Simagic's new Sequential Shifter | Simagic Q1 | First Impressions
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- Опубліковано 8 лип 2024
- This week I got my hands on this epic sequential shifter! LISTEN TO IT!!!
Note that this is NOT a review! This is simply a “thinking out loud” first impressions video. Do not treat this as a well researched and extensive ‘review’. A full review will follow in th coming weeks.
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Correction, it's an LED screen of course. I read that it was LCD but as you can see in the video, I knew it was an LED screen. SORRY!
Start: 0:00
Introduction: 0:33
Unboxing: 2:18
Installation: 8:47
Buttons & Screen: 15:14
First Drive: 16:51
Rallycross: 19:36
Adjustment: 26:17
Final Thought: 28:42
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This is NOT a review. This is simply me filming my first impressions, and an uneducated and un-researched look at a product through the eyes of a consumer. I expect to make mistakes and potentially give false assumptions. The discussion, questions and corrections in the comments section will help to shape the content of the proper full review, which will follow in the coming weeks. Thanks for watching!
Adjustment of the resistance was done completely incorrectly in this video. The full review will cover this properly.
It is of course an LED gear indicator. LCD was on my mind due to other conversations. This is an unscripted and unprepared video.
Hell yea brother! You can always count on Laurence to deliver with an unbiased review! The Simagic community loves u bro.
Cheers David! Very kind words! I see no benefit in being biased as it is misleading. Consumers will be quick to correct you so you need to be objective and honest. I do like Simagic products though. They seem to be making a lot of great hardware and challenging the norm. They’re actually surpassing many household names in sim racing and making themselves relevant. Pretty exciting times.
@@LaurenceDusoswa I agree wholeheartedly with your assessment, and that is the exact type of thinking that we value, to just get rid of all preconceptions and take a clear look at the products in front of you.
I’m sold and just ordered one 😁 will have it probably Tuesday 💪
Thx for the awesome preview bro 🤛
Great video as always ❤️
Hahaha yeah it’s something that would look great on your rig :) thanks for watching! You’ll love the shifter!
Also, everyone who reads this needs to subscribe to your channel! They won’t regret it ❤️
@@LaurenceDusoswa I can’t wait to ha e this mate 😃
It's looks amazing! Great video Sr!
Thanks! :)
I love this shifter but purchased it for £300 from a friend who had it less than a 4 months and used it maybe a few times so was like new. The main reason for getting it was down too its feel but more than that was the look. The leds buttons and the led screen even if not useful it still looks great with my triple screen set up and all my led button boxes and led button cube control wheels so fits in perfectly.
Great review as always! That gear indicator desync was throwing me off LOL
Hahaha I know! I’d prefer to turn it off 😅😅😅
@@LaurenceDusoswa did you actually setup the shifter thru the simagic software? There is a video showing how to setup the shifter right so that may cause the miss shift?
Having the additional buttons is what appeals to me most with this shifter. Means I could set my permanent buttons on the shifter and not have to worry about the different layouts when I switch wheels. Also the double USB, one of the things I dislike about the Newt is the placement of the USB port, I'm always hitting the lead sticking out of the side of it.
Yeah it is super handy for resetting to the pits or lights or whatever. The USB ports are handy but could still be placed better I feel. It’s a really cool product
awesome review ! thank you : D
You’re very welcome :) full review is yet to come though ;)
Great 1st impressions. Raceroom does have an assignment for a neutral button. I use it often so that one on the shifter would be very handy for me :)
Thanks! Yeah I need to spend some time with R3E!
just ordered one looks amazing !
nice one!
Great review. I really wish the gear indicator light was in sync with the game and you could map the neutral button as neutral and the other program button as hazard lights. I think it would be helpful getting back on the road after a crash. I think I really want this anyway, it's so cool. Thanks for the video
Yeah the sync thing is a real problem unfortunately :( the idea is really cool and if you never mis-shift, you won’t notice any issues. But I encountered the issue almost instantly. It’s a super cool bit of kit and the innovation being shown here is very very welcome.
Looks like a nice piece of hardware! That screen looked like a gimic, but it really is bad that it desynchs. I think we had a chat in VC with some of the guys about maybe it fully glowing bright red when you hit the rev limit? That you can maybe see it glowing red?
Currently it's just one of those things that look cool when you buy the product, but then you would never pay attention to it. Otherwise great build quality and everything.
And as always: great editing, great position of shots and framing!
Thanks so much! The new camera equipment is definitely helping! I will relay the feedback. A simhub interface would be amazing. Then you could customise as much as you want. The build quality is incredible
Savage review Laurence
Cheers Phelan! It’s a cool bit of kit
This looks pretty cool and a nice bit of kit.
Yeah it’s really nice. I’m glad to see some innovation and a company trying to do something different while still producing a very very good sequential shifting experience.
The shifter seems nice quality and used materials, the meaty and loud click is probably really immersive when playing - however, the loudness could probably also be an immediate problem for some people where noise is a concern and seems like there's no good in-between to achieve here.
There's not much you can expect out of a sequential shifter and it seems most of them out there meet the expectations, so it's really easy to nitpick on the smaller things, and this shifter seems to have a handful. The gear display is cool and the fact it doesn't rely on software seems like great idea at first, but one mis-shift later, it's all out of sync with no quick way to fix it. Additionally it's also in a place you never look at during a race, so you can't even get any information out of it, you just drive with the knowledge in your head that there's a little gear display you can't see and it's definitely out of sync - seems like ocd nightmare 😂
No display at all would probably be a better choice, or even better - have one or two buttons more in its place. It's a shame about the fourth button that you can't bind as well.
Overall seems like it's still a great sequential shifter that gets the basics right and it tries to offer a little bit more than others, but with a bit odd result.
All great observations! I have played with the adjustment and I think I’m able to find a good middle ground now.
Thanks for your amazing comment yet again. I genuinely feel that comments like yours carry a huge amount of weight and really help people to make their own decisions. It encourages discussion and often shows that my opinions are just that, and may not be the same as everyone else’s. More opinions makes for more informed decisions :)
I already own it, feels so realistic 👍
It's great, isn't it? :)
Cracking review :) Looks like a lovely peice of kit, and all the functional stuff looks top notch! shame about the gear indicator desyncing, I know it's there purely for show but just knowing it could be wrong would annoy me haha
Yeah it’s pretty annoying! It cheapens the whole thing a little
Looks a nice bit of kit thanks for the review
Full review is yet to come! These are just my first impressions but hope they give people enough to know if it’s potentially for them or not :)
@@LaurenceDusoswa ahh yes of course... Looking forward to the Alpha mini review.... Even though I already ordered one
@@TheWowcol yeah I’m nearly finished that! Hoping to finish it soon!
nice 1st look vid Laurence impressive bit of kit compared to pro sim price wise
Yeah it really is. Great to see some innovation in the space too!
Great review mate. Pity about the display / mis-shift issue but maybe Simagic will address that.
yep! A little birdy tells me that that may be adressed in future ;)
Laurence: "This is NOT a review."
Me: Great review! 👍👍👍 😅
hahaha thanks i guess :p full review coming soon ;)
Great video as always. Just wondering if they fix the syncing issue now and the gear indicator is software controlled?
Nope! Still not fixed and no idea if/when it will be. I have been delaying my review because I think it’s a critical piece of functionality
Just a couple tips:
Adjustment is done via the center bolt, using an Allen key. The jam nut and cylinder housing should remain untouched.
You can also reverse/flip the LCD display, for users who want to mount the shifter 180 degrees from your setup.
When connected to the Can-Bus port on the wheelbase, the shifter will power ON and OFF with the base unit.
A setup guide can be found here:
ua-cam.com/video/2Pgse71daT4/v-deo.html
Thanks for the review.
Hey man! Cheers! This isn’t a review, it’s a first impressions “thinking out loud” style video to show my thoughts rather than give actual information. I’ll try to adjust it with a hex key.
Flipping the orientation is possible yeah. I can’t see anyone running it in flipped orientation though as the buttons and screen become somewhat obstructed by the lever and not as accessible. I’m yet to try it in that orientation so could be wrong.
Can-bus makes no real difference for me because my wheelbase never turns off either. The power switch is in an awkward place on the mains adapter. I need to buy the emergency stop, really.
Thanks for the detail as usual!
For the price I’m happy with my small but smooth/quiet/fast shifting Heusinkveld sequential.
Yeah I reviewed one about a year ago. It’s a decent shifter, nice and compact too.
@@LaurenceDusoswa I know, your review was the reason I bought it. Lol. Great content!
Thanks for this first look LD. I am still very interested in this even with the syncing issue. I currently use the Aiologs sequential shifter, do you think it’s worth the upgrade. I’m very happy with them but sometimes wish for a bit more tactile click and feeling. Love from Canada eh!
The feedback is incredible! Syncing issue may be solved with software in future :) I don’t have enough experience with the aiologs to advise you to be honest 😅
When ever you do the full review, it would be nice to know if you can plug it into the Simagic wheel base to save a USB spot on the PC. Thanks again for you videos and will soon have the same shift setup as you.
I'll keep you posted :)
damn that shifter looks hella good
It really does. Performs great too
Hi again! You think that problem with the gear sequence will be sorted? I would find it a bit annoying to be in gear 2 and it’s saying something else.
I am trying to clarify with Simagic
My wife is going to be thrilled with that 🤣
Keep us posted 😅😅😅
I bought one 8ths ago. It gets used most days for less than an hour per session. (Probably about max 2 hours per week use). It stopped functioning, Ie the mechanical gear element of it stopped working in downshifts. The supplier has told me to send it back to be repaired, not replaced.
Ordered mine the other day. Waiting for it to ship
Nice! Where from?
@@LaurenceDusoswa SimRacingPro
Was only $389 with the 120mm handle and no tax or shipping.
If I had headphones on, do you still get that tactile feel shifting up and down while at it’s quietest setting?
no, at the quietest setting it is just a spring that returns it to center. you'll get a clunk at the end of the travel where it hits the bump stop but you wont get the nice mechanism that makes it feel like your shift did something
That amount of noise would bug the crap out of me. It need some sort of damper so you can lower the noise but keep the feel.
think that is what the white ball is for. swap out with the metal one in the unit to make it quieter. i could be wrong but makes sense to me.
That does make sense @shiraz and I’m definitely going to have a good read of the manual
@@shirazdada1722 the one inside is plastic but wears out this is why we have a spare
Would appreciate a review on the seat you use. I’m really interested in one but I don’t know of any sim racing reviews of the seat.
It’s on my list of things to review 😂
@@LaurenceDusoswa Waiting like patients on a monument.
Curious if you still own this, and if they've fixed any of the issues,
I came after searching for a way to add haptic feedback to my HE Ultimate + Pedals after missing them, like you, from my CSL V3's.
I appreciate the honest first impressions...
Curious if SimMagic ever managed to fiix this? Also, can this be used as your only simmagic product?
yes they have addressed the screen issues. I have a long term review on the way in the coming months. I've just been swamped with other reviews lately. This can be used as a standalone USB product in combination with any other products and brands.
@@LaurenceDusoswa thanks for the reply!
Hi nice review but I think your not supposed to loosen the big nut to adjust the tension. It looks like a spring ball plunger that you should just use a hex key to adjust it with.
Yeah I’ll try that. I didn’t want to go into too much detail and only really watched the little setup guide which doesn’t show the tension adjustment. At least, I didn’t come across it :) this wasn’t a review. This was an first impressions view through the eye of someone who just bought one, rather than an informational or factual review. That’s coming in a few weeks when I have used it extensively ;)
@Jonas correct you just use the provided Alan key too turn in or out the grub screw and that is where the plastic white ball goes where you would need to put the one they gave us as a spare.
Link for the button box in the background?
Does it seem much better sequential than the VNM with v.2 plate? Thanks
It is better, yes. I don’t think it’s MUCH better though.
On Sim Motion there are two versions, standard and extended. Which do you have? I'm bit confused with this :D
Nice video btw!
The extended is just a larger shift knob. I have the shorter one in this video. The longer knob looks slightly different too
Has there been any updates inbetween that does the LED make synchronised to the sim?
Yes!
@@LaurenceDusoswa wow really? That would improve the shifter a lot. Is it controlled by the simagic software or maybe by simhub? Thank you
Awesome
Pretty cool, isn’t it?! It’s a great time for sim racing!
Hello, do you have the driver download for the shifter?
On the Simagic website
Do you need a clutch on the pedal when you have this shifter or its not necessary?
nope. usually you don't need a clutch for sequential shifting
@@LaurenceDusoswa thanks cause i wanted to buy this shifter for a long time
A really good explanation! Nice looking shifter and wondering, whats the price?
The price is €399. So it’s not cheap but it’s definitely a similar quality to many premium top end products. This isn’t a toy :)
Found the for $360 with 78mm handle and $389 for 120mm handle.
could you possibly atleast think about trying out the srs sequential shifter
I would Love to try one out and review it but the companies need to be interested in sending me one. It helps when people contact companies and ask them to send me one for review.
Hey mate is the shift lights not syncing with the game fixed ?
Yes that’s fixed
@@LaurenceDusoswa awesome what about the N button can you use that in game aswell?
@@WreckageMG only in games that support a neutral input.
Looks incredible, I wish it was possible to use on PS5 with my fanatec stuff.
Yeah it doesn’t look like console support is coming any time soon
Hey, can I ask what company made your H-shifter? Never seen that one before.
Nevermind, didn't finish watching!
Haha you found what you needed? It’s the VNM shifter ;)
can u review the pedals?
I would love to but it depends on a couple of things. Firstly, they’re not actually out yet. And secondly, I would need a company to send me a set as I cannot afford to buy all the hardware I review :) these videos make about €20 for 10,000 views so it simply wouldn’t make economic sense to buy all the hardware I review 😂 this is a hobby for me. You can help by asking your distributor or the companies who make products, to send me a review sample. Thanks!
its a nice looking bit of kit Laurence but IMHO quite expensive 🤔
It's not cheap but once you hold it you'll feel that it's worth it
@Laurence Dusoswa you need to make a comment as your were making a mistake which could lead too problems for people.
At the end when you show undoing the nut to give more or less tension was wrong. Your not supposed too undo that nut and turn the whole thing you should you the big silver Alan key they provided and you just move the grub screw in and out for tension. You also got a plastic white ball if you take the grub screw out that is where the ball would go when the first one fails.
Just thought you needed to know as this could lead people to mess the mechanism up.
Cheers
This is just a first impressions video and loosening that whole bolt does no harm. I actually do it all the time to change the loudness of the shifter. Thanks though :)
Could do with a base plate like the aiologs. . Awkward with my th8a.
For profile, I don’t see that being an issue. The shifter is very stable for me
@@LaurenceDusoswa I actually meant a side plate. Because at the moment it takes a huge chunk of the prime slot against the profile. And with a h shifter it really is a compromise. I know there is a better way but the th8a came awkward. Simagic is solid as a rock but it would be nice to have options.
Now time to sell my Aiologs sequential shifter with stock short rod and upgrade long rod and upgraded shifter knob from Aiologs.
I have never used the aiologs so I can’t comment. This thing feels great though!
@@LaurenceDusoswa Aiologs is amazing to.
I just like the look and color goes with my setup better.
Not sure why they made the N Button mappable and then add the gear led lol. Makes no sense. Why not make the Nutral hold the guarded button down for say 5 seconds? Otherwise everytime you use that button your gear indicator will set the gear screen to N makes no sense
It’s because it’s not in sync and it allows you to manually sync it. Some sims allow a neutral button
This thing is amazing but there's no H pattern big deal breaker for me H pattern is all i use Moza hgp for the foreseeable future for me then there are nicer ones but like 750-1000
check out the new simagic h pattern and sequential shifter: ua-cam.com/video/kA-5ZmiGEcw/v-deo.html
Whatever about the shifter, best not stream rallycross soon.
Bahhh hahahaha. Pay no attention to the driving 😂
the only similarity to that and a quafe is that they are both called shifters.
Ok. You have used both?
@@LaurenceDusoswa You've got to see what I mean... Its like comparing Porsche 911 to a Fiat Punto , yeah effectively the same thing...but... well...you know..
As far as experience goes...I teach the apprentices who do a large portion of the machining on the Pro Sim Quaife system....The Simagic stuff started out with a less than stellar brand image, which I feel will be hard to shift.
Don’t let price be your gauge for how good something is. If I was to receive both units unbranded and unpriced, I would struggle to tell you which is worth more.
@@LaurenceDusoswa Price has zero interest to me tbh, I have a range of sim equipment, from PRE wheels, Ascher wheels to Motomec wheels, HE shifters to 3D printed shifters, I like the £60 Motomec wheel more than the Ascher one..
@@LaurenceDusoswa Out of interest, Did you pay for the shifter ?
1st again :)
No one cares. Means you have no life
@SIM RIG 412 that a little harsh. Hope that’s meant to be a joke.
I care! Love you @Damien McMullen
@@SIMRIG412 are you in the discord group ????
@@SIMRIG412 if i have no life i challenge you to a 3 laps race ???
admit it the Quaife is over price ...this is fairly price for what it offers .
Many would argue that this is still an expensive piece. The quaife is very expensive, yea. This is less than a third of the price!
Many would argue that this is still an expensive piece. The quaife is very expensive, yea. This is less than a third of the price!
Filming this time, too dark and contrasty.
Yeah it was quite dark. Trying to find the right settings still :) thanks for the feedback
@@LaurenceDusoswa no worries! For reviews, you definitely want to be able to see everything clearly. Moody lighting is better for cinematics.
It's a shame the simagic products are so well made materials wise....but the programming or the final fine tuning is never present. They can make this product so much higher value with just a few small tweaks. Almost as if they have a consistent oversight
@@jonathanchung7209 this wasn’t a review ;) full review is still to come.
@@jonathanchung7209 I find that they’re actually quite open to feedback and continuous improvement of software. They are only selling worldwide for the past 1.5 years and have already made quite an impact it seems
Loud like a shot gun 😅
yep hahaha. loud enough to wake the neighbours
Too loud. No buy :(
Yep it’s an issue for some