Severance Theories #19 | Devon Scout-Hale
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- Опубліковано 8 лип 2024
- It's Devon's turn under the microscope. Time to examine this divisive character and see if there are any facts behind the theories related to this character.
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On first glance, I get that the two are an odd pair, but it makes sense to me in that Ricken genuinely loves her. He's kind, honest and easy to predict in terms of temperament. Given the alluded "raised by an alcoholic" backstory of Mark and Devan, it would make sense she'd be drawn to someone as even keeled as Ricken, despite how pompous and extra he can be. Can't wait to get some more on her in season 2 as I think her character is intriguing, I can see why she spawns lots of theories! Great vid as always.
I agree. In a show that features so much cynicism, Ricken, though goofy, is earnest, sincere and kind. He’s a breath of fresh air. He seems to be the least wounded among everyone, and I like that.
@@WrinkleRelease I think we're in for a terrifying reveal about Ricken. My theory is that the one we know is his 'innie' & his true personality, is hella dark & conniving.
I agree! He is caring, he listens to her, he communicates a lot, he obviously loves her. And Devon seems to appreciate that. He is a good husband.
My wife and I are Ricken and Devon. I agree not far fetched at all.
Now it's time for the Eleanor Hale breakdown! Is she working for Lumon? A secret Eagan? Perhaps Cobel is grooming her to run the severed floor?
[puts on tinfoil hat] Eleanor is definitely an Eagan- Cobel is not to be trusted around that baby.
My theory is that Devon is pretty much as she seems. Every show like this needs a grounded character to make the show more relatable to the audience, and her oddball choice of husband aside, Devon is more of the audience insert than even Mark or Helly.
I could be totally wrong, but I just don't get any suspicious vibes here. We'll see!
I agree with you. I think she's a pretty normal audience insert, the one who's not on the merry-go-round, and she'll be really important in season 2 as an anchor or lifeline for people to see how crazy their world has become.
I think her statement about, who have you been talking to... I read that differently as someone who's had a whole family immersed in various kinds of mental illness. Many illnesses make you more susceptible to suggestion and paranoia. It could be that she sees this conspiracy he's talking about as a turn for the worse and wants to know who to give stink eye to, who's telling Mark stories. Mark's outie absolutely has mental illness going on.
Exactly along the lines of what I was thinking. I'd be pissed if they make her character a whole plot twist secret insider kind of thing because these kinds of shows really need at least one character who's grounded, otherwise its too all over the place. It makes me think of Captain Lazerhawk, now, I love that show, but (not to be too vague-spoilers) but the constant twists and backstabs leaves you disoriented by the end, and while that works for some shows, I think its best when there's some calm stable things, like Nautilus said Constants, which is also a word that came to my mind (tho I haven't seen Inception in years lol so I didn't think of it as a reference) and Severance I think would lose the tightrope balance on those like, silent moments of realism vibes that it has if they went with too many 'out there' twists like that. Specially that would feel so the opposite of how things have been in a way that doesn't even feel led up to or anything. That's also why I (this one's more preference) don't want them to do another "is an Eagan" twist, when once was perfect with Helly. Tho, I think Ricken being secretly Severed unbeknownst to even himself could work as a cool idea.
With this show there's so many GOOD ideas that could fit and lead to something interesting, but its such a delicate thing cause there's also stuff that could throw it way off, and idk how to explain which ones feel different and why (and I'm sure different people have different opinions/preferences anyway too) but idk yeah. I'm just so excited and nervous if they're gonna take what they're planning out in a good and believable direction.
I think the Lumon putting weird sh*t in the water and soaps and just about everything could make sense, I never noticed the detail about the filtered water. Plus they're definitely doing *something* what with the droplet logo and the reservoir. So I think that's a great thought to keep on the backburner. It could also help explain what is up with the weird townsfolk in case none of them are Severed yet it still needs to be explained why they're so extra weird.
Devon also seemed shocked by the behavior of the Angelo Arteta's wife who had been severed so that she wouldn't remember childbirth. Gabriela is absolutely cold towards Devon when they meet in the park after giving birth. If Devon were some Lumon insider, the politician's wife's behavior would not be surprising at. all. And given the danger to her baby on the part of Ms. Cobel, I bet that is a real spur for Devon to become something of a detective.
As for Ricken, I think Devon has ignored his strangeness and his strange friends in the interest of having a happy home life. In Season 2, I guess she will look at everything around her with suspicion.
Bruhhh we go the teaser for Season 2 today 🥳🥳
Finally!!
"Would your bestie make you some PJs if you were spending the night?"
No, I suppose not. Need to raise the bar here. Besties are slackin!
😂😂
Hahahahaha!
NAUTILUS WAKE UP THIS IS NOT A DRILL
i have a feeling he's working on something as we speak 😁
Devon has felt like part of some underground anti-Lumon crowd operating within the town, which is what I thought she was getting at when she asked Mark who he was talking to. I'm wondering if Gemma was also in on that group and infiltrated the company; Lumon found out so that's how she ended up permanent innie mind wiped.
Yeah I got that vibe too. That she is a kind of agent, but for the good guys rather than for Lumon :)
I enjoy this theory more than others. You may deduct 10 points.
Interesting take as always bro!
One point i would like to add regarding Devon is the off-beat ending dialogue between her and Innie-Mark in the season finale. The way that Devon responds to her first meeting with an Innie, was always kind of weird to me. She’s not shocked or surprised to hear about their horrible situation - the imprisonment, the torture - and it seems like she’s pretty much “in the know” of something, like she knew one day Innie-Mark will show himself to her.
You can say it’s because she and Ricken are not very anti-severance -
But I think the more interesting thought is that both Ricken and Devon are a part of some kind of a anti-Luman group, and they both know more then they let Mark see.
Are they really “good” just because they’re “anti-Lyman”? We’ll have to wait and see…
I feel like Innie Mark impressed upon her that their time was extremely limited and she chose to be efficient with that time, at least until her child's life is threatened
I’m more convinced this has happened before, so this isn’t her first rodeo with innie Mark!
Season 2 announced for January 17th!!
There might be a trailer/ release date tomorrow, there was a video posted today of the red elevator light blinking morse code 'tomorrow'
EDIT: trailer dropped and release date 17th Jan 2025 LETSGO
😳😮😯😵🙏🙏🙏😹
Thanks for the heads up. I'll be looking for it.
C'Mon already 😂. Im actually just seeing severance now and can't wait for season 2. I couldn't imagine having watched way back in 22.
Oh my God! Im so happy to see a new vid here! Im having a blast with your content and I feel you’re always on point. I know it’s a writer’s job to move things and keep surprises but I really feel you are headed in the right path. Thank you for your hard work
For what it's worth, Severance was written by writers living in Los Angeles, where everyone drinks filtered water.
Oh god yeah, the tap water tastes disgusting. I think it depends on the person tho, if you can tolerate the taste (very metallic and gross). Do we see anyone else in Severance on the outside drink with a filter though?
ohhh we will see you soon for that trailer breakdown my friend 😂😂
The Devon episode! Wheres my tinfoil?
God thank you for continuing to make these. I just watched Severance last month and am dying for as much of this stuff as I can get! 🎉
I was 100% unprepared for the Tina Belcher gif & it killed me 😆
I love you videos. I can’t wait for Severance and Silo to come back. I just know your numbers will skyrocket, your content is so good. Thanks for all you do!
This is why I love this channel.
Thanks a lot for all your theories, tinfoil sits tight! One more theory to add to the pile, haven't heard this point being covered in the videos: to me the episode with Milchek awakening Dylan on the outside seems very off. He goes through too much of a risk to retrieve a card that: 1. we have seen is mass-produced by O&D
2. Doesn't contain any or enough information for the outie to be alarmed if he finds it
So knowing how skilled Milchek is I doubt he couldn't deal with hiding Dylan's son from him for 5 minutes. Or he could have awakened him somewhere else. This leads me to thinking that Milchek wanted for Dylan to see his son and check his reaction. Dylan was never questioning his existence at Lumen, same as Irving, but they both have been shown a person to love that made them turn on lumon. I think Irving meeting Burt was orchestrated by Lumon, same as Dylan meeting his son - so each character now has a reason to rebel. I'm thinking that MDR was the only people that are actually closely watched by Lumon to see if they can bypass the loyalty and start questioning their existence (potentially by one of the emotions being triggered?). So the whole experiment is about putting them into situations and seeing how they would respond and if they would rebel against the company once they have experienced emotions. Otherwise Milchek acting so carelessly for such a small thing makes no sense.
Perfect timing! I was just binging your theory videos over the last couple of days! Can't wait for the new season! Thanks!
Good installment! I like the filtered water idea and wouldn't have thought of it! :) I've probably mentioned before, the scene where Mark is watching tv and Natalie is sparring with a tv news anchor? The anchor brings up a person who was allegedly impregnated while working on the Severed floor. It would be nuts if that were somehow Devon, right? Maybe she's just going to meet the impregnated person on a playdate somewhere? Just thoughts. Looking forward to January. Thanks for being here!
I would think a good spy agency compartmentalizes very well. Devon could be a plant without knowledge of Cobel being a plant/lone actor here. Also, Devon could honestly be there more for the child's benefit than anything. If she is a plant, her whole goal could be to foster another Eagen for the family line, marrying Ricken as a stock horse.
Am I the only one that clicks the like button before the video even begins? I already know it will be good!
A new video! Made my day :) keep ‘‘em coming!!
RE: "Who are you talking to?" I read it slightly differently- She wanted Mark to go to therapy right? to talk to a therapist? but she also knows Mark well enough to know that he would never just switch gears like that on his own. She perhaps recognises some quality in him that has been missing since Gemma's "death", so something must have changed. A new friend? a romance?. I think either of these, the therapist or a new connection in Marks life, is what Devon is referring to when she asks that question. More interesting is the answer- who does deserve credit for Marks widening perspective? Pete could definitely be one. But then, could Mark S' feelings for Helly might also play a subconscious part in this sudden motivation?
Friend, I do enjoy your theories and the time to put on the run foil hat is my favorite when a new video drops!
Today a trailer was released to announce season 2 in January… gives us a few more months to theorize 🙌
Devin is such an interesting character because she seems the most normal of all but when paying attention you realize there’s a few things that we don’t know about her.
I want to suggest you another show, dark and from the UK but that touches on time recurrence (or time travel for the layman) in such a smart way.
One season is out now and 2 more are planned to make it a trilogy - the first season finale explains a lot and yet there are SO many elements that aren’t revealed yet. Rarely do I find shows like this, of the caliber of Severance in another genre.
The Devil’s Hour it is called and I would love your take and brain juice melting trying to solve that one 😂 like I said, we learned a lot in the first season 6 episodes but clearly there’s a lot more that we can only try to speculate on.
Much love and keep up the good work, I’m having a blast watching those videos!
It doesn't really make sense to me that Mark became Severed to cope with Gemma's death. For most people, work provides at least some kind of a distraction from the grief. Like you said, maybe Mark's drinking predates Gemma's death, and maybe his going Severed is more about avoiding needing to remain sober for at least 8 hours every day.
Amazing theories as usual!
Can be one of the most important characters in Season 2 as she is the only person familiar with Mark's both inner and outie
Have you guys noticed how Devon always wears something BLUE?? I truly think that's she's involved with lumon
🥳 Nautilus back! ⚓
I think that the idea that Devon's water filter filter's out something that Lumon put in there is very plausible, compared to the other theories. The theory that they put something in the water makes a lot of sense, given how strange the rest of the people living in Kier are, and since Devon drinks filtered water she wouldn't be affected by it. I assume that whatever Lumon puts in the water would have other purposes and giving people reduced intelligence/common sense could be a side affect, but using that we can see the correlation between the filtered water and someone acting normally. I think that Devon doesn't know about whatever is in the water, and she just happens to drink filtered water. This doesn't mean that it isn't intentional, though. I've read some other comments here suggesting that Lumon's plants could be very compartmentalized, and that they would know nothing about each other. It's possible they may not even know they are plants at all. If Devon is a plant in a situation like this, Lumon could've somehow influenced her into filtering her water (eg. a "doctor" telling her she needs to drink filtered water, a "friend" telling her about the dangers of unfiltered water, etc.).
Did anyone else notice when Devon is researching the Senator and his wife on her laptop and Ricken starts to enter to let her know Mrs. Selvig has arrived, she slams the laptop shut to hide what she was looking at. That tells me she is suspicious of Ricken or thinks he is connected to Lumon in some way.
Great job as usual, but I mean really... to be fair I'd listen to Nautilus read the back of a cereal box. That voice is like velvet, N.
Mark and Devon’s relationship reminds me of Ben Affleck’s relationship with his sister in Gone Girl. She is what’s known as an endangered innocent designed to give insight into the main character and raise the stakes associated with his choices. Theories can be fun but not at the expense of a well structured story of which severance is a master class
SEASON 2 ANNOUNCEMENT OMG!!!!
Thank you, Nautilus. Let’s hurry up and wait for January 17th! 😂
I think in that moment Devon thought Mark sounded nuts and like a conspiracy theorist, so I took her “who have you been talking to” as like, “what conspiracy qanon ass message boards have you been chatting on?”
We have to wait six more months for season two whhhhyyyyyyy😭
I started watching your series and it ended with my husband and I binging the series over the weekend and debating theories, he said he listened to a creepy pasta 10 years ago with an eerily similar premise
What if she knew Ricken before he was severed? From the first time we met Ricken, until we knew more- I originally thought Devon was there because Mark was there… but what if not only were they either there together/ but Ricken was severed after Devon and he were married? What if Devon pretends to not know and that’s why she’s subtly pushing Mark to not be? Also, were Mark and Devon the product of a man who grew up in Kier?
Wait ... how do we know that any of these people weren't actually grown as livestock? Maybe Helly was right when she first woke up. Is Lumon a decent place to work? They would totally raise human goats to test. The whole experience in the goat room, I think the guy was saying, "They aren't ready yet". What if the whole severance project is to not only grow model workers, but it is to also grow model citizens for Lumon.
I think the severed employees were seeing goats but they were actually human babies. The chip makes them see a goat instead of a baby.
i don't think Devon is a Lumon plant, but possible Ricken could be. you're video on Ricken had me thinking, about him possibly being an Eagon. maybe he's the plant, and Lumon just didn't tell Cobel about it, or Devon. and he didn't tell Devon as well🤔 just an idea! and btw, it's strange Ricken has paintings around his house of him overlooking landscapes, just like the ones of Kier Eagan at Lumon ☮
There are so many tiny details that seem to hint to a link between him and Lumon. There's gotta be something to it!
Season 2: JANUARY 17th !!!!!!!
Severance Season 2 JANUARY 2025. Finally!!
January 17th !!!!!! So far far away 😢
I love Devon & Ricken together. 😊🧡
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I interpreted “Who have you been talking to?” As a similar phrase to “Who are you and what did you do with my brother?” But it definitely is interesting to think about it differently.
This silly theory is beneath this illustrious channel.
Okay so I'm watching it again for like the 5th time and I'm just gonna put my thoughts here :P
Idk if anyone's thought of it but I wonder if any of the townspeople, since it was theorized they might be Severed too, are like, Lumon rejects? Kinda? So now that we know Helly is an Eagan, it makes sense why she isn't allowed to leave even if she gets aggresive. But what if an average regular person really could leave after harassing them enough times? So maybe they were townspeople who were too much of a handful and left? I guess you'd have to bridge that with them being unknowingly wiped of their outer Lumon memories too though.
Well I'm probably overthinking singular lines again (then again I started to think I was overthinking the "ask to leave three times" line and then I hear "what about your therapist that weird little guy with a mustache" -potentially Irving- and I'm like OMG NEVERMIND, THINK EVERYTHING.) anyway so yeah that one prob doesn't make sense but I thought I'd note it somewhere :^).
Arguably the most intriguing character in the series
Uhm… I love Devin but just no lmao
I could go along with "most authentic", but "most intriguing" has got to be Helly R. since she has the biggest internal conflict.
She wants to know who tipped him off because she wants to know who changed him and her husband.
I think Devon might be a part of the anti-Lumen/anti-severance activist group. That would explain some of her weird questions, but also means she wouldn’t necessarily know who is who at Lumen (except for the public facing people like Hilly and her dad).
Thank you for putting a theory vid around the same time as the trailer vid so now I have something tasty to watch while trying real hard to avoid the trailer one 😂.
Anyway, hope you're well man. Also do you watch Arcane and would you do vids on it if you haven't yet? (If you ever watch it, you'd prob like schnee's videos on it, you guys got the same smart thinker feel haha).
What's good, Ollie! I do watch Arcane and I've watched quite a few of Schnee's videos on it. He's great at covering it. Since Severance isn't coming back for a few months I might start covering something else for a while so Arcane is a possibility.
@@nautilusfiles hiiii! :) Nice! Yeah I can't believe if that one comment is true, that we gotta wait another half year for Severance 😭.
I heard “who have you been talking to” as concern because she thinks Lumon us SUPER no good and he might’ve talked to people about his concerns that could later get him in trouble.
Do we know which is the older sibling? Not sure that it matters, but it would be fun to know to help suss out the relationship dynamic. I also love the sister moment in episode 9 when Mark asks if Eleanor is their baby, and she responds "ewww!"
I don't think they ever mention who is older, but something about their banter makes me feel like she's the older one. I sometimes wonder if she acted like a mother to Mark when they were younger based on the way she fusses over him lol
I seem to remember them mentioning that Mark was the older sibling in one of the car scenes, but I could be mis-remembering it.
@@nautilusfiles I got the same vibe, that she kind of looks after him, and that she may be a little more mature. I see her in a similar dynamic with Ricken, being his grounding post. I really think (and hope) that she is on the good side :)
8:08 i’d like to counter your “if they were on the same team wouldn’t they know” with one if they’re both employed by different departments of lumon with similar assignments why would they overlap when lumons so set on secrecy and the lack of overlapping
we know harmony isn’t really *that* high up on the ladder despite seemingly being up to some degree on it and we know from her “meetings” it’s usually a one way door between her supervisors communication and that she has restricted knowledge about what’s happening in lumon so why wouldn’t that also be the case for devon if they shared a same supervisor
i can also see devon is so against severance because she knows more than most of us know about severance and has known for some time and is protective of her brother
just to clarify im not sure i buy devon being a double agent i think she’s a placeholder for the viewers perspective (i think she might know reghabi (i have zero backing evidence for this it’s just a hunch and i’m not sure how much she’d know bc of her if she does)) more than anything but anyways thanks for another video and i enjoyed playing devils advocate here
Fore the most puzzling thing îs how did She end up with a guy Like Ricken. IT just makes no sense to me...She seems very down to Earth like Mark, where Ricken seems like a charicature. Is really hard not to make fun of his ridiculous beleives and behaviour. How îs She even having a kids with him? I would see Ricken with someone as obnoxious as himself, certanly not with Devon...
Right, haha. Think I could see him with Rebec, maybe. 😂
The two Devon sus theories: "who have you been talking to" ? I think she's questioning Mark's paranoia or conspiracy theories. Remember she's the rational one in the series. Two: she drinks filtered water. Lots of reasons to drink filtered water. She's PREGNANT and nursing. Or it's a contrast to Mark's alcoholism or it's filtered water is more accessible to middle/upper class people or she just likes the taste. It's a red herring? 🐙
Honestly i can't think of anything else i would say in that situation where Mark says hes been looking into the company. Other than the question, who have you been talking to?
I think the first thing most people would want to know is "what" was discovered, before the "who" they heard it from.
I think Devon and her hubby are both severed.
i like the little nose thing she does 🥰
And her name backwards is Noved!
yep, and Noved means 'Shadowing Soul'
Earliest I’ve ever been
People being suspicious about Devon drinking filtered water is WILD AS FUCK TO ME. It is incredibly common. We drink filtered water in my household. Some people don’t like the taste that the minerals in their local water have so they filter it. Some cities don’t have trustworthy tap water because US infrastructure is a fucking nightmare so they filter it. I am so shook to find out that people find that weird/suspicious, it is normal to me and everyone I know, even those from other states and cities lmao.
I'm in a city with relatively good water and I still _prefer_ filtered water. Some places the chlorination is more noticable and I would be even more stringent about it.
Plus, I'm pretty sure that Ricken would have insisted for the pregnancy, even if that wasn't her preference.
Excited to see the premiere of Sunny tomorrow on Apple TV, Rashida Jones is one of my favorite actresses and I think it has potential to fill the Severance void for at least a decent while
Definitely planning on watching it. Still too slept on imo
Crazy theory: Devon participated in the orchestration of Gemma getting taken in by lumon. Maybe she felt that Gemma was wrong for mark because they all spent a lot of time together (maybe she enabled his drinking?) and she wanted to do what she thought was right by helping to get him into a severed job. That might be too tinfoily and I don’t have much to support it but I think the only way she might be involved in the conspiracy would be to support marks best interest. She may not even know much about it all in this scenario but maybe she just wanted Gemma gone. CALL ME BANANAS I know it’s a little out there
This is downright diabolical! I'm almost sure we will get some surprise reveal about Devon in season 2, but it's fun to theorize on how spicy it will be
ok, lets go full wacky theory. Lumen is actually trying to save everyone and they are the good guys. the whole severance work thing is a cover, and the chips lock out the tempers. that is the testing they are doing, making sure the four tempers dont melt through into the true self.
when Helly bumps into her dad he actually knows its helly and sees the pain she is in. when he says "look what she did to you" hes talking about how Helena [riddled with the tempers] has hurt helly
No knock to the actor.
They cast the most beige, generic looking person to play this role.
And, as with everything else in this show, it seems the things the audience might gloss over are the very things requiring deeper attention.
What does Kier eat for breakfast kinda stuff....
That's why I think she's perfect. She can blend into the background better, and the flatness of her character is perfectly contrasted to Ricken's outlandish personality. But... being the mystery box that it is, it leaves room for suspicion lol
I hate the EQ you use for your voiceover, it's got way too much low end, enough that I can't even watch your videos even though I want to.
Sorry to hear that. My speaking voice is deeper than what you hear in the recording, so I brighten my voice a little to take the edge off.
What if the Outties are ALREADY severed and have moved to Keir to start new, severed lives, with no memories of their old lives or chosing to be severed? And what if Lumon testing is DOUBLE or 'layering' Severance? In other words, severing already severed people.
Based On -
1. No real background or character explanation of People outside of Lumon (Mark, his sister, Ricken, their friends, Petey's family, other non-innies etc). Is this Because they all went there to be severed from their actual lives (base reality) and their memories of their real lives was wiped? How did they all end up living in a Lumon town? How & where did they all meet or grow up at? How do we know if the Outties memories (and all of those who live in Keir) are even real? All of their memories of lives together (ie Mark and Jemma's entire relationship, Mark and his sisters relationship) could just be memory implants they received when they chose to be severed and move to Keir, so that they could be matched up in a life with other severed Keir residents. Also, Marks sister Devon, is different from everyone else in the Outties World, she seems normal, conscious, aware, grown up and sort of worn out, really trying to exercise patience. Perhaps she is like Mrs. Cobel; severed but aware and in place as a watcher.
2. A majority of people u see outside of Lumon, specifically Rickens friends, are very strange and childlike, the same as Innies. This would make sense in this theory.
What if she knew Ricken before he was severed? From the first time we met Ricken, until we knew more- I originally thought Devon was there because Mark was there… but what if not only were they either there together/ but Ricken was severed after Devon and he were married? What if Devon pretends to not know and that’s why she’s subtly pushing Mark to not be? Also, were Mark and Devon the product of a man who grew up in Kier?