Join the Army National Guard in 1975. 11B. Had an M16a1 for the next 25 years. Nose to Charging handle works every time With iron sights. Consistent cheek weld, and eye relief. every time!
Fact: the distance of eye to the rear sight aperture will change as the shooter’s position gets higher or lower if the shooter has a muscularly relaxed stock weld, resting the entire weight of the head on the stock. And it is from this condition that sight alignment can be best anchored, not from adjustment of the body to get the nose onto the charging handle. My opinion is based on my own success with shooting leading me to earn the US Distinguished Rifleman Badge and as a CMP-USAMU Military Rifle Instructor. So forget the nose to charging handle litany and accept the size of the aperture to front sight relationship which yields the most comfort, since such a relationship supports better accuracy no matter the apparent diameter of the sight picture.
My Squirrel tail collection supersedes your sharpshooter ribbon and I'll raise you all street lights in town were shot out on May 27th 1982.......@@KommonCents_
You’re representing a different subject. While yes you make a similar point - regarding head alignment akin to “eye box” for a scope, Henry was illustrating a consistent placement front to back; a reference point on the rifle to obtain the same head placement, every time. Other instructors have beginners tape an ear plug on the stock as a reference point. Neither of you are wrong; rather, you discuss separate components of an essential marksmanship skill. Consistency.
Nose to charging handle is correct!...that is exactly how the Army taught me on the M16A1. It's up to yourself, the shooter, to make darn sure that the charging handle is locked in place while nose is on it. I've seen what happens otherwise, not pretty!..Great video Midway!!!
Man, the good old M16 has a special place in my heart. Don't know if you know the game Operation Flashpoint but man, did I enjoy the heck out of this gun in that game. Now, as I am an adult, I have become a sport shooter (I am from Germany) and shot a few AR15s myself. The whole AR15/M4/M16 series rifles are just wow. Love it. Great video as always man, just pure information! Loving it!
Consistency of positioning. What a great habit to drill into yourself! It seems like keeping that exact same position - then adjusting a scope or red dot to fit it would be a really smart thing to do. With a scope especially - setting the scope forward or back so that the correct eye relief is for "nose to charging handle". Since regular red dots can be as far forward as you want - it would already be ok, and the consistent positioning would only serve to more quickly aquire the dot every time. ...... I'm going to go check my rifles now and see how close to that they are.
Other people have done it, but I'd like to see a detailed zero explanation from Henry on the A2. In-range and Mrgunsandgear go over it similarly. I'm curious if there's a contrast between that way and mil doctrine.
Interesting technique. Will try it with my Windham MPC AR next range day. Can't use it on the KelTec RDB because it doesn't have an AR-style charging handle.. But I do have an AR/M16 style carry handle on it so maybe I can adapt the technique
well.. iron sight can be adjusted with an adjuster . so measure the main point impact at the target board than recorrect the mpi to correct zero position
You should keep both eyes open but not just for situational awareness. Both eyes open supports muscular relaxation of face and eyes and when muscular relaxation is achieved, no matter the position, the shooter will be able to define proper natural point of aim adjustment to make recoil resistance consistent. And this is what causes bullets to go where aimed. Most shooters never realize Princess and the Pea sensitivity for exacting natural point of aim adjustment but it’s what separates champion long range shooters from other competitors. It’s literally The Secret to winning.
Yep, I know the technique, but I never liked it. My hold was always just back of the charger. I used both the A1 and A2, (service support) rarely got the later M4 series. I always qualified expert, at most dropping two out of a clean run on both KD (know distance) and UKD (unknown distance) targets out to 430-meters. Usually, the lost targets were due to a scorer who wasn't paying attention to target splash when the range officer would lock a selected set of targets to see if anyone was mis scoring.
So anyone know where to get those irons sights? I see the carry handle everywhere but not thr front sight. Is there a way to get it so I can have the set? If there is a way, what brand works good?
Depends on height over bore of the rifle. The barrel on an AR is almost directly in line with your shoulder, so your line of sight is significantly higher. Look at the carry handle or tall scope base on any AR, then compare that to scope ring height for a typical bolt action or iron sight height over bore for a lever action or a shotgun.
The as issued iron sights have a range finding and bullet drop compensation function whereby the front sight has apparent width of the E Type Target at 170 meters thus if this target appeared to be 1/3rd width of the front sight that target would be at about 500 meters from the shooter’s position and the shooter would need to adjust rear sight’s elevation wheel from the 300 meter position to the 500 meter mark.
Is no one going to comment about how he's throwing rounds all over the field past his goats while they nonchalantly munch away like there aren't bullets zipping past them and clanging off the metal targets a few feet away?? Are those combat goats brought back from Afghanistan?
@@Joel-e3b WTF LMAO?? Your theory is those are deer and they're shooting live rounds past them and they're just ignoring it? I need to come over and smoke whatever you've been growing.....
I too have injured myself shooting prone from left shoulder in 1000 yard competition where I use a very small rear aperture to get me a sharper sight picture. The small aperture forced me to get my eye closer to sight and that means my lip is right on the forward assist. The consequence from this lip to forward assist relationship is always bloody teeth.
I really can't believe midway thinks Wayne did a great job for the NRA. Just shows you how out of touch you guys are with reality just another company I will never do business with again
Join the Army National Guard in 1975. 11B. Had an M16a1 for the next 25 years. Nose to Charging handle works every time With iron sights. Consistent cheek weld, and eye relief. every time!
Consistency and simplicity are the keys. No thinking required.
Great video. Can you please cover the zeroing process with these same sights ?
This guy does great straight forward videos with just enough explanation and info.
Always learn the basics before moving to optics, thank you for posting the lesson.
Fact: the distance of eye to the rear sight aperture will change as the shooter’s position gets higher or lower if the shooter has a muscularly relaxed stock weld, resting the entire weight of the head on the stock. And it is from this condition that sight alignment can be best anchored, not from adjustment of the body to get the nose onto the charging handle. My opinion is based on my own success with shooting leading me to earn the US Distinguished Rifleman Badge and as a CMP-USAMU Military Rifle Instructor. So forget the nose to charging handle litany and accept the size of the aperture to front sight relationship which yields the most comfort, since such a relationship supports better accuracy no matter the apparent diameter of the sight picture.
I am in possession of a Sharpshooter ribbon from Navy bootcamp and I concur.
We'll need a video from yiu demonstrating what you mean. Not trying to be a PITA, I want to see what you mean.
My Squirrel tail collection supersedes your sharpshooter ribbon and I'll raise you all street lights in town were shot out on May 27th 1982.......@@KommonCents_
As a holder of the coveted distinguished marksman award from the Elbonian national guard bootcamp, I also concur.
You’re representing a different subject. While yes you make a similar point - regarding head alignment akin to “eye box” for a scope, Henry was illustrating a consistent placement front to back; a reference point on the rifle to obtain the same head placement, every time. Other instructors have beginners tape an ear plug on the stock as a reference point. Neither of you are wrong; rather, you discuss separate components of an essential marksmanship skill. Consistency.
Nose to charging handle is correct!...that is exactly how the Army taught me on the M16A1. It's up to yourself, the shooter, to make darn sure that the charging handle is locked in place while nose is on it. I've seen what happens otherwise, not pretty!..Great video Midway!!!
This video was a life changer, id been holding my rifles incorrectly this entire time.
It's alot like using a peep sight and anchors in archery. Well explained.
Man, the good old M16 has a special place in my heart. Don't know if you know the game Operation Flashpoint but man, did I enjoy the heck out of this gun in that game. Now, as I am an adult, I have become a sport shooter (I am from Germany) and shot a few AR15s myself. The whole AR15/M4/M16 series rifles are just wow. Love it. Great video as always man, just pure information! Loving it!
European Flashpoint or China or Afghanistan?
In a pinch i sometimes look just over the top of the peep focusing on the front sight & works really well....thank you so much for sharing brother 🇺🇸
Consistency of positioning. What a great habit to drill into yourself!
It seems like keeping that exact same position - then adjusting a scope or red dot to fit it would be a really smart thing to do. With a scope especially - setting the scope forward or back so that the correct eye relief is for "nose to charging handle". Since regular red dots can be as far forward as you want - it would already be ok, and the consistent positioning would only serve to more quickly aquire the dot every time.
...... I'm going to go check my rifles now and see how close to that they are.
That’s the way I learned! Expert every time!
Please make a vid on zeroing AR-15 sights and ballistics.
this guy is cool. I'd like to see him to do a video for the A1 sight.
great simple suggestion, never thought of that with an AR yet I use a similar concept with bow. thanks!
You tell em’ Henry! Nose to Charging Handle! That’s the correct way to do it.
Nice choice of feature for useful information
Other people have done it, but I'd like to see a detailed zero explanation from Henry on the A2. In-range and Mrgunsandgear go over it similarly. I'm curious if there's a contrast between that way and mil doctrine.
Interesting technique. Will try it with my Windham MPC AR next range day. Can't use it on the KelTec RDB because it doesn't have an AR-style charging handle.. But I do have an AR/M16 style carry handle on it so maybe I can adapt the technique
I soooo miss my A2.... its what I learned on . Hate my scoped AR
Just buy the a2 charging handle for your ar.
THANKS HENRY
Excellent video
Would you recommend nose to charging handle when shooting suppressed?
EXCELLENT ADVICE! THANKS!
well.. iron sight can be adjusted with an adjuster . so measure the main point impact at the target board than recorrect the mpi to correct zero position
Question.....do you shoot M16 A2 with both eyes open...?..😮
You should keep both eyes open but not just for situational awareness. Both eyes open supports muscular relaxation of face and eyes and when muscular relaxation is achieved, no matter the position, the shooter will be able to define proper natural point of aim adjustment to make recoil resistance consistent. And this is what causes bullets to go where aimed. Most shooters never realize Princess and the Pea sensitivity for exacting natural point of aim adjustment but it’s what separates champion long range shooters from other competitors. It’s literally The Secret to winning.
Yep, I know the technique, but I never liked it. My hold was always just back of the charger. I used both the A1 and A2, (service support) rarely got the later M4 series. I always qualified expert, at most dropping two out of a clean run on both KD (know distance) and UKD (unknown distance) targets out to 430-meters. Usually, the lost targets were due to a scorer who wasn't paying attention to target splash when the range officer would lock a selected set of targets to see if anyone was mis scoring.
You are right, the nose to charging handle relationship is incidental at best and only applicable from a prone position.
So anyone know where to get those irons sights? I see the carry handle everywhere but not thr front sight. Is there a way to get it so I can have the set? If there is a way, what brand works good?
Does it work with other type of rear sight
Depends on height over bore of the rifle. The barrel on an AR is almost directly in line with your shoulder, so your line of sight is significantly higher. Look at the carry handle or tall scope base on any AR, then compare that to scope ring height for a typical bolt action or iron sight height over bore for a lever action or a shotgun.
Great video!
Thank you for this tip!
What I learned to shoot on and how to shoot over 20 years ago
cool stuff, but how do you know range adgustmetns on iron sight)
The as issued iron sights have a range finding and bullet drop compensation function whereby the front sight has apparent width of the E Type Target at 170 meters thus if this target appeared to be 1/3rd width of the front sight that target would be at about 500 meters from the shooter’s position and the shooter would need to adjust rear sight’s elevation wheel from the 300 meter position to the 500 meter mark.
Im still loving this video instruction in 2024
This is much like how one uses a kisser button or touch the string with your nose on a compound bow.
I love ❤ m16 a2
This is how we were trained in The US Army'92.
Glad I was nosey enough to watch this video.
I wish I could get the M-16 sights. They are so much more accurate than the AR-15.
You can buy a carry handle from colt if you want. Just mounts to the picatinny and makes ur rifle like a car-15
Is no one going to comment about how he's throwing rounds all over the field past his goats while they nonchalantly munch away like there aren't bullets zipping past them and clanging off the metal targets a few feet away?? Are those combat goats brought back from Afghanistan?
Goats gotta eat.
Those are deer, necks are too slim to be goats. Besides, who the F would let goats on their shooting range?
@@Joel-e3b WTF LMAO?? Your theory is those are deer and they're shooting live rounds past them and they're just ignoring it? I need to come over and smoke whatever you've been growing.....
All in all, the would be assassin was just straight garbage (good thing)
You are screwed if you have a big schnoz
Wearing glasses complicates things a bit.
How to smell a fart in a cup I 9-Hole Reviews
The width if the front sight post is the width of a mans chest at 200 meters.
170 meters
I stand Corrected 175 meters
Thank you.......@@charlesludwig9173
200 meters-170 meters .... close enough for government work.
Spary and pray as they say,,,,,,,,,,@@warblerblue
*Promo SM* 🌈
Utter BS. I am left handed, followed his advice, put my face too close and the forward assist shattered my tooth after firing.
Tell me this isn't real 😭😭
I too have injured myself shooting prone from left shoulder in 1000 yard competition where I use a very small rear aperture to get me a sharper sight picture. The small aperture forced me to get my eye closer to sight and that means my lip is right on the forward assist. The consequence from this lip to forward assist relationship is always bloody teeth.
@@charlesludwig9173 I’m sorry to hear that. 😞
I really can't believe midway thinks Wayne did a great job for the NRA. Just shows you how out of touch you guys are with reality just another company I will never do business with again
Every time you climb the stairs with the action closed I cringe. Not actually shooting, open the action.
Because the gun will magically shoot itself unloaded with the safety on and nobody touching the trigger? Safety nazis ruin the range.
Perhaps you should make a video yourself?
Just bought a rifle rest from you guys for my ar15, can’t wait to zero her in 🫡