THIS is Why You Have ZERO GOLD Each Week, and How to Change It! (Lost Ark)

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  • @Jukwol
    @Jukwol 6 місяців тому +31

    If they pushed more systems into sliver instead of gold, people would actually enjoy doing Elixirs and Trans. Trans is legitimately a fun system, but when you attach destroying your weekly gold to it and you feel like you have to use the calc, it turns into a unfun system that players don't like.

    • @itsDubla
      @itsDubla  6 місяців тому +3

      Very good point dude. I really do enjoy the trans. system as well, it’s a pretty fun mini game. Good idea!

    • @RedWill42
      @RedWill42 6 місяців тому +2

      Very much agreed, I would enjoy Transcendence if it didn't come with a cost of failure, however since it does I more feel like I am just the middle man between the game and the calculator. It's too costly to have fun with these systems (elixirs, rocks, quality all included) because every fail is gold you could have invested elsewhere.
      These are goofy mobile games embedded into the middle of LA, they don't really even make sense to exist in the first place, but to tie your entire weekly earnings into succeeding them is terrible, it drains any sort of fun out of them and makes me only interact with these systems when forced by progression, not enjoyment.

    • @MostWantedWannaBE
      @MostWantedWannaBE 6 місяців тому +2

      honestly one of the biggest problems with these systems is the time they take to interact with
      honing and quality just deletes your gold instantly
      transcendence and elixirs take hour long sessions at a time

    • @ryanc9876
      @ryanc9876 6 місяців тому +1

      There isn't really any significant sinks for silver aside from rerolling gems as well. Honing has a pretty high silver cost but how many legit players are being held back by silver instead of gold? All these gold sinks also makes me worried about solo raids and their possible gold or not gold coming in. Bots would easily abuse, and if they got rid of them then how are new players going to hone, level their set, make new armor pieces, or whatever else costs gold that helps them progress BEFORE then. The systems need to change.

    • @Joe-fb9ns
      @Joe-fb9ns 6 місяців тому

      @@MostWantedWannaBE i disagree about honing and quality lately if ur smart about it with these expresses u need spend barely any gold 1580 up to 1600 same for quality u only need blue to purple gold is a luxury and the improvement u get out of it from purple is very small this exspress and last one is most juiced its ever been now i cant speak for transcendence i cant use it yet but elixers i agree its pain in ass to do but unfortunately it is what it is

  • @jimbobborg22
    @jimbobborg22 6 місяців тому +7

    This dovetails nicely with Cauttyh's recent video on RMT cheaters. I've been beating the drums about not needing gold sinks in our version of LOA. We didn't have over a year of Brel being the latest content, we had a few months before Kayangel and Akkan coming out. If they're serious about keeping players on, they need to make it easier for us to progress. Otherwise, we'll go from 35k players to 3.5k players.

  • @khalkitty7277
    @khalkitty7277 6 місяців тому +6

    I've been playing with someone else as a duo for 5 months or so now. When we started I had two characters at a higher ilvl than her (like, I had a full 1580/1560 roster and she had about the same but she had two 1520 characters instead of being full 1560 on her alts (which was a huge difference back then)). Rencently she has been lucky on honing, and I pittied my arcana's weapon from +13 to +18. Now she has her main 1625, an alt 1612 with +19 weapon, 3 others 1600 and one 1585 (and she is leveling a new character on the side which is 1540 already). Meanwhile, my main is 1617, I have 4 alts 1600 and one last 1585. And she has half my play time on steam. :)
    I have been quite unlucky on this game since Argos got released (I don't mind, I got used to it), but playing with someone lucky really made me realize how the experience on the game can vary from one person to an other. And it can get quite frustrating especially with more rng stuffs getting added into the game again and again.
    At the end of the day I don't care that much, I'm playing the game because I like it, but it really feels like it is disrespecting me on a daily basis :D

    • @itsDubla
      @itsDubla  6 місяців тому

      Lol yeah. I'll be honest, even when one of my characters is getting unlucky, I feel like they are being mean to me and I play them less xDDD

  • @chriswe3151
    @chriswe3151 6 місяців тому +2

    Like you said early in the video the problem with almost every system in Lost Ark is, that the range between lucky and unlucky is just too damn wide.

  • @juanpablogarciazermeno3770
    @juanpablogarciazermeno3770 6 місяців тому +2

    For honing they just have like 2 options, they either nerf the costs (mats and gold) or they buff the artisan gain. Another thing that could help is increasing the drops of the additional honing mats like solars and adding compound books to the event or other sources to get them because they really help a lot.
    For elixirs one idea i had was making the only rng part getting the bonuses (like set bonus and atk power ie) but you can level up that elixir with other materials or currency rather than doing an rng minigame wich most of the times is just a waste of gold
    Transcendence i feel like they need to nerf the cost as you said, but also make a propper guide, like the only guide was the npc quest talk which most likely everyone alt+g's, and even if you didn't, it doesn't say pretty much anything tbh hahaha. Like in elixirs we had 10 to test out how the system worked. But with transcendence you basically had to spend like 5k gold on first attempt just to see how it works. I've been using the calculator just so i don't waste my gold, and after 10 attempts I'm just starting to understand how the thing works lmao.

  • @ryanc9876
    @ryanc9876 6 місяців тому +1

    Working my way to 1610 to 1620, my first armor piece pities and it's like "well, that's at least 2-3 weeks worth of gold" not even including the bound materials I've saved up from events that I don't count monetarily, but should. With the percentages so low, and how easy it is to pity, the lucky vs unlucky is very much weighted towards unlucky too. I love the double artisan event buffs, anything to make the overall cost variance slim down. I hope they realize this sooner rather than later. Fun game, unfun systems.

    • @itsDubla
      @itsDubla  6 місяців тому +1

      Yup... and honestly I'd be SUPER happy if they just changed akkan honing gear to resemble advanced honing.. Avg. would be slightly cheaper but it's much more rewarding to feel and see your gear constantly going higher and higher instead of what it is now.

  • @MisoxShiru
    @MisoxShiru 6 місяців тому +7

    welcome back king

    • @itsDubla
      @itsDubla  6 місяців тому +1

      My brother... it's good to be back. Maybe one day I'll be up late enough to see your beautiful face in action on Twitch again. It's been too long :*)

  • @ggbk8584
    @ggbk8584 6 місяців тому +1

    i'm broke cuz there's no way to play Ivory HM without a static so i'm forced to buy leg fragments every week for 40 set and fail of them. it costs way too much to upgrade our characters compared to what we gain from raids. it's a critical core issue that SG doesn't give a damn about.

  • @LoaWorn
    @LoaWorn 6 місяців тому +1

    The events dont give much either which is crazy ... like what is 100 obliteration stones ...

  • @RedWill42
    @RedWill42 6 місяців тому

    We've reached the point in the game where we are caught up to where KR has said you need to run 1 character and everything else is funnel fodder. It's not a very fun way to play, but it is what it is. Up until now you could run a large roster, all at end game, and it didn't feel like a miserable experience to actually be playing the game.
    The only thing SG know how to code is RNG and it's important to remember SG does not care about your personal satisfaction, it's a Free to download zero barrier to entry game, the only thing that actually matters is that every person who downloads the game spends on something before they ultimately quit.
    We are also a very low regional ccu, at times we were dipping as low as 15k ccu and that includes NA/EU/SA. So the whales of our client will whale, everyone else really isn't even an afterthought for SG at this point.
    These systems need a revamp, but it's more likely all that will happen is some of the kiss curse options of each system will be tempered some, outside of that it likely will not be cheaper, it likely will not be faster and it will not be any more fun, because all of those options could potentially be a profit loss to SG.
    I respect that sounds like I am coming off at bitter, but it isn't that, it's just the reality of the game we play. We're here to be milked until we quit, and SG has long ago decided the best way to do that milking is through these systems, not cosmetics or side purchases. They make the game a miserable experience to grind, they make it extremely expensive to P2W and then they hit you with FOMO when you complain. It's honestly a very clever monetization tactic.

    • @Ka_Bali_Pena
      @Ka_Bali_Pena 2 місяці тому

      Ppl just waiting for T&L to drop, honestly

  • @wiljosabre
    @wiljosabre 6 місяців тому +5

    Definitely the gold cost of progression systems vs. (In-game) gold acquisition methods are way disproportinated and the KR gold sinks just hitting our version without proper balance is just wrong.
    I feel AGS keeps slacking once more as publisher not adapting the game systems and even the in game shop for our current situation.
    I played since launch until Brel release and accumulated 2-2.5k hours, had 6 main characters in the main roster and 1 main in other roster with some lopang alts on each and it costed me my desire to play and many grind hours, but it was possible to run the lastest raid on release.
    For instance, I was 1500 on my main Glaivier when Brel N released and had 5 characters 1475. I returned around a week ago and even with the super mokoko express I can feel the disparity of reality between then and now, to hone anything outside of the event and beyond 1540 is scary lol, takes more time that one would guess and that not even considering the extra gold costs of elixirs and transcendence.
    I hope Both SG and AGS give us some good QoL and system improvements in the follow months so We can enjoy all the processes and stages of the game more fully and less punishing. Thanks for your content!

    • @itsDubla
      @itsDubla  6 місяців тому +1

      This is one of the most well constructed comments I might have ever seen on my channel haha. I highly agree with you though brother. And I'm hoping these changes come sooner than later, because we are in DEEP need of them in our version of the game.

  • @Despond
    @Despond 6 місяців тому

    The variance with weapon honing still hasn't changed - especially if using bound mats like D stones. You only have to pity a few times and you're like 1-2 months behind. If you get lucky, then you save SO much time and gold. Then they decided to keep adding these chasm RNG swings with non honing systems lol. I am not touching any new system until they change it, luckily I am not in a cutting edge prog group.

  • @sunteraze
    @sunteraze 6 місяців тому +2

    Fork the gold, i am broke on Silvers! 90k!

  • @Fm_gray
    @Fm_gray 6 місяців тому +1

    man i just dropped 100k on card packs and didnt get a legendary card pack from mari's shop im at 23 on LOS with 6 selectors and cant get into ivory tower lobbies even though im 1610

  • @adriansolomon4580
    @adriansolomon4580 6 місяців тому +2

    Couldnt find anything you said id disagree with, but I spend all mine on buses, the raids are too hard for my old brain :)

    • @Jukwol
      @Jukwol 6 місяців тому

      Genuinely curious. If you choose to get bussed, what keeps you playing the game? Do you just like dailies?

    • @anarcan2895
      @anarcan2895 6 місяців тому

      Feel your pain @adriansolomon4580 ... the struggle is real 😂

    • @MrLittleFinger
      @MrLittleFinger 6 місяців тому +2

      ​@@Jukwolpeople enjoy diffrent things in lost ark. Sometimes I enjoy doing chaos dungeons sometimes stronghold stuff and talking to friends in stronghold . Raids arent fun for me . They are fun for afew month only on main . So sometimes Im one of those bus buyers on my alts.

    • @s.a4034
      @s.a4034 6 місяців тому +1

      ​@@Jukwolmy gf only play Barbie dress up with lost ark , not even toch raids lol

  • @MrLittleFinger
    @MrLittleFinger 6 місяців тому +2

    My question is whats wrong with having 0 gold??

    • @itsDubla
      @itsDubla  6 місяців тому

      Fair enough :) some people might enjoy that. I didn’t think about it.

    • @rodalizadeh7432
      @rodalizadeh7432 6 місяців тому

      A lot of the time is the feeling of not progressing (at least in my case) I’ll hone Akkan gear and get a good chunk of taps just to see this tiny text say “artisan energy x%” go up .05% each tap. Like hell give me a visual bar or soemthing. I get the end of the week with 3 k gold and actually nothing to show for it :( it hurts. It’s not every week but as I progress the ratio of weeks like this to good prog weeks is getting worst

  • @KareemAhmedart
    @KareemAhmedart 6 місяців тому +1

    Man i'm using all my 5 alts to get gold to push my main from 1616 to 1620 for 3 weeks and still can't make it :(( .. i'm really thinking to take a break from this game.. very disappointing

  • @JeyJ24
    @JeyJ24 6 місяців тому

    I'm fairly certain the systems sucks in KR too. We shouldn't use the arguement that KR had longer time to save up when KR only got gold buffs 3 months before thaemine and we had fate embers for way longer.
    It only weakens our stance. We need to fight because the progression is designed expensively on purpose. It's bad for EVERYONE.

    • @itsDubla
      @itsDubla  6 місяців тому

      Yeah the systems suck for both regions. IDK how or why KR hasn't complained about this previously.. pretty wild to me.

  • @raddadxo677
    @raddadxo677 6 місяців тому

    I have always been spending most of my gold as I make it, unless I need to gear a character or something expensive, it always goes out as it comes in. Transcendence is surprisingly expensive, and I have not rolled many of my legendary elixers, which costs too much per. Luckily, most of my characters are parked for the foreseeable future. Even some who I would like to get to 1600 because elixers might make them "feel better" it's just not feasible. My poor 1560 with 4 million shards probably won't ever make 1580 or 1500s with millions won't get higher unless they make no raw gold to 1540 or 1580. Which might be the play soon because akkan is like a "starting point" now.
    Oh also even if they just spwd up animations or removed them from elixers thst would maoe a huge difference. Taking an hour to roll like 4 elixers and brick them all sucks... maybe that over exaggerated and its like 7 or 8 in an hour buat still thsts time i would lile to raid any maybe finish all 18 again in a week?

    • @itsDubla
      @itsDubla  6 місяців тому +1

      This is true dude, I didn't even speak about the length of time is takes to do elixers... it's actually TIME AND gold sink hahaha.
      Looking forward to them making it easier to hone to 1580 as well, especially now with clown gold nerfed, I don't see how it would take much longer for them to make it cheaper.

  • @anonymeralkoholiker8654
    @anonymeralkoholiker8654 6 місяців тому

    hey bro, my inner self died when you resetted the transcendence board at 5:50.. if you get blessing with 1 attemd for 2 flowers left, you can still get a 3 flower rating because of the blessing tile. i had this case myself

    • @itsDubla
      @itsDubla  6 місяців тому

      I've had a few people tell me this! That's pretty crazy. From now on, when I'm one away and I can definitely get it with one extra turn, I'll try for the 10% blessing tile :)

    • @anonymeralkoholiker8654
      @anonymeralkoholiker8654 6 місяців тому

      @@itsDubla i had it more then 3 times now, really should hope for the lucky blessing :D

  • @HeiLong24
    @HeiLong24 6 місяців тому

    I've basically quit after experiencing transcendence. being punished from too many angles for just trying to play the game at this point

  • @iSwAGii
    @iSwAGii 6 місяців тому

    100% agree they need to nerf progressions systems more. i got my main to 1610 using the events and i'm probably not gonna try to hone it anymore for a long time. just thinking about how much gold i need to make to get to 1630 is insane and turns me away from it. feelssobadman. Maybe making some of the systems cost silver instead of gold? or just say fuck it and make the entire honing system like the advanced honing where you're guaranteed to progress and not just lose all the resources you're making (highly unlikely i know lol).
    Sidenote: I'm one of those delusional players that wants to have 3+ mains eventually and hearing you say that having 6 mains is not possible broke my heart lmaoo

  • @Random4Fun
    @Random4Fun 6 місяців тому

    How do you transfer gold from one region to another ?

    • @itsDubla
      @itsDubla  6 місяців тому

      You can't. Each Region has it's own auction house

  • @lotadtime
    @lotadtime 6 місяців тому +2

    I MIGHT HAVE TO GO TO 3RD PARTY SERVICES FOR GOLD DOOBLA HALP ME BLANKIES

    • @itsDubla
      @itsDubla  6 місяців тому

      Stay strong brother.. hold your blankies tight!

  • @kimlindner8596
    @kimlindner8596 6 місяців тому

    I saw you stopping your transcendence because you had one turn left and it looked like it was impossible to finish the board but you should still keep going if you think you can finish with an extra turn because if you get a blessing on the next turn and you manage to finish it you still get 3 leafs

    • @itsDubla
      @itsDubla  6 місяців тому

      When I stopped I could've achieved 3 leafs with 1 turn left. If I used that turn, that means I can only achieve 2 leafs if I finish it on the next turn. Me getting a blessing on the next turn is no diff because I would've only been able to achieve 2 leafs.

    • @kimlindner8596
      @kimlindner8596 6 місяців тому

      @@itsDubla no i was literally in the same situation multiple times and even if it says you achieve 2 leafs if you have a blessing on the field and you finish you will get 3 leaves trust me

    • @kimlindner8596
      @kimlindner8596 6 місяців тому

      @@itsDubla clips.twitch.tv/YummySweetLegFrankerZ-CHQZ_zbH8Mss96ob here is an example

  • @wtbdarkness2900
    @wtbdarkness2900 6 місяців тому +1

    I just cried when u took the L on 5:55 :(

    • @itsDubla
      @itsDubla  6 місяців тому

      Yeah me too bro. Me too hahaha

  • @Joe-fb9ns
    @Joe-fb9ns 6 місяців тому

    i agree but unfortunately for longest time this games been desighned around whales its crazy how many ppl ive seen with +25 weapons

    • @ryanc9876
      @ryanc9876 6 місяців тому

      Oh those aren't whales, those are mostly cheaters. Whales are going extinct in this game.

  • @hiroshima4762
    @hiroshima4762 6 місяців тому

    Personally, I am almost 4 million gold behind KR at the current stage of the game...

  • @dragankaradzic-dx2gt
    @dragankaradzic-dx2gt 6 місяців тому

    Play 24/7 or buy gold. Message is clear

  • @jamzbraz
    @jamzbraz 6 місяців тому

    "Honing used to feel fun" uh when?

    • @itsDubla
      @itsDubla  6 місяців тому

      Maybe it's just me... *crying inside* xD

  • @salzberg9460
    @salzberg9460 6 місяців тому

    I still have 35 set on my elixirs and ive been running 1620 voldis for 2 Months now and never got anything better than a 5 3 or 4 4 while spending 50k a week and it feels really shit, because party finder while only having 35 set is shit af aswell

  • @heroblake6572
    @heroblake6572 6 місяців тому

    Do you like it? No I don’t like it one bit. I’ve been hard stuck at 39 nodes for weeks now…..

    • @itsDubla
      @itsDubla  6 місяців тому

      OH nooo!!! Bro that is tragic :(

  • @Ka_Bali_Pena
    @Ka_Bali_Pena 2 місяці тому

    Just wanted to continue the lore... having minimum level to reach new city, forcing you to have gold to produce certain fusion materials to 10 -15% success rate to lvl up... and can't even sell in the market/auction house because the materials that ppl usually buy, the gold deposit fee is higher than what I have atm.
    Nerfed ways to win gold... and rn I think I can only earn it partying up with randoms and do bad designed raids, with wipe systems that penalizes everyone bcause of a single player mistake. Stupid mechanics altogether.
    Wanted to continue the story, but at this point, I think I'll just uninstall it and watch some youtube video about it. It's a shame, it had potencial.
    Wipe mechanics is just a lazy way to add "difficulty" to something. 0 creativity

  • @dopamemexd
    @dopamemexd 6 місяців тому

    game is unbalanced in terms of vertical progression costs and also in terms of class balance. a lot of my friends are quitting because of this

    • @itsDubla
      @itsDubla  6 місяців тому

      I fully agree brother. It's super de-motivating to play, and just flat out doesn't feel fun or good to use these systems, especially when they are forced.

  • @Joske0000
    @Joske0000 6 місяців тому

    Worse part of all these is even if you play you have lucky you hit 1620+ got some transendance luck and you go to you voldis hard and then puff support services 8k per slot. There ia litteraly no real pug supports above 1620. All those creatures are in static and some maybe 6-7 are pugging theamine g3 normal hahaha. Uh i camt wait for that 16men raid it will be funn even for statics. Everything will fall apart in first place if they don't find solution for supports. There basicly no point for them to push abowe 1620 now. Noone wants to main or hone supp.

  • @georgiepcr4305
    @georgiepcr4305 6 місяців тому

    dead game with the system that make player more struggle

  • @LostArkLover
    @LostArkLover 6 місяців тому

    The problem is, these are the very people who pass feedback to AGS in discord and look at the game still to this day. XD, unsubbed

    • @itsDubla
      @itsDubla  6 місяців тому

      With the xD at the end, I'm not sure if you're serious or not.
      If you ARE serious. I hope you watched the whole video, especially the part where I say these things need a massive change.
      If you ARE NOT serious... I hope you have a good day :)

  • @dracon436
    @dracon436 6 місяців тому

    lost ark can remove gold easy fix

  • @MostWantedWannaBE
    @MostWantedWannaBE 6 місяців тому

    if you are just getting into these systems
    you are quite a bit sad because you don't have the backbone of your entire roster to fund them
    transcendence at least pre 1630 is very cheap
    but if you gotta also gun down for 40set? oof
    when to hone? when to get gems? when to get purple quality?
    when to do your alts?
    it's very bad

    • @Despond
      @Despond 6 місяців тому

      Don't touch the trans and elixir until reworks. It's BS gold costs. Rather get better gems, more GS.

  • @AkenoSenpai1
    @AkenoSenpai1 6 місяців тому +1

    I personally just barely started learning Akkan (while playing since release with a 3 day early acces) because i have been playing very much on my own pace 0 fomo and honestly even i dont have gold, can't wait to get those systems on top.

    • @itsDubla
      @itsDubla  6 місяців тому

      Hey man, I really love that you commented on this and are an example of just enjoying the game at your own pace. Keep that up, and keep having fun with the game :) That's the way it should be done! Honestly, it sounds like by the time you will have to start utilizing transcendence and elixers, they might be changed by then :)

    • @AkenoSenpai1
      @AkenoSenpai1 6 місяців тому

      @@itsDubla Well its definietly a nice way to not burn your self out, but gatekeep friendly? Not so much ^^.