1984 Garfield Cadets - Americas Best Marchers - DCI Documentary
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- Опубліковано 11 вер 2024
- 1984 Garfield Cadets Drum and Bugle Corps
Americas Best Marchers - DCI Documentary featuring the Garfield Cadets
This short shows members travling on buses, rehearsal footage, and other drum corps during the 1984 DCI finals. Also includes interviews by former Corps Director George Hopkins, members of The Garfield Cadets, and staff. Special appearance by George Zingali during the retreat award ceremony.
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To the wonderful person that posted this I thank you from the bottom of my heart. Not a day goes by that I don't think of this time in my life and the blessings that came from the best staff ever as well as corps members that I'll never forget. For Holy Name Shall Always be.
I'm so happy it brought so much happiness! Thank you for the nice comments!
I remember when the church dropped their sponsorship. They pour white shirts and white pants and hats to simulate Scout house from Canada they had a transition uniform with silk blouses and the regular Garfield pants, they were marching in a parade on 5th Avenue I remember, I was just a spectator for that particular parade. You can hear them down the street playing their street beat that was recognizable, most drum course had their own street beat you can distinguish who was calling before you even saw them. Anyway the crowd around me somebody yelled out what the f is that, they were referring to after the roll off the sound of the bugles playing I don't recall the number they were playing, but it was obvious that it was not a marching band it was something unique and different that they never heard before the people around me were beside themselves witnessing, probably that first Real Drum and bugle Corps they went nuts, and that made me so excited because at that time I was a member of the Floyd Bennett golden eagles from Brooklyn New York. That no longer happens. It was a great memory I can still visualize it like it was yesterday.
I remember those days it was so amazing. I sure miss it.💜❤💜✌
Thanks for posting this! My rookie year...I was 15 years old, and now so sad now that the Cadets are no more. FHNSAB!
Fantastic. Thank you for finding that gem. I've never outgrown those memories.
My Pleasure! Thanks for the comment!
At the 5:19 mark....George Zingali congratulating the Age Out!
Must have been an amazing experience to listen, watch, and learn from him.
One of the drum majors is now my band director and it's always cool to see documentary's and seeing him
WOW! That is so cool!! Lucky students!
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The same here first time I'm saying this video, thank you for posting it. Brings back great memories today is October 8th 2022. I started and drum corps back in 19 56, with the olph ridge men, I played snare drum, from 1956 through 1959. Then I joined the Floyd Bennett golden eagles in 1960 and 1961, did not compete in 62 due to a right hand injury, that would not allow me to compete on a competitive level. After I turned 21 I joined the Long Island sunrises in 1964 through 1968. I still want to be part of the Drumline so I decided I would play symbols, but not just any symbol player, I mentioned to John Sasso who became a good friend of mine, may he rest in peace. So myself and the other symbol player Bill Jenkins, we decided to buy the largest symbols we could, they were made by Pasty, and they had a lifetime warranty. The way we were using them we could not use regular symbol handles they were breaking. One of the members in the court had a machine shop, he made handles at a nylon that would handle the talk that we put on the symbols when we spend them, they worked out fantastic. Moe Knox, he was the Drum Corps photographer, for most Publications at that time. He gave us a nickname of the dynamic duo, imitated but never duplicated. In volume 2 of the Drum Corps history book, in the sunrise section, there's a photograph of the two of us, that was taken by Mr Knox, in 1966.
Wow...the memories came crashing in with this.....thanks for posting!
Happy to hear that!!! Thanks for watching!
A PRICELESS LIFE EXPERINCE!!!
When I saw this show in Nashville that summer,I knew the Cadets would win.
NOW you can call them a band.
Not really. Still no woodwinds.
@@brothaNblue Drumcorps today is nearly indistinguishable from marching bands in BOA competitions. And just wait, woodwinds are coming, I guarantee it. It's band, not drumcorps. That's okay. I will enjoy what I can until I can't stand any of the shows and then I will drop it.
@@justme5364 Indistinguishable? If you can't tell they don't have woodwinds, I don't know what else to tell you.
I agree with you 100%. In my opinion DCI is the reason for the demise of what was one of the greatest youth activities throughout the United States and Canada. We no longer have, Real Drum and bugle c o RPS. They've turned the activity into a marching band competition, superimposed on a three-ring circus.
@@brothaNblue I agree no Woodwinds yet, but they have electric guitars, trombones, trumpets, tubers, all sorts of pit instruments, amplifiers and microphones, singing and dancing, the drum lines play in the back, just like a marching band, a real drum corp the drum lines March in the front. Today they are absolutely marching bands. Need to change DCI, to read MBI, marching band International. Call it what it really is. Form a member of the Floyd Bennett golden eagles from Brooklyn New York, 1960 and 1961, and former member of the Long Island Sunrisers 1964 through 1968.
0:58. “Today some 80 corps tour…”. Back when making top twelve REALLY meant something!
And today, May 26th 2023, less than a dozen, that still compete, old-school drum and bugle Corps, in North America alone there were approximately 7,000,, about thirty to forty percent competed in marching and maneuvering competition the others were generally, for parades representing their sponsor in community, others did standstill competition as well as parades, the ultimate goal was to put a mulching and, maneuvering Corps, on the field at some point.
3:31 This did a better-albeit incomplete-job of showing company front than PBS did.
Given how awful 83-84 camera shot selection was, I'm STILL amazed I got the long camera pass I did in the 84 BD show!
No it didnt. Get your eyes checked
@@Mrtellitlikeitis Hey Mr. Disqualified: my eyes are fine. PBS cut to the pit instead of showing the front appear. I have watched those tapes hundreds and hundreds of times. Kindly fuck off.
I'm sorry, but when the "senior member' says you have to give it up, that's not true! I'm 58 years old and have been actively performing and competing with Senior/All-Age Drum & Bugle Corps for over 30 years! Typical DCI rhetoric that they are the end all/be all when it comes to the Marching Arts activity!! If you have the desire to perform, the opportunities are out there!!
Another thing that DCI did, that I totally dislike. They never encourage the kids after they would Age out to go on to a senior, drum and bugle Corps. When I was competing in junior Drum Corps, I could not wait until I turned 21 and would be eligible to compete in a senior Corps, as did most of the kids at one time. That's another reason why the activity went South. Senior drama bugle course back in I guess the late fifties through possibly early seventies mid-70s or much better than juniors, because when you turn 21 you joined a senior Corps all that talent and experience came with you. Plus having these Drum Corps go on tour for 2 months at a time is ridiculous in my opinion. In the New York metropolitan area, in a single weekend there were approximately two three possibly even Four competitions, that you could drive to within an hour or two. Plus the drum course didn't have major expenses for traveling purchasing buses maintenance housing food you name it, the dues back then were anywhere from a dollar a day, to maybe 10 or $20 for the season, and if you couldn't even afford that, the Drum Corps w o u l d, cover it. Today members are paying 4 plus $1,000 per season. It's no longer an activity for the Youth. I'm not even sure what the age limit is in the junior core these days probably in the early twenties or to mid-20s? I haven't kept up with it.
It's not DCI's job to push people to continue in DCA....there are jobs an family to get y'know. And DCA -- with rare exceptions like MBI or SoCal Dream -- is primarily a northeastern thing in the US...kinda hard for s western Sr corps to really make it. I was in SoCal Dream from 02-06 and it was always a fight just getting respect as performers.
@@samsignorelli I was a member of the, Long Island sunrises from 1964 through 1968, a good majority of the members were all married, many of them were professionals medical field doctors excetera, and most of the senior cords were far superior than you Juniors only because, the talent that came from the Juniors into the seniors, with all the experience behind them and training made the senior chords for better than most Junior course at the time. If DC I would have encouraged the kids to go on the senior course that came after DC I started, were excellent in the early days of DCA competition, and due to the lack of encouraging kids to go on DCA declined and its overall, performance and experience behind them. Just from your comments you apparently, quite Young when you were in the senior Corps in California at that point in time seniors were on a major decline due to lack of experience coming into them. Again the activity today is a marching band competition it is not a real drum and bugle Corps. Many people state that all we have to move on you know things change traditional Fife and Drum course have not changed and they are as good as, ever. Football and baseball have not changed for the most part, you don't see them walking around in tutus. And if you look at the number competitions in the season and the number of people in the audience, that speaks volumes. People are not that interested in a marching band, that has members from all over the country and out of the country as well. There is no Community Support whatsoever. Use ago when your local drum and bugle Corps marching a parade the crowd would come out to support them. As a member of the Long Island sunrise in 1967 we marched in the Macy's day parade New York, the following year 1968, we led the parade. That in itself was a great honor. Back in old school there were many drum and bugle Corps staff would March in the Macy Day Parade, people that hosted those parades on major networks, we're all in or, seen a real drum and bugle Corps, they receive so many more compliments than any marching band. The uniformity of style and the execution of the music was exciting oh, that would make the hair on the back of your neck stand up. This never happens today. And there's absolutely nothing wrong with a marching band, just call it what it really is. Today is May 26th 2023.
@@americanspirit8932 I was 38 when I started in Dream's charter year....not really that young.
There was no history of Sr corps west of the Mississippi to draw from. Dream, (Irvine) Renegades (San Francisco), and River City Regiment (Sacramento) always had a tough go of it...Renegades having it the easiest of the three due to the BD and SCV alums in the area, but they still struggled at times...and traveling to DCA as a huge financial burden.
That's the reality you are ignoring...
@@samsignorelli I am not ignoring anyting, in my opinion DCI is the reason for the demise of one of the greatest youth activities in North America. Yes they never encourage kids to join, a senior drum and bugle Corps. The demands they put on DCI competing, drum and bugle Corps, priced out thousands of Junior drum and bugle Corps throughout the nation. The average kid could not afford to go on tour I believe today it's up between four and $6,000 per season, not doable by the average middle-class family. When we head local drum and bugle Corps, supported by their community, sponsored by American Legion and VFW and Catholic churches they've organized they organized drum and bugle Corps has four kids that were not really that into sports, it kept the kids off the street, they learned teamwork how to get along with others from different backgrounds they learned music how the Martian maneuver and they learn discipline which is lacking in many, families. Consequently with no Junior drum and bugle Corps, guess what no senior drum and bugle Corps. If you can get ahold of the drum and bugle Corps history books volume 1 and 2, you will see the thousands of drum and bugle Corps throughout North America. On Any Given weekend, in the North East New York metropolitan New Jersey Connecticut Massachusetts oh, you had a choice of anywhere from two to maybe five or six competitions to attend, depending on distance, staying overnight or just a day trip and returning that night after the contest oh, there were more spectators, attending drum and bugle Corps competitions, ranked fourth above Major League Baseball. What does that tell you. The average person was into drum and bugle Corps, will it was just supporting them in the local parade adjust supporting them because they kids belong to the organization they learned about the organization do the fundraising throughout the year selling candy what-have-you, just like Boy Scout organizations in Girl Scout organizations. They were recognized they were respected. That's why you could not find a senior drum and bugle Corps, all stems down to DC I taken the activity from the general youth population and giving it to kids or, I questioned kids they're generally in their 20s, only privileged kids were able to join, soon after DCI, was organized and started. I went to Mount Saint Joseph Military Academy, I want structures came from West Point oh, we were just across the river they told us drumming and bugling that was in the mid-50s, then I was a member of the olph, Ridge men, from Brooklyn New York in the mid-50s through 1959, then joined Floyd Bennett golden eagles also from Brooklyn New York 1960 and 1961 oh, I had a right-hand injury at the start of 1962 could no longer compete, I joined a Long Island Sunrisers 1964 through 1968, still want to be part of the Drumline so I decided play symbols but it did not just want to be another symbol player. If you have the Drum Corps history books Volume 2 in the sun rises section oh, you will see my picture with the other symbol player, we will refer to as the, dynamic duo, given the nickname from, Moe Knox, it was the most popular photographer for the activity at the time many. Many other drum and bugle Corps has try to duplicate what we were doing, but we would imitated but never duplicated the heaviest largest symbols at the time we were out in front of the sun rises in competition 90% of the time, we led the Macy Day Parade in 1968 we were right out in front of the sun rises after the color guard. I had to move to Florida after a major surgery, I was the co-organizer in starting the American Spirit senior drum and bugle Corps, out of the Tampa Bay Florida area along with, John Dowling, may he rest in peace, he is the person who developed back sticking, he instructed many of the top Junior and senior drum and bugle Corps has in his day, he himself 14 national championships in the single day at the same competition. Never ever duplicated by anybody. First-place individual soprano soloist, first-place brass quartet, first-place individual snare drummer, first-place drum quartet, instructed and competed with the United States Air Force drum quartet. He produced, instructional recordings of all the rudiments various type drum solos both easy and very difficult, under the Fleetwood record label. You also published his own newspaper out of the Philadelphia area. We started American Spirit after I had, the longest spine surgery ever in the United States at the time 18 1/2 continuous hours and then an additional five and a half hours of surgery about a week and a half later due to a severe staph infection, we started American Spirit in 1992. Suncoast sound did nothing but badmouth us it was difficult to get members they said us old guys didn't know anything about the activity oh, we had members from Chicago Cavaliers, Norwood Park Imperials, Santa Clara Vanguard, New York Skyliners, Long Island sunrises Rochester Crusaders, Hawthorne Caballeros, Garfield Cadets, Floyd Bennett, golden eagles, Syracuse brigadiers and several other Tama Drum and bugle Corps, we were short-lived due to primarily Suncoast sound badmouthing us. Today is May 26th 2023. It was quite a while ago, but it seems like yesterday in many cases. Great memories and experience. Make all the former Real Drum and bugle Corps, rest in peace.
They’re not bands…. Too bad that can’t say that anymore….
Explain the Scout House Bugle Band, then.
@@MicahtheDrumCorpsPseudoboomer they were Canadian organization, the criminology was different than the United States, including their competition rules, my cousin was there drum major for several years, late 50s into the early 60s