One of the Best Valued “True” GMT Watches on the Market - Seiko Presage Sharp Edge GMT Review
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- Опубліковано 22 сер 2024
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In this video, we'll take a look at an impressive new range of Seiko watches from the Presage Sharp Edged collection: the SPB217, SPB221, & SPB225. These new watches rely upon the new "true" in-house 6R64 automatic caliber.
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My Fiance saw me looking at the seiko 140 th sharpe edge videos… and arrived home with it today. It’s a stunning time piece I’m an extremely happy man today ❤️
Despite seiko going up market I still find it hard to argue the sheer amount of value you get with all their peices. Definitely one of the greatest watch makers of all time
Casio is the clear winner
@@alfieakaronaldog Not fair, Casio is on a league of their own. Like comparing Usain bolt to a cheetah
@@alfieakaronaldog That’s nonsense. Casio doesn’t make mechanical watches. Their designs are also far away from anything „conventional“ or elegant. So Casio is not even a competitor to Seiko.
I absolutely agree it's a lot of value for the money and very well worth it
And yet this watch is absolute crap. Too thick, power reserve indicator is an afterthought, date dial?! Text on 3 o’clock is a terrible looking print.
After initial wow because of the dial is a huge letdown.
Purchased both the black dial and the limited edition white dial when this watched was first release. As someone who collects true GMT watches I was egger to get my hands on these Sharp Edge models as I felt the price was too good to pass up. After a year of ownership I have found these watches to be one of the best price to value propositions you can find in the watch world. The GMT movement is reliable and accurate and the watch looks much more expensive then it is, and as an earlier post mentioned this is a watch that will not be stolen off your wrist in LA or London. Due the targeting of tourists wear expensive watches I typically now travel with the black dial Sharp Edge GMT and the Seiko Willard. Both look great, tell time well, are a very good value and do not attract the attention of would be thieves. I would highly recommend the Sharp Edge GMT. One final comment I also own the Mido Ocean Star GMT and it should be noted that it is a very large watch even for my 7.25” wrist. Nice watch but the bracelet I feel is lacking and legibility is just ok. It does have a great power reserve and I is an accurate watch.
Oh man this is not true at all. These thieves will jack you up for far less than a 2000 dollar watch. Plus from a distance how would a street thug tell the difference between a 2000 dollar watch or a 10k watch?
Nice summary Scott, ive got my eye on a white dial option, what are your thoughts on this?
@@paulbinyon6504 I have the limited edition white dial as well as a black dial I highly recommend the white dial model
Just received my SPB 223. Love it but I also love my Mido Ocean Star. I like the bracelet better on the Mido. Its wider and beautifully polished so its super soft. Cant go wrong with either.
@@scottscarpato6025hey Scott are you still collecting, I have the Seiko Presage Akebono Sharp Edged GMT which I’m looking to sell let me know
I bought the blue dial, a year ago, when they were first released. After seeing all of them in person, I would recommend buying the blue dial first, then the black second. The black dial is beautiful, but you lose some of the 3-dimension look of the dial, because of the darker color. Overall, a great watch. This was my first watch, before I fell into the watch collecting rabbit-hole. It is a solid choice, and still gets 50% of my wrist time at work, even though it is my cheapest watch (great value). Also, it is a great travel watch. It is nice enough to look impressive, without causing the threat of being stolen. It strikes a really good balance in my collection, and gets a lot of wrist time.
I love this setup, I just wish it was a little smaller, like a 40-41.
How would you compare this to a king Seiko, given they are similarly priced?
It’s a great watch. I bought the blue dial version as soon as it came out and love it. Well worth the cost. Only down side: bracelet doesn’t have enough micro-adjustments. But the quality and feel of the bracelet is very good. And the watch is very flexible; can be worn in work environments or casual situations. Perfect travel watch.
I stumbled across your channel a few weeks ago, and it’s taken me on a journey. I just bought my first Seiko watch, the Seiko Presage SRPG03 and I absolutely love it. Up until I started watched you, I only ever bought fashion brands. It’s night and day, the difference in quality of material, finishing, precision of movement and overall look/feel. Thanks so much for putting out content at this level.
I absolutely love Seiko watches and own quite a lot of them. I recently bought a Cronos GMT for £280 and I have say that its a fantastic watch regardless of the price. The quality of the assembly, polishing, movement and appearance is amazing. It only lost 20 seconds a week of wearing.
There is the Certina DS Action GMT with the same Powermatic version as in the Mido for around 900$. True GMT, solid movement with 80h power reserve, 200m water resistance, screw down crown, a great everyday watch 🐢😃👍
I've really wanted that one for a while (black dial on bracelet), especially grey-market due to pricing...but it seems to have completely disappeared from everywhere.
Got mine couple of weeks backs, the SPB223 (140th anniversary edition). Stunning watch for the price, good bracelet and a very reliable movement. Only thing I would fault it the lack of micro adjustments in the bracelet.
I've picked the Seiko Presage Ocean Traveler GMT - mine is in rose gold and cream: SARF012 JDM. 😎
Same 6R64 caliber but in a 40mm diameter case with 24h makers in the dial not on the bezel.
GMT movements such as the Sellita 330-2 can be configured either way - if the manufacturer opts for the jumping hour hand, then this is done at the expense of a quick-set date, whereas with the "office" type the quick-set date function is preserved at the cost of the jumping hour hand.
As a sailor moving at 6 knots I don’t cross time zones very frequently, so I prefer the "office" configuration. In solar navigation, setting the GMT hand to "true" GMT can be used to calculate longitude, and in the modern age it can be used to configure navigational devices where you need to set the GMT offset. I suppose we could call the jumping-hour versions “airplane” GMT’s, and rename the jumping-GMT hand variety “sailor” GMT’s for the same reasons. I do get weary of the term “true GMT”, because it seem to imply that moving from an "office" to a "traveller's" GMT is an "upgrade" that requires a more expensive or elaborate movement.
People who rotate between different watches in their collection need to be aware of this tradeoff in functionality. If you don’t wear your "Traveller" GMT watch every day, you will need to get used to the laborious process of winding the time set until the date clicks over to the current one. This is a nuisance as far as I am concerned, but my point is there are tradeoffs either way - you just have to decide which suits your needs best.
That bronze dial watch is unbelievably beautiful, keen to get my hands on one of those soon
I just love the seiko dials is unique and not boring like other Swiss brand’s within that price range
I bought the SPB303 limited edition blue a couple months ago and I absolutely love it. I wear it in my weekly rotation and it's a joy on my wrist.
FINALLY a review on the Sharp Edge GMT.
The way I see it, the Mido Ocean Star GMT is the sportier, more tool-y side of the coin called the True GMT GADA under USD1500 with this Sharp Edge as the way dressier, a bit sporty side with this really gorgeous dial*. I have the 140th anniversary variant (SPB223J1); despite the rather strange decision on the rehout color** I believe this is the variant to get, then the SPB303 that was just released. If anything the 140th anniversary edition converted me into a white dial person - the Sharp Edge dial is *that* good. Now to find a gorgeous leather strap for this...
* apparently the Sharp Edge series has MORE colors in line. All of them beautiful in their own way.
** the dark blue should have been on top IMO, but Seiko is rational, they have Reasons™ why they put the white on top, the blue at the bottom
Very happy with my SPB167. To my surprise, it also wore well when my girlfriend put it on. Very classy. The bracelet is rattly though - at least it’s light and secure. But this really is an oversight for their entire Sharp Edge collection, as you correctly pointed out.
This one is different!
The one I got, is accurate, no issues regarding the alignmens, no scratches here and there under the crystal, highly legible and beautiful, it's almost the perfect watch regarding the price and quality for my 19cm flat wrist.
Highly recommend.
Seiko killing it again. This is expensive for them but it’s pretty clearly worth the price. The dial is insane as it is for all the sharp edge pieces.
i ordered one (blue) off ebay july 17 and just received it today july 20. i paid $761, plus tax and $12.50 shipping. i don't know about it at ~$1500, but for around $850, i love this thing! i think it's beautiful and don't get teddy's issue with the bracelet. i think the bracelet is great.
i've never seen a GS spring drive in real life, but i think the 6r64's sweep crushes my tudor black bay 58's, and, of course, all of my other automatics. it's almost like the sweep i imagined on a rolex, back when i was a kid. very very smooth.
Bought the white dial and love the way it pops in the light was stuck in between formex essence and chose this due to true GMT and limited run
Thanks, Teddy! I have that MIDO Ocean Star GMT, unbelievably underrated watch.
Agreed! Mido in general is overlooked. They make a great watch.
@@TeddyBaldassarre Does this mean Mido video very soon? 👀
Interesting. When considering "true" GMT (independently adjustable hour hand) this is certainly useful for travel. I had one for a good 10yrs+. However, for the last ten years or so I have had dual time for travel which I find to be far better. The GMT hand really comes into it's own when monitoring other time zones from home or office particularly when combined with a rotating 24hr bezel. For this purpose operating the 24hr hand on the first pull is very convenient. Just my opinion.
Thanks for the idea, is there a dual time watch you can recommend?
@@rickstard73 the Seiko Astron GPS Solar is my current go to for travel. Love it.
As someone who is actively looking into purchasing a GMT watch, this one has been near the top of my list for a while, among Monta Atlas GMT and Tudor BB GMT. Even though they are all in different price ranges, this Seiko still has some advantages in few areas. Probably the nicest dial of 3 but very underwhelming bracelet, clasp and movement. I do enjoy see through case back in general, but in this case, not much to show off.
Don't forget the Longines Spirit Zulu Time.....one simply can't wrong w/this masterpiece. Worth every penny IMHO. For the recored, I also love Tudor BB and Monta....many folks don't know about Monta, but they are a solid watch company indeed.
@@amgolfer3591 agree, idk how I forgot about that one
@@MegaSale89 it's easy as I don't feel Longines gets the love it rightfully deserves. I would take it over the Tudor BB and definitely over a Monta. For the record, I love both Tudor and Seiko. I am still researching out Monta--just haven't pulled the trigger as there seems to be other watch brands I lean more towards.. Take care my friend.
I only tried this one on without buying it, but as long as you could take the larger and thicker dial that would make you feel the watch all the time, as well as the unorthodox 6 o'clock date dial, this is a great everyday watch especially for someone managing cross-time-zone business or travel a lot for a very affordable price. I am also of the opinion that this is more or less targeted at the GMT line of Grand Seiko as an alternative for about 1/5 to 1/6 of the price.
I've been in the market for a sub-$2k GMT watch recently (the Mido is on my list of Possibles) and the Seiko GMT caught my eye very early on in my search. I love almost everything about it: the case design, the dial texture, the unobtrusive bezel, the hands, the overall value for the price, etc. It's slightly larger than I'd like, but it's still smaller than my Samurai, which never feels like a "big" watch while I'm wearing it.
But I cannot stand that date dial. I hate it. And I'm not someone who minds busy dials; the power reserve doesn't bother me, and a date window would be just fine. But I just can't get over the date wheel, and I know if I bought this watch I'd see that damned thing every time I looked at my wrist, and no amount of case finishing or dial texture would be enough to look past it. It's a real shame, but so it goes. I'm sure there are collectors out there who love that look, and more power to them.
If this was 39-41 mm I'd be all over it.
Man, I can't decide between the black or blue dial. 🤔⌚
Thanks for making this video Teddy! I DM'd you and your team last year requesting a video on the Sharp Edge GMT's and it wasn't in the plans at the time. Glad you got around to it! It's an awesome GMT watch for the price. I didn't scoop one up yet myself but I had my eye on the white dial variant for some time. Seiko did great with this watch.
I can testify this watch is nice. The seconds hand sweep is very satisfying. And as you mentioned, these complications at this price point are insane. I have the white one. Beforehand I would have thought I'd choose the blue but while trying it out, the white one was the winner for me.
How would you compare this to a king Seiko, given they are similarly priced?
@@ashwintadinada2579 I actually can't tetsify about that. I never saw the watch in person. This one certainly is sportier. But I don't know about the finishing etc.
Purchased the Black Dial and love it!
Hey Teddy, thanks for the content as always! Better value in your opinion - Mido Oceanstar 200 or Seiko Presage Sharp Edge GMT?
I just purchased the blue dial after watching this and other video reviews. I love its look. Kevin O'leary really liked it.
Beautiful watches. But in terms of best value for money, I would prefer the regular Sharp Edged version instead of the GMT. I actually consider the Mido Ocean Star GMT as a better GMT option as well
How would you compare this to a king Seiko, given they are similarly priced?
Another quality video by the godfather of watch UA-cam!
Haha thanks Alexander!
@@TeddyBaldassarre you're welcome!
Interesting that some consider the True GMT complication overrated! For me it's an absolute MUST with a GMT. The quality of life improvements are staggering--reverse date change (also not having to worry about the danger date change zone), instant adjustment for DST and time zone changes without timekeeping hiccups, etc.
I agree. I have a Certina Action GMT with a jumping hour hand and I love the function.
A jumping hour hand would be nice on just a plain 3 hander.
I follow all your videos I think. And it is the first time you mention the case hardening issue.
Being an engineer working with steel I know that stainless steel is quite soft and easy to scratch and it is actually something that will worry me a lot if i bought a 10k USD watch. For me a watch is also a tool that must be used on a daily basis.
Could you dig in to this issue one day explayning how the different high amd brands has solved this issue.
It is very important for me to have a watch that can stand daily handling and not having it in the box....
These are nice but I’m probably more likely to jump in if they dropped a prospex gmt.
I don’t like the sub dials and all the cute stuff they try with the presages
Thank you for this Review Teddy, I just purchased the limited white dial and will have it in my hands in a couple of days. I love your videos, I been binge watching them the last two weeks.
I recently saw the new Akebono limited edition in this line that will be released soon and absolutely fell in love with it!! Hope to be able to come up with enough $ to get ahold of one.
i just got the akebono and oh my god, its so beautiful. love it
The Sharp Edged GMT was my first watch over $1k. I have an 8.25” wrist and this is a great size. A bit smaller than I generally wear, but it really looks great on a larger wrist.
I have a small wrist and it looks great on mine as well. All could get away with sporting this GMT.
For those who pine after a Grand Seiko, but can't afford the price, the Presage collection is a nice approximation.
Anyone have an opinion on a strap for the 217? I'm open to almost any style - just not a fan of the bracelet
I wish they made a slightly smaller version of this.
Just snagged one! THANKS TB!
It surprises me that nobody ever talks about the Tissot Chemin des Tourelles GMT. It has the same movement as the Mido Ocean Star GMT, and you can pick one up new for well under $500. It's a dressier watch, but no matter. It's an ETA based jump hour GMT that's dirt cheap. I got mine new on sale for around $350. Bare in mind that Tissot and Mido are both under Swatch. I had to really dig to find that it is, in fact, the same movement. I guess it makes since that they wouldn't be keen to let the world know they are putting the same movement in a MUCH more affordable piece. I must say the quality and finishing on the Tissot is quite good too. If you travel for business, and will be wearing the watch with business casual, it's a great option. It could have been near perfect, but it's 42mm and wears more like 44mm. It won't work well on a small wrist. It just blows my mind that the watch world went crazy when the Ocean Star GMT was introduced because it was a true GMT neat a thousand bucks. Same movement for $300? Crickets!!
Managed to snatch a limited edition Ao Fuji SPB303. Really love the dark blue with white accents color combination!
excellent review love that you raise the price issue as part of your review.
My Mom got me this blue dial sharp edge for $1k here in the Philippines and I must say at this price point this is one of the best watches to get!
You got it for 1k??? Where
Great review Teddy! These GMTs are very nice but like you said Teddy Seiko is playing in a space with many other compelling options at this price point. It's baffling why they changed the beat rate thus reducing the power reserve to 45 hours. A large power reserve is always going to be a big selling point for me.
I like that you think the polar opposite to me.
I'd take a watch with 7hrs reserve and the smoothest sweep possible.
The opposite to that Robot manufactured Swatch Group 80Hour crap that's filling every half decent design and putting a bad taste to them and their heritage.
I was able to put the green dial SEIKO GMT on my wrist about a week ago. I really liked the attention to detail on the indexes. The brushed face and polished sides of the indexes made me want to keep looking at it! I wasn't in LOVE with the green dial but I liked what the watch was going for. I would really love to see the other colors in person as I wanted to see the black and knowing there is a white dial I'd be curious to know if those would look better on my wrist. I am not a guru of watches by any means but I have been thinking more about getting a stylish watch I can travel with and this ticked a few boxes for me in being beautiful to look at and easy to read.
I tried the green one on today it almost looks iridescent in person and color shifting to black depending on viewing angle
I don’t know, it is a stunning watch but I have a hard time trusting Seiko these days. I bought a Seiko from the prospex line and had QC issues. Yes there is an alignment issue, but mainly there is a noticeable spec of dust or damage on the actual dial. This can be seen with the naked eye with the right lighting. I first noticed it when I took a picture and went to wipe what I thought was dust on the crystal. The watch was about $650 CAD which for me is not insignificant. Seiko offered to remove the dust or fix whatever was damaged on the face, which involves shipping it across Canada and would take several months. Still undecided if I am going to do all that.
Point is this leaves two scenarios for $1000+ watches from Seiko in my opinion. either a watch at this price point has the same QC issue potential with assembly as mine. Or these watches have better QC procedures which then means they could have done better but don’t care about the QC of the $650 watch they sold me. I am not sure which is worse.
None of my other less expensive watches have issues like this, not my Orient Ray 2 for less than 1/3 the price, or my $50 Casio Duro. Even my older $100 Seiko SNK which is great. Don’t get me wrong I love this Seiko, it is a very cool watch and probably my favourite I have so far. I also love the variety and history with Seiko, but when I wear my Ray II with no noticeable QC issues, a more accurate movement, same crystal, same steel, is it worth paying 3 times the price for what? What part of that "prospex" price increase was premium?
I Just don’t trust Seiko now in the next purchase of my watch as I move up the price point. Which I intend to be around that $1500 point.
And I don't trust Orient. I have bought a Orient Triton diver, while normal use the crown coming out and I can't put it in again. This was made in Japan... I saw many damaged Triton for sale on ebay, so the quality isn't good... Never a Orient Triton again... But with the Bambino I had no issues...
How about a micro-brand GMT Venezianico with a blue dial with a Seiko move in 39 MM?
I absolutely love mine! I have the blue one… i wish there was more micro adjust on bracelet and thats it… love everything else. Cool to see your perspective on this model! The limited ones of these are really stunning as well.
I love this watch. The only problem I have with it is the date dial. It is covered most of the time either with the hour hand or the gmt hand. And it is hard to read.
I’ve had the blue version for a year now and I agree, it’s nearly useless functionally (esp given my eyesight). but taken as a whole, it does add to the overall visual character of the dial; an OK consolation for me :)
I have the Presage chrono with the red Arabic 12 position on the dial. Love that watch. It costs just a little bit more being in the $2k range, but it is an awesome watch. Despite being thick and having a 42mm case, it doesn’t look clunky on my smaller wrist.
How would you compare this to a king Seiko, given they are similarly priced?
@@ashwintadinada2579 I don’t have a King Seiko to do a direct comparison, but I can say that the quality of the watch is immediately apparent. I get compliments on it all the time both from watch people and from everyday people I run into. The only thing I would really change about this watch is the decoration and exhibition of the movement. It’s just a bit plain, and you don’t really get to see much past the rotor.
I have fallen in love with that white 140th anniversary seiko gmt. Prices are coming down and there is no shortage so j will wait a bit. I know it’s not a brand seiko but I could buy 4 of these and it’s still just as beautiful, if not more beautiful
Comparing Seiko's bracelet to Sinn's, and all you can mention is the surface hardening? In this price range, to me it seems that Seiko's clasp is far more elegant than the one found on Sinn's "H" link.
Got the blue version about six months ago - love it, love it!
Definitely an entry level front runner. GMT for around £1300 brand new, SEIKO completely diluting the big players with this one.
These are great. Can be a one-and-done watch.
Also, that blue is such a unique tone.
Nice watch but... the date display is not my thing.
I have this Mido GMT... it’s awesome for this price.
Nice review.
Is this the only 3 color variations? I've seen some with a ice blue dial wondering if they are fake.
No they are legit. They're limited edition models
Nice watch. I however am saving up for the Longines Zulu Time.
Likewise! Which colour are you going with?
On this Seiko, while the price is compelling, the dial is too busy and it looks really chunky. I tried the Zulu Time and while I thought my wrist wouldn't go with a 42mm, it sat really well. Green or black for me!
@@DS87 blue would be my first choice. The all black is nice too.
I am so happy someone finally mentioned the Longines Spirit Zulu Time--this is such a beauty and Longines, IMHO, nailed this GMT timepiece. You have great taste J Fox. I absolutely LOVE the green bezel w/black/gold dial......but that blue is stunning as well.....a little torn, but would give the nudge to the green bezel. Nevertheless, this is hands down one of the best for the price. Worth taking an extra year to save for this masterpiece. Thanks J Fox for being the first I have seen to mention the Longines Spirit Zulu.
@@amgolfer3591 it would be a nice step up from my Hamilton Murph that I wear all the time when I am not wearing a G shock.
@@jfox71 you know I own Hamilton but not the Murph. I have been eyeing the Hamilton Murph as my go to field watch. I have smaller wrists and I heard it wears on the large side (usually doesn't stop me but I like to keep no bigger than 42mm, perforable 39-41mm and dress down to 36-38mm), but I am assuming I can get away with it? Any info would be great my friend. Yes, getting the Spirit Zulu would be a definite upgrade, but you have a beauty in the Murph as well. We appear to have the same taste. Can't go wrong w/the classic G shock either.
my flightmaster has a sub dial you can set as a separate timezone. never understood why this isnt a preferable design to the typical GMT hand
The blue is my favorite
I got the anniversary white dial. I went online and saw the bracelet is $200. I sometimes immediately buy a second bracelet to beat up daily. Or I remove the bracelet altogether and swap on an elastic paratrooper band, a navy blue one in this case. The watch now feels paper light and looks factory.
I prefer the Seiko 5 GMT. Much better price and value.
The watch is absolutely beautiful and the movement is quite accurate. As a true GMT, not too much competition in the space. Obviously, the dial is the belle of the ball which differentiates it from the competition. Why wouldn’t they put a screw down crown on this one? normally, one would expect to swim or sit in the hot tub with 100 m of water resistance. However, I simply would never bring a watch without a screw down crown into the water. If the watch had a screw down crown, it would almost be the perfect one watch collection.
Bought one of these in green a few weeks ago and love it.
I'd be all over this, but the dial is a bit too busy for my tastes
The dials on the Seikos are beautiful (particularly the blue), but I'm not crazy about the mismatched almost teal color of the outer ring. The bracelet seems like an add-on. It doesn't seem to flow well. And I'm not particularly crazy about the numbers on the outer ring in general. Makes it a little busy, plus detracts from the actual watch face. Also for this price I'd like to see a date.
And I LOVE the look of the Mido Ocean Star GMT (blue), but at 44mm the size is a bit large.
But isn’t the small subdial, a date indicator🤔😏
@@wonderwatch2239 yep it is but I'd prefer a window date.
the bezel ring is much closer to the dial color in person, i have to shine a light right up to the bezel to even tell its a different color than the dial
This watch is lovely. However one thing reivewes fail to mention is how top heavy it is. It is a very unbalanced watch when it comes to weight. And why I chose to sell mine in the end.
Are there any True GMT options under 40mm? Midsized for small to medium sized wrists. My wrist is 6.5" and I think with these options I'm oversized. Mido, Certina and Seiko options are all over 42mm and up unfortunately. Thanks for a great review video!
Look for the micro brand Venezianico 39 MM with a Seiko movement
I am going to give a chance to this opportunity Seiko offers,with their true GMT !
Anyone know where I can buy this watch? Been searching everywhere and no reputable seller pops up. Thanks for the help.
Seiko is by far the best bang for the buck.
bought one of these as my first watch on chrono24 a couple months ago for $750, couldn't pass up such a beautiful dial for 50% off retail
The dial is nice, but as you pointed out, at that price it’s a small step up to Swiss. I’m not an aviator or war planner, so Greenwich Mean Time at a glance has no value to me. I travel internationally and track time in Asia and Europe, so a 3-time zone GMT watch where the GMT hand moves with the hour hand is way easier for me to set. I looked a lot and found an Oris Aquis GMT date with a rotating 24 hour bezel. It also has 300m water resistance and a screw down crown. Solid tool watch and my daily driver when I’m traveling. Also got it on sale for $1700,
I feel like I'm the only person who actually LIKES the date sub-dial. I mean, how many times a day do you need to actually look at the date on your wrist anyway? Once and done, surely?
Otherwise, I like the way it balances the dial overall.
I appreciate that its a GMT for not so much money, but i really cant justify spending 1500 for a watch finished like this… Tissot is still the winner in my opinion for the entry level market. Great video none the less, as always very informative.
Coming from someone who's handled Tissots in this range, Seiko is finished WAY better. Seiko's finishing is what consistently puts them above the other entry level market competition for me.
@@sylinmino well i disagree… 🤷🏽
@@darrenaquilina1403 I mean more power to you. But I've handled a ton of Seikos in this realm and while the bracelet and movement finishing could use a lot of work, the case finishing in this range rivals (in my experience) the likes of Longines and Oris and Tudor. Which sounds hyperbolic but this is from side-by-side comparison.
The QC is still garbage though.
No screw down crown, felt cheap to me when I handled one yesterday. Pretty though.
I found this video because I have been looking at a lot of watches. Some much more expensive and then this one caught my eye. I like that is a gmt that doesn’t have a bulky outer dial. It seems sleek. The dual itself is beautiful I have given thought to jumping up to a grand seiko but it’s 4 times as much. And j don’t see the value. This js a great everyday watch.
I really like the look of these,the bracelet isn't a problem for me,42.2mm is big though......
i ordered the green version of it today. It is definately a eloquent of true beauty.
I own the blue version and I love it! What a beautiful dial!
Really balanced critique - thanks. I dont think Seiko's 'practices' as you put it 🙂 work in any price range any more. I know I sound like a stuck record, but in 2022 you not only have to consider the micros, but the the Chinese watch brands showing what can be achieved re case and bracelet for less than $300. I guess the goal here though was an auto jumping hour hand gmt at less than $1.5k - a niche where there are few options. For me personally, the best bit of the video was the Mido, which I haven't seen in black/orange before - stunning watch. Take care.
Unsure of the date dial. I think a window would have been cleaner. Just an opinion. Overall a nice offering for the price.
Mentioning accuracy is always welcome!
Like the watch.
Recently viewed a Seiko SBDC159 and that too has a very nice dial.
If a watch is going to have a date complication I’d rather have the placement between the 4-5 position.
Or no date at all.
I got the watch and for the most part really like it. I agree the date complication is hard to read and I need to know the date often for my job in QC. It's nearly impossible to read at a glance and also hard to set. However, one of the most crazy things are that I absolutely cannot find extension links. Seiko and seiko dealers have told me I can't get them. How could this be? It's not the greatest bracelet but I really don't want to just walk away from it either. I wonder if anybody here can help me.?
The fact of the matter is, this is the least expensive new true gmt+high beat watch available in the market today.There is zero competition for this combination. Mido is not high beat.Everyone likes smoother sweep all said and done. The other highbeats go over 3k i believe.
So seiko can get away with the thickness, bigger case size,ugly date wheel and above average bracelet quality. I mean there literally is no alternative at this price point. Thank god they didnt price it at 2.5/3k like their usual overpricing policy. Why don't they give us just the high beat movement of this without gmt(or date) at sub 1000dollar range i wonder.
What does "high beat" mean?
'High or mid' beat of 28000vph. Gives a smoother second hand sweep when compared to normal nh35 or 4r35/6r movements that have a 21600vph sweep.
The blue dial is BEAUTIFUL
My final comment on this would be that there is a big hole in the market between £2000 and £3500 (pounds euros or dollars) going forward things are going to be tight for people and this price range is very aspirational.
I really like the GMT they made with the black and blue bezel. Can’t remember which model it was
brought the white limited version. best value
Try to find the sharp edged SPB303J1 limited edition.
The only ones i could find are in the US.
And guess what ? They are at 2500$ right now.
Love the look! Might need to give a serious look!
Killer video. I have the white dial 140 yr Anniversary edition.
An eye catching gem!!!
I am not aware of above 1500 dollars seikos that are almost 95% of the cheaper offerings, once you go 3000 and up you get into marinemaster then the LX line which is very identical to seikos. Overall seiko delivers a lot of value at that price point.
Can’t wait for your review of the new SKX GMT!
Do the indices and dial line up?? If they do, how do you know it is REALLY a Seiko?
I actually bought the white dial anniversary version recently and the indices are bezel is slightly off center. Not horrible but slightly annoying