@@Missusjones Lmao and that is saying alot lol my thoughts were, Puke... CD makes me sick. He just looks like a creepy individual and now the whole world knows he is one creepy individual w a creepy following.
My heart shatters watching Kay and Larry in the background of this legal circus. They are the whole reason those kids were found. Such good people and they don't deserve to be going through this.
I agree in what you are saying-- my soul has all been so shattered for them; But, being there at trial is going to help them in the future try to heal --I am thank ful we get to see it, too. We are strangers--but, our minds will be needing peace of mind, too, in the long run.
She comes across as a more meek or weak person, but she wasn't afraid to hold lori accountable for the things she did. I like how she told Lori that they were not talking about her when Lori was trying to change the subject. I wish she had connected the dots before Charles was murdered, because I genuinely believe she was buying what Lori was selling until it was way too late to save anyone. It was the call from chad asking her to lie about JJ slapped her with reality. Supposedly her boyfriend also did his share of trying to reprogram her, the evidence is in the call because Lori clearly knows he is no longer a true believer. There is a report/rumor that Melani's boyfriend was at one of their meetings/gatherings and he stormed out saying they were apostates or something. I don't have a date on that supposed meeting but it had to have happened between the day JJ disappeared and this phone call.
I actually shuddered from my head to my toes when Lori said he(JJ) was safe and "Happy" and we all know that is not the case as he was dead and buried. My body would just not accept what my ears were hearing.
@80% I have probably not followed this case as closely as you so Oma ask for you to fill me in on why Melinie is a liar, everybody painting her as a hero. I need a clear honest person to clue me in.
@@zoezzzarko1117 its a common phrase in the church, to testify is basically swearing on your faith. Certain times during Sunday service, members voluntarily stand before the congregration and "bear their testimony, that they know the church is true..." then they add personal reasons and revelations about what their faith has done for them or loved ones. Chad is probably referencing his faith testimony to back up the lie he's about to spew.
He says his son Garth was with him the entire time. I thought he woke up and found Tammy dead. Did Garth sleep in the same room with them? And so what if his kids were there in 20 minutes. Why wouldn't they rush over? Just more poorly done, pointless manipulation, just like his junk writing.
When Lori said "I wish I never included you in those teachings for your own safety and I wish you didn't have as much knowledge as you have. Because you will be accountable for the knowledge that you do have, Mel". I felt that was a threat.
The witness is a strong woman. She followed her instincts and spelled out what appropriate Christian behavior is and theirs was not. Good thing she recorded the conversation.
She had too or she would have been implicated. She only went to the police tovcya The pokicw recorded this. This woman is culpable on many levels. So is the other Melani. Lori's niece. There's tons of accyrate information on east Idaho news. She makes me ill.
@@ajordan1976 she let this continue for a long time and she could have saved those children because she knew Charles was murdered. I was pretty shocked to find out that initially Melanie lied to the police and said JJ was with her. The other thing that bothers me is that Melanie is loving the attention even if it is over something so gruesome. She has never one time admitted that she could have prevented all of this from happening if she went to the police earlier
@@beckydennis6591 I'm barely able to sit through her interviews with east Idaho news. She's culpable on many levels. Positive she cut a deal. Yes, she wasted precious time.
@@babe1er, Typical narcissist behavior. Out of concern, Melanie is asking questions about J.J.'s wellbeing and Lori becomes automatically defensive. First indication of a narcissist is they immediately jumb the gun and become defensive, and angry about just general questions that may tint their character. It seems like Lori had already rehearsed and prepared herself for a possible interaction with Melanie. That is another thing that narcissists do is they premeditate and plan out their schemes beforehand to be prepared, just like she was a murder accomplish to Tyree and J.J.'s demise.
Bonnie Lee ~ Exactly! I’d also like to ask Chad’s kids if they ever feared for their lives. Has he ever called them “zombies”? I see Chad & Lori as very weak minded, self righteous, evil people who were so caught up in their gross fictitious romance that they went as far as to murder anyone who questioned their bizarre beliefs. Melany should count herself lucky that she came to her senses later in their game (with police on their tail) or she would have been one of their victims that died “mysteriously”. Sick!
How they aren’t all shaking their Heads in disbelief is beyond me. I feel like I’m rattling my brain loose from shaking it by the disbelief of these monsters audacity. Absolutely incredibly disgusting.
Missy Marie I haven’t counted the number of times the Woodcocks shake their head, or look shocked by what they are hearing, but you can be sure this is heartbreaking for them. I have done all of the above with a lot of rolling my eyes, and I don’t even know any of them. For that I am grateful, or I would be on trial too.
I agree that Alex died at their hands! Smh I just can't believe his autopsy doesn't prove that! Just bc he had other health problems, in my heart, I know that's not what killed him. They just can't find it.. I keep holding on to hope that they just have not released ALL the autopsy report! To give Chad and Lori false relief ..know what I mean?
@@chasity71mvp19 im sure they used something undetectable that caused the lung/heart issue or whatever it was that killed him. No doubt in my mind. I think they had Zulema marry him so that she could do that part, actually.
@@backtoasimplelife Pulmonary emboli - a blot clot that lodges in the lungs. The only meds I know that can possibly cause them are hormone supplements and NSAIDs.
I'd be pissed too if my friend lied to the police about my having her missing son then telling me to lie to police about missing son being with me and telling me to take pictures of random kids to further corroborate lies...what SANE friend does that? Seriously!
This whole conversation, Melanie is probing about info for the kids. As soon as Chad talks, his first concern is cover his base about Tammy. Trying cover his own ass is how I took that. Shows alot.
I agree. I have followed this from the beginning. Blows my mind. I think Lori just wanted to run off and be free of any responsibility. I just don't get, Tylee was almost of legal age. She could have lived with her brother for a year. JJ obviously had family who would have gladly taken him. She could have gave them up and had her life, without killing them and others.
That call was so disturbing. Lori is a horrible person. Chad is a horrible person. I’m proud of Melanie for trying and throwing the truth at them. Lori literally could not handle it.
Melanie lied to police and said she saw JJ Vallow when police were doing their welfare check and he was nowhere to be found.. She was obstructing justice and was caught and thats the only reason she turned around and helped the police.
Mormon morons these day bell dumbbells are taking the roller coaster to hell. The belief of a Mormon won’t save your soul you will see. These Mormons broke the commandments no room for them In heaven
she's just a freaking accomplice of it all. did you watch her interview? she says that the kids "passed away". We can't she say "murdered" ? she's full of S
"Anyone who knows is in danger" was Chad and Lori's way of saying anyone who knows of the murder of JJ will be killed off by Chad and Lori. They were literally telling Melanie. When this phone call was made was Alex still alive? If he was, then he had to be killed by them because Alex said to Melanie, " She did not want to know and that JJ could not be found. It was Alex's way of telling Melanie that JJ was dead.
mary perry 🤨 Now that truly makes it even more interesting. Lori & Chad hear what Alex told Melanie about JJ then 4 days later he is dead...hmmm I wonder if the prosecutor has made that coincidence known?
6:24: Lori: I know exactly where he is. He is perfectly safe and happy. Me now: He was dead at this point wrapped in plastic in a shallow grave. Shouldn’t that be admission that she knew exactly what was going on and conspired to keep him away from Kay whatever means necessary?
She still bald faced lied to authorities. I’m glad she recorded this conversation but I’m not surprised in the least that she and Lori became fast friends. Cross should be interesting.
Lori is so combative and disgusting...wow where is the fake voice?!!! Anything she can’t answer she says “it’s what the lord or god wants or instructs me to do”🙄 I wish these people would stop using their fake religion to make it seem justifiable to do whatever evil they want to do.
Wow. He just admitted that tammy went downhill slowly and had been "sick" for a long time. What do you want to bet he was drugging her so that she would die since she didn't die when he predicted she would. He had to speed up the process in order to marry Lori. I hope they are able to connect the dots and fry them both for all of those deaths. They are both sitting there having that conversation refusing to say where JJ was knowing he was dead and buried on Chads property. Its just disgusting.
@@kerrycavanaugh4268 They had said both kids were "zombies". Their cult says zombies must be killed to free the original soul that was possessed by the zombie!
She didnt actually get her hands dirty! Duh, she is smarter than that. Let's manipulate poor old little brother, the gay one who hides his sexuality because he "brings shame to the family". Let's get him to actually, physically carry out my "dark" bidding, to eliminate one by one the expendable, unnecessary baggage that clings to me, almost for dear life, like I am their mother or something, YUCK! I did nothing wrong, I promise you! Infact, maybe the world is a better place now!! Theres no more stupid Charles accusing people of being crazy, no more bitchy teenager who thinks she know more than her elders do. Most of all no more clingy, needy, plain in the ass kid to bother with. Infact, that bitch Kay will get a taste of her own medicine!! How does it feel to get something you love ripped from you??? I mean she TOOK MY RIGHTS AWAY!! she took away any rights i have to my money! I mean if it weren't for me,...uh, I mean Ned Schneider, she wouldn't even have that $ in the first place. I did NOTHING wrong-I promise!
I get the feeling that Lori actually believes she did nothing wrong. I'll bet until the bitter end up until she stands before God or the devil she will believe that she is the victim. And totally righteous just bcuz she is there great Lori. I also believe that she killed her kids with her own hands... and still thinks she's righteous. And totally justified in all her murders... and that she would have killed Melanie too if she could and thought she needed to.
@@mirzamay yep Night of 22nd Sept. What if... Alex did bring him in to put him to bed and...JJ without this dog there to comfort him is "playing up" whilst David and melan8e and Lori are trying to record their precious podcast.... did Lori leave to go upstairs...and taped up JJ?
Dachdog Genesis 22 :: NIV. Some time later God tested Abraham. ... Then God said, "Take your son, your only son, Isaac, whom you love, and go to the region of Moriah. Sacrifice him there as a burnt offering on one of the mountains I will tell you about."
@@petuniaandpoppy4615 Then in another part of the Bible it says God does not test you.I believe in God and Christians usually say the Bible had no contradictions but I have read it all several times and parts many, many times and I can see contradictions.
@@Dachdogoriginal cool, except you're wrong. You are spreading lies. They absolutely do read and quote from the king James version of the bible as well as the book of Mormon. Chad and Lori are murderers and adulterers and their little group is not practicing the teachings of the church of Jesus Christ of latter day saints.
Dachdog The Bible is an immoral book as well. The fact that people get so confused is because they think it’s a virtue to believe in something for which there is no good evidence. And if you believe in some things without evidence then it’s easy to believe in more crazy made up stuff.
Law enforcement and chaplains etc must have daily really touched basis with them and helped them stay strong, feel invaluable. I agree--their composure is so intense. I am stunned with all the stress they haven't gotten C19, a heart attack or anything medical. I pray they don't in the future--no matter what they hear or see or face.
Melanie ain't no hero. She knew all about the dark & light rating system and she KNEW Lori thought Tylee & JJ were zombies. She did what she did to save her own ass. End of story.
Absolutely sounded 100% that Melanie knew something happened to JJ....to me it sounded like she had knowledge of exactly what happened or knew “something” Lori literally said- Mel you’re going to be hald accountable for what you know too!! Something like that.... Is Lori talking about Melanie will be held accountable by God or by the police??? I wonder....🤔🤔🤔
I don't think any of you can say she knows, and blah blah.... You have no idea how they spoke on a normal basis. This honestly sounds like the podcast I heard. We can all speculate. Chad and Lori are guilty, Melanie, that's speculation aka pointless.....
Lori definitely switched from fake brainwashing to a ‘how dare you question me’ defensive mood! Lori: “I’m sorry you feel that way sweetheart”...she might as well cuss Melanie out it would be less ridiculous sounding.
@@judyives1832 I think Mel knew they were guilty and only spoke out to save her own ass. I dont think we would have ever heard from her had Chad and Lori not tried to implicate her.
Judy Ives Whats your definition of a Bible Thumper? Someone who reads it regularly, studies it, and tries to do what it says, and believed every word is the inerrant word of God? And tries to share it with others because we are told to and because we know it’s true in our lives? Then, I am a proud Bible Thumper. And these people are evil or deceived at best.
@@JessStone-hl8ed He can't get away with that because he had texted his wife Tammy and said he had killed a squirrel and was burying it but I don't remember if he had also told her he was burning it too, oh yes he is going down.
It's called high blood pressure for a reason. I can only imagine the pressure his heart is under knowing his ass is for sure in a sling. Knowing he will spend the rest of his life behind bars justifiably is turning him red.
So sad I feel so bad for the grandparents I can see how hard this is for them to hear this. I hope there is justice in the horrible series of events. Makes me mad the smug look on Chads face!
Back in the day, people looked crazy because they were crazy and it was ok. These days they are well dressed with lipstick and clean clothes this is incredible!
“Honey you’ve got a lot of natural desires. We all know that” 😩 BURN!! This recording makes me love Melanie even if she blew this whole call with her horrible lying lol.
I laughed out loud every time Chad's idiot attorney felt the need to say anything to him or to write anything to him during this recording. Neither of you two idiots are in line for an Oscar.
And that is what bothers me the most. This is a 20 minute conversation about scriptures & faith instead of WHERE the HELL is your son & daughter???? Makes you wonder if she has a conscience or if she's truly that cold. 🥶
Lori's speech and vocabulary sound like a 13 year old. "Glad you are friends with people that are against me." Jfc 🤦♀️Glad MG actually stuck up for herself
Genesis 22 :: NIV. Some time later God tested Abraham. ... Then God said, "Take your son, your only son, Isaac, whom you love, and go to the region of Moriah. Sacrifice him there as a burnt offering on one of the mountains I will tell you about."
I hope everyone lets up on Melanie now. If this doesn't prove she cared for JJ, nothing will. I don't understand why hasn't Tylee been mentioned tho? Anyway thank you Melanie, I feel she is going to be a big part in convicting these 2
Tylee wasn’t mentioned because at the point of the phone call, Tylee wasn’t known to be missing. JJ was only reported by his grandmother, Kay, who isn’t biologically related to Tylee. It was only through investigating JJ as missing they discovered Tylee was also missing.
See the police interview with lori and tylee. That girl was protective of her mother. It's so heinous that concern was no returned and the poor girl was instead horribly murdered.
When she said how J.J. is perfectly fine and happy and she knew he was dead. it really made me so angry and heartbroken. You can clearly see to what level her lies and evilness goes. She call herself a celestial being. Woooow. Unbelievable!!!! And Melanie really has some "balls" to confronts those psychos. She really didn't hold anything back and she was so smart and brave. And Lori was hiding behind their cult and Chad was using his own children to cover up that he murdered his own wife. They make sick to my stomach.
Man, Melanie went way harder to Lori's face than she did on the show. She was talking good mostly on the show about Lori but on here she let it all out.
I have so much respect for her for that honestly. She didnt actually know and she didnt speculate publically, she only said what she knew for sure and what she hoped publically but she was straight up with them.
Without focusing on the religious beliefs, Melanie showed some guts. She respected Chad and Lori and believed that they were on the same path. I have watched her in one interview grapple with complicated feelings , in an other seemed free of their influences and finally was a solid and focused witness. She is the best witness the prosecution has.
Genesis 22 :: NIV. Some time later God tested Abraham. ... Then God said, "Take your son, your only son, Isaac, whom you love, and go to the region of Moriah. Sacrifice him there as a burnt offering on one of the mountains I will tell you about."
@@petuniaandpoppy4615 he didnt want him to do it. He just asked him to. He interfered and stopped him. The lesson? Understand the sacrifice God was going to make with his own son, and also , to have faith that God knew his purpose and to be obedient. God provided a ram. He has never had a human make a sacrifice to him of another human. Lori is also not in ANY covenant with God to kill her children. James 1:13.
Not A Snack yes we believe in the Bible and use it conjointly with the Book of Mormon which is Another Testament of Jesus Christ. It contains other ancient history that preaches of Christ. You can find the re-enactment of those accounts on short clips on UA-cam.
When Chad was listening to himself on three phone call, I noticed his face turned red. Also when Lori was telling Melanie that she would have to answer for her disbelieving Her when that stuff was to happen(and it didn't)and Chad knew that everyone now knows he was a fake. Ya, he looked like he wanted to crawl under the table. Both of them now caught out and is about time!
I know---the saving grace is that they were the ones that started reaching out re: "It's been too long since we have physically seen/heard the the two children". I accidentally came across this "situation" in online newspaper back around early December or so. I just wish that lying, deception in a wide range but very specific circumstances could be a felony crime. In this case they both could have possibly been arrested earlier and the same whole picture would have still been piece by piece factually "revealed". By the time the Lori Vall arrest for child endangerment came along,....I was in shreds in having followed the articles for months. What if the Woodcock grandparents did not exist--this situation would have been even worse, worse re: arresting and prosecuting. Also, if, if, if Tylee or JJ had been adults....and Tylee identifying and not wanting to be around her mother... Adult victims many times commit suicide when their abuser isn't even on police radar, too. Someone else calling police is exponentially huge beyond words. This set of grandparents --thank God they acted. Who knows where these two ""inmates" would be right now--if these two grandparents had not acted. I really wish there were specific felony laws for lying in a variety of situations.
Chad Daybell did not get his tracing from the Holy Bible.He got his teachings from the Book of Mormon.The Book of Mormon is entirely different from the Bible.The Book of Mormon was deciphered by Joseph Smith from golden plates he claimed the angel Moroni gave him.He deciphered these looking through a hat using what he called a ulm and thurmon whatever the heck those were and he had a scribe write down what he interpreted.He was what they call a flim fam man before this.He read people's fortunes out of a hat.He and his book of Mormon have perpetuated one of the biggest cons ever on the world.In no way can you compare the Holy Bible to the Book of Mormon.
Well she knows that what she is doing is Evil Lori just thinks they will get away with it. She has never had to be accountable for her actions in life. She and a Chad are sad excuses for human beings!
That phone call was Awesome! I'm a Melanie Gibb's fan for sure! Plus, you have to admit her hair looked fantastic today! She ran circles around Lori and Chad and the BS they were peddling... Chad sounded like such a wimp on that call... Who would ever call that guy charismatic? Lori was the charismatic one on that phone call but she was no match for Melanie! Too bad all those innocent souls had to be killed before they were brought to justice!
"Sweet Melanie," how freaking creepy is this guy on so many levels?
christina is the best yeah, yuck! Lol 🤮
They are all so fake to each other nothing ever real
@@Missusjones Lmao and that is saying alot lol my thoughts were, Puke... CD makes me sick. He just looks like a creepy individual and now the whole world knows he is one creepy individual w a creepy following.
He is flattering her . He really doesn’t like her
manipulating fuck
I BELIEVE MELANIE WAS SO CLOSE TO BEING NAMED A ZOMBIE TOO
Melanie was a zombie with a target on her head straight after the call
She’s lucky they are both behind bars otherwise she be next!
Pshaw... about 10:00 mark in I thinks that’s when they decided she was a “zombie”
they deffinetly wrote her down when the accusations of recorded phone calls and police were mentioned. So glad she survived.
Yes, that is why she hid for all those months. She had a valid reason to fear. Even at the time she only knew about Charles and Tammy's death.
Man did you see how hard lori turned on melanie. She was snapping like a twig in an ice storm.
“Snapping like a twig in an ice storm” hahaha yup she was!
Yep like most controlling MormonMommyDearests. Raising kids out of fear for social and religious status!
I'm gonna remember that line and maybe use it sometime. "snapping like a twig in an ice storm". Love it! :-)
@ConvergenceOfCatastrophes they're trying to rid their self of guilt by putting some kind of blame on Mel. Typical assholes.
My heart shatters watching Kay and Larry in the background of this legal circus. They are the whole reason those kids were found. Such good people and they don't deserve to be going through this.
I agree in what you are saying-- my soul has all been so shattered for them; But, being there at trial is going to help them in the future try to heal --I am thank ful we get to see it, too. We are strangers--but, our minds will be needing peace of mind, too, in the long run.
Heart shattering it is 💔💔💔
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Brilliant. Go melanie, put that liar in her place.
She comes across as a more meek or weak person, but she wasn't afraid to hold lori accountable for the things she did. I like how she told Lori that they were not talking about her when Lori was trying to change the subject.
I wish she had connected the dots before Charles was murdered, because I genuinely believe she was buying what Lori was selling until it was way too late to save anyone. It was the call from chad asking her to lie about JJ slapped her with reality. Supposedly her boyfriend also did his share of trying to reprogram her, the evidence is in the call because Lori clearly knows he is no longer a true believer. There is a report/rumor that Melani's boyfriend was at one of their meetings/gatherings and he stormed out saying they were apostates or something. I don't have a date on that supposed meeting but it had to have happened between the day JJ disappeared and this phone call.
I actually shuddered from my head to my toes when Lori said he(JJ) was safe and "Happy" and we all know that is not the case as he was dead and buried. My body would just not accept what my ears were hearing.
Andrea Green Melanie LIED to the police, too. Such a GOOD CHRISTIAN
And to think Chad cant run and condition Lori! Omg - Cant wait to see her in court !
@80% I have probably not followed this case as closely as you so Oma ask for you to fill me in on why Melinie is a liar, everybody painting her as a hero. I need a clear honest person to clue me in.
Chad overly explaining Tammy's death unprovoked isn't suspicious at all 🙄
And he used the word "testify".
Preparing for trial awfully early there Sparky.
@@zoezzzarko1117 its a common phrase in the church, to testify is basically swearing on your faith. Certain times during Sunday service, members voluntarily stand before the congregration and "bear their testimony, that they know the church is true..." then they add personal reasons and revelations about what their faith has done for them or loved ones.
Chad is probably referencing his faith testimony to back up the lie he's about to spew.
@@Awfurfuksake Ahhhhhhh I see. Ok. Got it.
But the duality of it is ironic 😎
He says his son Garth was with him the entire time. I thought he woke up and found Tammy dead. Did Garth sleep in the same room with them? And so what if his kids were there in 20 minutes. Why wouldn't they rush over? Just more poorly done, pointless manipulation, just like his junk writing.
DianaW Right. He said it was clear she had been dead for a while when he found her.
When Lori said "I wish I never included you in those teachings for your own safety and I wish you didn't have as much knowledge as you have. Because you will be accountable for the knowledge that you do have, Mel". I felt that was a threat.
Totallyyyyy
I was thinking the same thing! There's definitely a threat there.
What Lori never counted on is that she will be held accountable.
Definitely was
That was totally a threat. Then melanie said "so will you. "You could hear melanie drop the mic.
The witness is a strong woman. She followed her instincts and spelled out what appropriate Christian behavior is and theirs was not. Good thing she recorded the conversation.
She had too or she would have been implicated.
She only went to the police tovcya
The pokicw recorded this.
This woman is culpable on many levels.
So is the other Melani. Lori's niece.
There's tons of accyrate information on east Idaho news.
She makes me ill.
@@ajordan1976 she let this continue for a long time and she could have saved those children because she knew Charles was murdered. I was pretty shocked to find out that initially Melanie lied to the police and said JJ was with her. The other thing that bothers me is that Melanie is loving the attention even if it is over something so gruesome. She has never one time admitted that she could have prevented all of this from happening if she went to the police earlier
You should hear the beliefs she upheld in the name of Christ before she was implicated as co conspirator to murder.
@@beckydennis6591 I'm barely able to sit through her interviews with east Idaho news.
She's culpable on many levels.
Positive she cut a deal.
Yes, she wasted precious time.
A V all ears would like to know. Do you have any links?
Lori does not like being stood up to.
U can see how dangerous it is to cross her from this phone call very telling
She would of demanded Melanie's death after this
Typical narcissist... its her way or the highway. Hope she spends life in jail where she belongs.
She's a classic narcissist.
@@babe1er, Typical narcissist behavior. Out of concern, Melanie is asking questions about J.J.'s wellbeing and Lori becomes automatically defensive. First indication of a narcissist is they immediately jumb the gun and become defensive, and angry about just general questions that may tint their character. It seems like Lori had already rehearsed and prepared herself for a possible interaction with Melanie. That is another thing that narcissists do is they premeditate and plan out their schemes beforehand to be prepared, just like she was a murder accomplish to Tyree and J.J.'s demise.
The rage and horror in that grandmother's eyes says it all.
It was traumatic for the grandparents. So sad. I know how much they loved that little boy.
She wanted to jump across and get chad
Oh clue. “Tammy was getting weaker and weaker.” . He must’ve been poisoning her. It will come out! Just watch!
Oh so she was sick, and didn't want to go to the doctor...yeah it was Tammy's fault she died according to Chad Bozo murderer!
He probably wasn't begging her to go to the hospital. He was probably trying to keep her there. I'd like to ask his kids if he was!
Yeap, Chad murdered Tammy gradually by arsenic poisoning.
"there is a grain of truth to every liar's story"
Bonnie Lee ~ Exactly! I’d also like to ask Chad’s kids if they ever feared for their lives. Has he ever called them “zombies”? I see Chad & Lori as very weak minded, self righteous, evil people who were so caught up in their gross fictitious romance that they went as far as to murder anyone who questioned their bizarre beliefs. Melany should count herself lucky that she came to her senses later in their game (with police on their tail) or she would have been one of their victims that died “mysteriously”. Sick!
These people disgust me. Those poor Grandparents. My heart breaks for them.
Mine to
This is really heart-wrenching to watch JJ's grandparents you're so heartbroken and all this Lori broad.. talks about his money money money. 😪😢😥😓☝️🤲❤🌎
How they aren’t all shaking their Heads in disbelief is beyond me.
I feel like I’m rattling my brain loose from shaking it by the disbelief of these monsters audacity.
Absolutely incredibly disgusting.
Missy Marie I haven’t counted the number of times the Woodcocks shake their head, or look shocked by what they are hearing, but you can be sure this is heartbreaking for them. I have done all of the above with a lot of rolling my eyes, and I don’t even know any of them. For that I am grateful, or I would be on trial too.
Well said. 🤢🤯
Totally agree!
It’s called narcissism
I’m worried the punishment will not fit the crimes and if they get out they will kill again
The black widow killed her brother. He was already giving clues: JJ is nowhere to be found.
May justice prevail.
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Definitely!!
I agree that Alex died at their hands! Smh I just can't believe his autopsy doesn't prove that! Just bc he had other health problems, in my heart, I know that's not what killed him. They just can't find it.. I keep holding on to hope that they just have not released ALL the autopsy report! To give Chad and Lori false relief ..know what I mean?
@@chasity71mvp19 im sure they used something undetectable that caused the lung/heart issue or whatever it was that killed him. No doubt in my mind. I think they had Zulema marry him so that she could do that part, actually.
How did she do away with the brother? I thought it was conclusive that he died of a heart attack or something like that.
@@backtoasimplelife Pulmonary emboli - a blot clot that lodges in the lungs. The only meds I know that can possibly cause them are hormone supplements and NSAIDs.
I'd be pissed too if my friend lied to the police about my having her missing son then telling me to lie to police about missing son being with me and telling me to take pictures of random kids to further corroborate lies...what SANE friend does that? Seriously!
They don’t give two shits about her.
Melanie: Is JJ safe?
Lori: He is safe... and happy.
That is so chilling to me. Justice must be served.
This whole conversation, Melanie is probing about info for the kids. As soon as Chad talks, his first concern is cover his base about Tammy. Trying cover his own ass is how I took that. Shows alot.
So true. I can’t wait for the autopsy to come out.
I agree. I have followed this from the beginning. Blows my mind. I think Lori just wanted to run off and be free of any responsibility. I just don't get, Tylee was almost of legal age. She could have lived with her brother for a year. JJ obviously had family who would have gladly taken him. She could have gave them up and had her life, without killing them and others.
Jenna Lee
Yep there was no need to kill those children. It was just a convenience for them.
@@jenhin9840 I wonder when it will come out?
@@jenhin9840 they burnt her.
That call was so disturbing. Lori is a horrible person. Chad is a horrible person. I’m proud of Melanie for trying and throwing the truth at them. Lori literally could not handle it.
Melanie was in with them. She had a podcast explaining everything. She’s just as guilty.
@@ashkarra2507 I agree. she can't possibly as stupid as she acts.
Melanie lied to police and said she saw JJ Vallow when police were doing their welfare check and he was nowhere to be found.. She was obstructing justice and was caught and thats the only reason she turned around and helped the police.
Yep!! TRUE...........Lori and Chad are both satanic.
This call sounds rehearsed to me
The Devil is Real. Look at these two ..Mr. And Mrs. Daybell. Karma is COMING
No. If there was a God, he wouldn't let them dismember children, you pair of morons.
It better be she's pure evil I hate Lori
Can’t wait! Hope they get what they deserve! They’re repulsive 🤮
Mormon morons these day bell dumbbells are taking the roller coaster to hell. The belief of a Mormon won’t save your soul you will see. These Mormons broke the commandments no room for them In heaven
@@artvandelayRFC ok
Wow Melanie is strong
That’s good
I agree. M really stood her ground calmly and rationally. Lori is gas-lighting.
Sara V yes she did such a good job
@ConvergenceOfCatastrophes I agree.
@ConvergenceOfCatastrophes yes. She showed herself to be a good woman. She has more of a backbone than i realized.
Aww my heart is breaking for the grandparents
"Oh honey you got a lot of natural desires, we all know that" this women is good!
they were both screwing Daybell. Its very likely
@@1970karenleah omg picturing that... eeeeeeeew.
Melanie Gibb TOTALLY NAILED IT! Way to go, Melanie! Thank you for all of your courage in this case!!!!
she's just a freaking accomplice of it all. did you watch her interview? she says that the kids "passed away". We can't she say "murdered" ? she's full of S
She is as fucked in the head as the rest of them. These doomsday cultist are dangerous and mentally disturbed.
"Anyone who knows is in danger" was Chad and Lori's way of saying anyone who knows of the murder of JJ will be killed off by Chad and Lori. They were literally telling Melanie. When this phone call was made was Alex still alive? If he was, then he had to be killed by them because Alex said to Melanie, " She did not want to know and that JJ could not be found. It was Alex's way of telling Melanie that JJ was dead.
Yes.
Yup
Alex Cox died December 12, 4 days after this phone call
mary perry 🤨 Now that truly makes it even more interesting. Lori & Chad hear what Alex told Melanie about JJ then 4 days later he is dead...hmmm I wonder if the prosecutor has made that coincidence known?
@@mistylalonde1196 what did he say about JJ to Melanie????
6:24: Lori: I know exactly where he is. He is perfectly safe and happy.
Me now: He was dead at this point wrapped in plastic in a shallow grave.
Shouldn’t that be admission that she knew exactly what was going on and conspired to keep him away from Kay whatever means necessary?
No, because she’ll argue that she thought he actually was somewhere safe and it was her brother who murdered them.
Yes, yes and yes!!!
My estimation of Melanie just went up a few notches. She came across a lot meeker and less credible in the Nate interviews.
She was corroborating so I guess she had to keep zipped
She was on gag order is why. She was doing this for the cops, as they were pressuring her as an accomplice.
She still bald faced lied to authorities. I’m glad she recorded this conversation but I’m not surprised in the least that she and Lori became fast friends. Cross should be interesting.
Zan Psimer what did she lie about? I haven’t heard anything about this..
She lied to authorities when she told them she had had JJ but now didn’t. She just testified to it.
7:40 Lori sounds so defensive...Melanie wasn't accusing her just asking her questions. Very manipulative and deranged.
Lori is so combative and disgusting...wow where is the fake voice?!!! Anything she can’t answer she says “it’s what the lord or god wants or instructs me to do”🙄 I wish these people would stop using their fake religion to make it seem justifiable to do whatever evil they want to do.
I feel dirty just even watching this. sickest living things on the planet.
Pure evil
They are innocent
Wow. He just admitted that tammy went downhill slowly and had been "sick" for a long time. What do you want to bet he was drugging her so that she would die since she didn't die when he predicted she would. He had to speed up the process in order to marry Lori. I hope they are able to connect the dots and fry them both for all of those deaths.
They are both sitting there having that conversation refusing to say where JJ was knowing he was dead and buried on Chads property. Its just disgusting.
I agree!
That statement can definitely be used in his murder trial for Tammy.
Kristina Sullivan, you're insightful! 🌠
He is sick.. hw was just abt sex and lor li has Mental issues just saying
"the reason I'm against corporal punishment is because the human psyche is the best battlefield for punishment" they need to stay in prison, alive.
I think she killed JJ
as revenge to Kay for getting Charles Money
You may have something there.
@@NatalieRealEstate I think your right
How do you explain Tylee?
Kerry Cavanaugh I think Tylee was “acting up” in their eyes.
@@kerrycavanaugh4268 They had said both kids were "zombies". Their cult says zombies must be killed to free the original soul that was possessed by the zombie!
He sounds like another infamous cult leader, Warren Jeffs.
yes he does!!😳
True that!! RLDS, FLDS, LDS - Preparing the people! For ?........
Or Charles Manson.
David Koresh.
KitteN MittOnS The FLDS we’re smart enough to not go around murdering peeps. Lots and lots of crimes and enemies as well but that wasn’t their MO.
Lori Daybell...."I promise you I have done nothing wrong in this case."
Jimmy Gingo you notice how she paused after saying i promise you ...
She didnt actually get her hands dirty! Duh, she is smarter than that. Let's manipulate poor old little brother, the gay one who hides his sexuality because he "brings shame to the family". Let's get him to actually, physically carry out my "dark" bidding, to eliminate one by one the expendable, unnecessary baggage that clings to me, almost for dear life, like I am their mother or something, YUCK!
I did nothing wrong, I promise you! Infact, maybe the world is a better place now!! Theres no more stupid Charles accusing people of being crazy, no more bitchy teenager who thinks she know more than her elders do. Most of all no more clingy, needy, plain in the ass kid to bother with. Infact, that bitch Kay will get a taste of her own medicine!! How does it feel to get something you love ripped from you??? I mean she TOOK MY RIGHTS AWAY!! she took away any rights i have to my money!
I mean if it weren't for me,...uh, I mean Ned Schneider, she wouldn't even have that $ in the first place.
I did NOTHING wrong-I promise!
@@jamielacerte9806 and Chad's sitting there in zombie drugged lalaland...like "that's right honey. we din do nuthin. it was them"
I get the feeling that Lori actually believes she did nothing wrong. I'll bet until the bitter end up until she stands before God or the devil she will believe that she is the victim. And totally righteous just bcuz she is there great Lori.
I also believe that she killed her kids with her own hands... and still thinks she's righteous. And totally justified in all her murders... and that she would have killed Melanie too if she could and thought she needed to.
@@mirzamay yep
Night of 22nd Sept. What if... Alex did bring him in to put him to bed and...JJ without this dog there to comfort him is "playing up" whilst David and melan8e and Lori are trying to record their precious podcast.... did Lori leave to go upstairs...and taped up JJ?
Unbelievable how they are using scriptures in this context. It's like they're using scriptures to speak in code and threaten each other.
That is not the scriptures. It is the book of mormon. None of that is in agreement with bible canon.
Dachdog Genesis 22 :: NIV. Some time later God tested Abraham. ... Then God said, "Take your son, your only son, Isaac, whom you love, and go to the region of Moriah. Sacrifice him there as a burnt offering on one of the mountains I will tell you about."
@@petuniaandpoppy4615 Then in another part of the Bible it says God does not test you.I believe in God and Christians usually say the Bible had no contradictions but I have read it all several times and parts many, many times and I can see contradictions.
@@Dachdogoriginal cool, except you're wrong. You are spreading lies. They absolutely do read and quote from the king James version of the bible as well as the book of Mormon.
Chad and Lori are murderers and adulterers and their little group is not practicing the teachings of the church of Jesus Christ of latter day saints.
Dachdog
The Bible is an immoral book as well. The fact that people get so confused is because they think it’s a virtue to believe in something for which there is no good evidence. And if you believe in some things without evidence then it’s easy to believe in more crazy made up stuff.
This is called gaslighting. "You know me, Mel!"
Amazing composer from the grandparents not to fly over the benches and strangle Chad.
@Jayla Ro Looking at Lori's past behavior, I'm thinking she is the worst of them all, the craziest!
I agree with you! I would not be able to control my anger! God Bless them!
He’ll get his. Especially when he gets the rep of a child killer in prison. Karma will come for him.
Law enforcement and chaplains etc must have daily really touched basis with them and helped them stay strong, feel invaluable. I agree--their composure is so intense. I am stunned with all the stress they haven't gotten C19, a heart attack or anything medical. I pray they don't in the future--no matter what they hear or see or face.
You could tell grandpa wanted to though.
Melanie ain't no hero. She knew all about the dark & light rating system and she KNEW Lori thought Tylee & JJ were zombies. She did what she did to save her own ass. End of story.
Funny to hear Lori twist this conversation around. Ewe she knows she is being recording and Melanie knows something bad has happened.
True that^
Absolutely sounded 100% that Melanie knew something happened to JJ....to me it sounded like she had knowledge of exactly what happened or knew “something” Lori literally said- Mel you’re going to be hald accountable for what you know too!! Something like that....
Is Lori talking about Melanie will be held accountable by God or by the police??? I wonder....🤔🤔🤔
I don't think any of you can say she knows, and blah blah.... You have no idea how they spoke on a normal basis. This honestly sounds like the podcast I heard. We can all speculate. Chad and Lori are guilty, Melanie, that's speculation aka pointless.....
@ narcissists ARE idiots! They have no concept of reality.
@@k1ttychaos250 laurie is a liar on so many levels... wouldn't take anything she says seriously. It will all come out.
Oh yeah, they were worried about everyone’s protection and safety. What a crock! He’s safe and happy. In Heaven away from the monsters!
True that Silver Girl- We can only hope they were peacefully put to sleep like Tammy Daybell.
💜Tylee&JJ💙
PeaCe&ReSPeCt, Shelley
Good for Melanie. I am so glad we could hear this.
Melanie is brilliant in how she handled this call! Wow! So great that the court heard this conversation!
Agree
Larry and Kay you are SO strong. Keep your chin up ❤🙏
I hope they put Chad's kids on the stand and ask, is it true that your dad begged your mom to go to the hospital?
I saw today the list for people on Lori's prelim. There are a couple or 3 daybells.
Some if them would lie (perjure themselves). Emma, for one. Can't say why I think that, exactly, but she seems so drawn in to it all so invested.
They will probably see now that he was having An affair while his mom was alone.
Ah yes Lori, Mistress of Manipulation, stop confusing Jesus with Satan.
Ha! Exactly
LOL, Lori getting offended because Melanie says she rested the scriptures.
Lori is just someone who doesn't liked to be called out.. the grandiosity n lack of self awareness n selfishness is so evident
Melanie is one strong level headed woman, I’m sure she was next on their hit list. Thank goodness they didn’t get to her
I think at some point in the call, you can hear that Lori threatens Melanie’s life, so it would confirm that she was indeed next on their hit list.
Imagine their facial reactions and whispers behind the phone while Melanie was questioning them. Probably freaking out lmao
Lori definitely switched from fake brainwashing to a ‘how dare you question me’ defensive mood! Lori: “I’m sorry you feel that way sweetheart”...she might as well cuss Melanie out it would be less ridiculous sounding.
Poor grandfather is about to lose it in court
Chad’s wife was perfectly healthy but all of a sudden his wife is sick n weak? Try again Chad cus no one believes a word u saying!
I have a totally different perspective on melanie gibb. She stood up to them and imo is being truthful. This tape says it all.
The manipulative "I'm sorry you feel that way. I love you..."
I feel so bad for JJ's grandparents having to sit through all this 😭
I can’t stand the dogmatic religious zealots. Who can talk to them?
me either. they can use scripture to rationalize ANYTHING. Melanie is just as creepy as Lori and Chad.
Christine Lo
I don’t think that being an bible thumping idiot is as bad as being a murderer. It’s bad though.
@@judyives1832 I think Mel knew they were guilty and only spoke out to save her own ass. I dont think we would have ever heard from her had Chad and Lori not tried to implicate her.
Judy Ives Whats your definition of a Bible Thumper? Someone who reads it regularly, studies it, and tries to do what it says, and believed every word is the inerrant word of God? And tries to share it with others because we are told to and because we know it’s true in our lives? Then, I am a proud Bible Thumper. And these people are evil or deceived at best.
@@judyives1832 Go Judy! Not everyone here thinks one way! #nativeamericans #asian #european etc.
Powerful questioning from Melanie! She put it all out there for Lori! The truth hurts and I'm sure Lori is feeling it now! Wow! Amazing!
I want to know his response for the kids in his backyard?
He'll say he was as shocked as everyone else, but he'll have to explain why he sped off in his truck once JJ's grave was located.
Jess Stone I’m wondering how he will explain that as both his cell phone and Alex’s pinged in the same area together at the same time.
@@JessStone-hl8ed He can't get away with that because he had texted his wife Tammy and said he had killed a squirrel and was burying it but I don't remember if he had also told her he was burning it too, oh yes he is going down.
@@pknnbeach7525 yes, the racoon he shot and had to bury. And...the weeds he had to burn. He's not a smart man.
Melanie has a strong personality. She stands for whats right...Go Melanie
She's not a rocket scientist, that's for sure. Why did she humor them at all?
@@KarisPigNose oh really. Ok
@@KarisPigNose to get information, that's why the call was recorded.
She should have called the authorities the first sign of Tylee not being home. She knew. She’s involved and she lied.
My heart breaks for the grandparents. 😭😭😭😭
Hide in a rock? She's in sunny Hawaii on her honeymoon. Not exactly in a cave.
His face is so red compared to others in the court room.
It got increasingly red during the playing of this recording.
yes indeed 🤮👉👺🖤
It's called high blood pressure for a reason. I can only imagine the pressure his heart is under knowing his ass is for sure in a sling. Knowing he will spend the rest of his life behind bars justifiably is turning him red.
He looks quite uncomfortable, deservingly so! I hope they’re enjoying their jail cells
So sad I feel so bad for the grandparents I can see how hard this is for them to hear this. I hope there is justice in the horrible series of events. Makes me mad the smug look on Chads face!
God bless them
Who are those two the parents of?
@@seekthtruth those two people are the biological grandparents the now passed jj. Lories adopted son
I just want to hug them. I’m a Grandma and I feel their pain 💔✝️
Chads face doesn’t look smug so much as a defeated bullfrog.
Why have they not been charged with murder with such overwhelming evidence?
I think because they have to figure out who did what... Chad? Lori? Alex? All 3? Who covered up what...
I have been wondering the same thing
I don’t think they killed them! I think Alex killed him and now he’s dead! These people will likely be free in 20 years
I think Alex killed them but Lori and Chad orchestrated the murders. They will be held just as responsible as Alex would be.
I think prosecutors have to be super super careful in what they have and how they present it!
Chad is red in the face...hope,he feels the heat
He knows where he put those children and hes thinking if the world doesn't end soon , we may have a problem!! He had a reason to flush.
Oh yes! He is for sure he is feeling the heat from the hell coming from him
She’s a nutcase!
Those poor grandparents. The best thing could have happened was just give Kay the kids this did NOT have to happen!
Back in the day, people looked crazy because they were crazy and it was ok. These days they are well dressed with lipstick and clean clothes this is incredible!
Like evil people look good?
This is classic LDS policy- always be looking wholesome no matter how broken you are behind closed doors.
Devil wears prada!! Devil in sheeps clothing, the master manipulator
Lori- “JJ is safe and he’s happy”. Safe and happy in the ground??? Wtf
Melanie could be an F.B.I.interrogator.Woman has real skills.
Boathousejoe D SHES A LIAR
@@MB-sz3nk Are you related to Chad?
Melanie does have enough skill to think like Lori but not. Bawhaha Angel Moroni, Nephites MormonScriptures...
Are you serious!?!
@@ajordan1976 Pertaining to this particular video wouldn't you say she's rehearsed quite well? Good actress?
“Honey you’ve got a lot of natural desires. We all know that” 😩 BURN!! This recording makes me love Melanie even if she blew this whole call with her horrible lying lol.
How so? What's the lie? 🤷♀️🤷♂️
C D I mean her horrible acting on the call. She sounded so incredibly shady & nervous lol they definitely knew something was up right away.
It was really getting warm in the court house , no doubt the heat was coming from Chad and his attorney after they heard those recordings
It's hell, coming for Chad.
Pretty much!
I laughed out loud every time Chad's idiot attorney felt the need to say anything to him or to write anything to him during this recording. Neither of you two idiots are in line for an Oscar.
Lori's more upset about being accused of resting the scriptures rather than being involved with the disappearance of her child.
And that is what bothers me the most. This is a 20 minute conversation about scriptures & faith instead of WHERE the HELL is your son & daughter???? Makes you wonder if she has a conscience or if she's truly that cold. 🥶
Lori's speech and vocabulary sound like a 13 year old. "Glad you are friends with people that are against me." Jfc 🤦♀️Glad MG actually stuck up for herself
“You know me.” Classic liar’s gaslighting phrase.
Get ready, Lori. You will have to stand before Jesus Christ one day. Wonder how that will go?
Jesus may have to say, "I know you not!"
Not so well me thinks.
Genesis 22 :: NIV. Some time later God tested Abraham. ... Then God said, "Take your son, your only son, Isaac, whom you love, and go to the region of Moriah. Sacrifice him there as a burnt offering on one of the mountains I will tell you about."
She's going to tell God that she's God! She'll gaslight God, lol!
I hope everyone lets up on Melanie now. If this doesn't prove she cared for JJ, nothing will.
I don't understand why hasn't Tylee been mentioned tho?
Anyway thank you Melanie, I feel she is going to be a big part in convicting these 2
Tylee wasn’t mentioned because at the point of the phone call, Tylee wasn’t known to be missing. JJ was only reported by his grandmother, Kay, who isn’t biologically related to Tylee. It was only through investigating JJ as missing they discovered Tylee was also missing.
At the time, everyone believed she had truly gone off to college at BYU-IDAHO.
See the police interview with lori and tylee. That girl was protective of her mother. It's so heinous that concern was no returned and the poor girl was instead horribly murdered.
"Well, you've got a lot of natural desires, Honey. We all know that!" That was the most honest statement in this entire phone call.
When they said Dave was putting doubts in Melanie it was like he was becoming a Zombie “dead list”
When she said how J.J. is perfectly fine and happy and she knew he was dead. it really made me so angry and heartbroken. You can clearly see to what level her lies and evilness goes. She call herself a celestial being. Woooow. Unbelievable!!!!
And Melanie really has some "balls" to confronts those psychos. She really didn't hold anything back and she was so smart and brave.
And Lori was hiding behind their cult and Chad was using his own children to cover up that he murdered his own wife. They make sick to my stomach.
Man, Melanie went way harder to Lori's face than she did on the show. She was talking good mostly on the show about Lori but on here she let it all out.
I have so much respect for her for that honestly. She didnt actually know and she didnt speculate publically, she only said what she knew for sure and what she hoped publically but she was straight up with them.
Lori did not like being called Korihor!😂😂😂
Without focusing on the religious beliefs, Melanie showed some guts. She respected Chad and Lori and believed that they were on the same path. I have watched her in one interview grapple with complicated feelings , in an other seemed free of their influences and finally was a solid and focused witness. She is the best witness the prosecution has.
Their beliefs are crazy. None of that is in bible canon. They have their own book.
*canon
Genesis 22 :: NIV. Some time later God tested Abraham. ... Then God said, "Take your son, your only son, Isaac, whom you love, and go to the region of Moriah. Sacrifice him there as a burnt offering on one of the mountains I will tell you about."
@@petuniaandpoppy4615 he didnt want him to do it. He just asked him to. He interfered and stopped him. The lesson? Understand the sacrifice God was going to make with his own son, and also , to have faith that God knew his purpose and to be obedient. God provided a ram. He has never had a human make a sacrifice to him of another human. Lori is also not in ANY covenant with God to kill her children. James 1:13.
Dachdog 🌿Amen
@@Dachdogoriginal he just wanted to demonstrate his own power over Abraham? What an excellent being to worship
That’s not even biblical scripture she is quoting!?! That stuff isn’t in the real Bible...who are these people!?!?!?
Mormons
They are not Mormons or LDS. They used to be
I think that’s the Book of Mormon they don’t believe in the Bible
It's from the book of Mormon.
Not A Snack yes we believe in the Bible and use it conjointly with the Book of Mormon which is Another Testament of Jesus Christ. It contains other ancient history that preaches of Christ. You can find the re-enactment of those accounts on short clips on UA-cam.
Ok but I kind of love the way Lori and Mel are fighting using scripture and attitude lol
How to tape your friends to protect yourself ....
When Chad was listening to himself on three phone call, I noticed his face turned red. Also when Lori was telling Melanie that she would have to answer for her disbelieving Her when that stuff was to happen(and it didn't)and Chad knew that everyone now knows he was a fake. Ya, he looked like he wanted to crawl under the table.
Both of them now caught out and is about time!
Those two sickos sacrificed those children, in a horrible way because of their screwed up beliefs !I hope they both get justice in prison
The last sentence she says is everything. He is not protecting you from this crime
That's the danger of ultra religious - they can justify any lie, any evil, any act, using the lie that 'they were told to by their lord'.
Wow Melany , it takes so much courage to say what you are saying to them .
I just love all the silence when it takes Lori and Chad a second to figure out which lie to tell in any given situations.
Reminds me of Casey Anthony.. 🤢😠😡
I feel horrible for the Woodcocks.
I know---the saving grace is that they were the ones that started reaching out re: "It's been too long since we have physically seen/heard the the two children". I accidentally came across this "situation" in online newspaper back around early December or so. I just wish that lying, deception in a wide range but very specific circumstances could be a felony crime. In this case they both could have possibly been arrested earlier and the same whole picture would have still been piece by piece factually "revealed". By the time the Lori Vall arrest for child endangerment came along,....I was in shreds in having followed the articles for months. What if the Woodcock grandparents did not exist--this situation would have been even worse, worse re: arresting and prosecuting. Also, if, if, if Tylee or JJ had been adults....and Tylee identifying and not wanting to be around her mother... Adult victims many times commit suicide when their abuser isn't even on police radar, too. Someone else calling police is exponentially huge beyond words. This set of grandparents --thank God they acted. Who knows where these two ""inmates" would be right now--if these two grandparents had not acted. I really wish there were specific felony laws for lying in a variety of situations.
Chad: "I knew my life had two segments"
Segment Two: Prison Bitch
Chad Daybell did not get his tracing from the Holy Bible.He got his teachings from the Book of Mormon.The Book of Mormon is entirely different from the Bible.The Book of Mormon was deciphered by Joseph Smith from golden plates he claimed the angel Moroni gave him.He deciphered these looking through a hat using what he called a ulm and thurmon whatever the heck those were and he had a scribe write down what he interpreted.He was what they call a flim fam man before this.He read people's fortunes out of a hat.He and his book of Mormon have perpetuated one of the biggest cons ever on the world.In no way can you compare the Holy Bible to the Book of Mormon.
old howdy doody seems to be having a little trouble staying awake in court, must not be sleeping too well in his cell
At the 9 minute and 45 second mark it sounds like Melanie was caught lying...
She was. I caught that too. I think she definitely saw whatever Lori was yapping about on loris computer
Well she knows that what she is doing is Evil Lori just thinks they will get away with it. She has never had to be accountable for her actions in life. She and a Chad are sad excuses for human beings!
Melanie was next to die.. bet there’s a list
Melanie is very smart and strong!! I’m so glad she recorded this conversation
That phone call was Awesome! I'm a Melanie Gibb's fan for sure! Plus, you have to admit her hair looked fantastic today! She ran circles around Lori and Chad and the BS they were peddling... Chad sounded like such a wimp on that call... Who would ever call that guy charismatic? Lori was the charismatic one on that phone call but she was no match for Melanie! Too bad all those innocent souls had to be killed before they were brought to justice!
Wow how close Melanie came to being on the hit list.