@@custompixel3364 Back in those days, video cam was a rare item, especially in Asia. I doubt anyone brought it to film on roof top matches. Those fights were illegal anyway.
@@custompixel3364 it’s doubtful since it was the 40’s and 50’s and many of the people that witnessed the fights and bet on them were in the Triad and weren’t particularly fond of witnesses or anyone with evidence .
When you move slowly you are teaching your body relaxation and to switch off the muscles that aren't needed for the movement, this makes the practitioner faster because tension will only slow them down, you also learn the correct posture of the shapes through muscle memory
Why who told you that? Do you ever do it with dynamic tension? To tone the muscles like the Iron Body sets. Like a tree branch you push back as hard or harder than your opponent? Do you ever strike to wooden dummy with full force? So your forearms get hard and able to block a baseball bat if swung at you. Add Iron Palm to Wing Chung and you are a force to be reckoned with!!!
you only need to be "relaxed" in and while the fight. and "relaxed" doesn't mean you don't have power. it means that you don't tense up your fist before it riches the target. in a more simple way "relaxation" means "explosion". being fast only needs to be relaxed and not tense. but being fast AND powerful (explosive) means that you bring all your tense right at the moment of contact. and this timing believe me is the hardest thing to do!when you achieve that timing you can call yourself "master"
very true, I've tried to do a punch comparision, I punched with full power from the beggining, then I punched only applying the power in the end, and like you said, it's explosive when applying the power only in the impact.
Yes your right, but there are things you can do to help with that. Like Yi Chuan standing and slow relaxed movements. If you keep doing that for a few years, it helps with that relaxed feeling and burns into your body from the inside out the movement.
Every fighter should know not to waist your energy being tense while fighting. To only tense up right before you strike your opponent. Even boxers learn to do that.
this is yoga for the office workers , circulation to the wrist really helps with carpal tunnel, and requires no feet moving so you can just stand up from your chair and start doing it inside your cubicle without move feet movement
@eurekarecycler It is to let the blood circulate and energy to flow. It is called qi gong, training your mind to be calm in battle, strengthening your wing chun structure and stretching your tendons.
Technically he was the mentor of Bruce Lee, with a records more than 70 private organized fight had won.
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Set your metronome up, folks, and practice this with music. It really helps make the most detail out of each movement. You can practice your own tempo and flare afterwards.
Music is not going to be there in a altercation! Music while you are training all the time and you will need it psychologocally to get through a work out.
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@@rosemarietolentino3218 I meant "music" metaphorically, as the ticking of the metronome is pretty much the only thing you'll be hearing.
the 2 min 24 sec is how Ip Man taught it first but then Wong Shun Leung added the part at 2:46 because he felt that was useful. Then later everyone just did that part. This was the result of having gotten hit in a fight with a low punch . Originally in China both ideas were used in people's Little Ida form and it depended on how tall you were. every Wing Chun style uses both movements anyway.
I believe it was a kick that caused Wong Shun Leung to lose his only fight because Yip M an never taught it because he didn't use it himself that changed after the fight
great. i was getting real depri..as wing chun takes so long. however. after practising. with this video. it took my doubt and depression. away. thanx. for this
How can people learn if master Wong Shun Leung will do it very fast? How can we even see what he is doing. He is just breaking down each move of Sil Lim Tao so he has to do it real slow so we can catch up.
Disagree, I attended a seminar with the Tsui Sheung Tin class in HK last year and they teach SLT differently, their whole training is based around that first form and they teach relaxation through slow steady movements. The Chinese believe the less tension you hold the faster you punch, of course you can do it with tension too for conditioning, but my original comment was to someone asking about the benefits of slow movements. Thanks though for commenting
I find master Wong's form of Siu lim Tao a bit easier and more comfortable to learn than Sijo Yip Chun. You guys got Biu jee and Chum Kiu (or Tsum Kui) for master Wong?
Ray VR 1 second ago the 2 min 24 sec is how Ip Man taught it first but then Wong Shun Leung added the part at 2:46 because he felt that was useful. Then later everyone just did that part. This was the result of having gotten hit in a fight with a low punch . Originally in China both ideas were used in people's Little Ida form and it depended on how tall you were. every Wing Chun style uses both movements anyway.
ving tsun is a hard dicipline if u dont understand slt then your ving tsun sucks; he shows you but dont tell you, it is impossible to understand (learn,see) with the video.... the best way to understand is practicing with the one who practice with Wong Shun Leung ving tsun or his system and in europe there is master sifu philip bayer .....
Ray VR 1 second ago the 2 min 24 sec is how Ip Man taught it first but then Wong Shun Leung added the part at 2:46 because he felt that was useful. Then later everyone just did that part. This was the result of having gotten hit in a fight with a low punch . Originally in China both ideas were used in people's Little Ida form and it depended on how tall you were. every Wing Chun style uses both movements anyway.
Divide it to small sections, every section has its meaning. Once you understand the meaning of the form, it's quite simple to remember the whole sequence.
I thought this also then trained practice it for about six months then it's just natural movement the second form is more difficult to remember that took me like almost a year third for is more technical to get right but love it its a blessing when in a real danger to your life saved me numerous times
EurekaRecycler it makes you relax and by the time you put power you'll notice that you're faster. No tension in the muscles at all which makes you more effective in combat. In wing chun, speed is power
Dynamic tension is used once you have it down. You do this with dynamic tension most of the time. It is like doing the Iron Wire system in Iron Palm. Your going to get ripped if you eat right and train often!
Wing Chun has about 18 defensive hands and various attacking hands and they are all contained in this form as well as all the concepts of the art are contained in this form. A good teacher can explain all this to you.
I dont want to be a smarta..., but i dont get it why ppl still write the name as "Wong Shun Leung" in 2021. This was the way the name was written 50 or 100 years ago, but not today anymore. Its either in kantonese Wong Shun-leung or Wong Shunleung, or in mandarin Huang Chunliang. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wong_Shun-leung The Yale romanization has been overtaken by Hanyu Pinyin, which is more evolved and better understandable for western people. In chinese and korean the names basically consist of 3 single symbols, and they are written together without a space between them. If you translate them word to word it would be: WongShunLeung But this is not common in the west. But even Wong Shun Leung can be confusing since many ppl with think Shun is a middle name (like John Fitzgerald Kennedy), and the given name would only by Leung. Wong Shun-leung or Huang Chunliang shows clearly the 2 names Shun/Chun and Leung/Liang belong together which they do.
Some people just prefer the slightly snappy approach which is also used for movies. I met Wong Shun Leung in 1992 and he can do everything very relaxed as well. In fighting and touching hands with him. he was also very relaxed.
Красиво, но очень не эффективно. Любой более менее шустрый боксёр , вырубит его за раз, пока этот сэнсэй будет тужится да жестекулировать. Эта херня пригодна лишь для киношек
The correct name is " Shil Lim Tao " and correct Spelling . The Wu sao , tan sao is too Low and the gum sao is too close to the body . Plus they don't show and apply the application of the form . I say this with great Respect because I practice Wing Chun .
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A language with a dozen dialects, and you think there's a "correct name" and a "correct spelling"? A style with many lineages and deviations, and you think there's only one way to do it right?
Hahahaha. F'in moron. Do you know who this guy is? THE most senior student of GM Yip Man. But you, Pastor Vidro know more about Wing Chun than Master Wong Shun Leung did. I don't think so. I think your ego is greater than your skills.
Sadly Wong Shun Leung died of a stroke at the age of 61 in 1997.... He was a victor in at 60 fights, possible 100 fights..... R.I.P. Sifu Leung
does there have any video of that fights?
@@custompixel3364 Back in those days, video cam was a rare item, especially in Asia. I doubt anyone brought it to film on roof top matches. Those fights were illegal anyway.
@@custompixel3364 it’s doubtful since it was the 40’s and 50’s and many of the people that witnessed the fights and bet on them were in the Triad and weren’t particularly fond of witnesses or anyone with evidence .
Custom pixel...yes,thers a video on yotobe...black and white,bad quality,but if yo look for it yo will find...
Nooooo I just saw ip man and i was so excited rip groovy sifu :(
When you move slowly you are teaching your body relaxation and to switch off the muscles that aren't needed for the movement, this makes the practitioner faster because tension will only slow them down, you also learn the correct posture of the shapes through muscle memory
Why who told you that? Do you ever do it with dynamic tension? To tone the muscles like the Iron Body sets. Like a tree branch you push back as hard or harder than your opponent? Do you ever strike to wooden dummy with full force? So your forearms get hard and able to block a baseball bat if swung at you. Add Iron Palm to Wing Chung and you are a force to be reckoned with!!!
you only need to be "relaxed" in and while the fight. and "relaxed" doesn't mean you don't have power. it means that you don't tense up your fist before it riches the target. in a more simple way "relaxation" means "explosion". being fast only needs to be relaxed and not tense. but being fast AND powerful (explosive) means that you bring all your tense right at the moment of contact. and this timing believe me is the hardest thing to do!when you achieve that timing you can call yourself "master"
very true, I've tried to do a punch comparision, I punched with full power from the beggining, then I punched only applying the power in the end, and like you said, it's explosive when applying the power only in the impact.
Yes your right, but there are things you can do to help with that. Like Yi Chuan standing and slow relaxed movements. If you keep doing that for a few years, it helps with that relaxed feeling and burns into your body from the inside out the movement.
Every fighter should know not to waist your energy being tense while fighting. To only tense up right before you strike your opponent. Even boxers learn to do that.
this is yoga for the office workers , circulation to the wrist really helps with carpal tunnel, and requires no feet moving so you can just stand up from your chair and start doing it inside your cubicle without move feet movement
Yoga has nothing on this. And add some Iron Palm to it and your Wing Chung just got deadly…
One thing is true, that some people are masters of their own art, and everyone should learn from them
@eurekarecycler
It is to let the blood circulate and energy to flow. It is called qi gong, training your mind to be calm in battle, strengthening your wing chun structure and stretching your tendons.
Sure, and it guarantees money and happiness, enlightenment and a new fridge. ROFL.
Technically he was the mentor of Bruce Lee, with a records more than 70 private organized fight had won.
Set your metronome up, folks, and practice this with music. It really helps make the most detail out of each movement. You can practice your own tempo and flare afterwards.
Music is not going to be there in a altercation! Music while you are training all the time and you will need it psychologocally to get through a work out.
@@rosemarietolentino3218 I meant "music" metaphorically, as the ticking of the metronome is pretty much the only thing you'll be hearing.
I came here to learn and pay my respect thank you sifu🙇♂️ for your wing chun
the 2 min 24 sec is how Ip Man taught it first but then Wong Shun Leung added the part at 2:46 because he felt that was useful. Then later everyone just did that part. This was the result of having gotten hit in a fight with a low punch . Originally in China both ideas were used in people's Little Ida form and it depended on how tall you were. every Wing Chun style uses both movements anyway.
You are really a big help by sharing this because it is on everyone's mind but you put down the history behind it. Right on! :)
I believe it was a kick that caused Wong Shun Leung to lose his only fight because Yip M an never taught it because he didn't use it himself that changed after the fight
There are a few different sets of Wing Chung I have studied two of them already.
great. i was getting real depri..as wing chun takes so long. however. after practising. with this video. it took my doubt and depression. away. thanx. for this
It’s probably one of the easiest Kung Fu styles. There are only three sets.
they are not slow when used the practicality of them being done slowly is so you can see what they are doing plus it teaches the body muscle memory
How can people learn if master Wong Shun Leung will do it very fast? How can we even see what he is doing. He is just breaking down each move of Sil Lim Tao so he has to do it real slow so we can catch up.
he shows u how u have to pracand if u want to be fast u have to practise slower than that....
What are the benefits of regular practices of Sui Lim Tao ?
Thank you for all the comments here. I have learned a lot by reading all the wise and experienced comments from my brothers 🙏
Nice video! Great for practicing... Thanks for posting!
Thank you Master Wong.
Nice sil lum tao easy to follow along with good flow
Why did he put that extra step in between , does anybody know ?
Fine Master of this Art
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I follow this form..effective not as stiff as it looks all about holding the structure builds power
Some do it with no dynamic tension and some do it with it. You should do it both ways.
This was bruce lee teacher not only ip man amazing teacher amazing fighter
He was amazing
guys i want to ask, is the video mirrored or is it his right is on our left?
is not mirroed, you start with the left
I like the hidden circle hand with wing chun?
i am from Hong Kong 🇭🇰 我来自香港
Disagree, I attended a seminar with the Tsui Sheung Tin class in HK last year and they teach SLT differently, their whole training is based around that first form and they teach relaxation through slow steady movements. The Chinese believe the less tension you hold the faster you punch, of course you can do it with tension too for conditioning, but my original comment was to someone asking about the benefits of slow movements. Thanks though for commenting
You don't need to practice this in a tense and snappy way. Some people just prefer that way. Both ways are OK.
I find master Wong's form of Siu lim Tao a bit easier and more comfortable to learn than Sijo Yip Chun. You guys got Biu jee and Chum Kiu (or Tsum Kui) for master Wong?
I was taught two different ways to do it.
Very good
is there an extra step in there? interesting!
Ray VR
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the 2 min 24 sec is how Ip Man taught it first but then Wong Shun Leung added the part at 2:46 because he felt that was useful. Then later everyone just did that part. This was the result of having gotten hit in a fight with a low punch . Originally in China both ideas were used in people's Little Ida form and it depended on how tall you were. every Wing Chun style uses both movements anyway.
Right.... hence why it's called the Little Idea form.
ving tsun is a hard dicipline if u dont understand slt then your ving tsun sucks; he shows you but dont tell you, it is impossible to understand (learn,see) with the video.... the best way to understand is practicing with the one who practice with Wong Shun Leung ving tsun or his system and in europe there is master sifu philip bayer .....
Thank you
Student of Yip Man, but this version contains modifications. Why?
A beautiful form ;)
Has he added extra parts at 2mins 24 secs? Or I'm just stupid and slow
He added extras in. I thought it would be Bong Sau as he had already done the Tan Sau move.
So is this wrong?
It is not wrong. You can modify your Siu Lim tao :)
Ray VR
1 second ago
the 2 min 24 sec is how Ip Man taught it first but then Wong Shun Leung added the part at 2:46 because he felt that was useful. Then later everyone just did that part. This was the result of having gotten hit in a fight with a low punch . Originally in China both ideas were used in people's Little Ida form and it depended on how tall you were. every Wing Chun style uses both movements anyway.
is slightly different than my Ip Man lineage
if you keep the spacebar hit then you have slowmotion
lol you can just go to custom/setting and make the speed to 0.5 or 0.25
Where’s the music?!
the only problem is: how to remember the whole sequence?
Well DIVIDE in smaller parts ....
Go through smaller parts, get that, loop that. Then pick up another 3 or 4.
It is easier than a jutsu in naruto.
Divide it to small sections, every section has its meaning. Once you understand the meaning of the form, it's quite simple to remember the whole sequence.
@@zhasilo yes
I thought this also then trained practice it for about six months then it's just natural movement the second form is more difficult to remember that took me like almost a year third for is more technical to get right but love it its a blessing when in a real danger to your life saved me numerous times
What is the practicality of the real slow movements? Thanks
EurekaRecycler it makes you relax and by the time you put power you'll notice that you're faster. No tension in the muscles at all which makes you more effective in combat. In wing chun, speed is power
Slow is to relax and calm down your mind, like a QiGong type of practice. But just think simply that the idea is relaxation.
Dynamic tension is used once you have it down. You do this with dynamic tension most of the time. It is like doing the Iron Wire system in Iron Palm. Your going to get ripped if you eat right and train often!
you can also see my wooden dummy 7 days work cost around 60$ ;-)
What is this used for in wing chun
Wing Chun has about 18 defensive hands and various attacking hands and they are all contained in this form as well as all the concepts of the art are contained in this form. A good teacher can explain all this to you.
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I dont want to be a smarta..., but i dont get it why ppl still write the name as "Wong Shun Leung" in 2021.
This was the way the name was written 50 or 100 years ago, but not today anymore.
Its either in kantonese Wong Shun-leung or Wong Shunleung, or in mandarin Huang Chunliang.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wong_Shun-leung
The Yale romanization has been overtaken by Hanyu Pinyin, which is more evolved and better understandable for western people.
In chinese and korean the names basically consist of 3 single symbols, and they are written together without a space between them. If you translate them word to word it would be:
WongShunLeung
But this is not common in the west. But even Wong Shun Leung can be confusing since many ppl with think Shun is a middle name (like John Fitzgerald Kennedy), and the given name would only by Leung.
Wong Shun-leung or Huang Chunliang shows clearly the 2 names Shun/Chun and Leung/Liang belong together which they do.
Nice
Hi
too tense
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What is the name of this man please?
这是什么人的名字吗؟
Wong Shun Leung.
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حسين اندرويد You're Welcome :)
relax man
Some people just prefer the slightly snappy approach which is also used for movies. I met Wong Shun Leung in 1992 and he can do everything very relaxed as well. In fighting and touching hands with him. he was also very relaxed.
You're suggesting that one of the greatest Wing Chun Masters in the history of Wing Chun relaxes.
Wow you have one hell of an ego.
é uma pena que quase ninguém sabe que esse é o filho do ip man
Красиво, но очень не эффективно. Любой более менее шустрый боксёр , вырубит его за раз, пока этот сэнсэй будет тужится да жестекулировать.
Эта херня пригодна лишь для киношек
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i have a vid on my channel on the form if any can plz check out I have started training and im taping my progress
Bongsoa
The correct name is " Shil Lim Tao " and correct Spelling . The Wu sao , tan sao is too Low and the gum sao is too close to the body . Plus they don't show and apply the application of the form . I say this with great Respect because I practice Wing Chun .
A language with a dozen dialects, and you think there's a "correct name" and a "correct spelling"? A style with many lineages and deviations, and you think there's only one way to do it right?
I'd say the man who taught Bruce Lee Wing Chun probably knows what he's doing.
Hahahaha. F'in moron.
Do you know who this guy is?
THE most senior student of GM Yip Man.
But you, Pastor Vidro know more about Wing Chun than Master Wong Shun Leung did.
I don't think so.
I think your ego is greater than your skills.
crap
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Ur crap
What a tosser only an ignorant fool calls something crap they don’t understand.
Your video is plagiarism