You're talking about the obelisk building phase like it was ages ago while I'm still waiting for my first Pick-a-Brick order of obelisk parts to arrive.
Lol your right Luca. In my world it seems like ages ago because Obelisk video #1 was Mid September I believe. Thid means it was probably close to 100 videos ago lol. I like to stay busy lol
But that's one of the reasons why I love this channel so much. So much community interaction and engaging with the most interesting questions and feedback given.
Lol thanks, it's great to get ideas from all of you and be able to deliver on them. I learn so much from this channel every day. I gladly sacrifice production quality for timeliness sometimes to a fault, but it keeps it fun for everyone, including myself.
This is a meta-comment on several "half LDU" increment comments. First, as pointed out, if each layer is one LDU smaller, and you want it centered, then each layer cannot connect to the next layer up -- you have to connect to two layers up. This means you have essentially two separate towers, co-constructed, and they are not connected -- the second tower is not attached to the base, and only held by the "adjacency". It means that each layer needs smooth tops, as the studs cannot be connected. But all that is doable. It means that the insides have to have all the magic, and LOTS of space -- each tower layer needs to connect up two layers higher, and not disturb the other tower's internals. All of this is doable. And if the "hidden strangeness" is inside the layers, and half LDU per-side difference, you are nearly as smooth as the smooth obelisk. In fact, I want to know how you made the outside of that smooth obelisk without any visible steps even as you have to remove studs in the process -- you can probably do something similar to make the outside of this monstrosity smooth, even as smooth tops between layers does not actually attach anything.
Nah you should totally do this with a quarter plate difference (1 ldu on each side), I don't think it would be an impossible challenge, you definitely have the knowledge and skills imo. Even what you've already done on the obelisk project so far is crazy in my eyes.
Honestly that is probably beyond me. Some of the guys on the Discord Obelisk Channel have pushed it quite far specifically Luca Hermann. And it's insanely complicated.
Cool video! Obelisk 1.0 definitely looks much more solid! Also in the video you say that if you make layers with a difference of 1 LDU, then the gradation on the obelisk will be 0.5 LDU. Yes, but then you will not be able to connect these layers as needed, using the "standard" types of connection, since we do not have elements that will allow us to go to the level of 0.5 LDU (by definition, 1 LDU is already the minimum)
No, they won't be attached to the core or flush against the core. Best you could do is to center them using wedges and gravity. But they currently are also not attached, merely sitting flush against the core.
It would probably have to be like this: Layer 1, 3, 5, 7 and so on are connected and layer 2, 4, 6, 8, and so on are connected separately. Maybe there is one layer where you could connect both steps (almost) perfectly together.
The smooth-sided obelisk does look much nicer as an artistic creation, but I think the evened-out stairstep obelisk is a better "Build it yourself" model as the sections make for natural progression steps and it's much easier to assemble both from parts and if it gets knocked over and breaks.
The point is that there is an increment every 4 units, with transparent walls you can get arbitrarily small increments, and you can get them at all (height) units :-) (sorry, you are going to hate me :-) )
@@bricksculpt wow, you took time off your vacation to confirm that now you hate me, lol :-) (relax, I'm joking I understand you answer. Please have a good time off and answer us when you are back! Your channel is amazing)
As "clean" as the smooth-faced obelisk is, I do definitely prefer the stepped version, personally; it just looks more 'Lego' to me, and that feels like the point of making an obelisk out of Lego in the first place, instead of just 3D-printing one with perfectly smooth sides or whatever.
I presume layers with a 1 LDU increment would be impossible to centre, as otherwise you’d have a way of producing 0.5 LDU increments, which contradicts the definition of LDU.
Amazing! I couldn't imagine the ½ LDU perimeter. It's not only a brain bend, it probably isn't as easy as it sounds. I like the quick fix to the old obelisk. Other than the obvious thing I usually say, I got another idea. Make the layers like you did here, but that each layer is a nice design. Like a simple short QR code for the bottom layer or a smiley face or an arrow or spiral two colors around or whatever you think looks cool and that you can pull off. So that it's 'just an obelisk ' (LoL) and comes apart to show a different design in each layer. Or even have the layers look like letters that spell something, such as BRICK SCULP IDK, I'm trying to help you amp it up even more.
He can't. Every layer is already a complicated design, to get the taper & create a core to attach to. That's why he didn't finish the cores: he didn't have time to design them, fully, in time for the video. Each step requires a custom core.
I wonder if the central structure of a tiered-step obelisk could be strengthened by simply repeating those 1-20 LDU steps from the last video on all four sides of the obelisk. That might allow for a singular, solid core (with lots of goblets), but no more precarious connection points between tiers
This just means that it IS possible to do 1 LDU differences in layers, and I'm wondering who will be crazy enough to try it out. I suspect that the top piece will need to be made bigger to accommodate for the sheer amount of space needed to add goblets (unless neck brackets are used), but theoretically it's possible.
If this is as far as you can take the obelisk with something with discrete connection points like System (bricks, tiles, plates), I wonder how far you can take it with something with continuous connection points like Technic (beams, axels, pins) or Bionicle/Hero Factory/Mixels (ball joints).
I don't know much about LDUs, and others have already mentioned subLDU increments. that said, if you could center a 1 LDU difference so it's a half LDU on each side, then that technique could be used to make half LDU differences anywhere. Really you should not be thinking of the total difference in width between levels but the difference in position between abutting segments.
If you could actually get it down to a 1 LDU difference so that the per-side change would be 0.5 LDU, would you need to shrink the definition of LDU so it was still the smallest fundamental distance?
I appreciate the concern, right now i am really trying to build the channel. I manage my time pretty well and I like keeping very busy but a. I'm gradually slowing down so I don't burn out.
This man won’t stop until he exposes every last lego build technique and I am here for it. Whether I can comprehend it is another story.
I can't wait for the day he uses the "lego" text on top of studs for something
LOL I'll do my best
That is actually worth talking about cause it actually messes up the system at times
You're talking about the obelisk building phase like it was ages ago while I'm still waiting for my first Pick-a-Brick order of obelisk parts to arrive.
Lol your right Luca. In my world it seems like ages ago because Obelisk video #1 was Mid September I believe. Thid means it was probably close to 100 videos ago lol. I like to stay busy lol
Dude has next day delivery on video requests how is this possible
It terrifies me. I brought up the goblet, and the next day he made a video about it.
But that's one of the reasons why I love this channel so much. So much community interaction and engaging with the most interesting questions and feedback given.
That's a big part for me why It's so good. I can read the comments and be excited for a new video in the coming days!
Lol thanks, it's great to get ideas from all of you and be able to deliver on them. I learn so much from this channel every day. I gladly sacrifice production quality for timeliness sometimes to a fault, but it keeps it fun for everyone, including myself.
This is a meta-comment on several "half LDU" increment comments.
First, as pointed out, if each layer is one LDU smaller, and you want it centered, then each layer cannot connect to the next layer up -- you have to connect to two layers up. This means you have essentially two separate towers, co-constructed, and they are not connected -- the second tower is not attached to the base, and only held by the "adjacency". It means that each layer needs smooth tops, as the studs cannot be connected. But all that is doable.
It means that the insides have to have all the magic, and LOTS of space -- each tower layer needs to connect up two layers higher, and not disturb the other tower's internals.
All of this is doable. And if the "hidden strangeness" is inside the layers, and half LDU per-side difference, you are nearly as smooth as the smooth obelisk. In fact, I want to know how you made the outside of that smooth obelisk without any visible steps even as you have to remove studs in the process -- you can probably do something similar to make the outside of this monstrosity smooth, even as smooth tops between layers does not actually attach anything.
Lots of good info there to consider. If you want to see how the smooth Obelisk is made watch the Obelisk series it's all show in the videos.
Nah you should totally do this with a quarter plate difference (1 ldu on each side), I don't think it would be an impossible challenge, you definitely have the knowledge and skills imo. Even what you've already done on the obelisk project so far is crazy in my eyes.
Honestly that is probably beyond me. Some of the guys on the Discord Obelisk Channel have pushed it quite far specifically Luca Hermann. And it's insanely complicated.
I didn't think the obelisk would return so soon.
Cool video! Obelisk 1.0 definitely looks much more solid!
Also in the video you say that if you make layers with a difference of 1 LDU, then the gradation on the obelisk will be 0.5 LDU. Yes, but then you will not be able to connect these layers as needed, using the "standard" types of connection, since we do not have elements that will allow us to go to the level of 0.5 LDU (by definition, 1 LDU is already the minimum)
No, they won't be attached to the core or flush against the core. Best you could do is to center them using wedges and gravity. But they currently are also not attached, merely sitting flush against the core.
It would probably have to be like this: Layer 1, 3, 5, 7 and so on are connected and layer 2, 4, 6, 8, and so on are connected separately. Maybe there is one layer where you could connect both steps (almost) perfectly together.
Yes I believe you are correct. If you used a method with infinite movement like sliders, technic axels or bars you might beable to work around it.
lovely! thank you for another great video. is good to see you channel growing!
Thanks!
Excellent! Thank you for indulging us, haha!
You're welcome!
the second i saw that comment on the LDU video i knew you would do it hahah
The most reasonable answer is that he's a mastermind at putting in commentable material and setting up each video ahead of time :p
@ maybe we who comment are just predictable :0
Lol nice
Honestly most my videos are derived from comments lol it's the best way to learn and guarantee interest.
The return of the thing that got me hooked on this channel :)
Lol always going back to Obelisks
The smooth-sided obelisk does look much nicer as an artistic creation, but I think the evened-out stairstep obelisk is a better "Build it yourself" model as the sections make for natural progression steps and it's much easier to assemble both from parts and if it gets knocked over and breaks.
Yeah I see what you mean.
Scheduling videos so we all don’t go through withdrawals while you’re out 😂❤ Enjoy your time off!
I appreciate that, I will be back in full swing soon!
Great job. I was thinking this very thing when I saw your last video about 1 LDU.
Hope you have a great vacation.
Thanks! Be back soon
The point is that there is an increment every 4 units, with transparent walls you can get arbitrarily small increments, and you can get them at all (height) units :-) (sorry, you are going to hate me :-) )
Yes that is true
@@bricksculpt wow, you took time off your vacation to confirm that now you hate me, lol :-) (relax, I'm joking I understand you answer. Please have a good time off and answer us when you are back! Your channel is amazing)
That looks so good! Nice work
Thank you!
As "clean" as the smooth-faced obelisk is, I do definitely prefer the stepped version, personally; it just looks more 'Lego' to me, and that feels like the point of making an obelisk out of Lego in the first place, instead of just 3D-printing one with perfectly smooth sides or whatever.
I get that makes sense
I presume layers with a 1 LDU increment would be impossible to centre, as otherwise you’d have a way of producing 0.5 LDU increments, which contradicts the definition of LDU.
I second this thought
Not only that; how is it possible to create a 1 LDU corner (with no visible gaps) when there is no bracket with an odd LDU thickness?
Not if he gets Lego technic involved in some way!
It would likely require a slide able piece like technic or bars. But it would be quite tricky not sure if impossible or not.
That's another challenge goblets definitely won't work. Neck brackets maybe.
hoooooly shit that smooth obelisk looks AMAZING
Thanks!
i always thought something looked uneven about the original obelisk 1.0 but i could never put my finger on it
Same lol
Never been this early to a video! And to a lovely obelisk video, no less
Thanks!
Amazing! I couldn't imagine the ½ LDU perimeter. It's not only a brain bend, it probably isn't as easy as it sounds. I like the quick fix to the old obelisk. Other than the obvious thing I usually say, I got another idea. Make the layers like you did here, but that each layer is a nice design. Like a simple short QR code for the bottom layer or a smiley face or an arrow or spiral two colors around or whatever you think looks cool and that you can pull off.
So that it's 'just an obelisk ' (LoL) and comes apart to show a different design in each layer. Or even have the layers look like letters that spell something, such as BRICK SCULP IDK, I'm trying to help you amp it up even more.
He can't. Every layer is already a complicated design, to get the taper & create a core to attach to. That's why he didn't finish the cores: he didn't have time to design them, fully, in time for the video. Each step requires a custom core.
Lol love the suggestions as always!!!
Where can I buy the table top mat that you have on your desk?
WE WANT THE HALF LDU OBELISK!
I wonder if the central structure of a tiered-step obelisk could be strengthened by simply repeating those 1-20 LDU steps from the last video on all four sides of the obelisk. That might allow for a singular, solid core (with lots of goblets), but no more precarious connection points between tiers
I love the idea. Corners will be a challenge.
This just means that it IS possible to do 1 LDU differences in layers, and I'm wondering who will be crazy enough to try it out. I suspect that the top piece will need to be made bigger to accommodate for the sheer amount of space needed to add goblets (unless neck brackets are used), but theoretically it's possible.
Not sure if it is or not but not sure if I want to find out lol.
The obelisk will follow you to the grave. Ironically and somewhat morbidly, it could literally be your grave, too.
Lol you figured out my plan... jk
Both look great, depending on the style of the builds around them
Thanks!
Now you need to make Orthanc tower: FOUR obelisks making a big obelisk.
That would be sick!
If this is as far as you can take the obelisk with something with discrete connection points like System (bricks, tiles, plates), I wonder how far you can take it with something with continuous connection points like Technic (beams, axels, pins) or Bionicle/Hero Factory/Mixels (ball joints).
I don't know much about LDUs, and others have already mentioned subLDU increments. that said, if you could center a 1 LDU difference so it's a half LDU on each side, then that technique could be used to make half LDU differences anywhere. Really you should not be thinking of the total difference in width between levels but the difference in position between abutting segments.
That's an interesting thought. Not sure if it's even possible to do in the first place though.
YEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSS
If you could actually get it down to a 1 LDU difference so that the per-side change would be 0.5 LDU, would you need to shrink the definition of LDU so it was still the smallest fundamental distance?
I'm not sure lol
If you change the lighting to come from the side instead of the top, the steps won’t be as obvious.
Apparently all roads lead back to The Obelisk
Yes lol they do
Honor the Obilisk 1.0 by going all the way!
Or don't if you don't want to.
Lol we will see
Have a wonderfull vacation.
Thank you!
I think the stepped version will look way better, reason being the gaps in the angled make it look amateurish
Yeah, the gaps make it look like there's grey pieces in there.
Yeah I agree neither are perfect but the steps still stand out a lot more to me.
Enjoy the vacation!
Thanks!
You should get a healthier video upload schedule
I appreciate the concern, right now i am really trying to build the channel. I manage my time pretty well and I like keeping very busy but a. I'm gradually slowing down so I don't burn out.
that makes it obelisk 1.1b
I'm going to use that lol
It's always a schvatztica
Where can I buy the table top mat that you have on your desk?
Rebrickable but I think they are unavailable.