Finnish Mosin M28/30 at 600 Yards! Simo Hayha Rifle Accuracy Test
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- Опубліковано 15 лип 2024
- Simo Häyhä aka "The White Death", is known as the world’s deadliest sniper. He used a Finnish Civil Guard Mosin Nagant M28/30. Astonishingly, he was able to take down over 500 enemy soldiers in a span of a few months during the Winter War (1939-1940). For him to get this many kills, he had to use many concealment techniques and sniper tactics against the Soviets. He also had to have a trustworthy and accurate rifle, which was the Mosin Nagant M28/30. So is this rifle capable of long distance accuracy with iron sights? Can we replicate long distance engagements with it? In this video, we went to the Talladega Marksmanship Park in Alabama to find out. Our engagement distances were 100yds, 200yds, 300yds and 600yds. Needless to say, I was very surprised with the results!
Note: these M28/30’s were designed for the 7.62x53r, slightly different than the Russian 7.62x54r. This is most likely why the bullet shoots at a different elevation than what the rear sight is set to.
Chapters
0:00 History of the Finnish Mosin M28/30
2:06 Simo Hayha World's Deadliest Sniper
3:36 M28/30 used for Competition
4:00 The Talladega Marksmanship Park
4:21 100 Yards
4:42 200 Yards
4:49 300 Yards
5:12 600 Yards
5:54 Shooting Footage of 600 Yards
6:46 600 Yard Shot Group
7:52 Overall Thoughts on the M28/30
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Simo Häyhä preferred kneeling position; he said it was better for his aim. In shooting practice, he hit 16 targets at 150 meters in a minute. He had to reload after every shot and I think his rifle's capacity was 5 rounds. When asked what made him such a good shooter, he simply replied: practice.
That is impressive, and yes practicing the fundamentals is key. I didn’t know he preferred kneeling, I would rather take a kneeling position than a prone unsupported position
I have a M39 (B-day present from wife and son a few years ago). I love it! It seems to be more accurate with heavier-grain ammo, instead of the light-ball ammo.
look up analog load data for the Finnish 53R ball load. I believe it has a heavier bullet and larger powder charge.
M39 would make those 600 yd shots as well
Mine too. 203 grain works the best.
M39 was designed to use D166 bullet 180grain FMJBT
Pretty much all Finnish Mosins that got rebarreled by the Finns used .308 bullets in the 150 grain weight range, the M28/30 is interesting because of the target rifle quality's such as sight adjustments along with the multiple shims but the bullet mainly ment for that rifle is the D-46. The D-46 (185 grain .308) along with the D166 (200 grain .310 ment for the M39) are still made by Lapua but you have to handload your ammo because its not factory loaded, the powder used during that time is also still made (well at least closest to the original powder) by Vihtavuori and it is their N140 rifle powder.
Good shooting at the range! Lots of respect to Simo the White Death. Classic Firearms has some M28's in stock right now, I think I'm going to snatch one up.
Yea, I looked at the reviews on those. They appear to have great bores
Nice shootin!
Thanks!
I also have a Westington M-28/30, I’ve only been able to test it to about 400 yards with steel cased ammunition. Absolutely pleasant to shoot, and mine looks if not thee exact same.
My M28-30 was manufactured in 1940. I do not know the history but I guess it's been there. They did not produce these rifles for the stock. For an 80 years old rifle it still performs very well - with open sights the groups are comparable with the best AR-15-type rifles. Modern Tikka and Sako rifles (SKY, which developed the M28-30, became SAKO) are among the best, if not the best, in the world!
Good video. Enjoyed it. Grabbed mine from this latest Century batch. Pricey but I don't regret it one bit.
Glad you enjoyed it! I kinda wished I grabbed an M39 now… had a few opportunities in the past but didn’t like the price.
@@BattlefieldCurator I loved the M39 so much, I bought 2. One wartime stock and one post war stock. Finger groves where stock halves connect tell the difference. Try a Limb Saver when shooting to save your shoulder. Best, Bacon
@@baconx4 I actually got a M39 now, but a friend might want to trade something for it. It’s really accurate and I’m thinking about another M28/30
I have a 28/30and a M-39, great shooting rifles...
I haven’t shot my M39 at distance yet… I’m sure it will be just as good or better than the M28/30
Good shooting! With Finnish Mosins I like to shoot old civil guard drills. For example 3 rounds at 30 sec in chest figure target. Distance is 150 meters and shooting is unsupported prone.
I heard of the drills, I have to try it out
Nice shooting sir
Thanks, I do believe I could have made a better shot group though
Im here because of simo häyhä
I've got 2 M39 rifles, one with the older straight grip(Sako) and the other with the more pistol grip(Tikka?) , love them both.
Nice!
Nice. I just bought 2 of these m28/30s. Haven't shot them though unfortunately.
Whoah nice!
sounds like you need a taller front sight. They are available, and easy to change out. You can also try a couple of coats of flat black nail polish on the front sight.
Good shots. The sights were designed for finnish d166 cartridge which is slower than 54r and also 6 o`clock hold. Everybody seems to shoot high because of that.
Ah, ok interesting. I think I may take the M39 out there next time and try that
@@BattlefieldCurator I hope you like it even more after trying that. Excellent groupings and video.
@@petrisyrja-kokkila7103 thanks, I was actually really astonished at the grouping at that distance. I used PPU ammo, which may not be top quality but that’s what I had at the time.
I have yet to get one of these bad a$$es. Definitely on my list
M28/30 or M39 would be great additions. I was just surprised that I found this M28/30 locally some years ago
I own a M28/30 and a M91 Mosin from 1917. Unfortunately, my experience with the M28/30 has not been positive as it frequently jams, sometimes up to five times in a single outing. These jams are time-consuming to fix and can take up to ten minutes. On the other hand, my M91 Mosin is incredibly accurate and I can hit a bottle can from 120 meters away with ease. The M91 also boasts an easy-to-use sight that allows me to find my sight picture in less than a second.
Might need to get behind another m28/30
I see by the video you were using 7.62x54R in your M28/30. I haven't have not shot mine because they say to use 7.62x53R is the correct ammo to use for these rifles. I my might try it. What are your thoughts?
7.62x54r uses a .311 bullet if I recall. The 7.62x53r was a .308 bullet but later these got changed to a .310 diameter bullet. The rifles that were converted or produced for the new .310 diameter 7.62x53r would have a “D”. This one does not have a D and there is some over Pressure noted. It chambers a 7.62x54r and fires it fine. You can tell if it’s over Pressure by looking at the primer of a fired casing. If the primer is slightly bulged on the outside then it’s over pressured. Not all Finnish mosins may be able to handle 7.62x54r but the few that I’ve fired have been ok. If you can’t chamber a 7.62x54r in a Finnish Mosin or the primer gets blown out from the casing, then I would say that it should not be used to fire 7.62x54r. I’m not a gunsmith so I would say take it to a gunsmith for advice. He may be able to make the conversion.
@@BattlefieldCurator Thanks brother. That’s makes perfect sense. I was gonna shoot it anyways with my 7.62 52r. Thanks again for the video!
While shooting my M28/30, the front barrel screw unexpectedly flew off, and unfortunately, the same thing happened to my M27 Mosin Nagant as well.
Wow what are the chances… I have fired those models and haven’t had that happen
the bore is beautiful very shiny doesn't even eat the bullet
it has the original stock from the war it has battle damage is very beautiful
Can you say "PAST" Recoil Shield?
I'd love to take some of my milsurps at distances beyond 100 yards
All that land out west and there’s no range close by that’s over 100 yards???
Really good shooting at 600. Especially after so many rounds. I get a slight bruise after 20 shots myself. Guess im a puss lol
Lol yea my shoulder was red and bruised after that day!
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I think if your rifle has a "D" on it it's meant to shoot the heavy (13 grams and probably around 220 grains) Lapua D166 bullet. I'm not sure can the D46 bullet be as heavy as that too. Also the sights might be "calibrated" for that.
I definitely think the sights are meant for the heavier round
Mark " D " on a barrel means that trancition cone before rifling is longer. Thats because it made possible to use captured russian ammo.
I just bought my first Mosin, which is a M29/30. Mine is not D-marked, so I have to find or make 53R lmao
Load .308 bullets