The World's Most Dangerous Approach - Paro, Bhutan

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  • Опубліковано 19 кві 2019
  • Join me on a flight with Bhutan Airlines (Tashi Air) A319 from Kathmandu to Paro, Bhutan. Paro Airport is situated in between mountains and valleys at 7,332 ft above sea level. The approach is well considered as one of the most dangerous and most spectacular in the world. Check out the amazing landing footage.
    In addition, the flight also flew across many top 10 mountains in the world include Mt Everest.
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    Join us for a spectacular and thrilling, up close, documentary look at the world’s most dangerous airport landing at Paro airport in Bhutan. Make sure you watch all the way to the end of the video to catch the sped up, bird’s eye view of the fabulous and graceful twisting and turning of the aeroplane on its approach to the landing strip of Paro airport, the sole international airport of Bhutan located six kilometres from Paro in a very deep valley on the bank of the river Paro Chhu, and how the runway suddenly appears from nowhere. It takes a real aviation expert and a very steady hand to make a safe landing at Paro airport!
    In this video, we fly from Kathmandu airport in Nepal to Paro airport in Bhutan using Bhutan airlines. After a brief look inside Kathmandu airport’s executive airport lounge, we board our flight and meet the chief pilot of Bhutan airlines - we’re in safe hands; only a handful of trained captains are qualified and certified to land at Paro airport and it takes a minimum of eight to ten years of intensive training to become a captain.
    We examine the runway at Kathmandu airport which is very bumpy and, interestingly, has no taxiways to the main runway, necessitating the use of some tricky manoeuvres and, needless to say, keen attention paid to air traffic control.
    The flight is only forty minutes long but the flight is still packed with events and sights. In the video, we see most of the top ten highest mountains in the world within the Himalayas including Mount Makalu, Mount Lhotse and the tallest of all, Mount Everest. We also see the mountains of Bhutan within the Himalayan mountain range including Jomolhari and Jitchu Drake. The pictures of the snow capped mountains of the Himalayas are breath taking and we hear the captain’s opinions of why he thinks there is less snow now than there was in previous years.
    We also enjoy lunch with champagne on board and we enjoy sharing a specially made cake with the Bhutan airlines crew to celebrate our travelling with them to the legendary Paro airport of Bhutan.
    Paro airport is surrounded by mountains as high as 5500 metres and only has a single runway of length 1964 metres. Its single terminal was constructed in 1999 and it is a hub for two airlines: Bhutan airlines and Druk Air. Paro airport is such a difficult airport to land in that it can only be used in visual meteorological conditions and operational hours are restricted to daylight hours between sunrise and sunset.
    You really won’t want to miss this video focusing on the world’s most challenging airport to land at. Let us know in the comments what you thought of the scenery and the whole experience and, as always, thanks for watching!

КОМЕНТАРІ • 12 тис.

  • @moes2168
    @moes2168 2 роки тому +3766

    Captain Badass is hand flying, on a descent path, curving through the mountains while pointing at all the monasteries like he's a tour guide. What a legend.

    • @iZ3C0LD7
      @iZ3C0LD7 2 роки тому +121

      Me flying this route in MSFS: visible shaking that even the controller vibration feels like nothing

    • @localbear9444
      @localbear9444 2 роки тому +30

      @@iZ3C0LD7 that’s exactly what I was thinking, like I always crash or hit the runway hard af

    • @monabhattacharya7046
      @monabhattacharya7046 2 роки тому +14

      I.love Bhutan .It's location is beautiful.

    • @acprado67
      @acprado67 2 роки тому +9

      the same answer I was asking for: WTF are this pilot doing!

    • @irandisilva9036
      @irandisilva9036 2 роки тому +12

      I was terrified by this pilot

  • @bittersweethood
    @bittersweethood 4 роки тому +3628

    amazing, you can tell the captain is really passionate and proud of his country when he is explaining all the landmarks

    • @dharthingo3514
      @dharthingo3514 4 роки тому +79

      Thank you Sam for the amazing video and the discussions with Captain Chenga and his team. Captain Chenga is a legend. Very knowledgeable and the experience he showed in getting the plane to Paro was remarkable. Captain is the Tourism Ambassador of Bhutan. Thank you.

    • @indrabendi3300
      @indrabendi3300 4 роки тому +29

      @@dharthingo3514 he is a great pilot, with amazing skills😎👍

    • @Pistolpete218
      @Pistolpete218 4 роки тому +9

      Pretty legit skills

    • @abbottmd
      @abbottmd 3 роки тому +7

      that was incredible piloting. thank you for sharing

    • @praneyrai5491
      @praneyrai5491 3 роки тому +1

      A

  • @patton303
    @patton303 2 роки тому +1161

    Love this captain. Turns off GPWS, prays, and then starts hand flying through a canyon while pointing out the sights.
    What an amazing guy.

    • @mnpd3
      @mnpd3 Рік тому +7

      I don't want to fly with anyone who disables GPWS in that kind of terrain.

    • @xsaiN2k9
      @xsaiN2k9 Рік тому +228

      @@mnpd3 This is standard procedure. If the GPWS would be enabled, they would get constant warnings which would increase the stress levels.

    • @angela1984a
      @angela1984a Рік тому

      Religion is a complete and utter Delusion.

    • @solidus_snake_
      @solidus_snake_ Рік тому +41

      @@xsaiN2k9 Exactly. Going for that serene Microsoft Flight Simulator Experience for the landing.

    • @ndvrgnt_hikikomori
      @ndvrgnt_hikikomori Рік тому +110

      @@mnpd3 Yes, because you would definitely know how to approach that situation better than a pilot who has done that particular route for at least 10 years - minimum.

  • @gmctech
    @gmctech Рік тому +358

    I absolutely love watching talented pilots performing a highly technical approach and landing. His stick and rudder flying was so smooth and precise it looked like a well choreographed dance... True high quality airmanship here folks!

  • @sunitapradhan1933
    @sunitapradhan1933 4 роки тому +2784

    I am a Bhutanese.
    It's a very honourable thing having such a talented pilot like captain Chenga in our country.
    His friendly attitudes are the warmest welcomes to those who visit our country.
    And special thanks to Mr Sam Chui who represented our country's footage in his channel.

    • @alexjackson224
      @alexjackson224 4 роки тому +19

      Sunita Pradhan sounds like propaganda ngl

    • @manojanu1800
      @manojanu1800 4 роки тому +4

      bhutanmaa poni newar??????

    • @ryanward10
      @ryanward10 4 роки тому +18

      I can't believe you can fly there, what an amazing ride. May God Bless Bhutan, and long keep you free, and independent. ❤

    • @35ozgur
      @35ozgur 4 роки тому +7

      Nice place at least clean air than a big city :)

    • @Run4treadmill
      @Run4treadmill 4 роки тому +4

      Superb

  • @akintoms
    @akintoms 5 років тому +1841

    The Pilot is one of the best and most friendly ☺️☺️☺️

    • @jowelkhankhan7246
      @jowelkhankhan7246 5 років тому +1

      AKIN OK...pin...

    • @SamChui
      @SamChui  5 років тому +80

      Agree. His commentary is excellent. I think him so much for making a good presentation of the flight for many of us to enjoy!

    • @nyomandimas3888
      @nyomandimas3888 5 років тому +14

      you're right. very skilled, and very humble.

    • @troyp9485
      @troyp9485 5 років тому +8

      AKIN this video is a real treat because few westerners get to make a trip like this.

    • @lido211
      @lido211 5 років тому +1

      AKIN has no other choice

  • @SnowTiger45
    @SnowTiger45 2 роки тому +127

    Not just a great pilot, but a damn good tourist guide as well. He knows all the best landmarks throughout the trip.
    In fact, he ought to broadcast to the passengers throughout the flight. He'd be super popular.
    And what a spectacular approach to a runway. Yahoo.

  • @rollingtroll
    @rollingtroll 8 місяців тому +12

    That is the most stable unstabilised approach I ever saw. Awesome!

  • @ksp
    @ksp 5 років тому +797

    Huge respects to Captain Chenga!
    He knows each of mountains from Nepal with their height! Such a knowledgeable and friendly professional pilot!

    • @RuLeZ1988
      @RuLeZ1988 4 роки тому +6

      Definitely huge respect to him. But i think if you got the honor to be allowed to fly through this area and land there, then it is probably a pleasure to know all the mountains with their height:).

    • @culcune
      @culcune 4 роки тому +1

      Amazing views that airliners have; from the ground, Everest is seemingly always covered by clouds.

    • @moviesenthil
      @moviesenthil 4 роки тому +1

      @@culcune There is always that plume of snow being blown off Everest, every time I have seen it, from the ground and air.

  • @rapaelll
    @rapaelll 4 роки тому +1139

    That shot of mt Everest was legendary

    • @rjclarkeePincadeRebel
      @rjclarkeePincadeRebel 4 роки тому +34

      Agreed, an absolutely beautiful once in a lifetime view..

    • @airlineaviation6026
      @airlineaviation6026 4 роки тому +2

      @@rjclarkeePincadeRebel yes I love this landscape

    • @28gone
      @28gone 4 роки тому +1

      Amazing...thanks Sam chui fir the video...really enjoyed ur flight video

    • @richs4god1
      @richs4god1 4 роки тому

      rapaelll i couldn’t agree more

    • @joey0077d
      @joey0077d 4 роки тому

      Yes that was beautiful.

  • @alansimpson596
    @alansimpson596 2 роки тому +209

    I'm an aviation enthusiast and this has become my favourite video. Imagine seeing Everest from an aircraft. Brilliant flight and cabin crew.

    • @davidmarshall718
      @davidmarshall718 2 роки тому +6

      There are quite a few other videos on YT that show Everest from the air even better, but this is the best for the landing at Paro.

    • @alansimpson596
      @alansimpson596 Рік тому +3

      @@davidmarshall718 Thank you David and apologies for my late reply.

    • @bluefender9489
      @bluefender9489 Рік тому +5

      I was flying from Copenhagen to Bangkok, window seat , left side. I happen to have my SLR camera with telephoto lens in the cabin with me. I looked out when we were over northern India and saw what looked like clouds in the distance but then I realised they were mountains. One recognisable shape came into view which was clearly higher than the others. The flight map confirmed that it was Everest. So I have a photo of the summit of Everest taken from complete comfort. I use it as my screensaver. The Earth is so beautiful from the air.

    • @anna-marianunezvega1520
      @anna-marianunezvega1520 Рік тому +2

      I saw MT Everest on a flight from Dubai to Dhaka (we were already starting approach into Dhaka, so we weren't very high). I was lucky and sitting on 1A, so I got unobstracted view of it. It was a true experience!

  • @leokimvideo
    @leokimvideo Рік тому +389

    You get a feel for how high Mt Everest is when in a jet your looking up at it 😳

    • @gomersmith1061
      @gomersmith1061 Рік тому

      Ewe rite, Anne eye no ewe knot gnu hear.

    • @juliebraden6911
      @juliebraden6911 3 місяці тому

      It's not a jet and your spelling is bad.

    • @supremejaggon
      @supremejaggon 2 місяці тому +3

      @@juliebraden6911it is a jet.

    • @6rydrte
      @6rydrte 2 місяці тому

      his spelling is fine@@juliebraden6911

    • @resist56
      @resist56 Місяць тому +2

      @@juliebraden6911 if it has jet engines then it is a jet. a jet airliner, if we're talking commercial aircraft

  • @captare
    @captare 4 роки тому +10639

    Everybody is a gangsta, untill they see the captain pray before landing!

  • @N.I.R.A.T.I.A.S.
    @N.I.R.A.T.I.A.S. 4 роки тому +6122

    "World's most dangerous approach"
    Captain: *acts as tour guide during approach*
    Hats off to the captain. There's no replacement for skill and experience.

    • @justmoritz
      @justmoritz 4 роки тому +57

      Actually non-steril cockpit and all that though.

    • @packetattack7437
      @packetattack7437 4 роки тому +163

      @@justmoritz The Captain's mind, heart and character are sterile, plus he has 500 monks watching over him and his plane :)

    • @justmoritz
      @justmoritz 4 роки тому +7

      n1kkoGFX boooo. Lame.

    • @46monkeyes
      @46monkeyes 4 роки тому +27

      TheLongDark - To the Pilot: Ok, enough about the monasteries that I DON’T see....pay more attention to the HUGE FREAKING MOUNTAINS THAT I *DO* SEE!!

    • @nutzhazel
      @nutzhazel 4 роки тому

      @@justmoritz Lol dudeee since when pilots are doctors?

  • @Mercy2Mee
    @Mercy2Mee 2 роки тому +70

    How often do you find a master pilot and a knowledgeable tour guide in one!! This was the absolute best!

  • @tenzinwangchuk4469
    @tenzinwangchuk4469 Рік тому +20

    With 16M views and almost 13k comments appreciating the content and also the fact that there is not even a hint of hatred in the comment section speaks volumes, Proud to be a Bhutanese

  • @Puchacz83
    @Puchacz83 4 роки тому +2994

    Most airfields have ILS - Instrument landing system to navigate through approach pattern... Paro in Bhutan has MLS - Monasteries Landing System to keep planes on proper approach track.

    • @ganarubben4829
      @ganarubben4829 4 роки тому +33

      PoorHootz haha nice

    • @iPoriel
      @iPoriel 4 роки тому +38

      Ah ah ! :-) But maybe you know that MLS also exist :-)

    • @123fockewolf
      @123fockewolf 4 роки тому +34

      MLS is a microwave landing system its like a portable ILS

    • @ganarubben4829
      @ganarubben4829 4 роки тому +13

      Maxime Poriel i know that bro chill

    • @goldmanmartinez2678
      @goldmanmartinez2678 4 роки тому +8

      Best comment ever Lmao.

  • @pranaybanga693
    @pranaybanga693 3 роки тому +492

    The captain is the sweetest and the most humble man! What an amazing man!

  • @Amar-yj2wc
    @Amar-yj2wc Рік тому +145

    Fun fact :-
    Only 10 pilots from the world have licence to landing in Paro.
    Now u can imagine how much tough and dangerous too at same time.
    Wht kind skill, experience and ball of steel u need!!
    Hats off to pilot 🙌✈️👨‍✈️

    • @NimPlaysRoblox
      @NimPlaysRoblox Місяць тому

      its 15 actually not tryna be mean 😅😅

    • @odzergaming
      @odzergaming 21 день тому

      ​@@NimPlaysRobloxits actually 23

    • @mirawenya
      @mirawenya 2 дні тому

      Wonder if anyone lands there at night or during difficult wind conditions.

  • @jacquelineoreilly8555
    @jacquelineoreilly8555 Рік тому +102

    Took this trip about 15 years ago…the most beautiful amazing country in the world….this flight was amazing and our pilot pointed out Mt Everest as we passed it….so grateful to Bhutan and it’s people

    • @MrGrandure
      @MrGrandure Рік тому +1

      I worked with a guy from there. He said they eat aloy of Currys

    • @sagaradhikari7906
      @sagaradhikari7906 Рік тому +2

      Mount Everest is in Nepal, how come you saw it from Bhutan ? No flights goes to Bhutan using Nepal’s air route ! You might have seen different mountain

    • @jacquelineoreilly8555
      @jacquelineoreilly8555 Рік тому +5

      @@sagaradhikari7906 Actually I flew from Kathmandu to Bhutan and we passed Mt Everest en route

    • @SuperAlpha74
      @SuperAlpha74 6 місяців тому

      This entire video is of flight from Kathmandu to Paro… which video were you watching 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️?

    • @jacquelineoreilly8555
      @jacquelineoreilly8555 6 місяців тому +2

      @@SuperAlpha74 ..perhaps not a super alpha after all😅😅😅this video shows the approach ..I was on the plane for the entire trip🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @joelei4179
    @joelei4179 4 роки тому +1862

    Captain: You can see there are a lot of monasteries here. Look, another one!
    Sweating cameraman: Can you please just focus?

    • @Ad-bs9zo
      @Ad-bs9zo 4 роки тому +55

      Hahaha.. Exactly.. He didn't say anything at that point.. 😂 😂

    • @globalautobahn1132
      @globalautobahn1132 4 роки тому +30

      I was thinking the same thing. Like ok sir, I don’t want to get in your way please focus on the landing.

    • @ADAKAR83
      @ADAKAR83 4 роки тому +25

      Cameraman: Stop talking about God and Monasteries ! You just prayed for landing! You are the pilot ! BRACE BRACE BRACE !

    • @SharkbaitOhLala
      @SharkbaitOhLala 4 роки тому +98

      "That's the monastery that will handle our funerals if we crash."
      Cameraman: What

    • @scorpio3722
      @scorpio3722 4 роки тому +1

      😂😂😂

  • @imranfaizal672
    @imranfaizal672 5 років тому +2126

    Well experienced pilot,, hats off too him and its credibility.

    • @user-xq2fz5tz9t
      @user-xq2fz5tz9t 5 років тому +18

      After seeing so many air crash investigation videos, I kept on thinking they're gonna crash !!!

    • @hammadfarman8431
      @hammadfarman8431 5 років тому +3

      @@user-xq2fz5tz9t lol

    • @barneyquinn3657
      @barneyquinn3657 5 років тому +8

      Except for one flaw! He has fallen for the global warming fraud, now stealthily rebranded as 'climate change'. Clearly, he hasn't seen the BBC documentary The Great Global Warming Swindle even though it's now on UA-cam!!!

    • @gabrielneves1970
      @gabrielneves1970 5 років тому

      @@jean-paulvanewijk1810 hehehehe

    • @alaincostan3892
      @alaincostan3892 5 років тому

      Jean-Paul van Ewijk lol😂 a good one. Cheer!🙂

  • @250mamabear
    @250mamabear Рік тому +37

    I've taken this flight from Delhi, and didn't realize how scary it really was, until they took us to a hilltop and let us watch other planes landing in Paro. amazing!

  • @drats1279
    @drats1279 2 роки тому +18

    What an amazing approach. The Captain negotiated that approach like it was second nature for him. Cool, calm and professional. Very beautiful plane, inside and out, flight attendants, and airport. WOW

  • @AmitSharma-cg7qr
    @AmitSharma-cg7qr 4 роки тому +752

    This is probably most beautiful, most interesting video in Aviation History. Special mention for the Pilot for his amazing skills & humility. You made Bhutan so proud.

    • @labrador1992
      @labrador1992 4 роки тому +2

      Amit Sharma well said

    • @EagleEyekiller
      @EagleEyekiller 4 роки тому +7

      amazing video. I watched it twice, and i am not a piolet or have any interest. its just an amazing approach to that airport

    • @joeboi1342
      @joeboi1342 4 роки тому +1

      EAviation hurt me

    • @eaviationatyul9603
      @eaviationatyul9603 4 роки тому +1

      @@joeboi1342 ...

    • @KC_Smooth
      @KC_Smooth 4 роки тому +3

      Also the flight attendant and the cake!

  • @suntzu8014
    @suntzu8014 5 років тому +353

    The Bhutanese pilot was amazing just like the land of Bhutan.
    Love from India.

    • @DRUKPAVIDEOS
      @DRUKPAVIDEOS 5 років тому +14

      Thanks you. Its me from Bhutan

    • @AnilKumar-ey5yb
      @AnilKumar-ey5yb 5 років тому +12

      Yeshi lhendup
      We always think India and Bhutan were best friends forever
      There is no end for this like universe
      Love from INDIA

  • @DannieGemz
    @DannieGemz 10 місяців тому +19

    Not only an amazing flight, really though brought a tear to my eye of how amazingly kind the people where, flight crew, the pilot, truly an adventure to remember

  • @eddyfong6486
    @eddyfong6486 2 роки тому +72

    I've just come back to this superb upload in April 2022, and so glad I did. The visuals and informative commentary en route are excellent - 5 of the 6 tallest peaks on our planet is hard to beat! The entire crew are kind, generous, knowledgeable and professional - kudos to Bhutan Airlines, you do your nation proud and I can think of some national carriers that could learn from this upload. But at the end of the day it is the Chief Pilot, Captain Chenga, that makes this cockpit experience so memorable. He is, as other commenters have said, a total "badass pilot". His knowledge of local landmarks to the metre, the ease with which he navigates that incredible approach - entirely visual - and his total professionalism entwined gentle humility is second to none.
    Via this niche selection of cockpit movies, I have seen countless landings at amazing locations. Captain Chenga is one of the best pilots in the world.
    Respect and best wishes. 🙏

  • @mikeyreactsnow
    @mikeyreactsnow 4 роки тому +157

    I just love this captain. You can see the delight he feels talking about and showing us the various mountains and monastries. He is just awesome

    • @x_isaka
      @x_isaka 4 роки тому +1

      he advertise better for Nepal 😂 Visit Nepal 2020🖒

  • @Donegal513
    @Donegal513 4 роки тому +320

    You can tell how much the captain loves his job. That guy is an amazing representative for his airline and nation.

    • @Sensei-Gio
      @Sensei-Gio 4 роки тому

      Real true brother

    • @forgetmenots3474
      @forgetmenots3474 4 роки тому +1

      allowing irrelevant personnel into the cockpit is not amazing representation of airlines. Imagine flying airliners where passengers are allowed into cockpit. U d be scared to death for you never now who just got in.

    • @thomas.leitner
      @thomas.leitner 4 роки тому +14

      @@forgetmenots3474 Sounds like: Sam: "Knock, Knock." Captain: "Who is there?" - Sam: "I am a UA-camr, I just stick some cams into the cockpit and take the jump-seat." Captain: "Ok". And they always have cake prepared for such case. :-D
      Don't worry, this doesn't work like that. As you might figure, you need to be checked and authorized by the >>airline

    • @mellowmonsoon278
      @mellowmonsoon278 4 роки тому +4

      forgetme nots idiot , there are special cases under special permission you let. It was not captains decision, it was a pre approved decision by big bosses of the airline. This dude even had access to cockpit of Qantas.

    • @goldmanmartinez2678
      @goldmanmartinez2678 4 роки тому +1

      Mellow Monsoon hey good information provided but, as you might know. some of this assholes will
      Never understand the procedures required to have access to such privilege. Obviously this guy is recognised as well all over the Internet as a UA-camr or a public figure in his country.

  • @pbr2805
    @pbr2805 9 місяців тому +23

    I have flown to Paro many times on my B-737-800 simulator and the most difficult landing is flying past RW 33 and then circling clockwise
    to RW 15. That is truly the most difficult landing in a large commercial jet. This video shows landing to RW 33 without a circling. Great video!!!!

  • @prabalchoudhury2800
    @prabalchoudhury2800 Рік тому +24

    A thrilling, beautiful experience. My father had surveyed Bhutan during his service in Survey of India several decades ago and his team was a guest of honour of His Excellency the then King of Bhutan.

  • @dr.zoidberg4313
    @dr.zoidberg4313 4 роки тому +1257

    Check list:
    Flaps ✔️
    Gear ✔️
    Pray ✔️

    • @oopsitsagame1766
      @oopsitsagame1766 4 роки тому +1

      Spoiler dude

    • @dr.zoidberg4313
      @dr.zoidberg4313 4 роки тому +8

      @@oopsitsagame1766 Sorry, I didn't know you hadn't watched it yet.

    • @amateurdraw9524
      @amateurdraw9524 3 роки тому

      @@dr.zoidberg4313 that is actually 500iq jebait

    • @saifalmeftah5567
      @saifalmeftah5567 3 роки тому +2

      It’s flaps slats ailerons and gears

    • @harsh.sharma
      @harsh.sharma 3 роки тому +1

      OMFFFFG!!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @mathewlang5749
    @mathewlang5749 2 роки тому +652

    Videos like this are so important. The relationship you have developed within the industry for an airline and its pilots to enable you to share this with us is great. Thanks to Bhutan Airlines for giving us this view.

    • @FuNkYyBoY
      @FuNkYyBoY 2 роки тому +11

      agreed ! absolutely amazing view and makes me wish to visit Bhutan one of these days ! ... totally love this clip !

  • @sixfoursoul2538
    @sixfoursoul2538 Рік тому +11

    7:22 this is one of the best best views I have ever seen to understand how big Mt Everest is, it towers above even the highest clouds.

  • @robbysebala5389
    @robbysebala5389 9 місяців тому +7

    Sam: I cannot tell you how many times I've watched this video episode since subscribing to your amazing channel. Prolly going on 200 times now as of 8 July 2023. The Bhutani people are so sincerely warm, peace-inspiring, and so gracefully hospitable. I love that Capt. Chenga says his Buddhist prayer during the flight just prior to landing, much like asking permission to safely land back onto sacred Himalayan terra firma. Thank you for this episode. It is probably my favorite of all you have presented. :-)

  • @lashlarue7924
    @lashlarue7924 4 роки тому +487

    Hats off to that pilot. Very professional. Just remember: he does this every day like it's nothing. That is a lot of skill and responsibility!

    • @labrador1992
      @labrador1992 4 роки тому

      Lash LaRue well said

    • @grant575mixmaster
      @grant575mixmaster 4 роки тому

      apart from really bad cockpit skills.

    • @postingbmwm3
      @postingbmwm3 4 роки тому +2

      Jeff Vader what do you mean?

    • @grant575mixmaster
      @grant575mixmaster 4 роки тому +1

      @@postingbmwm3 no sterile cockpit, being a travel guide rather than focusing on the approach to a very difficult airport, you know all the things that get picked apart in one of those airline disaster shows.

    • @hodb3906
      @hodb3906 4 роки тому +8

      @@grant575mixmaster LMOA. No sterile cockpit, being a travel guide? He practiced that approach for years. He can practically fly it with his eyes closed on muscle memory alone I bet. Notice how the entire approach is manually flown. He knows what he is doing and is passionate about showing Sam the beauty of bhutan.

  • @TheRealLukeXD
    @TheRealLukeXD 3 роки тому +2400

    Note to myself: Remember to visit this airport in Microsoft Flight Simulator 2020

    • @prajwal_747
      @prajwal_747 3 роки тому +16

      Damn!!!!!!

    • @abhishekab1
      @abhishekab1 3 роки тому +2

      @@prajwal_747 Yo

    • @igor199545
      @igor199545 3 роки тому +5

      hell yeah!!

    • @Lance1972
      @Lance1972 3 роки тому +92

      Didn't you read? You have to be a Captain for ten years before you can land there. Even in MSFS2020😆👍🤔

    • @domenicevangelista5478
      @domenicevangelista5478 3 роки тому +22

      its one of the hand crafted ones too

  • @sajeevkumar3057
    @sajeevkumar3057 27 днів тому

    Nepal... and Bhutan.... People's.... Are very brave on wheels..... They are our best neighbour's,..... From, INDIA.... NAMASTE.. 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏❤️❤️

  • @madisonthecat88
    @madisonthecat88 Рік тому +10

    Great flight from Capt. Chenga and his co pilot! The view of the mountains and Mt. Everest is spectacular! Kudos to the crew.

  • @AlexWong
    @AlexWong 5 років тому +333

    Sam, you had the best seat on the plane! Enjoy Bhutan! Thank you for sharing your experience!

    • @SamChui
      @SamChui  5 років тому +23

      I was very lucky and really wanted to take advantage of this rare opportunity to document the whole flight.

    • @baybayonsincanada4474
      @baybayonsincanada4474 5 років тому +2

      While not a comfortable seat nor place on a plane, I agree this being the best seat having experienced the same. The landing part is just amazing! Thank you Mr. Sam!

  • @scottpecora371
    @scottpecora371 3 роки тому +502

    The captain exudes confidence, knowledge, ability, and humility. I immediately felt relaxed watching the video and would place my family lives in this man's hands. The brief prayer is a touch. Best of luck Captain Chenga.

    • @hochiminrodriguez5908
      @hochiminrodriguez5908 3 роки тому +6

      Couldn’t have said it better myself

    • @nancypresto1309
      @nancypresto1309 3 роки тому +4

      Humility is the greatest virtue. A salute to Capt. Chenga, Sir!

    • @melroymasca0852
      @melroymasca0852 3 роки тому +5

      I too felt relax and I enjoyed watching the video

    • @sadikmeah4057
      @sadikmeah4057 3 роки тому +1

      He has perfected it from years of fatal crashes but I take your point

    • @lalitadilipnaik5799
      @lalitadilipnaik5799 2 роки тому

      Lot of Respect Captain 🙏

  • @panthomromah1551
    @panthomromah1551 Рік тому +14

    Always do what u love and the things u r passionate about..just like sam and the chief captain..♥️🇵🇭

  • @SisterGrave
    @SisterGrave 23 дні тому

    Wow, I got chills when he turned off the GPWS and began that crazy technical approach. More chills when the runway came into view and I realized how uniquely difficult such a short, winding approach through mountainous terrain truly is. I fly the A320N and A346 in X-Plane, and I would never consider myself experienced or able to fly IRL, but flying an airbus by hand through this approach is absolutely a rare skill to master, especially with such a calm and clear headed demeanor. Hats off to Captain Chenga and his crew at Bhutan airlines. These pilots are one of a kind and I would be honored to fly aboard one of Captain Chengas flights into this amazing landscape.

  • @femanvate
    @femanvate 5 років тому +1571

    10:52 when Captain prays before starting the approach.....you know it's a difficult airport

    • @ernasabbel8762
      @ernasabbel8762 5 років тому +26

      Or the emperors final call... XD

    • @anirbandas4524
      @anirbandas4524 5 років тому +62

      **Butaniees are always very spiritual**.Beautiful country and buatifull people. Love from India.

    • @coronachinesevirus8808
      @coronachinesevirus8808 5 років тому +28

      femanvate
      There are a lot of monastery’s and since he’s a Buddhist he’s praying before reading there.

    • @Mike-01234
      @Mike-01234 5 років тому +4

      Can't hurt have a problem in those mountains no where to set it down except in at he airport

    • @howienyb4331
      @howienyb4331 5 років тому +2

      🥺

  • @larrygonzalez4375
    @larrygonzalez4375 5 років тому +758

    As an Airbus pilot myself, I thought real flying was long gone.
    Thank you for proving me wrong!

    • @khalidabdulghani
      @khalidabdulghani 5 років тому +5

      Larry Gonzalez what plane do you fly?

    • @erikjohansson1814
      @erikjohansson1814 5 років тому +17

      ColtDeltaElite10mm Flightsim much?

    • @MrGodofcar
      @MrGodofcar 5 років тому +1

      @M Ali a*, know*

    • @Bugy34
      @Bugy34 5 років тому +1

      well it's gone for you...you will never do this approach man ;) I fly biz jet anywhere, and I love it. no thks for airbus...

    • @ozsimmer6429
      @ozsimmer6429 5 років тому +9

      gatekeeping much?

  • @rztricky
    @rztricky Рік тому +21

    Sam I appreciate your politeness and positivity that you make certain to put forward. I’m sure you also have had bad days. Your content is a wonderful shared journey, but also a kind view into your active decision to practice, kindness.
    No bad vibes allowed!
    I appreciate you and hope meet some day in person.

  • @WatchDanReviews
    @WatchDanReviews Рік тому +11

    That’s amazing! What skilled flying.

  • @acrosstheworld001
    @acrosstheworld001 5 років тому +805

    Pilot: One monastery here, another there....meanwhile Sam thinking: please concentrate on landing I don't want to end up in mountain top. :)

    • @aarushyendamuri
      @aarushyendamuri 5 років тому +1

      Mrinal K Nath haha lmao

    • @ytypzic4821
      @ytypzic4821 5 років тому +1

      😂😂😂

    • @Tnbh987
      @Tnbh987 5 років тому +20

      Too experienced guy Bhutan Air pilots are and great skills,so nothing to worry, respect him and his feelings..

    • @SamChui
      @SamChui  5 років тому +122

      You're right. I stopped talking over that point! ;)

    • @Pluto-ic4dj
      @Pluto-ic4dj 5 років тому +6

      @@SamChui sam plz give ❤ to my comment

  • @mujjuuu
    @mujjuuu 4 роки тому +329

    That pilot is one of the most professional pilot that I have ever seen man that approach angle doe

    • @YouStillNeedToSleep
      @YouStillNeedToSleep 4 роки тому +4

      He seems to know every pointy mountain. He knows the area well. LOL

    • @fahrenheitfahrenheit2799
      @fahrenheitfahrenheit2799 4 роки тому +4

      Pilot very experienced. I am scared to even imagine , how’s going landing in bad weather condition.

    • @anonymouse7379
      @anonymouse7379 4 роки тому

      @@fahrenheitfahrenheit2799 I don't think they allow flights in bad weather

    • @AmineMecifi
      @AmineMecifi 4 роки тому +3

      @@fahrenheitfahrenheit2799 It's a VFR only approach and departure. Actually they don't have a published SID. They need to fly visual to leave the airport area.

    • @evs251
      @evs251 3 роки тому

      He's not following sterile cockpit rule so I wouldn't say the most professional

  • @19deltascout43
    @19deltascout43 Рік тому +16

    Nepal and Bhutan some of the kindest greatest people on earth

  • @kaiserinisla
    @kaiserinisla Місяць тому

    How exciting! How skilled these pilots are! Amazing video and amazing scenery!

  • @garydunken7934
    @garydunken7934 2 роки тому +292

    Respect to the Bhutan Air pilots. Not easy to fly a plane in such an environment and make landing approaches like they did.

  • @SRMkay
    @SRMkay 3 роки тому +865

    Bhutan Airlines: Meal on a 40 minute flight
    Spirit Airlines: One drink on a 10 hour flight

    • @downsouthrailroad9143
      @downsouthrailroad9143 3 роки тому +46

      And that one drink is $20 lol

    • @fatih159
      @fatih159 3 роки тому +42

      it would actually be your last meal, that's probably why..

    • @zarifatif3463
      @zarifatif3463 3 роки тому +35

      Ive been to bhutan. Since sam has flown business class thats why he got a meal otherwise on a normal flight you would only get water, salted peanuts, a sandwich, and a drink. If you still concider that a meal tho

    • @facuigua12
      @facuigua12 3 роки тому +29

      @@zarifatif3463 Bruh, even that is way better like 90% of airlines.

    • @zarifatif3463
      @zarifatif3463 3 роки тому +1

      @@facuigua12 i guess

  • @michaelkaercher
    @michaelkaercher 7 місяців тому

    That Captain and Crew is doing a fantastic job. Great airmenship.

  • @yegi6207
    @yegi6207 Рік тому +2

    What a beautiful plane, amazing scenery and kind crew. Bhutan looks amazing... must have been a memorable journey.

  • @lordtona010
    @lordtona010 4 роки тому +1595

    No wonder they are just 8 certified pilot to fly to these country. Respect hat off

    • @alanlts
      @alanlts 4 роки тому +37

      Is this true? Only 8?

    • @zackviccaji6342
      @zackviccaji6342 4 роки тому +23

      @@alanlts yes

    • @lordtona010
      @lordtona010 4 роки тому +7

      Absolutely yea

    • @abhishekbasu6406
      @abhishekbasu6406 4 роки тому +4

      Yes... only 8

    • @abhishekbasu6406
      @abhishekbasu6406 4 роки тому +57

      Another aspect to be taken in mind that mountain air are unstable, so they have keep that in mind too.

  • @ddb5736
    @ddb5736 4 роки тому +267

    This was amazing. Both the landing and the extremely friendly attitude of this incredible pilot. Wish more people were like this.

  • @reachbad
    @reachbad 11 місяців тому +2

    Have seen this video a few times before, each time I enjoy watching. Thanks to Cpt Chenga, his description of the terrain and beautiful way of piloting makes all the difference. Compliments to the entire crew and the scenic country.

  • @oldschoolgaming4303
    @oldschoolgaming4303 Рік тому +1

    Appreciatin' all the great pilots out there ! Appreciatin' all the works and dedication for aviation, it's never an easy job.. Salute !

  • @BkSrivastava
    @BkSrivastava 3 роки тому +743

    Dear Sir, I appreciate the beautiful and enchanting video regarding the challenging flight from Kathmandu to Paro Airport. I am B K Srivastava, a former official from the Airports Authority of India and presently working as an Aviation Consultant in New Delhi. In this context, I would like to offer one small but very important suggestion. In the sub-titles appearing at time 09:50 onwards, it is mentioned as 'viewer'. The right word is VOR and not 'viewer'. The Captain is repeatedly mentioning the word 'VOR' (VHF Omni Range), which is a Radio Navigational Aid and is used for route guidance for the flights. Incidentally, I had gone to Thimpu and to Paro Airport in 1989-90 to designing the route chart for Paro Airport.

    • @pranithapranitha8851
      @pranithapranitha8851 3 роки тому +18

      Great information

    • @banib7138
      @banib7138 2 роки тому +9

      Sir the word is negligible

    • @preetamkini2568
      @preetamkini2568 2 роки тому +32

      Shrivatsava sir, having so many decades of aviation experience is only trying to educate the viewers guys! 👍👍

    • @andyfrancke3557
      @andyfrancke3557 2 роки тому +5

      Use the "report" feature to tag inaccurate captions (you can then specify "inaccurate captions" as a subcause).

    • @Max-pw7rl
      @Max-pw7rl 2 роки тому +43

      I have never seen a more polite comment than yours

  • @Thegaoat
    @Thegaoat 4 роки тому +198

    The birds eye view at the end really put into perspective how dangerous it was!

  • @RyngKatBaDPhiTogetherwithYou
    @RyngKatBaDPhiTogetherwithYou 11 місяців тому +1

    I love the capt attire, white shirt and yellow tie that's matching as always.

  • @MB031
    @MB031 Рік тому +1

    Wow. no runway visual until last turn and pilot is calmly pointing out scenery ..that's nerves of steel and extreme skills !!!

  • @evadevries2952
    @evadevries2952 5 років тому +528

    Blazing through canyons at 1000ft, no airport in sight, and the Capt is pointing out monasteries. That's one cool Cat.

    • @sadiaadil6423
      @sadiaadil6423 5 років тому +16

      Ikr? As someone who is phobic to flying,I wudnt be found flying into Paro,ever.If I were,I would be sedated and tied to the last seat on the plane to keep everyone else calm 😑.If I were to fly over this terrain conscious,I think I would have to be peeled off the seat upon landing...would be hanging on to seat 😑

    • @bloom6124
      @bloom6124 5 років тому +2

      @@sadiaadil6423 Showboating

    • @randyporter3491
      @randyporter3491 4 роки тому +10

      Well said Eva ! It’s like he’s in a blind canyon, under 1000ft, going 200 mph and saying “Good afternoon ladies and gentlemen, if you look out the right, you’ll notice the third of five monasteries and then immediately on our left you’ll see monastery four, high on the mountain.....” LOL! 😂🤣 I guess the prayer worked, because he was cool as a cucumber.

    • @quickdeuce
      @quickdeuce 4 роки тому +6

      My thoughts exactly. As they said, a pilot MUST be Captain with 10 or more years experience or they're not allowed to fly into that airport. Most ecellent and WOW, what a wonderfuly beautiful country. I wish I could visit there and of course I would want no other than Captain Chenga as the pilot of the aircraft I was on.

    • @pushpushlambert8079
      @pushpushlambert8079 4 роки тому +2

      And that ain't no Cessna ....

  • @bren2106
    @bren2106 4 роки тому +440

    I've done this approach on FSX. It's actually pretty easy....after you crash 500 times first.

    • @Ezlixir
      @Ezlixir 4 роки тому +4

      But in real life its different

    • @bren2106
      @bren2106 4 роки тому +60

      @@Ezlixir lol I think you missed the end of my comment

    • @Ezlixir
      @Ezlixir 4 роки тому +12

      @@bren2106 *momment of silence*

    • @comradecat1859
      @comradecat1859 4 роки тому +10

      @@Ezlixir r/whoosh

    • @benos4x4adventures49
      @benos4x4adventures49 4 роки тому

      LOL

  • @aky19832001
    @aky19832001 7 місяців тому

    I didn't think they'd stop. That was perfect.

  • @brianvittachi6869
    @brianvittachi6869 Рік тому +1

    An amazing pilot. Flying by sight. What a beautiful approach too.

  • @Charvak-Atheist
    @Charvak-Atheist 4 роки тому +100

    I spent 2 years of my childhood in Bhutan including studying in Bhutanese school.
    That was most beautiful period of my life.
    Thanks Bhutan

    • @daleval2182
      @daleval2182 3 роки тому

      Make money, then return, life is too short, to not lo e where your happiest, I'm not rich, but I live on the land that I'm my happiest

  • @Alex-sv1tt
    @Alex-sv1tt 4 роки тому +807

    Pilot: Altitude?
    Co-Pilot: 28000 ft
    Airplane: Terrain!! Terrain!! Terrain!!

    • @BryanLopezProductions
      @BryanLopezProductions 4 роки тому +3

      time stamp?

    • @nutsbutdum
      @nutsbutdum 4 роки тому +71

      @@BryanLopezProductions That was a joke. He's just saying that a cruising altitude of 28000 ft which would be normal in any other circumstances, triggers an terrain alarm once you are in the Himalayas.

    • @BryanLopezProductions
      @BryanLopezProductions 4 роки тому +2

      @@nutsbutdum I figured the plane blasted a message saying that and I missed it lol

    • @asiaflyer3285
      @asiaflyer3285 4 роки тому

      What Number --:--

    • @tghub6113
      @tghub6113 4 роки тому +3

      It's just because of mountains

  • @oldmandrake
    @oldmandrake Рік тому +8

    Thank you so much Sam. That was like landing at our small town airport up here in the mountains, but in a big plane! Wonderful diplomatic friendliness, building bridges. :)

  • @LoveStallion
    @LoveStallion Рік тому +4

    Pilots must love this.
    I know some pilots who fly into DCA regularly, and many of them get a kick out of the windy route near the end that follows the Potomac because you can't fly over DC itself.
    This takes that practice to a whole other level.

  • @wiranurmansyah
    @wiranurmansyah 4 роки тому +2281

    10:52 Landing checklist : Pray 🙏🏻

  • @bharatmishra250
    @bharatmishra250 3 роки тому +125

    Bhutan is a beautiful country ....many of us think that why there Bhutan didn't have any skyscrapers ....bcz they did not demolished Thier natural beauty.......hill, forest.....❤️ Love Bhutan 🇧🇹 from India 🇮🇳

    • @ciprianbadau9842
      @ciprianbadau9842 3 роки тому +3

      I did not think why they don't have skyscrapers, as no one ever demolished an entire hill to build skyscrapers, lol.

    • @clu7chbae132
      @clu7chbae132 3 роки тому +5

      And no border too
      We dont have borders
      Indian and Bhutans love 💘🌚

    • @Quotenwagnerianer
      @Quotenwagnerianer 3 роки тому +3

      Of course there are skyscrapers in Bhutan. They build monastery's on them.
      Other people call them "mountains". ;)

    • @carolinegonsalves9150
      @carolinegonsalves9150 3 роки тому +1

      @@Quotenwagnerianer Queen

    • @ThatSB
      @ThatSB 3 роки тому

      Its because they dont have money

  • @oneworld381
    @oneworld381 Рік тому +1

    I love Bhutan. love from Nepal.

  • @felichia808
    @felichia808 Рік тому

    Amazing piloting!
    Bhutan! Beautiful country ❤️
    Thank you for sharing!

  • @shaileshneupane8215
    @shaileshneupane8215 3 роки тому +621

    Not only the pilots,every single people of bhutan are friendly and familiar. Love and respect from Nepal 🇳🇵❤️

    • @davemonk
      @davemonk 3 роки тому +15

      Agree! Such beauty. The land and the people are a beauty to behold. The views in the video are majestic.

    • @hiraratnabajracharya6436
      @hiraratnabajracharya6436 3 роки тому +6

      very amaging and advanture landing

    • @chimigyeltshen8587
      @chimigyeltshen8587 3 роки тому +1

      @@davemonk vvvv

    • @whitezombie9131
      @whitezombie9131 3 роки тому +4

      To all friends from all over the country...
      We bhutaness people love you and pray for you good helth and bless life🙏🙏

    • @madhukardhanurkar6815
      @madhukardhanurkar6815 3 роки тому +1

      L
      L
      L

  • @slobodanreka1088
    @slobodanreka1088 4 роки тому +134

    10:34 "You can see the airfield just now -- now you can't see it. You see the airfield only at the last minute."
    Such a comforting thing for a pilot to say.

  • @lakewoodil
    @lakewoodil 2 роки тому +2

    What a great video and total respect to the flight deck and cabin crew. Sam, sharing the cake with the crew was a wonderful thing to do.

  • @muays4224
    @muays4224 Рік тому

    Wow, this is one of the precious videos to see Mt Everest and top of other mountains from above. Thank you Sam

  • @niallash2315
    @niallash2315 3 роки тому +48

    Never watched or seen such polite people on a plane shame every flight isn’t the same

  • @harshsharma1741
    @harshsharma1741 3 роки тому +1452

    Pilot has upsc level mountain knowledge

    • @ayushbisht5510
      @ayushbisht5510 3 роки тому +22

      God level

    • @VinayGowda
      @VinayGowda 3 роки тому +11

      Lol I was also upsc aspirant once so I can correlate 😄😄😁😀

    • @thlamuana2526
      @thlamuana2526 3 роки тому +2

      Hahahaha That's very relatable

    • @SHIVAMTIWARI-eu1xh
      @SHIVAMTIWARI-eu1xh 3 роки тому +1

      😅😅

    • @sudiptaadak7712
      @sudiptaadak7712 3 роки тому +27

      I loved how he folded his hands towards his holiness (LORD BUDDHA/RINPOCHE/I dont know). This gratitude of the bhutanese people towards their culture sets them apart from the rest of the world.

  • @briangoldy8784
    @briangoldy8784 Рік тому

    Captain is a Beast.......Very cool,,,,,,man........The Flight Attendents are Gorgeous.....Girls are beautiful........The Flight scenery was breath Taking..

  • @flapjackson6077
    @flapjackson6077 11 місяців тому +1

    That captain is a boss! Perfectly executed landing!

  • @jagraj777
    @jagraj777 5 років тому +269

    I've a seen one of the best friendly or experienced pilot ever

  • @bayezidhtanu2907
    @bayezidhtanu2907 5 років тому +103

    The captain is so Kind and humble ! Love from Bangladesh to all my Bhutanese Brothers and Sisters . Hope to visit this beautiful land one day ❤️❤️❤️
    And that LANDING ! Breathtaking .

  • @chrishan9138
    @chrishan9138 Рік тому +1

    That approach and landing was spectacular. What a pilot.

  • @godwillpulesnr9635
    @godwillpulesnr9635 2 роки тому

    This is the best ever Captain. Very relaxed and calm. Salute Captain. Thanks

  • @ibrahimdiiriye2180
    @ibrahimdiiriye2180 4 роки тому +218

    The pilot deserve double paid for his career and tour guiding

  • @afsanbulbul
    @afsanbulbul 5 років тому +55

    The captain was too friendly. Such a humble and knowledgeable person

  • @harveyhalloway
    @harveyhalloway 8 місяців тому

    Skilled flying, great to watch, thanks for posting & greetings from the UK!

  • @soumyadipdutta5560
    @soumyadipdutta5560 Рік тому

    Sam you won our heart, always be so kind, world has lack of kind people. Kudos to that Pilot, the way he explain is just extraordinary.

  • @alltvkahitano2547
    @alltvkahitano2547 4 роки тому +113

    These pilots are the best in the world. Only those with special skill and ability can fly to this mountainous area. Good job Bhutan.

    • @judd_s5643
      @judd_s5643 4 роки тому +1

      It’s a different skill set. These guys are no different than Alaskan Bush pilots except they do it with very big planes.

  • @sayanshit531
    @sayanshit531 3 роки тому +751

    Have you ever seen mt everest?
    Pilot: offcourse, I see daily, from my window

    • @8dstrain
      @8dstrain 3 роки тому

      🤣🤣

    • @furqanelahie6552
      @furqanelahie6552 3 роки тому

      🤣😂😂😂

    • @8dstrain
      @8dstrain 3 роки тому

      @Ilya Lychkou 😆😆

    • @purplerabbit638
      @purplerabbit638 2 роки тому +2

      Him laughing at all the climbers. Ha! I can see the tip in comfort of my seat!

  • @Vatastudios
    @Vatastudios Рік тому

    wow the captain super friendly and amazing ,super gifted.

  • @dilbagsingh3359
    @dilbagsingh3359 Рік тому

    Captain Pray Before landing.. It so touched... Spectaculer landing

  • @Veyronp87
    @Veyronp87 3 роки тому +232

    what in insane approach!! literally snaking through the valleys and dont see the runway until last minute. incredible skill and courage by pilots

    • @MirkoReckhard
      @MirkoReckhard 3 роки тому +4

      Yeah, I was thinking, where is that runway?

    • @astev52
      @astev52 2 роки тому +2

      That's exactly what I was thinking, that was just insane! Incredibly impressive.

    • @tima.478
      @tima.478 2 роки тому +1

      @@astev52 As a CH53-E crew chief In the Marines, we called this, "surfin' & turfin' "

    • @nelenele246
      @nelenele246 2 роки тому +1

      @@tima.478You can hover, so it's easy for you... But with the comercial airline it's a different story.

    • @tima.478
      @tima.478 2 роки тому +2

      @@nelenele246 yeah, it's def a different story for fixed wing...

  • @sudeezudee9666
    @sudeezudee9666 3 роки тому +126

    The pilot is simply amazing. He's so nice and very accommodating.

  • @atiku_7776
    @atiku_7776 6 місяців тому +1

    Bhutan A319 looks Great

  • @stryke325
    @stryke325 Рік тому +1

    Probably one of the most skilled pilots I’ve seen to date.