i done wardrobes on site for years never again thers nothing as bad as trying to work in tight spaces with the customer having the heating on full wack and all your tools outside set up with nobody keeping an eye on them hat off to you pal
I agree the hinge drill can be very tricky, as it can easily wander off and damage the door. The trick with using it successfully is to drill a hole with it in a scrap piece of 18mm MDF, and then you position that drilled hole where you want the hinge to be on the door and clamp it down. This creates a perfect guide to ensure the hinge drill doesn't slip. Remove the MDF guide after you've drilled down 10mm or so and finish off as normal. Works perfect every time. You can refine the guide by gluing a 'stop' on the face of it to create the correct off-set from the edge of the door. Nice to see real work being done instead of over-edited videos where the worker always makes everything perfect first-time everytime.
That's a great tip! When we fitted our kitchen, I dreaded drilling the holes for the hinges, especially considering the price of the oak doors (circa £100 per door). We got a slightly cheaper Blum template: www.ironmongerydirect.co.uk/product/blum-adjustable-drilling-position-transfer-for-jig-hinges-and-plates-323188 it works by marking the holes and then you use a pillar drill and 35mm forstner bit. It worked like a charm, no mis-drilled doors. It's great because it can take the position from pre-drilled holes in the carcass, or an already fitted hinge boss and transfer it to the door and vice versa. We also used a template that Blum make for fitting drawer fronts to tandemboxs, again, very handy and no issues. The £100ish you may spend on a jig is worth it for the peace of mind, knowing that it'll work first time every time!
Not wanting to sound like a know it all, but I have never had a problem with them running away and I use crap cutters. Get a bit of chatter in chip board sometimes, but I pilot for the tip point with a 2.5 mm bit so it follows that.
Top notch job as usual and as we all know having the right tools is half your battle..😂You guys seem to have a very calm and collected atmosphere when you’re working..👍🏻
Addendum just been on to by a litre of Mylands "not a stock we order it in what the price there's a price list just inside the door" £31 a liter Inc vat, ok. "have you got an account" No "We'll ring when it's in, just need to take payment........(pause) there's a carriage charge, that's *£110.50* No sorry Walked away so know *Kent and Blaxill* on the *BOYCOTT LIST* *£70 CARRIAGE NO*
I'd be making these in a w/s and fitting them in the house. Both Festool Domino's are on my list. I fix my backs on with a Bostich narrow crown stapler. They give a much better fix.
It’s bizarre as it was only on that one wall. It stopped at the picture rail and there was a perfect square with no marks where there used to be a radiator. I plastered the room on a Friday and there were no signs of any marks until it had fully dried.
@@jimichip The owner came in, drinking a brew, to take a look at the work to date. So impressed they were with the finish that they spat their tea over the wall.
James, I noticed that you have dust extraction on the back of your blum eco drill. Did you do this yourself, as I have not seen this before. Thanks, Richard
Hi Richard, Yes, I cut a hole out with a hole saw then fitted a 40mm electrical gland that I picked up from an electrical wholesalers. The dust extractor fits perfectly in it.
Plaster Blasting. I worked with a old school builder who warned me about this years ago. I cannot remember exactly what he told me about what the cause was but I do recall it was to do with concaminates within the plaster mix. So, for example mixing plaster in a bucket that has had been used for mixing cement and not been given a good clean inbetween between mixes . I have come across similar "Blasting" in bricks and after doing a bit of research it turns out that if the materials the within the brick contains contaminates then gasses can build up within the brick with pressures up to 2000psi causeing the face of the brick to Blast off. Scary init.
James if your wife really likes that Ferrero Rocher, and given that the camera ruse has been rumbled have you thought about a spot of aversion therapy on the kids? The idea is buy a box of Ferrero Rocher - gorge on the choccies but keep all the wrappers. Then buy brussels sprouts and select the most suitable sizes, before going boiling and allow to fully cool and dry out on kitchen towel roll. Then get set up to melt a bar of Dairy Milk chocolate and set up the Brussels on a sheet of tin foil and pour melted chocolate over them. Once set, carefully wrap in the previously retained wrappers, place in the box and set the trap for the kids. In my experience most kids don’t like Brussels sprouts. BTW: A bit late for this year but it is also a good wheeze for Halloween and ‘Trick or Treat’.😉
Hi there, from your experience, with all the parts cutted out on workshop what is easier and safer to do? On workshop and then assembly it on site or working on site as you doing here?
As a beginner DIYr many years ago... I built a full height alcove shelving unit like this for my sister... I built it in the sitting room & when I went to stand it up it was too tall diagonally ... 🙄😂😂 I learned about PLINTHS that day... 😖
@@SkillBuilder Thanks Roger ... the most embarrassing part is my late dad was a cabinetmaker by trade ! He must have had a good laugh, looking down at his engineer son who normally works in thousanths making such a rooky mistake... 😁😁😁 😎👍☘️🍺
Pva doesn’t work with primed mdf... it needs to soak in to work and it can’t so you’ll find if you back those screws out and give it a little tap it’ll come right apart. I found this out on a wardrobe project last year!
It seemed pretty good. We had to cut a section out of the back to access some pipe work and when we broke it up to put in the skip it ripped the MDF to pieces. Maybe it’s the glue we use or the primer that Cutwrights use?
Good looking job lads a handy trick is to put the shoes over the end gables so when the kids (the lads) are messing about it doesn't pop the screws 🤦♂️🔨
@@jimichip thanks for taking the time to reply, in the past I've used confirmat screws in mdf and was extremely impressed how well they hold. They act as a dowel and a screw in one , using the correct confirmat drill bit makes it much easier.
Love to see a video of that blum hinge jig in action. I assume it would work on built in washing machine furniture doors where the hinge holes don't line up and you need drill a new one half over the old one?
@@SkillBuilder Wurth make an excellent jig as well for cutting the holes. I have used one for years, not cheap though. I must admit I prefer to do all of that donkey work back in the workshop and just assemble and fit in the house.
It's more a slot morticer. The dominios as they call em are the tennons. It does the same as a biscuit just fancier. And being festool, 10x more expensive.
Hi James They need to work for their chocolate, take the dog for a walk, do the washing up. My Dad used to bring home one of those Cadbury's Mini Milk trays where you get individual chocolate bars about a third of the size of a matchbox. There were six kids and we got one each if we had been good all week. That was all the chocolate I ever saw as a kid until I worked out how to remove the front off a vending machine. The reason you no longer see chocolate vending machines at underground stations anymore is due to kids like me.
We could’ve done but it wouldn’t have been the 735mm that was required in this position to fit next to the 420mm open shelving unit that the client asked for. It also would’ve been a lot higher than the picture rail that we were working to. So in this situation bespoke cut panels were the winner.
Strange way to put the carcases together, stick the dominoes in the shelf rather than the sides, much easier. Get yourself a Domiplate too or make your own, speeds up carcase building 👍
It’s definitely something that was on the wall previously as it stops at the picture rail and there is a perfect rectangle with no spots where the old radiator used to be. There is also a couple of patches on two of the other walls but nowhere near the amount on that one.
The client has just brought you in a bacon sandwich but there is a bit of rind in there. You know what will happen if you put the rind in the bin rather than the food recycling, World War 3 will break out. Stick it in the mix.
@@jimichip When I was a kid my sister came up with the idea of taking the seal off the tin of quality sweets and replacing it with sellotape after we had taken a few sweets each. We probably wouldn't have been caught except for when my mum asked what we were doing I answered "nothing" with a mouth full of sweets :D
@@noskills9577 lamello look the business and I am keen to get my hands on one but currently my funds are going into replenishing stocks of Ferrero Rocher at home.
So why a domino above a normal biscuit joiner. Wasted money on both. I only and always use the biscuit joiner. Faster en more forgiving if I'm 1mm out.
I could be wrong but I was under the impression that a domino acts like a floating tenon, and so provides structural rigidity, whereas a biscuit is more for alignment e.g. when joining multiple boards to make a panel?
Christopher You make a big assumption there. Most tradesmen are cheap. It should cost £300 a day for a carpenter but very few are charging that. The person paying for those tools is James. You will find that most tradesemen add to their tool kit over years and never charge the customer. If they hire something in such as scaffolding the cost is put on the job but all those expensive tools are not charged for which is wrong from a business point of view because they allow the job to be done a lot faster, and the labour cost is therefore reduced. I know plenty of tradesmen who don't even charge for travelling. Most tradesmen are bad business men and that benefits the customer, they work for wages,, take losses on the chin and sometimes don't even get paid.
Christopher you couldn't be further from the truth. As has already been said quality tools are bloody expensive, as is running a van and insurance everyrhing else that goes into running a business as a tradesman. Ive always said that a part of training/ apprenticeships should be a recognised course in running a small buisiness, covering all aspects of finance etc. I wish I'd taken such a course, would have saved me a lot of expensive mistakes and sleepless nights. Fantastic work again James and thanks Roger for bringing us such great content.
You invest tools to make your job easier, no one else makes a tool like the domino, Christopher would you still moan if James had Mafell and the lamello zeta which are more expensive then festool
i done wardrobes on site for years never again thers nothing as bad as trying to work in tight spaces with the customer having the heating on full wack and all your tools outside set up with nobody keeping an eye on them hat off to you pal
Another James and Ian masterclass 👌🏼...... pre primed eh ? So you won’t need any Dulux trade paint then 😏🧱👍🏼
Cheers boys, yeah we’re not getting involved with paint anymore 😂
@@jimichip 👌🏼😁🧱👍🏽
"Before we could afford these tools on finance". If you can afford Festool without finance, you dont need to work! 😊
That's the fact mate!!
I agree the hinge drill can be very tricky, as it can easily wander off and damage the door. The trick with using it successfully is to drill a hole with it in a scrap piece of 18mm MDF, and then you position that drilled hole where you want the hinge to be on the door and clamp it down. This creates a perfect guide to ensure the hinge drill doesn't slip. Remove the MDF guide after you've drilled down 10mm or so and finish off as normal. Works perfect every time. You can refine the guide by gluing a 'stop' on the face of it to create the correct off-set from the edge of the door. Nice to see real work being done instead of over-edited videos where the worker always makes everything perfect first-time everytime.
Good advice. I feel a two minute tip coming on
That's a great tip! When we fitted our kitchen, I dreaded drilling the holes for the hinges, especially considering the price of the oak doors (circa £100 per door). We got a slightly cheaper Blum template: www.ironmongerydirect.co.uk/product/blum-adjustable-drilling-position-transfer-for-jig-hinges-and-plates-323188 it works by marking the holes and then you use a pillar drill and 35mm forstner bit. It worked like a charm, no mis-drilled doors. It's great because it can take the position from pre-drilled holes in the carcass, or an already fitted hinge boss and transfer it to the door and vice versa. We also used a template that Blum make for fitting drawer fronts to tandemboxs, again, very handy and no issues. The £100ish you may spend on a jig is worth it for the peace of mind, knowing that it'll work first time every time!
Not wanting to sound like a know it all, but I have never had a problem with them running away and I use crap cutters. Get a bit of chatter in chip board sometimes, but I pilot for the tip point with a 2.5 mm bit so it follows that.
I have a Kreg jig for cabinet hinges, works great, 👍 😁 🔨 🇮🇪
James and Ian are stars,should have their own youtube channel.
Let's hope they don't. We will have to find new talent
What company did they use to cut and paint the wardrobe?
Top notch job as usual and as we all know having the right tools is half your battle..😂You guys seem to have a very calm and collected atmosphere when you’re working..👍🏻
Thanks Richard.
Not a drop of *DULUX* onsite.
Addendum just been on to by a litre of Mylands
"not a stock we order it in what the price there's a price list just inside the door"
£31 a liter Inc vat, ok.
"have you got an account"
No
"We'll ring when it's in, just need to take payment........(pause) there's a carriage charge, that's *£110.50*
No sorry
Walked away so know *Kent and Blaxill* on the *BOYCOTT LIST*
*£70 CARRIAGE NO*
I'd be making these in a w/s and fitting them in the house. Both Festool Domino's are on my list. I fix my backs on with a Bostich narrow crown stapler. They give a much better fix.
We have a compressor and a few bostitch tools. I might add that one to the list as I’ve never been 100% happy pinning the backs on. Cheers!
Bloody amazing! Damien
James doing his best Jurgen klopp impression 😉
😂 I love the look-a-likes that people come out with for me. I’ve had quite a few now!
Nice to see those doors sit inside the frame rather than on top.
They don't though, they're standard "face on" hinges but with end panels on the unit.
@@nickhaley4663 Yep you're right. Should've spotted that as that's how I installed my kitchen
Great video again, what were you using to fill in the gap at side, you were tapping it in with the manly crowbar?Cheers
Nice work!
Does wood glue stick to the white part of MDF?
Nice to see u guys gluing your cabinets. Any ideas why no one else on youtube seems to glue them these days??
Cutwrights are epic
that pattern was of the night sky, and I believe included the Big Dipper
Very entertaining, thanks :)
Great video as always ( i have this tool and i am still getting to grips with it and learning all its features)
screwing into MDF wow you guys are brave
Dodgy innit, if you mark the centre and screw straight it’s fine to be fair.
Until it isn’t 😂
Re plaster marks - any silicone spray used on the job ? - looks like giant fisheyes .
It’s bizarre as it was only on that one wall. It stopped at the picture rail and there was a perfect square with no marks where there used to be a radiator. I plastered the room on a Friday and there were no signs of any marks until it had fully dried.
@@jimichip The owner came in, drinking a brew, to take a look at the work to date. So impressed they were with the finish that they spat their tea over the wall.
Maybe a wet fart after lube LOL
Tip - I have a set of slightly sanded down dominos for dry fitting. Saves me a bunch of time when dry fitting.
Is the car case chipboard or MDF?
The carcass is MDF
Patterns coming through the plaster is the pva that has soaked through abit?
Oh thanks, maybe it was a bit lumpy
James, I noticed that you have dust extraction on the back of your blum eco drill. Did you do this yourself, as I have not seen this before. Thanks, Richard
Hi Richard,
Yes, I cut a hole out with a hole saw then fitted a 40mm electrical gland that I picked up from an electrical wholesalers. The dust extractor fits perfectly in it.
@@jimichip brilliant, thanks for that. I assume that you are using a standard festool hose?
@@richardmountford6240 you assume correctly! 👍
@@jimichip 👍
Did the same with my Ecodrill as soon as I bought it, I've since 3D printed a proper screw on vac connection.
Plaster Blasting. I worked with a old school builder who warned me about this years ago. I cannot remember exactly what he told me about what the cause was but I do recall it was to do with concaminates within the plaster mix. So, for example mixing plaster in a bucket that has had been used for mixing cement and not been given a good clean inbetween between mixes . I have come across similar "Blasting" in bricks and after doing a bit of research it turns out that if the materials the within the brick contains contaminates then gasses can build up within the brick with pressures up to 2000psi causeing the face of the brick to Blast off. Scary init.
Great video the domino is a class tool pity about the price, thanks
I know have had my eye on them for ages just can’t bring myself to pay the cash lol
James if your wife really likes that Ferrero Rocher, and given that the camera ruse has been rumbled have you thought about a spot of aversion therapy on the kids? The idea is buy a box of Ferrero Rocher - gorge on the choccies but keep all the wrappers. Then buy brussels sprouts and select the most suitable sizes, before going boiling and allow to fully cool and dry out on kitchen towel roll. Then get set up to melt a bar of Dairy Milk chocolate and set up the Brussels on a sheet of tin foil and pour melted chocolate over them. Once set, carefully wrap in the previously retained wrappers, place in the box and set the trap for the kids. In my experience most kids don’t like Brussels sprouts.
BTW: A bit late for this year but it is also a good wheeze for Halloween and ‘Trick or Treat’.😉
Love it! I’m gonna get on to that one! 😂😂😂
Lovely
Hi there, from your experience, with all the parts cutted out on workshop what is easier and safer to do? On workshop and then assembly it on site or working on site as you doing here?
The room was used in a porn film just after plastering? no? ok.
Where do you get your panals from
Cutwright South West London. www.cutwrights.com/new/home
Ians back🙌😂
Still not saying much but he is there
@@SkillBuilder just talk to him about climbing, none of this carpentry nonsense 😅
Still trying to hide from the camera so so we chose the smallest room in the house!😂
Did you make the shaker doors or did they come from Cutrights?
They came from Cutwrights
Cracking job
Top lads. Love the videos with these guys, top tradesmen but decent fellas too. Thanks for filming Rog and Dylan 👌🏼🏴👍🏼
Lovely job lads. Looks great!
As a beginner DIYr many years ago... I built a full height alcove shelving unit like this for my sister... I built it in the sitting room & when I went to stand it up it was too tall diagonally ... 🙄😂😂
I learned about PLINTHS that day... 😖
Ah! that is a great story.
@@SkillBuilder Thanks Roger ... the most embarrassing part is my late dad was a cabinetmaker by trade !
He must have had a good laugh, looking down at his engineer son who normally works in thousanths making such a rooky mistake... 😁😁😁
😎👍☘️🍺
My goal is to build all my furniture without particle board or MDF, except maybe for replaceable parts like shelves.
Where do you order the drawer boxes from made to size?
Cutwrights
Pva doesn’t work with primed mdf... it needs to soak in to work and it can’t so you’ll find if you back those screws out and give it a little tap it’ll come right apart. I found this out on a wardrobe project last year!
It seemed pretty good. We had to cut a section out of the back to access some pipe work and when we broke it up to put in the skip it ripped the MDF to pieces. Maybe it’s the glue we use or the primer that Cutwrights use?
Anthony
There are many variations on PVA
👍 Grease/oil, nicotine, was it papered before? Old paste reacting, liquid stripper.....will probably need a stain primer.
Yes it was papered before and strangely stops at the picture rail. Everything in the Frieze is fine so your explanation may be the reason!
Good looking job lads a handy trick is to put the shoes over the end gables so when the kids (the lads) are messing about it doesn't pop the screws 🤦♂️🔨
The Zeta is better for cabinet work.
I’ve heard lots of good things about Lamello and am quite interested in trying one out.
@@jimichip There is definitely a place in the workshop for both but for cabinet work, I love the Lamello.
What screws did you use when assembling the carcass ?
3.5 x 50mm no particular brand, we go for the thinner gauge as it prevents the MDF from splitting.
@@jimichip thanks for taking the time to reply, in the past I've used confirmat screws in mdf and was extremely impressed how well they hold. They act as a dowel and a screw in one , using the correct confirmat drill bit makes it much easier.
@@peterfido8735 sounds interesting, I’ll look into them. Thanks.
I use confirmat screws when putting carcases together. Great hold no glue req
Love to see a video of that blum hinge jig in action. I assume it would work on built in washing machine furniture doors where the hinge holes don't line up and you need drill a new one half over the old one?
We have more footage on this that somehow didn't get to the edit. We will look at the Blum cutter. It was filmed
It does work in that situation and is perfect for it.
@@SkillBuilder Wurth make an excellent jig as well for cutting the holes. I have used one for years, not cheap though. I must admit I prefer to do all of that donkey work back in the workshop and just assemble and fit in the house.
Some Barnet that james
Winter is on the way!
The birds will need somewhere to nest
I thought this tool was a biscuit plunger? or similar
It's more a slot morticer. The dominios as they call em are the tennons. It does the same as a biscuit just fancier. And being festool, 10x more expensive.
I've been thinking about setting up a camera in the kitchen, too. I need to know if he caught the Ferrero Rocher thief.
The kids found the camera before I could catch the thief!😂
Let the kids have the chocolate!
We buy them chocolate all the time but mums chocolate belongs to mum. Saying that, they finished them off anyway 😂
Hi James
They need to work for their chocolate, take the dog for a walk, do the washing up. My Dad used to bring home one of those Cadbury's Mini Milk trays where you get individual chocolate bars about a third of the size of a matchbox. There were six kids and we got one each if we had been good all week. That was all the chocolate I ever saw as a kid until I worked out how to remove the front off a vending machine. The reason you no longer see chocolate vending machines at underground stations anymore is due to kids like me.
@@SkillBuilder also the reason you see lots of spoiled kids around!😂
Couldn’t just by a larder and put two end panels with a door
We could’ve done but it wouldn’t have been the 735mm that was required in this position to fit next to the 420mm open shelving unit that the client asked for. It also would’ve been a lot higher than the picture rail that we were working to. So in this situation bespoke cut panels were the winner.
Strange way to put the carcases together, stick the dominoes in the shelf rather than the sides, much easier. Get yourself a Domiplate too or make your own, speeds up carcase building 👍
The other geezer is a ringer for Robert Pires.
😂😂😂
Looks like something leaching through the plaster.
For sure but what?
@@SkillBuilder Rising Damp 😅
Looks like oil got into the plaster mix somehow...🤔🤔
It’s definitely something that was on the wall previously as it stops at the picture rail and there is a perfect rectangle with no spots where the old radiator used to be. There is also a couple of patches on two of the other walls but nowhere near the amount on that one.
I have seen something similar in plaster when someone threw a bit of bacon rind in a bucket we mixed in. The grease makes it go all funky 👍
😂😂😂 who throws bacon rind into the mix!
The client has just brought you in a bacon sandwich but there is a bit of rind in there. You know what will happen if you put the rind in the bin rather than the food recycling, World War 3 will break out. Stick it in the mix.
@@SkillBuilder 😂 don’t forget my dad was a butcher so we had to eat all of the meat even the rind!
The ferrero rocher camera, genius! lol...
They’re only good enough for the ambassador (my wife)!
@@jimichip When I was a kid my sister came up with the idea of taking the seal off the tin of quality sweets and replacing it with sellotape after we had taken a few sweets each. We probably wouldn't have been caught except for when my mum asked what we were doing I answered "nothing" with a mouth full of sweets :D
@@llljustcallhimdave 😂 we’ve all done it, it’s an age old battle!
Amazon have a good stash of titebond
Thanks Pete, good to know!
Why use screws as well as Dominos? Aren't the dominos enough?
I love my domino too - but get that man a demo of the Lamello Zeta..
don't encourage him to buy more tools. That Zeta is a lovely machine
@@SkillBuilder yes it is 😁
@@noskills9577 lamello look the business and I am keen to get my hands on one but currently my funds are going into replenishing stocks of Ferrero Rocher at home.
@@jimichip got to sort the important things in life first 😀
😊👍
Roger, what do you do day to day, would be interesting to see a day in the life ect 👍
Sleep mostly. I am getting old
@@SkillBuilder Meeeerh, you old git. meeerh. :P
Hope no Dulux paint !!!!!
I hate the noise of impact drivers.......only use them on decking
What's so special about decking?🤷♂️
@@paulmcfadyen689 I just find it easier to drive the screws in.......
Yeah... for a job like this, the impact is overkill... you don't need the extra power.. and they can be noisy alright .. 🙉
Watch out Freebird
Great vid
James get a hair cut or a hair band
😂😂😂
My wife is liking it so it stays for now!
Can’t afford the 1k for a Festool domino!
So why a domino above a normal biscuit joiner. Wasted money on both. I only and always use the biscuit joiner. Faster en more forgiving if I'm 1mm out.
I could be wrong but I was under the impression that a domino acts like a floating tenon, and so provides structural rigidity, whereas a biscuit is more for alignment e.g. when joining multiple boards to make a panel?
You wonder why trades are so expensive?? Someone jas to pay for the £15k of Festools sitting there to assemble a chipboard wardrobe....
Christopher You make a big assumption there. Most tradesmen are cheap. It should cost £300 a day for a carpenter but very few are charging that.
The person paying for those tools is James. You will find that most tradesemen add to their tool kit over years and never charge the customer. If they hire something in such as scaffolding the cost is put on the job but all those expensive tools are not charged for which is wrong from a business point of view because they allow the job to be done a lot faster, and the labour cost is therefore reduced.
I know plenty of tradesmen who don't even charge for travelling. Most tradesmen are bad business men and that benefits the customer, they work for wages,, take losses on the chin and sometimes don't even get paid.
Christopher you couldn't be further from the truth.
As has already been said quality tools are bloody expensive, as is running a van and insurance everyrhing else that goes into running a business as a tradesman. Ive always said that a part of training/ apprenticeships should be a recognised course in running a small buisiness, covering all aspects of finance etc.
I wish I'd taken such a course, would have saved me a lot of expensive mistakes and sleepless nights.
Fantastic work again James and thanks Roger for bringing us such great content.
You invest tools to make your job easier, no one else makes a tool like the domino, Christopher would you still moan if James had Mafell and the lamello zeta which are more expensive then festool
What a shame this duo are now gone from Skill Builder.
Hi Nick
I was talking to James, watch this space