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What Could Have Been: Jodorowsky's Dune
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- Опубліковано 15 сер 2024
- Taking a look at Alejandro Jodorowsky's failed, yet bold attempt at adapting Dune in the 1970s.
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0:00 Intro
0:22 Alejandro Jodorowsky
1:11 Dune Bible
1:59 Cosmic Tracking Shot
2:59 Paul Atreides’ Conception
3:48 Defecating Harkonnen Army
4:35 Salvador Dali
5:39 The Baron
6:03 The Ending
7:00 Concept Designers
7:33 Visual Effects
8:28 What Went Wrong?
9:54 Ridley Scott
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Only Alejandro Jodorowsky could take Dune, a book that is already pretty weird and say, "Yeah but I think it should also be a movie within a movie projected from the head of a crucified robot for an audience of evolved sentient dogs."
*Sapient. They're already sentient as they are now.
I read this before i started the video and i deadass thought u were trolling at first 💀
Jodorowsky thought dune would be a bridge for his surrealistic concepts with the excuse of an adaptation.
Jodorowsky's Dune is probably a movie that would have been better served as an animated movie over live action. Not just because of budget but because of its complexity and scope.
Yeah, that level of surrealism is better suited in Animation.
That would have been insane. 😄
It would have looked like someone had smoked a bong of Fruit Loops and washed it down with a bottle of floor wax.
That could have worked. Heavy Metal (1981) made 20 million on a 9 million budget. All those people he wanted would have cost less too.
Or stop motion
Well said, I’ve felt that many adaptations lately have just been adapted to the wrong medium.
This version would've been so bonkers that Herbert's warning about falling for demagogues and messiahs would get lost, buried underneath all the surrealism and plot changes.
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Also the fact that the Jodorowsky’s movie seems to forgo the whole false prophet thing in favor of making Paul the actual Messiah.
But at least it would've been entertaining and enjoyable and thought-provoking instead of the giant turd burgers that we got from DV
@@Cleveland_Rockslol you're in the minority on that opinion pal
@@brianbadonde9251 Hey, whatever crap floats your boat. But it is crap. And that's just a fact.
David Lynch's *"DUNE Messiah"* deserves a future video for "What Could Have Been".
Except, the fellow with absolutely no interest in such a project would be Lynch himself.
There’s something poetic about Paul dying in the script then living on through others, like how this movie was killed but it’s ideas would inspire countless movies from Terminator, to Star Wars, to Indiana Jones, and more.
That’s a great point!
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@@jaysonraphaelmurdock88128 people liking an emoji reply, society is cooked
It's crazy how this movie was never made but it still had a large influence on many other films
Its ripple effect is crazy.
@@Bulletsandblockbusters the ripple causes Ripley to create the entire alien franchise. Which also inspired the Riddick movies
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The original visions of *"ALIEN III"* would make a great
"What Could've Been" episode, from William Gibson's Cold War story that includes a new method for Xenomorphs to multiply -
via a virus that turn humans into an Alien - all the way to Vincent Ward's monk-populated wooden planet.
Supposedly that ripple was outright plagiarism. As every studio was sent the Dune Bible a lot of people got to see it. And that it supposedly was ripped off by Star Wars, Alien, even Lynch's Dune. A simular thing happened with a script by legendary Indian film-maker Sanjit Ray. Called The Alien, it circulated Hollywood in the 70's looking for funding. It was never picked up but was seen by a lot of people. A few years later Steven Spielberg started developing ideas for E.T. and well it contains a lot of elements from The Alien. Even John Hammond from Jurassic Park, Richard Attenborough would claim this, as would Spielberg's friend and collaborator, Martin Scorsese. Spielberg's defence was that he was high school when the script was circulating, but this has been proved to be incorrect and he was working in Hollywood at the time.
@@davidjames579Can't really say Alien ripped off Jodorowsky's Dune since it was largely made by the same people.
It seems this movie was best served as a concept for other things rather than an actual production, kind of like a concept car that is a test bed of innovative ideas, looking spectacular but practically not possible.
Well said
Jessica continuing Paul's sentence would've easily made cinematic history
Having seen the Jodorowsky’s Dune documentary, it would have been a really insane, long, and expensive movie if made. It would have been interesting to see, but I don’t know if it would have been good
I agree.
It would have made a legit 5 dollars at the box office
Honestly it would have flown over everyone's head. He doesn't make subtle films. He's like Stanley Kubrick... on crack.
It would never have been made, It COULDN'T ever have been made, from the CGI workload to the 14hr run time it wasn't possible then or now
@@ElenasDad the point of art isnt profit. jodo wouldnt make movies and theyd all suck.
Orson Welles as Baron Harkonnen would of been fun
It's crazy that Jodorowsky, even in his failure of not getting something great to the big screen, inspired Ridley Scott to create *fucking Alien,* one of the best Sci-Fi Horror movies to ever be made.
It's amazing to me how many "visionaries" have adapted or sought to adapt Dune and completely missed the points Frank Herbert was trying to make by writing the chronicles in the first place.
And what were the points?
@@ElTamex07 don't trust charismatic leaders
@@lamecasuelas2 Like Ronald Reagan or Barrack Obama
@@ElTamex07 or Jodorowsky himself
@@lamecasuelas2 Jodorowsky was a charismatic leader?
“Why it was never made” - Common sense and the sad fact that film budgets are paid for in money, not dreams.
Jodorowsky's vision of what his Dune movie could've been is so wild and out there. But it would've definitely upset the Dune fans.
If he changed the name and all references to Dune, then it would've been a different story. Though budget of this movie would've made it impossible to create.
Even if it was a copy cat of Dune, it would have been a much better project since everyone would be going into the wacky project with a fresh set of eyes
for years i was super sad we never got this movie, but ever since Villeneuve's version came out, i'm good 😅
I've never understood people's fascination with this version of Dune which would have been an unmitigated disaster and tarnished Dune forever. Whenever Dune would be brought up people would giggle and roll their eyes thinking of Jodorowsky's version. Denis' version OTH has open a whole new Dune world to a ton of new fans.
Finally, I was about to say that someone was about three years late to the exaggeration and misrepresentation of AJs dune.
Absolutely, Jodorovskys was never about adapting the novel to the screen but about him superimposing his own narrative over it, and this hubris ultimately caused the project to fail as spectacularly as it did. The fact that he became so butthurt after losing funding that he stopped making movies for decades and instead taking credit for influencing Star Wars and Alien by association to his project is just as hilarious as it is sad.
It's all the screwed up Jodo fans who do too many drugs who think his version would be a great idea. It would be the ultimate movie to go and see on LSD and then walk out feeling like they got something really deep out of it when all they got was pretty special effects, cool music and weirdities.
Thank you
@@stefungi but he aint wrong. without him alien wouldnt exist. fact.
“what is the goal of the life? It’s to create yourself a soul”.
An army of defecating Harkonen: Genius!
haha
I love the idea of Harkonen's soldiers all being able to poo at the same time and on command! And doing it to Leto's Palace seems pointless if the Harkonens are conquering it, to presumably use it 😅
Baron: dedicating harkonnens. Genius! You're literally pooping on them!
I’d love a video on the original plans for The Truman Show. Apparently director Peter Weir wanted cameras installed in all theaters to show the audience in the movie, he had some wild ideas.
I’m so happy I’m living in a timeline where Villeneuve’s Dune got made instead of Jodorowsky’s.
did you know that Dali designed the wrapper for the famed Chuppa Chup lollipop.
Yes!
I've watched the 2014 documentary, Jodorowsky's DUNE, 10 times, and thought to myself, "Now, I Really want to see this version happen!"
I want Jodorowsky's Dune Bible to be published to the general public
They should make animated movie or a comic book based on this.
Jagger, Dali, Giger, and Welles name a weirder combination!
"Paul..falls heavily..dead!"
And music by Pink Floyd!
thanks for the more abridged version of what happeend to this movie
i saw the documentary, was a lot
loved the visuals and i was kind of curious about seeing that version as a novelty
but not sure if it would've been something i would've liked with all the nudity and the altered ending
but glad all the stuff that came from it got recycled to other sci-fi features
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Christopher , bro , let her sleep. She was busy with me last night
@@remuslazar2033No worries. I took my dog out last night for a walk on the beach
This like Caligula but for Sci-fi and we all know how that movie turned out
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I think this version of dune would be perfect as a super weird super surrealist animated film.
Another marvelous video! You had me at hello with the name Jodorowsky.
Honestly the more i find out about this dune the more im glad it wasnt made
Brilliantly put together!
I read that Jodorowsky wanted Mick Jagger for Feyd Rautha. Apparently in any version, Feyd needs rockstar energy.
I think this version of DUNE is likely the modern variation of Burton's Superman LIVES. And we all know how bat-shit crazy that would be. 😵💫
Here's a "what could have been suggestion" Gore Verbinski's Bioshock!
In terms of score and visuals this would have changed the landscape of movies forever! Everything that makes up the modern blockbuster would be different if this movie was made!
The wildest part to me is they would've casted Dali to play the emperor, second all his wacky requests, including the absurd amount of money for only an hour out of 14 of screen time, only for all this to fall apart because Dali said he liked the Spanish dictator.
Although he never got studio approval, what could’ve been George Lucas’s Flash Gordon could be very interesting as that was the movie Lucas wanted to make before turning to create Star Wars
Imagine training your son martial arts 6 hours a day to prepare for a role in a movie that you want to direct only for the project failed. On the other hand, at least his son knows how to protect himself, I guess.
Ya, it’s truly insane
now I want a Dune Cartoon with Maurice Lamarche doing an impression of Welles when playing Baron Harkonnen.
have you ever considered making a video on all the attempts to make a true Home Alone 3 with Macaulay Culkin? that would be cool
Yes, would love to. Just need info on the third one. Do you have any sources for the plot?
@@Bulletsandblockbusters In the 2005 dvd commentary for the first film Chris Columbus Says he pitched a film where kevin wants revenge on harry and marv only they've changed their ways. He also mentioned that Home Alone 2 & 3 were supposed to film back to back like is rumoured. I also heard stuff on IMDb that 3 was supposed to focus on a teenage kevin but mac had taken a break so Hughes rewrote the script to focus on suspiciously similar substitutes like it does. or a film on uncle frank leaving fuller home alone with the wet bandits going after him. But I'm not sure about those last 2. IMDb are great for actor statistics but I don't know where they get their trivia from so that last one's not sure
I also heard that columbus mentioned in 2015 that he had another idea which focused on the wet bandits attempting revenge on kevin by trying to murder his son here's the source for that one uproxx.com/movies/chris-columbus-pixels-gremlins-goonies-interview/
Thnx! If I can find a treatment based on this info I can make a video about it
After the success of the recent Home Alone Google ad starring Macauley Culkin I thought they might have considered doing a 3rd Mac Home Alone. Joe Pesci who's basically retired was in the other ad so I reckon he'd be game.
I would love to have seen this, just because of how bonkers it would've been!!
11:58 This Geiger sketch reminded me of the hybrid alien ‘child’ in Alien Resurrection - looks quite a bit like it
Jodorowsky is a true artist, but productions don’t understand art, they only understand money!!!
Frank Herbert was an artist, Jodoroski was looking to rape and defile his work
Unfortunately, movies cost money to make, they cost money to distribute, and they cost money to advertise and promote. Not all art forms are created in the same way.
This would have been 100% a Jodorowsky movie with just the paint job of calling it Dune, at least he got The Incal out of all of this.
Would have loved if this fever dream saw the light of day. Love trippy movies.
I admire Jodorowsky creativity and talent. The team he brought together for this project is legendary and the book they put together for the studios (to convince them to greenlight the movie) became something that inspired movies like Alien, Terminator, Blade Runner and many others. For that alone, I think I can say we are all very greatful. BUT... as a Dune reader, I say THANK GOD the movie never got made. Jodorowsky destroys the elements that make Dune what it is and the ending he created is so bonkers that make the David Lynch movie look like a masterpiece. To me, an adaptation doesn't have to be the exact copy of the book. Somethings don't translate so well in movie form and others have to be cut because of the movie's duration. But the adaptation HAS TO bring the soul of the original work. Jodorowski was never interested in that. He wanted to make HIS Dune, no matter what Frank Herbert had to say. That is a no no to me.
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Although I don't disagree with your statement if that were true for everyone we wouldn't have The Shining by Stanley Kubrick.
@@jaysonraphaelmurdock8812 In a way, I think you're right. Stephen King was mad about the movie because the father's slow descent into madness was cut. I just think Jodorowki's case was even worse. Herbert's book is about the dangers of trusting charismatic leaders. It was meant as a warning and it showed us that in the end, Paul is just a flawed man. Jodorowsky and David Lynch turned him into a God by the end and ruined everything.
I still think they could make a great animated film out of this.
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The animated film Heavy Metal kind of is, including art by Mobius and adult elements.
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What Could have Been: Grumpiest Old Men. I remember reading waaaay back when that it was going to feature a trip for the families to Italy, and just read it was cancelled due to Out to Sea and Odd Couple II underperforming. Then, of course, Lemmon and Matthau died. It would be interesting to know how far along it had been and what it really might have been about.
everyone says this is the greatest movie never made, and while the visual effects would have been revolutionary had he been able to pull them off, the more I hear about jodarowski's Dune, the more I'm convinced it really wouldn't have been a very good movie overall.
I think the real great movie that was never made would have been the Ridley Scott version. Scott was much more practical and It sounds like he would have built his film around joderowski's vision as a base but probably delivered something more coherent and true to the themes of the book, like he did with blade runner. that I think is the version I would have really liked to see
The Giedi Prime Colosseum scene had its source in HR Gigers concept. Villeneuve did a great job. It added so much to Dune Part2
In my opinion, the best option to direct Dune at that time would have been Stanley Kubrick. his style is very similar to villeneuve's
No offense to Villeneuve but he is only a student to Kubrick.
Stanley would have made this movie into a complete mind f**k.
If he just changes some things he could probably make his own movie without having to worry about the copyright
we dodged a bullet with this one
5:54 this is soooo JoJo's bizarre adventure like,70s was crazy
'..if you walk without rhythm, you won't attract the worms...' Fatboy Slim
Christopher Walken said he was unaware of the Dune quote in Weapon Of Choice when he signed on to Dune Part Two. 😮
What an insane undertaking this could have been, but i fully understand how it died.
I‘m really glad this clusterfuck of a project never ended up happening. The one pill that so many people are afraid to swallow is that Jodorovsky’s Dune would have been shit. Jodorovsky himself has no respect for the story, changing the most important aspects of the book for his own ego‘s sake (Quote: I was raping Dune!). He never even read the book before the production began. Most of the project was him hunting for talent, and then taking credit for the concepts that they ultimately came up with. The fact that he is still taking credits for ”influencing“ the whole industry with a project that failed due to his own economic mismanagement is a ridiculous and pathetic show of his egocentrism.
This movie not happening was the best thing for Dune, Jorodowski and Moebius.
Dune was left intact instead of getting a bonkers adaptation that fully ignored its basic concepts and ideas.
Jorodowski and Moebius could sit and reshuffle these ideas to create their own IP with the Incal graphic novels where they could go as crazy as they wanted and not care about budget or limitations. A lot of these ideas ended up on Incal and I think people have a better experience reading that, then getting frustrated trying to compare the Dune book and this film version.
Whatever jodorowsky thought for his adaptation of dune, it wouldn't be dune. The scene with 3000 extras defecating in the desert, Dali as the emperor, blood fertilizing Jessica... Glad Rampling went with Denis' version rather than the scatologic attempt.
There's time for artistic liberties and changing the entire story of a book to fit your personal ideas.
The most famous unmade movie of all time.
Of course, when Dune finally got a movie adaptation in the 1980s, it gave its director serious PTSD and wound up a flawed first attempt, leading to two further attempts at adapting Frank Herbert's story (A Sci-Fi Channel Miniseries in 2000 and a Two-Film behemoth by Denis Villeneuve in 2021/24) to truly get it right. Dune has had a weird history in film, hasn't it?
What do you make of Jodorowsky's comments about the recent Dune films, saying they're hollow since they're made by a big corporation and, ironically, too faithful to the books instead of having one distinct singular vision (like his).
I’d disagree. They’re made by a filmmaker who is adapting the books and trying to stay true to them. Jodo wanted to use the book as a jumping off point to tell his own story
@@Bulletsandblockbusters Agreed, he seemed almost bitter
Sure would have had some crazy visuals, though it's odd thinking about in relation to Star Wars. Amazing to think of what the legacy ended up influencing! The ships sound like they would have been pretty unbelievable designs.
Star Wars leaned away from this to try and be more plausible and lived in. Alien also followed that. Dino De Lauretiis's film of Flash Gordon is closer to the wild style of Jodorofsky's Dune. And Luc Besson's The Fifth Element and Valerian both have bold visuals closer to that.
This is an interesting idea for the seventies and if it did happen i imagine it would best win best picture and the moral of the story 14 hour films overuse the budget cancelling the film
What Could Have Been: Terry Gilliam or Paul Greengrass Watchmen or Guillermo Del Toros At the mountains of madness
Or Kubrick’s AI
Every interview I have seen with Jodorowski convinces me that he is depraved and the Incal sealed the deal.
I'd encourage everyone watching this video to read Dune or at the very least, watch the Dennis Villenue movies. Actually try to understand what the story of Dune is about, like its actual themes. Then watch this documentary in full.
Jodorowsky's Dune, the documentary, does not spell everything out to its audience. But if you pay attention to it and actually think, you'll understand what kind of man Jodorowsky really was and why his film was nerer made.
I think this movie never coming to fruition was probably the best-case scenario. I watched the documentary on the film's development and downfall, and good lord, it was traumatizing.
I'd love to have a copy of the storybook for the drawings
What could have been: Star Trek: The Motion Picture. Not so much a change in script, but a radically different production design was originally well under before it was cancelled in favor of the pd we see in the movie. They had what could have been called an avant-garde, almost psychedelic biomechanical design for V'ger.
Imagine how would Frank Herbert feel about his books adapted into an LSD trip...
Frank : what the fuck man
Great episode, I never even knew this existed, would've been very interesting, probably not good, but definitely weird.
wow when i heard of dune being remade i thought it was just a weird b movie, who'ed thunked it that there was so much more history behind it.
7:20 regardless of whether the finished film (live action or animated) would have been any good, the pre production is a hoot. Jodorowsky described typical science fiction spacecrafts as "flying refrigerators, cold boxes of imperial capitalism". Then you get to Villeneuve's *Dune* where the Atredies spacecraft look like giant refrigerators.
The film would have been confusing like his other films but visually stunning and beautifully surreal.
Next do Henry Selick darktown/ Monkeybone
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I love Sting! As a singer. Even a musician. Sometimes as an actor. However, the knife fight between him and Kyle MacLachlan is gotta be one of the worst on film!
Oh Mobious should not regret, Time Masters my favorite animation ❤
What Could Have Been: JJ Abrams’s Superman: Flyby
Thanks for the amazing video ❤
Original plans for Power Rangers reboot series or Dark Universe
Wow. Without this video, I never would've know this movie was gonna suck.
This would have been the ultimate Dune, Herbert's included
Everyone, Let's All go see the Magnificent DUNE: PART TWO again while it's still in theaters - to show more appreciation for Denis' genius and hard work (& the brilliance of the actors, cinematographer, movie score writer, costumers, sound technicians, etc), & to help ensure there is plenty of money for filmmakers to make DUNE: MESSIAH even more Magnificent still. We'd probably get to see MESSIAH sooner if we get PART TWO to a billion dollars, too. Let's Do This!
I just caught Jodo’s Dune on HBO last night and was laughing throughout. Jodo’s recollections about the process and the people involved were hilarious. Telling Pink Floyd to stop eating their hamburgers and listen to him because “this is the most important film in human history and you guys are eating hamburgers!” 😂
There is one other graphic novel aside from the Incal where a lot of his ideas for Dune were given a new story, La Caste des Méta-Barons or The Metabarons as it was published in America, mentioning it because is absolutely worth it if you like Dune or just sci-fi in general.
thanks 4 posting this intresting dokumentation, there is one by arte too, do you know others showing more pics of jodorowskys "Bible" ?
I agree with a sentiment I've heard before: the hypothetical idea of what could have been js probably better than any version that would have actually been made
as always another banger boss
Thnx! Appreciate it as always
Yeah it sucks we never got that. Dune was written buy a guy who took a bunch of psychedelics in the desert. What better of a person to adapt it than a guy who took a bunch of psychedelics in the desert in order to come up with, and sometimes literally on set of the movies that he made? And with Welles and Dali involved, no less. And Giger was attached, too, which is perfect because reading that book puts very Giger-esque images in my head that none of the movies have ever quite matched.
One thing you didn't mention is that Jodorowsky convinced Orson Wells to do the movie by promising him that he would hire the chef from his favorite restaurant to cook all his meals for him.
I feel like the biggest casualty of this not being made was the Pink Floyd soundtrack. That couldve been incredible.
Dune (1984). But it *was* directed by Ridley Scott. But this time Kenneth Branagh wins the Audition . And is cast as Paul Atreides. Rather then "Young Henry" from Fallout 🙂
“Crazy 1980’s Dune”
I love the idea of the visuals and concept, but I don't like how it deviates from Herbert's intent with the whole arc of Paul.
Essentially this movie led to Alien. Well done
Great stuff!
How about doing a video on what could have been Hairspray 2: White Lipstick.
There have been three screen adaptations of Dune: David Lynch, David Kappes (TV miniseries produced in Australia) and David Villeneuve.
Everyone forgets about the miniseries.
I didn’t forget about the TV series and it’s Denis, not David. Clearly you use the same spellchecker as I do. 😀
@@crhkrebs I have run across a lot of Dune fans who've never seen the Australian mini-series.
And I can't tell you if getting Villeneuve's first name wrong was the auto-correct or reading glasses. I may have got it wrong again for using weaker reading glasses. Everything is a tad bit blurry right now.
Thank you for responding to my comment!
What a cluster f@ck this would’ve been, lol!! The sheer amount of ego on set would’ve been more than enough to bring this down.