eat holes in places you cannot see, and this is very dangerous. My solution - and this is why I am typing out this comment for you - is to replace wood wherever possible with non-metallic materials. For beams I am having good success with RHS pulltruded fibreglass sections. Extremely strong and effective. For panels I have been slowly replacing all plywood with a material known here in Australia as Thermolite. This is a rigid polyurethane/fibreglass composite that is stronger and lighter than ply - and absorbs absolutely no water. It costs a bit more than marine ply, but it only needs a few coats of two pack polyurethane for a cosmetic finish. Far less labour and expoxy than ply - and I contend the total installed cost will be lower. At the end of this project, using it will save you maybe a tonne of weight.
6. Finally - and this is advice that some else gave me - is when you start designing the layout of all the plumbing, wiring and mechanicals , do your best to keep everything out of the bilges. You want this area clear, accessible and totally visible so that on a regular basis you can spray in bilge cleaner and then hose clean with fresh water. The bilges are naturally damp, by keeping them clean you will be able to see problems early.
You will never stop the rust completely, this is just the nature of a steel vessel. But if you pay attention to the three main causes above, then you can slow it down to the point where it is manageable, and you can start enjoying sailing rather than maintaining. And you are definitely on the right track using Jotun paints in general. Good value and very reliable.
Yes, you should restore Flying Coney. While I love all ships and boats, something of grace and beauty was lost when sailing vessels disappeared from the seas.
That's paint on the hull. So, going in the right direction. Great to see nearly all the welding done. Well done and keep going.
Allergrößter Respekt vor soviel Arbeit und Begeisterung für so ein schönes Schiff! 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Danke vielmals! Der Traum eines Tages mit Freunden und Gästen über die Ocean zu segeln macht die Arbeit erträglich. Ich hoffe das kommt im Video rüber.
I am so impressed with you both. You are saving a part of history and should be commended! I wish I was working there beside you. Much respect for you both.
That Air Hammer looks like the perfect tool for the interior rust. Definitely satisfying ;-)
Absolutely! We choose the air chisel over the needle gun because we mostly wanted to test the hull for week spots. At some points I even hammered away a bit of the concrete. The fun thing is we do own a needle gun and a compressor strong enough to operate it. It came with the boat, don't know why 😉😂
@Sailing Flying Coney thise needle guns are Very Loud!!
Flying Coney will look spectacular with a fresh coat of paint on her hull. What a unique and inspiring restoration.
That flying saw bit never gets old 😁
Barbara has just "stored" the saw blade in the saw so that it doesn't get lost. I thought she had prepared the saw, took it and off it went.
You have to be extra careful with the electric machines so they don't get caught in your voluminous hair. An accident happens faster than you think. Good luck with your continued work.
I believe that both cordless and electric/ air tools all have their place. Cordless for smaller hard to access places, air tools for large areas, if you can stand the noise. Both air and corded tools have the disadvantage of dragging a tail around with you. You use the tool that best suits the situation. Love watching you reclaiming such a interesting vessel.
Top tip: buy ear-protection with a sound system so you can listen to podcasts or music while grinding. Makes it a lot more enjoyable 😊
I wonder how much less your ship displaces after all the rust is removed…I JEST..you are doing a great job and I admire your resolve.Having watched from the start I am looking forward to seeing you complete the work.All the best.Roly🇬🇧.
More than we were thinking. But actually I would like to remove as much weight above the waterline as possible to give her more freeboard. There's still so much we can remove, a concrete subfloor in the wheelhouse, the concrete in the drainages, the steel deck above the wooden deck, the whole superstructure aft, a not working generator, tanks tanks tanks... My guess is in the end she will have about 20cm more freeboard. We can add some of this removed weight bolted on to the keel to give her more stability. That's the sail racer speaking out of me 😂
You are both such hard workers! So proud of you both!
Thank you very very much! 👍
There are low profile glasses frames meant for use with gas mask. Some are thin plastic straps with D-rings around the ears. Others clip inside the lense. Good luck keeping your respiratory health and thanks for the videos.
Is a grand thing seeing you two bring life back to this beautiful piece of history. Yes, you found the course you hoped to follow changed when she was hauled out. Ah, but you know, watching you two learn and become masters of many tasks I think you are on the right course. All the work and skill you are bringing to her will pay back ten fold in her future and your pride. If she could talk she would be proud of you two!
A friend of mine uses phosphoric acid in a product called OSFO, which turns any rusted surface black and NEVER rusts again. The real drawback is you need to be in a very well ventilated space or have a separate breathable air supply.
Airtools ls are the only way to go. Lighter, more efficient. Dump the electrics for you hull work. you willl greatly improve your efficiency!
Such a massive amount of work.. you’re efforts to restore her are great and not to be underestimated. Restoration of any old vehicle is a massive undertaking I’m sure you can achieve the fantastic results you dreamed of when buying her. Little by little she will come back to life.. keep up with the work and try not be become discouraged by the amount of work left. One thing at a time..
We all need some amount of iron in our body so don’t worry be happy
Brian
Sweden
Funny two seconds before the video words popped up I was thinking "oddly satisfying" to remove those large sheets of rust. lol
You're arms must be getting very toned and strong by now! It's looking much better. Thanks for edu-taining us!
Loved watching the rust fall away.
That was sooo satisfying. Also to find out that the condition of the hull plates isn't that bad was a big relief!
Outstanding work all done properly as well. Your ship has a lot of good karma and love going into it and is the right fit for you. Excellent. Love your videos.
I admire you tenacity in carrying on with the well done
You can also use a needle gun. And I think there is a lot more damage under the deck, so I would take out the ceiling first.
I think perhaps these good people have bitten off way more than they can chew. I have seen this before in the boatyard where I worked for 35 years. When they add up the hours, yard rent and material, they have $350,000.00 invested in a project that's worth $150,000.00 in the end.
When you first hauled Flying Coney and started your interior inspection I noted a bit of apprehension. Since, each video shows your determination and commitment. It's HEART WARMING, to note your love for sailing and that love transferred into such a project, as you return Flying Coney into a fine sailing schooner. She'll treat you well after the love and care you've demonstrated to date. Your video's are improving each episode and the audio accompaniment is superb. Thank you both for showing us what real commitment is all ab out and we wish you success with this massive project on a budget.
It's comments like this that makes it so much easier to produce the next episode. Thank you! We are at a difficult stage with the channel where it's not small and we're very grateful for all the support we're getting but we're still not where we need to be. But it's important to see the people behind the numbers and a comment like yours makes that easy. ❤️
I truly admire your persistence and I hope it doesn't break your hearts, you deserve every success.❤
What you have there is a boatt!!! "Bust Out Another Ten Thousand" Great project though she will be beautiful when you finish can't wait to watch you transform her into a master piece!!!
hi sailors
it's nice to see your work and see your old glory restored and I've been following you for a long time,
As an old seaman sailing as an engineer, I made the rust remover myself on board,
I used bicycle chain, make it 4 pieces, 5 links long
make a disc about 5 cm round from 3 mm steel plate
in the middle a bolt m10 and tighten it well with a nut ,
divide the disc into 4 at the end about 3mm from the edge, make a hole for the pin of the chain to go through and rivet it,
put the m10 bolt in the drill and hop running but the rust is gone and costs almost nothing to make,
tip make several spare pieces of chain,,
ps I will make a drawing and possibly post it if interested
MVG Hank
The Netherlands
That air chisel really does do a good job and you do have a pretty ship. Her lines are elegant…
there are two things, in most other shipyards it wouldn't have been possible to safe the ships and her beautiful lines and the great hull shape is probably the only reason why we keep on going.
You can get needle scaler attachments for an air chisel. It’s a cheaper option then a dedicated needle scaler and works well.
We've a high quality needle scaler. It's in the engine room tour! We bought and used the air chisel to test the steel for weak spots.
@@FlyingConey oh ok, now I understand what the method was.
There are corrective lenses for your eyes that are Adhesive and you stick them in the inside of the fullfaced respirator. They are cheap and available online.
Thanks, I'll check them out!
Brother when you think she’s the most beautiful boat in the world then she is truly the most beautiful boat in the world.👍
"She's lovely on the foreyard, she's lovely down below, boys,
Roll boys! Roll, boys, roll!
She's lovely cause she loves me that's all I wanna know, boys,
Weigh, high Miss Flying Coney! 🤣
She surely is OUR boat. Unique, interesting, not everybody's cup of tea but the more you get to know her the more you fall in love with her. Boats are a compromise but she is our "Tiny" compromise. (Tiny was her first name)
She will be a great ship adventure for all.
Your getting the hard work done and once the hull is sound you will be proud of all accomplishments . Well can't wait to see the next video .
Pneumatic needle guns work well and leave a less gouged surface than air chisels. Both are hard on your hands ,ears ,lungs and eyes. Whichever air hand tool you use wear the thickest gloves you can find. When I was twenty I could gun all day. Now at 60 my hands go numb after about twenty minutes. A 19 pin needle gun will out perform your discs IMHO.
No matter how careful I was and even though I was always wearing eye protection and angle grinder spark ruined my regular classes, so that was an expensive close call. But also a lot of dust and scraped off paint made it into the eyes. I needed an eye shower more than once and had the feeling of something is in there for several months. Of course I checked with an eye doctor and fortunately there was nothing in there. We truly wanted to test the hull plates for hidden holes and that's why we picked the chisel over the needle gun, but we bought a needle gun together with the boat. I can't even imagine how hard it is to do a job like this for years for a living!
@@FlyingConey in really heavy rust we would wear googles respirator , ear plugs and ear muffhen hoody over top and a face shield over all, basically double everything. The thickness of the hoody softens the blows from flying chunks but it is annoying when wires from grinder brushes staple the hoody to you. Keep up the adventure!
Your best episode yet...all the best from N.Z
I wouldn't say she is the most beautiful ship ever, however she has nice lines and you guys are kickin ass on gettin her ship shape!! Keep up the great work.
I believe it was cheaper start from zero than trying to repair a mount of rust.
Excellent video! I've been following your progress but the scene beginning at 21:48 convinced me to subscribe. Your cinematography skills and choice of music really shined in that scene.
Hi Ken, actually Barbara insisted to put the painting into this video and after I've edited the scene I know why. I was a bit afraid of ending the video slow but it makes the video round and closes the task at least for the moment. Just an editors thought here and thank you for subscribing!
Keep up all your hard work
Bet it’s going to come out awesome can’t wait to see you guys sailing
Hard workets. Skilled and super brave. BRAVO 👏👏👏💐
Maybe this will encourage you. Back in 1978, I built a 42 foot Junk Rigged Schooner (Gazelle). I used a two part inorganic zinc primer that looked very similiar to the two part primer I saw you apply in this episode. Two part epoxy went on over that. The boat is still sailing and has never been sand blasted down to bare metal after the initial application of the primer. Today's amazing coatings make steel vessels very practical. Take care.
Great update 2x👍 The needles guns are fun to use BUT only for 5 minuets. 😂
So no gym needed again this week arms of steel. 💪
As someone who will never go on Instagram it might be nice to have a second UA-cam channel to upload the Instagram videos too. No more editing just as they show on Instagram 😘👌 I live in hope.
We're also not the big Instagram users ourselves and that's why it took us so long to start a channel there. What I can imagine is a longer formate documentary here on this channel to recap the first two years with Flying Coney. Is that something you would be interested in?
@@FlyingConey I would be very interested to see that yes. 👍
I'm really pleased to see your comment on Ship Happens channel. Very different ships but similar stories!🎉
Have you found this channel through that comment? I think what's similar is that we both have historic vessels in need of a lot of love. Also our approach of restoring frame by frame is very similar. We both can't afford nor want to rebuilt, nor have all the work done by a yard.
tiene mucho trabajo pero cuando este listo sera muy bonito y grande, gracias por subir los videos, un abrazo
I use rust converter and three coats of lanolin in spaces where painting isn't durable like chain lockers with excellent results and the lanolin is a natural non hazardous product that can be recoated with no prep work.
Hi Dough, Lanolin seams to be a great natural material and Jan does think that the coating in the forecastle might even be Lanolin. Do you know a way to get it at a reasonable price point. I tried to find it but only can find the stuff for cosmetics.
I guess you are talking about boiled linseed oil. It is an excellent steel preserver and penetrates deeply into the pores of the rough surface. In the old days the fishing vessels used this on bare steel and it remained like new for decades..i even used it to preserve the underside of my old timer car...
Much respect to your determination!!
This video gives new meaning to the word or concept, "rust"
11:36-11:43 Very nice work.
Great video - lovely images and music.
Sent a link of your channel to a friend.
This is a fantastic story.
The pneumatic chisel looks like one of the better tools. Fast and fun.
I like the border explanation 15:20
Well its a shame you got some rust in you. Silicosis is no joke. It is good that you take dust serious.
Yes, I'm going to refer to the Action store again, I really like the big safety glasses they, these don't fog up. Very cheap.. Used it on new years eve to walk the streets. Felt very secure.
Good stuff.
Lets wrap it up, and watch the rest I've missed thus far. I'm getting there. :D
Greetings,
Jeff
So nice to see you guys doing a great job can't wait to see it painted. Please keep up the good work. Thanks for sharing the progress with us.
The early stages of a major renovation project are the toughest. Tearing things apart and facing the reality of the work that will be needed can be mentally stressful. But, if you get through that stage and begin to see progress, it gets easier. The bigger the project, the less you can focus on the completion and the more you should measure accomplishment by each small task.
I'm sure you have a similar product as what we have here in America called rust converter. It's a chemical process that converts the rust into a thick black coating
Hi Ben. Yes indeed, the development of rust converters wasn't unnoticed by people here in Europe 😂 At the point the video was filmed we were already so tiered that it wasn't possible for us to make reasonable decisions. It's kind of we forgot about putting rust converter on. But with steel ships it's a constant experiment and now 6 months later the hull is still rust free even without the rust converter.
When I clean up rusted metal I always use a 5 in side grinder with a real good wire wheel and in just a short time I can clean up several feet of metal surface and it's ready to weld paint whatever you want or need to do. So you might look into it. It really works great.
If you can obtain a Bristle Blaster it's the best machine for removing rust and pain, used commercially in the oil and gas and shipping industry.
In the Submarine Biz they call that "Pickup Welding", and I've done my share of that working on over 25 Subs of 3 different classes...I always preferred the Needlegun myself for cleaning, but that's just me I guess...
After working in the San Francisco, Oakland and Bremerton ship yards for over forty years.....all I can say is.....OMG!!!((
I bet that little Bosch drill gets pretty warm with all that work.. good reliable workhorse tool though.
Great job! I don’t think I would have the strength of character to push through
Have you heard of a Air Needle Scaler, it would an excellent tool to add to your Air Chisel arsenal.
She is going to be such a great ship.
🌬🌊⛵
Thank you! Yes we do own a Needle Scaler. But we mostly wanted to test the hull and make sure that there are no holes. Getting rid of buckets of rust was a nice side effect!
I really like the metal interior with the round shapes and the rivets. I would not coat the walls on the inside and only paint with epoxy paint. It may not be possible because the insulation is then not good.
It does look great! But your assumption is correct it's necessary to insulate the hull for living also to protect the from condensation. But since we're rebuilding Flying Coneys original wooden deck maybe we can have the steel deck beams visible.
Love the crispy part :-) How much volume rust builds up on steel? … Ah, you answered it, 1cm of rust ist 1mm of Steel… so the next 700 years or so of sailor will have some fun… A client of mine just launched a brad new 100M Euro+ Royal Huisman large ship and for sure Flying Coney comes with more beauty and character and nobody will ever beat her crew!
There's that saying that 1mm steel is about 1cm of rust. We believe Flying Coney was built with 1cm steel plates and we do have 7-8mm left so that could be accurate!
That air chisel works 💪.
With all the rust removal on the inside, will you be applying rust conversion oil on the surface before the interior hull recoating?
The Tercoo seem to be a great tool !
respect for all your hard work 👌👍
greetsz fromfriesland...max
Your hard work will pay off you guys are doing a great job enjoy
Thank you! We try our best to get the boat sailing again ⛵️
Section the hull off into meter square sections and tackle them one at a time.
I think you guys are amazing, I’m sure it’s going to be a beautiful ship
Daniel, you should get the hull smoother by removing bumps and filling holes with epoxy prior to painting. You will be able gain some more speed and FC will look nicer.
It really doesn't matter for the speeds we can reach and the voids are only above the waterline. Below it's fine. We actually like the original look of the old steel. There's a barge next to us with a completely faired hull and my honest opinion is that it looks like plastic. My saying is, if you wan't to have a new boat buy a new boat.
Hi guys, a great episode again...thank you!
You might want to look into the history of three-masted bark Stedemaeght. I volunteered sailing her for several years a decade ago as a deckhand. In case of a 'down moment' just sit, google and enjoy this beautiful ship and you're good to go again 😂
I love the lines of your boat. I just subscribed,
You do not want the steel to be shiny. For good adhesion, you want the ruff finish the Tercoo or sandblasting provides. Also please use the tercoo disk at 3000 rpm. A battery drill is useless.
Great to see you are thinking and protecting your lungs. Dust can contain some very nasty things. Even a simple N95 disposable mask, if fitted well, can do the job for you.
Looking forward to following along.hi from Australia
Thanks for the video
It’s very interesting and respect to you both for your hard work to restore your fine ship.
gday from Australia i am loving this reconstruction of this build its a pity you cant sand blast the hull here is a good opportunity for one of them laser blasting companies to show us just how good their product is lol all the best on ya flying coney ..
We considered laser blasting but at that stage we were already running on autopilot. We've simply forgotten to brush rust converter on the waterline before painting. If you look for it you can see how difficult it is for Daniel to walk... Not the best circumstances to rent a machine that is 5k a week.
For the Tercoo, we really bought a complete second set of discs also one set for the big machine, so that's more than 500€ we spent out of our own pockets. That's how good they are 😉
You guys are awesome. Thank you .
Have you looked at industrial Liquid Lanolin based protection for steel interior? I think it can be applied without getting back to shiny surfaces.