The Most EXPENSIVE Laptop I've Reviewed! // HP ZBook Fury G8
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- Опубліковано 5 жов 2024
- More expensive then a fully decked MacBook Pro 16 the HP ZBook Fury G8 17" laptop is a monster! But is it worth it? Watch for the full review!
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I decided to use no audio for most of the video. Do you guys prefer this? Let me know! Also, if you missed it I compared the MacBook Pro M1 Max/Pro to a Fully spec'd 12th Gen Intel Desktop which you can find here - ua-cam.com/video/p4wLR2RzCaY/v-deo.html
didnt even notice to be honest
I like a little background music. But it’s fine either way
Have you reviewed the Dell G15 2021
A quiet one wouldnt hurt but I never really noticed and I still love how you review these
yes i prefer this
Many on here just don't seem to understand these types of workstation laptops are not geared for the average consumer. They are meant to be used for CAD or scientific programs. All the workstation configurations are certified to use different CAD programs. CAD programs can easily exceed the cost of these machines.
You are also paying for 1) system stability and 2) business class support. You will talk with a live person based in the US. They'll try to diagnose issues over phone first, but if it can't be fixed they'll have next business day visit. If the part is no longer available they'll upgrade the entire workstation.
So think, you are paying $10-15k for a single license CAD program, you are paying a user $100-130k a year, $6500 workstation laptop that will be used for 3-5 years is nothing for a company. These are tools and not show pieces.
Every fancy calculator is a tool, laymen just can't fathom that and take everything for granted
Someone who have experienced what disaster a flipped bit can cause, I'll take that ECC RAM anyday
@@Sandeepan You're right, but unfortunately a lot of people don't know that.
Not everyone needs 5 nvme capable laptops bc they do film fx work, capability to test production level dbs locally, work on vr games while ingesting motion or scene captures from broadcast quality cams. Yannow, everyday stuff like that.
YES. This. The certification process is expensive and exhaustive for HP. Hence the price and lack of variety of models.
HP Z-Book have always been super expensive, even more than Lenovo and Dell comparable offerings. These are for a specific category of pros whose company will pay for this and probably in bulk at a discounted price. And these workstation laptops usually come with at least 3 years of on-site next business day warranty, something you do not get with usual consumer or gaming laptops: it can save your ass if each day without a working laptop is making you lose lots of money. These workstation laptops are often designed conservatively regarding performance, to limit noise and heat (it can be tweaked). But they are also designed (and tested) to support heavy processing for hours or even days.
Yeah this a strange video. There is maybe 3 total consumers out there that would ever ever consider this. This is an enterprise product and sales channels are not gonna be focused on UA-cam lmao.
@@Evan_Rodgers it's still fun to watch, the average consumer would never even see it
Lenovo, Dell and Hp have the same prices in the largest expansion stage and also have almost the same equipment. These are priced at €10,000.00 without VAT
@@christianfohry5449 I agree. These are not consumer products. They are built to very expensive software specs. See my comment.
My company provides this laptop, the security in this thing is insane. Intel Xeon and Nvidia Quadro holds quite good in most of the engineering apps we use.
This is the best corporate laptop I have used thus far compared to Mac, IBM ThinkPad etc.
Now I am curious... Would love to know what you design ☺️
Yeahhh absolutely insane!! I have this laptop too provided by my company...wait do you work for Amazon? :P
@@mohitsharma8451 I had 2 Zbooks in my last job-One was a Xeon and one was an I7 both were awesome but both ran extremely hot.
Amazing machines.
I also began to work with a company. Which purchased this laptop for me. I've opened the latch out of curiosity, I hope I won't get trouble on Monday 😂
Do you work for WK?
You keep identifying this machine as a "laptop". This suggest it is a consumer-type notebook. And while it has a form factor of a laptop, it is NOT A CONSUMER-TYPE product. It is a WORKSTATION laid-out and packaged in laptop form factor. Next time, refer to these type of machines as portable or mobile workstations. This clearifies the targetted audience and does justice to the product and explains the higher price point.
"tHiS iS nOt WoRtH $6500" yeah which is why such laptops are never advertised for consumers. Most of you wouldn't even have heard about this from any marketing material for the company and that's for a reason.
It's worth more but you are so ignorant it's not worth talking about. This review was mediocre. I have this unit and I paid $13,000+ but this guy knows little about HP and their customer lifecycle support.
It's Time to All Brands Start To Give FHD Webcam in Laptop
4K. FHD will be accepted.. many people have over 25mbps speed an option would be nice
Then you'll be getting bigger bezels and thicker screens
@@tvthecat That doesn't seem to be a thing on phones though so...
@@edderwright9042 then go watch Linus video on the subject so you can understand the situation.
I’d rather have high quality 720p over potato quality 1080p…
Matthew: 6500$
me: definitely not worth it I don't even care if it can fly
Same! Also, why do corporate machines have to look so, well, ugly? A nicely spec'd MP M1 Pro/Max or XPS pour moi svp!
Actually if it did fly I'd say that if I couldn't afford it but if I could hell yea bois flying laptop
@@JimKanaris yeah, but a MacBook and XPS would break under an hour in an outdoor condition, for example in a construction site
@@ddc171 Hence my "pour moi". I've never used laptops in those conditions nor will I ever need to. So ya, maybe if you need it for construction zones.
I am still not exactly sure why it costs that much. From what I saw in this video, the performance of this machine is terrible for the cost even in the workflow that it is meant for. The only difference is that it has good support and good QA.
I guess the kind of support they receive is specific to the software that this laptop is meant for. So you can ask them really specific things about those software and get quick, reliable answers.
HP ZBook, Lenovo ThinkPad P series, Dell Precision... It's the same laptop machine rebranded. Made by the same Chinese guy I suppose. If you look closely, only the chassis differs. The hinges are the same, the speakers and the fingerprint sensor are in the same place, the touchpad is the same size, etc. Specs and prices are more or less the same. Globalization...
I've been using a zbook for about 3 years provided for me by my company, and one quick thing I want to point is that I LOVE those physical mouse buttons. Especially as someone who use the middle button a lot, and also there are 2 sets! If I'm not connected to my external monitor and want to chill and code on my bed, that track pad is really really good!
So yeah, some people actually love that track pad. Function over form.
They are awesome for coding but damn they do get hot.
Mine broke down after 8 month‘s. 😅
@@ianedmonds9191 bacause its to much for just coding 😂 you dont even need Grafic-Card to code, CPU and Memory is all you need most of the heat is comming from the graphic card that you wouldnt need. Maybe you got the wrong workingstation for just coding, coding laptops are very simple ;)
@@MondoLT Depends what you're coding. I've written plug ins for Unigraphics in the past and it needs a certified gfx card.
Today I started Aerospace Engineering, and when my teacher saw my 2016 MacBook Air he said that I was gonna suffer quite a lot, since we are gonna use Solidworks. I'm gonna buy this laptop and see if it works well for those purposes!
If you downtime is worth more than this 6k device and it fits you needs - go for it.
Expensive workstations are a combination of performance, reliability and most importantly - SUPPORT, if things go bad.
Yes, it won't perform as good as any gaming laptop, mainly because the parts are clocked LOWER because they're tuned for reliability.
The Quadro cards are clocked lower than their Geforce RTX counterparts (counterparts as in the same core), Xeons are usually clocked slightly lower than their I7\I9 counterparts (no core model here, but top spec Xeon is usually slower than top spec I9), memory is always in spec, so no overclocking for you buddy, even if the that thing doesn't thermal throttle - it's great, but you aren't going to make use of that thermal gap, if you wanted overclocking you should have went with whatever gaming laptops they have.
And the most crucial thing besides aiming towards reliability is support - these things usually come with GREAT suppor. They are getting updates constantly - even when they're out of warranty!
My Precision 7510 is 5 years old now and it's still getting firmware updates, even when it's 1-2 years after it's warranty expired.
When I had issues with it, a technician came to my house and replaced the motherboard - the next day I called Dell. And this is where Dell gets their money from, from businesses, because usually their support is dog shit.
It's not just the product, it's the the whole package.
Oh, and you don't have to spec it so high, I got my Precision from an outlet, it had top specs (best Quadro they could offer, 32GB of ram, a Xeon processor), and that thing was $2k with a 4 year onsite warranty.
I still use it to this day, it's a great laptop to program on.
I'd rather put $3k on a business\workstation laptop than $2k on their rgb infested lineup (like Alienware) so I don't find myself waiting for a foreign call center to assist me with their 'Cinebench beast'.., but at $6k it's quite of a niche product.
I was just issued one of these for a job in data analytics but wasn't familiar with the Z book product line. Now I get it. Thanks for this video.
You should do a video about laptop best for game development. Ones that are the best fit to handle things like Unreal engine, unity etc
My company dropped me one of these babies for remote work.
This is definitely a Security focused laptop that isn't meant for the average consumer. Neat to see, but it is a rather niche machine
The only people buying this are IT equipment purchasers at HP-supplied companies with 500+ employees.
@@Evan_Rodgers confirmed, I’m IT and just sourced one of these bad boys for an engineer and it’s an insane machine.
I didn’t know anything was priced over $5000 for windows laptops 😂
Most laptops priced over $5k are. Workstation laptops like these and rugged work laptops are exclusively non mac
I just ordered mine today as an upgrade to my zbook 15 g5. My use case involves enterprise software (Particularly Oracle FMW based VMs ranging from ADF, SOA Suite, BPM and Forms as customer environment replicas) and platform development (Enterprise Application Containerization, Kubernetes Ingress, Daemon Sets and Operators development on a minimal cluster with monitoring setup that involves NoSQL or time-series databases along with Stateful sets that require a pseudo-storage server ). Speaking for the 15" model (Current one that I am replacing had 8750h - 80 GB memory and 3 tb nvme + 4tb AHCI SSD storage), outside of the mobile workstations of this caliber where only zbook has the parts access with great modularity there is no other notebook option that has 4 memory slots. Now, I had to go for the A3000 instead of the A2000 due to the vapor chamber being available with the prior and higher models as the only issue I had with my previous one was getting BSODs due to overheating when driving a 4k and an fhd monitor while the machine had 70% CPU load which I forced me to plug-out the monitors to not have gpu pumping additional heat.
I feel every laptop should have the ability to swap batteries like that. I had a lenovo y410p back in 2014 and it was amazing, could swap the battery out with just a slide of a button and you could even upgrade the gpu or replace the dvd with another one to work in SLI mode. Absolute madness.
I'm a blockchain developer and I'm a zbook user since my student life when I was studying software engineering and now my main laptop is also a zbook with arch linux its really amazing but now I feel that hp should include amd processors in zbook as zbook contain more heat eliminating cobablities
There are extra two slots for SSD under the keyboard.
We own a zbook workstation g5 15v and it's awesome
I use this at work for Android development and it's a good machine (i7 11th gen, 32gb ram) but let me tell you, this sounds like it's about to take off all day long. I pretty much have an emulator running constantly and the top part of the laptop is always very hot. And the battery is trash, but it's always plugged in anyway.
Actually, rtx 3060-3080 mobile also work amazingly in engineering applications. It just certain software developers don't list geforce card on their system (which is intended, so people will buy quadro card that include full support for engineering application).
Company would not buy "gaming laptops" even they for same price as "CAD" give more power and performance. Its just word play and tagging.
Holy shit. I was so ready to just forget about the idea of ever owning this under the assumption it would not have a trackpoint. I was wrong. This is a top tier laptop.
all it needs is physical volume buttons to the left of that (presumably mostly cosmetic) speaker grille and status led indicators.
Not sure how that keyboard is, but with a superior layout and key shape/travel more akin to older business laptops (latitude e6410 for example) it would be unstoppable
Just look at that blender test!!!
Wow just Wow
I was wondering about why you might have to pay for a wifi and bluetooth card on a $6,000 machine but then im guessing that some people who buy this laptop may never need or want to connect it to the internet or transmit any signals hence the option to remove it from the system
Enterprise solution may demand an airgapped computer and you can only meet regulations with a removable card.
I mean why would someone use wifi over ethernet for serious professional work when ethernet is an option?
If someone needs wifi/bluetooth, it wouldnt be difficult or expensive to add it
I guess having no wireless connection means theres no way someone can get into wireless communication and talk to laptop
You’re discussion of the 4 SSDs is slightly off. Those slots u refer to are for the WFi card and WWan cellular card. One SSD is under the keyboard. The other one is next to the battery, and the last two actually go where that large hard drive bay is.
You didn't mention the other SSD slot and you also didn't mention the other 2 SODIMM slots (there are 4 slots in total)
Great port selection. But since HP insist that their customers watch movies 24/7 and hence need a 16:9 screen, they finally lost me to the Lenovo X1 Yoga. Always liked and bought their high-end EliteBooks x360, but I need a productivity machine, not a Netflix machine, sorry. No 16:10, no buy. End of.
Good news! The next gen of ZBooks will be 16:10.
Pretty nice laptop, I started laughing when compared to Macbook Pro (price wise), pretty bad review considering the target audience for this kind of laptop since it's not a consumer product and more than once I heard "content creators" which was pretty funny. There are far more expensive laptops for content creators, the 10k Asus ProArt laptop comes to mind. Anyway, nice effort, decent laptop with a reasonable price, considering all the security/ugradability/service provided and so on. I recently bought a ThinkPad T15g Gen 2 which is best suited for my needs and I don't even use the touchpad, most users preffer the thumbstick (don't really know what it's called), once you become used to it.
The Z in the middle is kind of sassy
and its using magnesium alloy chassis
That's MM, M̶a̶r̶s̶h̶a̶l̶ ̶M̶a̶t̶h̶e̶r̶s̶ Matthew Moniz
Haha
6500 $ computer
×2 RTX 3090
RAM : 128GB
Hard : 2TB SSD + 2TB HDD
Intel i9
and complement
It will cost 6500 $
I feel like you missed the whole point of this laptop if you are for real trying to compare it with a desktop
@@ironbolt2678
It is not wise to spend such amount on a laptop, unless the user urgently needs it because of the unstable work in a specific place ! .
@@فنانالفوتوشوب As said in the video, the laptop is meant to be used in a specific work scenario where a really powerful yet rugged machine is beneficial. It is not for a regular consumer like me and you. And its completely okay. Since its not for everybody, it has a high pricetag, because its production is costly.
I think big company like amazon dont see this as expensive they can buy thousand of this... A student or normal people see this expensive
Not my use case. Liking and commenting to keep that engagement high. Ever considered doing any Linux native laptops? Not sure how familiar you are with the OS, or manufacturers like System76, etc.
There is a KDE Plasma laptop
I dont remember its name
i know this video is a litte older. We are getting our new laptops at work, they are the Fury G9. And you know what we do? Excel! lol we do word docs and excel files and some SAP. Absolutely no need for this much horsepower but what the heck right? If they want to buy these for us ill take it.
Was going to get this laptop for video editing. Such as shame it isn’t great for it
Almost 4 minutes in and I still don't know how much ram or what processor is inside.
So, unlike with HP Envy they didn’t even bother to put in Bang & Olufsen Audio system - what a shame, for $6,500 large.
Wait. That laptop was still running without the battery.
Mentioning some of those security features in more detail would've been nice
My company has procured this laptop. I wish they saw this video before procuring
Why didn't you get the Fury G9 ?
HP laptop is known for over heating, like years ago. Has that been resolved? Are HP laptops (HP ZBook Fury G8), over 5 years old, been overheating?
$6500 laptop and they couldn't tune the hinge to open with one hand geez
The selling point is that it does it all quietly...
Sorry but this laptop has 4 ram slots two are below keyboard when you open will surprise that their is a space for full size m2 ssd to which also nvme
Have ZBOOK G6 for 2 years and it was really great machine.But 2xtimes replacement of motherboard due issue with overheating and then with not charging.Luckily it was under guarante,as motherboard replace was higher price than new laptop.Now switched to Lenovo Legion 5 Pro and max satisfied
If you can compile Unreal Engine from the source (to check compile time) and Build Light of some project in unreal engine (to check light build time), will really appreciate that.
Yes, my company provides these laptops for all engineers within corporates. Solid feeling and smooth when using.
If astronauts are using it then it undoubtedly has the instant home-away-from-home button which transforms the laptop into a house if the owner or user is stuck on a far distant planet with no cup of tea handy. That must be why it costs a fair bit though pitifully cheap compared to a Compaq some years back with a 486 in it.
I hope you can review the soon to be released Zbook Fury G9 and Studio G9
Wow!
Can you do a review for Asus Vivobook pro 14X?
I want this too!
As "that" guy who uses this stuff every day. It would be so fun to have someone like me to comment on a lot of stuff people like as "useless to me"! Good review though!
Cheers!
My only wish for these laptop is to finally get a LARGER then 17 inch screen! Keep the same old size and slim down the bezel. Give us a 18-19 inch screen in the same body!
Other then that I am glad they kept the touchpad buttons. Always keep the buttons, especially if you are somewhere that's moving or unstable, you can be 100% certain your click is where you want.
I used the Zbook 17 G1 for almost 6 years. It was the best laptop I ever owned. I eventually upgraded it from K3100m to k5100m. Its got 32GB ram, 2TB HDD, 1TB SSD and 500GB SSD. Its currently still working like a champ hosting a Valheim server using about 0.1% of its power.
If i may ask, what conditions would prompt someone to use a laptop such as this one? Especially for the price point.
@@kevinsmithgaming I think the top end specs are overkill bit with a A3000 CPU it can be has for around 3k. Conditions being having everything top of the line / easily replaceable with HP warranty and also cost savings of you keep it for 5 or so years. It costs more at first but the value pays for itself over time.
Don't eurocom And others like them offer 21.5" models?
@@cenkaetaya professional computers are never overkill
18-19 inch screen in 17 inch body will mean smaller bezels
Smaller bezels = more prone to accidental damage = bad
You can also get a small monitor if you want a larger screen
I ordered one custom build with i9 and 64gb ram etc, was almost 4000 pounds
I don’t get it .. You’re reviewing a laptop power house and you don’t test it’s capabilities and limits and so on?
lol
Whoaaa I read all the comments, the thing is people aren't getting it (including me tbh) though 6500 is a lot of cash, it is for business/corporate work, like microsoft is planning to do with the surface duo 2 (heard in the mkbhd podcast dunno how legit it is) the corporate sector for tech is just weird tbh
It's only weird because you don't fit in that crowd
They might be calling you the same
The MacBook are really interesting now, That's weird!
I don't get it. Why will anyone not want a wifi card? Wifi means internet connection, right? Why will anyone remove it and replace it with ssd?
The Asus Proart One is 10k with the Quadro RTX 6000. The only laptop Nvidia made with a GPU derivative of the 80TI, in theis case the 2080TI. The RTX 6000M have a wopping 24GB of GDDR6 ram
Interesting.
Have you had a chance to review newer HP ZBook Fury 16 G9 ?
i been using it for a while. It cannot provide a good gaming environment, which means it will become hot and cpu down to 0.8ghz when you play videogames for about 20min. I tried a lot of ways but nothing work.
September 2022 the price is 2300$
I have this laptop...and I HATE IT. All my other laptops and MacBooks Pro uses USB-C charger to charge. Not this Z book. It needs 120 w to charge on USB-C. A catastrophe for me. It should be my go to laptop, but I don't use it. I received it from my work, but use my old laptop instead.
Hello!
Thank you for the excellent review! What about the noise? Does the device get loud under load? Do the fans run all the time? I have a Z-Book Firefly and it is very noisy under load, so I am considering buying a Z-Book Fury.
Thank you very much for a short feedback.
I just got the Fury 17 G8. Fans will occasionally speed up like a twin prop plane, but still not annoying. I do audio and video with this beast and I am very happy!
1:06 - Rhyme intentional? Nice one!
For Non-Americans, 7 pounds is 3.2 kg
My job just upgraded me to this laptop
Something something I will not spend that amount in a decade on laptops
It's all down to the certifications for really really high end CAD programs. Stuff like Siemens Unigraphics and the like.
The software costs to run that program in an organisation are massive compared to the cost of hardware certified to run that software.
This is the PLM (Product Lifecycle Management) software used by the Aero industry and Automotive and Subsea Oil extraction equipment.
Extremely high cost product elite engineering companies.
The software is certified to run correctly on certain hardware and the cost of certification is very high so any addition of hardware has to undergo the same exhaustive testing that the drivers for the new piece of hardware is not going to destabilise the system.
Laptops even workstation laptops are a total outlier for these companies. 99% of design engineers will be using Dual or quad Xeon Workstations with the top end Quadro GFX and silly amounts of ram and storage driving massive monitors.
When I left the oil services company I worked for the total cost of a workstation for one of these guys was well over £12,000 not including software costs.
It sounds a lot but these workstations are truly at 100% performance all day everyday and sometime 24/7 if the contract is time critical.
They are crazy over-engineered workstations.
I have nothing but respect for HP's workstation division having worked on them since they were PA-Risc machines back in the 2000s.
Buying a workstation laptop and not using it for a certified software product is a waste of money. That's what you are paying for.
Luv and Peace.
OK To be fair he got to it eventually.
He did put it out there that this is not a UA-cam Creator laptop (though it would be very good at that.) Bottom line is it's very specific laptop for a very limited workspace.
Expensive but in these sorts of environments you can't tolerate any failures.
Luv and Peace.
So the price is for the security and durability features........ I get it now, why I saw Jeff Bezos using an HP laptop in one of his picture....
These models do come in & fly off.
Why do i feel like the composition is skewed
How many kidneys?
FINALLY!
A laptop that won't catch my STDs...
Security features? ...for 6 Grand you don't need them. You've already been robbed.
The z in the middle is sassy
They’re using a magnesium chassis
I hate that power button
I am looking at the G8 i9 RTX A3000, and wondering if all the workstation laptops from HP with RTX graphics is Quadro cards ?
I actually have an i9 version of Zbook Studio G8 with RTX A300. But I sent it to HP because of touchpad issues like I couldn't drag windows around most of the time and couldn't easily scroll down. When it's working its fanatics and I love it.
Yes, you can get workstation laptops from HP with RTX cards but there are only in custom build orders so shipping them takes a very long time like a couple of months plus. which in my option is not worth the wait. by the time you would get HP Zbook G8 with Geforce RTX card. Intel 12 gen and new Nvidia GPU and new AMD CPU and GPU are going to be in laptops already. So if you are only looking for RTX cards in HP Zbook g8 it's not worth the wait at all.
ayo matt , after long time
Thanks
How to buy this in India??? 🇮🇳
It's like $2000 off rn...
i can buy this after 10 years of labour
Is it good for gaming? More like i want to use a PC alternative for game development in unreal. Im wondering if its good enough for it?
Enjoyed your video! What if you added an NVIDIARTXA4000 8GB Graphics card, would this laptop be suitable for 4k video editing? Thanks in advance
Hello everyone.
I wanted to purchase a new laptop for some time now and currently stuck between 3 model. I Would really appreciate if anyone colud help me to pick one:
1.Hp ZBook Fury G8 (Xeon W-11955M,Rtx A5000, Full HD Display)
2.Hp Zbook Power G9 (i7 12700h, RTX A2000, 4K Display)
3.Hp omen 16 2023(i9 13900HX,RTX 4060)
-I wolud be mostly using it for machine learning and LS-Dyna,Abaqus, etc...
Hello. What did you buy?
Get the base MacBook Air M1 and call it a day.
HI One question I have the laptop but I have the feeling the screen brightness does not reach the expected quality also the tones are quite yellowish. I have tried everything but seems something with the hardware have you experienced something similar?
Port placement on this machine is quite inconvenient. All the display ports & Power input should be on the right side or at the back of the laptop like Lenovo. These cables are thick and have higher bending radius in the beginning. Assuming almost all of the people use mouse with their right hand, this causes a slight interruption on the right side. I would prefer all the cable mess on the left/back side and two USB A ports on the right side, where I can plug my wireless dongles. One USB port on left side would be good too for the wired headphones. In a typical office scenario, this would be useful.
But can it run crysis?
Good G8~
HP going crazy with pricing here..
So how much is it for the 120hz option tho 🤔
Hi
I have Zbook Fury G7, I9, and in windows i see higher CPU core temp. All cores oscilqtes 70 - 100 degree.
Understand that G8 it' s a little better regarding CPU temp. G8 stay witout any app started, in 80 degree for cores ?
Let's see gaming experience
i Have zbook 15 g3 so thats way newer than mine
Thansk
I do like these monsters (I have a precision 7740), but when (if?) ARM revolution comes to windows they will die out.
I work as a computer vision engineer just to say that I need the likes of that quadro card but frankly, that thing is not even worth it. I can't even see a use case for it aside from wasting money, using the cloud is a lot cheaper and building your own desktop will be cheaper/more powerful so it is stuck in this weird place between useless and expensive. I wouldn't buy it or recommend it to anyone.
I got the legion 5 Pro with Same specs as yours but you got 25 minutes on Mozilla Firefox compile test whereas I am getting 18 minutes. So is mine cherry picked out something
i called him out on the same thing, I feel he honestly tweaks results just to favor intel processors.