@@Zaymations-OFFICIALThe Dark Side Of The Force Is A Pathway To Many Abilities Some Consider To Be Unnatural." -Palpatine 🙃🤯🙀 Yeah, that blew my mind as well..😹😹😸
A pretty underrated duel is Kit Fisto VS Grievous in Clone Wars. That episode made me go from thinking Kit Fisto was just some guy to a really cool character
Kanan and Erza in their stormtrooper disguises holding lightsabers reflected the original concepts for Star Wars: A New Hope in the 1970s with stormtroopers holding lightsabers!
I remember the Yoda vs Dooku fight on opening night in the theater, everybody cheered. That was the first time us older guys finally got to see what Yoda was really capable of, after all those years of wondering.
My friends and I, who were seniors in high school at the time, were laughing so hard with glee and losing our minds when we first saw this in theaters. As you said, many fans only knew Yoda as a puppet for the last 20 years. This was the first time he was digital and we were not prepared. Also, there was no social media so the fight was never leaked or spoiled. When you went to the theater to see Attack of the Clones back in 2002, you were seeing Yoda and Dooku's duel for the first time on the big screen.
I give some credit to the duel between Obi-Wan and Vader in the death star because Is the first lightsaber duel in the franchise, an introduction to the concept
@@casparfangthe sound track and revenge from obi wan makes it great but anakin vs obi wan had high stakes probably the best choreography and the soundtrack was good
I love the emotion of the duel. But the duel itself is stupid, like multiple times they just swing the lightsabers like clowns without trying to hit one another or doing some batshit stupid stuff.
I think the vader vs. Obi wan at the end of obi-wan kenobi was epic. The rock throwing, the dialogue, it was so cool, like a continuatuon to the mustafar battle.
I loved it too. Obi Wan was still dealing with guilt and self doubt. Then he realized what was important and found his Jedi mojo again. I have seen lots of reactions to that dual and everyone goes crazy.
Also I think ranking the animated ones is lame as yeah you can make them do anything when it’s all computer wise. I do agree with the number one. That duel is actually the longest duel in movie history. And it actually was longer than what aired.
For the mace and sidious fight the OG choreography actually makes sense on why the jedi masters died so quickly because sidious was LIGHTNING fast in it and it wasnt a weird awkward pause with what we got
Yeah, he’s lightning fast then slow down when fighting windu? Or those jedi masters got promoted too fast? Or If the skills of sidious the same as windu, why the hell windu bring them, just to show sidious is powerful?
@@ernestyunardi7454 I've heard people say that sidious was prolonging the fight with windu by holding back, because he sensed that anakin was approaching, and he wanted to make it seem as if the jedi were taking over
@@ernestyunardi7454 Most of the Jedi council hadn't faced Sith or had the necessary combat experience. Going off of memory here, but I'm pretty sure this is all still correct. Obi-wan fought and defeated a Sith as an Apprentice. Fought and killed general Grievous. Fought Count Dooku twice. Battled Savage and Ventress. Anakin also fought and killed Count Dooku. Fought with Ventress. Mace Windu fought Grievous, and specialized in tapping into the Dark Side of the Force for his Vaapad form. Yoda is Yoda. Besides these four, most Jedi were folded by light saber wielding enemies much less force wielding enemies. The greatest feats other council members had were surviving Grievous (barely) by running away. They had neither the experience or the skill to survive such a battle between force users. Now enter Sidious, the greatest of the Sith in his time. Its not surprising to see these council members fail miserably. Only four Jedi could have stood against Sidious and had an "even" fight. Yoda, Mace, Obi-wan, and Anakin. Mace won. I believe Yoda would have eventually. Obi-wan would have as well. Anakin is a complete wild card, but as he keeps his emotion in check he would have as well. Yoda and Mace were the Old Guard of the Jedi while Obi-wan and Anakin would have been the leaders of the next generation. They kind of mirror each other in this way. Why did Windu bring them along? I doubt he realized how powerful Sidious was. Mace went from we will arrest Palpatine too "he's too dangerous to be kept alive!" Mace did not realize what he was walking into.
@@joshuacolt2630 Nope, Obi-Wan couldn't even dream to challange Sidious. Windu could challange him only on a lightsaber duel and Yoda was the only Jedi besides focused Anakin that could defeat him. Obi-Wan would be closer to die by first blow then to beat Sidious. He couldn't even challenge Count Dooku on equal terms. And while Dooku was indeed a powerhouse, Mace's caliber fighter, he was not Palpatine.
@@maciejpietrzak6146 I can understand that's what you think. However, Mace considered Obi-wan his only equal in the order RTS Novel. Yoda said he was The Only True Master of Soresu RTS Novel. The one who was sent to kill Grievous because Mace felt he was inadequate. RTS Novel. Form 7 is what Palpatine uses. Soresu is the direct counter to form 7. You can think Obi-wan would not win, but to say he would die in the first attack is just ludicrous. Obi-wan's bane was indeed Dooku, but he aslo beat Anakin who beat Dooku so...
3:02 The reason that the characters were moving so slowly was because the lightsabers they had as props were made out of glass and if they moved too fast or hit too hard, then the glass would break
@@AithalothesAnd it also makes sense for Vader and Obi-Wan to be sloeer than in their prime, after all. Vader is not as nimble as he once was, so he started to employ sheer brute force and use of the Force
@@kichiroumitsurugi4363 Also, Obi-Wan does several feints, just light movements to see if Vader would react because he knows the only way he wins is if Vader overreacts to something and he can punish that. He also backs off whenever Vader seems to be in a position to overwhelm him, which leads to the awkward lunging sequence because Vader is trying to push him into a corner where Vader would be able to just crush him against a wall with his raw power and the Force. And Vader knows Obi-Wan is trying to get him to overreact and swing too powerfully, which would leave him vulnerable. While he knows Obi-Wan isn't the Jedi he used to be, he's still more than skilled enough to kill Vader if Vader messes up. So Vader is carefully trying to move him around, get him in a place where Obi-Wan can no longer escape or use his comparative quickness to his advantage. Again the chain of lunges to try and back Obi-Wan into a wall. When we see Vader fighting Luke on Bespin, it's mostly powerful but awkward swings that he can get away with because Luke is an amateur. Luke even managed to punish Vader's usual fighting style on Cloud City, nicking his arm. Obi-Wan would have 100% punished those since they've fought multiple times and Vader knows that Obi-Wan is still skilled despite his age. It's one of those things where yes the choreography was awkward but it also kinda makes sense.
Hmmmmmm maybe don't make it out of glass? Maybe don't let a 60 year old do his own fight? Just stop coming up with excuses. The fight was abysmal, end of story.
It's crazy how we always seem to be just longing for the past when it comes to lightsaber duels. When the prequels came out everyone was complaining that the lightsaber fights were too fast, flashy and looked choreographed. Everyone was complaining that "the strikes have no weight" and "they aren't even trying to hit each other they are just swinging the sabers". Now that they went back to aggressive strikes with intent to kill everyone just wants to go back to the flashy prequel duels.
They forgot this is not battle of human, but battle of demi-god. Jedi&Sith has connection to force, they have Passive Danger Sense and Precognition to know attack. They maybe looks like parry each other or looks like hit sword not body. But actually they try hit the body but attacker and defender has reflex to parry or counter-attack each other. Thats why battle took so long. If some people want see real sword fight don't watch movie, just see tournament. Anyway this is just Fiction Work but some people always want Realism.
you forget that there's several different groups of people. it's not like the same people who hated on the prequels when they came out are the same who are praising them now
17:05 That little behind the back block and front block from Obi-Wan is my favorite move from any duel. It got me so excited seeing it for the first time
tbh, I don't even dislike the duel between Luke and Kylo, in a movie which I generally dislike. The idea of Luke influencing the fate of a battle from across the galaxy (if we pretend he couldn't fly there in time or something) is a huge feat of power and is, conceptually, a really cool idea. Luke projecting himself onto Crait to buy time to save Leia and the Resistance when he himself can't make it is also a cool idea. Shame they then decided to kill him off.
Maybe everyone just so happy to be Jedi and forget that they have to train their sword skill. From movie maybe is just Anakin actor who looks really train in sword fighting to the point he has to slow down so the other actor have their moment
@@lexi_2021 i dont think so. Both Anakin and Obi wan are basically at the same level of dueling and they both got insane endurance and stamina. Obi wans dueling form is based on breaking the enemies stamina and getting the enemy impatient and unfocused, and thats exactly what happened it just took its good time.
Not a star wars fan, buuuut, i agree. I do remember like behind the scenes stuff from like i think the third prequel movie? They really had to learn sword fighting in order to make that scene on the lava planet i believe it was. I think in recent movies, thats whats missing. The actual skills for it to look like a true, filled with emotion fight. A fight that shows worthy of a lightsaber
I’d have put the Duel between Obi-Wan and Vader at the end of Kenobi a lot higher. It was a breath of fresh air from the horrible duels in the Abram’s trilogy and it allowed us to finally see Obi-Wan accept that he could no longer save Anakin and made peace with that. It’s the first time in a while I’ve genuinely enjoyed a Star Wars series/film.
It made absolutely no sense, he finally admitted that Anakin was truly gone and understood the terrible mistake it had been to leave him alive the first time yet he still just saunters off into the sunset to do nothing for another 20 years, while Vader goes back to brutalising the galaxy like nothing happened. Obi Wan could have atoned for his first mistake in letting Vader live by finishing the job, obviously that can't happen, but the show didn't come up with a good reason for that. They had him make the same mistake but worse for a second time. He has rivers blood on his hands for leaving Vader alive not once but twice. That show was incredibly stupid, made no sense, and was a huge missed opportunity
@@rickskellig4652i Feel like by just moving the Reva shit Plot a Bit fortward like lets say obi wan has vader down and gehts a Message by Owen or a Vision of Luke getingelt Kidnapped hesitates and Goes makinging a painfull dessicion by Lettin Millionstel more die by saving the person that can Save all Word be more understandable
2:15 It wasn’t supposed to be a good choreographed fight. Obi-Wan had cut himself off from the force, out of feelings of guilt, and also just to hide himself after the purge. When he confronts, Vader here, he’s not trying to best him. He’s genuinely afraid for his life and he’s trying to flee. He’s not supposed to be a skilled master; he’s supposed to be Terrified. Vader is going one-handed and it’s just simply toying with Obi-Wan.
Exactly. Like Sam Witwer said about the first one in A New Hope. Its not the flashiest thing ever, but there’s so much at stake and its so impactful when Obi Wan dies.
For the main trilogy duels, especially the earlier ones, like vader vs kenobi in episode IV, its important to consider the technical limitations. Choreography could have been better, but it was much harder to put the sabers on screen at that time compared to later.
Apparently I'm not the only one who's enjoyment of these films depends greatly on the choreography. First off, much of the quality of movement is dependant upon the actual physical dexterity of the actors (or stunt doubles) themselves. As it turns out, Count Dooku played by Christopher Lee (whose sword skills can be seen in The Three Musketeers and The Four Musketeers) was " His whole adult life he had been a classic fencer and, like Basil Rathbone, more accomplished at it than the heroes who would defeat him onscreen." Then Ray Park (Darth Maul) was adept at WuShu and was the main choreographer for The Phantom Menace. Your number one pick is as it should be given the incredible number of hours both actors put in preparation for the duel. The main point about these lightsaber duels is that they are performance skills requiring many hours to perfect....so the quality of the choreography is a directorial choice based on his willingness to allow so much time and effort for these scenes. That is why Hong Kong action films have such a niche following...for example, Jackie Chan took three months to film the final fight scene for Drunken Master 2 (or Legend of the Drunken Master), which has a screen time of less than nine minutes. Most American films just do not have the needed lead time necessary for imaginative martial arts choreography and the practice required....however, the terrible quality of the light saber duels in the Star Wars sequel trilogy is just one of many reasons I do not enjoy any of those three films.
Im honestly surprised you didn't talk about Kylo Vs Finn. That was honestly the best duel of the sequel movies bc it actually felt like two people trying to kill each other and you can definitely seee their skill gaps.
For the 'new' Anakin vs Ahsoka fight I think it makes sense, that wasn't Anakin trying to kill her, that was him teaching her, reminding her of her will to live. So Anakin in my mind was totally holding back especially because he became this force ghost chosen one, I bet that he at minimum is as powerful as the Father.
4:51 I think the main good part of this duel was the end where anakins face is shown, hayden truly did such a good job of bringing darth to life and ill give it to disney his lines were lowkey cold
Some really underrated duels is Anakin vs Asajj Ventress and Geneneral Grievous vs the Jedi from CW 2003. I mean they're so clean and really quick and acrobatic like Jedi and their opponents should be.
4:45 I think what they were going for was to emphasise close up facial expressions from which you can see the hate that is fuelling Anakin and Dooku's nervous realization of how strong Anakin has become.
As someone who's been practicing lightsaber for more than 3 years, I can tell sequels fights are the exact opposite of what I've learned about choreographed fights
Idk if anyone else said it, but I heard somewheres that palpy vs the 3 jedi and windu was actually supposed to be longer & cooler but Ian Mcdiarmid had trouble with the choreography and so they cut it out.
upvote and respect for placing Obi-Wan vs Darth Maul so highly. I'd actually forgotten that duel until you reminded me, and you got it exactly right - what a duel *means* is far more important than whether it looks cool. Combat without purpose is just meaningless brutality.
Yo you’re right it really does look like Hayden Christiansen is slowing down so that Ahsoka (whatever the actress’s name is) can keep up, like he still has has all of it in him and he can go so much faster but she limits him
I’m gonna state the obvious…. If Luke Skywalker was physically present to fight Kyle Ren, a slap in the face is all Luke is gonna need to beat Kyle Ren
At 11:05 I think I know what they were going for. I think they wanted to have Sidious kill the three Jedi masters right away to show that he was dangerous enough to kill three very experienced Jedi masters in less than a minute. Doesn’t that make sense? I do kinda wish Sidious actually fought all 4 of them tho
No, it does not make sense. He should have fought all four of them, picking one after another off. I don't care if he picked them off quickly, but simply sliding your lightsaber forwards, then slashing, then poking again to kill all three Jedi's is simply not enough and does not feel realistic.
FYI the Mace and Jedi masters va studious was originally longer but they decided to not include most of it. Here are deleted scenes below. ua-cam.com/video/ExafXMO8ssE/v-deo.htmlsi=2QArY0WmI3r7omLm ua-cam.com/video/IbnZ8knS-Yo/v-deo.htmlsi=K_dSB-PrO9x8pnYf ua-cam.com/video/RZn5Rfl7wE4/v-deo.htmlsi=G3X_MIvMwoGuysaP
In regards to the Windu vs Palpatine fight, Palpatine used what is called a Force scream. It penetrated people's mind when used, and only a few were impervious to it when this duel happened. Obi-Wan and Windu are the only 2 that we know
whats funny is he said in the video that he was expecting the force scream excuse to come up in the comments when he started talking about the fight lol
A note to make is that the poor choreography in Sidious vs. Windu was _not_ due to poor writing, nor was the quick triple kill. They had a great deal more planned, prepped, and ready to go for that scene, and then George Lucas decided, at the last second, that Ian McDiarmid, who had never practiced any saber choreography and was way too old to be doing it realistically, had to be the one to do it instead of his stunt double. I love Lucas, and the man has many strengths and talents that many do not give him credit for (including the dialog, which was _intentionally_ wooden for artistic preference). Making snap decisions about lightsaber fights 10 minutes before they film after all the stuntmen had spent weeks training and getting everything right was _not_ one of them.
@@Fabio-ql5yfMostly in regards to awkwardly paced dialogue that progresses slower than it's supposed to (the occasional pause after a response), and arguably Anakin's flirting attempts (which are supposed to be bad, due to Anakin's lack of experience)
The writing was the problem. The fight looks fine. The story just didn’t properly convey certain things like mace literally absorbing palatine’s dark side power boost
@@kichiroumitsurugi4363 dialogue is fine and anakin was by design. Do more research into the behind the scenes for the films. Watch Rick Worley if you’re too lazy
The Rey vs Kylo fight makes sense when you remember that most of if not all the information on the various styles of lightsaber combat were lost with the Jedi Order. Kylo never had anyone to duel with so he had no reason to learn proper form and Rey was never taught, so it makes since that both of them would just swing at each other with little to no form.
For the record, I don't know the Disney trilogy at all, from what I'm picking from seeing him fight and what little I can assume about how the galaxy is is that they went for a full "brute force" style for him, rather consistant on the different extracts shown here, I was guessing if most people he had fought were not people with lightsaber it might've made sense he ended up being used to just overpower people with his superior weapon, yet in which case I still find it weird he didn't take the cue after the first few times. But then if he actually got trained to fighting with it like one of the commentors mentioned, then yeah I guess it's an issue with choregraphies.
I think its insane how the side characters like guards and whatever just get absolutely rocked by a jedi master with NO effort. Its a crazy power scale
You've got to give the new hope duel some credit for being the first ever lightsaber duel, and hence, the duel that set the precedent for how all lightsabers duels work for the later duels.
I will say I do like Rey's part in the first duel you cover. Every trick Kylo tries on her, she throws right back at him. Reverse grip heavy swing? She does it too. Force-grabbing a lightsaber to stop it mid-swing? She does it too. She was toying with him, and I love it.
Exactly. Fucking Rey, miss nobody from nowhere, was toying with kylo Ren, a fully trained Jedi padawan, sith apprentice and knight of Ren. That's who was against who. It's like if you said "I like the duel of general grievous vs C3PO, 3PO was toying with grievous all the time during it". Please, take a seat and never talk about star wars again
@@yasininn76 Luke Skywalker managed to break Darth Vader's guard and hit him in the shoulder with a lightsaber in episode 5 after minimal training from Yoda, none of which involved a lightsaber. Rey actually got some lightsaber training from Luke before this battle. It's precedented.
@@ovni2295 Kylo was way too weak for what he was supposed to be. Makes sense Rei is a bit better than episode 5 Luke, but Kylo should still far outclass her, since she’s only had a few day’s of actual Training. If they had given her a dual bladed saber it would have been more believeable since she used a staff earlier.
@@ovni2295yeah back then it was the maximum luke was capable of, plus vader was absolutely overconfident No comparison with Rey who has always been better than Kylo...
I personally put Maul vs Ahsoka in my top 5, the motion capture giving so much weight to a show that has had amazing yet floaty duels. The depth of why they are fighting and mauls speech before hand, the lighting of the blades themselves. It is just absouletly awe inspiring
10:40 I think the whole reason why Palpatine killed the other Jedi so quickly is that the Jedi haven't had to fight anyone in lightsaber combat in centuries. Palpatine had been training in genuine lightsaber training and honing his skills for like fifty years and the raw power of the dark side coming from this old man probably threw them off guard too. Also, Grevious was around, but he usually killed anyone he engaged combat with.
"Disney has unlimited money." A true example of tell me how you don't know how the world works without telling me how you don't know how the world works.
I cant believe you left out all the anakin vs dooku duels in the clone wars. Genuinely peak star wars. And that duel on tatooine where anakin starts tuning into the dark and dooku taunts him about his failing apprentice and dead mother! Chef's kiss
the reason why inquisitors were given lightsabers that spun was because it gave them a advantage against jedi masters who were trained in the in 7 forms (if i remember rightly mace windu was able to use form seven) and inquisitors were ex padawan who had conflicting ideals of the jedi (like barris) and grand inquisitor (who was a jedi temple guard) who went heavily adapted into the force and weren't to huge in the lightsaber forms and the emperor and vader didn't want the inquisitors to surpass them so the spinning lightsabers became their main weapon cause it did put jedi at a disadvantage with how it can rotate the blades quickly to block attacks aswell as hit on a different angle ALSO the grand inquisitors line that was said before he died has been said to reference when vader and palpatine trapped him in something like the skyrims soul cairn and it basically felt worse than death
The Sequels had cool moments also. It’s was just the inconsistencies in the story line that took away from the movies. The acting, stage design, and directing were top notch. The CGI also fit in well. But, the years that past between Episodes 6 & 7 were barely accounted for. I thought Ben and Ray’s character’s were going to be members of Luke’s Jedi order and we would follow their stories as they go on missions. (Self explanatory) Luke and Lea are Jedi masters and the New Temple is in Nebu where Lea also has been helping the survivor Colony of Alderon citizens. The movies should have taken place during these transition instead of years afterwards in my opinion.
I actually like the stopping the lightsaber with the force. The first duel in the Kenobi series was different. Obi-Wan and Vader haven't fought regularly for years, especially Kenobi. Both are rustier than a car in the middle of the Amazon rainforest. Both that duel and the duel in ANH I'd rank slightly higher just because of the context surrounding them, but they're still nowhere near the top for me. 2nd duel in the Kenobi show blows away both of the. The glowing green sword is the Blade of Talzin, used by Mother Talzin in The Clone Wars in the duel vs Mace Windu. Yes, Star Wars nerd here. 🤣🤣 The Anakin vs Ahsoka duel was as good as you think it is. No nostalgia. It's just nice to see Hayden as Anakin going nuts with the lightsaber again, and as you said, he definitely had to hold back, because everyone else didn't have Nick Gillard training them in the lightsaber choreography we all know and love. I'd personally rank that duel higher though. I loved the honor both Maul and Pre Vizla had, even though both characters are evil. Made the fight so much better imo. I almost forgot Maul didn't use the force at all. I don't think the Mace Windu vs Palpatine duel was lazy.
Yo, a well put if slightly controversial vid! I agreed with most of it too but there's one thing I noticed.....where would you rank Qui Gon vs Maul on Tatooine? You missed it out.
I've been thinking a lot about Palpatine v the 4 Jedi lately. It's definitely the bottom of my list. The Jedi Windu brought with him were not just masters, they were supposed to be masters of lightsaber combat specifically. I get that there are lots of reasons it could make sense. Sidious was supposed to be a badass and didn't get many chances to show it. Choreographing the first 4v1 lightsaber battle would have been a pain, and probably expensive. A prolonged battle would have extended the runtime, and again weighed on the budget. Just from watching the movies no one would even know the names of the other Jedi, nevermind why they were the ones chosen, so who cares? But damnit, if no-name characters automatically die in three seconds why even include them? "Oh, did you see how fast he killed those red-shirts? He's so strong!"
what I also love about the Ep 5 Luke v Vader battle is Vaders constant trash talk at the start. Like his „all too easy“ when he knocked luke in the carbonite freezer or his sarcastic „impressive“
Something about duel number 25 is that 1) obi wan is still rusty.. he has been in hiding for so long 2) not only obi wan but also Vader, since he still hasn’t adjusted to his suit, I think it’s unfair to say that they where both “running around in the dark” cause at the end of the day they are both getting used to each other again, since yk both their fighting styles have been changed so much. Ik it’s your opinion, but maybe the evidence from what you said isn’t quite true, and might be a bit bias
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@@Zaymations-OFFICIALThe Dark Side Of The Force Is A Pathway To Many Abilities Some Consider To Be Unnatural." -Palpatine 🙃🤯🙀 Yeah, that blew my mind as well..😹😹😸
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My childhood lightsaber battles with my little brother had more skill than the duels in the sequels.
mine too
Hahahahahahaha
Because the sequels lack what you had as a child which was passion and imagination
Exactly imagination seems to be lacking in Disney's employees
Same
Prequel duels are the best
Indeed
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True
Best things in each trilogy
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Original trilogy-story
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@@Skelly_the_Gamer yeah that sounds about right
A pretty underrated duel is Kit Fisto VS Grievous in Clone Wars. That episode made me go from thinking Kit Fisto was just some guy to a really cool character
yeah love that fight too
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He’s one of my favorite characters bc of that duel
What episode is it? I'm really into underrated jedi
They did him dirty when he got whomped effortlessly by Palpatine 😢😅
Putting Kylo Ren vs Finn and Rey over Obi Wan vs General Grievous is a war crime 💀💀💀
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Kanan and Erza in their stormtrooper disguises holding lightsabers reflected the original concepts for Star Wars: A New Hope in the 1970s with stormtroopers holding lightsabers!
Daisy: "So... are we going to have a choreography or something?"
JarJar Abrams: "LOL just swing it around"
I feel like that's exactly what happened
"Jar Jar" is wild! Lmfao 😭
I remember the Yoda vs Dooku fight on opening night in the theater, everybody cheered. That was the first time us older guys finally got to see what Yoda was really capable of, after all those years of wondering.
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Some guy behind me yelled "KICK HIS ASS, YODA." When Yoda walked in.
My dad burst out laughing
My friends and I, who were seniors in high school at the time, were laughing so hard with glee and losing our minds when we first saw this in theaters. As you said, many fans only knew Yoda as a puppet for the last 20 years. This was the first time he was digital and we were not prepared. Also, there was no social media so the fight was never leaked or spoiled. When you went to the theater to see Attack of the Clones back in 2002, you were seeing Yoda and Dooku's duel for the first time on the big screen.
In my experience everybody laughed.
I give some credit to the duel between Obi-Wan and Vader in the death star because Is the first lightsaber duel in the franchise, an introduction to the concept
i completely agree.
Yeah i agree.
nd very difficult with the spinning stick effect that was plugged in up Obi Wans sleeve.
Especially since the lightsaber blades were made out of thin glass at the time
@@HBstudios2005 and kept breaking!
Nothing will EVER top anakin vs Obi-Wan it’s the endgame of lightsaber fights, years of buildup to that moment was awesome
Entirely CGI and boring by the end of it 😂
Hot take but I think duel of the fates is better
@@casparfangthe sound track and revenge from obi wan makes it great but anakin vs obi wan had high stakes probably the best choreography and the soundtrack was good
@@casparfangnah it's not a hot take, that duel was incredible. Its hard for me to decide between that ans Anakin vs Obi-Wan
I love the emotion of the duel. But the duel itself is stupid, like multiple times they just swing the lightsabers like clowns without trying to hit one another or doing some batshit stupid stuff.
I think the vader vs. Obi wan at the end of obi-wan kenobi was epic. The rock throwing, the dialogue, it was so cool, like a continuatuon to the mustafar battle.
i totally agree
I loved it too. Obi Wan was still dealing with guilt and self doubt. Then he realized what was important and found his Jedi mojo again. I have seen lots of reactions to that dual and everyone goes crazy.
Also I think ranking the animated ones is lame as yeah you can make them do anything when it’s all computer wise. I do agree with the number one. That duel is actually the longest duel in movie history. And it actually was longer than what aired.
i love the subtle rickroll around from around 2.50 onwards
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Rickroll plays in the background qietly @@WilliamAfton273
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For the mace and sidious fight the OG choreography actually makes sense on why the jedi masters died so quickly because sidious was LIGHTNING fast in it and it wasnt a weird awkward pause with what we got
Yeah, he’s lightning fast then slow down when fighting windu?
Or those jedi masters got promoted too fast?
Or If the skills of sidious the same as windu, why the hell windu bring them, just to show sidious is powerful?
@@ernestyunardi7454 I've heard people say that sidious was prolonging the fight with windu by holding back, because he sensed that anakin was approaching, and he wanted to make it seem as if the jedi were taking over
@@ernestyunardi7454 Most of the Jedi council hadn't faced Sith or had the necessary combat experience. Going off of memory here, but I'm pretty sure this is all still correct.
Obi-wan fought and defeated a Sith as an Apprentice. Fought and killed general Grievous. Fought Count Dooku twice. Battled Savage and Ventress.
Anakin also fought and killed Count Dooku. Fought with Ventress.
Mace Windu fought Grievous, and specialized in tapping into the Dark Side of the Force for his Vaapad form.
Yoda is Yoda.
Besides these four, most Jedi were folded by light saber wielding enemies much less force wielding enemies. The greatest feats other council members had were surviving Grievous (barely) by running away. They had neither the experience or the skill to survive such a battle between force users.
Now enter Sidious, the greatest of the Sith in his time. Its not surprising to see these council members fail miserably. Only four Jedi could have stood against Sidious and had an "even" fight. Yoda, Mace, Obi-wan, and Anakin.
Mace won. I believe Yoda would have eventually. Obi-wan would have as well. Anakin is a complete wild card, but as he keeps his emotion in check he would have as well. Yoda and Mace were the Old Guard of the Jedi while Obi-wan and Anakin would have been the leaders of the next generation. They kind of mirror each other in this way.
Why did Windu bring them along? I doubt he realized how powerful Sidious was. Mace went from we will arrest Palpatine too "he's too dangerous to be kept alive!" Mace did not realize what he was walking into.
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Nope, Obi-Wan couldn't even dream to challange Sidious. Windu could challange him only on a lightsaber duel and Yoda was the only Jedi besides focused Anakin that could defeat him.
Obi-Wan would be closer to die by first blow then to beat Sidious. He couldn't even challenge Count Dooku on equal terms. And while Dooku was indeed a powerhouse, Mace's caliber fighter, he was not Palpatine.
@@maciejpietrzak6146 I can understand that's what you think. However, Mace considered Obi-wan his only equal in the order RTS Novel. Yoda said he was The Only True Master of Soresu RTS Novel. The one who was sent to kill Grievous because Mace felt he was inadequate. RTS Novel. Form 7 is what Palpatine uses. Soresu is the direct counter to form 7.
You can think Obi-wan would not win, but to say he would die in the first attack is just ludicrous. Obi-wan's bane was indeed Dooku, but he aslo beat Anakin who beat Dooku so...
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The reason that the characters were moving so slowly was because the lightsabers they had as props were made out of glass and if they moved too fast or hit too hard, then the glass would break
Not to mention grounded in more realism than any of the other fights, since Lucas took a lot of inspiration from Samurai.
Not to mention Alec Guinness was in his 60's when he made Star Wars
@@AithalothesAnd it also makes sense for Vader and Obi-Wan to be sloeer than in their prime, after all. Vader is not as nimble as he once was, so he started to employ sheer brute force and use of the Force
@@kichiroumitsurugi4363 Also, Obi-Wan does several feints, just light movements to see if Vader would react because he knows the only way he wins is if Vader overreacts to something and he can punish that. He also backs off whenever Vader seems to be in a position to overwhelm him, which leads to the awkward lunging sequence because Vader is trying to push him into a corner where Vader would be able to just crush him against a wall with his raw power and the Force.
And Vader knows Obi-Wan is trying to get him to overreact and swing too powerfully, which would leave him vulnerable. While he knows Obi-Wan isn't the Jedi he used to be, he's still more than skilled enough to kill Vader if Vader messes up. So Vader is carefully trying to move him around, get him in a place where Obi-Wan can no longer escape or use his comparative quickness to his advantage. Again the chain of lunges to try and back Obi-Wan into a wall.
When we see Vader fighting Luke on Bespin, it's mostly powerful but awkward swings that he can get away with because Luke is an amateur. Luke even managed to punish Vader's usual fighting style on Cloud City, nicking his arm. Obi-Wan would have 100% punished those since they've fought multiple times and Vader knows that Obi-Wan is still skilled despite his age.
It's one of those things where yes the choreography was awkward but it also kinda makes sense.
Hmmmmmm maybe don't make it out of glass? Maybe don't let a 60 year old do his own fight? Just stop coming up with excuses. The fight was abysmal, end of story.
It's crazy how we always seem to be just longing for the past when it comes to lightsaber duels. When the prequels came out everyone was complaining that the lightsaber fights were too fast, flashy and looked choreographed. Everyone was complaining that "the strikes have no weight" and "they aren't even trying to hit each other they are just swinging the sabers". Now that they went back to aggressive strikes with intent to kill everyone just wants to go back to the flashy prequel duels.
They forgot this is not battle of human, but battle of demi-god.
Jedi&Sith has connection to force, they have Passive Danger Sense and Precognition to know attack.
They maybe looks like parry each other or looks like hit sword not body. But actually they try hit the body but attacker and defender has reflex to parry or counter-attack each other. Thats why battle took so long.
If some people want see real sword fight don't watch movie, just see tournament.
Anyway this is just Fiction Work but some people always want Realism.
you forget that there's several different groups of people. it's not like the same people who hated on the prequels when they came out are the same who are praising them now
They are. I still say that. Only Gen Z and Alpha think the Prequel fights were better.
17:05 That little behind the back block and front block from Obi-Wan is my favorite move from any duel. It got me so excited seeing it for the first time
tbh, I don't even dislike the duel between Luke and Kylo, in a movie which I generally dislike. The idea of Luke influencing the fate of a battle from across the galaxy (if we pretend he couldn't fly there in time or something) is a huge feat of power and is, conceptually, a really cool idea. Luke projecting himself onto Crait to buy time to save Leia and the Resistance when he himself can't make it is also a cool idea.
Shame they then decided to kill him off.
Yeah fr he'd prolly die from the ATATs really quick also
@@xTribulation1only Disney Luke. EU Luke would be able to crush all of them by flexing his fist.
@@Jordan-ud4qv lol also those weren't a bunch AT-AT walkers they were ATM6 walkers
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To think a 5 second scene is better then a whole trilogy of movies
Yup. Deserves it's top ten spot.
Maybe everyone just so happy to be Jedi and forget that they have to train their sword skill. From movie maybe is just Anakin actor who looks really train in sword fighting to the point he has to slow down so the other actor have their moment
For me, the best is Anakin vs Obi Wan in ROTS, so you did great!
same i love that one, and second for me is the rotj luke vs vader duel
Duel at Mustafar. Yeah. My personal favorite, too. It was dragged for too long, though.
@@lexi_2021 i dont think so. Both Anakin and Obi wan are basically at the same level of dueling and they both got insane endurance and stamina. Obi wans dueling form is based on breaking the enemies stamina and getting the enemy impatient and unfocused, and thats exactly what happened it just took its good time.
@@Hattori-47Just bc there’s an explanation why it dragged on for long doesn’t mean it’s a bit long tho
Disney nerfed the lightsaber so much it became a hot glowstick
Prequels were the best of them all. Who else agrees?
Me
Yep
Wow super edgy opinion my friend.
@kevinandrewsphoto, what you think sequel or original did it better?
@@laisksjjsjs566 Original.
Lightsaber duels are not only about spectacle but also movement and emotion behind the duels
the clone wars shows this
Not a star wars fan, buuuut, i agree. I do remember like behind the scenes stuff from like i think the third prequel movie? They really had to learn sword fighting in order to make that scene on the lava planet i believe it was. I think in recent movies, thats whats missing. The actual skills for it to look like a true, filled with emotion fight. A fight that shows worthy of a lightsaber
I’d have put the Duel between Obi-Wan and Vader at the end of Kenobi a lot higher. It was a breath of fresh air from the horrible duels in the Abram’s trilogy and it allowed us to finally see Obi-Wan accept that he could no longer save Anakin and made peace with that. It’s the first time in a while I’ve genuinely enjoyed a Star Wars series/film.
But why didn't he just kill him right there and prevent him from killing thousands of more innocent people?
It made absolutely no sense, he finally admitted that Anakin was truly gone and understood the terrible mistake it had been to leave him alive the first time yet he still just saunters off into the sunset to do nothing for another 20 years, while Vader goes back to brutalising the galaxy like nothing happened.
Obi Wan could have atoned for his first mistake in letting Vader live by finishing the job, obviously that can't happen, but the show didn't come up with a good reason for that. They had him make the same mistake but worse for a second time. He has rivers blood on his hands for leaving Vader alive not once but twice.
That show was incredibly stupid, made no sense, and was a huge missed opportunity
agreed completely. A very underrated fight in an underrated show.
@@rickskellig4652i Feel like by just moving the Reva shit Plot a Bit fortward like lets say obi wan has vader down and gehts a Message by Owen or a Vision of Luke getingelt Kidnapped hesitates and Goes makinging a painfull dessicion by Lettin Millionstel more die by saving the person that can Save all Word be more understandable
6:05 I was about to GO OFF in the comments 😂
Me too bro he got me so hard 😂😂
@@saltfrog5you a freak bro
@@saltfrog5nigga pause💀
Obi wan and anakin vs count dooku at #20 is a CRIME
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It wasn’t supposed to be a good choreographed fight. Obi-Wan had cut himself off from the force, out of feelings of guilt, and also just to hide himself after the purge. When he confronts, Vader here, he’s not trying to best him. He’s genuinely afraid for his life and he’s trying to flee. He’s not supposed to be a skilled master; he’s supposed to be Terrified. Vader is going one-handed and it’s just simply toying with Obi-Wan.
I like this duel since it shows emotion. Duels aren’t always abt coreagraphy and skills.
Exactly. Like Sam Witwer said about the first one in A New Hope. Its not the flashiest thing ever, but there’s so much at stake and its so impactful when Obi Wan dies.
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"Nice little head surgery" 💀
Lol
9:17 Me after seeing that you put a secuels scene above a prequel scene:
It’s treason then
Literally one of the best ones too
I was shocked that obi-wan vs grievous wasn’t above the kylo vs rey fight, cuz that one was kinda stupid ngl
Kylo Ren Vs Finn carried that fight, Finn had the best saber fights of the sequels.
For the main trilogy duels, especially the earlier ones, like vader vs kenobi in episode IV, its important to consider the technical limitations. Choreography could have been better, but it was much harder to put the sabers on screen at that time compared to later.
The random rickroll in the background music is brilliant!
bigboi anakin gave dooku a head surgery”😂
Apparently I'm not the only one who's enjoyment of these films depends greatly on the choreography. First off, much of the quality of movement is dependant upon the actual physical dexterity of the actors (or stunt doubles) themselves. As it turns out, Count Dooku played by Christopher Lee (whose sword skills can be seen in The Three Musketeers and The Four Musketeers) was " His whole adult life he had been a classic fencer and, like Basil Rathbone, more accomplished at it than the heroes who would defeat him onscreen." Then Ray Park (Darth Maul) was adept at WuShu and was the main choreographer for The Phantom Menace. Your number one pick is as it should be given the incredible number of hours both actors put in preparation for the duel. The main point about these lightsaber duels is that they are performance skills requiring many hours to perfect....so the quality of the choreography is a directorial choice based on his willingness to allow so much time and effort for these scenes. That is why Hong Kong action films have such a niche following...for example, Jackie Chan took three months to film the final fight scene for Drunken Master 2 (or Legend of the Drunken Master), which has a screen time of less than nine minutes. Most American films just do not have the needed lead time necessary for imaginative martial arts choreography and the practice required....however, the terrible quality of the light saber duels in the Star Wars sequel trilogy is just one of many reasons I do not enjoy any of those three films.
im pretty sure dooku didnt actually do any duelling in star wars, he said he was too old, they just had a stunt double and morphed his face onto him
Im honestly surprised you didn't talk about Kylo Vs Finn. That was honestly the best duel of the sequel movies bc it actually felt like two people trying to kill each other and you can definitely seee their skill gaps.
its because it was overshadowed by reys fights with kylo
For the 'new' Anakin vs Ahsoka fight I think it makes sense, that wasn't Anakin trying to kill her, that was him teaching her, reminding her of her will to live. So Anakin in my mind was totally holding back especially because he became this force ghost chosen one, I bet that he at minimum is as powerful as the Father.
4:51 I think the main good part of this duel was the end where anakins face is shown, hayden truly did such a good job of bringing darth to life and ill give it to disney his lines were lowkey cold
6:21 THAT SWING was sick!
Some really underrated duels is Anakin vs Asajj Ventress and Geneneral Grievous vs the Jedi from CW 2003. I mean they're so clean and really quick and acrobatic like Jedi and their opponents should be.
those was the best duels they was straight cooking
4:45 I think what they were going for was to emphasise close up facial expressions from which you can see the hate that is fuelling Anakin and Dooku's nervous realization of how strong Anakin has become.
As someone who's been practicing lightsaber for more than 3 years, I can tell sequels fights are the exact opposite of what I've learned about choreographed fights
This dude is so bad at commentary.
@@Willtripyouout ?
@@Willtripyououtthis is the most confusing comment you could have possible wrote
Ok I'm sold I'll be subscribing to your channel love this video
I thought you said busting into the tents instead of busting into the tens and immediately the tusken Raiders came to mind
Dual of the fates is definitely my favorite, especially Obiwan vs Maul at the end
Same.
I agree
Imo it’s better than the mustafar fight
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"I think that this fight is a little nostalgic to a lot of people, because [...]"
Much to learn, you still have.
i love how everyone ignores the fact how smoothly he rickrolled us
I guess I’m not the only person who noticed😂
OK, so good, I'm not just hearing things 💀💀
Oh quite right... was masterfully done. I heard it instantly and I'm super impressed.
I Appreciated the country roads and backstreet boys as well
@@jblackburnI thought I heard Backstreet Boys!
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Idk if anyone else said it, but I heard somewheres that palpy vs the 3 jedi and windu was actually supposed to be longer & cooler but Ian Mcdiarmid had trouble with the choreography and so they cut it out.
+ guy playing kit fisto wasnt able to fight because of his costume
upvote and respect for placing Obi-Wan vs Darth Maul so highly. I'd actually forgotten that duel until you reminded me, and you got it exactly right - what a duel *means* is far more important than whether it looks cool. Combat without purpose is just meaningless brutality.
Yo you’re right it really does look like Hayden Christiansen is slowing down so that Ahsoka (whatever the actress’s name is) can keep up, like he still has has all of it in him and he can go so much faster but she limits him
1:39 thats the same move Obi Wan does when he jumps out of his starfighter and slices up battle droids at the beginning of Episode 3
I’m gonna state the obvious….
If Luke Skywalker was physically present to fight Kyle Ren, a slap in the face is all Luke is gonna need to beat Kyle Ren
haha that actually made me laugh loud xD
Being Rickrolled by a Star Wars video was totally not within expectations, good job! 😅
This guy rickrolled us in the most john wick way possible
Should've included Baylan Skoll vs Ahsoka both duels, really entertaining ones mostly for Baylan's fighting style
At 11:05 I think I know what they were going for. I think they wanted to have Sidious kill the three Jedi masters right away to show that he was dangerous enough to kill three very experienced Jedi masters in less than a minute. Doesn’t that make sense? I do kinda wish Sidious actually fought all 4 of them tho
No, it does not make sense. He should have fought all four of them, picking one after another off. I don't care if he picked them off quickly, but simply sliding your lightsaber forwards, then slashing, then poking again to kill all three Jedi's is simply not enough and does not feel realistic.
FYI the Mace and Jedi masters va studious was originally longer but they decided to not include most of it. Here are deleted scenes below.
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In regards to the Windu vs Palpatine fight, Palpatine used what is called a Force scream. It penetrated people's mind when used, and only a few were impervious to it when this duel happened. Obi-Wan and Windu are the only 2 that we know
I would think Yoda would be.
whats funny is he said in the video that he was expecting the force scream excuse to come up in the comments when he started talking about the fight lol
@@siwap3809 It's not an excuse, it's canon. FIGHT ME.
@@Luka1180 i wont have to fight you; the guy that made the video that youre commenting on will do it for me
We totally agree on #1. Simply the best.
The prequels are an absolute gem. The visuals are great, the battles are great and thank the maker, the characters are just beautiful.
So, I dont know if it counts as a “duel” but the Anakin vs Obi-Wan training duel was fucking epic. That should’ve been number two.
5:25 the real winner is the mulan ost you used, brought back memories for me
Seein Obi Wan holding a red lightsaber for the small fight is something we will all remember cause he will never turned to the darkside
The switch from spinning circles of light to 200 pound looking baseball bats that don’t cut things well was pretty funny
Who else heard the rickroll music in the background at 2:50
The best part of this entire video 11:19
SOMEONE NOTICED! I'm glad you appreciated it
A note to make is that the poor choreography in Sidious vs. Windu was _not_ due to poor writing, nor was the quick triple kill. They had a great deal more planned, prepped, and ready to go for that scene, and then George Lucas decided, at the last second, that Ian McDiarmid, who had never practiced any saber choreography and was way too old to be doing it realistically, had to be the one to do it instead of his stunt double.
I love Lucas, and the man has many strengths and talents that many do not give him credit for (including the dialog, which was _intentionally_ wooden for artistic preference). Making snap decisions about lightsaber fights 10 minutes before they film after all the stuntmen had spent weeks training and getting everything right was _not_ one of them.
Could you elaborate about the „wooden“(?) dialogue?
@@Fabio-ql5yfMostly in regards to awkwardly paced dialogue that progresses slower than it's supposed to (the occasional pause after a response), and arguably Anakin's flirting attempts (which are supposed to be bad, due to Anakin's lack of experience)
George Lucas intentionally made the dialog bad is...a take...
The writing was the problem. The fight looks fine. The story just didn’t properly convey certain things like mace literally absorbing palatine’s dark side power boost
@@kichiroumitsurugi4363 dialogue is fine and anakin was by design. Do more research into the behind the scenes for the films. Watch Rick Worley if you’re too lazy
The Rey vs Kylo fight makes sense when you remember that most of if not all the information on the various styles of lightsaber combat were lost with the Jedi Order. Kylo never had anyone to duel with so he had no reason to learn proper form and Rey was never taught, so it makes since that both of them would just swing at each other with little to no form.
Kylo trained under Luke so it doesn’t make sense he wouldn’t know the different lightsaber forms
@@cursedreality8615 until he left and Snoke had no one else for Kylo to fight to maintain his skills, so he became rusty.
@@cursedreality8615While true, he easily could gave rusted, given he left Luke behind and joined Snoke
For the record, I don't know the Disney trilogy at all, from what I'm picking from seeing him fight and what little I can assume about how the galaxy is is that they went for a full "brute force" style for him, rather consistant on the different extracts shown here, I was guessing if most people he had fought were not people with lightsaber it might've made sense he ended up being used to just overpower people with his superior weapon, yet in which case I still find it weird he didn't take the cue after the first few times.
But then if he actually got trained to fighting with it like one of the commentors mentioned, then yeah I guess it's an issue with choregraphies.
I think its insane how the side characters like guards and whatever just get absolutely rocked by a jedi master with NO effort. Its a crazy power scale
You've got to give the new hope duel some credit for being the first ever lightsaber duel, and hence, the duel that set the precedent for how all lightsabers duels work for the later duels.
I will say I do like Rey's part in the first duel you cover. Every trick Kylo tries on her, she throws right back at him. Reverse grip heavy swing? She does it too. Force-grabbing a lightsaber to stop it mid-swing? She does it too. She was toying with him, and I love it.
Exactly. Fucking Rey, miss nobody from nowhere, was toying with kylo Ren, a fully trained Jedi padawan, sith apprentice and knight of Ren. That's who was against who. It's like if you said "I like the duel of general grievous vs C3PO, 3PO was toying with grievous all the time during it". Please, take a seat and never talk about star wars again
@@yasininn76 Luke Skywalker managed to break Darth Vader's guard and hit him in the shoulder with a lightsaber in episode 5 after minimal training from Yoda, none of which involved a lightsaber. Rey actually got some lightsaber training from Luke before this battle. It's precedented.
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Kylo was way too weak for what he was supposed to be.
Makes sense Rei is a bit better than episode 5 Luke, but Kylo should still far outclass her, since she’s only had a few day’s of actual Training.
If they had given her a dual bladed saber it would have been more believeable since she used a staff earlier.
@@ovni2295yeah back then it was the maximum luke was capable of, plus vader was absolutely overconfident
No comparison with Rey who has always been better than Kylo...
I personally put Maul vs Ahsoka in my top 5, the motion capture giving so much weight to a show that has had amazing yet floaty duels. The depth of why they are fighting and mauls speech before hand, the lighting of the blades themselves. It is just absouletly awe inspiring
I would definitely switch Ashoka-maul with Ashoka-vader. Otherwise great ranking
Plus the mocap guy for Maul was Ray Park, the original actor/ stuntman from Episode I.
As a Fan of Star Wars Universe.
I really love all of the Lightsaber-Duels.
1:24.
That was just Dodging Moves.
10:40 I think the whole reason why Palpatine killed the other Jedi so quickly is that the Jedi haven't had to fight anyone in lightsaber combat in centuries. Palpatine had been training in genuine lightsaber training and honing his skills for like fifty years and the raw power of the dark side coming from this old man probably threw them off guard too. Also, Grevious was around, but he usually killed anyone he engaged combat with.
2:40 My guy rickrolled all of us lmao
Dooku vs Ventress and the nightsisters not being on here is FOUL
Absolutely insane !
0:25 same, there just swing there sabers at each other
"Disney has unlimited money." A true example of tell me how you don't know how the world works without telling me how you don't know how the world works.
Its a metaphor
The incredibles 2 made 1.243 billion USD so i think they have a ton
"Tell me you're 13 without telling me you're 13" LMAO@@rose_speedrunner
😂 troll
@@memealade2421 🤡 clown
2:39 did…. Did I just get fucking Rick rolled by the background instrumental?!?
Well played, sir. Well played.
I cant believe you left out all the anakin vs dooku duels in the clone wars. Genuinely peak star wars. And that duel on tatooine where anakin starts tuning into the dark and dooku taunts him about his failing apprentice and dead mother! Chef's kiss
the reason why inquisitors were given lightsabers that spun was because it gave them a advantage against jedi masters who were trained in the in 7 forms (if i remember rightly mace windu was able to use form seven) and inquisitors were ex padawan who had conflicting ideals of the jedi (like barris) and grand inquisitor (who was a jedi temple guard) who went heavily adapted into the force and weren't to huge in the lightsaber forms and the emperor and vader didn't want the inquisitors to surpass them so the spinning lightsabers became their main weapon cause it did put jedi at a disadvantage with how it can rotate the blades quickly to block attacks aswell as hit on a different angle
ALSO the grand inquisitors line that was said before he died has been said to reference when vader and palpatine trapped him in something like the skyrims soul cairn and it basically felt worse than death
The Sequels had cool moments also. It’s was just the inconsistencies in the story line that took away from the movies. The acting, stage design, and directing were top notch. The CGI also fit in well.
But, the years that past between Episodes 6 & 7 were barely accounted for. I thought Ben and Ray’s character’s were going to be members of Luke’s Jedi order and we would follow their stories as they go on missions. (Self explanatory) Luke and Lea are Jedi masters and the New Temple is in Nebu where Lea also has been helping the survivor Colony of Alderon citizens.
The movies should have taken place during these transition instead of years afterwards in my opinion.
I actually like the stopping the lightsaber with the force.
The first duel in the Kenobi series was different. Obi-Wan and Vader haven't fought regularly for years, especially Kenobi. Both are rustier than a car in the middle of the Amazon rainforest. Both that duel and the duel in ANH I'd rank slightly higher just because of the context surrounding them, but they're still nowhere near the top for me. 2nd duel in the Kenobi show blows away both of the.
The glowing green sword is the Blade of Talzin, used by Mother Talzin in The Clone Wars in the duel vs Mace Windu. Yes, Star Wars nerd here. 🤣🤣
The Anakin vs Ahsoka duel was as good as you think it is. No nostalgia. It's just nice to see Hayden as Anakin going nuts with the lightsaber again, and as you said, he definitely had to hold back, because everyone else didn't have Nick Gillard training them in the lightsaber choreography we all know and love. I'd personally rank that duel higher though.
I loved the honor both Maul and Pre Vizla had, even though both characters are evil. Made the fight so much better imo. I almost forgot Maul didn't use the force at all.
I don't think the Mace Windu vs Palpatine duel was lazy.
Dooku 1V2 was great man
Also Palps vs Mace incredible
I was sad when savage oppress died, he was such a lovable character
Yo, a well put if slightly controversial vid! I agreed with most of it too but there's one thing I noticed.....where would you rank Qui Gon vs Maul on Tatooine? You missed it out.
I've been thinking a lot about Palpatine v the 4 Jedi lately. It's definitely the bottom of my list. The Jedi Windu brought with him were not just masters, they were supposed to be masters of lightsaber combat specifically. I get that there are lots of reasons it could make sense. Sidious was supposed to be a badass and didn't get many chances to show it. Choreographing the first 4v1 lightsaber battle would have been a pain, and probably expensive. A prolonged battle would have extended the runtime, and again weighed on the budget. Just from watching the movies no one would even know the names of the other Jedi, nevermind why they were the ones chosen, so who cares? But damnit, if no-name characters automatically die in three seconds why even include them? "Oh, did you see how fast he killed those red-shirts? He's so strong!"
Off topic but at 5:06 IS THAT I’LL MAKE A MAN OUT OF YOU I HEAR?!?!
Obiwan vs Darth Vader in kenobi was absolutely awesome imo. And rey vs kylo lightsaber duel on death star was really gr8.
I can’t tell if your being serious or just trying to make people angry
what I also love about the Ep 5 Luke v Vader battle is Vaders constant trash talk at the start. Like his „all too easy“ when he knocked luke in the carbonite freezer or his sarcastic „impressive“
2:20 obi wan wasn’t skilled in this battle because he hasn’t fought with a saber in nearly or over 10 years…
Bro put a RickRoll in 3:15 and thought we wouldn't notice
AT 5:39 IT WAS PLAYING A SONG FROM MULAN
i like how you put "far over the misty mountains cold" in the end
Who dosen't like the sequals
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Something about duel number 25 is that 1) obi wan is still rusty.. he has been in hiding for so long 2) not only obi wan but also Vader, since he still hasn’t adjusted to his suit, I think it’s unfair to say that they where both “running around in the dark” cause at the end of the day they are both getting used to each other again, since yk both their fighting styles have been changed so much. Ik it’s your opinion, but maybe the evidence from what you said isn’t quite true, and might be a bit bias
did anyone else hear never gonna give you up in the back ground at 3:22?
Whaaaaat? How did thaaaat happen? 😎
Just realised lol
Bruh Anakin and douku with the above head swinging was a really good moment tbh. You felt the focus
BRO
IS THAT NEVER GONNA GIVE YOU UP IN THE BACKGROUND
8:41 Musk wont like that
wow he put tell me why at 15:53
Fun fact, the only reason Asoka left the Jedi order one was to justify why she wasn’t in revenge of the Sith
6:07 scared me for a sec
0:32 look what they have done to our once elegant weapons
8:20 i would put it all above the sequel duels. my childhood favourite. i just personally think greyivouis vs obi wan kebabi deserves a better place