Zac Randazzo they aren’t flawless that’s why there needs to be a balance of human machine interaction and cross check which is what has made flying so safe
The comments here must come from totally technical not affine persons. How the heck shall the plane get the centerlane? Mus be only gps landing. No camera to look out for the center lane. But they market it as if there are a thousand cams... and a blonde with a beer waiting just for you
I was wondering that myself, I thought it must be the GPS tolerance but it was right of centre line on the synthetic vision screen also so that means the system knew exactly where it was, right of centre lol . . .
I was thinking the same thing. If there is smoke in the cabin, you've got a serious problem. I hope there is a "repeat" button on the instruction player.
@@bob456fk6 I agree but on the flip side of that, any pilot worth his salt is gonna brief everybody on what to do in the event of emergency, including how to operate the doors. Valid point, though.
There used to be an old saying in aviation: "someday, there will only be a pilot and a dog in the cockpit. The pilot to watch the instruments, and the dog to bite the pilot if he tries to touch anything."
Hector Rios 8, yes, but those systems cost many hundreds of thousands/millions of dollars and wouldn’t even fit in a small ga airplane. We also landed on the moon 50+ years ago.
@@hectorrios2577 yeah but the safe return system if for private aviators, those big proper systems airliners use are handled by cabin crew or maybe a pilot. Not by passengers.
I had autoland in my Cessna 172 XP back in 1979 when I started my training. I took my hands off of the controls, sat back, and watched my instructor land the plane. Wallah....AUTOLAND!
Lot less traffic to worry about up there ; the chance of a kid running on front of your plane chasing its soccer ball is really small. In a car its a much bigger issue.
@Richard Ren that is just statistics; once there are "enough" of these systems in use sooner or later there will be a set of circumstances its not programmed for and it will crash. Both on the road and in the air.
@Richard Ren That is already implemented; The reason you are told NOT move the controls is that when you do it disables the autopilot and switches to manual control. No need to push a button just fly the plane and press the auto-land button again if you want the system to land for you again.
This technology is simply amazing to me. Of course, back when I got into aviation, things like NDB approaches, DF Steers and manual E6B flight computers were the norm. I still remember how amazed I was when they upgraded the old coffee grinder(manual tune) radios in the aircraft and soon after, I got to use my first RNAV unit. In fact, in later years(80's) when the company installed the Apollo 604 Loran in my aircraft, that was like Star Trek tech. Yes, I'm old...lol.
Les B the funny thing is that it’s relatively simple math, but we needed several different sectors of technology to get to a certain point before it was viable.
My grandfather flew from at 16 (1953) until his 60s and in addition to flying loved computers. He has passed now but every time I see technology like this I think about how totally amazed he would be at the things that are possible in GA.
@@Mrcaffinebean I'm retired now and fly a Super Cub for fun, which only has minimal avionics. However, I was given a Garmin D2 Delta PX aviators watch recently as a gift. It will provide navigational info, altitude alerting, Nexrad radar, pulse ox sensing, automatic flight logging, fitness tracking, mobile music, contact-less payments, etc., etc.. I've also heard a rumor that it might even give you the current time! It's sorta unsettling to know that when I fly my Cub, the watch on my wrist is light years more technologically advanced than my entire airplane.
Les, you and I are of the same vintage my friend, in Navy Flight School in Pensacola I was taught, and flew, ADF approaches. Now a days when I tell current Pilots they just stare at me and then laugh.
I heard this aircraft automatically broadcasting on 121.5 the other day flying to Dallas. Took the rest of us by surprise and thought it was an actual emergency.
You should check out the NASA PCA... Almost everything in aicraft automation has already been done in some way or the other.. (hell we are landing 30 meter tubes from the edge of space with a single vectoring engine) These are the exact reasons why autonomous drones that fly people are coming, soon.
that would definitely be a nice feature to have especially the older folks that like flying with their families. Gives the piece of mind that if something unexpected happens to you, your family can still make it home.
It's on the garmin autoland configuration video. It says the tail number, pilot incapacitation, the destination airport, and time before landing. My guess is it keeps rebroadcasting the message at certain intervals. I'd like to know what happens once the airplane is on the ground at an unmonitered/untowered Airport.
They should add more audio announcement; people forced to use this when the pilot becomes unresponsive will panic. Announcing what is happening like the moving trim wheels (and tell them not to touch them) might assist calming them building confidence in the system
@@darthscion trim wheels do move themselves a normal autopilot. In most general aviation autopilot systems, the elevator control is purely with the trim servo
I have a hunch Cirrus will be the first to make this standard. Seems like something they would do and market to their customers who would appreciate it and not be offended by it.
Awesome. Did I hear correctly that the system can detect hypoxia and start the emergency decent all the way to full stop and shut down? What an excellent piece of equipment. I think it will also be useful in other situations beyond an incopacitated pilot. I am thinking vfr caught on top or otherwise inadvertently in imc. This will save lives. Wow! Great job Garmin. I think we will see a bunch of auto throttle and brake servo STCs in the near future to make the retrofits possible.
@@GabeClendenning hope the time limit is altitude dependent; 10 sec is a long time flying towards terrain. (actually does it do terrain avoidance? with its database and location awareness that should be possible)
Not really... All they did was put systems that were there two decades ago together. Nothing novel about it IMO. Just had to invest the money, which should be awarded with something more appropriate for private companies.
@@rkan2 the interaction with the outside world is the novel part. But agree not on "Nobel price" level. Collier trophy on the other hand is much more appropriate since this technology improvement will contribute to saving lives.
The aircraft declares an emergency automatically and squawks 7700, plus it will shut off in the middle of the runway. Both FAA and Airport are coming for you if it was not justified
The fact that you have an emergency and that "EMERGENCY AUTOLAND HAS BEEN ACTIVATED" animation is just so straight out of a start up web company that you think you've seen some advertisement wondering where the close button is
That's the first time i actually see successful work on automatics, *and* their presentation is not "in your face" or "this should be enforced to every plane NOW!". I'm impressed.
I'd like to know what happens when the system can't find a suitable runway for whatever reason. (Middle of nowhere, runways too short, or too low) Does it say unable and turn off/not activate in the first place?
Most important thing said here was that it’s easy for regulators to say no. Lawyers and insurers, too. If they are getting those groups to say yes for a change, things might really improve.
Think of the situations this is intended for, e.g. pilot heart attack. Unless there is a co-pilot they almost always end in fatal crashes. Regulators and Insurers would always prefer something that at least attempts to get them down safely on a runway with emergency services standing by. Otherwise this is what normally happens: www.foxnews.com/us/iowa-plane-crash-kills-four-after-pilot-suffers-heart-attack-police-say
As a former Navy Fighter Pilot… Please don’t bring up that movie. At least don’t think that’s what Naval Aviation is really like, I could point out 100 mistakes.
A useful feature in case of erratic manual control would be for the system to announce that it will automatically engage if not cancelled due to suspected pilot incompacitation.
I assumed (wrongly) that this system would require an ILS runway. The fact that it can perform this autoland on a GPS L+V approach is amazing - a real game changer. Well done Garmin. This is undoubtedly the future of pilot incapacitation safety.
Well, to be fair, Garmin have been a GPS company a lot longer than they've been doing aircraft systems. So their experience with GPS means they know very precisely what it can and can't do.
GPS altitude is accurate to 18 ft so You don't really need it... Garmin avionics allow you to set up a GPS approach and put a simulated ILS on your HSI
I really don’t get this nonsense thing, no one is going to be pushing anything when their incapacitated, anyone in the back of the plane will be clueless as to what buttons to push when the fat guy up front is having a heart attack so what’s the point.
@@MarekMarciniak on the vision jet, its a giant red button on the center of the ceiling, that says emergency auto land. In that case, even if you don't give a briefing all of the passengers will see it right away, and know what to press in case you croak at the controls.
Awesome System....it is so userfriendly, even for very stressed non flying people in an emergency. Great work Garmin. I wish all my electronic devices are as userfriendly and helpful...
Sooo....you take off,gain altitude,push button for emergency landing,pop up canopy, jump off using parachute and your aircraft is waiting for you at airport 😂
I assume the communication with ATC would be one-sided, therefore the system would declare an emergency right away? How are readbacks/blocked messages handled? Would love to hear some sample audio.
I'm assuming it listens for a clear channel before transmitting, declares a mayday and states this is an automated message with an incapacitated pilot.
I would also assume that it waits for an opportunity to transmit. But even if not, they mentioned in the video that the message gets repeated every couple minutes, so it would get across eventually.
If you use some intelligence. I will use mine for you. Pilot heart attack switches on auto land or auto land activates itself. Mayday mayday mayday, this is the garmin auto land system, we are declaring an emergency. Air traffic controller, to all traffic we have a mayday, please hold your approach until may day is clear.
How does the system know about tempoary airport closures? E.g. runway closed, workmen on the runway etc..? Can ATC deny or manipulate the Garmin’s airport/runway choice?
@@boosti_alex1428 I would argue that pilotless planes are an easier proposition than driverless cars on several levels. The sensor feeds for aircraft and wiggle room on a runway (vs a narrow road with oncoming traffic) seem an easier task.
@@bigred5287 Very true. I guess I should be more specific...At a moments notice a runway can be shut down. Downed aircraft, animals on the runway, severe icing any number of reasons. I used to run a flight school's line service and our one concrete runway would shut down for various reasons quite randomly. I'm very aware of all the factors behind the technology as it is directly in line with what I do for a living, moreso I am just curious how quickly the ai/algorithms receive the information and then adjust as necessary.
Because a pilot is not just someone applying pressure on the stick. The machine can aviate, navigate and even communicate for you to an extent, but you are still the brain, the manager of the whole situation. The machine can't come up with creative solutions to exotic problems, it can't see beyond the sensors and it can't do what it wasn't designed to do. Meanwhile, humans are incredibly creative and inventive, have great situational awareness and can easily interact with other humans. One complements the other well. This kind of tech has been used in military fighter aircraft for a while now, so it would make sense to look at the future of these to guess what is the future of civil aircraft. While drones have taken certain missions, they are fundamentally limited (depends on active communications, limited intelligence) and by themselves cannot replace manned aircraft. However, we see projects like in France where the next gen strategy is to essentially have a single or a small group of manned fighters with a fighter drone escort which they can command from their aircraft. What I would learn from this is that it's extremely hard to keep humans out of the loop entirely, but we might need less of them in the future to reach the same capacity as before. This brings the idea of the single pilot airliner. But does it even make sense? Being a first officer before being a captain is a necessary learning experience if the airline wants to get more captains for its fleet, and during that time he/she is also a pretty handy pair of hands. The crew isn't even that expensive compared to the cost of a commercial flight. So, reducing the crew to zero is currently impossible and reducing it to 1 is not that practical for most missions. People scream "but AI!", but AI is really an overhyped technology currently. This system here is using about as much AI as most factory automation uses, and it is impressive because of how efficient it is, how many systems it affects and how it is available on light aircraft on which automation is a new thing. Truth is, AI is really, really not where people think it is. We have tools like machine learning which can produce sometime spectacular results, but also spectacular failure, and if (or rather when) we will manage to create an intelligence capable of displacing pilots, that same intelligence will be capable of displacing pretty much every human from its job. I currently work in IT with a background in EE and industrial automation. I spent most of my earlier career in 3D printing and other additive manufacturing tech. I'm sick of it and currently studying to be a pilot. If I'm going to be pressing buttons all my life, I'd rather do it in the air.
This kind of amazing technology could easily lead to the dreaded single pilot Part 121 scheduled airline flying that I think is in our future. If the pilot becomes incapacitated , the Lead flight attendant would be trained in activating a fully automated approach and landing with the touch of one or two buttons. Any deadheading company pilots on board would be first choice to save the day of course. What the heck happens when a pitot tube clogs up with ice and sends erroneous info to this automated system, may or may not be worked out yet. But , it is a fascinating subject.
Would be possible depending how detailed the database it its using. Best glide performance is relative easy to do for a autopilot; adjust elevator trim to maintain the speed of the best glide performance. That speed is known for each plane.
cmulder002 true. I saw this feature also highlighted on the Cirrus Vision. I suppose in that case, it could continue flight until CAPS deployment altitude.
Guess the same as the plane its fitted to? Since its a emergency only system its "goal" it to get the plane down so the people inside it live. Wrecking the plane while doing so for the insurance company to deal with.
Most likely not, especially considering how it didn't track runway center line. I'd think this is a reserve system in the event the pilot(s) has a heart attack, stroke, etc. That renders them incapable of flying but there are passengers on-board. Sure would be fun to disable the emergency radioing and fly somewhere and let it choose somewhere to land while you kick back though!
Not even close. In spite of CAT IIIB autoland sounding like something that makes the pilots job easier... it’s purpose is to allow very low minimums and pilots to concentrate on getting the required reference to ensure the landing will be safe with reaction times that would be impossible to do if the pilot was also landing the aircraft. That was until HUDs became available and now pilots can hand fly to CAT III minimums because they don’t need to cross check instruments. Not only does CAT IIIB require a suitable airport approach and CAT IIIB operations to be in effect, but the aircraft must be certified for it with Autoland capability, two channel autopilot, radar altimeter, etc etc plus two crew (never single pilot) who are trained and current (through simulator sessions) in CAT IIIB operations. And what this does is it allows aircraft to plan to do blind landings with paying passengers. And even if a light aircraft could do it... it’s most likely it would be turned away because CAT III operations greatly reduce airport capacity. Now... in an emergency... like this is designed for. All bets are off. I was caught above fog one night in a Cessna 172 and my plan was to circle until my fuel endurance was critical (no suitable diversionary airports) and then declare an emergency with equipment waiting and do a CAT I ILS to landing or impact... setting the plane up on the 12,000 foot runway like a glassy water landing on floats (full flaps, 100-200 FPM sink) at 200 feet while continuing to track the localizer. Fortunately, the wind came up and the fog dispersed.
I think it's more taking advantage of having no approach minimums once you've declared an emergency. You can take an ILS all the way to zero today if you want as long as you've declared an emergency.
Seems like it should auto activate like a deadman’s switch if the PIC doesn’t respond to a periodic alarm which requires acknowledgement. E.g. every 10 minutes of no input to the PFD, a signal must be answered. The PFD displays a two digit code which must be entered into the keypad which would not just verify the PIC is awake but entering the correct digits would also guard against hypoxia impairment. If the PIC was actively using the PFD then no code challenge would occur. Requiring a button to be pushed to activate wouldn’t work in case of a PIC medical condition preventing manual activation.
The Garmins already have something like this for hypoxia -- it auto-descends to lower altitude if it determines you are not alert. I imagine that if you don't recover alertness, it will transition to autoland in that case. So, the only thing missing would be the same sort of alertness detection below the hypoxic altitudes.
When the system communicates with the airport, how does the airport give clearance to land and which runway, or does this thing just barge right in regardless?
No mention about how it deals with traffic at an uncontrolled field, or an aircraft in the vicinity that is not in touch with ATC. I imagine someone is working on this? At my age I don’t fly without a spare pilot.
if it was implemented they would have mentioned it. Guess now they just assume the chance of a mid air or runway incursion is low enough to be acceptable during a emergency
I love this looks like it could use some work, it seemed like a bit of a rough landing, off centerline and veered to the right a bit, but it did try to go back to centerline and did land, so I see very high potential for this, I love it
Wow. Just as we were expecting Meyer's Xavion avionics partnership to go mainstream, Gamin trumps that - and also lands the aircraft (a bit right of centreline, but churlish to mention that!)
Once activated I wonder how it would handle an engine failure in a single engine aircraft? Probably deliver the message; "Autoland cancelled, your problem mate."
Highways are mapped, if it cannot reach a field, it could technically land on a highway. You really underestimate technology and assume it's all so basic. Try looking at how software works underneath and you'll be surprised at the elegant complexity.
well I mean that's not its purpose tho, right? If the pilot can't respond the aircraft is gone regardless if no fuel, or engine failure or engine is 100%
@@infiltr80r while that is true, it can't yet see traffic. Also for a field landing it can't see smaller buildings and power lines, so a pilot should still do a much better job picking an emergency spot. Not sure about an incapacitaded pilot after being replaced by a non pilot! But I bet in another decade that will be solved.
@@infiltr80r Actually I don't underestimate technology but as a pilot I know handling a forced landing without power requires human level perception and abilities. Maybe AI will one day get there but at that point it will instantly surpass humans.
Why is there not a single video introducing the new ATC messages? Does it declare Emergency? What if further errors occour, such as landing gear not responding etc.?
@@Kaipeternicolas I think it can only improve if they start relying on video & computer vision algorithms to assist in the steering. So, for this iteration of the plane (that presumably doesn't have a camera), I don't see improvement. I work on software that drives big UAV's to autoland with computer vision, GPS, & laser altimeters. I know it can be done - you just need the right hardware, and of course the right software. I also have to wonder if the demo pilot here started to use the rudder to assist during the rollout. We can't see what his feet are doing.
I think its only using GPS location to land right now and GPS is only so accurate. It should be good enough to get you down safely on most runways and it most likely will only choose commercial runways since emergency services will be needed.
@@SirFloofy001 Yeah, it's not clear how they decide which runway to select. In some parts of the country, you're a very far ways away from a big commercial airport.
Would be interesting to see a system on a commercial jet where the pilot can activate an auto-land and then lock out the controls in the case of an attempted cabin breach / hijacking.
Yeah this could have been implemented on an airliner decades ago We’re good buddy, check my comment further up if you want to see my proof that doesn’t even cover why airline pilots will still be needed in the future. (Not just for passenger comfort and emergencies)
What happens when it starts yelling RECALCULATING!!!! That's what my Garmin did in my car...
Make a U Turn when possible
That because you didn't do what it told you too.
There’s a dark spot in your underware!!!
😂😂
Machines: They're just like us and miss that center line. ;-)
(amazing video!)
Yeah, not exactly "flawless"... But certainly adequate in an emergency situation.
Zac Randazzo they aren’t flawless that’s why there needs to be a balance of human machine interaction and cross check which is what has made flying so safe
The comments here must come from totally technical not affine persons. How the heck shall the plane get the centerlane? Mus be only gps landing. No camera to look out for the center lane. But they market it as if there are a thousand cams... and a blonde with a beer waiting just for you
Maybe when ATTOL technology is developed and tested more...
I was wondering that myself, I thought it must be the GPS tolerance but it was right of centre line on the synthetic vision screen also so that means the system knew exactly where it was, right of centre lol . . .
Feels like the most complicated bit is unlatching the doors...
I was thinking the same thing. If there is smoke in the cabin, you've got a serious problem. I hope there is a "repeat" button on the instruction player.
@@bob456fk6 I agree but on the flip side of that, any pilot worth his salt is gonna brief everybody on what to do in the event of emergency, including how to operate the doors. Valid point, though.
@@jmullentech yeah but this is here for when the pilot is incapacitated.
@@natelav534 that's the point of briefing
When I get my vl3 I hope I can have this
There used to be an old saying in aviation: "someday, there will only be a pilot and a dog in the cockpit. The pilot to watch the instruments, and the dog to bite the pilot if he tries to touch anything."
That’s Airbus now. And with the way technology is advancing, the dog could probably be replaced by a cattle prod.
Really the airlines had auto land system for year a lot of restrictions like wind conditions
Hector Rios 8, yes, but those systems cost many hundreds of thousands/millions of dollars and wouldn’t even fit in a small ga airplane. We also landed on the moon 50+ years ago.
@@hectorrios2577 yeah but the safe return system if for private aviators, those big proper systems airliners use are handled by cabin crew or maybe a pilot. Not by passengers.
And that's why I'm aiming to enter a different career pathway after school. I fly for the passion, not for the plane to fly for me.
I had autoland in my Cessna 172 XP back in 1979 when I started my training. I took my hands off of the controls, sat back, and watched my instructor land the plane. Wallah....AUTOLAND!
There are companies specialized in providing that service of flying for you ; they are called airlines ;)
والله!
Loren Jackson wallah? Really are you Australian ?
Victor Da Silva ? Why doe sir matter if he’s australian
wallah....do you mean "voilà" lmao.
Elon Musk: our cars drive themselves
Garmin: hold my beer
Lot less traffic to worry about up there ; the chance of a kid running on front of your plane chasing its soccer ball is really small.
In a car its a much bigger issue.
@@cmulder002 definitely the truth
@Richard Ren that is just statistics; once there are "enough" of these systems in use sooner or later there will be a set of circumstances its not programmed for and it will crash.
Both on the road and in the air.
@Richard Ren That is already implemented; The reason you are told NOT move the controls is that when you do it disables the autopilot and switches to manual control.
No need to push a button just fly the plane and press the auto-land button again if you want the system to land for you again.
to be fair his rockets fly themselves too
Impressed. Garmin has come a long way since the first time I saw them in a booth at Oshkosh. Well done. Well done.
yea, I am quite speechless what they achieved here
This technology is simply amazing to me. Of course, back when I got into aviation, things like NDB approaches, DF Steers and manual E6B flight computers were the norm. I still remember how amazed I was when they upgraded the old coffee grinder(manual tune) radios in the aircraft and soon after, I got to use my first RNAV unit. In fact, in later years(80's) when the company installed the Apollo 604 Loran in my aircraft, that was like Star Trek tech. Yes, I'm old...lol.
Les B the funny thing is that it’s relatively simple math, but we needed several different sectors of technology to get to a certain point before it was viable.
My grandfather flew from at 16 (1953) until his 60s and in addition to flying loved computers. He has passed now but every time I see technology like this I think about how totally amazed he would be at the things that are possible in GA.
@@Mrcaffinebean I'm retired now and fly a Super Cub for fun, which only has minimal avionics. However, I was given a Garmin D2 Delta PX aviators watch recently as a gift. It will provide navigational info, altitude alerting, Nexrad radar, pulse ox sensing, automatic flight logging, fitness tracking, mobile music, contact-less payments, etc., etc.. I've also heard a rumor that it might even give you the current time!
It's sorta unsettling to know that when I fly my Cub, the watch on my wrist is light years more technologically advanced than my entire airplane.
Les, you and I are of the same vintage my friend, in Navy Flight School in Pensacola I was taught, and flew, ADF approaches. Now a days when I tell current Pilots they just stare at me and then laugh.
As much as I like VOR/RNAV navigation, I would love to practice and master NDB departures and approaches in the air, and not only in a sim.
Thank you for flying with Garmin Autoland. You may find snacks in the refreshment cabinet.
This is such an incredible safety system. Just mind blown by what human intelligence can achieve over the years.
I heard this aircraft automatically broadcasting on 121.5 the other day flying to Dallas. Took the rest of us by surprise and thought it was an actual emergency.
W. O. W.
I am assuming ATC has to deal with whatever the system says it is going to do.
@@RiDankulous they probably did warn them. Doesn’t mean the rest of us listening will be aware
@Apollo737 what was the voice like? Was it an automated “robot” like tone broadcasting to ATC?
@@Strato6049 Been a while since I heard it. It sounded pre recorded and not robotic if my memory is as sharp as I hope it is.
And this assumes no mechanical malfunction whatsoever, just pilot incapacitation. Correct? Very impressive I must add.
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You should check out the NASA PCA... Almost everything in aicraft automation has already been done in some way or the other.. (hell we are landing 30 meter tubes from the edge of space with a single vectoring engine)
These are the exact reasons why autonomous drones that fly people are coming, soon.
Well no shit, genius
Flying Dog let’s keep it professional, thank you.
@@Blue_Angel.555 You are too fucking stupid to be a professional.
Okay that is really impressive! I'm not a plane-guy but working in software engineering and its truely spectacular how this system works!
that would definitely be a nice feature to have especially the older folks that like flying with their families. Gives the piece of mind that if something unexpected happens to you, your family can still make it home.
I'd really love to hear those radio calls and automated announcements.
It's on the garmin autoland configuration video. It says the tail number, pilot incapacitation, the destination airport, and time before landing. My guess is it keeps rebroadcasting the message at certain intervals. I'd like to know what happens once the airplane is on the ground at an unmonitered/untowered Airport.
They should add more audio announcement; people forced to use this when the pilot becomes unresponsive will panic.
Announcing what is happening like the moving trim wheels (and tell them not to touch them) might assist calming them building confidence in the system
@Ganz Bestimmt Elevator music: "I'm leaving on a jet plane, I don't know when I'll be back again..." Passenger: "WTF!!!"
@Ganz Bestimmt Eight miles high
Trim wheels move themselves on normal autopilot do they not?
@@darthscion trim wheels do move themselves a normal autopilot. In most general aviation autopilot systems, the elevator control is purely with the trim servo
Computer girl needs more panic in her voice to add realism.
OH MY GOD, WERE PROBABLY GONNA DIE! PUT YOUR SEAT BELTS ON NOW AND DON'T TOUCH ME!
Reminds me of the computer talking in Spaceballs before the ship blows heh
"If you touch me, I will file for sexual harrasment."
I had to chuckle at this.
That's the optional SJW version
I have a hunch Cirrus will be the first to make this standard. Seems like something they would do and market to their customers who would appreciate it and not be offended by it.
If you watched to the end of the video it says that the Cirrus Vision is coming standard with it in 2020 if the system gets certified.
No time for auto land, I'm going in the Hudson.
David Ghaemi hahaha underrated :)
what s shitty joke
@@ДмЮнит Heres another shitty joke, your mums so fat that when she steps on the scales it says to be continued...
Lol
such a bad joke it made me laugh
Kudos to whoever designed the audio and graphical interface. Very clear, simple and geared at the right audience - nonpilot passengers.
think they could add more voice announcements explaining what is happening and what to expect; that might calm people down.
Awesome. Did I hear correctly that the system can detect hypoxia and start the emergency decent all the way to full stop and shut down? What an excellent piece of equipment. I think it will also be useful in other situations beyond an incopacitated pilot. I am thinking vfr caught on top or otherwise inadvertently in imc. This will save lives. Wow! Great job Garmin. I think we will see a bunch of auto throttle and brake servo STCs in the near future to make the retrofits possible.
What they could do is implement a test to make the pilot perform a task and if he fails initiate the autoland.
You are right, VFR pilots flying into IMC is a top killer.
I think it auto initiates after a certain time of no pilot input
@@GabeClendenning hope the time limit is altitude dependent; 10 sec is a long time flying towards terrain. (actually does it do terrain avoidance? with its database and location awareness that should be possible)
And the last thing the robot voice says: Thanks for flying Garmin Emergency Autoland Flight
I noticed it failed to give information on connecting flights and gates.
This is Collier trophy and Noble prize worthy innovation!
Amazing!
Not really... All they did was put systems that were there two decades ago together. Nothing novel about it IMO. Just had to invest the money, which should be awarded with something more appropriate for private companies.
@@rkan2 the interaction with the outside world is the novel part. But agree not on "Nobel price" level.
Collier trophy on the other hand is much more appropriate since this technology improvement will contribute to saving lives.
Imagine being the first person to test that system and being told to keep all hands and feet away from the controls.
trust the force (Luke?)
Lol GA doctors gonna be pushing this thing every other flight.
I want to disagree, but I have personal experience in this area. Lol
The aircraft declares an emergency automatically and squawks 7700, plus it will shut off in the middle of the runway. Both FAA and Airport are coming for you if it was not justified
@Youric Hunt It was a joke about how often general aviators who are also medical doctors tend to get in trouble in the air, with many crashing.
Richard Whittall doctors ruin everything. Try sharing a race track with them 😵😵😵. I’ll get off the track if there’s a doctor at the brief
Yeah, this should be mandatory equipment in all Bonanza's.
Absolutely incredible to see this kind of autoland system on general aviation aircraft. What an amazing time to be alive.
The fact that you have an emergency and that "EMERGENCY AUTOLAND HAS BEEN ACTIVATED" animation is just so straight out of a start up web company that you think you've seen some advertisement wondering where the close button is
That's the first time i actually see successful work on automatics, *and* their presentation is not "in your face" or "this should be enforced to every plane NOW!". I'm impressed.
The lady in the back seat was the person giving the Autoland Emergency Message. BOOM. Don't forget yours.
How rude that she was not introduced!
This is amazing, it will save lives. I'm sure a few pilots who find themselves disoriented or suddenly out of scope will also use this.
would have liked to hear the radio traffic between the automation and ATC...
Very cool! Larry, I saw you had your hand near the yoke on the round out. I would too...LOL
I'd like to know what happens when the system can't find a suitable runway for whatever reason. (Middle of nowhere, runways too short, or too low) Does it say unable and turn off/not activate in the first place?
Outstanding job! ANY landing you can walk away from!😁👍🇺🇸
the insurance companies will love this ;)
Most important thing said here was that it’s easy for regulators to say no. Lawyers and insurers, too. If they are getting those groups to say yes for a change, things might really improve.
Think of the situations this is intended for, e.g. pilot heart attack. Unless there is a co-pilot they almost always end in fatal crashes. Regulators and Insurers would always prefer something that at least attempts to get them down safely on a runway with emergency services standing by. Otherwise this is what normally happens: www.foxnews.com/us/iowa-plane-crash-kills-four-after-pilot-suffers-heart-attack-police-say
I’ve been waiting for this for the last 30 years.
"Mav, do you remember the number of that truck driving school that was on TV the other night, Truck America or something like that?"
Nicely done.
As a former Navy Fighter Pilot… Please don’t bring up that movie. At least don’t think that’s what Naval Aviation is really like, I could point out 100 mistakes.
Stuff like this makes me feel happy to be alive in this day and age.
A useful feature in case of erratic manual control would be for the system to announce that it will automatically engage if not cancelled due to suspected pilot incompacitation.
I assumed (wrongly) that this system would require an ILS runway. The fact that it can perform this autoland on a GPS L+V approach is amazing - a real game changer. Well done Garmin. This is undoubtedly the future of pilot incapacitation safety.
Well, to be fair, Garmin have been a GPS company a lot longer than they've been doing aircraft systems. So their experience with GPS means they know very precisely what it can and can't do.
GPS altitude is accurate to 18 ft so You don't really need it... Garmin avionics allow you to set up a GPS approach and put a simulated ILS on your HSI
I hope this doesn’t ruin my plans to be a pilot in the future
This is absolutely amazing. It's a feature you never want to use, but it's there when needed. Just holy shit.
Well, the simmer's dream of land and save the day when the pilots become incapacitated is over. Lol..
dammit all those hours on ms flight sim for nothing
I really don’t get this nonsense thing, no one is going to be pushing anything when their incapacitated, anyone in the back of the plane will be clueless as to what buttons to push when the fat guy up front is having a heart attack so what’s the point.
@@tropicthndr it must be some big red button! lol
@@tropicthndr pilot will have to advise the pax about this function. It will take 30 seconds during preflight briefing.
@@MarekMarciniak on the vision jet, its a giant red button on the center of the ceiling, that says emergency auto land. In that case, even if you don't give a briefing all of the passengers will see it right away, and know what to press in case you croak at the controls.
Awesome System....it is so userfriendly, even for very stressed non flying people in an emergency. Great work Garmin. I wish all my electronic devices are as userfriendly and helpful...
Let me reach into my pocket for that 3 million!
@@sweetghost99 Only a small loan of 1 million dollars.
Just like everything else, the prices will come down. Maybe not until 2035, but they'll eventually will come down. LOL
"how big is your Airline?"
"Well, can expand to 20,000 planes during any type of surge event with just the push of a button now..
Blake Belladonna Most GA aircraft are in excess of $500k USD. I doubt RVs cost as much as a Lamborghini...
That's awesome. Good work, Garmin. You're so much more than weather !
Thats incredible. Good job Garmin. I am not a pilot. That is really cool. Hope to get my private one day.
Phil Straub was my flight instructor at Baker Aviation back in 1992. Great to see him at Garmin.
Great Job Garmin!!! Awesome System!
Sooo....you take off,gain altitude,push button for emergency landing,pop up canopy, jump off using parachute and your aircraft is waiting for you at airport 😂
It all is coming together. I hope this will save many lifes!
This is nothing short of brilliant! Thanks for sharing this. :)
Does it squawk 7700? Would love to hear the radio announcements!
I got to see this aircraft in person at our FBO last year, awesome crew and awesome aircraft
Would love to hear what the communication with ATC sounds like.
I wonder what the system does if it can't find a suitable airport within range. Of course that would be a pretty edge scenario but still curious
I assume the communication with ATC would be one-sided, therefore the system would declare an emergency right away? How are readbacks/blocked messages handled? Would love to hear some sample audio.
I'm assuming it listens for a clear channel before transmitting, declares a mayday and states this is an automated message with an incapacitated pilot.
I would also assume that it waits for an opportunity to transmit. But even if not, they mentioned in the video that the message gets repeated every couple minutes, so it would get across eventually.
If you use some intelligence. I will use mine for you. Pilot heart attack switches on auto land or auto land activates itself. Mayday mayday mayday, this is the garmin auto land system, we are declaring an emergency. Air traffic controller, to all traffic we have a mayday, please hold your approach until may day is clear.
All this new technology and I love seeing the old backup Telex microphone next to the pilot's left knee.
How does the system know about tempoary airport closures? E.g. runway closed, workmen on the runway etc..? Can ATC deny or manipulate the Garmin’s airport/runway choice?
BlueLineSpeed good questions. I’m sure it checks NOTAMS for the word CLOSED... I hope
Another reason why it’s going to take many many years to remove pilots
boosti_ alex Yep. And that’s it’s simulator footage on landing.
John Mangiameli thats odd for a system that supposedly works perfectly
@@boosti_alex1428 I would argue that pilotless planes are an easier proposition than driverless cars on several levels. The sensor feeds for aircraft and wiggle room on a runway (vs a narrow road with oncoming traffic) seem an easier task.
Cirrus guys will love this
Neat! Serious question...How does the system know the suitable airport's runway is open?
Steaven Mckenzie probably a quick check of the NOTAMS similar to how Foreflight has all that stuff
It is an emergency, the system don't care
In an emergency you can legally land at any airfield, open or not.
@@bigred5287 Very true. I guess I should be more specific...At a moments notice a runway can be shut down. Downed aircraft, animals on the runway, severe icing any number of reasons. I used to run a flight school's line service and our one concrete runway would shut down for various reasons quite randomly. I'm very aware of all the factors behind the technology as it is directly in line with what I do for a living, moreso I am just curious how quickly the ai/algorithms receive the information and then adjust as necessary.
Bigred Jack Physics says that if you try to land on a runway that is closed for resurfacing, you are about to have a really bad day.
What a beautifully elegant system.
What does it say to ATC? How does it sound?
b9y I believe that it says the regular emergency call and sounds like what the passengers hear.
I can remember while in the service they were testing ACLS on the aircraft carrier back in the mid seventies.
Looks like a sim to me. Look out the window upon approach and landing?
I think so too
Fantastic technology! Thank you for you're dedication to safety
And why am I studying to become a pilot again?
So you will have the qualification to press the button, of course. Everybody likes to press buttons!
Because a pilot is not just someone applying pressure on the stick. The machine can aviate, navigate and even communicate for you to an extent, but you are still the brain, the manager of the whole situation.
The machine can't come up with creative solutions to exotic problems, it can't see beyond the sensors and it can't do what it wasn't designed to do. Meanwhile, humans are incredibly creative and inventive, have great situational awareness and can easily interact with other humans. One complements the other well.
This kind of tech has been used in military fighter aircraft for a while now, so it would make sense to look at the future of these to guess what is the future of civil aircraft.
While drones have taken certain missions, they are fundamentally limited (depends on active communications, limited intelligence) and by themselves cannot replace manned aircraft. However, we see projects like in France where the next gen strategy is to essentially have a single or a small group of manned fighters with a fighter drone escort which they can command from their aircraft. What I would learn from this is that it's extremely hard to keep humans out of the loop entirely, but we might need less of them in the future to reach the same capacity as before.
This brings the idea of the single pilot airliner. But does it even make sense? Being a first officer before being a captain is a necessary learning experience if the airline wants to get more captains for its fleet, and during that time he/she is also a pretty handy pair of hands. The crew isn't even that expensive compared to the cost of a commercial flight. So, reducing the crew to zero is currently impossible and reducing it to 1 is not that practical for most missions.
People scream "but AI!", but AI is really an overhyped technology currently. This system here is using about as much AI as most factory automation uses, and it is impressive because of how efficient it is, how many systems it affects and how it is available on light aircraft on which automation is a new thing. Truth is, AI is really, really not where people think it is. We have tools like machine learning which can produce sometime spectacular results, but also spectacular failure, and if (or rather when) we will manage to create an intelligence capable of displacing pilots, that same intelligence will be capable of displacing pretty much every human from its job.
I currently work in IT with a background in EE and industrial automation. I spent most of my earlier career in 3D printing and other additive manufacturing tech. I'm sick of it and currently studying to be a pilot. If I'm going to be pressing buttons all my life, I'd rather do it in the air.
Both pilots and truck drivers are obsolete in the next 10 - 15 years.
@@robertl30 Airliners have been landing themselves for years. Pilots aren't going anywhere anytime soon.
@@robertl30 Trains are on rails and many still have conductors. Pilots are not disappearing anytime in the near future.
i want to see actions in gusty winds, there are cases when you need full deflection and very fast in order to stay on profile...
I really wish to hear the ATC communication it establishes. Sad its never published ;(
There's a transcript on the EASA website.
One of the coolest things I’ve seen
This kind of amazing technology could easily lead to the dreaded single pilot Part 121 scheduled airline flying that I think is in our future. If the pilot becomes incapacitated , the Lead flight attendant would be trained in activating a fully automated approach and landing with the touch of one or two buttons. Any deadheading company pilots on board would be first choice to save the day of course. What the heck happens when a pitot tube clogs up with ice and sends erroneous info to this automated system, may or may not be worked out yet. But , it is a fascinating subject.
Dual pito
@@pilotavery exactly 😎
@@geoffreybradford I mean basically every single engine now has dual pito and dual aoa. Both are fed to both pfd so that a failed one is ignored.
How does it handle a subsequent loss of power/thrust? Will it establish best glide and look for suitable terrain for off-airport landing?
Would be possible depending how detailed the database it its using.
Best glide performance is relative easy to do for a autopilot; adjust elevator trim to maintain the speed of the best glide performance.
That speed is known for each plane.
cmulder002 true. I saw this feature also highlighted on the Cirrus Vision. I suppose in that case, it could continue flight until CAPS deployment altitude.
what an amazing age we live in.
Yep, we are all slowly but steadily becoming obsolete. Really amazing!
Pretty wild....I wonder though....what are the crosswind limitations on this system....
Guess the same as the plane its fitted to? Since its a emergency only system its "goal" it to get the plane down so the people inside it live.
Wrecking the plane while doing so for the insurance company to deal with.
Insurance companies should subsidence this and offed discounts for aircraft with this fitted.
It can save them a lot of money.
Then add a new price bracket which is even cheaper with completely automated flying.
@@rkan2 they can call that the "Beechcraft Bonanza" bracket for doctors. ;)
This will absolutely save lives, and prevent a Smithsonian Channel video from happening.
Does this add CAT III capability to a GA aircraft?
Most likely not, especially considering how it didn't track runway center line. I'd think this is a reserve system in the event the pilot(s) has a heart attack, stroke, etc. That renders them incapable of flying but there are passengers on-board.
Sure would be fun to disable the emergency radioing and fly somewhere and let it choose somewhere to land while you kick back though!
Not even close.
In spite of CAT IIIB autoland sounding like something that makes the pilots job easier... it’s purpose is to allow very low minimums and pilots to concentrate on getting the required reference to ensure the landing will be safe with reaction times that would be impossible to do if the pilot was also landing the aircraft. That was until HUDs became available and now pilots can hand fly to CAT III minimums because they don’t need to cross check instruments.
Not only does CAT IIIB require a suitable airport approach and CAT IIIB operations to be in effect, but the aircraft must be certified for it with Autoland capability, two channel autopilot, radar altimeter, etc etc plus two crew (never single pilot) who are trained and current (through simulator sessions) in CAT IIIB operations.
And what this does is it allows aircraft to plan to do blind landings with paying passengers.
And even if a light aircraft could do it... it’s most likely it would be turned away because CAT III operations greatly reduce airport capacity.
Now... in an emergency... like this is designed for. All bets are off.
I was caught above fog one night in a Cessna 172 and my plan was to circle until my fuel endurance was critical (no suitable diversionary airports) and then declare an emergency with equipment waiting and do a CAT I ILS to landing or impact... setting the plane up on the 12,000 foot runway like a glassy water landing on floats (full flaps, 100-200 FPM sink) at 200 feet while continuing to track the localizer. Fortunately, the wind came up and the fog dispersed.
I think it's more taking advantage of having no approach minimums once you've declared an emergency. You can take an ILS all the way to zero today if you want as long as you've declared an emergency.
Nice, this should be on everything flying in the sky.
Seems like it should auto activate like a deadman’s switch if the PIC doesn’t respond to a periodic alarm which requires acknowledgement. E.g. every 10 minutes of no input to the PFD, a signal must be answered. The PFD displays a two digit code which must be entered into the keypad which would not just verify the PIC is awake but entering the correct digits would also guard against hypoxia impairment. If the PIC was actively using the PFD then no code challenge would occur. Requiring a button to be pushed to activate wouldn’t work in case of a PIC medical condition preventing manual activation.
lohphat or a pulse-ox sensor
The Garmins already have something like this for hypoxia -- it auto-descends to lower altitude if it determines you are not alert. I imagine that if you don't recover alertness, it will transition to autoland in that case. So, the only thing missing would be the same sort of alertness detection below the hypoxic altitudes.
Very cool and innovative. Can’t wait to see this system implemented.
When the system communicates with the airport, how does the airport give clearance to land and which runway, or does this thing just barge right in regardless?
This would be used in an emergency which would give it priority over all other traffic regardless.
@@zachr8274 … except the *other* autolanding emergency. But I'd assume that TCAS integration could resolve that.
It uses the Leeroy Jenkins approach.
The fact that this autopilot landed more efficiently and accuractly than most pilot who own this kind of planes is hilarious to me :)
someday.. it might say.."Turn left at the next waypoint."
Will this be available for larger private jets?
No mention about how it deals with traffic at an uncontrolled field, or an aircraft in the vicinity that is not in touch with ATC. I imagine someone is working on this?
At my age I don’t fly without a spare pilot.
Fly safe man.
if it was implemented they would have mentioned it.
Guess now they just assume the chance of a mid air or runway incursion is low enough to be acceptable during a emergency
I love this looks like it could use some work, it seemed like a bit of a rough landing, off centerline and veered to the right a bit, but it did try to go back to centerline and did land, so I see very high potential for this, I love it
If you can pack it in a Bonanza, it would save a bunch of doctors.
That joke is stale AF
@@donanders2110 But sadly still relevant...
Great and wonderful.Thanks for developing the auto landing system.
Wow. Just as we were expecting Meyer's Xavion avionics partnership to go mainstream, Gamin trumps that - and also lands the aircraft (a bit right of centreline, but churlish to mention that!)
I bet inside 3 years they add camera systems to augment the GPS and make it perfect. Maybe even ground distance radar
@@MotorsportsX I think there must already be a RadAlt installed in this.
This is very impressive. Feels a bit like a middle step to fully autonomous air taxis.
Once activated I wonder how it would handle an engine failure in a single engine aircraft?
Probably deliver the message;
"Autoland cancelled, your problem mate."
becomes an auto-glider with an emergency brake chute maybe. That might actually work in small craft. Not so much in anything larger.
Highways are mapped, if it cannot reach a field, it could technically land on a highway. You really underestimate technology and assume it's all so basic. Try looking at how software works underneath and you'll be surprised at the elegant complexity.
well I mean that's not its purpose tho, right? If the pilot can't respond the aircraft is gone regardless if no fuel, or engine failure or engine is 100%
@@infiltr80r while that is true, it can't yet see traffic. Also for a field landing it can't see smaller buildings and power lines, so a pilot should still do a much better job picking an emergency spot. Not sure about an incapacitaded pilot after being replaced by a non pilot!
But I bet in another decade that will be solved.
@@infiltr80r Actually I don't underestimate technology but as a pilot I know handling a forced landing without power requires human level perception and abilities.
Maybe AI will one day get there but at that point it will instantly surpass humans.
Simply incredible. The only thing I noticed was it didn’t land on the centerline. Did a large amount of my flight training out of New Century. 👍🏻
might indicate it relies on gps alone for its location.
That means even small airport can be used for landing this way.
Very impressive. I just want the plane. A major step up from my previous 210 and 182 ownership. Now if I could remember where I laid that $2.9 mill 😄
Just to the right of my hiding place !!!!!
Why is there not a single video introducing the new ATC messages? Does it declare Emergency? What if further errors occour, such as landing gear not responding etc.?
Most crashes and deaths occur with a competent pilot at the controls.
Is it just me or does this airplane look luxurious? I see leather stitching everywhere! On the seats, on the dash, on the damn yokes!
Impressive, except for the lack of maintaining runway centerline. If it landed on a narrow runway, you're going to disembark.
Still gets you down safely... I'm sure it'll improve
I wonder if there's a minimum runway width criteria the system considers when seeking a suitable landing airport?
@@Kaipeternicolas I think it can only improve if they start relying on video & computer vision algorithms to assist in the steering. So, for this iteration of the plane (that presumably doesn't have a camera), I don't see improvement. I work on software that drives big UAV's to autoland with computer vision, GPS, & laser altimeters. I know it can be done - you just need the right hardware, and of course the right software.
I also have to wonder if the demo pilot here started to use the rudder to assist during the rollout. We can't see what his feet are doing.
I think its only using GPS location to land right now and GPS is only so accurate. It should be good enough to get you down safely on most runways and it most likely will only choose commercial runways since emergency services will be needed.
@@SirFloofy001 Yeah, it's not clear how they decide which runway to select. In some parts of the country, you're a very far ways away from a big commercial airport.
9:42 We finally see the face of the lady in the back.
@TurnTimeTable Assuming you believe this to be true, what is your claim based on?
Would be interesting to see a system on a commercial jet where the pilot can activate an auto-land and then lock out the controls in the case of an attempted cabin breach / hijacking.
that might become a next mcas then
the' pilot regardless of skill level should always have the final say in control.
there went my job 😞
Airliners have been landing themselves for a long time now. Job isn't going anywhere
Don’t give up on flying! Demand has never been higher.
Yeah this could have been implemented on an airliner decades ago
We’re good buddy, check my comment further up if you want to see my proof that doesn’t even cover why airline pilots will still be needed in the future. (Not just for passenger comfort and emergencies)
They aren't taking the pilot out of passenger airplanes for decades, if ever
Flyguy4723 not a chance dude