Sir Jacob Rees Mogg highlights the ways in which Labour is more & more like the Tory party 5/6
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- Опубліковано 8 гру 2024
- Sir Jacob Rees-Mogg speaks in proposition of the motion that This House Does Not Know What Labour Stands For.
The Right Honourable Sir Jacob is the Conservative MP for North East Somerset. Rees-Mogg returned to the backbenches following Rishi Sunak's appointment as leader of the Conservatives (& therefore as Prime Minister) in 2022 having served in Cabinet under the leadership of Boris Johnson & Liz Truss.
This speaker is a competitive debater and the views expressed may not represent their beliefs.
This is the fifth speech of six.
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This is such a good speech. So many are so blinded by Tory hate to see it.
and many are so blinded by partisan loyalty they cant see they're being played. Uniparty are all talk with no intention of ever giving the people what they want. How many governments will you all need to serve under before the penny drops.
It's a good speech, but from a man who agrees with terrible polices. Telling women what they should do with their bodies, even if they have been raped.
No, It isn't a great speech, It's a decent one. Please let me be clear, the conservatives have produced some truly unbelievable and engaging public speakers throughout the years (Micheal Heseltine springs to mind), but this man is simply not among them, an average orator at best.
His speeches regularly meander about and only have the narrowest pretense of witt and craft behind them, he reminds me of a tourist shirt you would see in London with a picture of the late queen plastered on the front, totally bereft of any real British culture and British sentiment, a walking stereotype, a sophist.
The simple fact is this, this man inherited wealth and calls it skill and hard work, many before him have been in this position but they had a sense of A) their privilege and B) the fact that they are our elected representatives. I don't hate the rich, and I also don't hate the conservatives but they ARE a stale party out of ideas and more crucially, actively ignoring what the nation needs on a broader level. They do this for the sake of their statistically narrow loyal registered members. If you think I am being partisan look at the record on rail links between Manchester and London, a successive whirlwind of Conservative prime ministers have, in the last five years, all gone back on vital infrastructure plans, with Sunak perhaps being the worst offender, undoing Truss's consent for the plans to go ahead, only to give his signature to later back the issue! There is simply no sense of a steady hand with the conservatives at present.
What the UK needs is seriousness as well as electoral reform and in the more immediate short term, another government so the Tories can sit on the opposition benches and actually learn from their mistakes (which is frankly inevitable after so long in power) there were many good and respectable conservatives who quite during the Brexit chaos years who sadly have been replaced with populist, lazy tabloid level bullshit artists.
To be fair and return to your point, which is a good one! We must not engage in partisan hatred and we have to be able to give our opponents their dues and respect where earned, Margaret Thatcher strikes me as a strong example of what I mean. She was the right person for the job concerning the defense of The Falkland Islands, her opposition at the time would have likely not had such a strong response which would have weakened Britain's position on the world stage.
Healing this wonderful country starts with the admission that there will always be a need for compromise.
@Scotmend To long mate.
It's pure waffle mate, he spent about 10 words on the question about truth and then went back on about 'u-turn starmer' as if that's the biggest political issue facing britons. Absolute crooked hypocrite.
He's correct in pointing out the Labour stands for nothing.
The fact that are prime ministers come from the Oxford union and Eton is a sad thing. We need expertise not just the people who have been prepped for power as if it is their birthright.
They are the most prestigious education institutions in the country though... Where can you go to get better expertise?
I would prefer to have a prime minister who was intelligent enough to be accepted into the best universities in the world, rather than a prime minister who couldn't even obtain any GCSEs. However, in a way, your comment does make sense. Nowadays, there are too many career politicians who enter parliament immediately after graduating. Politics should not be treated merely as a career path; instead, it should be pursued by individuals with real-life experiences who believe they can make a positive impact on public life.
@@reprep4821But then you get senile politicians who have one and only one view of the world
Have you ever visited Eton or any Oxford University? Our politicians have compete with the likes of China, Russia and the United States of America. I want the best team out there.
Rees-Mogg has long been the best Parliamentary speaker and the best Oxford Union speaker. When the Tories get voted out at the end of this year, he will also be the new Leader of the Tory party. As such he will destroy Starmer and Labour every week at PMQ's as mercilessly as he destroyed them in this debate. Human performance, individual as well as collective, matters. Rees-Mogg is a top performer and Starmer isn't - which means that the Tories will be back in power in 2029 under Rees-Mogg and Labour will be the party looking for a new Leader.
For those hoping that Rees-Mogg will lose his seat in North East Somerset in the general election, dream on. That's a fantasy. He will win North East Somerset comfortably. That's the reality.
I hope you are right, but struggle to see it atm
I don't know about you, but my priority when choosing a leader isn't to do with their speaking ability, it's to do with their actions. Also, there's precious little chance of Rees-Mogg ever ascending to leader - he's a bit of a laughing stock within his own party (outside the ERM, ofc)
The reality is that Rees-Mogg did lose his seat and the UK is now a happier place.
@@anthonyanderson2405 Indeed - 4 months is a long time in politics and at the time of writing I had not thought (a) that Sunak and his Liberal Tory clique would have been exposed so fully for the corrupt, dysfunctional clowns all of them are or (b) that Nigel Farage would lead their destruction in180 seats and win in 5 others.
Two big mistakes on my part, which I am perfectly happy to admit. At least conservatives have now got a new, genuinely conservative party and a new, genuinely conservative Leader. Farage is not quite Rees-Mogg but he'll still make life hell for Starmer and the latter's own corrupt, dysfunctional Liberal clique in the days, weeks, months and years ahead, both inside Parliament and outside Parliament on GB News. All good. Have a great day.
At least Jeremy Corbyn stood for something. Keir Starmer seems to be "catch all the centre."
People don’t like him because he’s well spoken and talks like so many Englishmen used to.
But objectively speaking, he may be the most intelligent, family orientated and patriotic person in England/Britain. He should be prime minister. He’s the most equipped for the job.
lad sitting behind him has to be stoned, no ones ever found mogg that funny
was thinking the exact same thing
I'll join.
In democracy, except may be in times of great crisis, you need to compromise. It is one of the big difference with dictatorship.
Thing is, Labor has a freebie this election and can be as ambitious as they want. They have scrapped popular policies for no discernible reason. And I would argue that the UK is most definitely in a time of great crisis, the future looks bleak in many ways
Most people know it, Keir Starmer stands for nothing.
The genuine personality.. able to transcend boundaries and unify the masses
God help us.
😐😐😐🙄
Pointing out 26 policy U-turns is fair, and I agree that Labour need to be careful not to sacrifice their principles for the sake of winning at all costs, if the risk is that they actually lose again because voters have nothing to vote for (even if they do want to vote against the Conservatives, there are alternatives in the ascendancy which will split the anti-Tory vote). You can vote against the incumbent party once to get them out. But you need to know what the incoming party stands for if they want the public to keep them in office.
JRM might not be someone I agree with on anything, but his reasoning on the importance of ideology is sound. He should know, because his father William co-authored 'The Soveriegn Individual', which explains a lot of Jacob's world view, and suggests the general public should be more concerned about the ideologies of our democratically elected representatives.
However, while the Oxford Union might set an 'exam question' which facilitates a fairly one dimensional argument interested only in Labour's failings, the same criticisms can all be levelled at the Conservatives. They can only dream of just 26 U-turns...
he's not wrong, thats why we vote green :)
No party is foolproof, remember when libdems were voted in favour over conservatives and how that fucked over millennials and students.
How would you think green party would deal in war scenarios, terrorism, putin, homelessness, county lines, economic crisis...
I bet they would be utterly spineless and useless just as much as other parties if not more.
@@appleroad112 How do you think right-wing parties would deal with the economy, homelessness, education, healthcare, xenophobia, the housing market not to mention extortionate train fares and the automobile epidemic, etc etc etc. That's right they don't. Green isn't the best, but it is the best we've got. we arent being invaded by Putin, nor will we be (nuclear power, backed by nato), nor will we realistically be involved in any defensive wars, and I'm of the humble opinion that we should stay the fuck out of other countries instead of invading them for oil..... again county lines and terrorism are hardly problems compared to everything else I've mentioned. oh, and green are the only party against genocide XD, how could I forget?
A great orator.
It would be good to hear Sir Jacob talk on how europe cosies up to other countries who have their eyes on Israels trillion cubic feet of natural Gas off her shores and that is what this current chaos is all about. Who can get their grubby hands on it first, if Israel gets in their way so be it.. We are not distracted by fear mongering.
10:52 "...Labour is sacrificing the desire for office for its principles..." ? I think he meant the opposite
It is interesting that someone actually listened
Mogg will be able to do many more Oxford Union debates once he loses his seat at the General Election very shortly. The audience will be Mogg fatigued within a very short time.
It’s absolutely mad to think of rural Somerset not being blue (I actually had to google the polls to believe you). They’ve so screwed themselves if even the NFU set are turning their backs
I will miss seeing u speaking in parliament
THIS OXFORD UNION ´DEBATES´ ARE MORE ABOUT ENTERTAINMENT THAN A SERIOUS DISCUSION ABOUT SUBJECTS !
And they keep the plebs and mock them in the top rows. - ua-cam.com/video/gWnMgMEVABM/v-deo.html
As if David Cameron wasn't a btec Blair and made his party imitate New Labour
The Tory's relationship with the truth was a blinder
Dame Hilda Bracket really was on form!
What a complete joke he is.
Only to those with no brains nor the wit to understand what he's talking about.
Is he wearing spats?! Jesus Christ 🙄
Your socioeconomic status is showing. Go be jealous elsewhere
he forgot boris lying and breaking the law
Starma did exactly the same thing - partied in his office but the MSM overlooks any of Labour's faults because htey want them in to wreck the country.
I didn't know he was a 'Sir' - seems they're dishing out knighthood to anyone these days
well to most people, both parties are the same and both are equally awful & therein lies the problem, we see that both puppets are held up by the same hands, hands that just hate BRitish people and nations in general
How long are Tories out power 10 years Thomas.
Thatcherite and ultra-conservative 🤮
he has a point here 🙈
Jacob Rees-Mogg reminds me of Francis Urquhart from House of Cards (portrayed by Ian Richardson).
This is pretty pathetic. . This Sir is an relic of ancient times. Sorry for comparison.
But how can truth be championed by one who implicitly disowns and disavows it on behalf of his party ,as comment from the floor attests 😊
26 u turns gives?
Patrick Lenart Austrian socialist yes
He is unbearable
Unbearable is someone with a red bowtie.
😂
Mogg, 14 years of failure, by every single metric.
Not a fan, but he’s only served in govt for 3 of the 14 years
@@michaelmccomb2594 it’s the same narrative he uses, this is his party, he voted for and still supports austerity, which has estimated to have cost 400,000 lives.
He doesn’t want to take responsibility for anything, but he is responsible. His voting record shows that.
Brexit being probably the worst thing he has promoted.
@@ClannCholmainKey word "estimated" eg. Made up / guess
@@dddboom yes, it could be more or it could be less.
It’s way too many.
Food banks, homelessness, destitution, hygiene poverty, childhood malnutrition, all becoming the norm.
@@ClannCholmainyes he will defend them because he’s a lifelong Tory and like every Tory they have their idealised version of the party that they believe will change the country for the better. He has his version, Rory Stewart has his and Michael Gove has his.
But he’s not exactly been a powerful figure within this conservative government, nor has the party been much aligned with his vision of Conservativism.
The circus is over Jacob. You and labour throwing each other enough of a lifeline to ensure your two party system survives. Reform are here and they are not going away. Hopefully you end up with no more than 60 seats this time and they can tackle labour next time if we've a country left. And if he havent hey ho, I hope you and your mates are pleased with yourselves.
A real trash😅
Serious questions about why he’s being given a platform like the Oxford union?
This man is an absolute joke.
Mogg's impression of himself is detatched from the reality of results
Is anybody interested in what this has-been has to say?
Clearly you
Says the never was!
NO TAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION. Here we go Sir mogg, the mass debater, vide verdi taks a load of bolloks
Odious
Just where Rees Mogg belongs, student politics....a million miles from a government ministry. People forget the jackboot behind the comedy routine.
I'll be laughing at you and you'll be crying in six months with a Labour government that will wreck what is left of the UK.
@@janc3207 The conservatives shouldn't have been so shit