Honda Sent Us a BRAND NEW 1984 Honda Civic That Hasn't Run In Years! Can I Start It?
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No, that is NOT a typo! Honda found a 1984 Civic hidden in storage for years, and sent it to us to review! In this video we show you around this gem and work with several Honda Mechanics to try and get it started!
Time Stamps:
0:00 Brand New 40 Year Old Civic
1:05 The Drop Off
3:07 Full Tour
10:22 The History
14:30 Mechanical Inspection
20:41 First Start
22:40 The Carb Wizard
32:24 It Lives
33:10 First Drive
35:34 First Breakdown
39:30 More Work To Do...
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Great content, guys! Who can see a brand new Honda 40 years later? Wow!
yep, and see it being butchered... Definitely big wow, but not in a positive way.
@@LukeZakI understand exactly what you mean, but I sincerely hope not. This is a museum piece and that's how it should stay. It's one of the ONLY OG Hondas that I have EVER seen.
Wow that car could be my brother, I was born in 84' LOL 😆
So it would be safe to say that That Toyota copied this design when they made the Tercel?
@@BoomBox02Wow! Now that I think about it, that's a GREAT mental connection you make! They do seem related in pictures, for sure!
This clearly shows how a vehicle can easily age even when you don't drive it at all and keep it in storage. It makes you wonder how many cars in museums are likely going through the exact same aging process at this time.
They have fuel stabilizer for that though.
I'd still take a few days of recomissioning over rust.
Time doesn't stop for anyone or anything
@@churblefurbles Fuel stabilizer only keeps fuel good for a few years at most.
Have seen many different methods to achieve ideal storage conditions.
Temp controlled bubbles are solid options. But really they need the fuel drained entirely, fog oil in the spark plug holes. Drain the coolant, brake fluid, and even then the rubber will still likely dry out. The Toyota museum has a early Celica that sits on aftermarket wheels, moved on the aftermarket wheels, and when they get to the show, they take the original tires out of vacuum sealed bags and put them on the car for the show. Then when it's done, they take them back off, put them back into vacuum sealed bags in temperature controlled, dark storage. It might be the only way to preserve old rubber without issues. But even then, rubber ages horribly fast(compared to metal).
Same with some of the plastics. The oils dry out over time and they get crunchy
As someone who deals with old vehicles with low miles.
Drain and refill all fluids. Gas goes bad. Condensation builds up. Both oil and coolant can become acidic. Additive packages in oil, trans fluid, gear oil et can come out of suspension and oil quality is garbage at that point.
If it's rubber, replace it. All vacuum lines, radiator hoses, belts, etc.
If it's got a filter, replace it. Air filter, fuel filter, coolant filter, trans fluid filter,etc.
If it's electrical,clean it. Disconnect and clean any electrical contacts you can get to.
This will give you a baseline, and guarantee there's no failures on easily repairable stuff, and all that stuff should have been done decades ago anyway.
Remember, it's not just mileage, but time.
What exactly is it you do that puts you in that position? Sounds interesting
@@myopiniongoodyouropinionbad
Military vehicle restoration.
Most are 40-80 years old with virtually no miles. Lowest was ~150 miles and highest was around 22K miles, with most being about 40 years old with less than 10K miles.
You left out cleaning and rebuilding the carburetor, they already said up front that this one has diaphragms in it that would have fallen apart by now.
@@jimbob3030 luckily, I deal exclusively with diesels... :D... They have simple pumps.... But yes, rubber seals and things like diaphragms in pumps and pressure switches are often a source of leaking and issues.
@@ConfidentialTrust With your diesel knowledge specific to bringing old diesels back to running condition, can I ask a simple question?
I have a stepvan with a cummins 4bta that has been sitting with fuel in it for around 2 years, the fuel was freshly filled before I stopped driving it and has been sitting with a full tank all this time.
My mechanic says I could just put a diesel additive in it and a few days later run it, but online I read that old diesel can ruin the high pressure fuel pump and says I shouldn't do that.
Should I trust the mechanic, or should I trust what I read online that suggests I should drain the old fuel and replace with new fuel and replace the fuel filter before trying to run it at all?
Sounds like it will be a bit of work to drain all that fuel, and I'm not sure how I'd do that other than to try to siphon it out with a garden hose from the filler neck.
The stepvan has an 18 foot bed so there is fuel in a long fuel line, should I try to drain that too, because the additive won't get in there?
I do have a diesel heater that could use the old fuel if I must drain it, just trying to avoid the hassle of trying to siphon it out if I don't have to as I don't have a pump to do that and would have to siphon fuel the old fashioned way of sucking on a hose to get it to where it will drain out of the filler neck.
My OCD is kicking in as you guys test drive this pristine car WITH YOUR GREASY HANDS ALL OVER THE INTERIOR! 😡😡😡
well judging from the carb there were tree sap boogers all inside it so i mean its dirty inside you just cant see it. just wipe it down after
I felt the same way.
Agree, couldn't believe they were doing that. It showed a total lack of respect for such a special car! 😠
Yea, they are a dirty bunch at TFL
That has nothing to do with the OCD that you don't have. Pathetic.
why would they hand a brand new Classic honda over to guys who have no idea how to work on them. Cranking engine without taking a couple plugs and inspecting with a borescope pre lubing cylinders, changing all fluids and filters before you run it, taking carb apart and cleaning with solvents(when it has that much varnish that is all that works), running engine with a clear big vacuum leak you can hear, driving it quite fast down a gravel driveway could chip paint, and running it that long when the temp was climbing could do damage. I understand it is just a Honda but its a Honda owned museum piece.
Yep.
Seriously they gave it to these amateur clowns
Those carbs sucked. This is why fuel injection was a huge game changer in the industry. Even though back then every mechanic was angry because they thought fuel injection was gonna be extremely hard to work on. Years later, they learned it was a huge improvement over carbs.
Back then I bought an 82 Datsun/Nissan 200sx (Pre 240sx) and it was fuel injection. I bought it cheep because everyone was scared of how expensive it was to repair due to mechanics spreading nonsense because they were intimidated by it. More of a reason for me to buy them and resell. The Nissan injection engines were amazing back then.
We did replace stock Honda carbs with Webbers. So much more refined than Honda carb.
This car isn’t worth much because Honda can’t sell it. They are gaining tons of exposure though.
Marvel Mystery oil !
@@ryanb8736 Honda needs more exposure? Lmao
driving that perfectly clean car down that gravel road really hurt lol
It hurt me too, i thought was alone with my thoughts
With greasy hands and arms!
Well.... its a car. It's time for it to live life a little
That’s TFL for u!
What's wrong with dirt roads??? Jeez you guys. You make it sound like they went on rock crawling.
Am I the only one who was shocked to see them drive this absolute time capsule on a gravelly dirt road?? YIKES!!! Notice the engine compartment after that drive....filthy dirty....surprised Honda didnt ask them to stick to asphalt....
Absolutely unacceptable. I would be so pissed
Dirty hands inside, pouring coolant without a spout, driving on gravel road... so many fails in this video...
I am feeling the same way alex!
Driving it without checking the water circulation wasn't very bright either.
it was a turd in 84 and still a turd now. Yet still these clowns have no business messing with this car. Send it to Jay.
That car needs plastic on the seats and clean hands on the wheel/interior guys.
Yes...and floors !
Sais who ? Somebody always telling somebody else what to do, when they shouldn’t. That’s the defining a Karen.
@@jamescorfield534 Wow, straight for the jugular. Look if you owned that "BRAND NEW 1984" Civic, it's special. Paper Floor mats at a good mechanic is standard. Sometimes if they are awesome they put a plastic bag over the seat. This is to keep hard to remove stains off the interior. This Civic deserved that. If that makes me a "Karen" then so be it.
So you just cranked it? No borescoping the cylinders first? No piston lubricant? Don’t even care if the varnished fuel gets fed into the fuel lines? Sounds very bush league fellas! Honda Execs are cringing.
Yolo, but true. This deserved the extra mile treatment. If it was toyota it would have been ok
Other worry is the cambelt which could easily be brittle after so long. That;ll be a bent valve at the very least.
They did make sure to crank it without it actually starting which gets the cylinders all lubed up, which is what you normally do with a car that has not been started in a while with low mileage.
@BoomBox02 lmao, not with a factory stored classic from the manufacturer. If you have access to these type of products you should go above and beyond, not guessing as if it's a junkyard or auction car.
Let's just cut a bunch of corners and do a half-assed job in preparation of starting a 40 year old engine. Oh it broke, wonder what happened?
I,m sure it will be pretty much ruined when they get done with whatever they are going to do with it.
As soon as he hit the starter I had to quit watching, hacks.
@@arlo4051 yea they should have at least started with pulling the plugs. Inspect, especially look out for rust, pour a little ATF and go have a beer before even turning it over by the crank. Ugh. 😩
seriously, oil is fine?!
@@md64 no kidding, conventional oil degrades over time, every idiot knows this.
We need this car today. Something simple and inexpensive.
Government has made cheap cars a thing of the past !
Your government doesn't allow the production of such vehicles anymore.
Gonna have to bleed the EPA first
The government has determined that this car poses an existential threat to humanity.
You are all so full of it! It’s the “market” that has made cars like this mostly unavailable new today. If your are being truly handset with yourselves, something quite similar to this is available today, society and “car enthusiasts” in particular view simple cars like this as “for the poor” or “penalty boxes” look at trucks and suvs, these were not regulated into existence. In fact, the three largest us-american auto companies marketed those things into popularity with ideas of “safety” “ruggedness” “manliness” and lots of other nonsense. The ‘gubment is not causing your problems, you are.
I bet that honda rep wasn't too psyched the first drive was on dirt, AND you overheated it. NIce work. How on earth did they decide on you guys to recommission that car?!
they probaly paid the most..and gonna milk it in the next 20 videos....for the likes and views...lmao
@@lawnside82 AND they sprayed gas and coolant all over a museum grade engine bay! Facepalm
This was my first car in 1996 with just under 300k miles. Same color, same options. My dad bought it brand new in 1984 and gave it to me when I turned 16. What a great little car. I drove it to 350k miles then sold it and saw it still running around town almost 10 years later. It was a bit rusty by then but still kicking. So much room in it and it was a lot of fun to drive.
Cool that Honda is allowing you guys to showcase this 40 year old car
Honda know how to package a car for 40 years that the mice didn't destroy the car. Mice find their way into everything.
Big mistake when they cant even fix a lawn mower..
@@djsi38tIt’s because they need to change gas tank, lines, hoses, etc. you can’t find new parts for this. This is why Honda can’t sell it to public.
These were known as throw away cars. Cheap metal and parts that corroded and fell apart.
So they are gonna make with what they have and give good content while having fun and make money doing it.
It’s just a cheap Honda.
Honda knows how to package a small car to feel big and comfortable
*knew . they make crap now
@@Foxontherun2yeah I should only be able to get 300k out of my 24 CRV hybrid with basic maintenance. Real crap.
@@Foxontherun2 know*** troll, they make some of the best vehicles out there
@@eddymahon1503 you aint too good knowing the difference between millage and longevity are ya. I hope you think a vehicles age and millage are the same thing , i really hope youre that dumb.
@@user-do9ir8lv2m *made. they make crap now.
I can't believe you didn't change that old oil! Just because it looks gold doesn't mean it hasn't degraded.
Shouldn't have driven it for as long when you noticed the temp gauge climbing. Might have warped the block or head and blown the head gasket. Might not notice the head gasket until later.
TFL always keeps running vehicles when they're overheating, usually at WOT. lol.
@@RickysHPMaybe they were trying to reach the non-existent VTEC. 😅
exactly they were more worried about getting themselves back then damaging the engine
@@damothekiing Well, they were on a lonely dirt road... in 1984, no cell phones to call for help. Makes sense.
Yeah that made my teeth itch.
There is a bleeding process for coolant/thermostat changes.
There is a little bleed port near the thermostat (10mm) that needs to be opened to get the air out.
They love to overheat if its not done.
We used to jack up the front corner to bleed those , they could be very stubborn
Well NOW I know why my car used to overheat lol
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I’m sure they know that. Problem is old sensor won’t kick fans on to cool it. Bad technology back then.
On hot summer days, temps would climb in these. You had to crank heat up to drain it from engine.
So glad they don’t build them like this anymore.
1. This car does NOT have power steering. It is manual rack and pinion.
2. Please take those trash E3 gimmick plugs out of the car and put the proper NGK V-Power (copper) plugs in it. It will be happier.
If I recall correctly, it's 4 turns lock-to-lock, so pretty easy to steer. I had the exact same car. I probably would've just cleaned the original plugs!
@@gasolinefumes I’ve had plenty of old school late 80’s early 90’s rack & pinion (manual steering) Hondas.
I much prefer it over power steering. Feels like a go-cart with lots of feedback.
@@hondrta I currently drive a 2000 Insight. I removed the EPS and it has that 80s/90s steering feel now.
My OCD is driving me crazy watching you drive a museum piece with dirty grimy hands.
uh what now? its not a museum piece its just an old car thats not really that old... wtf are you smoking lol
@@LeFingal how is an 84 Civic, VIN #6 with 79 miles on it not worth some respect?
@@ifixthings86 It's a Honda... its a Civic, its not a ferrari, or a rare car, its not like you cant buy one used, and its ugly too, not much of an engine, not the comfort of a mercedes, its a car 1 year older than me, what's so special about this car? because it's a vintage? nah.... because it has 79 miles, well thats not so weird, because it was never eligible for sale, so it could not rly get more miles... nah you just have no clue about what cars that belongs in a museum pal.. a Ford-T sure, a honda civic hell no!
@@LeFingal Imagine pretending to be a car enthusiast with an attitude like this.
@@LeFingal Spencer is accurate. you are by no means an auto enthusiast and born into the wrong millennia to understand the importance of this car.
My wife and I purchased a twin of this car in 1985! Same exterior color, same interior with houndstooth fabric. It was our family car for 10 years with our two kids. Ours was a 5-speed and the only downside, (besides having to look at that seat pattern for 10 years!) was the 1.5 carbureted engine only made about 70 hp. On the highway with strong winds meant it was necessary to drop it into 4th to keep speed up.
By the way, this model was simply called the Civic Wagon. There was a separate model which looks the same called the Civic Wag-o-Van which was derived from a cheap commercial delivery vehicle for the Japanese market. That model looked the same on the exterior, but the rear seat backrest angle was almost completely vertical to provide more cargo storage space, and there were horizontal metal bars, midway up the large back side windows,to prevent cargo from damaging them. The Wag-o-van was basically just a cheaper version of the Wagon and did not sell in great numbers.
Thanks to Honda heritage for doing this!
They make it simple
35:40 I personally would have shut it down at this point (considering the vintage and special nature of the vehicle). If that gauge is just a little off…… I would have shut it down for sure, to let it cool off.
honda temp gauge from that era are known to be inaccurate. if it start moving from the mid point it's already too hot.
@@TJPDmemberExactly, its very common on a lot of cars actually to have heavily center weighted gauges so the customer feels 'safe' because the gauge doesn't waver around. I always work on the principle that anything over center in these cars means shut it down before you trash the head.
I love TFL and have been watching for a decade... but this was really amateur hour. The tank should have been removed and the lines replaced before any attempt to start was made. The carb could have come off ONCE and been rebuilt - or simply replaced.
It needs a new tank. That was the major problem. New gas just ate at the metal inside and turned to sludge.
Remember you can’t find parts. So they worked with what they had. They did it for fun.
@@ryanb8736 Many states still have places you can take a dismounted tank and have it boiled. They can coat the inside with a nice epoxy compound that seals any small rust holes and prevents delamination of any remaining coatings or stubborn lacquers.
I would like to see the 40 year old cambelt changed...Before it breaks and takes the engine out!
Timing Belt ASAP; 40 years, amazed it hasn’t broken.
That was my first thought. It might be fine based on the other rubber components being OK, but I would've at least looked at it!
AMC pacer ?
Glad someone said this, it was the first thing I was worried about! Very poor not to change it after all that time
Had an '84 Accord--similar engine, w/ the 3-barrel CVCC engine (1829cc, 86 BHP). Cambelt was a 60K item, so I had mine changed at 55K ("interference" engine)...The carburetors on those are very complex; when a poor-idling/stalling condition on mine couldn't be rectified by tuneups/carb-adjustments/cleaning, a new $900 carb was said to be "the only fix". Never found out for sure; I traded it in on a '91 Integra...
Build these cars exactly like that. Sell them for $9500 and you couldn't keep them on the lot. 5 speed manual with roll down windows? No air bags or nanny distracted driver's electronics! Very simple to maintain and repair.
Honest, affordable, great mileage, easy to drive, cheap and simple to maintain, and it's perfectly functional in this day and age. However, modern regulation would never allow such a car to built. That tells you just how much we've lost control of policy making in this country.
Honestly, I would change a few things about these cars, having owned a 1990. Disc brakes all around would be nice. No vacuum-controlled carburetor, fuel injection will give it near 100hp, and that's plenty. Timing chain instead of timing belt for longer life. I don't mind 400 extra pounds for safety features, unlike most. But yes, leaving the rest of it would make an entirely desirable car.
You wouldn’t be allowed to sell them today
It's very like the old heads at japanese companies like Honda understand this but government safety and economy regulations wouldn't allow for it.
Modern regulations kill anything like this for the North American Market. This is why India and China have 5K$ cars and we don't.
Common failure points on these were the carburetor insulator base and the two vacuum hoses at the base of the carb. in the back. Can't believe a "Honda guy" would use non-NGK spark plugs.
Probably was the tfl guys who bought those. I tried a set of E3’s on an ecoboost once. Lasted less than a year, maybe 6 months. Definitely the shortest-lived set of plugs I ever put on a vehicle. Great marketing but didn’t live up to it.
How to make a spotless 40 year old vehicle look like a 40 year old vehicle in less than one mile.
Good video but dang, I expected a little more "white glove" handling of a pristine vehicle. Dirty mechanic hands inside the car, driving down dirt roads, pouring coolant all inside the engine bay without a funnel, having to pull it with a winch. Sheesh. Was more of a sh*t show than expected.
I agree this car was rare as hens teeth
OMG, 1981 Honda Civic was my 1st car! It was stick shift too, so much fun...
My dad bought a 1985 one in 1987, with manual and 4wheel drive, it was our favorite car as kids to ride in and we thought it was the coolest looking car ever. I would love a low mile one today.
The 80s and early 90s were peak Honda. 😍
Honda started to decline from about ‘08-‘09..,. That was the last time a Honda Accord was reasonably popular, since then it’s popularity has declined.
Still the best secondhand car you can find.
@@paulsz6194 In my view, what made the 80's and early 90's Hondas so great was the "just right" designs and details. Exactly what you needed and nothing more, with jewel like engines. They are still well made vehicles, but that perfect size, design, etc. is gone.
@@whymaniawhy yes, they were. But the Koreans have overtaken Honda especially when it comes to Hybrids / EV’s , Honda was at the forefront in ‘99 when it released the Insight but for various reasons, failed to gain a sizeable share of the Hybrid market.
I'd say through the 8th Gen Civic.
My family owned several car dealers in the 70s through early 90s, including a Honda franchise. I was in high school in the mid 80s and these were sales duds. My uncle (who owned the Honda franchise), let me demo any of the vehicles on his lot. This was the vehicle he’d always want me to demo, because they wouldn’t sell. Looking at this vehicle with a modern lens makes this nostalgic and fantastic, however I can assure you that this was nothing more than a homely, cheap, reliable car during its time. My uncle couldn’t sell these. They’d sit on the lot for months, which is why he’d push these on me to demo.
I can Imagine worse carsto just get to drive for free. lol
@@RunawayTrain2502 my parents owned a GM franchise, you’re definitely right about that! My favorite demo was an Oldsmobile Trofeo with the touchscreen. It was absolutely mind blowing to me back then and seemed so futuristic.
"...homely, cheap, reliable car... " That is why I love it so much and wish someone made something like this today that was sold in the US.
So this guy is Head Honda Fanboy!!!! That is a sick job.
He's not very good at it - he doesn't know how to pull the choke out, cranks a car without checking the condition of the timing belt... yeah mediocre at best.
@@the_kombinatorWhy bother checking belt. They were not gonna replace it anyway. It was about getting it running while making content and having fun doing so.
It’s not like someone will be driving this around. It can’t be sold.
@@ryanb8736 LMAO I'm sure it'll be more interesting with bent valves and piston damage. Reeeeeeeeeeeeee
I am very touchy about above midway on the temperature gauge. Gives me the gripe !
I NEVER would have operated that engine, especially a vintage like that !
........and paved road to boot !
Trinidad & Tobago.
West Indies.
Honda temp gauges from the 80s are liars. When it starts moving off center it's already at 98C. Won't boil immediately but it's very close.
Easily one of my biggest minor complaints about my EF. I wish i knew of a way to make it like my Audi which has actual accurate gauges.
Parents had one back in the day. A terrific, versatile vehicle - fun to drive.
This was VERY COOL!!! Worthy of more content, as you get it up & running. Looking forward to it. A 40-41 year old NEW Honda. Wow!
I've got a 90 Mazda 323se that has not been started for 3 years. Went out yesterday and jumped it, started right up and runs like new. Went to press the clutch pedal and it was soft as cashmere. After I bleed the slave cylinder, with any luck I wont have to replace it, I'll be able to switch gears and get this baby back on the road. I am a veteran and was going through a rough few years but I'm returning back to society slowly and this car is my pride and joy. Such a fun car to putt around in and gets fantastic gas mileage. 250000 miles on the original engine and transmission, still runs smooth as glass. Hopefully all it needs is that bleed and not anything more. Fingers crossed. That is a beautiful civic I love these old 80s and 90s imports, they last forever and are way more reliable than most modern cars. What a great find. OG houndstooth pattern.
Why are you driving it you should of keep it at 69 miles and even taking it on a dirt road!!!!!
Poor car had to deal with a dirt road and greasy hands.
That is a collector’s item if I ever saw one! Not only a perfect, almost brand new car, but also an ultra-low number! It would be a CRIME to drive it more than a tiny bit, to get a better sense of it. Otherwise, it belongs in a museum.
If Honda would build a car this simple right now, at a reasonable price, they couldn't build them fast enough.
Government won’t allow that.
@@waterloo123100 Fuck the government!!! I would rather have a tiny fuel efficient slow car than any fast huge gas hog.
This brings back memories of working on Hondas from that era. One vacuum line blocked, moved, or slightly damaged in any way, the car ran terrible and it was a nightmare to figure out what line had the issue. I loved this era of Honda, but people hated working on them for this exact reason. It’s nice to see it again. It brings back memories of me helping my dad work on it with my dad cussing at our 84 civic. 😂
My dad had one for a rural mail route. It went 325,000 mikes, one alternator, starter, numerous brake rotors and pads, tires, window regulator. Our Honda saw mountain terrain, snow, took an absolute pounding. Ours was gray. Remarkable car. My parents are now no longer with us, thanks for the memories, you guys rock.
Omg after 40 years AND YOU DIDNT PRELUBE THE CYLINDERS?! I’m shocked at this…..
and ran it with ether... just to make sure any hope of lubrication is gone
It's refreshing to see the younger generations interested in these old cars. As always Kase and Tommy make a great duo! Looking forward to the journey with this. Btw I'm sorry for the negative comments. Keep up the awesome content!
Really awesome video. I started driving in the mid 80's in a 1976 Honda Civic Wagon. Super simple 4 speed manual, no power steering, manual windows and door locks and so much fun to drive.
Too small to sleep in Wagon !
I’m seeing this 13 days after it was released, reading the comments before watching it. Now I can’t watch it knowing they didn’t do or show a lot of things that should’ve been basic maintenance. Seeing how those wipers degraded, it should be obvious that anything under the car made of rubber would need replacing. Checking the inside of the engine for rust would also be a great thing to do. Draining all fluids should have definitely been done, including the gas.
Was timing belt replaced ?
Nah, just fill it up with gas and drive it.
That car honestly needs a full service to drive to California. Change all the fluids, all the belts and rad hoses, brake hydraulics, rebuild the carburetor properly, THEN drive it carefully and see how it goes. Why take a chance. I always ask my customers...would you fly in an airplane that was last serviced in 1984? So why drive it down the highway at 65mph....things get exciting at 15-20mph when there are no brakes....ask autotopiaLA
@@jdc5577 A vehicle like this shouldn't be driven more than around the parking lot, driving it on the public roads is 100% going to cause damage. By the time it gets there, every dried out old gasket and so on will be pissing fluid everywhere, just leave it on display.
Most of the 80s cars had zero options. The dealer would install the AC and extra mirror. They would sell import trucks with no rear bumper…. I was in high school in 87 and my brother purchased a Nissan hardbody pickup with 4x4 and a lift. Ironically no AC and no extra mirror till he purchased one a year later. I will say though, the 80s in my eyes was an awesome time to be a teenager. Really cool….oh forgot to add, I had 2 CRXs from that time frame as a kid. Loved them, were amazing and completely reliable no matter how you drove them. Honda and Toyota built some amazing cars back then. I owned 2 different Mr2s as well, come to think of it, I have owned over 70 cars in my 50 years of life lol… I have a isssue..😅😅😅😂😂😂😂😂😂
I bought a 1985 Toyota Tercel hatchback in January with 133,000 miles on it. Pretty clean virtually no body rust as it lived in Florida before it came to the Midwest. It sat in a storage trailer for 20 years. Same thing as the Honda in this video, the fuel was very bad and the carb was all gummed up. Was able to flush out old fuel and rebuild the carb with new gaskets and clean out the jets/float. The car just purrs now. It still needs more work but you don’t see many of these cars anymore so best to try and keep the ones that are out there preserved.
I love that manufactures preserve regular ol cars like these. I know they’re just big hunks of metal but they’re a part of history. We can look at these old brand-new cars and really see how far we have (or haven’t, depending on who you ask) come
Antifreeze removes paint. You guys should’ve used a funnel
It’s an 80s time machine! Good job guys!
Family crab you need ?
That's a truly classic Houndstooth textile pattern that's been around since the Bronze Age
My wife and I bought one of these brand new in 1984. Drove it 330,000 'miles' with no repairs at all, excepting for putting in a used clutch at 220,000 miles. When I finally let it go the engine still ran 'perfectly', and had never been opened up; likewise the whole drive train. The thing was great fun to drive; it was peppy and handled like a little sports car. Loved that car.
So you did no repairs at all, but you changed the clutch? You can’t have it both ways 😂
You lost all credibility!
@@ryanb8736 Replacing the clutch plate is like replacing the brake pads. It's not a repair inasmuch as it's a maintenance item on ALL manual transmission cars.
Well done kase Alex and tommy. So proud of you. Love ya
Mechanic here, please please please change out those E3 spark plugs and put some proper NGKs back in that engine. E3 plugs are absolute junk and I can't tell you how many times I've had a engine come in non running with no spark that was just one of the junk E3 plugs.
Came here to say this exactly. I've wrenched on torsion bar Hondas for 20 years and can attest to how much they need proper OEM spec plugs. E3... 🤦♂️
Wow, what a beauty. My first car was a 1985 Honda Civic CRX, the base model (not the HF or Si). The front end was identical to the Civic. I drove the wheels off that car, kept it even after acquiring a 1997 Honda Accord and a F150. I drove it until 2006. Rust had really got to it, and the front plastic panel broke from sun exposure. I gave it to a young clerk at AutoZone who was into Hondas in 2007. It had 354,000 miles on the odometer. Still did not use a drop of oil, never been rebuilt. It never left me stranded.
I bought a 1990 Honda CRX Si on eBay in 2008. Love the CRX. My current daily driver is a 2015 Honda Accord Hybrid.
LOVED the video, generations of men working together towards getting a machine up and running - a joy to see, I almost felt I was on the team!
THIS is what we need in the states! A small affordable compact car to get us from A to B, im so sick of giant sedans that START at $30,000 dollars
i know a guy who can buy $70K cars, but he drives a honda like that :D
I LOVE these old Hondas! Thanks for this content - it's awesome.
Never in my life as a car guy would I have ever thought I would get excited about a 1984 Honda Civic station wagon. When that car first came out I would turn my nose up at ANYTHING that wasn't a musclecar or a European luxury car. Now? I would TOTALLY rock that. TOTALLY.
I have a 2014 Honda Civic Tourer, which was the station wagon sold by Honda in Switzerland at the time (discontinued by 2018).
Seeing this 1984 one, so fascinating in comparison.
Mine has 55,000 miles on the clock, though. (1.8 gas engine, stickshift.)
Hero
The Shuttle 4x4 you meant, use wiki to see we what it was.
Many cheap Asian imports in Swiss, cheap 4x4 cars.
Who called you a Hero, what did you do ?
I would have removed the plugs and sprayed some good lubricant in there and let it soak into the rings.
Thank you, Tommy. I owned an 84 Civic, bought in 1994 with 100k, drove for 3 years 50k, just a grocery cart but reliable
Perfect small car for a young family. We used to go on camping holidays with 3 kids. We were packed in like sardines, but no roof rack and no trailer. Great fuel mileage, and very reliable.
We had this same model year with the US "wagovan" moniker. ISTR the seats were vinyl, definitely not houndstooth, and ours had AC. We did vacations from socal to utah with a family of 5 and a roof rack. We had to turn off AC going up hills, and I have no idea how we all fit. My sister and I both learned to drive on it, and after it was totaled by a head-on collision vs a median-hopping Ford Granada almost a decade later, we replaced it with a similar vintage 2-door honda wagon that lasted into the late 90s before it succumbed to the harsh winters of the midwest and colorado when my sister took it to college.
If that car is an interference engine, I would had to at least do the timing belt, certainly after doing thenbasics of figuring out that it will start, beyond that certainly the two valve springs that were stuck open for 40 years might be shot and be waiting to drop a valve. The fuel system wasn't completely shot probably because it wasn't ethanol fuel, I would ve concerned that if you began using ethanol fuel that those would begin to degrade rapidly so I would have looked for 100% gasoline for it, even of it meant buying the lawn equipment fuel in little jugs at walmart that is 100% gas, the carb needed rebuilt or at least opened up so the needle seat, floats and everything works.
Problem is corrosion inside fuel tank. It needs to be changed, but you won’t find a new one anywhere. So they just made it run with what simple resources they had.
This video was about fun content. They also know upset people making comments makes them millions. That’s their end goal.
This car will go back to museum and never be driven again probably. It can’t be sold.
Should have covered the paint and he should have washed his hands better before it’s first start. Oil on steering wheel, shifter, door handle etc.
I wouldn't let these guys get my lawnmower running.
My first new car was a 1980 Honda Civic with the 1500cc motor. It was a 2 door hatchback and had a 2-speed automatic transmission. No power steering, power brakes, or power windows. Air conditioning...are you kidding? Great little car.
One thing I learned while working on my 90's Honda's, never, ever mess with the vacuum system because you will be there for a long, long time figuring it out. Carb Wizard could do with investing in an ultrasonic cleaner maybe, might save him some coin with all those carb cleaner sprays.
In the video they said he took it back to his shop and cleaned it with an ultrasonic 3 times.
Watch the video. He used one three times.
With a "6" in the VIN, it's probably car #1 off the retail production line (1-5 being test mules and destroyed).
Prosthetic beige. Interesting color choice honda.
The ash trays are low so that when the windows are open, the wind doesnt blow the ash out of the ash tray.
Suede Beige! I had one the same color!
What a fun and rare opportunity! Really cool to see that Honda is embracing their history by not only opening that museum, but also the fact that they managed to hang on to and preserve this 40 year old Civic. These cars had a huge role in Honda's success and massive growth they saw during the 80s. What a neat little car, hopefully you guys can get it sorted out and running properly soon!
I owned an all wheel drive of the same exact car in 1994, when i bought it , it had 35K miles, light mettalic blue , beige interior, I sold the car in 1997 after it overheated multiple times and had carb issues, I think i put about 110K miles, if i remember the car was not so reliable, I worked on it all the time. brought lots of memories, Thanks for showcasing this beauty
I’d be afraid driving that around today considering how there are so many huge trucks out there as well as cars being so much more powerful today.
People would be tailgating the little Honda constantly 😢
Bc other drivers don’t know to how to give space and be considerate to other drivers and everybody’s always in a hurry these days with a chance of causing accidents.
@@AbandonedExplorationUrbex1979 I drive a 1989 Volvo 240 with over 300k miles. It was a slow car when new, I know all to well about the giant trucks getting mad because I am not going from 0 to 80 MPH in 2 seconds.
Theres a lot of cars and trucks and suvs man those are always the top 3. Dont be scared wussy grow a pair and live a little
Why be afraid, there were big trucks driving around when these were new. I had a new 85 Honda Accord LX in 85 and a 72 Chevy heavy half pu. Its not the vehicles - it's people that are the problem!
@@robb4866 Yes, it is the people driving them. It just so happens that most of the people who are going to drive like that are driving the trucks and SUVs and not a Toyota Corolla or something like that. If I were afreaid, I would get a larger vehicle. I have a 1995 Tercel as well which I drive more than the other car, and it is a little tin can. I can't speak for the other person who is afraid, but for me it is just highly annoying to have a giant truck riding 2 inches from your bumper, flashing their lights, and getting mad when you are absolutely flooring it anyway. And then half of the time they fly around and slam on the brakes.
Great video! I have a 1984 Honda CRX which is mechanically identical to this, except mine has a 3 speed automatic. I'm also running the factory Keihin carb in mine. I don't like the way swapping out to a Weber carb changes the under hood appearance. I've gone through a lot of the same things with my CRX that you guys have gone through in this video. One additional issue that the 1st gen CRX has is plastic body panels that get brittle and crack over time.
Great video guys, what a blast from the past !!
As a honda tech from that era , you needed me. I never removed those carbs to clean them out , the metal fuel filter by the carb just has a screen inside , the main fliter is by the gas tank. The rubber carb base on those were prone to warp and cause a lean condition. That wasnt a great engine to me , it needed perfect maintence to last
My mom had one, the AWD version, I believe a 1987 model. It was one of two vehicles I learned to drive a manual on. It was that same color too. The radio and A/C were add-ons. You had to upgrade to that stuff. Old cars were bare bones in the greatest extent. This was an idea Scion was going to try to be in newer cars. I think it's something that should come back, but car companies don't really design the cars right to be modular like this. This kind of stuff needs to be planned from the ground up, and auto makers just don't make the effort. Plus they like selling the higher trims with higher margins and profit dollars per car sold.
Dealer add ons are terrible. Everything should be done at factory. No car should ever come without AC, mirrors, etc. They only did it so manufacturing was cheap. They had to cut cost. They let dealer make the extra money. They still sell the part anyway.
Please please please ensure that this car is preserved for posterity and not wrecked or allowed to deteriorate
My family had one of these for a while back in the day. It was fun as heck!
First things first drain the old oil and fill with fresh oil then install new oil filter.
#2 to avoid dry crank remove spark plugs injector oil into each cylinder that manually turn the engine over 3 or 4 times complete cycles.
#3 if gas tank is empty fill the tank with fresh gasoline.
Replace timing belt and other belts .
This video is only for fun test drive. It will go back and sit at showroom forever. Nobody will drive it after this. Car can’t be sold.
So no point in changing parts.
I would love to have a car like that, the only problem is that one is so damn nice you couldn't drive it, it's too museum for me, I would want to drive the heck out of it .
I had this exact model, but it blue. Great little car. Served as my pickup truck for my first home reno. Extremely reliable, and such a flexible interior. Only two downsides: crappy heat in a CDN winter, and noisy interior, exp on the highway. Used it until the back axle rusted off.
That looks almost exactly like our old 1986 Honda Civic Wagovan! Ours was the exact same colour and we drove it from 1986 until 2001. I grew up with that car and learned to drive on it! Carbureted motor, very fuel efficient, great little car.
wonder how the rust started under the rocker panels here: 4:55
plastic panel center of screen here: 9:15 typical 1980s plastic fittings
Looks like a last minute mod by Honda to keep the driveline from falling out: 15:34
Full 1980s Honda experience lol: 38:07
I worked on a Chev back in the 1970's the carb was gummed up throughout also strangely someone tried to spray paint it no idea why..removed all rubber and plastic parts and diaphragms.."Hot Tanked" it and not a bit of gumming was left anywhere..i assume "Hot Tanks" are not around anymore because not "environmental friendly" and a bit dangerous..
Hot Tanks back in the 1970s were solvent (usually kerosene) kept at high temp (200F) and the part was dunked in and left for 24 hours the tank had a pump to keep the liquid in motion
That looks like dirt, not rust. Last minute mod? Not sure what you mean.
You're seeing things
Thank god you brought an adult to the video that knows what he is doing without you guys ruining the top end
That's very cool. My wife and I bought a brand new , base manual ,1986 16 valve Honda Civic. We couldn't afford a radio or air conditioning or floor mats. These didn't come standard like now. It never used a drop of oil and drove thru snow easily without snow tires. It finally rusted dry badly but was still running like a champ when we sold it. Much later we got Base 2013. It felt like a space ship with all the standard equipment it had.
With all the competition in the small car business compared to then cars come very much loaded. Our Old Civic had none of that. Great Car the 86, it had fuel injection and a unheard of at the time ,16 valves.
I bought a 1989 CRX Si that was parked for 7 years without starting. My buddy got it started the same day that I purchased it. Changed mostly fuel related parts. Since then, I’ve driven it various 400 mile and 200 mile round trips. Honda motors are truly bulletproof.
Old car waking from its slumber what a wonderful timepiece definitely needs all fluids flushed probably other routine services be a nice little car for the museum after some time and care to the vehicle.
Those were great years!
Year later added alloy wheels. And aero jeadlights
Bought one of these in 1984. Loved to room in the rear with the seats folded down. Great car. Learned my lesson to change the timing belt at the right time. New head and I has good to go for another 40,000 miles. As I recall, the dealerships were adding extra money on top of the sticker price as they were in such short supply. Still miss that car!
What a treat watching this video! This was my first new car purchase in’84 only it was sky blue. The seats would fold completely flat including the front seats. We camped in it several times. I remember seeing stars through the top of the back window sleeping in it. So versatile and pretty fun to drive as well.
This is awesome! Definitely shows why you never want to let gas sit in a carb over a long period of time. I only have one critique, towing with a winch line? Come on guys…haha I know you had a strap in the shop. Great video tho as always!
FINALLY. Also, that pattern is "Houndstooth."
My brother owned a 94 Civic wagon surf racks it was amazing.. absolutely loved that car.. super good on gas amazing room it was phenomenal.. of course they made room for the CRV..
One of the first things I would do is take off the Windshield wiper arms before someone hits the WW switch and those arms come up and ruin the windshield. AND replace what ever is keeping the brake lights on before the battery runs down and the constant on bulbs melt the plastic of the brake light housing from heat buildup.
Proof that letting a car sit without running ever is death. This car should of been driven every 3 months even just to operating temperature with fresh fuel even once a year. It would still have super low miles as of today.
Your right atleast a few times a year and follow regular maintenance tio
No point. They wanted to keep it with no miles as a show piece for all these decades.
Now that car isn’t worth much and can’t be sold, this is all about making a fun video.
Keep in mind, these were throw away cars. It was a 5k car new.