Just found out about your channel. You did a marvelous job concentrating on the lesser-known history of Lanna in just 13 min video. As a “Northern Thai” myself, I have always been fascinated by the architectural style of the North. In my observation, the quintessential northerner style of architecture is less ornamental compared to its central Thai counterpart. There are much fewer influences from Hindu and Khmer and mostly maintains the Animistic and Buddhism core more than Ayuthaya. Some of the newer temples with more extravagant features are either an influence from Burmese occupied (16th - 18th century) or Central Thai (last 100 years). Anyhow, I don’t mean to put a verdict and decide which style is superior to the others but as you have mentioned in the video, the golden period of Lanna deserves its praise. The simplicity core of Buddhist philosophy with some little touches of delicacy sprinkled on top which can be observed from that period, results in a subtle beauty that is unique and represents the spirit of the Lanna people. A land of cool tranquility with a perpetual calm atmosphere by its nature.
Hello from Mexico. I read your comment, and as someone who is planning to visit Chiang Mai next November, I was wondering if you could recommend me some other great videos like this one that could help me to learn more about this fascinating culture. Kop praaah Khun krup
Tai people (I’m native born, 1/2 Thai, from Bangkok) can understand and communicate with each other, no matter which region… north (Lanna), northeast (Isaan), Lao, central, or south. Besides each regional dialect, many provinces will have their area dialect or unique word choices - but we can verbally communicate and understand each other (mutually intelligible). (I was just in Luang Prabang, Laos last week - and had no issues communicating using Thai and understanding Lao.) All related greater Tai tribes. Great video.
I get to spend three months right outside of Chiang Mai! The Lan Na language is still around too. Very interesting. The walls of the old city are still there and really cool.
It's so good to know your chanel. I did notice there are fanta in front of the spirit house.I am Chinese and i am in Chiangmai now. I like here very much. Thank you for sharing. ❤❤❤
History of Thailand and Myanmar are intertwined, wars were inevitable. Language was not a barrier, minor variances but communicable. Native tongue calls the cities Jiang Mai, Jiang Hai, Jiang San (Xieng or Jiang), Buddhism and Hinduism play major roles. The four rivers: Ping, Wang Yom and Nan still present, thus Chao Praya River.
Thanks for watching! I'll keep in mind. I'm planning on covering all sorts of history from this time period. While I was researching Lanna, I came across several topics that peaked my interest in Myanmar's history, so expect a video fairly soon.
1515 Battle of Me Wang in 1515 in Thailand ,the king of Siam Ramathibodi II and the portuguese and many muskets defeated the forces of Chiang Mai ,a fierce battle was fought on the banks of the Me Wang River ,the Chiang Mai were defeated ( Chiang Mai “Kingdom of a Million Rice Fields )
Thailand was formed from many kingdoms of people who spoke the Tai-Lao and Tai-Kadai languages. Each kingdom had a king who ruled both small and large cities. The unification was carried out through diplomacy, royal marriages, and war. It also accepted foreign ethnic groups as citizens. Don't be surprised that Thai people look very different. This is not an obstacle to uniting as peaceful allies and ready to protect each other.
@@storiesinhistory their descendants are actually still living in Thailand one of them is a former major general in the Thai Air Force and in chiang mai they’re still hosting ceremonies every year at the statue of king mangrai
Actually you left out the main reason King Mungrai changed the capital from Chiang Saen to Chiang Rai and then Chiang Mai. Before Mungrai was born, Chiang Saen used to be a prosperous capital city of Singanavati kingdom aka Yonok kingdom. According to the legend, the fall of the Yonok kingdom happened because the civilians caught a huge eel in Kok river (a tributary of Mekong river). Meanwhile, a witch in the Chiang Saen warned the civilians that this eel is not an ordinary eel, it’s a descendant of Naga, a mythological serpent. And by eating it is like an insult to the Naga god which will lead to the apocalypse. Unfortunately, the civilians ignored her and butchered and cooked said eel for the entire population of the kingdom which led to the earthquake which destroyed the Yonok kingdom and caused it to submerge under the Mekong river (the very same manner as the Atlantis empire) and wiped out this once glorious kingdom overnight. And since all the civilians and the monarchy of Yonok kingdom are all dead, it led to a huge power vacuum in that area which caused Mungrai to take advantage of this and migrate his people to Chiang Mai to establish the new kingdom of Lanna and make himself a sole hegemony of the region. Also, for the record, the whole Naga’s descendant thing might never happen but what actually happened is that there’s a huge earthquake that destroyed the city of Chiang Saen which caused it to sink under the river and become Thale Sap Chiang Saen Lake in the present day.
I think you are mistaken about the timeline of the story. The Naga story took place long before Mangrai’s lifetime. The story said after the Naga sank the city and killed all royalty, the survivors of the incident gathered and found a new city called “Wiang Perksa” first. Wiang Perksa was a city ruled by an elected Chief Villager showing the early form of direct democracy of the Middle Ages era of Thai history. Wiang Perksa continued to rule with this system until the Burmese King announced the calendar reform and asked his neighboring Kingdoms to join his reformation. Since Wiang Perksa was not ruled by a king or any royalty, so God sent a king from heaven to be Wiang Perksa’s ruler, and consequently Wiang Perksa could join the reformation. This new king established his dynastic rules over Wieng Perksa as the “Lao Dynasty” and King Magrai is the 25th king descendant of the Lao Dynasty. During the Lao Dynasty rules, the name of the city was changed from “Wiang Perksa” to “Hiran” and then moved to a new city called “Ngoenyang” Finally, in King Mangrai’s reign, he united the smaller independent city-states in the Kok River Basin that descended from the Yonok Kingdom under his direct rule and found “Chiang Rai” as a new capital. Then finally he conquered the Hariphuchai Kingdom and found “Chiang Mai” as a new capital again. After then his dynasty became known as the “Mangrai Dynasty”.
back then before merg with Bankkok goverment and become Thailand the Northern Thailand is knowing as Lanna Kingdom they have really close relationship with Laos or back then know as Lan Xang so Lanna is million of rice field and Lan Xang is Million of elephant and Lan Xang it's also have a good relationship with Ayutthaya so Thailand back than is Krung-ayothaya-sri-ram-tep-nakorn or Krung-tep-daravadi-sri-ram-tep-nakorn by all mean Kingdom of Rama and on the other side of Kong river is Krug-sri-sat-ta-na-ka-na-hut wish translate to Great Kingdom of million elephant or shortly is Lan Xang ( million elephant ) so since Lanna and Lan Xang has a good relationship and after Siam conquer Lanna and LanXang we call them both "Laos" but there's also have a detail to call them specific like Black belly laos or "White belly laos witch comes from their signature tattoo that we called "morm"(มอม) accully there's still a lot more detail but that's all for now
Black belly lao were northern thai aka lanna and northern lao luang prabang people. white belly lao were anyone from Viengchan downward to southern lao
Imagine The Burmese just paid tribute to the Qing Emperor instead of going against him, the Burmese Empire would have kept the Lana Kingdom as a vessel into the 19th century possibly integrated into British Burma
After being integrated into British Burma, combined with the Tai population of Shan State making the population of the Tai people would be higher and stronger to even counterpoise the Burmese. And finally, lead to the fall of the Union of Myanmar since the Tai people of Shan State along with the other ethnic minorities support each other's independence movements.
@@samomanawat Tai may have high population, but they were never centralized. They were ruled by Federated chieftains & princes only. Even today, they are fragmented and fighting eachother in Myanmar
@@CrimsonAlchemist That is true for Shan State, but not in the case of Lanna which has centralized administration. After all, those Federated Shan City States still support independence altogether as well.
Hack if they did not have to deal with the Chinese The Konbaung Empire would have keep control over all of Thailand and Laos. Which means they would not have needed to invade Assam which caused the first Anglo-Burmese war.
Lanna culture is heavily influenced by Burmese the festivals in Lanna are also Burmese festivals celebrated according to Burmese Calender : Burmese calender is used by Lanna , Siam , xishaungpaana up to 1889.onOnce Lanna was Burmese rules and water festival was celebrated there only of all Siam , others parts of Siam never celebrated as much . Now Thai gov cunningly took Burmese water festival as their and even tried to get unesco heritages which is unforgivable discreditable act of Thai gov and corrupted UNESCO.
Because Lanna Kingdom and Lan Xang Kingdom are the past of Siam. Siam king relationships with those Kingdom become Siam country and continues to Thailand so Lanna people and Lan Xang people they are Thai citizenship , the culture mean people continued to generation to new generations and never stop developing until becoming their own identity and their own Traditional culture so Thai people have strong existing relationships with their culture until become popular culture all over the world know Thailand 🇹🇭 Thai Songkran Festival, Thai Loy krathong Festival. If Thailand don't have any DNA of people from Lanna and Lan Xang Thailand nowadays will never develop Songkran Festival or water festival in Thailand country. But Songkran Festival thailand in UNESCO because Thai people also have the people that owned the water culture too.
Some paintings you used are of Burmese kingdom’ . Lanna got buddism from Bagan Burmese empire and AVa Burmese kingdom . Lanna is not the source of Buddhism for Southeast Asia. Learn about Pyu Theravada Buddhism kingdom and the Bagan Theravada Buddhist empire. ( the continuation of Pyu Theravada Buddhism) Much earlier before Lanna even formeD . Even in 15th century 16 century AD much of tai ehthics provinces are not Buddhist and AVa Burmese kingdom had to sent monks and give Buddha manuscripts as missionaries. You can read in research paper Tai polities in Mekong region tributary relationship between China and burma by V. Grabosky in which you will see tai ethnics got written scripts and Buddhism from Burmese AVaKingdom : many tai are still animist even in 14th century.
Are you one of stupid khmer fellow? How about khmer and Burmese now? Both are crawling into Thailand for refuge and work. If you still have the history view like absurd khmer, you wouldn't be able to develop. Unlike Vietnamese - They look forward and find cooperation to lift people's life standard with Thai. With your current perspective, that's why many minority ethnic groups are trying to fight for their independent. It's the same reason why Burmese kingdom were colonized by British empire. Arrogant !!! Burmese kingdom had been long gone bro. As Thai, we don't give a shit about conflicts in the past btw Burma and Siam. Only goodwill for people in nowaday Mynmar. We don't want to join any conflicts in Mynmar but it spilled over to us. As Buddhism, we also don't want to see those refuge suffer. So we help them as much as we can. Meanwhile we have to stablize our society due to influx of refuge that cuase a lot social problems. Don't make our view toward Mynmar shift from current position. Many of them are good people but lack opportunity. Our government is considering and trying to find solution for them to stay legally and provide some services or even Thai citizenship. Actually it's not that hard to assimilate them into our society. I'm sure many of them have ancestors from Yodia or Mon or Shan (Tai-Yai). We don't care about land anymore. Just preserve what we currently have. Human resources are far more sustainable than natural resources.
The Lanna people are not Laos. The ancestors of the Lanna people (immigrated from Yunnan Province, China) Lanna is Bai Yue. The Zhuang people also have an ancestor, Bai Yue.
Lanna are Lao people, Ayutthaya chronicles called them Lao people, Mengrai Fathers name is LaoMeng. Linguistic studies and Any old map published in Siam before 1899 (before the Nationalist movement) or any Ayuthaya periods label the regions of Lanna or ChiangMai called that region as being occupied by Lao people. They were called the Lao Tong Dam by other Tai groups bc the men tattooed their bellies. TaiYuan is a modern day nationalist term, no one calls themselves TaiYuan in nothern Thailand, it doesn’t exist, Yuan is a term that refers to Mongols, if anything they say they are KonMuang.
Tai-Yuan comes from Yonok Chiang Saen. What are you talking about! Yonok kingdom exisited before Lanna. That's why we called ourself Tai-Yuan. Konmuang is a 200 year name when Lanna joined Siam we started to called ourself to let the Siamese seeing we're not just peoples living in the mountain. Konmuang meaning as it sound, city people. And black belly Tai/Lao or white doesnt matter. That's how the Siamese called us doesnt mean it's correct just because they can't distinguished 2 group of Tai ethnic. Doesnt mean we are as what they label us to be.
@@bloodyoctober9939 yonok and yuan are not the same, Yuan refers to Mongolians. Yuan as in Yuannan which is just fabricated. All the Kings of Yonok call themselves Lao, MengHai’s father name is LaoMeng. There is No Tai people, Tai is a Lao word that refers to a location, Tai Neau means natives from the North, Tai Theau means natives from the south. taiMuang means natives from the city. So TaiYuan is just a reference that they came from Yunnan but that is fabricated bc according to the Chronicles of ChiangMai they came from MuangThenh which is Dien Bien Phu Northern Vietnam. Yuannan is what the Mongols renamed Nanchao after they conquered it. yonok was in Northern Laos in the province of Bokeo. The dialect spoken in Lanna is a Northern Lao dialect. The dialect spoken in Sukothai was a dialect that originated from the region of Loungprabang, the Dialect of Ayutthaya is a dialect that came from Xiengkhouang. These came from linguistics studies.
@@bloodyoctober9939 the Chronicles of ChiangMai was rewritten and translated by the ultra nationalist Prince Damroung, many of his translations are fabrications, his job was to rewrite history to create the foundations for Siam. The original manuscript are not available to researchers or academics. The historical records of ChiangMai, Lanna and Yonok was rewritten by Siamese nationalists. That’s the history you know about. The Shan mountains in Northern Thailand is really called the AiLaoShan or AiLao Mountains. Shan means mountain, again nationalist propaganda. The central government forced Leaders, Monks and teachers from the north to be sent to central Siam to be reeducate.
@@tingtingnoy3133 yuan and yonok are the same thing if you aren’t Thai people you don’t know about this. Laos people call northern Thai “yuan” that why northern Thai is not Laos. Northern Thai and Laos we are closer but we not the same nationality or ethnicity we are Tai kadai or Tai people group
@@tingtingnoy3133Do not confuse Tai- Yuan (pronounce Yuān) and Yuan Dynasty that is Mongols (pronounce Yuán) And Yuan dynasty existed after the kingdom of Yonok Chieng Saen. Before the Yuan dynasty, Han Chinese were still ruling China, so no, it's not Mongols term.
Thai people have been here for thousands of years. Thai people are not from southern China. As for Thai people, they use Tai Kadai language and Lao language, Khom language. and Pali Sanskrit acquired in Thai language The Khmers had no empire and were just slaves to the Khom people. Siem-Khom-Lanna were relatives before uniting to become Siam.
The Lanna people are not Laos. The ancestors of the Lanna people (immigrated from Yunnan Province, China) Lanna is Bai Yue. The Zhuang people also have an ancestor, Bai Yue.
I could tell you are the most prejudice and racist against the Khmer people, which is your ancestors Khmer-Mon >> Khom >>>Siame to today Thai (mixed race) Lao is the only real Tai race. My nationality is Cambodian but my blood DNA is about 39% from Khmer-Mon and Siamese or modern day Thai. I would like to hate the Thai too but for what? Just like I’m insulting my own ancestors.
Lana belongs to Laos they r Laos not Thai Lana and lanxang they r Laos u have to find out dipper about history go to Laos history not Thai history they all lie
Wrong! Lao people and Northern Thai are very different. Y'all cant even understand day to day conversation 😂 also I did DNA ncestry and my results came out Tai and Han Chinese. No Lao DNA.
Just found out about your channel. You did a marvelous job concentrating on the lesser-known history of Lanna in just 13 min video. As a “Northern Thai” myself, I have always been fascinated by the architectural style of the North. In my observation, the quintessential northerner style of architecture is less ornamental compared to its central Thai counterpart. There are much fewer influences from Hindu and Khmer and mostly maintains the Animistic and Buddhism core more than Ayuthaya. Some of the newer temples with more extravagant features are either an influence from Burmese occupied (16th - 18th century) or Central Thai (last 100 years). Anyhow, I don’t mean to put a verdict and decide which style is superior to the others but as you have mentioned in the video, the golden period of Lanna deserves its praise. The simplicity core of Buddhist philosophy with some little touches of delicacy sprinkled on top which can be observed from that period, results in a subtle beauty that is unique and represents the spirit of the Lanna people. A land of cool tranquility with a perpetual calm atmosphere by its nature.
Thanks for watching and I'm glad you enjoyed. I agree Lanna definitely has a unique beauty to its architecture and culture
Hello from Mexico. I read your comment, and as someone who is planning to visit Chiang Mai next November, I was wondering if you could recommend me some other great videos like this one that could help me to learn more about this fascinating culture. Kop praaah Khun krup
Tai people (I’m native born, 1/2 Thai, from Bangkok) can understand and communicate with each other, no matter which region… north (Lanna), northeast (Isaan), Lao, central, or south. Besides each regional dialect, many provinces will have their area dialect or unique word choices - but we can verbally communicate and understand each other (mutually intelligible). (I was just in Luang Prabang, Laos last week - and had no issues communicating using Thai and understanding Lao.) All related greater Tai tribes. Great video.
Siamese are Mon people
Siamese or Mon Khmer they dark skin.
I LOVE your videos! Thank you for making them
Thanks, I'm glad you enjoyed watching!
I get to spend three months right outside of Chiang Mai! The Lan Na language is still around too. Very interesting. The walls of the old city are still there and really cool.
Excellent. I hope you enjoy your time there!
Well they did gain the all of the tenasserim coast, not sure which one is more valuable though
Official of people and language is tai yuan
It's so good to know your chanel. I did notice there are fanta in front of the spirit house.I am Chinese and i am in Chiangmai now. I like here very much. Thank you for sharing. ❤❤❤
It's curious to know that one of the descents of the royal family of Lanna is the aunt of Minnie (Nicha Yontararak) a member of a K-Pop group
History of Thailand and Myanmar are intertwined, wars were inevitable. Language was not a barrier, minor variances but communicable. Native tongue calls the cities Jiang Mai, Jiang Hai, Jiang San (Xieng or Jiang), Buddhism and Hinduism play major roles. The four rivers: Ping, Wang Yom and Nan still present, thus Chao Praya River.
Wow...great job! Love to learn more about Burgan[?] and others in Myanmar in the same period of Lanna and Sukhothai...please
Thanks for watching! I'll keep in mind. I'm planning on covering all sorts of history from this time period. While I was researching Lanna, I came across several topics that peaked my interest in Myanmar's history, so expect a video fairly soon.
@@storiesinhistory sounds very interesting! 👍
I'm northern thai(lanna)
1515 Battle of Me Wang
in 1515 in Thailand ,the king of Siam Ramathibodi II and the portuguese
and many muskets defeated the forces of Chiang Mai ,a fierce battle was
fought on the banks of the Me Wang River ,the Chiang Mai were defeated
( Chiang Mai “Kingdom of a Million Rice Fields )
thank you so much for this! i had this on my exams and i forgot everything about my own country
Glad to help!
Do you from China or Cambodia?@storiesinhistory
Thank you for an accurate map on the video's cover.
Thailand was formed from many kingdoms of people who spoke the Tai-Lao and Tai-Kadai languages. Each kingdom had a king who ruled both small and large cities. The unification was carried out through diplomacy, royal marriages, and war. It also accepted foreign ethnic groups as citizens. Don't be surprised that Thai people look very different. This is not an obstacle to uniting as peaceful allies and ready to protect each other.
How could UA-cam algorithm ignore this channel
Hopefully, soon I'll make a friend to the algorithm. Thanks for watching!
You should do a video about the successor of the Lanna, the Kingdom of Chiang Mai
Thanks for watching! I'll put the topic in the queue. It's a rather interesting time period for Chiang Mai
@@storiesinhistory their descendants are actually still living in Thailand one of them is a former major general in the Thai Air Force and in chiang mai they’re still hosting ceremonies every year at the statue of king mangrai
Actually you left out the main reason King Mungrai changed the capital from Chiang Saen to Chiang Rai and then Chiang Mai.
Before Mungrai was born, Chiang Saen used to be a prosperous capital city of Singanavati kingdom aka Yonok kingdom.
According to the legend, the fall of the Yonok kingdom happened because the civilians caught a huge eel in Kok river (a tributary of Mekong river). Meanwhile, a witch in the Chiang Saen warned the civilians that this eel is not an ordinary eel, it’s a descendant of Naga, a mythological serpent. And by eating it is like an insult to the Naga god which will lead to the apocalypse. Unfortunately, the civilians ignored her and butchered and cooked said eel for the entire population of the kingdom which led to the earthquake which destroyed the Yonok kingdom and caused it to submerge under the Mekong river (the very same manner as the Atlantis empire) and wiped out this once glorious kingdom overnight. And since all the civilians and the monarchy of Yonok kingdom are all dead, it led to a huge power vacuum in that area which caused Mungrai to take advantage of this and migrate his people to Chiang Mai to establish the new kingdom of Lanna and make himself a sole hegemony of the region.
Also, for the record, the whole Naga’s descendant thing might never happen but what actually happened is that there’s a huge earthquake that destroyed the city of Chiang Saen which caused it to sink under the river and become Thale Sap Chiang Saen Lake in the present day.
That's fascinating, thanks for the details!
I think you are mistaken about the timeline of the story. The Naga story took place long before Mangrai’s lifetime.
The story said after the Naga sank the city and killed all royalty, the survivors of the incident gathered and found a new city called “Wiang Perksa” first.
Wiang Perksa was a city ruled by an elected Chief Villager showing the early form of direct democracy of the Middle Ages era of Thai history.
Wiang Perksa continued to rule with this system until the Burmese King announced the calendar reform and asked his neighboring Kingdoms to join his reformation. Since Wiang Perksa was not ruled by a king or any royalty, so God sent a king from heaven to be Wiang Perksa’s ruler, and consequently Wiang Perksa could join the reformation.
This new king established his dynastic rules over Wieng Perksa as the “Lao Dynasty” and King Magrai is the 25th king descendant of the Lao Dynasty.
During the Lao Dynasty rules, the name of the city was changed from “Wiang Perksa” to “Hiran” and then moved to a new city called “Ngoenyang”
Finally, in King Mangrai’s reign, he united the smaller independent city-states in the Kok River Basin that descended from the Yonok Kingdom under his direct rule and found “Chiang Rai” as a new capital.
Then finally he conquered the Hariphuchai Kingdom and found “Chiang Mai” as a new capital again. After then his dynasty became known as the “Mangrai Dynasty”.
His name is Menghai Mengrai is a Siamese. The people of ChiangMai say Menghai and call the city as ChiangHai or XiengHai.
The Taiyuan people have ancestors from southern China(Yunnan Province) =South Chinese
Very good content 👍
Thanks for the content suggestion!
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Great to hear, albeit brief, mention of The Karen people, especially as today just happens to be Karen New Year 2763!
8:35 The funny part is that people only offer the spirits strawberry flavor as well. No orange fanta or sprite or coca cola.
Equally as funny is that Thailand is the top importer of strawberry Fanta and Thai spirits are the largest consumers
Cola is reserved for Phra Rahu.
back then before merg with Bankkok goverment and become Thailand the Northern Thailand is knowing as Lanna Kingdom they have really close relationship with Laos or back then know as Lan Xang so Lanna is million of rice field and Lan Xang is Million of elephant and Lan Xang it's also have a good relationship with Ayutthaya so Thailand back than is Krung-ayothaya-sri-ram-tep-nakorn or Krung-tep-daravadi-sri-ram-tep-nakorn by all mean Kingdom of Rama and on the other side of Kong river is Krug-sri-sat-ta-na-ka-na-hut wish translate to Great Kingdom of million elephant or shortly is Lan Xang ( million elephant )
so since Lanna and Lan Xang has a good relationship and after Siam conquer Lanna and LanXang we call them both "Laos" but there's also have a detail to call them specific like Black belly laos or "White belly laos witch comes from their signature tattoo that we called "morm"(มอม) accully there's still a lot more detail but that's all for now
Black belly lao were northern thai aka lanna and northern lao luang prabang people. white belly lao were anyone from Viengchan downward to southern lao
I went to Chiang mai and I don’t know that it is part of Lanna kingdom
Imagine The Burmese just paid tribute to the Qing Emperor instead of going against him, the Burmese Empire would have kept the Lana Kingdom as a vessel into the 19th century possibly integrated into British Burma
Indeed, there could have been a very different outcome for Lanna.
After being integrated into British Burma, combined with the Tai population of Shan State making the population of the Tai people would be higher and stronger to even counterpoise the Burmese. And finally, lead to the fall of the Union of Myanmar since the Tai people of Shan State along with the other ethnic minorities support each other's independence movements.
@@samomanawat Tai may have high population, but they were never centralized. They were ruled by Federated chieftains & princes only. Even today, they are fragmented and fighting eachother in Myanmar
@@CrimsonAlchemist That is true for Shan State, but not in the case of Lanna which has centralized administration.
After all, those Federated Shan City States still support independence altogether as well.
Hack if they did not have to deal with the Chinese The Konbaung Empire would have keep control over all of Thailand and Laos. Which means they would not have needed to invade Assam which caused the first Anglo-Burmese war.
Tell the whole history.
Thai history has a lot of stuff. the story of the Rama’s has a little bit of everything haha
Red fanta = Blood for spirits
*ancient Hindu traditions
Lanna culture is heavily influenced by Burmese the festivals in Lanna are also Burmese festivals celebrated according to Burmese Calender : Burmese calender is used by Lanna , Siam , xishaungpaana up to 1889.onOnce Lanna was Burmese rules and water festival was celebrated there only of all Siam , others parts of Siam never celebrated as much .
Now Thai gov cunningly took Burmese water festival as their and even tried to get unesco heritages which is unforgivable discreditable act of Thai gov and corrupted UNESCO.
Tai people in GuangXi, China also celebrate water festival. You need to blame CCP also. Stupid punk😎
Not Burmese but Tai! I understand Tai people speaking more than Burmese.
Because Lanna Kingdom and Lan Xang Kingdom are the past of Siam. Siam king relationships with those Kingdom become Siam country and continues to Thailand so Lanna people and Lan Xang people they are Thai citizenship , the culture mean people continued to generation to new generations and never stop developing until becoming their own identity and their own Traditional culture so Thai people have strong existing relationships with their culture until become popular culture all over the world know Thailand 🇹🇭 Thai Songkran Festival, Thai Loy krathong Festival. If Thailand don't have any DNA of people from Lanna and Lan Xang Thailand nowadays will never develop Songkran Festival or water festival in Thailand country. But Songkran Festival thailand in UNESCO because Thai people also have the people that owned the water culture too.
Some paintings you used are of Burmese kingdom’ . Lanna got buddism from Bagan Burmese empire and AVa Burmese kingdom . Lanna is not the source of Buddhism for Southeast Asia. Learn about Pyu Theravada Buddhism kingdom and the Bagan Theravada Buddhist empire. ( the continuation of Pyu Theravada Buddhism) Much earlier before Lanna even formeD . Even in 15th century 16 century AD much of tai ehthics provinces are not Buddhist and AVa Burmese kingdom had to sent monks and give Buddha manuscripts as missionaries.
You can read in research paper Tai polities in Mekong region tributary relationship between China and burma by V. Grabosky in which you will see tai ethnics got written scripts and Buddhism from Burmese AVaKingdom : many tai are still animist even in 14th century.
Are you one of stupid khmer fellow? How about khmer and Burmese now? Both are crawling into Thailand for refuge and work. If you still have the history view like absurd khmer, you wouldn't be able to develop. Unlike Vietnamese - They look forward and find cooperation to lift people's life standard with Thai.
With your current perspective, that's why many minority ethnic groups are trying to fight for their independent. It's the same reason why Burmese kingdom were colonized by British empire. Arrogant !!! Burmese kingdom had been long gone bro.
As Thai, we don't give a shit about conflicts in the past btw Burma and Siam. Only goodwill for people in nowaday Mynmar. We don't want to join any conflicts in Mynmar but it spilled over to us. As Buddhism, we also don't want to see those refuge suffer. So we help them as much as we can. Meanwhile we have to stablize our society due to influx of refuge that cuase a lot social problems.
Don't make our view toward Mynmar shift from current position. Many of them are good people but lack opportunity. Our government is considering and trying to find solution for them to stay legally and provide some services or even Thai citizenship. Actually it's not that hard to assimilate them into our society. I'm sure many of them have ancestors from Yodia or Mon or Shan (Tai-Yai). We don't care about land anymore. Just preserve what we currently have. Human resources are far more sustainable than natural resources.
@@Tiaimo their education and knowledge is not to be trusted and there not reliable and their school ranking is currently placed at #138
It's not all there
Siam is a western name not what they call themselfs
It's name of the land/region siam mean golden in Sanskrit
Siam has nothing to do with what the people were or are called.
the original language of Lanna /chiangmai are Lao languages
Yes, indeed. It is a related language that many still learn in Lanna region
No… Lanna’s language is tai language or kammueang not Laos language
Nice claim wow
They're tai yuan
The Lanna people are not Laos. The ancestors of the Lanna people (immigrated from Yunnan Province, China) Lanna is Bai Yue. The Zhuang people also have an ancestor, Bai Yue.
Lanna are white and light skin color people. Rest of Thailand is mix Mon khmer darker tan skin people.
The Taiyuan people have ancestors from southern China(Yunnan Province) =South Chinese
No. I’m Isaan & got white ass skin
Your white ass skin comes from Lao ancestors. The dark tan from Mon Khmer mixing
@@gaping_bussy I'm pale as hell and I'm mixed Northern Thai and Han chinese. My mother is very pale and shes from the Northern Thai region.
@@niallahorana3377 it varies in general tbh
Lanna are Lao people, Ayutthaya chronicles called them Lao people, Mengrai Fathers name is LaoMeng. Linguistic studies and Any old map published in Siam before 1899 (before the Nationalist movement) or any Ayuthaya periods label the regions of Lanna or ChiangMai called that region as being occupied by Lao people. They were called the Lao Tong Dam by other Tai groups bc the men tattooed their bellies. TaiYuan is a modern day nationalist term, no one calls themselves TaiYuan in nothern Thailand, it doesn’t exist, Yuan is a term that refers to Mongols, if anything they say they are KonMuang.
Tai-Yuan comes from Yonok Chiang Saen. What are you talking about! Yonok kingdom exisited before Lanna. That's why we called ourself Tai-Yuan. Konmuang is a 200 year name when Lanna joined Siam we started to called ourself to let the Siamese seeing we're not just peoples living in the mountain. Konmuang meaning as it sound, city people.
And black belly Tai/Lao or white doesnt matter. That's how the Siamese called us doesnt mean it's correct just because they can't distinguished 2 group of Tai ethnic. Doesnt mean we are as what they label us to be.
@@bloodyoctober9939 yonok and yuan are not the same, Yuan refers to Mongolians. Yuan as in Yuannan which is just fabricated. All the Kings of Yonok call themselves Lao, MengHai’s father name is LaoMeng. There is No Tai people, Tai is a Lao word that refers to a location, Tai Neau means natives from the North, Tai Theau means natives from the south. taiMuang means natives from the city. So TaiYuan is just a reference that they came from Yunnan but that is fabricated bc according to the Chronicles of ChiangMai they came from MuangThenh which is Dien Bien Phu Northern Vietnam. Yuannan is what the Mongols renamed Nanchao after they conquered it. yonok was in Northern Laos in the province of Bokeo. The dialect spoken in Lanna is a Northern Lao dialect. The dialect spoken in Sukothai was a dialect that originated from the region of Loungprabang, the Dialect of Ayutthaya is a dialect that came from Xiengkhouang. These came from linguistics studies.
@@bloodyoctober9939 the Chronicles of ChiangMai was rewritten and translated by the ultra nationalist Prince Damroung, many of his translations are fabrications, his job was to rewrite history to create the foundations for Siam. The original manuscript are not available to researchers or academics. The historical records of ChiangMai, Lanna and Yonok was rewritten by Siamese nationalists. That’s the history you know about. The Shan mountains in Northern Thailand is really called the AiLaoShan or AiLao Mountains. Shan means mountain, again nationalist propaganda. The central government forced Leaders, Monks and teachers from the north to be sent to central Siam to be reeducate.
@@tingtingnoy3133 yuan and yonok are the same thing if you aren’t Thai people you don’t know about this. Laos people call northern Thai “yuan” that why northern Thai is not Laos. Northern Thai and Laos we are closer but we not the same nationality or ethnicity we are Tai kadai or Tai people group
@@tingtingnoy3133Do not confuse Tai- Yuan (pronounce Yuān) and Yuan Dynasty that is Mongols (pronounce Yuán)
And Yuan dynasty existed after the kingdom of Yonok Chieng Saen. Before the Yuan dynasty, Han Chinese were still ruling China, so no, it's not Mongols term.
Thai people have been here for thousands of years. Thai people are not from southern China. As for Thai people, they use Tai Kadai language and Lao language, Khom language. and Pali Sanskrit acquired in Thai language The Khmers had no empire and were just slaves to the Khom people. Siem-Khom-Lanna were relatives before uniting to become Siam.
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@@rightlibertarian4412 คุณกำลังจะบอกว่าพื้นที่ประเทศไทยในปัจจุบันนี้อดีคไม่เคยมีคนอยู่ในพื้นที่นี้เลย แต่ในทางกลับกันคนเขมร ไม่มีอาณาจักร ก็มาจากเกาะชวาเป็นแค่ทาสของคนขอม คนเขมรก็อย่าปฏิเสธเลย แต่คนสยามขอมพูดภาษาไทกระได เป็นคนพื้นถิ่งทั้งแต่จีนตอนล่างจนถึงอ่าวไทย กลุ่มล้านนา สิบสองปันนา อีสานและลาว เวียดนามตอนบน มาอย่างยาวนาน จากการค้นพบหลักฐานในปัจจุบัน ส่วนอคติที่คุณพูดเป็นประวัติศาสตร์ที่ฝรั่งเศสเขียนเพื่อให้เขมรมีความภูมิใจในชนชาติแล้วเขียนว่าสยามมาจากจีนจึงไม่แปลก แต่คนสยามโบราณอย่าง อาณาจักรศรีเทพต่อด้วยอาณาจักรทวารวดี อาณาจักรพิมาย ถึงนครวัด สุโขทัย อยุธยา ยังเป็นผู้ปกครองกัมพูชา
@@sodazaa3108 เวลาศึกษาประวัติศาสตร์ อย่าศึกษาจากช่องยูทูปบิดเบี้ยวสิค้าบ มนุษย์ที่ใช้ภาษา Austro Asiatic อพยพเข้ามาที่ลุ่มแม่น้ำเจ้าพระยาและโตนเลสาป 6-7 ปีก่อน มนุษย์ไท กระได อพยพเข้ามา 4 พันปีก่อน และลงมาในลุ่มแม่น้ำเจ้าพระยา 2 พันปีก่อน มันจะไปเข้าใจยากอะไร เมื่อก่อนพื้นที่ตรงนี้เป็นทะเลมาก่อนพอน้ำลดคนถึงเดินทางมาได้ แล้วจะมาเขมรมาขอมอะไรอีก บันทึกขอมให้ภาษาไทย เขียนเหรอ ไอที่ในจารึกขอม เมี่ยงปร๊ะ โจล เบียล ประมัญ นี่ภาษาตระกูลไหนคุณก็น่าจะพอตอบได้ หรือจะบอกว่าเมื่อก่อนคนไทยใช้ภาษาเมี่ยงปร๊ะสื่อสาร สยามคือทวารวดีแล้วไปช่วยสร้างนครวัดก็เท่านั้น แต่ถามว่าใครสร้าง บอกว่าขอมสร้าง แต่ขอมเป็นคนไทยรึเปล่าไม่ใช่แน่นอน ขอมมันพูดเขมร แล้วหนีตายมาร่วมสร้างอยุธยา อย่าสับสนขอร้อง
The Lanna people are not Laos. The ancestors of the Lanna people (immigrated from Yunnan Province, China) Lanna is Bai Yue. The Zhuang people also have an ancestor, Bai Yue.
I could tell you are the most prejudice and racist against the Khmer people, which is your ancestors Khmer-Mon >> Khom >>>Siame to today Thai (mixed race) Lao is the only real Tai race. My nationality is Cambodian but my blood DNA is about 39% from Khmer-Mon and Siamese or modern day Thai. I would like to hate the Thai too but for what? Just like I’m insulting my own ancestors.
Lana belongs to Laos they r Laos not Thai Lana and lanxang they r Laos u have to find out dipper about history go to Laos history not Thai history they all lie
Gorgeous education from Laos communist by Nguyen Kai sorn promvihan 👏👏
Wrong! Lao people and Northern Thai are very different. Y'all cant even understand day to day conversation 😂 also I did DNA ncestry and my results came out Tai and Han Chinese. No Lao DNA.
I think ur lanna history is much of Thai rewritten version which is full of unreliable facts , and omitting of true history
Bruh you gotta back that up with some points to go off of atleast
Fake history.
How
Nah
Cambodia fake a country, have no identity their just shadow of Thailand copying everything Thailand does
Spirit houses originated from the Mon people from my research 🦢
Interesting read about Lanna thesiamsociety.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/JSS_103_0m_KenKirigaya_LannaUnderBurma.pdf
Thanks for sharing! I'll have to read it