Bertie and Elizabeth - King Edward VIII Abdicates
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- Опубліковано 23 жов 2009
- This is a really sad scene where bertie breaks down in front of this mother as he has to take on a life long job that he simply was not prepared for, and his older brother abandons him and his young family to the mercy of the media and later the second world war.
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Probably what made George VI such a good king is that he didn't want the job. Those who seek power make terrible leaders. Those who accept it reluctantly are always much better at it.
YES.
Like his eldest daughter.
When an actress plays the same character in two different stories. Impressive!
She’s actually played her three times (This film, The Kings Speech, and the Crown)
Dame Eileen Atkins is a marvelous actress
I wonder if she is a lot like Queen Mary, and maybe is the best one to play her!
Alex she wasn’t in the kings speech
@@alexness2451 She has portrayed Queen Mary on two occasions, in the 2002 television film Bertie and Elizabeth and in the 2016 Netflix-produced television series The Crown.
To see Bertie break down like that in front of his mother, it hammers down the sheer magnitude of the burden of the Crown that was thrown on him so suddenly. He proved to be the better King down the road, but at that point in time, he felt truly lost. Truly a somber and touching scene.
Queen Mary here is also the Queen Mary in The Crown. :D
Cat Castle i was so confused because of that!
She's a wonderful actress. But having seen both this and the crown, I'd say that her performance on The Crown is much better because of the excellent writing.
The actress is Eileen Atkins.
Bertie and Elizabeth
I thought she looked familiar
Its interesting how they acknowledge his stammer but dont go into how severe it was for him. It's nice to see that the media caught up with reality and they acknowledge the steps he took to overcome it even if it never really left him
As sad as it was back in the day, I think the better King got the job after the abdication! EVERYONE, must watch this excellent movie. God save the King!
Edward was damn coward 😤 Bertie was 20 times the man he ever was
I have always thought that the infamous abdication speech of King Edward VIII was so self centered, so immature, that one feels terribly sad for poor "Berti" who went on, as history will tell, to be one of the greatest Kings the United Kingdom ever had, as he overcame his own personal challenges and led his peoples around the world through that terrible war and on to victory.
James Fitzhugh What exactly did he do?
James Fitzhugh a
I have often thought that it was a blessing in disguise. David was a terrible king even in the short 11 months he was in the role, and even his prime minister Stanley Baldwin was appalled at the way David would return documents of state with red wine rings on them, or else didn't bother to sign them at all. Bertie turned out to be a great king and brought his daughter up in the same mould. The one flaw was the terrible toll it took on Bertie, which eventually killed him.
And let's not forget the Nazi sympathizing.
@@chooseyourpoison5105 Even George V wrote hoped David would die a bachelor so George VI could be king.
Actually what Margaret said to Elizabeth when she heard was "Poor you."
Oh my God! Were you there to hear what she said? That is too cool.
@@ghost-ez2zn Oh my god do you have to be such a dick about it. There's probably evidence from both Margaret and Elizabeth saying that's what she said
The queen said it in an interview 5 years ago
Seeing Bertie break down is heartbreaking 😭😭😭
I am not in any way a 'monarchist' or 'royalist' but we DO have a fantastic,rich history in Britain,and we DO turn out a damn fine drama.
Writing very good, pace excellent, and acting very good too.
And you have the finest, creme de la creme, impeccably talented actors to play all these characters in every series ever made about them, then and now.
Now practically all the shows that I watch on TV are UK Shows.
And here I am, an American Monarchist; I am so very jealous of the traditions and rich, vibrant history of the country, and monarchy.
Honestly, Wallis Simpson probably saved not just the British monarchy, but countless lives in the subsequent WW2 as well as the Cold War. Edward's views on the Nazis is well known by this point, and he likely would have publicly pushed for a surrender to Germany after the fall of France, which would have consigned countless innocents to the wrath of the Nazis. And this would have made things very difficult for the Western Allies. Even if the Allies still won the war (the invasion of the USSR would likely still have ended disastrously) England was the launching point for D-Day. If England had surrendered, it would have been far more difficult for the US and other allies to make the Western front, meaning that the USSR likely would have swept through all of Europe and blanked it all under the Iron Curtain. And Edward VIII would have been seen as a Nazi collaborator, likely leading to a referendum that would have turned Britain into a Republic the same way that Italy's monarchy ended.
Oh no. An American saved Great Britan ? Damn it all!
Sure I guess she saved people by existing. However, I highly doubt she had this in mind. She was recorded as being notoriously cruel towards people both outside and in the royal family. The first thing she demanded after the abdication was money despite the fortune long Edward III acquired before becoming king.
its really what bob ross would call a happy little accident.
Operation Barbarossa would probably have still been just as costly, but I don’t know if it would be a disaster.
If there is no UK in the war, if there is no France, then Japan doesn’t need to attack pearl harbor on dec 7 1941.
Which means there is no African campaign, no Italian invasion. Rommel isn’t needed anywhere but the East, and that is a dangerous notion for the Russians.
All of the resources from areas taken by the Reich can no be solely directed east, a one front war.
After Stalin is killed and Russia falls, the Jews and Slavs are subjugated and worked to death. The US would probably be the last bastion for jews, but eventually with Germany left unchecked the US would have to give them up and accept Nazi suzerainty.
Norway, Finland,Sweden would have again been German puppet states and Sweden and Switzerland would not have been able to maintain neutrality and likely would also accept suzerainty.
Hmmm
This could actually make for an incredibly interesting alternative history book based solely on the butterfly affect of a queen consort maggie.
Correct CW Simpson. Noel Coward is said to have stated there should be statues of Mrs Simpson, because she spared us the disaster of Edward VIII. Politician & biographer Roy Jenkins asserted: had Edward been king in 1940, Churchill might well have had to either imprison him, depose him, or both. It was VERY hard on George VI (and George seems to have made it worse by smoking). Still, Britain and those who needed her in WWII were far better off with George VI, who could be remembered as 'George the Great'.
Yet he went on to be such a great King leading Britain through the darkest times.
Really Edward VIII done a great job and gave George VI and Elizabeth II as our monarchs....
I love this precursor to The Crown. Juliet Aubrey was especially wonderful in a stellar cast; not to mention the adorable little tot who played Princess Margaret.
The actor who played later-King George VI looks so similar to Prince Philip in his young age 😍😍
Elizabeth would have become queen anyway, but not until much later in life. Assuming Edward VIII stayed on the thrown and married Simpson, and had no children, and died in 1972 as he did, she would have become queen then. Lots of what-ifs, but still likely. However, we now have the longest serving monarch in British history, and the 4th longest serving in world history (depending on how you define monarchy)...doing a job she didn’t want.
No wonder she plays Queen Mary. She plays it so well
I own the film and watch it over and over. It would have made extraordinary fiction, but the fact it all really happened makes it even more compelling. Whenever people say the royal family is dull, I tell them in truth they are just the opposite. They have led remarkable lives packed with remarkable experiences and turns in the road. This film also reminds us of Queen Elizabeth II's singular childhood and equally singular parents.
“I Ed with the AIDS of Great Britain.” - The captions
You’ve quoted this as if the captions made a mistake. That’s a completely accurate description of Edward VIII.
@mc0558 Take your point but apparently Bertie was mistreated by his first nanny & was 'royally' teased & bullied - he's one I would cut a bit of slack. Also he performed very well under immense pressure during WWII.
Yickbob I recall him being called the Nazi King and wanted London to get bombed during ww2
Endless Darkness The Nazi King was King Edward VIII aka Duke of Windsor. He was the traitor that gave the Nazis intelligence to bomb Britain and Buckingham Palace. He thought if he did that then once Germany won the war he would be restored to the throne of England. One of the many reasons why he was made to abdicate the throne. The Wallis romance was just use as a diversion. King George VI (Bertie) led the country to win the war with support from the allies. He raise the morale of his country during the war to encourage people not to give up and continue to fight and support the cause.
No Margaret, you're second, not first.
🤣😅😂
Dame Eileen Atkins plays Queen Mary with Regal elegance and style stern and steely! 🥰
He abonded all the duties and great burdens of all that on him
Queen Mary certainly had grandure.
The last Empress of India....
A great dame!!!
It was said that talking to Queen Mary felt like talking to St. Paul's Cathedral.
"well qualified to take my place"
lol... with the benefit of hindsight - it's more like "far better qualified" LOL
Edward died in 1972. At that point, Elizabeth would have become Queen anyway. The only thing which would have changed in our current succession, is the presence of George VI on the throne.
Not quite that simple. Our discourse during WWII may have been drastically different with Edward still as King. George (or Bertie) would’ve lived a less stressful life in the meantime and who knows, maybe even had a son (usurping Elizabeth) while while the Queen Mother was still able to plausibly conceive.
@@strykah92 True, there are so many variables here.
George VI might live longer and become the king before his daughter, QE2. Charles III might have a closer bond with his parents.
God Save the King.
George VI was the better man and he passed it to Elizabeth II. RIP to both.
Is this same actress portraying Queen Mary in The Crown?
pokergalpoker yes
Yes she is
Dame Eileen Atkins
She played her in the King s speech too . 3 times !
@@marionarda2790 Just like Michael Sheen playing Tony Blair.
In this series, the actor looked much like George VI. Colin Firth does not remotely resemble him.
It seems to me that the Windsor women are the ones with all the balls. Perhaps they should have worn the Crown. I cannot see one of them abdicating for some goddamn man.
Low blow dude. George V and George VI were good rulers.
One of them is currently wearing the crown.
@@s3jb453 Looking at it through 21st-century eyes, most likely not. The rules were different in George V's time.
He made a choice. Not everyone would choose love. But he did. I think he was actually incredibly selfless. He knew he would never have been a good king. Never.
Except that he collaborated with Nazis so that he could get his brother killed and wanted to sit on the throne again with Wallis as the Queen.
@rockinoliver The King and Queen went to President Roosevelt's home in Hyde Park and he served them hot dogs! From "Nathans" no less!.
Queen Mary? Again? Wow. The Crown and here.
She played the same roles..🔥
@mc0558 ,
Just a small point.You say Lady Olivier was ok.I think you may be referring to Sylvia Simms,who portrayed Queen Elizabeth,the Queen Mother.Lady Olivier,(Joan Plowright),wasn't in The Queen.Trivial,I know,but I thought I'd get in on the act,as every-1's correcting every-1 else,lol.Though I agree,Helen Mirren WAS amazing & Sheene as Blair was spot-on.Your observation on the 'actor' playing Charles to Frank Spencer was inspired,lol.
I like the way that if the first few seconds of KGVI's reign, his children are already bickering about succession.
Just like all kids of that age anything to get under the other ones skin today it is touching their phones or Xbox ,my day it was sitting in the car and leaning over towards your sister or brother breathing their air and causing a fight in the back of the car .
King George V should think carefully for his son's future wife before being succeeded. King George VI is more appreciated than Edward VIII (aka. Prince Edward, Duke of Windsor).
KGVI was beloved by his people. He got them through a world war.
@@sitizenkanemusic just like his father before him, King George V led them through the First World War
@laminage ... I have seen that one here on 'youtube'... Anthony Andrews plays 'David', King Edward VIII... Interesting perspective, as seen from Wallis's point of view... Best regards from Wales UK ... :0)x
What's the name of this movie I want to watch it?
@thr33wisemonks ... If you look to the right of this post, you will see 'Bertie and Elizabeth' posted by @BritishRoyalFilms... there are 11 parts and it is really good too, hope this helps.
Best regards from Wales UK ... :0)x
I have had a good look and found out what the series with Jane Seymour is called ... It is 'The woman He Loved' posted by @VictorianLady2... :0)x
@FlyingSquarePancakes Oh, I know that Hun. I was just saying that was the movie that I admit got me more interested of This Generation. I was a Teeneger when I first heard about King Edward Abdicating then I saw a TV Movie with Jane Seymour. Very interesting Family.
George is really upset because, he felt like everything was just bored and on him just like that. Because he wasn't hair Apprentice.
What movie is this?
Elizabeth: I’m first in line of succession
Margaret: SO AM I!
Elizabeth: No you ain’t bitch, your second!
Margaret: Second for now, Just you wait 😈
@FlyingSquarePancakes The King's Speech starring Colin Firth.
What is this? A film, or series?
This can't be the Crown.
@goodcatholicboy I agree!!
@FlyingSquarePancakes
Bertie and Elizabeth.
I love the British dramas sent here to the colonies. Love the actors and actresses too. I can always catch American actors/actresses acting, but never the Brits. My favorite king is Henry II, love the way he stood up to the corruption of the RC church, and rid himself of the "meddlesome priest" Becket. Henry II was right, and Hollywood got it wrong with the Burton movie. Thanks for all the great drama, Brits! Nobody could have withstood the "blitz" the way you all did.
I can promise you that we brits can spot bad acting in another Brit! It’s just the accent, don’t let it fool you! We’re not as smart as we sound…
Edward probably didn’t want to give away his freedom just for being a king lol he said fuck dat and pissed off with his rejected wife
What is this from? I clicked this link thinking it was from The King's Speech.
It was a mini-siries that aired PBS
Bertie and Elizabeth on PBS -- the entire series is on here.
@kimokaker ,
Glad you agree. : )
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@thr33wisemonks bertie and elizabeth
@goodcatholicboy Can I get a Witness. I'll say one thing, Prince William has no idea how lucky he is to be able to Marry Katherine because there was a time in the not too distant past where he may not have been allowed.
laminage It was more custom than mandate. Unlike Germany, Russia, and Austria, the UK did not mandate equal marriages. They just were not the custom--but it was only starting to happen more often in George V' s reign. The present Queen's mother and her sister-in-law (the Duchess of Gloucester) were not Royal-born.
Thanks for the clarification. UK Royal History is amazing.
What movie did this come from please.
Bertie and Elizabeth is the name
@popazz1 Too right.
It sure is a great scene, but I sure wish I knew what it was from... Movie? TV series? What?
THe movie is Bertie and Elizabeth, same as the title of the video. It is on UA-cam
What film/drama is this?
Bertie and Elizabeth
lol the current queen (Elizabeth II) 'im 2nd in line of succession' :D
FatPizza56 At the time, George was heir-presumptive. The idea was that Edward would settle down, marry a suitable woman, and have children. Little did anyone know that Edward would choose a woman who many saw as a scheming golddigger.
that was Princess Margaret
@@katapult2000 in the Netflix series the crown 👑 there is a scene were Elizabeth and Margaret are in their bedroom 🛌and Elizabeth doubts she can be queen and Margaret tells Elizabeth that she would enjoy being the queen 👑 and asks Tommy Lacsells if she can be queen 👑 and he scolds her for thinking of the idea.
What show is this?
The film title is in the title of the video.
Good thing he did abdicate or he would have given everything to Hitler.
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King George is supposed to have a bad stutter. What movie is this?
Bertie and Elizabeth. It's a television film that was commissioned for the Golden Jubilee of Queen Elizabeth II and it aired in 2002 two months after the death of Queen Elizabeth, the Queen Mother. It focuses on the love story between Bertie and Elizabeth from their first meeting to Bertie's death in 1952.
@laminage No that's not Colin Firth haha
he does sort of stutter in this scene...
He did in life.
@tanonginosibalasi Absolute b.s.!!
This is what Prince William could have said to Prince Harry....
Don't worry Harry will be back in the family fold in the near future I do not see this marriage lasting for him and Meghan Markle
Didnt Constantine ii of Scotland abdicate?
Yes
Is lil Elizabeth played by the child that played her in the crown
no
@@elliereed9890 yeah i realized how old this movie was after i asked that
It is impossible, of course, to generate an ounce of sympathy for these folk, only pity.
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No idiot, Wilhelm II was a grandson of Queen Victoria. thats the only think German in the family.
This ad offends beyond decency..
The ad for this clip is an attack on democracy..yay Biden!
So much worse than the brilliant film
Two different things.
He could have been saying the same about Meghan Markle.........
Elizabeth: I’m first in line of succession
Margaret: SO AM I!
Elizabeth: No you ain’t bitch, your second!
Margaret: Second now, Just you wait 😈
Hahaha 🤣🤣
What movie is this?
The film title is in the title of the video.