Actually PO4 is not on the periodic table; P = Phosphorus, O = Oxygen and the 4 = 4 Oxygen atoms, which, together with P, makes the Phosphate. The battery type is pronounced Lithium Iron Phosphate.
You really nailed this build. Huge step forward from the last system. It's COOOOOOL how much good information there is on this stuff and how much easier it is to DIY a great system like this.
I recently bought most of the materials I need to build out my system (minus wires and bus bars which I will be grabbing this weekend). I am currently charging the batteries (8x 12V 100AH) individually before I put the system together. This way the batteries are properly charged/conditioned from the start. I went with a 48v 2500 watt inverter as I will wire the batteries in a 2p4s configuration and keep the wire size requirement small. The charge controller goes up to 100A in a 12, 24, 36 or 48V option. It can handle near 5,000 watts of solar input, but I am starting with 4x 100W panels so I have a proof of concept.
The chemical symbols from the periodic table for Lithium Iron Phosphate = Lithium: Li Iron: Fe Phosphorus: P Oxygen: O Phosphate is one Phosphorus atom bonded to 4 Oxygen atoms = PO4
Man why didn't you tell me this video dropped, I don't know why I don't get the notification anymore. Oooppps I meant to tell you I told you wrong the fuse goes on the negative side😮😮😮, Naw I'm just kidding, Heck you've turned into one heck of an electrician, That thing should do the trick and looks awesome. Great video Brother, God Bless You. I have an idea I need to run by you when you have time.
I think your shunt needs to be on the main negative from the battery.. the solar charger won't register on the shunt . You are only going to read the amps going to the inverter.
Really good explanation of a solar setup. From what you explained, you could actually expand on what you are able to use in your shed based off of your watt hour calculations. Key thing you said at the end. The HF inverter didn’t fit the application. Also, using LED lights draw than incandescents. Usually you should try to get the better item, especially if you plan on expanding/adding onto a system. Overall in the long run, you pay less. One good thing is now you have another inverter you can use. I know, use it on your boat! 😅😅😅 Saving this one!
These batteries have been around long enough now, and reviewed and discussed so often, that most people refer to them as simply LFP batteries now. For the record, LA is used for lead acid and AGM is used for Absorbed Glass Mat. It just makes talkin' about 'em easier.
I thought you were going to drop a new fishing video. lol But this is ok too, can you do one to show me how to build a shed for the inverter to live in. :)
Victron is good stuff , but you will pay for it . And yes your current draw drops as the voltage increases , which is why 48 volt systems are becoming the baseline for large systems ( 3kw+ of AC inverter ) . In fact , they make all in one units that combine the solar charge controller and inverter , into the same chassis , and , they also typically can take advantage of grid power to charge when the sun is busy getting in other people's eyes ... The small 2500 to 3500 watt units typically only do single phase , but , 5,000 watt units and higher usually have split phase 240 volt AC and you can run them in parallel for more capacity . They will also have all sorts of bells and whistles like monitoring and communication with your batteries and BMS system . Server rack batteries are pretty popular , but , they make more traditional form factor batteries in 48 volts as well . Also , if you are going to install 1000 watts or more of panel for a permanent structure , you are usually better off going with residential or commercial panels vs the smaller mobile panels . Just plan and build it carefully . The maximum rated voltage input on your charge controller is a hard limit . Exceeding it will let the magic smoke run amok . However , many controllers can be " over panelled " with respect to total wattage as long as that voltage limit is never exceeded . Be sure to allow for temperature variation as the colder the weather , the higher the voltage goes . If you are feeding your controller at or close to its maximum rated voltage in , say , August , you might have a very nasty surprise come February .
@joesummers9864 they say on their site that they are made for trolling motor too . So I'd say yes . The link i added to the description box has a better price than the website too FYI
Li is Lithium Fe is Iron P is Phosphorus O is oxygen, 4 shows 4 oxygen emelents to each Phosphorus giving the molecule Phosphate. Meaning phosphorous with multiple oxygens as opposed to a single Oxygen which would be Phosphite.
I live of-grid, so solar and generators are all there is. Spent about $7kAUD to have a system that is enough to run a 3 bedroom house with mod-cons. It's that or spend about $20k to get grid power to the front gate. Same with water, sewerage and phone line.
You should have just ran those two 24v batteries in series and did a 48v system. Uses way less amps and you can use smaller gauge cables . Plus if you add panels you can do 2 parallel sets of 3 or 4 in series. That way your only pushing 60-80 volts and 11 amps . 10 gauge will carry 11 amps over 100' no problemo . You're going what 20' ?
What you are going to realize is that no matter what battery you use, solar systems can charge and discharge a battery several times per day. Each charge / discharge = 1 Cycle. In the winter, the constant cloudiness, snow, and fog will keep your batteries from charging at all. Keep a generator handy, you will need it. Charge up your batteries and turn off the system until we start getting sun again.
This was off of a companies website LiFePO4 stands for Lithium (Li) Iron (Fe) Phosphate (PO4), and is the specific type of lithium battery that we build here at Dakota Lithium.
I'm not disagreeing with you and I'm not sponsored so I don't care either way . But it worked fine for 9 months . That doesn't mean it's good by any means . But it says it's Pure sine . They do have modified inverter too
If you are not running electronics then the Harbor Freight inverter is fine. We aren’t going full MIT full or NASA with it but they work. Hey! I like that you stayed with individual kit as I call it. Separate charge controller with separate battery charger etc… The all-in-one units are like going all in on the roulette wheel in Los Vegas. One piece dies and it dead. Besides you now can rig a backup system if necessary!
Periodic table: Li = Lithium / Fe = Iron / P04 is Phosphate 🤠👍
Actually PO4 is not on the periodic table; P = Phosphorus, O = Oxygen and the 4 = 4 Oxygen atoms, which, together with P, makes the Phosphate. The battery type is pronounced Lithium Iron Phosphate.
NERD! .... You actually beat me to it
@zefemanzano1651 🤘😂
I love how real and simple you are man. Great awesome job!
You really nailed this build. Huge step forward from the last system. It's COOOOOOL how much good information there is on this stuff and how much easier it is to DIY a great system like this.
I recently bought most of the materials I need to build out my system (minus wires and bus bars which I will be grabbing this weekend). I am currently charging the batteries (8x 12V 100AH) individually before I put the system together. This way the batteries are properly charged/conditioned from the start. I went with a 48v 2500 watt inverter as I will wire the batteries in a 2p4s configuration and keep the wire size requirement small. The charge controller goes up to 100A in a 12, 24, 36 or 48V option. It can handle near 5,000 watts of solar input, but I am starting with 4x 100W panels so I have a proof of concept.
Nice set up.
and You don't want your building burning down!
Merry Christmas + happy new year!!!
Lol . Merry Christmas 🎅
@@FishinNStuff and a Happy ''GoodYear''... [lol]
Thanks Chris I really did enjoy this video. I am planning to learn more about solar. I have a 24 by 25 building I would like to put 2 fans in.
👍👍That’s Nice upgrade right there . Thanks for sharing . Stay safe Sir and Keep’em coming .. Happy New Year
The chemical symbols from the periodic table for Lithium Iron Phosphate =
Lithium: Li
Iron: Fe
Phosphorus: P
Oxygen: O
Phosphate is one Phosphorus atom bonded to 4 Oxygen atoms = PO4
What are you a Rocket scientist haha 😄
Thanks man
@@FishinNStuff 🤓
@@FishinNStuff Fe Fi Fo Fum
You make me want to build a system. I think I will after the first of the year
Awesome video!! I'd love to see some wind power added to the mix!
Keep up the good work!!
I'd love to learn about wind power . I might look into that
Thanks buddy I feel ready to try😊 making a Solar System😂
Man why didn't you tell me this video dropped, I don't know why I don't get the notification anymore. Oooppps I meant to tell you I told you wrong the fuse goes on the negative side😮😮😮, Naw I'm just kidding, Heck you've turned into one heck of an electrician, That thing should do the trick and looks awesome. Great video Brother, God Bless You. I have an idea I need to run by you when you have time.
Thank you for your explanation hope you had a good Christmas
Bless yah
You too! Merry Christmas . And a prosperous, safe New Year
I did miss my fishing buddy on here with the jokes 😁
Thank you very much !
Happy Holidays!
Great setup, always a good vid with a lota laughs
Cheers from Oz
I think your shunt needs to be on the main negative from the battery.. the solar charger won't register on the shunt . You are only going to read the amps going to the inverter.
I noticed that after I hooked it up lol .
I made this same mistake
Another awesome video !
Really good explanation of a solar setup. From what you explained, you could actually expand on what you are able to use in your shed based off of your watt hour calculations. Key thing you said at the end. The HF inverter didn’t fit the application. Also, using LED lights draw than incandescents.
Usually you should try to get the better item, especially if you plan on expanding/adding onto a system. Overall in the long run, you pay less. One good thing is now you have another inverter you can use. I know, use it on your boat! 😅😅😅
Saving this one!
Well said
Love your videos.
Great video, been thinking about using solar for tractor shed.
merry Christmas and happy new year. love the vids and the projects, keep it up
I Drop My Hot Pocket: Life Goals LOL
Well done Sir
I love solar too! BTW .. I hope you had a Merry Christmas. And pray you and your family have a HAPPY NEW YEAR!!! ✝️🙏❤🇺🇸
Man, I just love your videos!
thanks for the information , thinking of doing something like this myself
Ur vids are alwayz informative. And hella funny!
Lets see watts next...lol...get it?
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year! Stay safe and healthy!
❤️the 💩out the dummy trap , the gift that keeps on saying f y for you. Plz keep it safe aaahhhh
These batteries have been around long enough now, and reviewed and discussed so often, that most people refer to them as simply LFP batteries now. For the record, LA is used for lead acid and AGM is used for Absorbed Glass Mat. It just makes talkin' about 'em easier.
I like to take some magnetic tape and put it in my terminal tackle trays so that if it tips over while I’m using it nothing falls out.
Nice video.
I was wondering where you were!
I thought you were going to drop a new fishing video. lol But this is ok too, can you do one to show me how to build a shed for the inverter to live in. :)
Maybe you can do a show about using those type of batteries on a fishing boat, trolling motor?👍👍
Cool
I'm getting the funny feeling that you don't want you building burning down lol.
🤣🤣🤣
Awesome
Hallo gutes 👍🤗 Video 👍
This is a great video. My only question is, can you turn battery's on their side?
YES!!
How did you connect your lights to the solar did you use romex wire? and will you have wall outlets to plug your future freezer to good video.
@@gregwilcox1696 i will . I just have them running to a drop cord right now
Li (lithium) Fe (iron) PO4 (phosphate… or phosphorous with 4 oxygen atoms)
If i see smoke commin out your buildin,I'll call the fire dept.
Lol
Victron is good stuff , but you will pay for it .
And yes your current draw drops as the voltage increases , which is why 48 volt systems are becoming the baseline for large systems ( 3kw+ of AC inverter ) .
In fact , they make all in one units that combine the solar charge controller and inverter , into the same chassis , and , they also typically can take advantage of grid power to charge when the sun is busy getting in other people's eyes ...
The small 2500 to 3500 watt units typically only do single phase , but , 5,000 watt units and higher usually have split phase 240 volt AC and you can run them in parallel for more capacity .
They will also have all sorts of bells and whistles like monitoring and communication with your batteries and BMS system .
Server rack batteries are pretty popular , but , they make more traditional form factor batteries in 48 volts as well .
Also , if you are going to install 1000 watts or more of panel for a permanent structure , you are usually better off going with residential or commercial panels vs the smaller mobile panels .
Just plan and build it carefully .
The maximum rated voltage input on your charge controller is a hard limit .
Exceeding it will let the magic smoke run amok .
However , many controllers can be " over panelled " with respect to total wattage as long as that voltage limit is never exceeded .
Be sure to allow for temperature variation as the colder the weather , the higher the voltage goes .
If you are feeding your controller at or close to its maximum rated voltage in , say , August , you might have a very nasty surprise come February .
👍🏼
Same thing happened ta me when I started playin with girls when I was a teenager.
Lol
Could you use those type of batteries for other applications say for a small jon boat or are they just best for solar applications
@joesummers9864 they say on their site that they are made for trolling motor too . So I'd say yes . The link i added to the description box has a better price than the website too FYI
Li is Lithium
Fe is Iron
P is Phosphorus
O is oxygen, 4 shows 4 oxygen emelents to each Phosphorus giving the molecule Phosphate. Meaning phosphorous with multiple oxygens as opposed to a single Oxygen which would be Phosphite.
Solar is like growing your own food- the most expensive food you’ll ever eat. But if it is all you have someday. It will be priceless.
I live of-grid, so solar and generators are all there is. Spent about $7kAUD to have a system that is enough to run a 3 bedroom house with mod-cons. It's that or spend about $20k to get grid power to the front gate. Same with water, sewerage and phone line.
lololol
Why not 12volt lights ? no need for converter love your video!!!
@@winnieraygo6994 because I a DC freezer is outrageous . It's fit the freezer
You should have just ran those two 24v batteries in series and did a 48v system. Uses way less amps and you can use smaller gauge cables . Plus if you add panels you can do 2 parallel sets of 3 or 4 in series. That way your only pushing 60-80 volts and 11 amps . 10 gauge will carry 11 amps over 100' no problemo . You're going what 20' ?
@ebhsports6251 i thought about that . After I already bought the 24v inverter
I just wish you would upload more 😂
Ima try to this year
But I'll tell you just the Editing take 2 too 3 days normally . Not including filming . I really appreciate you watching
That there is whatcha call ousum
Li is lithium, Fe Is iron Po4 is phosphate.
That's the phosphate ion
Li lithium
Fe Iron
PO4 Phosphate
Should have asked Cranky how to pronounce OKMO.. Lost opportunity to learn. LOL
🤣
What you are going to realize is that no matter what battery you use, solar systems can charge and discharge a battery several times per day.
Each charge / discharge = 1 Cycle.
In the winter, the constant cloudiness, snow, and fog will keep your batteries from charging at all.
Keep a generator handy, you will need it.
Charge up your batteries and turn off the system until we start getting sun again.
Your right . I already found that out during the hurricane this year
Li - Lithium
Fe - Iron
From the atomic chart
We in the Ham Radio community call them Life Po 4 batteries. Making the PO sound like "Poe" ALSO: Thumbs down for no Lure joke segment!!! 🤣😅😂
Li = lithium
Fe = iron
Po = phosphorus
4 is probably the 4th version?
Well i be dang lol
Thank you very much
PO4 = phosphate ion
This was off of a companies website
LiFePO4 stands for Lithium (Li) Iron (Fe) Phosphate (PO4), and is the specific type of lithium battery that we build here at Dakota Lithium.
@weoff507 yea but that isn't what chemists say
Great video, I love all of your vids. Super informative, What shunt did you use?
500A Shunt Battery Monitor there's a link fur everything i used in the description box
Lithium is li iron is fe and phosphate is po4 but noone expects you to be a specialist in minerals...we watch u for the dop3 ideas or atleast i do
i had no idea that H.F. sold burgers ?
Shunts, inverters, Lithium phosphate... I don't know? I'm just a bit cornfused... know what I'm sayin? I DO know fishin though. Wanna go?
Me too lol
You proving you don’t go solar to save money.
👍👏💪🤣🤣
It's all Greek to me
These harbor freight inverters are junk. Their modifed sine wave
Most things at HF are shite. Most.
I'm not disagreeing with you and I'm not sponsored so I don't care either way . But it worked fine for 9 months . That doesn't mean it's good by any means . But it says it's Pure sine . They do have modified inverter too
@FishinNStuff well guess they do have both. All the model I saw were modifed sine wave
If you are not running electronics then the Harbor Freight inverter is fine. We aren’t going full MIT full or NASA with it but they work. Hey! I like that you stayed with individual kit as I call it. Separate charge controller with separate battery charger etc… The all-in-one units are like going all in on the roulette wheel in Los Vegas. One piece dies and it dead. Besides you now can rig a backup system if necessary!
@InvisibleCitizen modern refrigerators I wouldn't run on modified sine wave but there is other thing s you could run
Doowhutt??
Most batteries last 10 years look at the one in your smoke detector
Li - lithium Fe - iron Po4 - phosphate