Apparently they've never played poker because they always refer to the by the pot Theory. If you out bet the other person you automatically win. Everybody learns the truth of this the first time they sit down to play cards. Kind of like the five Aces theory.
See your 84k.....raise a million....see your million raise five million...see your five million raise infinite money....see your infinite money, raise infinite money times x2
I mean, it's not meant to be taken seriously. Shade is a light hearted action movie. Next, you'll be analyzing how Batman movies are an "epic fail of a law enforcement scene." Looks like the only fail here is your epic fail of a UA-cam comment. 😑
@@TheTerminalExpress third problem...you cannot "buy" a pot anyway... he can still call with what he has access to. This movie pushes the idea that if I put in more than you have, you CANT call, and thereby lose... its a terrible point of this movie.
movies screw up poker so often...the very 1st bet Jamie Foxx makes he say's "see your grand" he can't bet more...that's a string bet...and that's not the worst of this scene
Paul Burnette yea but I mean if he says I’ll see your grand and raise you two he’s basically saying 3,000 I mean he didn’t say it correctly but they’re not really gonna give a shit
That's only partly true. If you say "see your bet... plus" while pushing in money on top of his bet and then that doesn't apply. I've seen somebody try to pull what you're saying at the table and it doesn't fly.
or the lack of an "all in" rule, or slow rolling with 4 jacks... Movies basically have a "break every poker etiquette rule known to man" cliche, eh? lol
@kieku87 Do you publish books about cheaters and hustlers? By the way, is there any good novel about card cheat and hustlers? I have read the Tony Valentine series, but it was not that good.
Dude had to be nervous for a tad bit when he mentioned his 4 girlfriends .he probably thought he was gonna say they were all Queens .sigh of huge relief when he said 10's
It's incredible how bad the poker is in movies.. obviously the director, screenwriter and everyone else involved have never been in a poker room to witness a real game. Probably based their research on old western movies.
@jasonloseefu I dont write or publish books. I havent even thing about publish anything but maybe some day in far future I may write something. By novel, do you mean fictional tales about cheaters and hustlers? I am searching such books myself.
@kieku87 the magician and the cardsharp, and, it's based on a true story, dai vernon and charlie miller(that's how the characters in the movie got the name) are searching for a man who knows how to deal from the center of the deck...
This is not a poker movie, this is a movie about card mechanics. Im a poker player and a magician/card shark myself and to me this movie is the best movie about card mechanics.
@kieku87 For fictional tales about cheaters and hustlers, I recommend Tony Valentine series. The only reason I recommend it is because it is the only 'con fiction' books I found. The series has some interesting concept about cheating on blackjack and poker, but the main plot is somewhat terrible in my opinion. It is still better than nothing though.
now I dont play much 5 card draw, but why would you only draw 1 with trip 10s? wouldnt the only thing you're going for be quad 10s? or full house but drawing 2 doesnt change those odds... but drawing 1 cuts your odds of getting quads in half or am i missing something.
BossGambler I've been playing 5 card draw Poker for years ..it's real simple if you have 3 of a kind or 2 pair a pro would draw only one card hoping for either a full house or 4 of a kind.. Winning Hands ..I've done what Jamie Foxx's character did plenty times at the card table when I had a 2 pair or 3 of a kind ..and came out with full houses and 4 of a kind .it's too much of a risk drawing one card to get a flush or a straight .. usually another player can tell if you are trying for a flush or a straight because u take a while thinking if you wanna go for I card
trip is already a very strong hand even if you don't hit your draw, and there is very small chance of getting full house or quad, so drawing only one card is a way of hiding the strength of your hand in order to get paid if your opponent has two pairs, instead of drawing 2 cards that would be like screaming "I have trips".
@kieku87 Agreed, from what I've heard it's excellent/realistic re. card mechanics. Above=VERY stylish scene. Also VERY BAD scene, poker-wise. All the see it, raise bull$hit, standard film depictions of poker. Table stakes, lol bad. Also some would argue that with TTTK3 he should be taking 2 cards to fill up or hit quads (6% chance to draw a pair + 2 outs twice ~5 = 11% chance to improve, while taking 1 card = 2 outs once = just 5% chance to improve... but drawing 2 screams "trips!" so idk.
That's the point of NO LIMIT......if your opponent goes "ALL IN" don't re raise, or he will put a billion dollar check and you will have to shut your ass. Still, the movie is about a stage to take Foxx's money, and they were driving him into betting the cash.
_String bet_ " I *see* your grand" _then says_ "and I raise you two grand daddies. How do you like that?" *he deserves to lose* He shoulda called, it was the first fuckin hand
String bets and tells. Table stakes. No new money out of pocket during a hand.After Any player declares All in, the remaining players play for a side pot also.
string bets, adding money, if you cant cover the bet you automatically lose, weird betsizings, this is like nails on a chalkboard for any real poker player...
Yeah, every time you have a shit hand and the guy bets, just say 10M if you are rich and know the other guy only has 100K hahahha. Elon Musk would beat most of the people in the world just buy saying I’m all-in $170B
If he doesn't have enough chips to call your bet you don't automatically win, you pull back the extra chips you have and the other person is all in if he calls. Who writes these scenes? A guy thinks he wins cause he has more chips than the other guy?
Christ almighty, it's like I'm sittin here playing cards with my brother's kids or somethin.
@Daniel Pruitt Classic !
@Soahc Live Classic!
U would prolly still be losing in that game
You nerve rackin' sumbitches
Epic line bro, lol. 😂😂😂😂
Im convinced that besides Rounders, every Hollywood film never bothered to ask a poker player the rules.
Yeah, this is BS. It’s table stakes. All in is all in even on no limit.
Apparently they've never played poker because they always refer to the by the pot Theory. If you out bet the other person you automatically win. Everybody learns the truth of this the first time they sit down to play cards. Kind of like the five Aces theory.
When he said " i had 4 girlfriend in my life " the other guy with his 4 jacks could be affraid about four queens for a moment
No, this was a set up the whole time. They were scamming Jaime fox in this scene.
Then I guess those 4 Kings are gonna be irratre.
@@jordanhefley7365 I loved the end when the 2 scammers got scammed by the card mechanic and Stallone
- A man with style is man that can smile
- You should come out with a rap album
LMAO
A man with style is a man who can smile, when is shorts are too tight in his seat!...Ted Knight (Caddyshack)
you dont think fox gave anything away with his facial and body expressions????? my god why dosen't he just announce what he had...........
Can't be all loosey goosey at the table.....
See your 84k.....raise a million....see your million raise five million...see your five million raise infinite money....see your infinite money, raise infinite money times x2
new 100% wining poker strategy : make a string bet higher than vilain stack = insta win
epic fail of a poker scene
By his tells or the whole thing
I mean, it's not meant to be taken seriously. Shade is a light hearted action movie. Next, you'll be analyzing how Batman movies are an "epic fail of a law enforcement scene." Looks like the only fail here is your epic fail of a UA-cam comment. 😑
Shove in and guess the count by feel. Riiight.
They had to go with the "no table stakes" angle to make the plot work
They tend to make their own rules in poker movies. For sure they've never hired somebody that's ever played poker in their life
What is this. Don't they have a rule about Table Stakes or something? Like, no betting money that's not on the table...?
Yup literally every game everywhere outside of the movies plays table stakes. Otherwise you could “buy the pot” in every hand lol
Wild west rules; no limit is NO limit.
Movie rules
@@persereikanen6518 oh yeah? I bet infinity plus infinity then
@@Interdiffusion ok, do you have the money?
@funnyworldwide shaun i still remember watching this for the first time w/ u at the condo in myrtle beach! congrats again ! great job man always!
I call your bet............and raise you my car and my house - what a stupid poker scene
Yup, no way you can bet more than you have at the table unless others agree to it, hollywood BS.
It’s called no table stakes.
@@BigAL0074 no limit..
1st problem: nobody plays 5-card draw. 2nd problem: multiple string bets.
@@TheTerminalExpress third problem...you cannot "buy" a pot anyway... he can still call with what he has access to. This movie pushes the idea that if I put in more than you have, you CANT call, and thereby lose... its a terrible point of this movie.
When the script writers only know poker from bud spencer & terrence hill movies.
HE CALLED WITH 4 J'S HONEY
HONEY I EAT HONEY EVERYDAY. HONEY I NEED HONEY TO BE THE HONEY. HONEY HONEY HONEY HONEY.
I know puddin
Nice Phil Hellmuth “
Now THIS is s real hustle... From the playbook
I really like the movie.
I just imagine I’m looking at different cards lol.
Paul Wilson!!!!!! My IDOLLLL
Does any old school poker movie have the "all in" rule? I guess not, every single pot has extra money put in where someone tries to buy it, lol
"this money is not the money im trying to bet with".....sums up this shit movie
0:45 thumbs up for paul wilson
Never seen a movie poker scene done accurately. Not once ever.
ilovebrandnewcarpets Rounders does a good job of trying
rounders is comedy poker. Its not real or accurate.
tehf00n "does a good job of trying"
Mississippi Grind? Although is Texas hold'em
tehf00n and what does rounders get wrong smart guy?
movies screw up poker so often...the very 1st bet Jamie Foxx makes he say's "see your grand" he can't bet more...that's a string bet...and that's not the worst of this scene
Paul Burnette yea but I mean if he says I’ll see your grand and raise you two he’s basically saying 3,000 I mean he didn’t say it correctly but they’re not really gonna give a shit
In the old days it was common to say "I see your bet and raise X" but now days that's a big no no.
Internet poker dudes think poker was invented the year they opened they poker stars account.
That's only partly true. If you say "see your bet... plus" while pushing in money on top of his bet and then that doesn't apply. I've seen somebody try to pull what you're saying at the table and it doesn't fly.
man who doesn't play his cards close to his chest is a man who gets his cards looked at
HONEY! HE CALLED WITH 4 JACKS!!! RIDICULOUS!!!!!
So if the other guy bets 1 milion and the other guy doesnt have that much, he just loses? Thats pretty stupid.
the rules are not like that in the reality .
That's old school rules.
Yeah, that's retarded. All you have to do Is be the richest one at the table to win.
Thats the rules in A Big Hand for the Little Lady
Wild west rules; no limit is NO limit.
Paul from the Real Hustle. Just the person for the part
0:46 Paul-"im out(Alex! where are you?!!!)"
String raising like this would never happen in the real world.
or the lack of an "all in" rule, or slow rolling with 4 jacks... Movies basically have a "break every poker etiquette rule known to man" cliche, eh? lol
f'real... this is fantasy poker... like, no-limit-Texarkana-five-card-stud?!
It's terrible! The richest guy could just win every hand.
One question.
How do you count chips that aren't stacked?
Oh hey, Mark Boone Junior! Lt. Flass from Batman Begins.
Did the writers base this entire scene off of trying to cram in those two horrible puns?
anybody who has ever played poker knows how ridiculous this vid is,
Not ridiculous when playing plo. NOTHING is ever good except the stone cold nuts
@@jerzeyboi_fishing8437 he’s referring to the poker play... string bets, pulling cash out of pocket, etc
@@troylee5273 this ain't a casino...
Who the hell plays 5 Card Draw these days except for cliche Hollywood Movies!?
All I know about poker is that you shouldn't take tips about poker from movies. They'll misinform you every time.
@kieku87 Do you publish books about cheaters and hustlers? By the way, is there any good novel about card cheat and hustlers? I have read the Tony Valentine series, but it was not that good.
"a little cab fare, there ya go" ☠
Mark Boone, Jr.
Jamie Foxx has a terrible poker face in this lol
That poker scene was so fkg stupid I was hoping Omar from The Wire would've busted in to rob it.
@kieku87 So do you cheat often? Or do you catch cheaters?
@1:00 Edward Nagame traveled back in time to play a high stakes home game???
@jasonloseefu Thanks, I try to find those books.
Dude had to be nervous for a tad bit when he mentioned his 4 girlfriends .he probably thought he was gonna say they were all Queens .sigh of huge relief when he said 10's
It's incredible how bad the poker is in movies.. obviously the director, screenwriter and everyone else involved have never been in a poker room to witness a real game. Probably based their research on old western movies.
IT WAS A JOKE!-Armenian Jamie Foxx
Lulz
Well played.
What a piece of shit that guy was. Im all in, no i was joking
This reminds me of the Le Chiffre slow roll in Casino Royale when he had 4 Jacks as well and as he turned his cards over his reply was oops
String betting all scene long.
That was a string bet.
Several of them.
The way it happens in the movie is definitely a string bet. Only one person at the table didn't do a string bet.
@jasonloseefu I dont write or publish books. I havent even thing about publish anything but maybe some day in far future I may write something. By novel, do you mean fictional tales about cheaters and hustlers? I am searching such books myself.
Love this Scene...its a totally smooth con
Do movie directors have no concept of basic poker rules.
@kieku87 the magician and the cardsharp, and, it's based on a true story, dai vernon and charlie miller(that's how the characters in the movie got the name) are searching for a man who knows how to deal from the center of the deck...
Juanda had trips!
indeed he did!
twips in fact
A hint is the dude from the real hustle is sitting on his right 😂😂 The card mechanic that rigged poker games to demonstrate how to do it
al que puede bajar la pelicula completa
This might be the worst poker scene ever
This is not a poker movie, this is a movie about card mechanics. Im a poker player and a magician/card shark myself and to me this movie is the best movie about card mechanics.
@kieku87 For fictional tales about cheaters and hustlers, I recommend Tony Valentine series. The only reason I recommend it is because it is the only 'con fiction' books I found. The series has some interesting concept about cheating on blackjack and poker, but the main plot is somewhat terrible in my opinion. It is still better than nothing though.
Any one else see him knock over the pack of cards only to see them magically stacked right after the jump cut.
I always thought you can’t say I call and raise. Once you say call
Dealer is from poker stars.
Willie Beamen has a gambling problem.
Lol what an epic fail of a poker scene
Jesus, he was a tell box . And drawing one ? ..
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@jasonloseefu I practise and study card cheating. I dont cheat myself. I do however lectures about card cheating, hustling and so on.
lucky bill gates wasnt playing
friend of the director
3:51 0.25= Drunk Willie Beaman wants a refund
Just realized this scene is influenced by a scene from House of Games
Here comes elon musk to the table. I bet a billion
now I dont play much 5 card draw, but why would you only draw 1 with trip 10s? wouldnt the only thing you're going for be quad 10s? or full house but drawing 2 doesnt change those odds... but drawing 1 cuts your odds of getting quads in half or am i missing something.
He drew 1 card hoping for a full house ..he got lucky and Drew an extra 10
BossGambler I've been playing 5 card draw Poker for years ..it's real simple if you have 3 of a kind or 2 pair a pro would draw only one card hoping for either a full house or 4 of a kind.. Winning Hands ..I've done what Jamie Foxx's character did plenty times at the card table when I had a 2 pair or 3 of a kind ..and came out with full houses and 4 of a kind .it's too much of a risk drawing one card to get a flush or a straight .. usually another player can tell if you are trying for a flush or a straight because u take a while thinking if you wanna go for I card
trip is already a very strong hand even if you don't hit your draw, and there is very small chance of getting full house or quad, so drawing only one card is a way of hiding the strength of your hand in order to get paid if your opponent has two pairs, instead of drawing 2 cards that would be like screaming "I have trips".
@kieku87 Agreed, from what I've heard it's excellent/realistic re. card mechanics.
Above=VERY stylish scene. Also VERY BAD scene, poker-wise. All the see it, raise bull$hit, standard film depictions of poker.
Table stakes, lol bad.
Also some would argue that with TTTK3 he should be taking 2 cards to fill up or hit quads (6% chance to draw a pair + 2 outs twice ~5 = 11% chance to improve, while taking 1 card = 2 outs once = just 5% chance to improve... but drawing 2 screams "trips!" so idk.
Yeah the whole "buying the pot" structure was a bit beyond belief for me. Bill gates would win every pot. I still loved the movie though.
That's the point of NO LIMIT......if your opponent goes "ALL IN" don't re raise, or he will put a billion dollar check and you will have to shut your ass.
Still, the movie is about a stage to take Foxx's money, and they were driving him into betting the cash.
jamie foxx is hilarious when playing cards
3:42 PWNED IN THE FACE!
Cómo se llama la película?
A lot of string bets😅😅😅
How many poker rules are broken in this scene?
SmilingKnight 5 different rules broken
String bets, add-on during the hand :D
so many movies butcher poker
it's not that hard to make an accurate scene lol
Accurate scenes are boring though.
The black guy hold his cards so the next chap can see his hand.
I Decline 9s..I only Bang 10s..18 to 21..
which reminds me, I gotta pull that 125$k out of my back pocket and put in the the safe for safe keeping
They never appear to hold 2s 3s 4s and 5s or much else?????
Isn't the guy in the white suit F. Murray Abraham? Why isn't he listed as in this movie on IMDB?
Not FMA. An actor named Tony Amendola. www.imdb.com/name/nm0024593/
marker is good if your not playing table chips only
_String bet_ " I *see* your grand" _then says_ "and I raise you two grand daddies. How do you like that?"
*he deserves to lose*
He shoulda called, it was the first fuckin hand
Bet 2. Raise 12. Reraise 17. Reraise 82. Call with JJJJ.
String bets and tells. Table stakes. No new money out of pocket during a hand.After Any player declares All in, the remaining players play for a side pot also.
0:22/0:40/0:44/1:33 Matt Damon needs to teach Jamie Foxx about Poker tells.
Wooo That is A lot of money to loose
string bets, adding money, if you cant cover the bet you automatically lose, weird betsizings, this is like nails on a chalkboard for any real poker player...
Yeah, every time you have a shit hand and the guy bets, just say 10M if you are rich and know the other guy only has 100K hahahha. Elon Musk would beat most of the people in the world just buy saying I’m all-in $170B
@@michaelwou1667 easy game
This is a classic poker movie.....Not as good as Rounders, but pretty bloody close.
said no one ever - I did enjoy it though
If he doesn't have enough chips to call your bet you don't automatically win, you pull back the extra chips you have and the other person is all in if he calls. Who writes these scenes? A guy thinks he wins cause he has more chips than the other guy?
I agree..total BS I've seen this sh$t in more then 1 movie
So much easier for movies to make crazy bad beat poker scenes if they play 5 card draw, games stupid dont play it. Stick to holdem.
'95 WSOP Main Event Champion Dan Harrington said that Hold'em is the purest form of poker.
only form of poker worth playing
Only form worth playing my arse....holdem was made to make a form easy to understand for your average American (lol)
The worst, Hollywood doing poker scenes!
Poker would be pretty different if you had to fold when some guy pulled $85k out of his... somewhere.
Rob Marks won the game anyways
I enjoyed this movie when it came out... But this scene was really hard to watch. I assume the rest of the movie is this bad.
pretty much , an awful organ removal scene was particularly dire to watch....
IOU hahahahah!!!!
wouldn't buy this for $5
0:45/1:33 Worst Poker Expression tell movie and real life