Yeah and I kinda feel the same way. I think it’s my Ti that is the reason I care about Fe as much as I do, because logically things will tend to be much more efficient and move much more smoothly when harmony is achieved. Take away Fe and what you can end up with is chaos, nothing gets done because people are too busy fighting.
@@Cynical_Socialist YES I agree, I believe I developed my FE for very similar reasons. For me it was that I realized that by not acknowledging the importance of emotion I was being neither logical nor realistic. You cannot claim to see the reality, or truth, of people or a situation if you aren’t including feelings and relationships as an important and very REAL factor. Trying to live and think that way only leads to frustration. This is a personal and possibly erroneous opinion, but I sometimes think that INTP’s who get in the comments of MBTI videos talking like they hate people, they never leave their rooms, they hate work etc. are either A) leaning a bit too much into their type/stereotype, or b) still somewhat young, at least in the sense that they haven’t developed their weaker functions yet.
As an INTP the only quote I’ve ever really felt deep connection with on Leadership is from Lao Tzu “the best leader is one who the people barely know exists, when his work is done, his task fulfilled, the people then say ‘we did it ourselves’”
This was interesting, because being a leader sounds like an absolute nightmare to me as an INTP, so it’s neat to see how others handle it. I’m too much of a control freak when I am actually in charge of something, so I try my best to avoid it as to not stress out myself and piss off other people. I used to work in Mountain View, which is Google land, and always had a pretty positive impression of them, even from people who worked there. As opposed to Apple, which I only heard negative things about. And of course it is lovely to hear Lincoln was an INTP, while not perfect he was rather progressive for his time. Thank you for the video!
I'm much better at organising others than myself so it surprises me I do ok in leadership, but I think it's because I'm not into hierarchical structures, and would never go for a role in leadership but have fallen into it at rare moments (can't say it's my thing though)
Other INTPs include Bill Gates, Oppenheimer, Avicii, Albert Einstein, and Isaac Newton. Being an INTP, I believe, is a gift, and even though we are genius intellectuals, we must learn how to endure and get along with humans, as being a cold and logical robot doesn't solve everything. We humans must learn and embrace emotions and feelings :D
Same 😭 it's funny bc I'm so relaxed by myself (maybe bc I already know how I work) but I was so strict that when I realized I stopped but I became so negligent that they didn't do anything 💀💀
Yes, I think that using Ti to hack Fe is something that a lot of INTPs eventually fall into. It takes a lot of fine tuning, and can be difficult to work out, but in most cases, it does help make dealing with other humans less frustrating.
@@MrBOBhakimipendobombies just invert it. Ni can work like Ti in some senses, just more like a wormhole- if x, y, and/or z occur, they’ll lead to this. If “this” is a bad emotional outcome for you, invert it and don’t do x, y, or z to someone else.
@@Jonas-bn5kc *says you can use better fe if you use morals* “What good would that be?” *cricket noises* Anyway, just because morals are sometimes false and sold to you by people who have no interest in real ones, doesn’t make anything wrong with using them correctly. That doesn’t make any sense. I’d also note that words, like pencils, knives, desks, and chicken sandwiches, can be weapons. It depends how you use them.
@@Jonas-bn5kc “I feel it hacks both Fe and Fi, it is simply…” - you, two comments ago “First of all I haven’t mentioned Fe” *cricket noises* Anyway, no, I suggest by stabbing you with a pencil I have made the pencil into a weapon. Just as by attacking you with a desk I have made the desk a weapon. And by insulting someone with malicious intent you turn words into a weapon. Sheesh, I had hoped you would be the kind of person who observes Ne a bit more when reading what others have to say.
Your explanation of INTP using Fe makes so much sense. As INTP, whenever I make decisions for myself have always been as logic based as I could to weigh each outcome. However when the situation concerns other people, the decision and method I use will usually fall to how they will emotionally respond. Even if it's somthing that I personally feel isn't efficient and more fanfare than I would care for. Like, I care about the cake, not the frosting. But since I know other people like frosting I'll consider it. So for years I felt like I was flip flopping back and forth between Fe and Ti, which kind of annoyed me to be honest. Then I realized that I was actually using Ti to utilize Fe when i felt to me to guide the interaction and converstions with other people.
I'm an INTP serving as Active Duty in the Air Force, been in 8 years and currently hold the rank of Staff Sergeant. Learning how to be a leader despite my weaknesses was a great challenge but I used psychology teachings and analyzed my previous mistakes to construct approaches for each individual I meet one on one. I also have a separate approach for when I need to talk to groups. My intentions were to create relationships that have an open communication and mutual support regardless of rank, a lot of my subordinate enjoyed my leadership and came to me for advice often, and had a superior complement me. But of course I also had those who hated me and accused my work my lazy and nosy.
INTP's stand to benefit the most from military service. You are forced into constant shadow work. The United States Marine Corps is waiting for you when you actually plan on joining the military. If you want to take your shadow work to the next level you can join the infantry, we always need more grunts.
Hello, could you please share your personal info with me so I can contact you. I am currently a cadet in Belgium's military academy (soon to receive my commission as a 2nd lieutenant) and I have a lot of questions about leadership. Thank you.
Ah, the video I've been wishing for. I'm an INTP school student, and I've held several leadership roles at this point. I haven't always succeeded, but I've managed to figure out stuff like using my tendency for analysis to my advantage. Like me being the House captain in my house this year and winning the sports meet. I read Sun Tzu's The Art of War for strategy ideas. For a goddamn sports meet. I've also realized I work a lot better with a time frame someone else had decided on. This means if you give me a team and tell me to win any competition set in a week or something, I can win it in a landslide. But if you give me a team and tell me to make a presentation or something with no deadline, it's never gonna get done. Procrastination is a beast. Any tips on how to manage that, people? My biggest problem has always been communication, and you've given me so many ideas to play with. I guess it's time the dissection laser turned to my language skills. That, and my trust in my fellow -Homo Sapiens- teammates needs to improve. I'm working on all of it though. My ascent as a formidable leader has scarcely begun! _cue evil laugh_
On the subject of procrastination it seems to me that you already understand what works for you and what doesn't. On a purely personal level I find that it is easy, when one has a natural inclination for logical reasoning, to seek a singular "truth", or answer, to ones problems. This isn't always an efficient approach, however. Rather, in my experience, there are many ways to solve most problems if one is willing to re-evaluate and adjust what the actual goal is. Basically, if ones goal is to erase procrastination from life entirely, I would suggest considering what the cause is for this unwanted behaviour and, crucially, how problematic it actually is when put into context. For example, when you are presented by a task with a set deadline you complete it, and when the deadline is unspecified you don't. On first glance this suggests to me that you are either motivated by the increased challenge the deadline adds, or that the added framework helps you narrow down your initial approach to solving the problem at hand, making it easier to engage with. Possibly both. Having clear and defined rules and goals is a universal necessity when asked to achieve specific results. It isn't just up to the person performing the task to make sure they succeed - the person rigging the assignment also has a responsibility in setting them up for success... and to do that they need a full picture. I often find that it usually worth trying to artificially engineer motivation - it isn't some magical force that can be conjured by willpower alone. Motivation and enthusiasm is your body responding to external stimulus by releasing biochemicals to reinforce behaviour. Instead of working against your own nature and trying to create something out of nothing, perhaps you could learn to better recognize what you need to achieve the desired results? If someone asks you to solve a problem, is it more logical to say yes, knowing you will likely procrastinate and not meet expectations (actively swimming against the currents, as explained in this excellent video), or to simply explain what you need to achieve your full potential? It seems to me that whoever asked something of you should be happier, in the end, to spend 10 min rephrasing their assignment rather than end up with lesser results. A good leader plays to their followers strengths, right? I would apologize for the impromptu essay, but I think this was as much for myself as it was for you, lol. I do hope it gave some food for thought, even if I, technically speaking, didn't answer your question. Anyways, good luck!
@@christofferfransson4209 Damnit, how'd I miss this reply for half a year!? Thank you so much for the thoughts, and there's no need to apologise. In a way, I got an answer to my procrastination issue. (The monkey in my brain is stubborn lmao) You talked about playing with the currents instead of against them, and figuring out how my own brain gets motivated might just be what I need to be effortlessly productive. I stumbled on this right around a time when I'm at a crossroads of sorts, needing to figure out what my next move is. I'll definitely chew on what you said and move forward stronger than before. Again, thank you so, so much!
As an INTP I actually like the leadership positions. I have also been sports captain previously. I have a lower Fe but I understand emotions but choose not to act upon them (acting on logic seems more reasonable). I don't relate to INTPs being portrayed so socially awkward most of the time. If I sit alone I'm comfortable and don't act shy who can't respond when a stranger talks. Remember guys that you don't have to fit into the stereotype. MBTI should be used to know your weaknesses and work upon them and understand others better
Stereotypes tend to be ridiculous most of the time anyway. Rather than being a representation of the majority, it ends becoming a model that people fit into to ascertain that they are indeed this MBTI type.
Another way Lincoln serves as a great INTP archetype is by demonstrating that staying home and watching UA-cam is safer than and preferable to going to the theatre.
I like to think Ti makes a person realise the best thing they can do is contribute to society, hence creating Fe. It may be there against my will, but it is there nonetheless, and necessary for any real progress in life.
INTP: Interesting. After many years I realized that people who were emotional natured, did not deserve my disrespect or disdain, or judgement. As I matured, endeavoring to understand that nature created more love and harmony in my relationships. That understanding came through my logic and reason and desire to expand to a broader level of Consciousness and be able to embrace and be more objective about other's human experiences. And in doing that, I can feel more what another person is feeling from a place of understanding compassion. That is a newer experience for me because as an INTP I really was more logical and still am, but I'm able to embrace the emotional more and more as I see the value in it, in me and others. I also can see that there can be instability and irrational behavior when one is subjected to that emotional nature. So I have also learned in observing this,... that one must be cautious about their interactions with the unconscious irrational feeling nature of some humans..... Well almost all humans.... At times. Choosing to endeavor to understand is less cold and judgemental and more warm and embracing. Balancing T and F? Maybe. Using Ti to understand and relate with Fe. Yes
“How can you time your move so perfectly?” this question came to me after observing one intp I know. This video captures that aspect of healthy and successful intps so perfectly… I am glad that I typed him correctly 😎 - infj (now I can predict his moves beforehand sometimes 🙃😎)
Yeah, Lincoln's type can be tricky. He's been described as a ‘man of steel and velvet’ for his seeming dichotomy in personality. I lean toward him being an INTP who made ready use of his shadow functions/ENTJ self when needed... but I've also seen a few INTJs who seem to've achieved similar results, so I could see it going either way.
That's a very INFJ reply when having a "d**k measuring contest" with an INTP. I have an INFJ friend with that exact statement of yours and a perfect copy of using that emoji. Sometimes, we have this "I know you know" replies that makes us having an observation/memory/deduction battle but ridiculous enough to make us intellectual clowns. Idk if he's taking it seriously or not but I'll always conclude it as both, since it always come off as a playful banter while having an ego trip that results in a healthy competition. And we want both to be clever and funny (Ti/Fe on the work). Your kind are always a delight to be with.
I always liked Lincoln's NT/strategic approach to law and government, although the resulting suppression of individual state rights vs federal authority that followed his demise was (and still is) unfortunate. I don't suspect that was his intent, but he was removed from the equation at a critical moment and the people who took power after Lincoln took things in a very different direction compared to what Lincoln himself likely envisioned. Lincoln's MO was more-or-less waiting for the "opportune moment," as Jack Sparrow called it. Losing battles, but winning wars. Clearly, any INTP who takes public office has peculiarities which separate him/her from other INTPs. We don't generally like to take charge or issue orders, and typically avoid authority roles unless circumstances demand otherwise. Lincoln was a unique product of his environment.
First off, "INTP leader" is a bit of an oxymoron as most INTPs abhor being in charge of other people. They call it babysitting. I also disagree with the assertion that INTPs are poor communicators. In truth, they can explain complicated topics with clarity and brilliance.
As an ENTJ, I look forward to the video were you tell everyone what great leaders we are, and how we have such an all present, unshakable ethic surrounding our follo... I mean friends
You guys make better generals than politicians to be honest, it's a leadership role that favours the constant action of Te over the far-reaching visionary policies Ni can bring. Though you're pretty good at both.
@@EresirThe1st Thanks, I'm actually considering politics after my music career. I see plenty of artists and musicians jumping ship all the time, so I don't see why I can't do the same. But I guess I have to start the music stuff first, considering I'm young and haven't actually started at life yet.
I'm an intp and if I'm going to be honest, I do enjoy leading. Not because I get my way-well yes-but besides that (I'm going to sound awful for this), because then I don't have to deal with people who don't know what they're doing jeopardising me. Group work frustrates me so much, and at least when I'm in control we are able to do something, otherwise the times I haven't led, we've all ended up with nothing. Omg there was this one time in school where we were doing something related to flowers and I had put a whole poster together, printed labels, drawn the diagram... (basically everything) and the ONE thing I asked them to do was stick the labels on while I wrote a test (I had been absent). I even opened the book with the diagram to basically copy. Well guess what, I came back from my test and we presented it, during the presentation I looked at the board and realised they stuck the labels in the wrong places... We ended up barely passing, like ffs is it that difficult?? This was literally 4-5 years ago and it still annoys me so much. Recently also, my group didn't work together and ended up having to write seperate things... Turns out we all basically wrote on the same topic omg this is why I want to be a physicist (apart from the fact it's my passion), I don't have to work with people who don't care, if I do, it'll be with people who are in the same industry, studied for years and have the same passion. Anyways this is like my 100th time ranting abt this, and ngl it still feels very good.
@@EresirThe1st just "Lincoln" by David Herbert Donald. Definitely not boring. Actually, sorry that one is 30 hours, my bad. Nathan might be referring to the other one: "Team of Rivals" which is 41 hours long and probably more applicable to this particular topic. Both are fantastic.
My INTP son is turning 12, I’m still not sure what his older brother is but it’s plain as day for him. These principles for how to thrive as a brain person are exciting to learn since I see him struggling in different ways from me as an INTJ. I’m particularly enjoying this series of how each of us can lean into our strengths. Even my small life requires me to pick up leadership roles as a mom, so there aren’t going to be many people who wouldn’t directly benefit from understanding these things. Thanks, Nathan!
INTJs and INTPs get along pretty well, as INTJ/INTP is known as robots. INTJs are Elon Musk and Mark Zuckerberg, which makes sense as both use cold and calculating logic. Your son is lucky he can relate to his parents; I, for one, try to get along with my father, but it's so-so.
@@jimclayson Well, I agree with that, but I assume it has more to do with him and his ego. INTJs are excellent planners and can plan their life ahead by 30 years. This is why Elon was able to invest in companies and make more money from those companies. My only issue is that he tends to get cocky and ends up screwing himself over. Dogecoin, for example, my brother had told me to invest in that currency, but I knew something was strange about it, so I declined. A few years later, it turns out Elon was just trolling people and was hoping people wouldn't invest in his coin; as he said before, he was only trolling people and didn't think anyone would invest in it. That's one reason I'm not inspired by Elon anymore, the guy knows what to do, but he acts like a child half the time.
@@jimclayson If anything, I can name some fictional and non-fictional characters to help understand how Elon could be INTJ, if that makes any sense? Do you read comics, watch anime, or spend time watching TV?
Lincoln has always been one of my favorite leaders. Interestingly, he's one of hubby's favorites, too. Hubby is an INTJ. I'm mostly INTP. Hubby has looked on and been intrigued that my leadership style works. People want to join me in endeavors. Together, we've read biographies of Lincoln, and I definitely relate to him.
Ahhh well, this is the video I really didn't want to see, because this is the type of work I've been avoiding. I've always enjoyed being in a support role and now circumstances have conspired to put me in a position that feels not unmanageable but very unnatural. Ideas are definitely a huge strength of INTP leaders. Fe is a weak point but can be developed or imitated. What I find tends to be problematic boil down to attention and interest. I feel an INTP would have to be very invested in whatever ship their steering, or find some reason to be. We're usually too much in our own heads, and we can be very indecisive about what it is we even want to do. (I wonder if I'm just making excuses as to why an INTP can't be a leader...)
As an INTP, I try constantly to come off as non-pretentious or non-intellectual. I think most INTP's who have decent social skills are the same. It's sometimes hard because our instinct towards precision always tempts us to make one last clarification, even though we know it would be socially counter-productive. A lot is made of the mediocre person pretending to be smart. What about the travails of the INTP who is doing their best not to come off as an over-pedantic asshole? Life's hard for an INTP.
Other INTPS that I think are interesting are Bill Gates, Oppenheimer, Avicii, Albert Einstein, and Isaac Newton. Honestly, I like this video and would like to see more content based around it, doing other types and even more, INTPs would be interesting. Plan on doing this with anime characters and possibly movie characters as well.
Interesting…I am actually reading a book about Lincoln and Frederick Douglass right now, so great timing! I will be curious later in this series to see what you do with my own type (INFP) as I tend to think of myself as the very opposite of a leader, and being in management was sheer hell for me.
I no longer question the reality of me being INTP but I do entertain the ideas. Currently ISTP is what I believe I really am. The simplicity of my ways could be a balanced Si and Ne. But the clear vision that motivated me to keep things focused seems like Ni while Se helps me jump into action when it counts which is often. Moreover, above all else there is consideration to my reckless abondon
On the other hand, "as followers" might make an interesting series too since, INTPs should apparently, be super bad at following if there's the slightest problem in the logic of the leadership and such, no? lol
While we're not the best at adopting a "shut up and do as your told" mentality, we also manage to detach enough from caring that we're usually able to get by... for a while, at least. Our desire to avoid attention from others tends to trump our desire to publicly question authority. If, however, our efforts to avoid attention fail and we face criticism regardless of our efforts, then we might go all in and speak our minds anyway... which is rarely received warmly by those leading.
Interesting... can't speak for other INTP but in my mind, I've only ever wanted to know what was expected of me in any situation so I could figure out the fastest, most efficient way of serving that up, and then get back to doing whatever it was that I was really interested in. When the shit really starts to hit the fan is when I'm given unclear instructions. I may act a bit unclear in response, and may even just stop listening to you entirely. As my old computer science teacher used to say, '"garbage in, garbage out."
Slight problems? It's illogical to worry about it. They'll fix themselves before you can do anything, so you should just ignore them. Big problems on the other hand... Either I'll talk you out of it, or you'll shut me up and I'll leave unless I care to stay for some other reason.
I can't fathom why an INTP would want to be in a leadership position. The few I held were for unrelated reasons that specifically benefitted me. An example was trying to save my parents money for room and board by serving as the resident director of a dorm. I've always had compassion and consideration for others--which is exactly what made it impossible to mediate conflict. And I hate being a "front man." Over the last couple of years I've grown skeptical of almost everything, one item in particular being our history. I am dubious of Lincoln and what's been written about him. As for Page, I have a hard time picturing an INTP as an elitist leftist, using algorithms on his search engine to squelch dissenting points of view.
I keep thinking of Yang Wenli in the anime Legend Of The Galactic Heroes who was also typed as INTP. It was one of the best portrayals of an INTP imho. One of my favourite characters of all time.
Julius Flavius is a great example of an intj ruler, shame his reign was cut short. His deep insight into the nature of Christianity is peak Ni and his active reforms to repair the religious order are clearly Te and Fi driven.
@@novaimperialis John F Kennedy was a good one. Again cut down early, because his Fi principles and his reading of the political landscape with Ni saw him make many enemies. See his speech on secrecy. Hadrian was definitely INTJ. Motivated by his own long term strategy, even though it was deeply unpopular after Trajan's conquests. Also worked hard to make the empire more efficient and smooth. Domitian is a similar story, his absolute disgust at the weak, squabbling, cowardly nature of the senate making him just do everything himself is peak INTJ 'management' if you could call it that lol. Otto von Bismarck perhaps. Some type him entj but I think his regular retreats to the country, and his drinking problem show an intj side. Political winds made him switch his public stance many times which is a bit un-intj like but privately he worked towards a singular goal over time. This is in contrast to someone like Napoleon who switched his political goals constantly because his only real goal was his own fame.
I don't know why, but I always just assumed Lincoln was ESFJ. But I haven't read enough of his work. Just a friend who is ESFJ sounded a lot like Lincoln to me in a few posts, and she exercises her creativity in many crafts. But she's also like a social binder.
Is boo gonna go down the drain like Sync after a couple of months too? I hope not. It seems like the same developers, so I hope they've learned... Otherwise we'll "ghost" them too 🤣 ba dum tsk*
We would make the best leaders but who wants such a heavy burden when you can get someone to do your bidding on stage for you? It’s way more comfortable behind the curtain-and you get fewer death threats
It depends on what you're leading. Sometimes I've been thrown in the deep end bc no one else is available and gotta either sink or swim. If INTJs feel competent, supported and interested enough in the work they can indeed make freaking good leaders. But anything that sabotages them will unhinge them and believe me no one wants to see an INTJ when they're unhinged.
lol I just realized, as an intp I lead like Abraham Lincoln. I don't directly give out verbal orders often, but when I do, people listen. hell, even when I don't talk and just vaguely hint at something, it's like people are trained to know exactly what I want out of them and they do it. 😅 I don't want to be leader (I hate when people think like they have to please or impress me, like bruh in my eyes, we're equal), but it seems people just instinctively follow. like bro, am I cursed or what?
Being in management just seems too much a chore for me. I am not that sensitive to social norm or etiquette thus a potential grievance candidate if I was managing people. Money and fame are never motivating factor for me. Then what else? Job satisfaction? Nope. A job is necessary because I need money and health insurance to stay independent, not under my parents’ thumb or forced to find a partner to shoulder the living expenses.
You’re the status quo of your type. At least assuming, you felt the need to explain this because you’re an intp. Most intps don’t feel like it. Now ehere you got your lack of interest in money, that’s a bit more rare.
@@Caleb-zl4wk Hmm, do INTP typically pursue greater wealth? Not gonna lie, I want to live on my own, and I need greater funds for that. But it's a means to an end. Not to knock anyone, but I don't see why I'd go chasing after riches, it seems kind of frivolous and impractical. (Again, not saying enough to support myself wouldn't be very nice, but that's just being practical...)
@@sad_doggo2504 idk about other ones but I do. I don’t chase paper for its own sake, like you said it’s a means to an end. But that end could be a new car, or a new computer, or whatever else I want in the moment, assuming my needs are provided for.
@@sad_doggo2504 I think no one is born viewing money and fame as their movitating factor, it's the society make them like that and it's a matter of how much people let it affect them and INTPs are some of the most suspected of it. The only thing that can take you motivated is yourself, only you can told yourself to be open to these Ideas, do not wait for other to motivate you with them. That's what I learnt after compulsory millitary duty.
I tried to join your Discord server and went through all the hoops you set up until it asked me for a password. I was never asked to enter a password so, of course, it denied me access. If I try again, the server will deny me the use of my name and user name, phone number etc. because it is now taken by someone who can't complete the process. Gave up.
Talking about a finger on the pulse of public sentiment as the strength of a civil war leader is pretty ridiculous. Really his leadership is an example of both Fe and Fi weakness, not strength.
a. In my view, Nathan simplified; perhaps a bit oversimplified; but he communicated a solid overview of the points that made Lincoln successful b. Your entire comment is subjective, and consequently not worth arguing with, even though I disagree (and am flabbergasted how you came to that conclusion)
@@Caleb-zl4wk It's not subjective at all. The fact that he couldn't restore peace shows a failure of understanding public sentiment, and the hypocritical lack of principle that the union side had was a fault of the leadership's lack of Fi.
@@ktkc1o7 Any 'INTP' that puts "making each other feel good" above sticking to the plain truth isn't a INTP anymore, because for any healthy INTP the truth is more holy than anything else. Getting out difficult truths is actually the very reason why INTP's are so badly needed in our society. So Lincoln was rather an INFJ (or another type) but sure not a true INTP.
@@Dfd_Free_Speech MBTIs are born made bro, there's no one who isn't INTP anymore if they do this or that, dude was running a political job. It make perfect sense for him to be aware of other feeling because that's tied with his career, INTPs are really good at being advisors but get tough leader for that kind of reason. He's just a INTP that hold onto the harsh truth that he born at democracy era and required to take a a step back from being too highly individualism. Deny it or not, everyone live based on eachother.
@@HolyFox2024Yeah. I hate how anyone points at one thing and is like "can't be that type, doesn't fit my cookie cutter archetyping *vogues in Ni Se Ni Se*) I was literally told I wasn't an INTP because "I use emoji's" like dude, I'm painfully aware of how I analytically rip into things so as a "girl" from the 90's who is expected to value emotions of course I'm going to feel like I have to soften my points with a bit of 😅 and 😂. I'm a clown-type INTP anyway. but yeah I hate when people pinpoint one thing and are like "not INTP😤" and I'm like EXPLAIN please sir maddam or zephyr(/j) but explain my Ti Ne loopage please with a side dose of Fe inferior 😂. (I am secretly now self conscious of my emoji social strat when I see none in the YT comments of an INTP video though 🦗🦗🦗🦗 )
As an INTP who has a developed Fe I have questioned being an INTP too many times, hearing about Abraham Lincoln helped me with that.
Still questioning my type for the exact same reason.
being raised by Fe users and surrounded by them my whole life I have the same sentiments
Yeah and I kinda feel the same way. I think it’s my Ti that is the reason I care about Fe as much as I do, because logically things will tend to be much more efficient and move much more smoothly when harmony is achieved. Take away Fe and what you can end up with is chaos, nothing gets done because people are too busy fighting.
@@Cynical_Socialist YES I agree, I believe I developed my FE for very similar reasons. For me it was that I realized that by not acknowledging the importance of emotion I was being neither logical nor realistic. You cannot claim to see the reality, or truth, of people or a situation if you aren’t including feelings and relationships as an important and very REAL factor. Trying to live and think that way only leads to frustration.
This is a personal and possibly erroneous opinion, but I sometimes think that INTP’s who get in the comments of MBTI videos talking like they hate people, they never leave their rooms, they hate work etc. are either A) leaning a bit too much into their type/stereotype, or b) still somewhat young, at least in the sense that they haven’t developed their weaker functions yet.
All the dichotomy tests are giving me INFP but with cognitive functions I determined I'm INTP with strong Fe and Si because Mother is ISFJ
As an INTP the only quote I’ve ever really felt deep connection with on Leadership is from Lao Tzu “the best leader is one who the people barely know exists, when his work is done, his task fulfilled, the people then say ‘we did it ourselves’”
Problem is, the intp knows many things better. I let my people work in peace, but the strategy comes from me and omg, what a masterplan it is.
@@CIA.2024-u9b cringiest comment I’ve ever read
@@jeffk3746 Don't be ashamed for your nature. Our masterplans are perfect!
This was interesting, because being a leader sounds like an absolute nightmare to me as an INTP, so it’s neat to see how others handle it. I’m too much of a control freak when I am actually in charge of something, so I try my best to avoid it as to not stress out myself and piss off other people.
I used to work in Mountain View, which is Google land, and always had a pretty positive impression of them, even from people who worked there. As opposed to Apple, which I only heard negative things about. And of course it is lovely to hear Lincoln was an INTP, while not perfect he was rather progressive for his time.
Thank you for the video!
I'm much better at organising others than myself so it surprises me I do ok in leadership, but I think it's because I'm not into hierarchical structures, and would never go for a role in leadership but have fallen into it at rare moments (can't say it's my thing though)
Other INTPs include Bill Gates, Oppenheimer, Avicii, Albert Einstein, and Isaac Newton. Being an INTP, I believe, is a gift, and even though we are genius intellectuals, we must learn how to endure and get along with humans, as being a cold and logical robot doesn't solve everything. We humans must learn and embrace emotions and feelings :D
Same 😭 it's funny bc I'm so relaxed by myself (maybe bc I already know how I work) but I was so strict that when I realized I stopped but I became so negligent that they didn't do anything 💀💀
@@Roasty420i didn't expect Oppenheimer to be an INTP
But that's good
Yes, I think that using Ti to hack Fe is something that a lot of INTPs eventually fall into. It takes a lot of fine tuning, and can be difficult to work out, but in most cases, it does help make dealing with other humans less frustrating.
Using Ni-Fi to hack Fe here 😓😓😓 hardddd
-intj
@@MrBOBhakimipendobombies just invert it. Ni can work like Ti in some senses, just more like a wormhole- if x, y, and/or z occur, they’ll lead to this. If “this” is a bad emotional outcome for you, invert it and don’t do x, y, or z to someone else.
@@Jonas-bn5kc or yk you can “hack” fi by practicing… having morals…
@@Jonas-bn5kc *says you can use better fe if you use morals*
“What good would that be?”
*cricket noises*
Anyway, just because morals are sometimes false and sold to you by people who have no interest in real ones, doesn’t make anything wrong with using them correctly. That doesn’t make any sense. I’d also note that words, like pencils, knives, desks, and chicken sandwiches, can be weapons. It depends how you use them.
@@Jonas-bn5kc “I feel it hacks both Fe and Fi, it is simply…”
- you, two comments ago
“First of all I haven’t mentioned Fe”
*cricket noises*
Anyway, no, I suggest by stabbing you with a pencil I have made the pencil into a weapon. Just as by attacking you with a desk I have made the desk a weapon. And by insulting someone with malicious intent you turn words into a weapon. Sheesh, I had hoped you would be the kind of person who observes Ne a bit more when reading what others have to say.
Your explanation of INTP using Fe makes so much sense.
As INTP, whenever I make decisions for myself have always been as logic based as I could to weigh each outcome.
However when the situation concerns other people, the decision and method I use will usually fall to how they will emotionally respond. Even if it's somthing that I personally feel isn't efficient and more fanfare than I would care for.
Like, I care about the cake, not the frosting. But since I know other people like frosting I'll consider it.
So for years I felt like I was flip flopping back and forth between Fe and Ti, which kind of annoyed me to be honest.
Then I realized that I was actually using Ti to utilize Fe when i felt to me to guide the interaction and converstions with other people.
I'm an INTP serving as Active Duty in the Air Force, been in 8 years and currently hold the rank of Staff Sergeant. Learning how to be a leader despite my weaknesses was a great challenge but I used psychology teachings and analyzed my previous mistakes to construct approaches for each individual I meet one on one. I also have a separate approach for when I need to talk to groups.
My intentions were to create relationships that have an open communication and mutual support regardless of rank, a lot of my subordinate enjoyed my leadership and came to me for advice often, and had a superior complement me. But of course I also had those who hated me and accused my work my lazy and nosy.
INTP's stand to benefit the most from military service. You are forced into constant shadow work. The United States Marine Corps is waiting for you when you actually plan on joining the military. If you want to take your shadow work to the next level you can join the infantry, we always need more grunts.
Hello, could you please share your personal info with me so I can contact you. I am currently a cadet in Belgium's military academy (soon to receive my commission as a 2nd lieutenant) and I have a lot of questions about leadership. Thank you.
@@milanclefas6916 Feel free to ask here, your questions might help out others here too
This is very familiar
Nathan knows his demographic so well
Ah, the video I've been wishing for.
I'm an INTP school student, and I've held several leadership roles at this point. I haven't always succeeded, but I've managed to figure out stuff like using my tendency for analysis to my advantage. Like me being the House captain in my house this year and winning the sports meet. I read Sun Tzu's The Art of War for strategy ideas. For a goddamn sports meet.
I've also realized I work a lot better with a time frame someone else had decided on. This means if you give me a team and tell me to win any competition set in a week or something, I can win it in a landslide. But if you give me a team and tell me to make a presentation or something with no deadline, it's never gonna get done. Procrastination is a beast. Any tips on how to manage that, people?
My biggest problem has always been communication, and you've given me so many ideas to play with. I guess it's time the dissection laser turned to my language skills. That, and my trust in my fellow -Homo Sapiens- teammates needs to improve. I'm working on all of it though. My ascent as a formidable leader has scarcely begun! _cue evil laugh_
On the subject of procrastination it seems to me that you already understand what works for you and what doesn't. On a purely personal level I find that it is easy, when one has a natural inclination for logical reasoning, to seek a singular "truth", or answer, to ones problems. This isn't always an efficient approach, however. Rather, in my experience, there are many ways to solve most problems if one is willing to re-evaluate and adjust what the actual goal is. Basically, if ones goal is to erase procrastination from life entirely, I would suggest considering what the cause is for this unwanted behaviour and, crucially, how problematic it actually is when put into context.
For example, when you are presented by a task with a set deadline you complete it, and when the deadline is unspecified you don't. On first glance this suggests to me that you are either motivated by the increased challenge the deadline adds, or that the added framework helps you narrow down your initial approach to solving the problem at hand, making it easier to engage with. Possibly both. Having clear and defined rules and goals is a universal necessity when asked to achieve specific results. It isn't just up to the person performing the task to make sure they succeed - the person rigging the assignment also has a responsibility in setting them up for success... and to do that they need a full picture.
I often find that it usually worth trying to artificially engineer motivation - it isn't some magical force that can be conjured by willpower alone. Motivation and enthusiasm is your body responding to external stimulus by releasing biochemicals to reinforce behaviour. Instead of working against your own nature and trying to create something out of nothing, perhaps you could learn to better recognize what you need to achieve the desired results?
If someone asks you to solve a problem, is it more logical to say yes, knowing you will likely procrastinate and not meet expectations (actively swimming against the currents, as explained in this excellent video), or to simply explain what you need to achieve your full potential? It seems to me that whoever asked something of you should be happier, in the end, to spend 10 min rephrasing their assignment rather than end up with lesser results. A good leader plays to their followers strengths, right?
I would apologize for the impromptu essay, but I think this was as much for myself as it was for you, lol. I do hope it gave some food for thought, even if I, technically speaking, didn't answer your question. Anyways, good luck!
@@christofferfransson4209 Damnit, how'd I miss this reply for half a year!?
Thank you so much for the thoughts, and there's no need to apologise. In a way, I got an answer to my procrastination issue. (The monkey in my brain is stubborn lmao) You talked about playing with the currents instead of against them, and figuring out how my own brain gets motivated might just be what I need to be effortlessly productive.
I stumbled on this right around a time when I'm at a crossroads of sorts, needing to figure out what my next move is. I'll definitely chew on what you said and move forward stronger than before. Again, thank you so, so much!
As an INTP I actually like the leadership positions. I have also been sports captain previously. I have a lower Fe but I understand emotions but choose not to act upon them (acting on logic seems more reasonable). I don't relate to INTPs being portrayed so socially awkward most of the time. If I sit alone I'm comfortable and don't act shy who can't respond when a stranger talks. Remember guys that you don't have to fit into the stereotype. MBTI should be used to know your weaknesses and work upon them and understand others better
Stereotypes tend to be ridiculous most of the time anyway. Rather than being a representation of the majority, it ends becoming a model that people fit into to ascertain that they are indeed this MBTI type.
Another way Lincoln serves as a great INTP archetype is by demonstrating that staying home and watching UA-cam is safer than and preferable to going to the theatre.
Yes stay on youtube
I like to think Ti makes a person realise the best thing they can do is contribute to society, hence creating Fe. It may be there against my will, but it is there nonetheless, and necessary for any real progress in life.
INTP: Interesting. After many years I realized that people who were emotional natured, did not deserve my disrespect or disdain, or judgement. As I matured, endeavoring to understand that nature created more love and harmony in my relationships. That understanding came through my logic and reason and desire to expand to a broader level of Consciousness and be able to embrace and be more objective about other's human experiences. And in doing that, I can feel more what another person is feeling from a place of understanding compassion. That is a newer experience for me because as an INTP I really was more logical and still am, but I'm able to embrace the emotional more and more as I see the value in it, in me and others. I also can see that there can be instability and irrational behavior when one is subjected to that emotional nature. So I have also learned in observing this,... that one must be cautious about their interactions with the unconscious irrational feeling nature of some humans..... Well almost all humans.... At times. Choosing to endeavor to understand is less cold and judgemental and more warm and embracing. Balancing T and F? Maybe.
Using Ti to understand and relate with Fe. Yes
“How can you time your move so perfectly?” this question came to me after observing one intp I know. This video captures that aspect of healthy and successful intps so perfectly…
I am glad that I typed him correctly 😎 - infj (now I can predict his moves beforehand sometimes 🙃😎)
Yeah, Lincoln's type can be tricky. He's been described as a ‘man of steel and velvet’ for his seeming dichotomy in personality. I lean toward him being an INTP who made ready use of his shadow functions/ENTJ self when needed... but I've also seen a few INTJs who seem to've achieved similar results, so I could see it going either way.
That's a very INFJ reply when having a "d**k measuring contest" with an INTP. I have an INFJ friend with that exact statement of yours and a perfect copy of using that emoji. Sometimes, we have this "I know you know" replies that makes us having an observation/memory/deduction battle but ridiculous enough to make us intellectual clowns. Idk if he's taking it seriously or not but I'll always conclude it as both, since it always come off as a playful banter while having an ego trip that results in a healthy competition. And we want both to be clever and funny (Ti/Fe on the work). Your kind are always a delight to be with.
I always liked Lincoln's NT/strategic approach to law and government, although the resulting suppression of individual state rights vs federal authority that followed his demise was (and still is) unfortunate. I don't suspect that was his intent, but he was removed from the equation at a critical moment and the people who took power after Lincoln took things in a very different direction compared to what Lincoln himself likely envisioned.
Lincoln's MO was more-or-less waiting for the "opportune moment," as Jack Sparrow called it. Losing battles, but winning wars.
Clearly, any INTP who takes public office has peculiarities which separate him/her from other INTPs. We don't generally like to take charge or issue orders, and typically avoid authority roles unless circumstances demand otherwise. Lincoln was a unique product of his environment.
First off, "INTP leader" is a bit of an oxymoron as most INTPs abhor being in charge of other people. They call it babysitting.
I also disagree with the assertion that INTPs are poor communicators. In truth, they can explain complicated topics with clarity and brilliance.
I think this is the most mature series of this channel
As an ENTJ, I look forward to the video were you tell everyone what great leaders we are, and how we have such an all present, unshakable ethic surrounding our follo... I mean friends
I'm onto you -intp
You guys make better generals than politicians to be honest, it's a leadership role that favours the constant action of Te over the far-reaching visionary policies Ni can bring. Though you're pretty good at both.
@@EresirThe1st Thanks, I'm actually considering politics after my music career. I see plenty of artists and musicians jumping ship all the time, so I don't see why I can't do the same. But I guess I have to start the music stuff first, considering I'm young and haven't actually started at life yet.
@@jazzyalex6760 Politics is rarely a young man's game, it takes a lot of worldly experience and research to do well. You can always get to it later.
@@EresirThe1st Yeah, so I'll probably just F around for 20 years and do what I want, you know...
Until I do what I have to
I'm an intp and if I'm going to be honest, I do enjoy leading. Not because I get my way-well yes-but besides that (I'm going to sound awful for this), because then I don't have to deal with people who don't know what they're doing jeopardising me. Group work frustrates me so much, and at least when I'm in control we are able to do something, otherwise the times I haven't led, we've all ended up with nothing. Omg there was this one time in school where we were doing something related to flowers and I had put a whole poster together, printed labels, drawn the diagram... (basically everything) and the ONE thing I asked them to do was stick the labels on while I wrote a test (I had been absent). I even opened the book with the diagram to basically copy. Well guess what, I came back from my test and we presented it, during the presentation I looked at the board and realised they stuck the labels in the wrong places... We ended up barely passing, like ffs is it that difficult?? This was literally 4-5 years ago and it still annoys me so much. Recently also, my group didn't work together and ended up having to write seperate things... Turns out we all basically wrote on the same topic omg this is why I want to be a physicist (apart from the fact it's my passion), I don't have to work with people who don't care, if I do, it'll be with people who are in the same industry, studied for years and have the same passion. Anyways this is like my 100th time ranting abt this, and ngl it still feels very good.
Same here. Team work means, I do it, so that it's done well. I can't watch supid people do stupid things.
That Audiobook was amazing. Lincoln is one of my heros, I had leaned into INTJ as his type but I can understand your argument for INTP as well.
What's the book called?
@@EresirThe1st just "Lincoln" by David Herbert Donald. Definitely not boring.
Actually, sorry that one is 30 hours, my bad. Nathan might be referring to the other one: "Team of Rivals" which is 41 hours long and probably more applicable to this particular topic. Both are fantastic.
Before watching: The only political leader that's probably INTP I'm aware of was Lincoln, gonna be interesting what you come up with.
Thank you so much for describing INTP leaders. Are you aware of female INTP role models? Maybe even, leaders?
Marie Curie
That depends what you consider worth emulating, but leaders are slim pickings.
Another great INTP video, thank you! Ataturk for the ENTJ type would fit perfectly by the way 🤘🏻
God I can't wait for ENTP's turn. I'm gonna lead a business and the way you put together these ideas seems very helpful.
My INTP son is turning 12, I’m still not sure what his older brother is but it’s plain as day for him. These principles for how to thrive as a brain person are exciting to learn since I see him struggling in different ways from me as an INTJ.
I’m particularly enjoying this series of how each of us can lean into our strengths. Even my small life requires me to pick up leadership roles as a mom, so there aren’t going to be many people who wouldn’t directly benefit from understanding these things. Thanks, Nathan!
INTJs and INTPs get along pretty well, as INTJ/INTP is known as robots. INTJs are Elon Musk and Mark Zuckerberg, which makes sense as both use cold and calculating logic.
Your son is lucky he can relate to his parents; I, for one, try to get along with my father, but it's so-so.
@@jimclayson Well, I agree with that, but I assume it has more to do with him and his ego.
INTJs are excellent planners and can plan their life ahead by 30 years. This is why Elon was able to invest in companies and make more money from those companies.
My only issue is that he tends to get cocky and ends up screwing himself over. Dogecoin, for example, my brother had told me to invest in that currency, but I knew something was strange about it, so I declined.
A few years later, it turns out Elon was just trolling people and was hoping people wouldn't invest in his coin; as he said before, he was only trolling people and didn't think anyone would invest in it.
That's one reason I'm not inspired by Elon anymore, the guy knows what to do, but he acts like a child half the time.
@@jimclayson If anything, I can name some fictional and non-fictional characters to help understand how Elon could be INTJ, if that makes any sense?
Do you read comics, watch anime, or spend time watching TV?
Lincoln has always been one of my favorite leaders. Interestingly, he's one of hubby's favorites, too. Hubby is an INTJ. I'm mostly INTP. Hubby has looked on and been intrigued that my leadership style works. People want to join me in endeavors. Together, we've read biographies of Lincoln, and I definitely relate to him.
Ahhh well, this is the video I really didn't want to see, because this is the type of work I've been avoiding. I've always enjoyed being in a support role and now circumstances have conspired to put me in a position that feels not unmanageable but very unnatural.
Ideas are definitely a huge strength of INTP leaders. Fe is a weak point but can be developed or imitated. What I find tends to be problematic boil down to attention and interest. I feel an INTP would have to be very invested in whatever ship their steering, or find some reason to be. We're usually too much in our own heads, and we can be very indecisive about what it is we even want to do. (I wonder if I'm just making excuses as to why an INTP can't be a leader...)
We can be leaders. I do the strategizing and my dpt. heads, all EN/STJs do the work with the teams. It works very well.
As an INTP, I try constantly to come off as non-pretentious or non-intellectual. I think most INTP's who have decent social skills are the same. It's sometimes hard because our instinct towards precision always tempts us to make one last clarification, even though we know it would be socially counter-productive.
A lot is made of the mediocre person pretending to be smart.
What about the travails of the INTP who is doing their best not to come off as an over-pedantic asshole? Life's hard for an INTP.
Already love this series
Other INTPS that I think are interesting are Bill Gates, Oppenheimer, Avicii, Albert Einstein, and Isaac Newton.
Honestly, I like this video and would like to see more content based around it, doing other types and even more, INTPs would be interesting.
Plan on doing this with anime characters and possibly movie characters as well.
Interesting…I am actually reading a book about Lincoln and Frederick Douglass right now, so great timing! I will be curious later in this series to see what you do with my own type (INFP) as I tend to think of myself as the very opposite of a leader, and being in management was sheer hell for me.
I no longer question the reality of me being INTP but I do entertain the ideas. Currently ISTP is what I believe I really am. The simplicity of my ways could be a balanced Si and Ne. But the clear vision that motivated me to keep things focused seems like Ni while Se helps me jump into action when it counts which is often. Moreover, above all else there is consideration to my reckless abondon
Its hard for INTPs to be either a leader or a follower. 😅
On the other hand, "as followers" might make an interesting series too since, INTPs should apparently, be super bad at following if there's the slightest problem in the logic of the leadership and such, no? lol
While we're not the best at adopting a "shut up and do as your told" mentality, we also manage to detach enough from caring that we're usually able to get by... for a while, at least. Our desire to avoid attention from others tends to trump our desire to publicly question authority. If, however, our efforts to avoid attention fail and we face criticism regardless of our efforts, then we might go all in and speak our minds anyway... which is rarely received warmly by those leading.
@@jimclayson your comment sums up my entire working experience in a nut shell. I just retired. So glad I leave it all behind.
Interesting... can't speak for other INTP but in my mind, I've only ever wanted to know what was expected of me in any situation so I could figure out the fastest, most efficient way of serving that up, and then get back to doing whatever it was that I was really interested in.
When the shit really starts to hit the fan is when I'm given unclear instructions. I may act a bit unclear in response, and may even just stop listening to you entirely. As my old computer science teacher used to say, '"garbage in, garbage out."
Slight problems? It's illogical to worry about it. They'll fix themselves before you can do anything, so you should just ignore them.
Big problems on the other hand... Either I'll talk you out of it, or you'll shut me up and I'll leave unless I care to stay for some other reason.
As an INTP, I really like the idea of marrying Ti and Fe together. It’s very respectable.
I can't fathom why an INTP would want to be in a leadership position. The few I held were for unrelated reasons that specifically benefitted me. An example was trying to save my parents money for room and board by serving as the resident director of a dorm. I've always had compassion and consideration for others--which is exactly what made it impossible to mediate conflict. And I hate being a "front man."
Over the last couple of years I've grown skeptical of almost everything, one item in particular being our history. I am dubious of Lincoln and what's been written about him. As for Page, I have a hard time picturing an INTP as an elitist leftist, using algorithms on his search engine to squelch dissenting points of view.
I have the hardest time with INTPs, but I understand them the most.
I keep thinking of Yang Wenli in the anime Legend Of The Galactic Heroes who was also typed as INTP. It was one of the best portrayals of an INTP imho. One of my favourite characters of all time.
When will you do the INTJ one? For an INTJ I'm thinking Octavian Augustus or even Charles de Gaulle may represent examples of INTJs as leaders.
Julius Flavius is a great example of an intj ruler, shame his reign was cut short. His deep insight into the nature of Christianity is peak Ni and his active reforms to repair the religious order are clearly Te and Fi driven.
@@EresirThe1st Thanks for the suggestion. Can you give others as well?
@@novaimperialis Horatio Hornblower written by cs forester.
@@novaimperialis John F Kennedy was a good one. Again cut down early, because his Fi principles and his reading of the political landscape with Ni saw him make many enemies. See his speech on secrecy.
Hadrian was definitely INTJ. Motivated by his own long term strategy, even though it was deeply unpopular after Trajan's conquests. Also worked hard to make the empire more efficient and smooth.
Domitian is a similar story, his absolute disgust at the weak, squabbling, cowardly nature of the senate making him just do everything himself is peak INTJ 'management' if you could call it that lol.
Otto von Bismarck perhaps. Some type him entj but I think his regular retreats to the country, and his drinking problem show an intj side. Political winds made him switch his public stance many times which is a bit un-intj like but privately he worked towards a singular goal over time. This is in contrast to someone like Napoleon who switched his political goals constantly because his only real goal was his own fame.
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I don't know why, but I always just assumed Lincoln was ESFJ. But I haven't read enough of his work. Just a friend who is ESFJ sounded a lot like Lincoln to me in a few posts, and she exercises her creativity in many crafts. But she's also like a social binder.
Is boo gonna go down the drain like Sync after a couple of months too? I hope not. It seems like the same developers, so I hope they've learned... Otherwise we'll "ghost" them too 🤣 ba dum tsk*
We all know INTJ make the best leaders but i wouldn't say no to a new series
No..... INTP
Wrong, I am an ENTJ, therefore I win at everything without exception over all time... Obviously
We would make the best leaders but who wants such a heavy burden when you can get someone to do your bidding on stage for you? It’s way more comfortable behind the curtain-and you get fewer death threats
@@CheriFields Nah, gotta do it yourself to get things done right unfortunately.
It depends on what you're leading. Sometimes I've been thrown in the deep end bc no one else is available and gotta either sink or swim. If INTJs feel competent, supported and interested enough in the work they can indeed make freaking good leaders. But anything that sabotages them will unhinge them and believe me no one wants to see an INTJ when they're unhinged.
lol I just realized, as an intp I lead like Abraham Lincoln. I don't directly give out verbal orders often, but when I do, people listen. hell, even when I don't talk and just vaguely hint at something, it's like people are trained to know exactly what I want out of them and they do it. 😅 I don't want to be leader (I hate when people think like they have to please or impress me, like bruh in my eyes, we're equal), but it seems people just instinctively follow. like bro, am I cursed or what?
Female INTP HERE!!😅
one does not announce oneself thusly
@@louisejoel Apologies Noble Sir
Hey, is it true that intp's don't change much between genders?
Same 😂👋
@@jazzyalex6760 female ones tend to be better at not talking. They’re also more aesthetically expressive and take better care of their bodies.
Cool I was planning on dressing as Abraham Lincoln for Halloween this year, and it turns out he was likely an intp. Perfect hahaha.
Being in management just seems too much a chore for me. I am not that sensitive to social norm or etiquette thus a potential grievance candidate if I was managing people. Money and fame are never motivating factor for me. Then what else? Job satisfaction? Nope. A job is necessary because I need money and health insurance to stay independent, not under my parents’ thumb or forced to find a partner to shoulder the living expenses.
You’re the status quo of your type. At least assuming, you felt the need to explain this because you’re an intp. Most intps don’t feel like it. Now ehere you got your lack of interest in money, that’s a bit more rare.
@@Caleb-zl4wk Hmm, do INTP typically pursue greater wealth? Not gonna lie, I want to live on my own, and I need greater funds for that. But it's a means to an end. Not to knock anyone, but I don't see why I'd go chasing after riches, it seems kind of frivolous and impractical. (Again, not saying enough to support myself wouldn't be very nice, but that's just being practical...)
@@sad_doggo2504 idk about other ones but I do. I don’t chase paper for its own sake, like you said it’s a means to an end. But that end could be a new car, or a new computer, or whatever else I want in the moment, assuming my needs are provided for.
@@sad_doggo2504 I think no one is born viewing money and fame as their movitating factor, it's the society make them like that and it's a matter of how much people let it affect them and INTPs are some of the most suspected of it. The only thing that can take you motivated is yourself, only you can told yourself to be open to these Ideas, do not wait for other to motivate you with them. That's what I learnt after compulsory millitary duty.
Fe is a real asset for a mature INTP.
Brilliant
Elon musk......
split almost perfectly between 10 mins 30, at 5 mins 12 👌🏽
If including spiritual leaders then INFJ would be interesting
I tried to join your Discord server and went through all the hoops you set up until it asked me for a password. I was never asked to enter a password so, of course, it denied me access. If I try again, the server will deny me the use of my name and user name, phone number etc. because it is now taken by someone who can't complete the process. Gave up.
Do one for ISTPs por favor
Oh? I just searched INTPT and clicked this video didn't know I'm early tooಠ∀ಠ
A. Lincoln is ENTJ
can we kidnap 30 INTPs put them in a room and observe them 🤔
seeing as how you've placed my type in the thumbnail, I literally have to click. how dare you do this to me.
Talking about a finger on the pulse of public sentiment as the strength of a civil war leader is pretty ridiculous. Really his leadership is an example of both Fe and Fi weakness, not strength.
a. In my view, Nathan simplified; perhaps a bit oversimplified; but he communicated a solid overview of the points that made Lincoln successful
b. Your entire comment is subjective, and consequently not worth arguing with, even though I disagree (and am flabbergasted how you came to that conclusion)
@@Caleb-zl4wk It's not subjective at all. The fact that he couldn't restore peace shows a failure of understanding public sentiment, and the hypocritical lack of principle that the union side had was a fault of the leadership's lack of Fi.
@@EresirThe1st interesting opinionated analysis. Bye now
Terrible choice for an INTP as Lincoln wasn't an INTP. He is probably to most common mistyped INTP though.
You can't just say that. You have to have a counter argument because the video already addressed this.
@@ktkc1o7 Any 'INTP' that puts "making each other feel good" above sticking to the plain truth isn't a INTP anymore, because for any healthy INTP the truth is more holy than anything else. Getting out difficult truths is actually the very reason why INTP's are so badly needed in our society.
So Lincoln was rather an INFJ (or another type) but sure not a true INTP.
@@Dfd_Free_Speech MBTIs are born made bro, there's no one who isn't INTP anymore if they do this or that, dude was running a political job. It make perfect sense for him to be aware of other feeling because that's tied with his career, INTPs are really good at being advisors but get tough leader for that kind of reason. He's just a INTP that hold onto the harsh truth that he born at democracy era and required to take a a step back from being too highly individualism. Deny it or not, everyone live based on eachother.
@@HolyFox2024Yeah. I hate how anyone points at one thing and is like "can't be that type, doesn't fit my cookie cutter archetyping *vogues in Ni Se Ni Se*)
I was literally told I wasn't an INTP because "I use emoji's" like dude, I'm painfully aware of how I analytically rip into things so as a "girl" from the 90's who is expected to value emotions of course I'm going to feel like I have to soften my points with a bit of 😅 and 😂. I'm a clown-type INTP anyway. but yeah I hate when people pinpoint one thing and are like "not INTP😤" and I'm like EXPLAIN please sir maddam or zephyr(/j) but explain my Ti Ne loopage please with a side dose of Fe inferior 😂.
(I am secretly now self conscious of my emoji social strat when I see none in the YT comments of an INTP video though 🦗🦗🦗🦗 )