Yea, I always like the road trips best too. Reminds me of the Top Gear Cheap car challenges, I could see James May driving this. Very interesting seeing the time capsule Honda. Thx
"You ruined it by driving it that much" exactly as Honda (the owners) told you to do. You absolutely did not ruin it. You gave it an adventure before going back to the museum. Awesome job as always!
They were truly bulletproof. I know I worked at a Honda store in the service shop back in the mid-80s to early 90s. They hardly ever had major issues, mostly only regular service needed! They were just that good!
@@jojothetasmaniansassmonkey8866 Thing is that big trucks have been around since forever, including semi tractors..That lifted F350 will get crushed just the same by that semi... see how that works? Living in fear is for chumps.
@@horseathalt7308 I don't know how some of these people even get out of bed every day. I assume the thought of getting on a motorcycle makes them poop themselves.
No car can be ruined by being driven - it’s the only way to preserve one. Also, love the mint-green glow behind the gauges - classic. LOVE this series ❤
TFL, This is one of the best videos you have ever done. You were respectful in your approach to the Civic wagon without being sentimental. I have one request to make to Honda: If it is too much to ask to bring back the Civic wagon, can we at least have as much front and rear headroom in today's massive Civic hatch as this tiny 1984 model?
@@jayhiggins5239 I am not sorry at all because I have been living the Pontiac Vibe dream since 2005. The Vibe offers plenty of headroom and practicality in a small package.🤯🤯 Did you know Honda makes a Fit/Jazz wagon called the Shuttle?
My 2013 1.5l Honda fit was an amazing car and had the simple 90’s engine and regular geared auto 5 speed transmission Not the CVT the 1st and 3rd generation had.
My moms was and 86 same lol I would sit on my dads lap and he would let me shift. He had a old 70s 3 speed hatch back honda I can still recall the smell of that thing hot foam no AC in the NC summers :D
@@stevelouie5928 Thats what color the little bits of paint were lol Mostly rust and this was in the 90s. Think my dad told me that sat at the port for some reason exposed to salt air.
@@EnlistedBombin later on my first car ended up being an 87 accord hatch with a carb engine. It was old and burned oil, no a/c or power steering, but it started every day and I even drove it as a courier driver for a year in Toronto (brutal traffic and actually really hot in summer). Even the crappy Honda’s were still able to get the job done every day.
My 2007 Honda Fit Sport reminds me so much of the old Civics, last Honda that feels like the older ones. Mine has 262k miles and still runs and drives great.
As someone who had an 84 prelude, 91 Prelude 4ws and 94 Accord and now a FK8 Type R so great to see Honda cares about sharing their cars with the world.
Such a great vid on so many levels! As a Trucker, Ive been over 70 hundreds of times over a 20+ year career and this vid only rekindled my love for Colorado. You and Case were fantastic in this vid! The commentary was spot on! Both of you were able to communicate your passion, knowledge and excitement throughout the entirety of the vid and I watched all 44 minutes of it. Well done ,gentlemen!
I had a brand new 84 CRX with the same engine in Denver, that engine probably worked better in the much lighter, more aerodynamic CRX. It would easily go over 100 MPH and get in the 40s MPGs. Because of the finicky carburetor I traded it for an injected new 87 Red Civic Si like the second car you have there. It had AC and a good stereo, pure sporty luxury . I let my friend drive it and he got a ticket for 112MPH outside Fairplay, CO. Neither car was slow. Both cars were a blast to drive. If you yank the hand brake at about 25 MPH 180 turns are a snap, if you want to try it. We were very young and as bullet proof as the Hondas, can't believe I've made to old age alive. Thanks for bringing back such fond memories!
Ah yes, the much enjoyed "Bootlegger" technique when you have someone following that you don't want following anymore when driving 25 MPH. Or just for the hell of it. :)
My 1990 CRX would do perfectly round spins if you cranked the ebrake at any speed. There were times I did 3 or 4 full revolutions steering it under control all the way. The perfectly square wheel base was great. Bought it brand new for $9865 adding air conditioning. My dad was a Honda salesman. The dealer made $110 before the a/c install labor. Not a big money maker for Norm Reeves Honda Superstore. Just brought home a 2025 Civic Sport Touring Hybrid Sedan 5 days ago. A phenomenal car. Had a 1985 Civic Hatchback in light metallic blue. I despised that no a/c 1300cc car. It was painfully slow but got the job done.
I bought one of these new in 1984 except mine was a 4wd model with a six speed, i averaged over 32 mpg. i was awesome in the snow and rainy weather. i had no issues until a Honda dealership neglected to change the timing belt at a scheduled maintenance and it failed bending the valves. at around 120K miles. it was a great car!
I had a 1.5l accord 1985 manual the timing belt broke at 250k miles I just put a new belt on and drove it another 300k miles they had non interference engines
Honda’s engineering on everything they build is so Refined, their motorcycles, their 🚗 cars, and even their lawnmowers, my favorite will always be the Honda CT -70, great series 👍🏻👏🏻
My '84 Civic Wagon was probably my all-time favorite car: simple, rugged, light, spacious and efficient. I bought it with 130k or so and put well over another 150k on it before someone smashed it while parked. It took me all over the Pacific Northwest, camping and exploring, and took my wife and I on a 3-month road trip around the States when she graduated. I've had many other vehicles over the years but am back in the closest I can get to that wagon - a 2009 Honda Fit.
I enjoyed watching you young folk (except Andy, of course) finding the joys of an eighties road trip! Never quite sure if you would make it, but almost always did! A real adventure!!
I had been looking forward to this video for awhile. It did not disappoint. I knew the little Civic would make it! I thought it was very cool that you invited Andy to go along on the trip after all the work he put in. What a fun adventure for you guys and that great little car. I surprised myself by becoming a little emotional when Tommy and Andy drove the Civic on the grounds for the crowd to see it. Awesome video, keep up the great work guys.
24:56 I miss watching my analog odometers rolling over because it’s so satisfying. Digital odometers “rolling over” are anticlimactic and very easy to miss
Your description of the "active driving experience" is spot on. I have the same experience in my 1970 Beetle, being forced to slow down and really envelop yourself in the full participation of driving. Also, that little Civic is rad! Well done!👏
Nice road trip with that little beauty, and also fantastic work there from Andy. ~31 mpg isn't bad at all for a 40 year old vehicle. I can definitely see myself using this as an errands vehicle
Had a 1986 Honda Civic when I was in UK; was a one family car & got it in 1998 with close to 95K on the odo. I put in a bit over 6K & sold it a few months later. I did a number of weekend trips & it was a no-nonsense, reliable car... Earlier this year I saw one a 1990 at a Costco parking lot & it was looking great (including the original paint). The owner was in all smiles when i stopped to talk to him about both of our experiences in owning similar Civics. Even my 2000 Accord lost a lot of Clear coat.
I had an ‘83 wagon. Different body style, but very similar engine. Also no ac or power steering. Only option mine had was a 3-speed auto. Despite that, I took it from Dallas to Kalamazoo and regularly averaged roughly 32-35mpg. At probably 70 mph. That was 30 years ago. A friend of mine totaled that car at a 4-way stop into a Jeep Cherokee. I miss it, I installed a fantastic stereo with Jensen 6x9’s and a pair of 8” woofers. Black Crowes sounded amazing!
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I worked for Honda's ad agency in the 80's Rubin Postaer & Assoc and remember driving this wagon with all wheel drive up to the sierra's and how fantastic it was.
@TFLClassics *I worked at a Honda store in West Chester PA back when BOTH these models were sold, and they were great cars* I drove them numerous times a day to do the PDC on them. Great memories and great co-workers at the dealership.
I had a 85 Honda Civic Sedan. The car was so solid and this trip brought back so much memories. I put on 132k miles on that car with many long trips all across America from the late 80’s.
I had an ‘89 Honda civic hatchback DX in the mid-late 90’s. Gold color. It was a great little car. Drove it from Oregon to Colorado. It was getting 50-something mph on the freeway driving through Wyoming. I thought the fuel gauge was broken for a bit. It sucked driving up the mountains around Boulder though 😂
This was magnificent and a bit scary with the trucks going by. Tommy’s speech was magnificent. I can’t be more proud of you two. You did it. 21:05 My favorite part heard the emotion. And nostalgia. ❤.
Sadly my first civic went to the junkyard. Two years earlier it came out of a junkyard, a week later it drove untested Mn to Austin Tx. It was 87 blue awd 6spd with 250k. I still have the transmission and oem block, its ready to be bored over. When finished it will have d16z6 head and garret turbo running on Hondata ecu or micro squirt (for diagnostic support.) To keep awd will convert to 97 escape rear diff really like the interior (ex is the pop up center vent, absolutly flat seating fold down, and finally the reclining rear seat) The suspension is so long legged and compliant, a sub compact that feels like a cadillac Thank you for a shot of nostalgia
I drove my 1977 Datsun F-10 hatchback from Maryland to Arizona three times. No cc, only 80hp, power nothing. The only problem I ever had is the throttle stuck wide open one time, which isn’t too bad with only 80hp. I fixed it on the shoulder with a can of WD-40.
I remember this car from my childhood. I think it was the late '80s. I lived in the Netherlands at that time, 12 or 12 years old. My friends mum had one, Blue. And do you know how many kids you can stash in there? She drove use to the swimming pool and scouts every week with at least 7 kids! Can you imaging? 2024, and have 7 kids in a vehicle like this? one on the front seat, 4 on the backseat and 2 or 3 in the booth. And THAT was the best spot; riding backwards, waving at other people and watching the clouds through those two little roof windows!! Great memories, great times....
I absolutely have loved the '84 Civic Saga! It's how I found about TFLclassics! I must've done a search for something on our '87 Civic Sedan and the UA-cam algorithms brought to their channel. The timing was impeccable for the '84 Wagon debut as I decided to take our '87 Sedan to that same Cars, Bikes, & Coffee at American Honda in Torrance, CA. Tommy, Kase, and Andy took an immediate liking to our little classic, "Clifford Blue" (named after my Wife's Great Uncle). It was a kick meeting them! Yeah, this is Brian with the blue sedan toward the end. I was humbled and honored by the TFL guys' enthusiastic interest in our automotive survivor. The icing on this cake was watching the '84 Wagon being reintroduced to the museum. I want to extend my sincere thanks to TFLclassics for allowing me and our car to be a part of this historic event!
This is so cool. I had the predecessor to this car and this car. It was my experience with the late 70s mid 80s Hondas that made me a Honda buyer for life. For the time they were fast enough and this car was an upgrade over my previous car because this car had a five speed. Just sweet little engines. Overall, just great cars.
Thank you Honda and TFL for this wonderful trip down memory lane. I graduated hs in '83 and married in '86 and though I never owned this model of Honda, they were basically regarded as bulletproof and actually difficult to purchase in the Midwest. Isn't it sad that 40 years has passed and fuel mileage has barely improved at the sake of complexity and reliability.
That simplicity has a lot of appeal. I worked at a car sales company for 2 years driving a 9 car hauler, and one of my favorite vehicles I hauled was a simple, manual everything, open everything Jeep Wrangler. It was short wheelbase, solid axels, and as simple as possible, and was an absolute pleasure to drive.
I have absolutely loved this series. A bunch of my friends had Hondas back in the 80s. All were manuals. Compared to other cars I drove back then, Hondas had very good 5-speeds. Anyway, this series is yet another reason why TFL has been and remains my top source when it comes to videos. I suppose the question now is: what's next?
@@TFLclassics I'm in Halifax, NS, so it's later in the morning. But for you guys I believe it's around 7:30am. My question: don't you guys take a day off?! It's Sunday morning! You should be enjoying your coffee and the highlights from last night's game (let's go, Dodgers!), not responding to comments.
Love that your shirt matches the upholstery fabric ! On the subject of having to actually drive the car - that is the problem with road trips today. No one is engaged in actually driving! Too much speed, too little attention.
I think you summarized things very kindly. After my early decades driving cars with 80 - 110 hp, I would say today we have too much horsepower controlled by too little IQ.
I had a 1974 or 76 Honda CVCC, no emissions required due to its system of the lean fuel mixtures, it was an extremely reliable car. It had the am radio 1 speaker upgrade. 4 speed transmission which used the same oil as the transmission 30 weight! 12” tires, manual choke! Just lacked AC in Texas! Not good but at 50 MPG couldn’t beat ownership cost.
In 1985 my wife and I bought that exact car, same color, same cloth interior, same everything except it was one year newer than your 84. It was our family car - the first new car we could afford. I seem to remember it cost about $8500 and ours had AC and radio and we paid extra for the optional passenger side mirror - so much more fancy! We drove it for 12 years as a family of four. The only negative thing I can say about it is the rear seatbelts did not have shoulder straps - just lap belts only.
I owned a 1978 Honda Accord hatchback with a 5-speed manual. It was the most fun to drive car I’ve ever had. FWIW, the Civic has grown a lot over the years to where the Civic of today is about the same size as that Accord.
My 1992 Honda civic has the 1.5 engine with 70 horsepower and no power steering. Manuel transmission and the original engine has 200k miles and doesn’t use any oil and has no leaks. Those old cars are great.
My 1982 Honda Accord Sedan 5 speed was my most reliable car ever and it drove so well! I had the dealer installed air conditioning, plus factory power steering, power brakes, cruise control and an excellent Pioneer Supertuner AM/FM/cassette stereo.
Enjoyable video, brings back lots of memories of driving cars back in the day. First car I drove was a 1968 Opel Kadet station wagon with a 4-speed manual. It got me where I needed to go, but not in any hurry. Patience was a virtue and passing took forever.
On Derek Bieri's Vice Grip garage he just rescued a high mileage 86 CRX w/ the same motor. He literally just yanked all the vacuum and temp ignition and carburetor set-up off and plugged all fluid plugs and capped off the vacuum lines and put a new Weber carb on it and it was getting 35+ mpgs and ran 700 miles home. You dont even need it.
I was glued to that video yesterday! The whole 3 hour tour of a video that it was. I can’t even begin to say how hard that was to preserve the civic wagon. I went through the exact same problems he did. I really wanted to put a Weber on it. I had done a lot of those swaps back in the day. The museum part of this car made it a preservation. Most of my career was doing what Derek did. This was one of the more difficult make run repairs because I really had to preserve original parts. And like Derek said, it was difficult at best to get parts. I have a ton of content on my journey to get this down the road and back to Cali. Maybe I could talk Tommy and Kase into that part of the story to tell. Thanks for your comment!
37:05 ,one of my friends had the very same exact Civic Si back in 1986 & had it for over 25 years before shipping it overseas, it's also still on the road today
I remember my old man talking about his work at the time was requiring managers to have a 4-door sedan and they would pay for it. He chose a 1984 Honda Accord LX in that sky blue color they had back then. Automatic but it had power windows, locks and A/C. We were amazed at how nice it was and it was. Expensive too. $13k if memory serves.
I remember that car came out when I graduated from boarding school! What an awesome journey to take it from Colorado back to California! That 1986 Honda Civic Si is one I remember well when I was in college.
Awesome and Epic. Honda really had it going on in the 1980s and 1990s and they ploughed their own unique furrow as well, never tempted to just copy others. 3 Amigos in a Wee Civic Shuttle as it was called in Ireland and the UK. 🥰👍🇮🇪☘️
I passed my driving test in our family’s 1986 with Hondamatic semi-automatic transmission. It was gold in color with orange and brown plaid interior. I always loved the rear quarter panel windows that wrapped up onto the roof.
Before I could afford my first car, my best friend bought a white 1986 Honda Si and it was the coolest thing I'd ever been in up to that point. A few years later I bought a silver 1989 Honda DX hatchback, and paid $11,500 out the door. I had that car until 2019.
My first Civic was a 1988 sedan. My friends and I took MANY road trips with it. Then I bought a 1997 Civic brand new (which I still have) 383,000 miles and many road trips later, she still runs like a champ! The only carbureted car I've owned was a 1986 Honda Accord that I bought as a 2nd "fun" car in 2001. I only went on one road trip with it, but I enjoyed it. (A friend needed a car and so I sold it to him, and sadly, it got totaled a week later (it wasn't his fault)
I remember as a young teen when these cars were new. Same year, the CRX came out. The Wagovan was my favorite though. What a practical car, with good build quality. Glad you guys took her on a maiden voyage. Sure, id like her to stay a museum piece, but at the same time? You guys got to experience a car that most people never have! Awesome video!!
This is SUCH a nostalgic series for me. I had a charcoal grey one- ‘85, I think? I’ve been a leadfoot my entire life, and flogged it hard on the highway during many long vacation trips with camping gear and either 2 or 3 kids. No Colorado mountains, but it spent a lot of time on hilly Northern Ontario terrain. Never missed a beat in 150,000km. Only traded it because we had another child and needed a larger vehicle.
Loved your trip! FYI, back in the "day" , I owned a 79 Accord, an 81 Accord LX, an 84 CRX, a 86 Civic Si, a 88 Acura Intergra LS, and the last one was a 88 CRX Si.
Geeat video! Brought back memories of my 85' CRX Si. I have owned over 30 cars in my lifetime and the CRX is the only one I regret not keeping . It had the least amount of power but the driving experience was unmatched. My daily is 2010 Civic coupe w/155K miles and not a single thing has broken on it! Honda's reputation is well deserved .
Fantastic video! My mom had an '87 Civic sedan identical to Brian's car. Hers had a black vinyl bra, and she paid $4000 for it. She bought it from a family friend. She gave it to me when I got my driver's license. I truly hope that you guys do more videos like this. 👏
I took a road trip from southern Michigan to Kansas City with a friend and her similarly-de-contented CRX. Aside from hearing loss and being par broiled in mid-summer midwestern weather, the far-from factory fresh CRX hummed right along! Heavy truck traffic on the Interstate was only moderately terrifying.
We have been Honda owners since 1990. Currently driving a 2008 CRV EXL Navi for our business. Purchased brand new and still an unbelievable vehicle after almost 18 years!
I had just turned 11 at this point in 1984, so not old enough to drive yet but I have many memories of cars from that time. My mother was driving a Thunderbird from the early 80s. I remember it being striking how much different the little "foreign" cars like this civic were from the big American cars I was used to seeing. Great video guys! I can always count on TFL crew to put out awesome videos!
Yes, small cars were small back then. For the record, that early 80s Thunderbird would almost fit in the trunk of an early 70s T-Bird. By 2024 things have all evened out. Many "American" cars are now made in Mexico, Korea or PRC while the new Audi RS6 super wagon weighs as much a a Ford Country Squire from 1975.
Awesome stuff, guys - keep it up! If you ask me, a stock, classic car that gets driven is far more impressive that one that sits inside a building its entire life. Ignore anyone who says it's ruined - that's nonsense.
One trip in my 86 Honda Civic Ci I went into the I 70 tunnel in clear blue skies & came out the other side in a huge blizzard! The only thing that was a bit scary was the slush coming off the trucks! As I mentioned before the Si handled everything well had plenty of pep, with good radio, cassette deck, heating, cooling. It was a big step up from the basic Civic!
Some of my earliest memories are of this generation of Civic. I remember my parents driving this gigantic '78 Grand Marquis, then one day dad came home in this tiny little brand new '86 Civic Si hatchback with 101 miles on the odometer. I can still remember him taking me on rides in it down this winding back road that we call Devil's Backbone, and it was like being in an oversized go-kart. Such a fun little car. Wasn't too long after that the Honda plant opened in East Liberty and he started working there. He bought an Si for the next 4 generations after that, then in 2007 he bought a Chrysler minivan and he's owned those ever since. I was so mad at him too, because those Civics were like the only thing we ever bonded over and he just completely lost his enthusiasm for them and didn't really explain why.
What a great video. I’m not even done yet. Plus, all the music discovery because of you guys also, 1000% A+++. So much respect also to leaving enough music in, so I can grab it. All the way around guys. They don’t make cars like these, awesome documenting.
Talking about the “active driving experience” really explains why distracted driving is such a problem these days. We’ve made vehicles too safe and too comfortable so you don’t need to be engaged in the driving process anymore.
It certainly would reduce the cost of modern, overweight, mostly stupid cars. Especially when ABS and a good stereo is about all you need in a car after a good engine , transmission, and suspension. Today everything is "Bling" on cars. I can roll my window down all by myself. Amazing talent I have.
This will certainly go down as the most uncomfortable journey taken in your life, as well as one of the most economical journeys taken in your life. Glad to see you survived the journey.
Theres a whole untapped market in America for cheap minimalist commuter cars and this civic hits every nail on the head in terms of what a car should be at a minimal price point. Would love to see a minimalist truck or car from any of the automakers.
Reminds me of a 1995 Corolla I found for sale from a lady with 11,700KM on it back in 2020. Fuel injected thankfully, but a single outside mirror, no AC, no cruise, no nothing...although admittedly it did have a radio. I still have it and drive it every now and then when I need a reminder of simpler times. It's got 14,000km on it now but mostly lives in the garage as it apparently did with it's previous owner. Just not quite something I want to drive every day haha
I remember taking our beige 84 5spd wagon (with a/c and a radio) from San Diego to Joshua Tree, with passengers and gear for the weekend and getting 45mpg. Wish you could have shown all of the configurations those rear seats can do.
I love the body of that car -- the interior, the space, the visibility. I especially love the slick 5 speed. I don't love the feedback carb spaghetti, the vacuum spark advance, the single coil, the tendency of a carb to ice up in chilly weather, the aluminum head on an iron block, and mostly -- what might be 76 HP in California but is not even close to that at 11,000 ft.
Well said. Honda is generally well respected for their space efficiency but today's Civic is awful in that regard. The 2025 hatch must have 4 fewere inches of headroom in the back compared to this 1984.
Hey Tommy. Your shirt really matches the seat material. Love the video and the road trip. Reminds me of driving my 76 Chevy LUV to Colorado and back. 4 cylinder, 4 speed, and an AM radio. Driving in the upper elevations was slow going, but it gave me more time to enjoy the scenery.
I had this exact same car. Same paint color, interior and the whole shabang. I just thought about it two days ago and didn't mention it to anyone and now here we are, a video with the exact same car... 🤪
Cars were so awesome back then up to about mid 90s. No one would be excited for modern cars like that, nor would modern cars last that long and still work.
In 1984, I had a 1970 Buick GS 455 Stage 1 I drove everywhere; couldn’t afford one of these (Honda or anything late model) because I was a college student. In 2024, I have one of these Buicks now and wonder now how I was able to drive on the interstate (for hours) at 55-60 mph at 2500-2900 rpm (3.42 gears) with that 455 V8, but it was an adventure. Never ran the a/c, usually had all four windows down in the summer. Hard to believe I was able to run that car on regular leaded Amoco gasoline, but it didn’t spark knock and it was built, balanced, and blueprinted. It could spin the tires at 45 mph. TFL might want to have another “Model T adventure” with living/driving a big block muscle car for a while.
That is an excellent suggestion if they can find someone who would permit their classic to be taken on such a long trip. Speaking of 455 big block muscle cars from 1970, there was a beautiful 442 featured on Lou Costabile's channel yesterday. In 1984 I had just dropped out of college and was driving a 1975 Fury sedan with a 95 hp Slant 6. With its 25 gallon gas tank, it could cover a very long range very slowly. 😉
This is awesome to see it back to its permanent home! 39:17 is the exact same Honda Civic I had many years ago. The only difference it had no power steering and 5 speed manual.
Awesome video! My favorite of the year!
Awesome! Thank you!
Yea, I always like the road trips best too. Reminds me of the Top Gear Cheap car challenges, I could see James May driving this. Very interesting seeing the time capsule Honda. Thx
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"You ruined it by driving it that much" exactly as Honda (the owners) told you to do. You absolutely did not ruin it. You gave it an adventure before going back to the museum. Awesome job as always!
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Right? If driving it ruined it then why did it need so much work after sitting before it could make the trip.
The best way to ruin a car is to NOT drive it and let it sit. Especially if it's exposed to the elements.
It really shouldn't have been
Agreed, nothing is ruined, it is going back to a museum to probably sit for another 40 years, it simply got to experience life.
Not surprised in the least that the car made it with no issues. '80s Hondas are phenomenal cars.
They were truly bulletproof. I know I worked at a Honda store in the service shop back in the mid-80s to early 90s. They hardly ever had major issues, mostly only regular service needed! They were just that good!
until someone in a lifted f350 behind you at a red light forgets that you're in front of them when the light turns green.
@@jojothetasmaniansassmonkey8866 Thing is that big trucks have been around since forever, including semi tractors..That lifted F350 will get crushed just the same by that semi... see how that works? Living in fear is for chumps.
@@horseathalt7308 I don't know how some of these people even get out of bed every day. I assume the thought of getting on a motorcycle makes them poop themselves.
@@Kevin_Rhodes True. The unfortunate part is that the rest of us end up paying dearly for their cowardice.
No car can be ruined by being driven - it’s the only way to preserve one. Also, love the mint-green glow behind the gauges - classic.
LOVE this series ❤
TFL, This is one of the best videos you have ever done. You were respectful in your approach to the Civic wagon without being sentimental. I have one request to make to Honda: If it is too much to ask to bring back the Civic wagon, can we at least have as much front and rear headroom in today's massive Civic hatch as this tiny 1984 model?
Sorry, but you didn't buy the Fit that was the replacement for this.
@@jayhiggins5239 I am not sorry at all because I have been living the Pontiac Vibe dream since 2005. The Vibe offers plenty of headroom and practicality in a small package.🤯🤯
Did you know Honda makes a Fit/Jazz wagon called the Shuttle?
My 2013 1.5l Honda fit was an amazing car and had the simple 90’s engine and regular geared auto 5 speed transmission
Not the CVT the 1st and 3rd generation had.
My mom had an 84 hatchback when I was a kid. She would tell when the clutch was in and I learned shifting from the passenger seat. Great little car.
My moms was and 86 same lol I would sit on my dads lap and he would let me shift. He had a old 70s 3 speed hatch back honda I can still recall the smell of that thing hot foam no AC in the NC summers :D
I remember my neighbor had the original honda civic hatchback in orange.
@@stevelouie5928 Thats what color the little bits of paint were lol Mostly rust and this was in the 90s. Think my dad told me that sat at the port for some reason exposed to salt air.
@@EnlistedBombin later on my first car ended up being an 87 accord hatch with a carb engine. It was old and burned oil, no a/c or power steering, but it started every day and I even drove it as a courier driver for a year in Toronto (brutal traffic and actually really hot in summer). Even the crappy Honda’s were still able to get the job done every day.
Heh, i shifted gears for my mom all the time. 83 Tercel.
My 2007 Honda Fit Sport reminds me so much of the old Civics, last Honda that feels like the older ones. Mine has 262k miles and still runs and drives great.
As someone who had an 84 prelude, 91 Prelude 4ws and 94 Accord and now a FK8 Type R so great to see Honda cares about sharing their cars with the world.
Such a great vid on so many levels! As a Trucker, Ive been over 70 hundreds of times over a 20+ year career and this vid only rekindled my love for Colorado. You and Case were fantastic in this vid! The commentary was spot on! Both of you were able to communicate your passion, knowledge and excitement throughout the entirety of the vid and I watched all 44 minutes of it. Well done ,gentlemen!
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I had a brand new 84 CRX with the same engine in Denver, that engine probably worked better in the much lighter, more aerodynamic CRX. It would easily go over 100 MPH and get in the 40s MPGs. Because of the finicky carburetor I traded it for an injected new 87 Red Civic Si like the second car you have there. It had AC and a good stereo, pure sporty luxury . I let my friend drive it and he got a ticket for 112MPH outside Fairplay, CO. Neither car was slow. Both cars were a blast to drive. If you yank the hand brake at about 25 MPH 180 turns are a snap, if you want to try it. We were very young and as bullet proof as the Hondas, can't believe I've made to old age alive. Thanks for bringing back such fond memories!
Ah yes, the much enjoyed "Bootlegger" technique when you have someone following that you don't want following anymore when driving 25 MPH. Or just for the hell of it. :)
My 1990 CRX would do perfectly round spins if you cranked the ebrake at any speed. There were times I did 3 or 4 full revolutions steering it under control all the way. The perfectly square wheel base was great. Bought it brand new for $9865 adding air conditioning. My dad was a Honda salesman. The dealer made $110 before the a/c install labor. Not a big money maker for Norm Reeves Honda Superstore. Just brought home a 2025 Civic Sport Touring Hybrid Sedan 5 days ago. A phenomenal car. Had a 1985 Civic Hatchback in light metallic blue. I despised that no a/c 1300cc car. It was painfully slow but got the job done.
Tommy and Case are the backbone, the all stars of this channel. 👍
Simple, well-made cars are undefeated! Awesome opportunity y'all got; one of your best vid series to date.
I bought one of these new in 1984 except mine was a 4wd model with a six speed, i averaged over 32 mpg. i was awesome in the snow and rainy weather. i had no issues until a Honda dealership neglected to change the timing belt at a scheduled maintenance and it failed bending the valves. at around 120K miles. it was a great car!
I had a 1.5l accord 1985 manual the timing belt broke at 250k miles I just put a new belt on and drove it another 300k miles they had non interference engines
Honda’s engineering on everything they build is so Refined, their motorcycles, their 🚗 cars, and even their lawnmowers, my favorite will always be the Honda CT -70, great series 👍🏻👏🏻
I'm restoring an 85 Civic FWD wagon right now. Should be on the road in two weeks. Phoenix to LA. Thanks for the great preview of how this might go!
My '84 Civic Wagon was probably my all-time favorite car: simple, rugged, light, spacious and efficient. I bought it with 130k or so and put well over another 150k on it before someone smashed it while parked. It took me all over the Pacific Northwest, camping and exploring, and took my wife and I on a 3-month road trip around the States when she graduated. I've had many other vehicles over the years but am back in the closest I can get to that wagon - a 2009 Honda Fit.
You made it! I’m glad the trip went smoothly and hopefully Honda HQ will drain all of the fuel out of it before putting it back in the collection.
I enjoyed watching you young folk (except Andy, of course) finding the joys of an eighties road trip! Never quite sure if you would make it, but almost always did! A real adventure!!
I had been looking forward to this video for awhile. It did not disappoint. I knew the little Civic would make it! I thought it was very cool that you invited Andy to go along on the trip after all the work he put in. What a fun adventure for you guys and that great little car. I surprised myself by becoming a little emotional when Tommy and Andy drove the Civic on the grounds for the crowd to see it. Awesome video, keep up the great work guys.
24:56 I miss watching my analog odometers rolling over because it’s so satisfying. Digital odometers “rolling over” are anticlimactic and very easy to miss
Your description of the "active driving experience" is spot on. I have the same experience in my 1970 Beetle, being forced to slow down and really envelop yourself in the full participation of driving. Also, that little Civic is rad! Well done!👏
Nice road trip with that little beauty, and also fantastic work there from Andy. ~31 mpg isn't bad at all for a 40 year old vehicle. I can definitely see myself using this as an errands vehicle
Once broken in more it will often go up 10to20% based on new fleet vehicles ive been responsible for.
Had a 1986 Honda Civic when I was in UK; was a one family car & got it in 1998 with close to 95K on the odo. I put in a bit over 6K & sold it a few months later. I did a number of weekend trips & it was a no-nonsense, reliable car... Earlier this year I saw one a 1990 at a Costco parking lot & it was looking great (including the original paint). The owner was in all smiles when i stopped to talk to him about both of our experiences in owning similar Civics. Even my 2000 Accord lost a lot of Clear coat.
I had an ‘83 wagon. Different body style, but very similar engine. Also no ac or power steering. Only option mine had was a 3-speed auto. Despite that, I took it from Dallas to Kalamazoo and regularly averaged roughly 32-35mpg. At probably 70 mph. That was 30 years ago. A friend of mine totaled that car at a 4-way stop into a Jeep Cherokee. I miss it, I installed a fantastic stereo with Jensen 6x9’s and a pair of 8” woofers. Black Crowes sounded amazing!
I worked for Honda's ad agency in the 80's Rubin Postaer & Assoc and remember driving this wagon with all wheel drive up to the sierra's and how fantastic it was.
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*I worked at a Honda store in West Chester PA back when BOTH these models were sold, and they were great cars*
I drove them numerous times a day to do the PDC on them. Great memories and great co-workers at the dealership.
I had a 85 Honda Civic Sedan. The car was so solid and this trip brought back so much memories. I put on 132k miles on that car with many long trips all across America from the late 80’s.
Really loved this TFL classic!! We had a civic, not the SI and a Honda Jazz!! They where AMAZING!!
As someone who was at then event, it was cool seeing you guys and the Honda there.
I had an ‘89 Honda civic hatchback DX in the mid-late 90’s. Gold color. It was a great little car. Drove it from Oregon to Colorado. It was getting 50-something mph on the freeway driving through Wyoming. I thought the fuel gauge was broken for a bit. It sucked driving up the mountains around Boulder though 😂
This was magnificent and a bit scary with the trucks going by. Tommy’s speech was magnificent. I can’t be more proud of you two. You did it. 21:05 My favorite part heard the emotion. And nostalgia. ❤.
Sadly my first civic went to the junkyard. Two years earlier it came out of a junkyard, a week later it drove untested Mn to Austin Tx.
It was 87 blue awd 6spd with 250k. I still have the transmission and oem block, its ready to be bored over. When finished it will have d16z6 head and garret turbo running on Hondata ecu or micro squirt (for diagnostic support.) To keep awd will convert to 97 escape rear diff
really like the interior (ex is the pop up center vent, absolutly flat seating fold down, and finally the reclining rear seat) The suspension is so long legged and compliant, a sub compact that feels like a cadillac
Thank you for a shot of nostalgia
I drove my 1977 Datsun F-10 hatchback from Maryland to Arizona three times. No cc, only 80hp, power nothing. The only problem I ever had is the throttle stuck wide open one time, which isn’t too bad with only 80hp. I fixed it on the shoulder with a can of WD-40.
Awesome road trip video. 👍 I had the pleasure of driving a 1987 Honda Civic wagon. “Active” is a great description of the driving experience.
I remember this car from my childhood. I think it was the late '80s. I lived in the Netherlands at that time, 12 or 12 years old. My friends mum had one, Blue.
And do you know how many kids you can stash in there? She drove use to the swimming pool and scouts every week with at least 7 kids! Can you imaging? 2024, and have 7 kids in a vehicle like this? one on the front seat, 4 on the backseat and 2 or 3 in the booth. And THAT was the best spot; riding backwards, waving at other people and watching the clouds through those two little roof windows!! Great memories, great times....
You two guys are true professionals! And thanks to Andy for reviving the old girl!
I absolutely have loved the '84 Civic Saga! It's how I found about TFLclassics! I must've done a search for something on our '87 Civic Sedan and the UA-cam algorithms brought to their channel. The timing was impeccable for the '84 Wagon debut as I decided to take our '87 Sedan to that same Cars, Bikes, & Coffee at American Honda in Torrance, CA. Tommy, Kase, and Andy took an immediate liking to our little classic, "Clifford Blue" (named after my Wife's Great Uncle). It was a kick meeting them! Yeah, this is Brian with the blue sedan toward the end. I was humbled and honored by the TFL guys' enthusiastic interest in our automotive survivor. The icing on this cake was watching the '84 Wagon being reintroduced to the museum. I want to extend my sincere thanks to TFLclassics for allowing me and our car to be a part of this historic event!
It was great to meet you as well!
This is so cool. I had the predecessor to this car and this car. It was my experience with the late 70s mid 80s Hondas that made me a Honda buyer for life. For the time they were fast enough and this car was an upgrade over my previous car because this car had a five speed. Just sweet little engines. Overall, just great cars.
Thank you Honda and TFL for this wonderful trip down memory lane. I graduated hs in '83 and married in '86 and though I never owned this model of Honda, they were basically regarded as bulletproof and actually difficult to purchase in the Midwest. Isn't it sad that 40 years has passed and fuel mileage has barely improved at the sake of complexity and reliability.
I love and miss the green glow of an 80s speedometer
That simplicity has a lot of appeal. I worked at a car sales company for 2 years driving a 9 car hauler, and one of my favorite vehicles I hauled was a simple, manual everything, open everything Jeep Wrangler. It was short wheelbase, solid axels, and as simple as possible, and was an absolute pleasure to drive.
I have absolutely loved this series. A bunch of my friends had Hondas back in the 80s. All were manuals. Compared to other cars I drove back then, Hondas had very good 5-speeds. Anyway, this series is yet another reason why TFL has been and remains my top source when it comes to videos. I suppose the question now is: what's next?
Glad you enjoyed it!
@@TFLclassics I'm in Halifax, NS, so it's later in the morning. But for you guys I believe it's around 7:30am. My question: don't you guys take a day off?! It's Sunday morning! You should be enjoying your coffee and the highlights from last night's game (let's go, Dodgers!), not responding to comments.
Love that your shirt matches the upholstery fabric !
On the subject of having to actually drive the car - that is the problem with road trips today. No one is engaged in actually driving! Too much speed, too little attention.
I think you summarized things very kindly. After my early decades driving cars with 80 - 110 hp, I would say today we have too much horsepower controlled by too little IQ.
I had a 1974 or 76 Honda CVCC, no emissions required due to its system of the lean fuel mixtures, it was an extremely reliable car. It had the am radio 1 speaker upgrade. 4 speed transmission which used the same oil as the transmission 30 weight! 12” tires, manual choke! Just lacked AC in Texas! Not good but at 50 MPG couldn’t beat ownership cost.
In 1985 my wife and I bought that exact car, same color, same cloth interior, same everything except it was one year newer than your 84. It was our family car - the first new car we could afford. I seem to remember it cost about $8500 and ours had AC and radio and we paid extra for the optional passenger side mirror - so much more fancy! We drove it for 12 years as a family of four. The only negative thing I can say about it is the rear seatbelts did not have shoulder straps - just lap belts only.
I owned a 1978 Honda Accord hatchback with a 5-speed manual. It was the most fun to drive car I’ve ever had. FWIW, the Civic has grown a lot over the years to where the Civic of today is about the same size as that Accord.
My 1992 Honda civic has the 1.5 engine with 70 horsepower and no power steering. Manuel transmission and the original engine has 200k miles and doesn’t use any oil and has no leaks. Those old cars are great.
My 1982 Honda Accord Sedan 5 speed was my most reliable car ever and it drove so well! I had the dealer installed air conditioning, plus factory power steering, power brakes, cruise control and an excellent Pioneer Supertuner AM/FM/cassette stereo.
Enjoyable video, brings back lots of memories of driving cars back in the day. First car I drove was a 1968 Opel Kadet station wagon with a 4-speed manual. It got me where I needed to go, but not in any hurry. Patience was a virtue and passing took forever.
The 2 cooler things to me on this little car are, #1 the roof windows from the inside, and #2, the upholstery fabric!
On Derek Bieri's Vice Grip garage he just rescued a high mileage 86 CRX w/ the same motor. He literally just yanked all the vacuum and temp ignition and carburetor set-up off and plugged all fluid plugs and capped off the vacuum lines and put a new Weber carb on it and it was getting 35+ mpgs and ran 700 miles home. You dont even need it.
I was glued to that video yesterday! The whole 3 hour tour of a video that it was. I can’t even begin to say how hard that was to preserve the civic wagon. I went through the exact same problems he did. I really wanted to put a Weber on it. I had done a lot of those swaps back in the day. The museum part of this car made it a preservation. Most of my career was doing what Derek did. This was one of the more difficult make run repairs because I really had to preserve original parts. And like Derek said, it was difficult at best to get parts. I have a ton of content on my journey to get this down the road and back to Cali. Maybe I could talk Tommy and Kase into that part of the story to tell. Thanks for your comment!
Another great series from TFL Classics. Keep up the good work, guys!
Much appreciated!
37:05 ,one of my friends had the very same exact Civic Si back in 1986 & had it for over 25 years before shipping it overseas, it's also still on the road today
I remember my old man talking about his work at the time was requiring managers to have a 4-door sedan and they would pay for it. He chose a 1984 Honda Accord LX in that sky blue color they had back then. Automatic but it had power windows, locks and A/C. We were amazed at how nice it was and it was. Expensive too. $13k if memory serves.
I remember that car came out when I graduated from boarding school! What an awesome journey to take it from Colorado back to California! That 1986 Honda Civic Si is one I remember well when I was in college.
Awesome and Epic. Honda really had it going on in the 1980s and 1990s and they ploughed their own unique furrow as well, never tempted to just copy others.
3 Amigos in a Wee Civic Shuttle as it was called in Ireland and the UK. 🥰👍🇮🇪☘️
I passed my driving test in our family’s 1986 with Hondamatic semi-automatic transmission. It was gold in color with orange and brown plaid interior. I always loved the rear quarter panel windows that wrapped up onto the roof.
Really enjoyed this series! I knew it would make it home without issue. Well done boys! 🥰
Thanks so much! 😊
Before I could afford my first car, my best friend bought a white 1986 Honda Si and it was the coolest thing I'd ever been in up to that point. A few years later I bought a silver 1989 Honda DX hatchback, and paid $11,500 out the door. I had that car until 2019.
I had the inflation calculator opened already so I checked that 1989 price. It would equal $29,241 today.
My first Civic was a 1988 sedan. My friends and I took MANY road trips with it. Then I bought a 1997 Civic brand new (which I still have) 383,000 miles and many road trips later, she still runs like a champ! The only carbureted car I've owned was a 1986 Honda Accord that I bought as a 2nd "fun" car in 2001. I only went on one road trip with it, but I enjoyed it. (A friend needed a car and so I sold it to him, and sadly, it got totaled a week later (it wasn't his fault)
I remember as a young teen when these cars were new.
Same year, the CRX came out.
The Wagovan was my favorite though.
What a practical car, with good build quality.
Glad you guys took her on a maiden voyage.
Sure, id like her to stay a museum piece, but at the same time?
You guys got to experience a car that most people never have!
Awesome video!!
This is SUCH a nostalgic series for me. I had a charcoal grey one- ‘85, I think? I’ve been a leadfoot my entire life, and flogged it hard on the highway during many long vacation trips with camping gear and either 2 or 3 kids. No Colorado mountains, but it spent a lot of time on hilly Northern Ontario terrain. Never missed a beat in 150,000km. Only traded it because we had another child and needed a larger vehicle.
Loved your trip! FYI, back in the "day" , I owned a 79 Accord, an 81 Accord LX, an 84 CRX, a 86 Civic Si, a 88 Acura Intergra LS, and the last one was a 88 CRX Si.
This so reminds me of doing dealer trades back in the mid '80s. I worked for Julian Garcia Toyota City in Albuquerque New Mexico.
Geeat video! Brought back memories of my 85' CRX Si. I have owned over 30 cars in my lifetime and the CRX is the only one I regret not keeping . It had the least amount of power but the driving experience was unmatched. My daily is 2010 Civic coupe w/155K miles and not a single thing has broken on it! Honda's reputation is well deserved .
Fantastic video! My mom had an '87 Civic sedan identical to Brian's car. Hers had a black vinyl bra, and she paid $4000 for it. She bought it from a family friend. She gave it to me when I got my driver's license. I truly hope that you guys do more videos like this. 👏
WOW, that's my Civic Si exactly! What a super car, & all the great memories I have from it.! I should have restored mine & kept it!
Great video and project and happy to see Andy get props too.
Handling in crosswinds was greatly improved after I swapped the factory Bridgestone tires on mine for a set of Michelins.
New larger rims a must on any 80's cars. Period. It should have been illegal for some of the cars to have such small tires.
I took a road trip from southern Michigan to Kansas City with a friend and her similarly-de-contented CRX. Aside from hearing loss and being par broiled in mid-summer midwestern weather, the far-from factory fresh CRX hummed right along! Heavy truck traffic on the Interstate was only moderately terrifying.
Here in New Zealand, these were very popular. They were called the Honda Shuttle.
The plaid shirt matching the plaid interior 😂
We have been Honda owners since 1990. Currently driving a 2008 CRV EXL Navi for our business. Purchased brand new and still an unbelievable vehicle after almost 18 years!
I had just turned 11 at this point in 1984, so not old enough to drive yet but I have many memories of cars from that time. My mother was driving a Thunderbird from the early 80s. I remember it being striking how much different the little "foreign" cars like this civic were from the big American cars I was used to seeing.
Great video guys! I can always count on TFL crew to put out awesome videos!
Yes, small cars were small back then. For the record, that early 80s Thunderbird would almost fit in the trunk of an early 70s T-Bird. By 2024 things have all evened out. Many "American" cars are now made in Mexico, Korea or PRC while the new Audi RS6 super wagon weighs as much a a Ford Country Squire from 1975.
I owned a similar ‘83 Tercel 2 door hatchback. 3 guys in the car it struggled on mountain roads. Great cars! Great trip!
Awesome stuff, guys - keep it up! If you ask me, a stock, classic car that gets driven is far more impressive that one that sits inside a building its entire life. Ignore anyone who says it's ruined - that's nonsense.
Exactly. It's a tool- meant to be used.
One trip in my 86 Honda Civic Ci I went into the I 70 tunnel in clear blue skies & came out the other side in a huge blizzard! The only thing that was a bit scary was the slush coming off the trucks! As I mentioned before the Si handled everything well had plenty of pep, with good radio, cassette deck, heating, cooling. It was a big step up from the basic Civic!
Awsome to see Andy on TFL again.
I had an 84 hatchback that ran excellent and had no problem going up hill or doing 80+ on the freeway!
Some of my earliest memories are of this generation of Civic. I remember my parents driving this gigantic '78 Grand Marquis, then one day dad came home in this tiny little brand new '86 Civic Si hatchback with 101 miles on the odometer. I can still remember him taking me on rides in it down this winding back road that we call Devil's Backbone, and it was like being in an oversized go-kart. Such a fun little car. Wasn't too long after that the Honda plant opened in East Liberty and he started working there. He bought an Si for the next 4 generations after that, then in 2007 he bought a Chrysler minivan and he's owned those ever since. I was so mad at him too, because those Civics were like the only thing we ever bonded over and he just completely lost his enthusiasm for them and didn't really explain why.
What a great video. I’m not even done yet. Plus, all the music discovery because of you guys also, 1000% A+++.
So much respect also to leaving enough music in, so I can grab it.
All the way around guys. They don’t make cars like these, awesome documenting.
Talking about the “active driving experience” really explains why distracted driving is such a problem these days. We’ve made vehicles too safe and too comfortable so you don’t need to be engaged in the driving process anymore.
It certainly would reduce the cost of modern, overweight, mostly stupid cars. Especially when ABS and a good stereo is about all you need in a car after a good engine , transmission, and suspension. Today everything is "Bling" on cars. I can roll my window down all by myself. Amazing talent I have.
This will certainly go down as the most uncomfortable journey taken in your life, as well as one of the most economical journeys taken in your life. Glad to see you survived the journey.
I’ll just remember this video every time I feel my current Civic could use more power. 76 HP for the time? Wow!
I love the road trip videos. They really do elevate the video from content to a story.
Theres a whole untapped market in America for cheap minimalist commuter cars and this civic hits every nail on the head in terms of what a car should be at a minimal price point. Would love to see a minimalist truck or car from any of the automakers.
That would be nice!
Reminds me of a 1995 Corolla I found for sale from a lady with 11,700KM on it back in 2020. Fuel injected thankfully, but a single outside mirror, no AC, no cruise, no nothing...although admittedly it did have a radio. I still have it and drive it every now and then when I need a reminder of simpler times. It's got 14,000km on it now but mostly lives in the garage as it apparently did with it's previous owner. Just not quite something I want to drive every day haha
I remember taking our beige 84 5spd wagon (with a/c and a radio) from San Diego to Joshua Tree, with passengers and gear for the weekend and getting 45mpg. Wish you could have shown all of the configurations those rear seats can do.
Nice video, guys. Good seeing the old gal driven as she should be. Nice scenery on the trip, too.
Love it. Dang. I thought my '11 5MT Yaris with roll down windows was a dinosaur, but this is another level. Great video.
Enjoyed this episode, good job guys in getting it back on the road! 👍
Glad you enjoyed it
My first Honda was a 1984 Civic Wagon in the same color! Still driving a Honda today, but now it's a 2000 Insight with 67 HP!
This was such a fun watch, your chemistry together and your presentings style are perfect 👏
This is so cool. I wish to have a job working with cars like this.)
I love the body of that car -- the interior, the space, the visibility. I especially love the slick 5 speed.
I don't love the feedback carb spaghetti, the vacuum spark advance, the single coil, the tendency of a carb to ice up in chilly weather, the aluminum head on an iron block, and mostly -- what might be 76 HP in California but is not even close to that at 11,000 ft.
Well said. Honda is generally well respected for their space efficiency but today's Civic is awful in that regard. The 2025 hatch must have 4 fewere inches of headroom in the back compared to this 1984.
Hey Tommy. Your shirt really matches the seat material.
Love the video and the road trip. Reminds me of driving my 76 Chevy LUV to Colorado and back. 4 cylinder, 4 speed, and an AM radio. Driving in the upper elevations was slow going, but it gave me more time to enjoy the scenery.
I had this exact same car. Same paint color, interior and the whole shabang. I just thought about it two days ago and didn't mention it to anyone and now here we are, a video with the exact same car... 🤪
Cars were so awesome back then up to about mid 90s. No one would be excited for modern cars like that, nor would modern cars last that long and still work.
In 1984, I had a 1970 Buick GS 455 Stage 1 I drove everywhere; couldn’t afford one of these (Honda or anything late model) because I was a college student. In 2024, I have one of these Buicks now and wonder now how I was able to drive on the interstate (for hours) at 55-60 mph at 2500-2900 rpm (3.42 gears) with that 455 V8, but it was an adventure. Never ran the a/c, usually had all four windows down in the summer. Hard to believe I was able to run that car on regular leaded Amoco gasoline, but it didn’t spark knock and it was built, balanced, and blueprinted. It could spin the tires at 45 mph. TFL might want to have another “Model T adventure” with living/driving a big block muscle car for a while.
That is an excellent suggestion if they can find someone who would permit their classic to be taken on such a long trip. Speaking of 455 big block muscle cars from 1970, there was a beautiful 442 featured on Lou Costabile's channel yesterday. In 1984 I had just dropped out of college and was driving a 1975 Fury sedan with a 95 hp Slant 6. With its 25 gallon gas tank, it could cover a very long range very slowly. 😉
This is awesome to see it back to its permanent home! 39:17 is the exact same Honda Civic I had many years ago. The only difference it had no power steering and 5 speed manual.