Traditional Style Wardrobes Build
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- Опубліковано 13 жов 2024
- How we built these wardrobes with some more traditional looking features. Footage from November 2019.
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Great video Alistair. As a hobby carpenter i've watched this video at least ten times, i just have to find the courage to start this project. 😂
really, 10 times?? is this exactly the look you’re aiming for then?
@@Alastair_Freebird Yes for similar alcoves, but not the same coving, i'm breaking your video down into segments so i make minimal mistakes. I did make some alcove cabinets after watching your other videos a while back. I was rewatching one of your videos today with Hafele feet 🙂.
@@equin9309 Well it's very interesting to hear how my videos are used! Are you aware of the membership site? Lots of extra content that would be relevant to you on there - £7 per month no tie-in. www.buymeacoffee.com/freebird
@@Alastair_Freebird No i wasn't aware, but i will have a look into it. 👍
One word for this one “outstanding” 👍🏻
Some nice work.
I served my time as a cabinetmaker...I have worked as a kitchen designer for about 9 years in a showroom ....mostly customer facing. I am thinking about making the jump to go out on my own. I love you videos . Thanks Alistair.
Good luck. And thanks 👍
Excellent Job. Annoys me that the fireplace is off centre though. I would brick that up lol
Excellent work as always. I certainly do appreciate the many hours of thought that’s been put into the manufacturing & installation processes.
Nice job , fantastic workmanship
Thanks for taking the time out to educate us!
Some great tips for anyone wanting to make their own units...👍
Damn your work is spot on mate!
I’m glad you think so! This is a pretty old video, I like to think we’ve only got better!
Cracking job, thanks for sharing your work methods and tips👍
You’re welcome!
Another beautiful wardrobe and a very slick install. A lot of planning to make all the components fit properly. Well done!
Nice job. Throughly enjoyed the video.
Thanks!
Enjoyed this video Alastair, thank you and the references you give for products is so helpful. It has arrived at a most appropriate time as I’m about to embark on a wardrobe build flanked by a couple of bookcases. Can I ask, is there any particular reason for using timber instead of mdf for the plynths, as I have noticed you use both ? I want to use inset doors too, and you have confirmed why, I think they look great. The whole job looks classy with the oak and paint contrast and your process looks very slick ! Between yourself and Mr Millard, I’ve learnt so much. Thanks. Alex
Hi Alex I’ve stumbled across this comment which I seem not to have answered!! A bit late now but… I think I basically just had some of that timber lying around, but also I felt it would be a more rigid base than mdf and the smoother cut edges would make sliding the boxes into position easier!
Hi Alistair I think you mentioned in a previous video where you got your round over router bit from for the edges. Can you give me a reminder. Excellent work and as usual. The workshop is looking great by the way, bit jealous 👌👌
alan burniston www.wealdontool.com 👍
This is impressively splendid sir; thanks for the enlightenment!
As I say to the lads here "you have to be thinking 3 steps ahead of what your doing" nice job as always.
Thank you so much for making the video to educate us!! I am about to make my first fitted in wardrobe. Just wondering what kind of screw you use to fix the wardrobe on the wall in the corner bracket. My chimney breast is mixture of dot and dab wall and stud wall. Do you think I will need corefix or concrete screw to secure it?
Hi sorry for the delay, almost always I get a good enough grab in the wall with a red uno plug ( to suit a 6mm masonry drill hole) and a 4.0 x 35mm standard pozidrive screw
lovely job
Thanks!
Hi Alistair. Thanks so much for posting such helpful videos - they've helped me to build my own built in wardrobes at home 🙂 The only thing I can't seem to find anywhere online are the dimensions for stiles and rails! I've made traditional wadrobes like these and wonder what width you've used for top, middle and bottom rails and also the width of the stiles? My wadrobes are 2000mm tall. I'd be grateful for your advice. Thank you 🙂
Hi! Usually anywhere between 75 and 100mm rails and stiles, and the mid rail I usually do 150mm tall and centred 900mm from floor. Thanks for the feedback!
Great to see how you use the laser to level the base.
If you could only pick ONE scribing tool, what would it be? Those edge scribes were 👌
Richard Clarke well, that’s a tricky one! I think I’d say the 18mm tri-scribe from swanky scribe, which I didn’t actually have at the time of this video but I used in this one: ua-cam.com/video/wpqVc_zJfgI/v-deo.html
@@Alastair_Freebird Yeah, they are pretty cool. Cheers Alastair, hope you're keeping well.
Really, scribing tools come in at least 2 distinct categories: firstly marking tools which hold the pencil at a fixed distance off the wall. This includes the swanky scribes, block scribes, traditional compasses, profiler+, easy scribe and others. Some are fixed position and some adjustable. And secondly positioning tools like the U-scribe jig which hold the work piece at a position off the wall to match the scribe tools setting. This includes clamps. And then there are other tools like the profiling comb.
I suppose I chose the simple triscribe as the tool of choice if I was forced to have only one because the 18mm offset is probably the most useful and easy to position even if you didn’t have the u scribes
@@Alastair_Freebird And therein is the difference between a pro and a DiY bodger like me 😀
Stunning job. 👌
Black Tea One Sugar thanks!
Very nice cabinets and installation. It was strange seeing the GPOs inside the cabinets. Wouldn't it be more practical for them to be on the skirting board - this is not intended as a criticism at all, just that it would drive me crazy having to open a wardrobe in order to plug in an appliance. Thanks for the vi. Cheers, David.
DRMNZ hi David I see what you’re saying, I just made the socket accessible rather than trapping it completely behind the back panel and in this project the customer planned to plug in a tv on the wall to the left of that wardrobes and conceal the wires inside the unit so it suited them this way
Fantastic build, you can really appreciate the differences between standardised and bespoke with this video. Whilst the difference may seem quite subtle on the face of it, the extra work involved is significant.
Can I ask - when you make the 56mm (iirc) end fillers that also act as a side return which you then scribe into the wall, how do you make the corner assembly for this piece? Is it mitred along the long edge? And is it a sharp corner or do you round it off with a router once assembled?
Thanks for commenting and the side panel is glued and domino jointed into the outer back face of the 56mm strip with a deliberate chamfer on each adjoining arrow to create a v joint which may also be caulked, prior to spray painting (on the basis that it is better to emphasise such a join than to unsuccessfully hide it). We usually now also glue and pin an 18mm filler strip into that assembly too so it goes on as one piece screwed on from the inside with screws under hinge plates. Our standard arris edge treatment is with a 2mm arris roundover bit from Wealden tools: www.wealdentool.com/cgi-bin/sh000001.pl?WD=arris%202mm&PN=Online_Catalogue_Arris_Rounding_964%2ehtml#aT1306B
Fabulous work Alistair
Nice job Alistair 👍
Peakcraft thanks!
Hi. Loved the installation process here. Really nice work. Can I ask what the orange spacers are? Are they kitchen fitters fixings for base units?
Hi yes they were designed originally for fitting kitchen base cabinets and they are called space plugs space-plug.com/
Beautiful work as always! Do you ever put insulation panels between the back/sides of built in pieces if they connect to external walls?
Gerry M I have done it one request a few time but for the purpose of sound insulation on partition walls (noisy neighbours!)
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Freebird Interiors thanks Alastair! I’m considering it when I do mine as my house is old and the walls uninsulsted so even having one wall with 50mm kingspan or similar sandwiched between the wardrobe back should make a difference. Hope you are starting to get back to jobs now we have moved on a bit 👍
Gerry M I think that makes sense; only thing to be wary of is if there is even a hint of damp on that wall you will create problems if you trap it in. We are busier than ever thanks with lots of enquiries but currently focused on setting up the new workshop! You can see our progress on that in the short video linked in the description of this video
Freebird Interiors makes sense, I will carefully check that out. Thankfully it’s 1920’s double skin rather than single. I’ve been watching the progress on Instagram! Looks AMAZING 🙌
Hi Alistair, thanks for the detailed explanation. When you screw through the carcass at the top to the ceiling are you screwing into joists? And how then do you hide the screwheads?
Hi, no it is too much trouble to try and line up with joists! I rely on the red Uno wall plugs for everything like this - 6mm drill hole, insert one to flush. And it grips well enough whether It’s plasterboard or lath and plaster. Screw heads either tucked behind a drop down lip, or wax filled or covered with a sticky cap that matches the melamine finish
When you bring the socket to the inside of the carcass what do you do if there isn’t enough slack in the cable? Great work as always.
will Jones see fairly on in this video where I used wago connector blocks: ua-cam.com/video/QAm2wvSjSgU/v-deo.html
But I became uncomfortable getting too involved in electrical alterations so I prefer to get an electrician to extend the wires as necessary and prepare the plastic back box ready for me to fit
I’ll check out those connectors they look interesting. Thanks a lot
Great attention to detail as always and top workmanship, good job lads, just wondered what you did about the hinge holes to left hand unit that were repositioned, and how is the new unit coming on, are you in yet ?.
Property Maintenance Southwest yes I forgot to follow up on that in the video - we either filled the with oak coloured soft wax, or more likely I think we used oak effect sticky cover caps (if you’re not familiar with them google fast caps, kwik caps, chameleon cover caps... various brands available to match most melamine finishes)
Property Maintenance Southwest I put a little link near the start of the video, also in the description below it, to the latest vlog from Friday just gone, as a I thought some non-members might be interested in progress. (In case you missed it, I am doing regular vlogs for members only at www.buymeacoffee.com/Freebird charting in detail the whole process of renovating the workshop, space planning installing machinery, setting up the spray booth, and getting up and running again with manufacture).
This is the direct link to friday’s vlog: ua-cam.com/video/G99XBLrDTZ4/v-deo.html. Like all the other vlogs in that series they are set to ‘unlisted’ on you tube which means they are not publicly visible; only found by direct link, usually made available only to members.
@@Alastair_Freebird Thanks Alistair, I will take a look, appreciate you taking the time to share your knowledge mate 👍.
Thanks for videos. I might have missed it, but what adhesive do you attach the cover strips with? The ones you taped up in the video.
Hi. Great to see different approaches from my own to wardrobe building. Thank you for sharing Can I just ask what make the laser level you use at 1.18 is? Thanks, David
Hi David it’s a great value level, this one: ua-cam.com/video/zz_Qy-1jcaQ/v-deo.html
Thanks for the info. I use a Leica that’s way too bulky. Really enjoying the channel 👍
Morning.
You say you use inset for 2 doors or less. Is that to give you a bigger side fillers? So on say a 6 door wardrobe you'd have all overlay to keep door same size? Great vid again. Taking lots of note👍
Jesse Mackin hi it’s simply because as soon as you have more than 2 doors you are going to have a door with its hinge side adjacent to another door and then if you are using the inset hinge you need to add a cover strip in between the doors. For long runs of doors I just usually prefer the doors to all sit side by side using overlay hinges (to be honest this is partly laziness, avoiding the extra process of cover strips to prepare and fit!). A cover strip of some sort is necessary as a scribe at wall sides, and it also looks good on projecting sides as in this project, and using inset hinges just makes it a bit easier to make those scribes wider without too much packing material; reclaiming 18mm usable space inside the carcase on each side, and making it possible to fit the scribe directly to the carcase edge.
@@Alastair_Freebird on your wardrobes vid part 2:doors and scribes you have the end doors as overlay (think it's a 6 door) Is that to just keep all hinges consistent. I've also been advised to have the end fillers around 50mm or is it just an aesthetic thing?
Jesse Mackin yeah it just gets a bit confusing mixing hinges and different door sizes vs carcase sizes to accommodate the inset hinges. 50mm scribe minimum makes sense for door to open at least 90 degrees without the handle immediately hitting the wall
@@Alastair_Freebird thanks alastair. Have a good weekend
Great video. What are the orange spacers called between the wall and the cabinets?
Space plugs space-plug.com/
Great video. Just wondering what the orange spacers are between the wall and the side of the carcase and how they work? Thanks
They're called Space Plugs, have a google. They're threaded so you can adjust them to the gap. They're hollow so you can put a screw through the carcass, through the space plug and into the wall. The idea is to keep the carcass from deforming or pulling out of square/ plumb under the screw compression. Hope that helps 👍
The alcove nearest to the window in my house isn't a right angle before it meets the bay like the one you're working on, its a 45% angled wall. How would you finish one like that? Thanks
Nice job, not really keen on chipboard though. I got wardrobes at home made of this nasty material that completely collapse after one year. Is it possible to build the carcass out of ply and finish it with walnut face?
Hi I do like plywood for carcases yes. It depends on the budget the client is willing to stretch too. The plywood should ideally be sprayed too which is extra labour on top of a more expensive material. We don’t do solid wood doors because of warping issues we’ve had in the past
who makes those orange side fillers? who do they attach, is it more than just tension keeping it from falling out?
Hey there are spaceplugs, you can put a long screw through the middle www.space-plug.com/
This is almost exactly what I’m looking to achieve in my new house. Do you have a rough costing of what this would be? I know that’s incredibly difficult to do without specs etc but a ball park would be really appreciated :) I’m in Barnsley - do you come up this way? Cheers
Around 2400
Hi Plum-stone we would charge a fair bit more for this style than Mezzy Gohil here. Being VAT registered doesn’t help. All inclusive with bespoke design and spray painting these were nearer £4k.
Freebird Interiors thank you for getting back to me, that’s much more realistic and what I was expecting :) god knows where that Mezzy for his quote from
There are lots of ways of going about things and lots of different business structures, different cost bases etc. I also know companies who would charge twice or more what we charge.
Freebird Interiors wowzers!
Thank you Alistair.
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Hi there ! At 2.10 those brackets - did you use them instead of the orange space plugs for any reason? ps you can get them from a company called Wurth, you may need a trade account though ( for anyone reading this)
Hi! I use them wherever I can, as they can be easier to fit and more hidden then spaceplugs depending on the circumstance. I did hear they can be bought via Wurth, and also more recently Bedrooms Plus are stocking them
@@Alastair_Freebird possibly more stronger too expecially if used in conjunction with packing (say 18mm wood just like u used in your video. I have also wondered if the space plug being made of plastic may deteriorate over time even so not in direct sunlight.
Are these wardrobes made from MDF? And whats the thought process of the sockets inside the wardrobe?
Syntax Error doors and frontages are made from MR MDF for best flatness of finish and stability. Customer wanted to fit a tv to the chimney breast and bring cables into the wardrobe to conceal them.
Hello
What’s is the reference of the orange height adjustment on the on the top of the wardrobe ?
Sorry for my English I’m French
Thanks for all your tricks 👍
Hi I think you are asking about the Space Plugs space-plug.com/
Freebird Interiors yes exactly
Thanks for your answer 👍
Looks great. I do find it odd that you mention "after some forwards and backwards with the customer" seeing as they're the one commissioning you do this, they probably shouldn't be blamed for any shortfall.
Would you be wiling to provide your tasks/timing record chart? Looking to increase some efficiency!
BigLav send me an email and I’ll send some details back. Find it via my website
NIce, though the holes at the very top would annoy me
Ashley the plaster coving specialist came and matched up the ceiling coving around the front, that was always the plan. I just didn’t get any footage of that
Where do you get the sheet goods from...
Lawcris in Leeds
@@Alastair_Freebird thanks