The History Of the Don Flamenco 1 World Record

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  • Опубліковано 12 лип 2023
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  • @Mavs6666
    @Mavs6666 11 місяців тому +37

    Sinister’s reaction to this discovery never gets old. This game is hard with modern strats, crazy to think that those guys were landing frame perfect punches on Don just for the opportunity to get railed by hippo RNG

  • @TheCheezler
    @TheCheezler 11 місяців тому +16

    I thought you skipped him, glad to see this.

  • @nefigah
    @nefigah 11 місяців тому +18

    I'm glad you brought up the left-right infinite thing. Somehow, as a young kid in the late 80s/early 90s I knew about that "trick" on Don 1. That was long before we had internet access so I'm not sure how. Some kid must have figured it out (or had a strategy guide, if there was one for MTPO?) and passed along the info I guess

    • @decorativewingdings
      @decorativewingdings 11 місяців тому +1

      Wait, that's a trick?

    • @linhero797
      @linhero797 11 місяців тому +2

      Honestly. The way the game controls. It feels great going left to right over and over and over again. And the game does a great job at telling you whenbyou keep punching due to it's amazing spritework.
      It was likely known about very early on after the games release since it's a really early game fight and the strategy relies in something natural for the player to do.

    • @kruks
      @kruks 11 місяців тому +4

      ​@@linhero797 - I was going to say the same thing. It's something that's natural to try and stringing punches until they counter is pretty normal, so it didn't take much to discover that we could do it until knockdown.

    • @linhero797
      @linhero797 11 місяців тому +1

      @@kruks What probably took some time, or Nintendo Power was Don's Rematch fight. Much, MUCH, later into the game and a pattern that needs to be figured out.

    • @TotalDramaHarold
      @TotalDramaHarold 11 місяців тому +2

      @@linhero797The left left right combo, right?

  • @NigelMelanisticSmith
    @NigelMelanisticSmith 11 місяців тому +2

    6:00 love the pause on the cursed face lol

  • @drengnikrafe
    @drengnikrafe 11 місяців тому +7

    The existence of the clock stop glitch and it being allowed in runs by illegitimate authority is wild to me. I find myself with a number of questions about it. Are phases dictated by the clock? If you somehow activated a clock stop against Tyson, would he never stop throwing uppercuts at the start of the fight?
    That said, I'm very glad it was rejected early. The fight between RTA and IGT would have been a nasty one if clock stop were the standard.

    • @Papamanual
      @Papamanual  11 місяців тому +6

      In MTPO speedrunning, a phase is said to end when an opponent gets knocked down... So most fights only have 3 phases (Glass Joe has1 phase, King Hippo has 1, Don 1 has 2 etc)... If you could clockstop on Tyson, before 1:30, then yes, he would continue to throw uppercuts.
      Clockstop on Tyson seems to be impossible though as you cannot get rapid punches on him. Clockstop is only possible on Glass Joe, Don 1, Soda, Don 2, Macho and Honda 2 (he has a very unique way, but to do it is always slower than the speedrun time).

    • @drengnikrafe
      @drengnikrafe 11 місяців тому +1

      @@Papamanual Fascinating! Thank you for filling me in on the things I didn't even know I didn't know. It never ceases to astound how many tiny secrets hide in this old gem.

  • @Football__LM10
    @Football__LM10 11 місяців тому +5

    I love these videos, good job !

  • @N12015
    @N12015 11 місяців тому +4

    10:01 If we don't know, let's say it was Matt Turk. You know, because of traditions.

  • @RagdollFanANoahMouseyProductio
    @RagdollFanANoahMouseyProductio 11 місяців тому +3

    If you don't have full health and the clock isn't less than one minute when you knock Don down for the first time, he'll get up with a larger refill. And if you don't have full health and the clock isn't less than one minute when you knock him down for the second time, he'll get up instead of staying down.

  • @funwithoutpants
    @funwithoutpants 11 місяців тому

    I love your breakdowns, man. 💚

  • @GrannySingaporePVP
    @GrannySingaporePVP 11 місяців тому

    Been waiting for this one for a while now! So excited!

  • @stitchfinger7678
    @stitchfinger7678 11 місяців тому

    I only found you recently but I'm super glad I did
    You make really quality content

  • @berdlyistrans
    @berdlyistrans 11 місяців тому +2

    when i heard zallards name i cheered

  • @ryanmahon2956
    @ryanmahon2956 11 місяців тому

    Really enjoy your channel!

  • @jdurg
    @jdurg 11 місяців тому +2

    Great job with the deep dive into a fight that not much attention is really paid to. As always, a great video from a great video maker.

  • @colwellalec
    @colwellalec 11 місяців тому

    Always nice getting these individual level breakdowns from someone as knowledgeable as Pap. Also always just been crazy to me just how deep this game actually is, much more than it seems on the surface with all the conditions for health refills, 10 count knockouts, etc. But yeah great video as always, looking forward to future vids

  • @rewandemontay
    @rewandemontay 11 місяців тому

    Awesome video as always!

  • @suprmanjim
    @suprmanjim 11 місяців тому

    Good job for 10K subscribers

  • @twinstarMD
    @twinstarMD 11 місяців тому

    Great vid, Pap!

  • @danielfazylov6960
    @danielfazylov6960 11 місяців тому +6

    Tbh i would like to know whats the lowest time you could get with the clock stop glitch

    • @Papamanual
      @Papamanual  11 місяців тому +5

      I think its 11.97 for Don 1

    • @danielfazylov6960
      @danielfazylov6960 11 місяців тому +2

      @Papamanual thanks I was also thinking what is it for the other fights?

  • @matthewodell9129
    @matthewodell9129 11 місяців тому +3

    Expecting another banger. Please take this comment, oh Algorithm Gods.

  • @sircrashtonii9718
    @sircrashtonii9718 11 місяців тому +1

    low number good

  • @SmugLookingBarrel
    @SmugLookingBarrel 11 місяців тому +2

    I can't wait for the Don 2 video, which I imagine will have a rather different history than this one, considering you just casually dropped "after grinding this fight for three to four hours nearly every single day for three years straight" in the video about the TAS times like that's a normal thing you can just say.

  • @decorativewingdings
    @decorativewingdings 11 місяців тому +3

    I didn't like this guy, so i always used to call him Donkey Flamingo

  • @troyheymanwhatsup2996
    @troyheymanwhatsup2996 11 місяців тому

  • @franinja2000
    @franinja2000 11 місяців тому +2

    I would also prefer a big mac

  • @burgerflipper6969
    @burgerflipper6969 11 місяців тому

    Why is this il not removed from src like glass joe? They both have tons of times submitted and are easy to achieve as well im just curious

    • @Papamanual
      @Papamanual  11 місяців тому +2

      While still 'pretty easy' its still harder than Glass Joe and moderator have decided that its worth keeping a leaderboard for it still.

    • @DevilTheIdiot
      @DevilTheIdiot 10 місяців тому

      #BringBackGlassJoe

  • @mr-oso-8055
    @mr-oso-8055 10 місяців тому

    thats strange... isnt twin galaxies the one that will not allow any glitches. but, it allowed the clock stop?

    • @Papamanual
      @Papamanual  10 місяців тому +2

      Exactly, they are extremely inconsistent... And them saying it can be activated on accident is ridiculous. If you know how it works, its easily avoided.

  • @gamingboi1158
    @gamingboi1158 11 місяців тому

    i landed that frame perfect a few times

  • @rockettbennett
    @rockettbennett 11 місяців тому +2

    :)

  • @ronjonald660
    @ronjonald660 11 місяців тому +2

    Last.

  • @Randomuploads102-yp5tj
    @Randomuploads102-yp5tj 4 місяці тому

    50th comment

  • @gotoyourhometv
    @gotoyourhometv 11 місяців тому +1

    First

  • @arc-sd8sk
    @arc-sd8sk 11 місяців тому +1

    f*fth

  • @DevilTheIdiot
    @DevilTheIdiot 10 місяців тому +1

    tbh i never heard a reason why clock stop glitch isn't allowed most games allow glitches in speedrunning why not here?

    • @Papamanual
      @Papamanual  10 місяців тому +1

      Its not like it's "Not Allowed", the community just doesnt care about such records. You are free to run categories that involve clock-stop... you just arent gonna have any competition.
      As for why there is currently no clockstop glitch runners... well it reduces the luck and skill needed in the fights where it can be applied, so no one bothers.