SIM JACK H-Pattern Shifter [REVIEW/TEARDOWN] A solid performance all around!
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00:00 Intro and features
02:28 Teardown
05:41 Testing and results
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Is it worth 30 dollars more for this vs the cheaper H shifter with the spring higher on top?
Sequential shift option?. For those that use it. Nice review. It looks good for what it does. Nylon gate? Hmmm...If you use this shifter regularly maybe another review in a month or two? Epoxy the magnet? probably a good idea!
Great review bro but help me to decide one to buy please if you were me which one to buy project d shfiter or this sim jack shifter … plz answer me
thank you!
Clever of him to put the "gear" part at the bottom (referring to the bearings/spring madoodler), that way it's more like throwing it in to gear. Wish I knew about this one before I payed more on the other USB shifter that is kinda garbage in comparison.
Mine just cleared customs. Hopefully just a couple days now.
assuming you own the moza hgp shifter, how would you compare it with this one? is it similar? do you think its worth the extra for the moza?
Thanks for the detailed review. How would you compare it to the other aliexpress shifters in terms of feel? Is this the new budget king?
The feel is inline with the other AliExpress shifters. There's not much to pick between them, so it doesn't matter. However, the Sim Jack is a bit easier to hit the gears without miss shifts or getting snagged on the gates.
Great reviews thanks for all your work. I have watched this and your project D one. In that video you said the project D was 900g vs 1.5kg for original cheeper shifter. This one you say 1.5 for project D. I am a little confused by this. Which of the 3 have the lightest to heaviest feel? and what do you find best?
Don't worry, I'm confused too. The Project D review will be correct details, as that was the earlier review. Anything, around 1kg+ I find is pretty good. I think the generic AliExpress shifters these days use lighter springs, so not as strong as the 1.5kg like mine was.
Hey, would you consider sound insulation on the inside of the metal and even a lining where the hole is, would it improve the noise issue?
Another question, do you still recommend this change today?
I did it right out of the box, so I don't have a good reference point. If anything, the *thunks are deeper in pitch, if not quieter, than before.
How does this feel heft wise, when compared to the amazing sequential version from them? The sequential version feels like it could be straight out of a race car, but the H pattern i get the feeling is a lot lighter in construction and solidness (if that is a word)
do you have a link to the sim jack shifter clamp i cant seem to find it
Is the moza shifter worth double the price over this one?
I've seen this shifter before and it reminds me a lot of the Moza Shifter, there are a lot of similar shifters on the market right now, I believe Moza's might feel better since it has more "premium" guts, but it does look "cheaper" on the outside, a video comparison would be great!
Moza is a lot different in side it uses ball bearings in a slot a bit like a beefed up Logitech shifter, vs the pinches on the aliexpress ones. Would be nice to sample them all.
I just bought this shifter, it feels great but a bit loose after some use, has anyone else had to tighten there's up? It actually feels more realistic not sure if I've just worn it in
Sim jack vs project d shifter? Im going to buy one but i can't decide...
If i needed both H pattern and Sequential shifter, do I get both these from Simjack or buy Fanatec one which has both built in? Space is not the issue, it's quality and value for money that i am looking at. I will rarely use both of these, as i mainly use paddle shifters.
I've always preferred them as separate devices. Combination shifters compromise on the seq mode feel, I find, they never quite get it right.
Would you suggest this over the generic aliexpress h shifter?
I can get the generic shifter for around 40$ and this sim jack one for 80$
What is the shift action like on this one compared to the Moza? I'm currently trying to decide between them both. I'd really like the Moza because it seems like a nicer mechanism but it's nearly 3 times the price where I live!!
which did you end up going with and do you regret it?
@@sick7587 I didn't get the Simjack or Moza but got one of those cheapish generic ones you see all over Aliexpress. It's actually really decent for the price and I don't regret it at all. I will probably upgrade to a Moza one day but the cheap one is working great for now.
is there any modification to put the shifter more quieter?
I just stuffed some foam inside the housing around the outer walls. That reduced the _clonk_ a bit. 🙂
Hello sir,,is there any option to make the gear transition more stiff?
Get a vnm shifter. Haha. Alot of these design has no way to stiffen the shifting.
does anyone have an idea what the things that hold the leaver are called? I want to buy them for my diy shifter.
I have the budget one you reviewed and wondering if I need to upgrade to match my Moza R9 and Simmagic Pedals. What do you think? Which shifter do you feel feels the most realistic? Thanks!
You should be fine with that shifter. If you spend more, you'll get a shifter with better build quality, but that won't improve the realism of sensation. It's not until you start looking at the shifters at £1000+, where things step up the realism.
@@SimRacingCorner Oh wow really? Even things like the Simmagic and all? I am NOT looking to spend more money its just crazy. So until you get to things like the BDH and all with real machining. Gotcha. Thanks!
The cheap AliExpress shifters have a very good tactile effect. It doesn't feel that much different to the Simagic. That's not to say there aren't other benefits of the Simagic shifter. The Simagic is a lot quieter, the tension is adjustable, reverse gear lockout, built-in sequential mode, smoother transitions between gears. And will last longer, as it's more robust. So it is a better bit of hardware. But If you want a more real mechanical chunky gearbox feel, then yeah, the BDH or BASH Pro level of hardware is where it's at.
How does this compare to the shh shifter?
any answer if you compare shh shifter with simjack?
Sim jack h-shifter vs project D shifter ?
I'm also on the same boat x.x more heading towards pxn a7 also
I wouldn’t do project d. I have a metal gated shifter. It’s not smooth, and annoyingly loud because of the metal gates. The noise does bug you after awhile. Nothing wrong with the function per se. but still, had me searching for a better shifter that didn’t cost hundreds. I chose sim jack.
Edit: plus the metal gates raises potential for missed shifts. I had plenty.
I just got mine up and running today. It replaced a Logitech G27 shifter. While this SimJack feels much nicer, there is one big negative... The hall effect sensors have a slight delay registering the magnet and you REALLY have to slow down your shifting. It's very annoying right now, and I hope I can merely adjust to it with some seat time. You can see this delay when you pull up USB controller settings in Windows. I jumped into a Miata race at Laguna Seca and killed the trans within two laps from all my miss-shifts.
I saw people suggest decreasing the clutch range (aka make it hit 100% when only
Now much of a delay? I have one and I didn't notice any delay when I was playing AC with it. The only thing I dont like is getting into 6th gear. It felt weird...
@@johnl2613I can't time it or anything but when you pull up the "usb game controllers" in Windows, you can see that the pressing the two buttons is instant while the gear selection takes a hair longer.
I can drive OK when I'm just solo'ing but in a tight race, I end up miss-shifting a lot trying to be quick.
@@johnl2613 mine just arrived today and 6th is a little weird for me too. Can't slot straight down into it from the wall of the reverse lockout, it's slightly further left. I also mis-shift back down to 4 from 5 instead of up into 6 pretty frequently trying to compensate for this. After a couple hours I got a lot more consistent with it but it is still kinda funky.
I think that corner of the gate needs to be altered slightly to match the slot for 5th. 5th is also slightly further left than the wall, but the gate is heavily rounded to guide it in. The gate barely rounds the corner into 6th, instead it's rounded mostly into reverse and ends up trapping the shifter, which is super unnecessary because you shouldn't need extra guidance to get to reverse like you would for a fast upshift. You can see what I mean at 4:22, reverse and 6th are at the top left of the gate and 5th is at the bottom left. I plan to open it up and file that corner down in the near future, I'll let you know if it helps.
And yeah, the hall effect sensors are a little laggy. I thought I was just being sloppy with my clutch but after you mention it it is pretty obvious. A stronger magnet might help? Might just be baked into the hardware though. The perils of buying cheap Chinese simracing hardware lol
@@johnl2613 re: bad 6th, I opened it up and fixed the problem. First, I'm happy to report Sim Jack already came to the same conclusion as I did regarding the gate rounding between 6th and reverse, on my unit it guides into 6th rather than into R as shown in video 4:22. The actual source of the grinding and difficulty getting into 6th was a MOUNTING BOLT, the one in the back left specifically. I'm using longer bolts I bought separately to be able to mount through a 2x4 so I'm not sure if this will happen with the included bolts mounted to a proper rig or not, but the back left one was long enough to be in the shifter's path on the right edge of 6th. After removing this bolt the shifter feels great in all positions.
As for the lag, my best idea right now is wire the sensors up to an Arduino and run it that way instead. There's no way the actual sensors should be this slow, I think it has to be a problem with the "brain" they're using for it. It's definitely not an issue of magnet strength, it's simply a delay - if I shift into and out of gear faster than it responds, it still does both, just delayed. Would be a pretty involved project though.
Can the shift knob be replaced with aftermarket knob?
Yes
This, or SHH Thorn?
Much obliged.
Does anyone know the length of the usb cable? I'm planning on getting this, but my pc sits kinda far from my rig
6' aka 2m
I use a USB extension cord myself.
Can you say about how loud it is compare to aliexpress budget one?
This is quieter
@@SimRacingCorner tks mate!
Hmmm not sure about the nylon gate's durability as I have the model with the top mounted aluminium gate and it is already pretty worn after a month of use. The problem is that unless you can easily find replacement gates, it would be rendered completely useless when it breaks. One of the common problems with these shifters is the magnet getting loose so it is advisable to apply epoxy where it meets the shaft, and this version having the magnet over the PCB, once loose it would slide down and destroy the hall effect sensors.
Are the simsonn and sim Jack the same pedals and shifter... Just a different name?
They are not the same
where do you get the 40 40 angle bracket shown in 5:20 ?
AliExpress
@@SimRacingCorner i couldnt find the exact one you used on your video, if you could fetch a link ill greatly appreciate it
@pgn787 Note, in the video, I do say I used a file on the bracket. s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_A9ctBo
oh right i was wondering about that, thanks!@@SimRacingCorner
Hey will you potentially be reviewing the Sim Jack Pros?
Yes, that's in the pipeline.
Really split between this one and the moza h pattern. Moza's is double the price
did you choose?
@@victorhoangiv Hey Victor, ended up going with the sim jack vs the moza. I am super happy with it, and the short shifter style is nice to shift quick and forget vs the thrustmaster one I was using before. I also highly recommend their sequential shifter, it is the most premium feeling out of the three I own now: H patter, sequential and handbrake. Cheers!
@@StevenFurio Thank you man!!!
Why are there so few views in video?
Good, but, only 6 Gear... Bad for Forza
big issues with 6th Gear. I sent IT Back within one day. Compared to my Fanatec I had before the Shifter is rubbish. 6th Gear is scratching and hard to get in. I am driving manual Shifter Cars in real life every day. So this is bot the issue
Had the same problem and that is because you probably use longer bolts. Longer bolts will hit the gear lever inside the shifter, so if you had used the included screws or shorter, you would have no issues.
Oh Shit, Just sent it back, needed one longer Bolt to get it fixed. Maybe I will rebuy
@@philippwei365 I just used a longer bolt I had with a plastic washer just enough to thread the bolt in. So maybe you sent it back to quick instead of resolving the issue easly.
pre commenting =p lol