That would have been better than taking his life. So what if his sister got the money, it was Charles money to do as he pleased. There are special needs schools around the country.
I was going to type a similar post but i'll leave you to the glory lol. I'm a cynical revenue protection investigator and even to me she is VERY convincing! That cute little Mmhmm. She brings up 'the money' from beginning to middle to end and plays the victim the entire time. Total malignant narcissist!!!
@@manicmurph The malignant types play victim so they are even harder to identify because despite their ego they place themselves on the bottom for extra attention/power/sympathy. Theyre the ones saying 'You dont love me' just to be told they are loved.
@@oceansoflorewi narcissists are very very cunning... Cunning means very skillful at using deceit and manipulation to achieve their goals... I'm dealing with one myself right now and it is pure hell! They come across as very innocent and sweet and of course the victim.
The giggeling is part of her attempt to flirt with the detectives. She did the same thing at the police station, when she claimed, poor Charles had stolen her purse. SO manipulative.
@@wendyhardin5259 I think that the 2 of them thought they would be pretty financially set from the insurance from his wife and her husband. Everything with them always sounds like its all about the money.
She sounds so pist that he put the insurance in his sisters name. He must have thought that he was gonna be killed and wanted to make sure the kids were taken care of.
So she already knew her son was dead and was mentally aware enough to know she needed to lie to law enforcement, but she’s not competent to stand trial??
She’s a master manipulator! She can switch “it” on and off. She had the presence of mind to do a lot of things that benefited her financially. Thankfully in Idaho there’s no not guilty by reason of insanity, she’ll be held in a state hospital until she is deemed to stand trial and will never be released.
@@Michelle_Mack I don't know about these hospitals, but she will probably get great compassionate care, treating her especially well, something she does not deserve. The way she's been treated by the pussy Justice System is a crime against society. The victims and the people deserve better, yet she walks around like her shit don't stink, enabling her core delusions regarding her self-applied divinity, she's a god after all.
Yeah, that REALLY bothered her because she sure brought it up often enough 🙄 I think in her head she already had that $million$ spent😉 What did she expect Charles to do when she was telling him she would kill him if he got in her way? 🤷♀️ Smart move Charles made!
Ohhhhhh the Grampa sitting behind. If his eyes were destructive lazers!! There's alot if hate & rage in his eyes. As he should feel. Can you imagine the embarrassment he feels being associated with them as daughter & son in law? Oye!!
@Sherlock's cat oh good god I'd forgotten all the husband's lol. I live in Australia so I've been playing catch up with this bat sheit crazy true crime. I've been saying since the bushfires I'M MISSING OUT ON REAL SERIAL KILLER'S .. We have had nothing but covid19 and fires on our news since October 2019. I love east Idaho news now lol.
She personally volunteered information to the police so she gave herself away and it’s because she was guilty as Sine she knew she was on her way to their second a segment of a life together as husband and wife of the Author Chad Day-bells in prison..without any possibility of parole..
And the reference to 5 kids: she is so full of it. The 2 Vallow boys (her stepsons) we’re raised by Cheryl, their mom. They visited w/ Charles & probly alternated holidays & school breaks w/ either parent. Colby, Lori’s son, was a grown & outta house by the time Alex murdered Charles. But she didn’t raise him 2 b independent. He was still waiting for $ from his mom. He got use 2 Charles paying 4 everything, by the time he died, he was still expecting his mom 2 send $. Lori stole Ty’s $ & sent it thru Venmo 2 Colby. And JJ & Ty...she got $6k from their survivors benefits (dead fathers) & disability (JJ).... so she got $ to raise them. Also, we still don’t know if Ty had $ set aside by Joe for her future. If thr was, Lori’s probly used it all up by now.
@Sherlock's cat I see flaws in laws. I have to agree with you. The Caylee case was bad. It should not be an educational system for further abuse of the law and a means for escape just cause the suspect didn't seem present, imo.
Ladies and gentlemen, SHE is a Grandmother! You can see the rage and pain she is experiencing and the IMENSE amount of unconditional love she has for JJ.
Lori is a practiced liar...her little giggles are when she derives pleasure from getting away with a lie. Thank goodness for Kay. The cops intuition is spot on. Lori and Chad Daybell, are guilty. While they are entitled to the presumption of innocence, JJ and Tylie were entitled to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. Lori and her brother Alex, are responsible for additional murders. Sociopaths. Watching from Jerusalem. Nate Eaton deserves a raise, top notch journalist.
also she is about to land up in the Pocatello Women's Hospital for life 4 days ago the cops searched her apartment Lori did not pay the lease and the landlord had to call a clean out crew they found the hammer in the closet with JJ's blood on it and her fingerprints on the hilt. We know what happen next Lori told Cox to dispose of the body a BYU camera spotted Cox coming out of that apartment with a garment bag JJ's body was in it. Cox loaded the body into his car he drove across the Snake River into Madison County he drove to Sugar Salem he met up with Chad Daybell. They threw the bag into the fire pit Lori arrived minutes later with Melanie Gibbs who just killed Tylee her body was also thrown into the fire pit Chad and Cox pored gas on the bodies and Lori threw the match into the fire pit burning them. Chad texted Tami. Next Lori told Chad to get rid of Tami Chad killed her that night by poisoning her he put her body in the freezer while the cops searched the house. Chad faked her death certificate and obituary he drove to Springville and buried Tami next to my ancestors until she was exhumed the autopsy report just came out Chad killed her. Now it is time to press judgement and lock these two away for good.
She was already married to Chad. Yet she called him her brothers friend... Trying to distance herself from her MAN. Sounds like she is HYPED UP on speed too.
That was just chilling. Knowing that Tylee and JJ were already dead and she's still convinced that it is all about her. It's also clear that she fully believes if she acts out the cute and frazzled widowed victim of all these mean people, she'll be able to con the police.
Sherry Then why did she marry Chad? He doesn’t have money, oh wait he was the beneficiary on Tammy’s life insurance. That was about $400,000. It’s a good thing Lori is in jail, or she would have spent all of it by now.
Vonda Morphew but you hear through out her history with husbands she was always after money, Joe Ryan she received Tylee’s beneficiary from his death, tried to get Charles’s life insurance, collecting kids money from state. List goes on...
Wow there so much confusion even the officers are like please tell this crazy u composed woman Lori to call hope, Haley, and or Hannah,yep frozen 2, ???? LMAO
He looks pissed with her flirting? The guys face never changes it’s always like that. I highly doubt he is worrying about her moment with the cop lol they are busted.
In my 60+ years, I've known two true sociopaths. I feel Lori Vallow has the traits of a sociopath. Sociopaths are astute liars and manipulators. They leave a trail of drama, damage, and heartache, then they easily move on to other prey, evidently sleeping like a baby at night, no guilt, no remorse, nothing. And they just keep on going, this is their life, causing everyone around them big problems. They always portray themselves as victims, and holier than thou. Lori was unfit to be a mother.
Francesca Williams Hey 👋 there!... not sure I agree? Her comments and demeanor would have given me pause from the get go. She uses the same tactics she used at the police station regarding her so called “stolen” purse. She once again relies on the old The “I’m so cute tactic,” that she seems to have employed most of her life. A little of the “its not possible that I would do any of these things?“ She then bats the eyelashes repeatedly, plays up the innocent Bambi routine, throws in an innocent flirt or two, and is believed... by most! And why not? She has successfully used this tactic for all of her life... (especially with men!) Her tactic is slightly different with women... there she plays the beautiful, spiritual energetic, organized, responsible wife and mother. She even appears to be “inspired!” Yes she’s had marriage challenges, but look how she’s grown?! A woman to be admired and looked up to! She’s the kind of woman every tired mom “wishes” she could be?! ... Of course this isn’t real... but most have NEVER seen the manipulative, spiteful, motivated by money, Lori that we are now seeing. The proverbial “veil” has been lifted. She has successfully used her beauty and charm to manipulate and control those she wants or needs something from. It can’t be denied that each man Lori has chosen, was done so for a specific need or reason. Be it financial gain, friendship, community statue, or now the ultimate...spiritual enlightenment. When she tired of them or they no longer had value to her, they were casually and easily discarded. Previously it was for monetary gain, or in Chads case... spiritual immortality. IMHO... She is a classic borderline narcissistic personality. Nothing special here... she’s empty, she’s evil.
Kira Reisch I said I agreed with the Original poster that Lori is a pathological liar and seems to always get away with it. I don’t understand what you don’t agree with there? Since you said the same thing just with more diligence and an in-depth analysis of her as a person
Francesca Williams Hi Francesca 👋: I thought you were saying that you too would believe her... IF you didn’t know all that has come to light? Sorry if I misunderstood your post. I meant to imply (rather long windily I might add 😉) that I believe I would be suspect of someone who behaves as she does. Too much psychology edu. on my part?? Wink 😊 Something in her demeanor is really off for me. Listening to her explain herself to the police had all kinds of red flags 🚩 for me. I’d like to hope that I’d be more suspicious than the officers appear to be. Of course, these guys have an immensely difficult job, and it’s really easy to play armchair QB at this point. Apologies if I came across as one. 😌 Given your 2nd. post... sounds like we are on the same page. Thanks for the note & clarification 😉
Your right her tone is very deceptive, her laughter and acting like she has no concerns in the world. Knowing that her children are Dead and buried 😬 Evil and cool as a cucumber....scary!
She’s insinuating that the correspondence between her brother Adam ( with Charles Vallow) was a plot to kill her. That’s why she wanted Charles’ phone . To delete that and see what he knew.
I Think the evil witch is making it up as she goes , blame it on every one else, she's bitter about the life insurance , she got poor Charles Killed and she's bitter and twisted snd angry she never got his life insurance money, 😒😣
Kay & Larry, I’m so terribly sorry to both of you and wish I could give you both a hug!! My heart aches for you both and you both are in my prayers daily!!!
"Which we did (adopt him) and we LOVED him" LOVED IS PAST TENSE!!! EVERYTHING SHE SAYS ABOUT HIM IS IN PAST TENSE. SHE SLIPPED UP THEN!!!! Korihor Lori needs to pay !!!
R Witter he’s alive and has kept off the spotlight. I think he wants to remain alive unless he’s subpoenaed if anyone is ever charged with Charles Vallow’s Murder.
“I look like a suspect but I’m a good person.” I guarantee the officers spidey sense went off when she said that. At this point no “crime” has been committed as far as anyone knows.
Why didn't Lori just give JJ to his grandmother if she didn't want him anymore and she was so angry that the grandmother got the money? Did they have a lust for murdering children? This is so evil, beyond comprehension.
I ask that question every single time I watch updates on the case. She could of just walked away from JJ, and Tylee too. To think people could be so evil.
@@sheilamarie2005 I belive Tylee could have known more about what she was doing and was a treath to her. If I remember corectly the girl was there when they killed Charles.
Around 3:45 I’m pretty sure she said “we loved him.” Loved-as in past tense. So did she no longer love JJ, or was that a slip because she knew he’s already dead? It breaks my heart to know that the grandma was potentially going to try to get him back. How is that not a better option than killing him? She’s was just being spiteful because she didn’t get that life insurance money that she had Charles killed for. 😔
Actually part of the $6k was Ty’s survivor benefits (her dad joe Ryan died n 2018) & she would get that until she turned 18. JJ got disability & survivor benefits (obviously Charles murdered).
@@antoniamills3000 yeah it's called being a responsible adult and preparing to take care of your child from the grave, if need be. She had a good Dad, and so did JJ. Too bad they stuck their you know what in crazy and married it.
$6k for what? Death benefit couldn’t be more than $1000-1200 a month & disability isn’t more than $800 a month here in Ohio how was she getting $6000 ??? Wow talk about a fraud these are the type of people who need kicked off welfare
@Joy Comes in the morning: it havnt seen it on record but Nate made mention of that estimate amount & Mel G seem 2 recall that amount. Lord knows, n btwn reciting scriptures & weaving lies, Lori 3rd fav talk topic was $. Are survivor benefits calculated the same as social security? By that, I mean, is it a specific calculation of ur work history & ur salary? If that is the case, then the 2 kids might hav had decent survivor benefit checks. Joe Ryan & Charles Vallow we’re both veeery gainfully employed...6 digits. Lori wouldn’t hav used her looks & charm 2 hook another poor guy after the first 2 failed marriages. She def’ly clawed her way up the ladder. (Not dissing the 1st 2 men... they were peers & she didn’t want 2 b part of young couple making their way thru life, maybe with w/ lil $ struggle, as most couples do. She went after older, established men so she wouldn’t hav 2 work anymore...lotsa free time 2 read scriptures, work out & wreck havoc on her “enemies”). Then, she went looking 4 sum1 who was rich n “spiritually”....kinda the way she views herself. And now, we’re here.
My chest started spitting out big red hearts when Lori said in a pissed off tone that she didn't get the $1,000,000 in life insurance after her brother murdered him in cold blood. Great moment!
This honestly makes me laugh. This woman is delusional- she keeps saying her husband passed when she straight up had him killed. Not to mention she kept telling him she was going to kill him so obviously he would remove her from the life insurance policy! Lmfao like did she honestly think he would be like ooooo yeah you’re going to kill me- let me make sure you keep the life insurance money just incase you actually follow through on it. 😂🤣😂🤣
Kay InMaine She probably had insest with her brother and he would do whatever she told him. She controlled his mind because he was in love with his sister and she controlled him. And then she despised of him. She’s a demigod remember, and chad has shown her the ways of the force to control the simple minded (like her brother) it’s an old Jedi trick. She thought she could use it on the police too.
She's distancing herself from Chad very early on in the investigation, claiming Chad is her brother Alex's friend. Why so Lori.. it was a divine union was it not ?
Why doesn't the law charge Lori and Chad with murder? Who else would kill these two children and bury them on Chads property.. There's alot of questions for me if this case is being handled properly..
They have to have evidence to charge them with murder. So far Alex is the only one they can pinpoint with the bodies. I’m sure they are working on it though.
It become very clear here, that Lorie is projecting all the time. SHE is the one, who killed for insurance money, NOT Kay or her brother. SHE is the one, who is lying and manipulating. Still she accuses everybody else of the same flaws. Also it clearly shows her focus on money. She is absolutely disqusting!!
The way Lori acts compaired to Charles on the lapel cam is VERY DIFFERENT...and ironic Lori claimed Charles was crazy and aggressive and angry and all the footage we've seen was Cool Calm But Concerned and Upset but still calm...and LORI is the one that gets HEATED and carried away... If Tylee wasnt there to tell her to "shhh",,,,
Yes, my heart goes out to JJ’s grandparents as they have to sit through this and listen to her lies and Chad’s lies as well. How awful it must be for them and I cannot even begin to imagine.❤
Wow. No one asked about the life insurance but Lori volunteers how bitter she is about Kay being the beneficiary. Twice. Then she tells police that Chad is Alex's "friend" when they ask her who the other guy was that they encountered at her place earlier. "He's an author" not "he's my husband". Wow.
I love the detective evening evasive saying isn’t that the chad daybell who’s wife died recently ahhaha when they know exactly who chad is and Lori is off the scale nuts
She adopted JJ???? Saved him as a 2 year old to give him a better life, just to kill him a few years later because she's nuts and believes in Zombie's. Unfreakin' Believable!!! 😠😤🤬☹️
Anyone else notice when she said she adopted JJ that she had “loved” him. She should have said that she loves him, not past tense if he was still alive? Big red flag to me. Horrible horrible women!
I don't believe ether Chad or Lori have much in the way of intelligence. No sane or intelligent person would do what it strongly appears, in all probability, that these two have done.
8:42 Chad probably tried this on other women...."we were married in prior lives" and they didn't fall for it. His luck is the one that does is crazier than him. XD
By all accounts, Lori was a good mom and a good person before she met Chad. Even JJ’s grandparents have said this repeatedly, so it seems like Chad was the one manipulating and the one who is most to blame for this. He used Lori’s faith to control her because she seems to have completely believed his bullshit. I don’t think she should get off Scot free, and she deserves to spend just as much time in prison as Chad, or at least almost as much, but Chad is the reason this all happened in my opinion, none of it would have happened without him. He was the one who manipulated and controlled everyone around him, he’s probably the one who killed the children (he’s almost certainly the one who killed Tylee as he told his wife he shot a ‘raccoon’ that day which I assume was him covering for shooting Tylee) and he almost certainly buried them. Not to mention murdering his wife. He’s sick. I 100% agree with you about him trying that with other women, he very clearly used religion to manipulate women, there’s no way this is his first time.
5:03-510 she said I don’t tell people the truth . .. I look like a suspect but I’m not a nice person ... why would she say I look like a suspect ? Out of the abundance of the heart the mouth does speak .
6:50 Hilarious how Lori has so much to say for herself when covering up JJ's disappearance by blaming his grandmother, but as soon as she tries to pass her husband Chad Daybell off as 'my brother's friend', and one of the cops says "Chad Daybell… Haven't I heard that name before? Didn't his wife die recently?" She suddenly goes as silent as all the graves she and old Chad have recently filled with innocent victims! Evil witch! And Chad's face when she calls him her brother's friend and doesn't mention he's also her husband. He actually blinks - it's the first time we see any expression cross the face of old mailbox-mouth! My God, that huge, shapeless gob of his - now I see who Sesame Street modelled the 'Cookie Monster' on. It's Chad to the last detail! "COOOOOKEEEEEEEES!!!!" As for Lori calling Chad 'An author" thinking it will impress the cops - PULEEZE! Anyone can self-publish a crummy, badly written book if they have a wife working full time to pay Amazon's self-publishing fees!
Well, she just stated what her motive was for killing them right there. Her dead husband didn't leave her any money to care for them with. Selfish devious woman would rather kill them than give them to their grandparents, for then she can collect their social security checks.
Omg nevermind I just looked up the story and seen that the two children were found dead on the step father’s property 😩🤦🏻♀️😔 this Is insane . The way they lied and used scripture to do it. I’m beyond disgusted.
Why wouldn't she just give jj to his grandmother instead of murdering him.
She is a religious nut!
because they thought his spirit was taken over by bad spirits and they thought killing him would “save” him
That would have been better than taking his life. So what if his sister got the money, it was Charles money to do as he pleased. There are special needs schools around the country.
It's because she was mad that kay got the million dollars. If lori would have got the life insurance she would have gladly gave JJ to the grandmother.
Because she got none of that life insurance money. I am convinced that lit the fire to end that poor kid’s life.
That woman is definitely a malignant narcissist. Notice how she's such a victim... And notice how damn easily she lies...
What's the difference between a regular one and a malignant one? I hate narcissism. My ex and many people in my life are narcissistic.
I was going to type a similar post but i'll leave you to the glory lol. I'm a cynical revenue protection investigator and even to me she is VERY convincing! That cute little Mmhmm. She brings up 'the money' from beginning to middle to end and plays the victim the entire time. Total malignant narcissist!!!
@@manicmurph The malignant types play victim so they are even harder to identify because despite their ego they place themselves on the bottom for extra attention/power/sympathy. Theyre the ones saying 'You dont love me' just to be told they are loved.
...I also noticed how easily she kills too!
@@oceansoflorewi narcissists are very very cunning... Cunning means very skillful at using deceit and manipulation to achieve their goals... I'm dealing with one myself right now and it is pure hell! They come across as very innocent and sweet and of course the victim.
WTH she is giggling? Nothing here is funny! Fry that Witch..
It's her 'I'm pretty so believe whatever I say' act
She's beyond manipulating, she's absolutely insane
The giggeling is part of her attempt to flirt with the detectives. She did the same thing at the police station, when she claimed, poor Charles had stolen her purse.
SO manipulative.
@@susanberg5817 one minute she was going cry the next she is giggeling
Us witches don’t claim her....
It sick that she is just laughing and snickering talking about the kids when they were dead in the ground buried next to animals!
I would much rather be buried next to animals then next to these people.
Really evil, demonized.
True psycho
I know! I will never forget how phony and pathological she is. Such crazy accusations and projecting what she actually did herself
@@corginut123 You got that right❗❗ Me too❗
Sounds like she mad cause she did not get her husband's life insurance.
That's what it all comes down to. Money and greed
It's all about the money
Well she went to all that trouble to kill him and she didn’t get a damn penny. Poor evil Wench.
@@wendyhardin5259 I think that the 2 of them thought they would be pretty financially set from the insurance from his wife and her husband. Everything with them always sounds like its all about the money.
She sounds so pist that he put the insurance in his sisters name. He must have thought that he was gonna be killed and wanted to make sure the kids were taken care of.
So she already knew her son was dead and was mentally aware enough to know she needed to lie to law enforcement, but she’s not competent to stand trial??
I know. Freaking ridiculous.
She’s a master manipulator! She can switch “it” on and off. She had the presence of mind to do a lot of things that benefited her financially. Thankfully in Idaho there’s no not guilty by reason of insanity, she’ll be held in a state hospital until she is deemed to stand trial and will never be released.
@@Michelle_Mack I don't know about these hospitals, but she will probably get great compassionate care, treating her especially well, something she does not deserve. The way she's been treated by the pussy Justice System is a crime against society. The victims and the people deserve better, yet she walks around like her shit don't stink, enabling her core delusions regarding her self-applied divinity, she's a god after all.
exactly but religious nuts like her know how to play the system.
Isn't she on trial? Did something change?
I am so grateful that he switched the life insurance! Boy she must have been ticked off when she learned the money wasn't coming to her.
Yep, but sad he had to lose his life over her wickedness.
Mass enough to kill the children
Yeah, that REALLY bothered her because she sure brought it up often enough 🙄
I think in her head she already had that $million$ spent😉
What did she expect Charles to do when she was telling him she would kill him if he got in her way? 🤷♀️
Smart move Charles made!
she most likely made a financial deal with alex if he would knock off her husband. Unfortunately, charles double crossed her. hahaha
@@littlemonsterpants if the world was coming to a end she couldn't spent it she wouldn't be here hello
I feel so sorry for the grandparents. You can obviously see the hurt and dismay. This is all so sad.
Grandparents sitting back in court right?
@@angelkathleenmoir874 correct
I feel so incredibly sad for them.
They're at the point of anger now & I don't blame them one bit.
Ohhhhhh the Grampa sitting behind. If his eyes were destructive lazers!! There's alot if hate & rage in his eyes. As he should feel. Can you imagine the embarrassment he feels being associated with them as daughter & son in law? Oye!!
@@Fatboy-dt8bf they are the deceased son's parents. Lori is their ex daughter in law
"She got a million dollars!". Did anyone catch that after she said they adopted JJ that they "loved" him (past tense)! 3:40
Good catch!
Good job
I never knew he was adopted!
She was speaking past tense as it was though.
Yes we did. Nuff said.
Chad Deybell has a resting Squidward face
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🤣😂🤣😂
Lol
What a terrible thing to say!
Poor Squidward...
@@lt.ripley1590 she its getting state aid for both children, is she returning the money or sending it to their care giver
"I know I LOOK like a suspect!"
Because you ARE.
A suspect then and an idiot perhaps for all of her life.
She probably felt so self-confident about her ability to "talk her way" out of any problem. lol
She thought she was doing some serious reverse psychology on those cops. lol
Why would she say that? A suspect in what crime? She says she knows where JJ is. That's guilty right there.
She’s giving information nobody asks
Seems to be what she taught her niece to do also! Project the subject then make it about how much of a good person you are and that the world is evil.
Sign of guilt.
It's her poor attempt at reverse psychology.
Wow that women lies like a professional scammer. Did she think they wouldn't actually check her BS?
Jo Hayes right she could make a shot ton of money as a salesperson and those kids could still have their lives:(
Sherlock's cat scammed her brother as well to do her dirty work. Then he had to go like everybody else...
@Sherlock's cat oh good god I'd forgotten all the husband's lol. I live in Australia so I've been playing catch up with this bat sheit crazy true crime. I've been saying since the bushfires I'M MISSING OUT ON REAL SERIAL KILLER'S .. We have had nothing but covid19 and fires on our news since October 2019. I love east Idaho news now lol.
@@DonnieShepherd Really? Who is Sheerluck and why does his cat hate the creepy brother? Oh because he was a hit man... That's fair enough lol
@@DonnieShepherd he was just a scapegoat Lori was the killer.
She must have been freaking out when the officer recognized Chad’s name.
think she fartet really that moment the officer remembered chad...other then that she only had brain farts so far
She personally volunteered information to the police so she gave herself away and it’s because she was guilty as Sine she knew she was on her way to their second a segment of a life together as husband and wife of the Author Chad Day-bells in prison..without any possibility of parole..
She went quiet and suddenly pretended to be dumb, then changed topic, brightened up and spewed more lies
So she really killed them because she didn't get the money. She says she didn't get any insurance money, and "who's going to take care of the kids "
She said "she got a million dollars" about 15 times. And her husband "passed" about 8 times. Keeps bringing up those Insurance Policies though!
@Sherlock's cat Conspiracy,same as Manson!
@@TheFrenchPug i mean tell me you wouldn't be pissed too...
And the reference to 5 kids: she is so full of it. The 2 Vallow boys (her stepsons) we’re raised by Cheryl, their mom. They visited w/ Charles & probly alternated holidays & school breaks w/ either parent. Colby, Lori’s son, was a grown & outta house by the time Alex murdered Charles. But she didn’t raise him 2 b independent. He was still waiting for $ from his mom. He got use 2 Charles paying 4 everything, by the time he died, he was still expecting his mom 2 send $. Lori stole Ty’s $ & sent it thru Venmo 2 Colby. And JJ & Ty...she got $6k from their survivors benefits (dead fathers) & disability (JJ).... so she got $ to raise them. Also, we still don’t know if Ty had $ set aside by Joe for her future. If thr was, Lori’s probly used it all up by now.
@Sherlock's cat I see flaws in laws. I have to agree with you. The Caylee case was bad. It should not be an educational system for further abuse of the law and a means for escape just cause the suspect didn't seem present, imo.
Ladies and gentlemen, SHE is a Grandmother! You can see the rage and pain she is experiencing and the IMENSE amount of unconditional love she has for JJ.
Lori is a practiced liar...her little giggles are when she derives pleasure from getting away with a lie.
Thank goodness for Kay. The cops intuition is spot on. Lori and Chad Daybell, are guilty. While they are entitled to the presumption of innocence, JJ and Tylie were entitled to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. Lori and her brother Alex, are responsible for additional murders. Sociopaths.
Watching from Jerusalem.
Nate Eaton deserves a raise, top notch journalist.
also she is about to land up in the Pocatello Women's Hospital for life 4 days ago the cops searched her apartment Lori did not pay the lease and the landlord had to call a clean out crew they found the hammer in the closet with JJ's blood on it and her fingerprints on the hilt. We know what happen next Lori told Cox to dispose of the body a BYU camera spotted Cox coming out of that apartment with a garment bag JJ's body was in it. Cox loaded the body into his car he drove across the Snake River into Madison County he drove to Sugar Salem he met up with Chad Daybell. They threw the bag into the fire pit Lori arrived minutes later with Melanie Gibbs who just killed Tylee her body was also thrown into the fire pit Chad and Cox pored gas on the bodies and Lori threw the match into the fire pit burning them. Chad texted Tami. Next Lori told Chad to get rid of Tami Chad killed her that night by poisoning her he put her body in the freezer while the cops searched the house. Chad faked her death certificate and obituary he drove to Springville and buried Tami next to my ancestors until she was exhumed the autopsy report just came out Chad killed her. Now it is time to press judgement and lock these two away for good.
@@geomodelrailroader ...no. thats not what happened lol
@@geomodelrailroader 😲😲😲
Team Kay all the way. She is fierce. This woman is so hard to deal with. I’m so glad she fought for those kids.
"Changed the life insurance police to HER.... HIS SISTER!!!@ WE GOT NOTHING.......Ohhhhhh shes so pissed
She was already married to Chad. Yet she called him her brothers friend... Trying to distance herself from her MAN. Sounds like she is HYPED UP on speed too.
Just4Fun She does sound like a meth head!
I thought she sounded like she was on drugs too.
Alot of money was being spent and vanishing and her house was basically empty I call a meth addiction
She sounds so immature
Nahhhhh, just poor sound quality in the portal.....😉
And unintelligent
She sounds guilty and stupid
She sounds like Moon Unit Zappa in “Valley Girl”
Well I think we have the real motive now. She was so upset about that million dollars she killed her own kids to hurt them.
She just lies as easy as Water pours out of a faucet
Seems to be like breathing to her.
So does Melani P. The whole family are con artist. Alex cox was a liar too.
Lies like a rug🤔
Not even a single hesitation. Just shocking.
Linnymae Mullins
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That was just chilling. Knowing that Tylee and JJ were already dead and she's still convinced that it is all about her. It's also clear that she fully believes if she acts out the cute and frazzled widowed victim of all these mean people, she'll be able to con the police.
She conned men including numerous cops her entire life.
@GrainneDhu AND, it worked!! For a little while, at least! Enough to buy them time to skip the country and go to Hawaii!!
@@smalltowngirlbigcityheart3724(Not a foreign country.)
I hope these cops are not buying her lies. She is trying to play the dumb blond victim
Why are these cops falling for her fake charm
Ahhhh poor lori, no money. That’s obviously all you cared about.
Right, she sure brings it up often enough.....what an evil witch she is!🤓
Sherry Then why did she marry Chad? He doesn’t have money, oh wait he was the beneficiary on Tammy’s life insurance. That was about $400,000. It’s a good thing Lori is in jail, or she would have spent all of it by now.
Vonda Morphew but you hear through out her history with husbands she was always after money, Joe Ryan she received Tylee’s beneficiary from his death, tried to get Charles’s life insurance, collecting kids money from state. List goes on...
Sherry /. If Lori cared about money then why did she marry the poor in money Chad.
@@jengirl6475
"Poor in money Chad"????
Ummmmm, hundreds of thousands in insurance money is not poor! 😉
Good Lord... 'Isn't that the Chad Daybell who lost his wife recently?'
Ahhh, yes officer. The very same.
Ahhh yes officer.....my next victim, uh I mean husband!
Omg. That fast talking just proves her guilt. She is a crazy witch. 😡
We have to stop using the W word and change it to a B word. Witches are cool and she ain't one, she's pure demon.
Or meth
Chad looks jealous that Lori is flirting with the cop.
Agreed
Wow there so much confusion even the officers are like please tell this crazy u composed woman Lori to call hope, Haley, and or Hannah,yep frozen 2, ???? LMAO
Angelic Marin I am sorry, what?
Mary Feather you can see the actual video online; it’s easier to understand and you can see the wat she was acting.
He looks pissed with her flirting? The guys face never changes it’s always like that. I highly doubt he is worrying about her moment with the cop lol they are busted.
Phew... If looks could kill. That grandpa is piiiiiiiiiiissssed. (understandably) That look is fierce.
I would love to hear what they were saying. Kay kept shaking her head. I feel so bad for them to have to sit through all that is to come.
His stare is boring holes into the back of Mr. Potato Head’s skull.
@@kaybrown4010 haha hey ? Don't give the toy a bad name . Potato Head . That funny tho
In my 60+ years, I've known two true sociopaths. I feel Lori Vallow has the traits of a sociopath. Sociopaths are astute liars and manipulators. They leave a trail of drama, damage, and heartache, then they easily move on to other prey, evidently sleeping like a baby at night, no guilt, no remorse, nothing. And they just keep on going, this is their life, causing everyone around them big problems. They always portray themselves as victims, and holier than thou. Lori was unfit to be a mother.
Donald Trump
Yes. Trump is unfit for the Presidency.
Prison will be too kind to those psychopaths.
The World feels Sorry for the Loss of JJ and Tylee ❤️❤️ They deserved a Real mother a caring mother
Wow. The ease in which she lies is absolutely frightening.
If we didn’t know what we do we would believe her too. Goddamn
@@francescawilliams8177 yep 💯
Francesca Williams Hey 👋 there!... not sure I agree? Her comments and demeanor would have given me pause from the get go.
She uses the same tactics she used at the police station regarding her so called “stolen” purse.
She once again relies on the old The “I’m so cute tactic,” that she seems to have employed most of her life.
A little of the “its not possible that I would do any of these things?“ She then bats the eyelashes repeatedly, plays up the innocent Bambi routine, throws in an innocent flirt or two, and is believed... by most!
And why not? She has successfully used this tactic for all of her life... (especially with men!)
Her tactic is slightly different with women... there she plays the beautiful, spiritual energetic, organized, responsible wife and mother. She even appears to be “inspired!” Yes she’s had marriage challenges, but look how she’s grown?! A woman to be admired and looked up to! She’s the kind of woman every tired mom “wishes” she could be?! ... Of course this isn’t real... but most have NEVER seen the manipulative, spiteful, motivated by money, Lori that we are now seeing. The proverbial “veil” has been lifted.
She has successfully used her beauty and charm to manipulate and control those she wants or needs something from.
It can’t be denied that each man Lori has chosen, was done so for a specific need or reason. Be it financial gain, friendship, community statue, or now the ultimate...spiritual enlightenment.
When she tired of them or they no longer had value to her, they were casually and easily discarded.
Previously it was for monetary gain, or in Chads case... spiritual immortality.
IMHO... She is a classic borderline narcissistic personality. Nothing special here... she’s empty, she’s evil.
Kira Reisch I said I agreed with the Original poster that Lori is a pathological liar and seems to always get away with it. I don’t understand what you don’t agree with there? Since you said the same thing just with more diligence and an in-depth analysis of her as a person
Francesca Williams Hi Francesca 👋: I thought you were saying that you too would believe her... IF you didn’t know all that has come to light? Sorry if I misunderstood your post.
I meant to imply (rather long windily I might add 😉) that I believe I would be suspect of someone who behaves as she does. Too much psychology edu. on my part?? Wink 😊
Something in her demeanor is really off for me. Listening to her explain herself to the police had all kinds of red flags 🚩 for me.
I’d like to hope that I’d be more suspicious than the officers appear to be.
Of course, these guys have an immensely difficult job, and it’s really easy to play armchair QB at this point.
Apologies if I came across as one. 😌
Given your 2nd. post... sounds like we are on the same page. Thanks for the note & clarification 😉
As the mother of a boy with autism, this really breaks my heart. Poor angel 💔
Her tone is truly scary that it sounds believable if not knowing all the facts
Totally does. He style really covers up her nervousness and you can see why the officers typically take her side.
@@TheFrenchPug .yes she's good at playing the innocent victim ,poor me poor me😣😣
Your right her tone is very deceptive, her laughter and acting like she has no concerns in the world. Knowing that her children are Dead and buried 😬 Evil and cool as a cucumber....scary!
True
He switch the beneficiary when he learned she was targeting him. There is a bit of silver lining. Her motive was the insurance money.
There’s a “brother” that “tried to kill” her? That’s new to me.
She’s insinuating that the correspondence between her brother Adam ( with Charles Vallow) was a plot to kill her. That’s why she wanted Charles’ phone . To delete that and see what he knew.
Liz N probably a lie. She tells quite a few.
I'm surprised the police didn't ask for the name of the brother trying to kill her.
I Think the evil witch is making it up as she goes , blame it on every one else, she's bitter about the life insurance , she got poor Charles Killed and she's bitter and twisted snd angry she never got his life insurance money, 😒😣
She makes it up, as she's going along.
My heart and prayers go out to these beautiful grandparents 🙏 ❤ 😢
my prayers for the grandparents
I agree. I can’t even fathom having to go through this 🥺
Mine as well.
Kay & Larry, I’m so terribly sorry to both of you and wish I could give you both a hug!! My heart aches for you both and you both are in my prayers daily!!!
AND Lori talked about EVERYTHING except where JJ was...
"Which we did (adopt him) and we LOVED him" LOVED IS PAST TENSE!!! EVERYTHING SHE SAYS ABOUT HIM IS IN PAST TENSE. SHE SLIPPED UP THEN!!!! Korihor Lori needs to pay !!!
Lorihor! Sums it up
Sort of
; we've loved my daughter since she was born, It makes sense to use loved because it's speaking of the past.
What is Lori talking about? Another brother trying to kill her? Thats a new twist.
She’s lying about her brother Adam to discredit him if police found his correspondence with Charles Vallow.
@@francescawilliams8177 First time I'm hearing this. Haven't heard that name before.
@VINCENT VEGAWe will call him ' lucky Adam' from here on in.
R Witter he’s alive and has kept off the spotlight. I think he wants to remain alive unless he’s subpoenaed if anyone is ever charged with Charles Vallow’s Murder.
@Diane Catts ok thanks. I guess I missed that nugget.
Chad looks like someone who is watching a movie.
Chad is a delusional narcissist like lori.
They are probably keeping him a little bit tranked up.
Just watching it to get laid but passing out coz he has no real interest
Wicked woman. JJ und T u will ever be in our heart 🇧🇪🇧🇪🇧🇪🇧🇪
Does anyone know anything about voice patterns? Notice how Lori’s voice gets higher at the end of sentences and phrases?
Exactly like Jodi Arias.
“I look like a suspect but I’m a good person.”
I guarantee the officers spidey sense went off when she said that. At this point no “crime” has been committed as far as anyone knows.
Exactly
Absolutely so right!
Nope- I don’t think any male cops ‘spider senses’ went off. They all got blinded by her being a hot single blonde 🤮
She almost said "I'm not..."
Exactly
Why didn't Lori just give JJ to his grandmother if she didn't want him anymore and she was so angry that the grandmother got the money? Did they have a lust for murdering children? This is so evil, beyond comprehension.
I ask that question every single time I watch updates on the case. She could of just walked away from JJ, and Tylee too. To think people could be so evil.
@@sheilamarie2005 I belive Tylee could have known more about what she was doing and was a treath to her. If I remember corectly the girl was there when they killed Charles.
$6,000/month ... at least!!
The grandmother is probably evil & conniving. Not saying lori isnt.
@@loredanadincu7930 if you remember what correctly
WTH?? THEY NEVER EVEN TRIED TO ASK ABOUT JJ or Tylee on the first visit, intill they HAD TO GO BACK AGAIN!!!?!!
Probably to let her ramble on to catch anything
Around 3:45 I’m pretty sure she said “we loved him.” Loved-as in past tense. So did she no longer love JJ, or was that a slip because she knew he’s already dead? It breaks my heart to know that the grandma was potentially going to try to get him back. How is that not a better option than killing him? She’s was just being spiteful because she didn’t get that life insurance money that she had Charles killed for. 😔
What a manipulator!!
It’s scary how easily the lies flow rehearsed or not. She actually believed she was going to get away with it.
She is a good liar. You can tell she's been lying her whole life. Shes a vampid pig.
Wish we could have seen the body cam video in Court
Me too!!
Was frustrating.
Obs jj was. Cash cow for her she didn’t care about him just the 6000 dollars a month he made her in state benefits the horrible excuse for a mother
Actually part of the $6k was Ty’s survivor benefits (her dad joe Ryan died n 2018) & she would get that until she turned 18. JJ got disability & survivor benefits (obviously Charles murdered).
$6000 a month... wow!
@@antoniamills3000 yeah it's called being a responsible adult and preparing to take care of your child from the grave, if need be. She had a good Dad, and so did JJ. Too bad they stuck their you know what in crazy and married it.
$6k for what? Death benefit couldn’t be more than $1000-1200 a month & disability isn’t more than $800 a month here in Ohio how was she getting $6000 ??? Wow talk about a fraud these are the type of people who need kicked off welfare
@Joy Comes in the morning: it havnt seen it on record but Nate made mention of that estimate amount & Mel G seem 2 recall that amount. Lord knows, n btwn reciting scriptures & weaving lies, Lori 3rd fav talk topic was $. Are survivor benefits calculated the same as social security? By that, I mean, is it a specific calculation of ur work history & ur salary? If that is the case, then the 2 kids might hav had decent survivor benefit checks. Joe Ryan & Charles Vallow we’re both veeery gainfully employed...6 digits. Lori wouldn’t hav used her looks & charm 2 hook another poor guy after the first 2 failed marriages. She def’ly clawed her way up the ladder. (Not dissing the 1st 2 men... they were peers & she didn’t want 2 b part of young couple making their way thru life, maybe with w/ lil $ struggle, as most couples do. She went after older, established men so she wouldn’t hav 2 work anymore...lotsa free time 2 read scriptures, work out & wreck havoc on her “enemies”). Then, she went looking 4 sum1 who was rich n “spiritually”....kinda the way she views herself. And now, we’re here.
It’s stone faced! Makes me think he’s okay with what he’s done to his wife and the kids
My chest started spitting out big red hearts when Lori said in a pissed off tone that she didn't get the $1,000,000 in life insurance after her brother murdered him in cold blood. Great moment!
Whew you hear her talk about the one million dollar life insurance money, boy oooo boy shes saltier than a bag of peanuts!!!!
All these people have it in for her!Poor Lori - she's such a victim! (Sarcasm intended)
This honestly makes me laugh. This woman is delusional- she keeps saying her husband passed when she straight up had him killed. Not to mention she kept telling him she was going to kill him so obviously he would remove her from the life insurance policy! Lmfao like did she honestly think he would be like ooooo yeah you’re going to kill me- let me make sure you keep the life insurance money just incase you actually follow through on it. 😂🤣😂🤣
Her brother shot and killed her husband. He didn't "pass away". LOL. And then the brother "died of natural causes".
If the Woodcocks are the kind people that they appear to be then the other family members of Charles will be given some funds.
🤣😂🤣🤣 Haha very funny 😂
Kay InMaine She probably had insest with her brother and he would do whatever she told him. She controlled his mind because he was in love with his sister and she controlled him. And then she despised of him. She’s a demigod remember, and chad has shown her the ways of the force to control the simple minded (like her brother) it’s an old Jedi trick. She thought she could use it on the police too.
I'm having a hard time finding any humor in this.
She's distancing herself from Chad very early on in the investigation, claiming Chad is her brother Alex's friend. Why so Lori.. it was a divine union was it not ?
Why doesn't the law charge Lori and Chad with murder? Who else would kill these two children and bury them on Chads property.. There's alot of questions for me if this case is being handled properly..
They have to have evidence to charge them with murder. So far Alex is the only one they can pinpoint with the bodies. I’m sure they are working on it though.
Alex.
I think they will blame Alex...
Evidence. Apparently they need further evidence.
Alex Cox is the fall guy and his phone pinged on Chads property at strange time!
They will. Give them time. They want it airtight with no wiggle room.
“Daybell... hmm sounds familiar 🤔 didn’t his wife pass away recently?” Yup that one!
It become very clear here, that Lorie is projecting all the time.
SHE is the one, who killed for insurance money, NOT Kay or her brother.
SHE is the one, who is lying and manipulating.
Still she accuses everybody else of the same flaws.
Also it clearly shows her focus on money.
She is absolutely disqusting!!
Exactly
My heart breaks for those grandparents 💔
Lies on the ready. She sure took a lot of time to get that whole story thought out
Oh God "loved him" -past tense. Alarm bells ringing. Immediately sounds disturbing.
And so upbeat! Why?
Nice how Lori didn’t elaborate on how Alex murdered Charles.
Amazing how wicked someone can be. She used everyone.
The way Lori acts compaired to Charles on the lapel cam is VERY DIFFERENT...and ironic Lori claimed Charles was crazy and aggressive and angry and all the footage we've seen was Cool Calm But Concerned and Upset but still calm...and LORI is the one that gets HEATED and carried away... If Tylee wasnt there to tell her to "shhh",,,,
East Idaho News stays on it 🙌🏽🙌🏽
Yes, my heart goes out to JJ’s grandparents as they have to sit through this and listen to her lies and Chad’s lies as well. How awful it must be for them and I cannot even begin to imagine.❤
Wow. No one asked about the life insurance but Lori volunteers how bitter she is about Kay being the beneficiary. Twice. Then she tells police that Chad is Alex's "friend" when they ask her who the other guy was that they encountered at her place earlier. "He's an author" not "he's my husband". Wow.
I love the detective evening evasive saying isn’t that the chad daybell who’s wife died recently ahhaha when they know exactly who chad is and Lori is off the scale nuts
So heartbreaking seeing grampa’s face even covered by a mask you can say he’s distraught. Must be so hard to hear all the details
She adopted JJ???? Saved him as a 2 year old to give him a better life, just to kill him a few years later because she's nuts and believes in Zombie's. Unfreakin' Believable!!! 😠😤🤬☹️
how is she coming up with all these lies so quickly?!
She’s probably been doing it all her life, so it’s natural for her
A pathological liar can do that
That's what's so scary about psychopaths. They lie as easy as telling the truth
Ani K SHE IS A PATHOLOGICAL LIAR! THATS WHAT SHE HAS DONE, ALL HER LIFE!!!
Lori is the devil's spawn! Satan is the father of lies so that's how she is able to lie so easily.
Anyone else notice when she said she adopted JJ that she had “loved” him. She should have said that she loves him, not past tense if he was still alive? Big red flag to me.
Horrible horrible women!
Chad daybell is a very calculating man, just by watching his expressionless face.
I don't believe ether Chad or Lori have much in the way of intelligence. No sane or intelligent person would do what it strongly appears, in all probability, that these two have done.
Bet he is pissed that he wasn't there when she babbled to the police
I can see auras. He's ashamed and embarrassed actually.
"we had him since he was 8mo old to 2yrs old"
That's only 16 months, she really acts like she raised him and sent him off to college!
8:42 Chad probably tried this on other women...."we were married in prior lives" and they didn't fall for it. His luck is the one that does is crazier than him. XD
Imagine all the scheming Lori has done through 5 husbands and two of them dead
By all accounts, Lori was a good mom and a good person before she met Chad. Even JJ’s grandparents have said this repeatedly, so it seems like Chad was the one manipulating and the one who is most to blame for this. He used Lori’s faith to control her because she seems to have completely believed his bullshit.
I don’t think she should get off Scot free, and she deserves to spend just as much time in prison as Chad, or at least almost as much, but Chad is the reason this all happened in my opinion, none of it would have happened without him. He was the one who manipulated and controlled everyone around him, he’s probably the one who killed the children (he’s almost certainly the one who killed Tylee as he told his wife he shot a ‘raccoon’ that day which I assume was him covering for shooting Tylee) and he almost certainly buried them. Not to mention murdering his wife. He’s sick.
I 100% agree with you about him trying that with other women, he very clearly used religion to manipulate women, there’s no way this is his first time.
Ever heard one of those bozos say...we were divorced in prior lives? Lol.
@Diane Catts ABSOLUTELY!!!
100 % AGREED!!!!!
@@leea8706 Nope. No way.
“My brother and his friend” woowwww
That's hilarious how nonchalantly she says oh my brother's been trying to kill me but there's no record of it in the police station anywhere
OMG she is a FREAK!!
SHE'S CONVINCING HERSELF OF HER LIES..
Her brother's friend, lol
Did she say chad was her brothers friend ?
@ Jody Davis, yes and her voice went sketchy when she answered all the questions they were asking about him.
"Had to" bring up her kids. And, of course, she's the "victim".
5:03-510 she said I don’t tell people the truth . .. I look like a suspect but I’m not a nice person ... why would she say I look like a suspect ? Out of the abundance of the heart the mouth does speak .
The attorney caught it too his head whipped around so fast in disbelief that she would actually say that.
I have never heard someone lie as smoothly as this woman. Wow!
6:50 Hilarious how Lori has so much to say for herself when covering up JJ's disappearance by blaming his grandmother, but as soon as she tries to pass her husband Chad Daybell off as 'my brother's friend', and one of the cops says "Chad Daybell… Haven't I heard that name before? Didn't his wife die recently?" She suddenly goes as silent as all the graves she and old Chad have recently filled with innocent victims! Evil witch!
And Chad's face when she calls him her brother's friend and doesn't mention he's also her husband. He actually blinks - it's the first time we see any expression cross the face of old mailbox-mouth! My God, that huge, shapeless gob of his - now I see who Sesame Street modelled the 'Cookie Monster' on. It's Chad to the last detail! "COOOOOKEEEEEEEES!!!!"
As for Lori calling Chad 'An author" thinking it will impress the cops - PULEEZE! Anyone can self-publish a crummy, badly written book if they have a wife working full time to pay Amazon's self-publishing fees!
Well said. ❤
Life insurance is such a big deal in this whole thing. Every killing triggers a policy claim.
She said her husband died not.. "he was killed by my brother"
Lori sounded jealous and guilty by explaining that life insurance 🙄 she deserves death penalty
Omg...she keeps talking about how she didn't get the insurance money
Well, she just stated what her motive was for killing them right there. Her dead husband didn't leave her any money to care for them with. Selfish devious woman would rather kill them than give them to their grandparents, for then she can collect their social security checks.
It’s crazy how she spun that around.
Why wasn’t the video shown❓
Nothing will be shown to the public. Judge made that ruling.
Judge ruled that we can listen to audio but.we can not see video, that’s why it’s like this
Judge says videos cant be shown
Joe Griffith
Thank you for answering 👍🏻
She lies and the cops believe her. She never has to prove anything.
I have a feeling they're going to blame her dead brother for EVERYTHING
That deafening silence after the cop mentions Chad’s recently dead wife! Lori: 👁👄👁
Lori and chad are liers. Why lori laughed about it.
My heart breaks for Mr and Mrs Woodcock.
Omg nevermind I just looked up the story and seen that the two children were found dead on the step father’s property 😩🤦🏻♀️😔 this Is insane . The way they lied and used scripture to do it. I’m beyond disgusted.
Why don’t we get to see the body cam video? Is it available anywhere?
She says Chad was her brothers friend even though they were married..is that right?!
A welfare check should consist of direct contact with that child, period.