From a $ 2.50 Screwdriver Ratchet to a Victorinox Venture ratchet…. Do that work?
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2023
- In this video I try to build a Victorinox Venture compatible ratchet that costs less than $ 3.
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Lol. That's prototyping for you. How boring would it be if everything we did worked right the first time? Great job Felix.
Thank you so much!
Some days you get the bear , some days the bear gets you.
Ja ja you’re human, but it’s very interesting know the mental process to get a solution. Thanks
I love that you are willing to show that you are like the rest of use. We all expect our best planned projects to work out but sometimes go a totally different way. It was a experiment.
Thank you so much for your kind comment!
@@FelixImmlerI was thinking the exact same thing as Diverson: I'm glad that you showed us the failure. Please don't say sorry.
All part of the learning curve. Well done Felix. Someone said, there are no mistakes, only happy accidents. Thanks.
Thank you very much!!
Someone = Bob Ross
Exactly! Good catch.@@mdsign001
Great video Felix,, as a wise man once said, there's no such thing as failure, it's just a stepping stone in the learning process,, 👍👍👍,, all the best my friend,,
This has to be my favorite video of your because you show the process, are honest and speak plainly. Keep living the dream! See you next Friday!
i dont know about where you live felix but here in the states you can buy hexagon stock cheap so you would not have to cannibalize your drill bits or hexagon wrenches are cheap too. and maybe try some jb weld in the hole to lock it in place. and if that works you could probably cut off those protruding sides to make it more compact as well.
Thanks a lot for your interesting comment!
Awesome as always. As soon as I receive my Venture Pro and Kit I’ll try to construct some cool DIY tools for it. 👍 Nice to see that even the professionals can have an off day. 😄
😄😄 Thank you very much!
Best videos! You have a great personality. Pleasure to watch even a fail.
Thank you very much!
Ach lieber Felix das macht dich so sympathisch das auch bei dir etwas nicht funktioniert aber trotzdem ein sehr lehrreiches Video du bist und bleibst der beste ❤❤❤❤
Dein Kommentar freut mich sehr ! Vielen Dank!
A failure is one step closer to perfection, my friend.
Thank you so much my friend!
I enjoyed the video and thought it was really nice of you to show how it failed. This is why I showed my fails on video so many times. Some people who watch youtube videos get demotivated seeing that they can't do it on the first try and somehow it always works "for the guy on the screen"(and his editing team) 🤣
I think, if you wanted to you could make it work. Drill a hole thru the body of the bit and insert a pin thru that hole and the ones which are already there in the ratchet, where the rivet was. that might not be a permanet solution as it would still move but if the sides of the pin rest on the margins of the larger hole...it might...
I am sure I am not telling you something you haven't thought about...and maybe thought: when is drilling too many holes too much?😏
I didn't wanted use tool what no one have in his workshop. It has to be a full hart metall drill to drill such a hole for a pin.
Even failures are educational. Ofttimes, they are more educational than success!
Thanks, Felix!
Thank you very much!
We learn by testing ideas. good idea. good efforts. Awesome video.
Thank you very much!!
I so much was waiting for rhis vodeo really. The Victorinox Venture os one of my best knives ever..ok Gerber Strongarm ist cool too, bit nit so versatile over all.
Great job, we learn more from a loss than we do from a win !
If you possess a welder, or have a friend who owns one.. then weld a 1/4" allen key in that gap, it will never fail !
You are right. Thank you!
Talking about the Victorinox ratchet that you show at the end. I have it since 2013. I used it as hard as any other high quality ratchet that i owned.
And it never failed on me
I use it at work on a daily basis.
And it held up longer than some higher end 6mm ratchets that i owned. It’s so light. It’s the only one i end up using
Thank you for showing the process. And as in all experiments you keep going. You are not afraid to show something that didn't work, YET. You only fail if you give up. And the Felix I know has never done that. Respect from your fiends in Florida USA
I am SO HAPPY to discover you are mortal! Seriously, you might try drilling a hole through the two tabs and the bit you used and tapping in a roll pin. Or just get the Victoinox ratchet
Thanks a lot for your kind comment and also for your idea!
Good job, Felix keep the ideas coming
Thank you!
Moin Felix!
Eine tolle Idee. Es muss ja nicht alles klappen. Sehr amüsant.
Es macht Dich nur sympathisch. Du wirst sicherlich noch eine Lösung finden!
Great video Felix. Can on win every battle 😊
I was expecting you to drill a hole through the bit and peg it in! Never mind . Nice project.
Cheers 👍🍻🍻🍻
Thank you so much!
quod erat demonstrandum. A super video. it must not always be shown only the working. That makes it very sympathetic.
Thank you very much!!
Great first attempt. If you can find something with a quarter-inch socket on one end and an oversized bit at the other end - then grind the oversized end down on two opposite sides so you have a long, flat quarter-inch piece of metal to fit right into the ratchet, similar to the Leatherman.
That's such a brilliant tip that I've already set up my workshop for tomorrow. Initially I was doubtful of Victorinox' Venture, but I bought one and it's been wonderful + I've long learnt *so much* from you! Many thanks Felix for your vids on this bushcraft knife and your excellent tip here. Have a great weekend! ~Wendi 🌻
Your comment makes me happy, thank you!
I, for one, very much enjoyed the journey, whether or not it was successful. 😊
Thank you very much!
Hallo Felix, die Idee ist schon mal gut und die richtige, funktionierende Umsetzung wird dir sicherlich auch noch gelingen! LG Micha
Great video, yet again, Felix. I wonder if this would work if you had access to a few more tools. Perhaps the cross hole, where the rivet was originally placed, could be tapped from each side and each could be fitted with a set screw/grub screw, whatever you call them over there, and they could be tightened against the hex shaft to help prevent it from turning. Along with that, maybe you could coat all the contact points on the hex bit with a good two part slow epoxy. That would take some of the strain off of the two side walls that you are depending on now to be the only driving surface for the hex bit.
Maybe surrounding the hex shaft with epoxy would be enough. Fill in the entire area between those plates that held the rivet so that you would be creating a long, two thirds epoxy and one third metal hex hole that is now contacting more of the bit.
One other idea would be to cut off the screwdriver tips of the bit, grind one end with a small amount of chamfer and simply drive it down into the 6MM hole and let the 6 corners cut as much of a hex hole as it can. That would grip at the corners a little bit, at least. I actually have some Allen socket sets that are clearly made by forcing the hex key stock into a round hole and forcing the hole to become hex shaped and grip the hex bit. That is probably done with great hydraulic force, but you would be dealing with softer metal, probably aluminum or zinc, so less force should be required.
Just some ideas. I know you can make this work. Too good of an idea to just give up on. Ciao!
You Have super ideas!!! Thanks a lot for your inspirations!!!
Buen video como siempre y trayéndonos más alternativas de los proyectos fallidos siempre se aprende donde está el error 😜 buen fin de semana amigo mío saludos 🇪🇦
¡Muchas gracias por tu amable comentario!
Hallo Felix,
😂😄 Sehr erfrischend, dass du ausnahmsweise deine Idee nicht umsetzen konntest. Es ist trotzdem nicht minder lehrreich und inserierend für mich gewesen🤗
Vielen Dank und bitte mach genau so weiter!
VG
Arno
Hallo Arno. Danke für deinen super netten Kommentar!
I like all yours tests.
Thank you very much!
haha - thank you, great video, even with a fail I enjoyed watching it.
Thank you very much!
Yup, stuff happens.. but it was a good idea and might lead on to other solutions. That Leatherman device is just too expensive though, and I dare to say the Victorianox one is pricy too (I’ll take a look in a minute). And thanks for showing a ‘fail’ now and again - that keeps the channel ‘honest’ at least. If the ratchet body is steel then a touch of weld would fix it of course, but I presume it isn’t steel so that won’t work. Hey! I still enjoyed watching you working it out. Thank you. Les in UK 🇬🇧
Thank you so much for your super nice comment!
Nice try, maybe tap for a short set screw next time ? Always enjoy your videos, thanks for all you do.
Good idea! Thank you
Thinking out of the box Felix,
Thank you!
There is no taste of success without failure!
Great episode
Thank you very much!
Die Grundidee finde ich super, auch wenn es nicht so funktioniert hat, wie erhofft. Es kann auch nicht gleich jede Idee auf Anhieb gelingen, das gehört eben auch dazu. Aber ich bin sicher, dir wird auch hier eine passende, geniale und funktionierende Lösung einfallen!👍👍👍 Danke für's Zeigen und liebe Grüße aus Wels!
Vielen dank mein lieber Freund!
Nice experiment, as always btw. I'd try to improvise kind of wedge. Good luck, waiting for new inspiring video.
Mein Tip... Schweißen Welding mit Elektrode oder Schutzgas
Absolut!!
An excellent attempt!
Thank you for showing the process, even if it didn't work in the end.
clever und gut vorbereitet. wie immer😀👍👍👍
Felix is human after all! 😄 I fully expect you to return to this problem with an improved solution.
Great that you show what doesn't work as well as what does! A roll pin through the hex bit, like a little wing, would keep it from turning all of the way. You'd still have a tiny bit of slack movement. I've had the Leatherman ratcheting bit for several years, so not an issue for me. It's very useful in the Leatherman tool.
Interessante..parabéns pelo vídeo.
Thank you very much!
Hi Felix, wäre ja auch geradezu beängstigend, wenn alles was Du anpackst, immer gelingen würde. Also alles gut und Erkenntnisse durch Deine Tüfteleien sind ja auch hilfreich und wertvoll! 👍LG
I love your attitude, Felix! And we learn more from our failures than our successes! I am sitting here thinking of ways to make your project work, which is a lot better than if it had worked the first time. Perhaps something as simple as a hose clamp around the assembly to hold pressure on the walls? Epoxy around the bit? A lot of food for thought here, thanks for the project! (Btw I have the Victorinox ratchet, and love it- extremely well made, and precise- but not sure I'd use it on something as big as the wood bit.)
i think you can add two inserts (even wood) on two sides of the bit so a overly convex surface can be formed for easy grip of the hose clamp
My grandfather was asked how he did the job better than the others. He respobded that he learnt from those people how do not do it.
Nothing wrong with showing a video of failure🙂
Thank you very much Daniel!
LOL!! This was great! Y'know, Felix... right where you drilled out that rivet, maybe you could drill through it again, and right through that bit as well? Then you could secure it from turning! Like, by inserting a section of a nail or something?
Good video Felix, thanks for sharing, God bless !
Thank you very much dear Michael!
You are on the correct way, choose a smaller drill, a shorter bit, and as a bonus, use a philips no 2 to be "up" then You could reverse the bit holder and use the ph2. And to strengthen the bit, use epoxi/jb weld/plastic padding/soldering/welding the contraption, but beware of to much heat.
Torx bit -use angle grinder and sharpen the tip in a spoon shape and shove it in that 5.5mm hole and it will make spline shaft-pull it out and use super glue and it will be solid.Also super glue sides as well.
Interesting even if these time it failed :)
Thx
Thank you very much!
You are pretty awsome Felix!
Thank you!
u should get an auger bit its much better than a flat drill bit i would recommend the Moretop Ship Auger Bit
Thanks for your hint!
Greetings from Canada and we truly enjoy your videos. This one is both very interesting to me and frustrating at the same time. I've lost the bit adaptor for my 25 year old Wenger Swissgrip and can't find anything to try and modify.
If you tapped some threads into the ears on each side of the torx bit you could then install a set screw on each side to tighten up against the torx bit.
Still a nice try and keep going for a solution.
Maybe have a look at the metal inside the Handle...good luck
Greatz from Germany
and have a nice Day
Felix is human!!! The enginuity was right on though. Could you drill a rivet through the hex bit to stop it spinning between the walls of the ratchet?
Thanks a lot for your idea!
you can take full sized tools with you and put them in a small organized bag.
Yes, you are right
Sometimes an 'expensive' accessory is 'less expensive' in the end. This seems to be a problem Victorinox and Leatherman have already solved for us. And we won't need a shop full of tools that seldom get used.
Thanks for your feedback!
Loved the video. I am sure that you will find a way....
Felix, you did for Victroinox (and for all of us) so much that they should make you a millionaire! And from my experience, it is always better to follow the paved way than to try to save some bugs, because it is mostly more expensive and takes much more time, which is better at weekends to spend in the nature than in a garage workshop!
Tap the sides with a screw size and then insert a screw to hold the tool bit in place.
JB Weld glue would fix the problem 👍
Thanks a lot for your tip
...still...NICE!!!
Thank you!
Look for a WoodRiver ratcheting screwdriver kit. It's designed to make your own hande, but in your case you could grind the insert end to 1/4 hex pretty easily. $5 seems reasonable to me as an experiment.
Hallo Felix, although this is not exactly referring to your video, I like to inspire you for a new video on the extra tool of the victorinox ranger. This tool is the "Holzmeißel" , wood chisel. I couldn't find any video on the "10 tricks with the wood chisel from you. Maybe you like this idea. Best regards.
Thanks for your idea!
I wonder if the Titan Micro Swivel-Head Ratcheting Bit Driver might make a suitable donor? There are aluminum and steel handle versions (I assume steel would be better for this). Maybe you could chop the handle down and drill out the center slight undersize, then pound a bit into it. The Titan MSRP is a bit high for a DIY project, but I often see it for sale for about $12-15.
Thanks for your interesting comment!
The Sealey AK6962 Bit Driver Ratchet at £14 works for me
Thanks for your tip!!!
There must be a way to pivot the screwdriver ratchet on the hex hole. Or, you might need to create an extender to move the pivot point away from the handle. Cheers!
if Victorinox made a tool like this, they would be printing money
Thanks for sharing Felix. Not a failure, not yet succeeded! Why can't you put a small roll pin or similar though the original rivet hole in the walls, might take a bit packing out to accommodate the size differences but role pins come in a range of sizes, and there's always a resin like araldite!
Die Rätsche machte die Grätsche. Aber so geht es jeden Erfinder. Gruß Karl.
Danke für deinen lustigen Kommentar!
Maybe use some JB weld to hold I in place.
Thanks a lot for your tip!
Give victorinox a hint. it's not like a ratched isn't a good idea also for swisstool and maybe even the SAKs themselves (think the Cybertool-Bit-Holder-thingy) ;-)
Felix, just a suggestion for you. Cut off the driver end of the part you were using and then go to the drill press and drill for a cross pin. If you use a long enough piece of material for the cross pin you can peen the pin down to fill the existing holes of the rachet.
Thanks a lot for your idea!
👍🏼good try Felix 😁
Thank you!
Steel epoxy works wonders
What a great idea!
❤ hello from British Columbia Canada
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Thank you!
Try to tighten these walls with bolts, you will get a kind of clamp.
Thanks for your tip!!!
"Every failure is fertilizer for success."
"„Jeder Misserfolg ist ein Dünger für den Erfolg.“
"Każda porażka jest nawozem do sukcesu."
Should have drilled a hole in the insert when it was installed and fixed it with a pin. It's not at all surprising that it rotated without a pin to hold it in position. You did widen the gap by drilling a round hole in it after all.
Thanks for your interesting feedback!
Felix, take a look at the Teng Tools RHA14 ratchet head. It might be what you’re looking for at a better price than the options. Les in UK 🇬🇧
You could improvise a cotter pin for the shaft to prevent turning.
It would be hard to drill through a hardened (presumably S2 tool steel) hex bit unless you also bought a carbide drill bit. Problem is, those aren't cheap and are easily broken if you attempt to use a hand drill.
Thanks for your tip!
Super Idee! Und Du hast nicht versagt.... geh zum Metaller Deines Vetrauens und laß Dir zwei Schweißpunkte setzen.... fertig! ;-)
Drill a hole rhrow the bit where the hole for the tilt was in the rachet is and secure the bit with a small bolt so it cant turn.
So the task is the next: Victorinox must produce a ratchet less expensive than Leatherman, and also compatible with the Swisstool toolkit.
I wondered if that was going to happen. I also wondered if you were going to epoxy it in.
I use for mtbiking the Topeak Ratchet...nice piece of equipment and I never had an issue with it. Not sure how it will hold up if you drill 20mm holes with it.
Greetings from Germany😊
Hi Felix, I have an adapter set for sockets to use in an impact driver and it includes 0.25 inch for small sockets, it's square drive. Maybe you could use something like that to drive a ratchet via the hex hole in the Venture? Good luck!
good video Felix, not everything goes perfect everytime ahaha it's not a problem and make it interesting.
How the Victorinox ratchet mecanism stand with all the pressure when the drill bit is deep in the wood?
Yes... it is strong enough!
Maybe use a 1/4” hex to a 1/4” square drive to start then epoxy it in place.
Maybe try welding it?
you are right!
Mini bit ratchet it’s called !!
The project works. It just needs some tweaking.
Take off the plastic handle of the screwdriver the metal shank inside might be the right size 🤔 just a suggestion. Good idea all the same. Best regards 👍
We usually learn as much or more from failures as successes. Good idea though.
Thank you very much!
You can allways driñl a hole across the drill bit and push a bar/pin that locks itself in the 2 "ears"...or Just cement it in the hole before pushing it in (there are phat resins, or "cold weldings" this days)...OR BOTH !!
I had a ratcheting thumb driver that I got from amazon Titan 11218 it was1/4 inch on one end and hex head on the other it comes with a phillips flathead and 1/4 inch extension. I took the bottle opener and saw off of an offbrand multitool and replaced them with a 1/4 inch driver to go on it. It works great. 3 for 11.00
Wowww, can you send me a link?
I'm very sorry I thought they were ratcheting but they are just thumb drivers with a female hex one end and 1/4 inch square.female
Fellix, why not to fix the bit, by drilling cross hole through the bit and bit holder and sticking there a steel rod of small diameter (1,5-2 mm)?! The position of the hole is near the big hole. Hope you understand my idea.