Embraer Releases Exciting Video Of New Turboprop In Development
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- Опубліковано 15 сер 2022
- Whether by design or desire, Brazilian aerospace company Embraer is slowly but surely building interest in its new generation turboprop passenger aircraft. The planemaker’s latest teaser takes the form of a video presentation, which has now be published on UA-cam.
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Turboprops really under rated. Modern Turbo Props are quiet, fast, effiecient, and have great takeoff and landing performance.
I like the rear placement of the engines. It seems unique in the market and more like a jet, as they say.
It’s even a rare arrangement for jets. It’s almost all nowadays on the CRJ and ERJ. Previous jets that had this layout was the Il-62 and trijet Boeing 727 where 2 the engines are attached like that whilst the 3rd is in the tail itself via an S shaped duct for more efficient airflow vs straight through the top of the tail which was what was done in DC-10 snd MD-11
@@filledwithvariousknowledge2747 Also the DC-9/MD-80/90/Boeing 717 families of planes has/had the engines in the rear too!
Piaggio Avanti has rear facing turbo prop engines (wing mounted). Been around since 1986 and sold about 250 total.
@@3204clivesinclair So... unique as he said.
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I think one of the problems with that was it was very noisy
No other major aircraft builder has as concrete and advanced project of such green aviation-compatible aircraft.
Embraer is looking good.
I hope they make a good success at this. The market needs a major third competitor other then Airbus & Boeing. It would be nice if the aviation wealth is spread out in the Latin America countries where there is genuine need.
That's what Comac is aiming for, though I really hope Embraer and Bombardier join in too
@@jonseilim4321 at this moment, Embraer and Bombardier have a higher market acceptance and market share than comac though.
I dont believe this plane could make embraer compete with Boeing and Airbus, even if its extremelly succesfull. It could be like the e-jets and be succesfull, allowing Embraer to grow, but not enough to rival the current duopolly
The wealth is there, the corruption is stopping it from reaching the people.
@@chechnya Noted, corruption can only be dealt with if a country is progressing & the people see that money is not following down to the people. Then there will be backlass by the massess. That is my theory anway.
They are not so big and are not planning to go that big either. They even were very close to be bought by Boeing a couple of years ago. But ATR is in their sight,that's the target.
The next generation of turboprop-powered aircraft is coming soon! Props, (no pun intended) for Embraer Way to go!
Haha.
"The next generation of turboprop-powered aircraft is coming soon! Props, (no pun intended) for Embraer Way to go!"
Well, those Props better be spinning for Embraer 😄
@@tailsorange2872 Ba-dum tsssss
wow you brought nothing new here AND your pun fell flat... nice
Very cool and interesting. As someone who’s flown the EMBRAER 120,135/140/145, and training for the 170/175 fleet now; that design looks like the fuselage of a 170-195, with the wings of the 135-145, and with the props…reminiscences the 120. It would be really cool to see the airplane make production.
I'm excited for this plane. Hope it comes to fruition. Seems like having the engines at the back like that could be a really big benefit for this aircraft over its competitors.
Embraer is making changes that Boeing and Airbus aren’t willing to roll out as quickly!
Have you heard of ATR??
@Will Swift ATR is a turbo prop aircraft that Airbus has a 50% share in
@@chrisjob6040 thank you
@@managed9348 yes I have heard of ATR. However, I was unaware Airbus owns the majority of ATR.
I must clarify: Boeing and Airbus are yet to show any prototypes including this advanced turboprop (which surpasses current propeller technology), under the official company name. Thanks!
@@harpermonohan They don’t have to do such a thing under their main company. Airbus can do the R&D and then pass their technology to ATR as a transaction and then ATR can enjoy the technology without the R&D staff on their budgets.
Congratulations Embraer! wonderful aircraft
Hope this is the start of a new wave of turboprop design and implementation. Possibly for larger (150-300 passenger) aircraft as well. I'd love to see prop driven aircraft making a major comeback at major airports. Would be like a second golden age of propliners.
Hell yeah! I love turboprops and it would be great to see a comeback of the the great old days
Yer looking at FOUR ENGINE necessity AND plausibly TOO SLOW. ... STRADDLE .O.55mach practical speed
Embraer will be a successful competitor, thumbs up.
Embraer is a amazing company and for sure it's new turboprop will be a hit
Can't wait to hear this thing in flight, one thing I learned about the beech starship is that having its propellers in the back makes it sound unique
And LOUD.
The unique sound comes from the number and length of the blades, not the placement. To keep the blade tip clear of the ground on take-off rotation and landing, they have to be short, as a result they don't have the same mean area cord as a longer blade. So they add an extra blade to make up that loss, but they are still short, so they are turned faster than most turbo props. A good modern, and successful, example of this is the Piaggio Avanti. Those things make so much racket on the ground that even with hearing protection on, it still hurts to be near them. This plane will have a similar issue due to having to clear the rear fuselage, the blades will have to be short, and in this they show 8 blades, which will help the noise because they won't have to turn as fast. However, the UDF would still be a better and more fuel efficient design.
Embraer may capture a larger marketshare because there is no prop successor to the Q400. Some of those Q400 carriers may consider Embraer propeller aircraft. .
There is also the ATR 72 but this is ageing as well, so it is about time for a new competition in this sector.
If it passes the the technical hurdles then it may well have the field to itself. However, I think ATR will eventually provide a competitor response in some form or another.
Q400 will die without having given birth to children.
It looks promising. Right now ATR have the turboprop market pretty much completely to themselves, and there hasn't been any significant new, cleansheet designs for decades. The rear mounting is very clever. It'll be a much quieter cabin, but also a lot more spacious, as it allows the design to maintain the low wing layout of jets. If they can line up a decent launch customer, they should be good.
I think there is an alternative to ATR which is Dash-8, but, yes, I think jet NG/NEO/MAX planes have progressed much further.
looks like someone forgot the Dash 8
You’re forgetting DHC dash 8. It’s still the number one platform.
@@pbjman5809 Dash-8 isn't currently in actual production though, classic production has been stopped for a while and Q400 production is in the process of moving from Toronto to Calgary.
@@HekateMGO sure but there are still significantly more of them in service atm
This is exciting, the prop market lacks competition in this field with ATR currently the major (& only I believe) manufacturer of aircraft in this bracket , good luck to Embraer with this project.
Rooting for them! Let’s go
Embraer is always successful
i think it will be a big success.
cant wait to see this happened
Not much of an Embraer fan, but I do like this new bird. Best of luck to them.
It sure will be a success
Thank you for watching, be sure to tune in again! 😊✈️
I'm a big fan of turboprops, I believe they have a real future. So I'm cheering this on.
They are doing it...and they are doing it quietly!
Kind of reminds me of the GE36 propfan MD80 back in the day.
On the other hand, i hope they will make an executive express of this TPNG, perhaps with the turboprop engines mounted in pusher configuration just like the Piaggio P.180 Avanti. Although that would be noisier, but it will be a one cool looking plane!
Remember seeing that on test in Yuma, AZ. Was noisy as hell!
oh this is a cool looking turbo prop
our embraer is advancing more than ever
I haven't traveled by air since March of 1981, just haven't had the need and most of my travel has included things more easily transported by car.
The proposed Embraer turboprop is certainly graceful and appears to include many innovative features that will provide improved performance and passenger comfort.
Interesting! The 50-seat version of this would be the perfect replacement for the uncomfortable (and somewhat expensive to operate) CRJ-200, and the dodgy ATR42. As concerns the larger versions of this plane, if it has current-generation PW100 series turboprops, the fuel consumption will be the same as the E2 series; but if the turboprops on these concept aircraft are considerably more efficient than a PW100 series powerplant, these aircraft would make sense. It will be interesting to see what next-generation turboprops will be used here. And, it's definitely a good idea for the turboprops to be placed at the rear; it's the only way turboprops can survive.
I would love to see the cramped CRJ series go bye bye
Eu amo Embraer! Embraer é legal.
What a beautiful plane!
We agree! ✈️
BRAZIL!!!! PENTA CAMPEÃO DO MUNDO
This is what the world needs for really short routes freeing up the regional jets to be better used for longer routes that are still short of what the mainstream 6 abreast can do that aren’t efficient on those distance routes
Turboprops are incredibly stable.
Bro just continues to impress.
With them getting E2s, I would put money on Porter being a launch customer to replace the Q400s as they age out.
Simplesmente Fantástica esse novo EMBRAER Turbocop
So this is the new Q400 in terms of how fast it can go by turboprop standards but much more efficient. Hopefully it’ll sound just as great
Nice to have competition! ATRs are great, but the lack of competition usually brings some acomodation.
It’s about time!
It will be a fantastic aircraft.
Best wishes
Looks and sounds like an excellent new design…. Thanks Laurie NZ.
Wonderful aircraft by the look
I'm not sure how much aesthetics should enter into the discussion, but if looks count, this is gonna be a winner!
It's all about the $$ these days so whatever aircraft offers the lowest cost per passenger mile will win the day... So far it's the C Series/Airbus A220-100/300/500* but it's nice to see some friendly competition from Embraer here against what was Dash 8 territory... Anything with 2+2 seating is a winner to me!
Looks like a good domestic short haul design.
looks like a fever dream ATR/E145 kinda thing and i don't know how i feel about it
Looks like a very cool airplane! I love turboprops and I think they should be used a lot more in short haul routes as well as providing service to smaller airports.
Those wings look very small compared to the size of the plane, so there's probably something innovative there as well.
If they can keep the comfort level up, sound inside cabin down and fuel burn down, they may have a winner. Good luck.
i like this… i like it a lot. excited to see where this project goes
Counter rotating UDF would look cool on this platform
Yay! A new friend :)
This plane with the cfm rise would be so sick
I think if Embraer adapts an updated GE36 (UDF), an Ultra High Bypass Engine, it would be a great success
It could be very useful for getting from an area where there's a local airport to a major airport in a hurry.
I've always liked turbo prop aircraft they are some of the most fuel efficient aircraft in the skies. Now if only the airlines would pass that savings along to the passengers in the form of reduced ticket prices. FLY NAVY!!!
I already enjoy flying on turboprop aircraft. I hope I get to fly aboard one of these someday. Modernizing the aircraft to a "jet-like experience" is a brilliant idea increase acceptance.
It will work as a competitor to the ATR and to be flown to airports with short runways. If it is greener than other options good. If there are 4000 possible orders I hope Embraer can get half.
Looks like a good idea. Not everyone needs a big jet.
The turboprop is sure in need for a refreshment. Either one of the commercial, business or defense verticals could use a redesigned platform with improved economics. As to the design itself many questions are still to be answered, specially the ones regarding safety - e.g. contingency in case of a broken blade. This and the other new gen props proposed by embraer have a rear mounted power plant because of future fuel sources. In one interview i saw (maybe even here on SF) the engineers said the best place for a hydrogen-filled spherical tank would be at the rear, thus making sense to place the engines close to it.
Yes Aer Lingus uses a old prop plane from Dublin to Edinburgh just one of many uses
Great story!
Love it.
The rear mounting of the engines will definitely be very quiet. Looking forward to seeing the final details.
I believe it will
I feel that 90 capacity is probably just about right.
Probably a Success There are Two Popular Turboprop Option the ATR - 72 And the Bombardier Q400 NG
So this will be a Game Changer.
Without much fanfare... I see what you did there 😂. It's a nice concept, if the rear mounted engines will be quieter then it should do well
👍👍 Bravo!
Embraer moving ahead, Bombardier moving backwards (no Q400 garbage replacement)
Essa mesma aeronave será movida a hidrogênio num futuro próximo....
Embraer 🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷
Good for a lower level commuter between large airport hubs.
Also a jet stream of air produces more thrust than a fan blade blowing air every direction.
They might be onto something.... Let's see...
Yes, the turboprop is STILL relative!
If the chosen engine is compatible with sustainable aviation fuel and convertible to electric propulsion or hydrogen fuel, this could be a very effective offering.
Longing to fly it
I quite enjoy transiting through Hartsfield airport...
I always thought there is a big market on the 50-100 seats with all the aging 30 year old planes holding that space. Good move of embraer to cover that. I always hoped airbus would be more agile and market orientatet, but recently it gets its butter taken by north and south american corporations.
When I was working at NASA Dryden back in the 90's GE was testing out what was called the unducted fan engine which was supposed to be more efficient than conventional duct-ed engines. Fuel prices dropped and that was the end of it. Is this basically the same idea?
no. regular turboprops, just positioned in a way they say will facilitate the adoption of alternative fuels in the future
The TPNG sounds like such an increase in efficiency that there are many reasons for it and currently none against.
the placement of the engines should also reduce yaw.
I think this has potential. It could replace lots of the q400 and other turboprop airliners. It’s also more economical which is better.
Brilliant way to isolate propulsion noise. Latest tech enables it.
Alaska airlines would be a perfect fit for this. Covering Skywest, horizon, etc for all the puddle jumpers. I hope this works out. Would be awesome to see a leaner turbo prop enter the market.
Shorter landing gear, lower weight, thinner wing less drag, engines in the rear less noise in the cabin. Hope the fuselage is protected with Kevlar for the event of a runway propeller blade. Better handling on single engine?
not contra-rotating props? or is that 10-15% efficiency to old school? any possibility they will option a short range electric version?
They should consider going with a pusher prop design
The whole point is that ERJ's replaced turboprops on shorter routes because they are more efficient and faster. So this could well be the missing link between the two segments, and if large enough (and efficient enough) could be a great alternative for flights under 2 hours for sure.
Most definately an aircarft rather late in comi8ng.MD87.DC9 turbo prop ideal for short haul a coming necessity.
I just hope it has good STOL capability
Given state of technology and expected rate of progress. They would be wise to develop a hybrid turbo prop. Battery boosted for take off with ultra low cruising fuel burn rate. Even better if it’s hydrogen fuel capable. Such a system would be upgraded more easily as better and better batteries come along and hydrogen infrastructure comes along.
This Story remind me of the story about propfan PW 578-DX with excessive noise.
Ever increasing traffic makes major hubs are increasingly more difficult to get to. When there's a choice people prefer to go to suburban airports like MacArthur, Westchester, & Newburgh in the NYC metro area. Yes, Newburgh is way out there, but if you live in a northern suburb it could easily take less time to reach.
Since Covid there seems to be a market for planes that can do 'thin' routes profitably turboprops might make a comeback.
If the true purpose of placing the props aft in a tractor position, think of how much quieter the craft would be in a pusher configuration...or would that be a reminder of the Starship?
This could really kill off the Dash 8 programme and hurt the ATR programme too.
👏👏👏👏
For a moment, I thought they were going to go the route of the propfan, but this works too, I suppose.
A rerun of the Embraer-FAMA CBA123 Vectra of 1990