Having more vram can compensate for having less system RAM. Hardware unboxed did a very interesting video on this topic many years ago now. They tested (if I remember correctly) the 4GB and 8GB versions of the 570 and 580, and also the 3 and 6GB versions of the 1060, in a test system with both 8 and 16GB configurations. Some games which didn't really need more than 4GB of vram for good performance when there was 16GB of system RAM would see performance fall off a cliff when using a system with only 8GB of system RAM, but 6 or 8GB versions of these graphics cards would typically see the performance go back to a good level, even with only 8GB of system RAM. These systems were still using two sticks, with dual channel mode, even in the 8GB configurations (it was DDR4). I don't know what the limitations of this would be, as I am anything but an expert on how a game will make use of system RAM and vram, and some games or game engines may be better than others in terms of how they can make use of more vram in a situtation with not a lot of system RAM.
No I do not think so. 16gb ddr4 3200Mhz 16-18-18-18-36cl corsair vengane is used to my 5800X3D but in few games I noticed ram memmory not enough qnd usage was 15gb with all backgrounds when playing and I put in some old almost unused hyperx fury 2666Mhz 15cl and my voltage at 1.38 and Mhz at 3200, works pretty good and stable for mixing ram memmory XD
@@Wickery. Search how to increase ram page file, but it just increases the amount of storage used as virtual ram, so unless you have like 4g or 8g of ram you may see a small improvement
@@adamadamx5464 Eh not that diotic if you get it for cheap. Recently got a 2x8gb Kit for my backup rig (i7 3770 and gtx 750ti ) as it was only 12€ to replace the 2x4 kit (only 2 dimm slots)
Given current pricing, there's not much reason to not get 32GB. Even if you're on a tight budget, you can probably manage to have at least 16GB. Upgrading an old DDR4 based system from 8GB to 16GB will likely make a big difference in some games.
Great video. Surely Ram is more affordable now. Alot of people who look at 16GB VS 32GB, are only paying attention to the frame rate. For me... the entire system feels better with 32GB ram. The fact that I can have chrome with 10 tabs and play my game ... alt tab ... check stuff.. back into game.. and everything feels fine is comforting to me.
How is that even possible? I have 16GB RAM, I can have Firefox open with like 50 tabs and a second Firefox (a fork of it) with like 10 tabs while I have a game running and dont even have 10GB RAM usage. But ok, I dont use Windows tho. But I doubt that Windows is THAT bad in RAM management?
I strongly suggest to upgrade to at least 32GB, especially for DDR4. Sold my 16GB kit for 40 Euro and bought brand new 32GB kit for 70 Euro. Dirt cheap!!
As you mentioned, Dual channel (1/3 or 2/4 slots, depending at mobo. Never use 1/2 or 3/4) if identical memory kits too, does a massive difference. I remember back at Battlefield 1 days. Me and a fiend of mine, we had exactly same systems. Cpu, gpu, expect memories. He had 32 Gb 1 stick, and i had also 32Gb but 16+16 as dual channel. In game he had 50 to 60 frames, while i had 70 to 100. Excellent video once again Fabio :-)
What a coincidence, I ordered 32GB DDR4 Vengance RT kit today, and you drop this video today, and by the looks of it, I made the right decision to upgrade the ram :D
One thing I noticed going from 2x8 to 2x16 was that things felt way more stable, I've had 1 drive timeout after months, where I would have them almost weekly, even trying all the fixes. Activating SAM really helped as well on stability with more RAM.
Really wanted to see 12 game average with apps open since that was the main reason I upgraded to 32gb. Without apps open the difference between 16gb and 32gb is 2%, but with apps open I would guess for some games it could be more than 10% difference between 32gb and 16gb.
32GB of memory is so cheap nowadays that it's probably the best option to go for, unless you're on a budget. But when it comes to gaming, I wouldn't get 32GB with the aim of more performance, that might be the case in the coming years as games use more memory, but for now I would buy it simply to have more memory to play with, it's also great having more memory when playing with A.I. through the cpu and honestly, with how cheap memory is, my next upgrade is likely going to be 64GB.
I'd still tell someone building a pc on a budget aim for DDR4 16gb. It'll save you like 40 bucks that can go towards the next tier up on a GPU or maybe CPU. As shown in this video and many others like it, 32 gigs and DDR5 just aren't the upgrades you should go for on a budget build
Until 2 years ago I was kinda OKish with 12GB on my older PC, but windows the more Ram you throw usually the more usage you will have even if the game doesn't use anywhere near that "X" amount of memory with lower memory kit and even if it doesn't even use that lower memory kit at anywhere near 100%... I have seen someone crashing out of memory with 64 GB of ram so yeah, but wasn't your normal gaming scenario it's a known youtuber that exploits games and he managed to break a game out of memory when he blown almost the entire planet in a row on it and Task manager was reporting as the game eating all the entire ram LOL 🤣 ps: Any new PC go 32GB right away and if you have plenty money to waste and go for high end well, 64GB can even be your friend though it's likely better to save now for a 32GB cause later PC's can be on much better ram kits like 8000MT/s+ and your ram if it's like 6000MT/s you might be loosing a lot of CPU performance much later with like 16th gen intel and Ryzen 11K or whatever they are going to call them in case you are thinking to upgrade later...
I knew exactly what was going to happen even before watching the video. Running out of system memory is far more brutal than the vram boogie man everyone is so scared of. It's possible to overrun 8gb of vram by pushing settings too far, but you're almost certain to overrun 8gb of system memory when you have to account for many game assets that are never put into vram, not to mention the overhead that is your operating system, drivers, and any other resource eating background tasks. (I'm looking at you Chrome, you bloated PoS) When you overrun your vram, you have to fall back on much slower system memory, causing stutters. When you overrun system memory you fall back on _drastically_ slower hard drives, causing straight up pauses in gameplay. Even the latest, most expensive PCIE5 drives are only approaching early low end DDR4 speeds, which is why you do _not_ want to be accessing that hard drive outside of loading screens or at least well before you need to call on those assets in games that stream the loading as you move around the world. If you're still on 8gb in 2024 you _need_ to upgrade to at least 16gb and not just for gaming. I've seen Chrome eat up 20gb of memory on it's own and that's why I don't use Chrome. Even the Brave browser I'm typing this into is using 4.5gb and that's with only 3 tabs open. With how cheap memory is there's just no excuse to still be on 8gb.
Don't underestimate the brutality or running out of vram. There are people who actually died from running out of vram (I'm serious). Okay, they only died in Call of Duty... but virtual deaths are still serious because you get "t-bagged" after. 8GB gpu's should be banned worldwide.
A smaller amount of VRAM (as a comparison) would have been nice. Your video reflects my experience: 16Gb is still fine for budget Systems. Upgrade to 32 if you experience too much stutter while having okayish fps. If you're building a new System go for 32Gb or more - but keep in mind that timings and subtimings matter too. Sometimes it's better to go for faster RAM instead of more...
@@AncientGameplays Just for some people who want to see what happens on their system when upgrading just a part etc... You're fast xD - Good work as always!
I Just upgraded from 16gb to 32gb ram cause I play beamng with premiere pro running in background! Now it's very capable, from 16gb single channel to dual channel 32gb
@@AncientGameplays and thats the funny part but also kinda works itself out, lower VRAM normally means more RAM is used to hold the data but if you arent running at settings that will push the memory system you wont see the lower VRAM being the issue
if its a comp for just web, yt etc. 8gb is enough. if its a gaming machine 16gb is bare min if its a budget build but 32 is probably what you want to buy now.
Seeing on Games + Apps bars even 32GB sometimes scoring lower, I wonder if 64GB would help, if the time has come for it to make a difference (without trying hard to show it). Or these lower scores are thanks to some variability during measurements - it's mostly seen with not that much reliable 1% Lows which even few times surprisingly managed to show improvement with apps running.
I mean, now that RAM is cheaper i dont see why not going for 32GB, specially on DDR4 wich is really cheap rn, got a 3200Mhz cl16 32GB DDR4 Corsair Vengance kit last christmas for like 60€.
Tech Jesus, ive got 7900 xtx nitro plus today, scr*w Ngreedia, also couldn't wait for price drop, my electronics hardware shop is experiencing delay from supplier because its on cargo ships in middle east where war is happening and ships have to do a cycle across Africa And you know what else is shipping on those ships??? graphics cards too... So i am not risking experiencing another mining craze price increases. That possible 100eur price drop is not worth this risk.
I have 64GB because I installed Linux in Ram and store everything else on SDD, (games, programs, etc.) but I have the fastest OS possible. Games still have 32 GB ram of free space
I don't see how you can reccommend 32GB, when it's 1-2% performance. 32GB is about twice as expensive and, anyway, it's really money thrown down the drain, when you can use it to get a better CPU/GPU. Years later, IF 32GB becomes necessary, just throw in two more sticks (if you are on ATX). Spending more money up front is a fool's errand!
Dude, 32gb is like 100 bucks nowadays and more ram is never worse, never. Also, it will help with some games that can have a bit more stutters now, and the one to come in the future. I thought that was well explained...
If you play DCS it's very easy.....you need 64 Gigs!😂😢 If you can't you need 32 Gigs of RAM and a 32 GB Pagefile on your fastest SSD. Otherwise it is going to crash in complex multiplayer missions, like dynamic ones with hundreds of units.
Just got home from work and saw this video on my home page and was wondering if it was click bait. Then I saw "Ancient Gameplays" and immediately knew it was a must watch!
8gb are stuttering a lot these days.. and if you use to play for long time you need to restart your pc every 4 hours otherwise it will cause system instability and app crashs
dude off topic now xD but I have looked on your Ryzen CPU overclock video and had A Ryzen 7 5700g now clocked to 4.5Ghz at 1.32V and PBO off Core boost and c-state on and level 3 on those level thing :D and my PC seems kinda solid with this for now, but will 1.32v destroy my CPU in the long run? cuz you says 5000 series should never go over 1.3v
Is 2x8gb= 16gb still enough for today's games? My gpu is 4070 but I heard that nvidia GPUs( at least the current gen.) use less vram but more system ram which is the complete opposite of amd cards(more vram, less system ram).
i downgraded my RAM from 32GB to 16GB today to improve CL. I play at 4k with a TUF 4080 super with no apps running, so I think 32GB is probably not needed
I upgraded to 32gb from 16gb I lost the dual channel but did not lost any performance at all!! I guess because dual channel only matters for igpu not for a graphics card
Before watching let me guess that 16 is minimum and you technically can live with it, but 32 is a new standard and everyone who is building 1k$+ pc should buy 32 gigs. Hopefully I will be right, anyway I already bought 32gigs a year ago and not planning to go back 😅
@@AncientGameplayslooks like I was correct. I finally have a video I can send to a “16 gig is all you ever need” people 😅 good job, nice to see benchmarks with apps as you promised. (I was the one under community post to recommend realistic benchmarks, and then you corrected your post)
What about the differences in module latencies that we can find on the market, for example for 6000Mhz DDR5 SDRAM that you used in your tests, CL parameter of modules begins from 30 to 48 that I found for the mentioned frequency? Which modules are worth considering: is a single rank or double rank module a better choice? Thank you.
@@AncientGameplays So, is it better to get a pair of modules 6000mhz CL36, than 6000mhz CL30 ? I know that a single module alone is worse than two modules. And what about two different ranks' module: single rank and dual rank, which is better to get a kit of 2x16gb 6000mhz CL30? Is it much difference in gained performance to consider this choice between single or dual rank modules kit? Thank You.
Ram is so cheap these days, there's NO reason to NOT have enough...as a rule 32GB, me personally, 48GB every system... Those of us that have been in the industry for a while know and understand the value of ram in a system, and how not enough will hurt everything you're trying to do, back in the day, 32MB(Yes, megabytes) was over $1000, so to pay $250 for 32GB today is a small price to pay...
8gb is still fine for web browsing. I have an old laptop and the old i5 dual core maxes out at times, but the ram mostly stays under 6 gigs even with an old game, discord, a video stream, and 20 firefox tabs open at the same time, and still stays pretty snappy with a sata ssd.
I've seen prebuilt gaming machines with 8GB DDR4. That should be considered a crime. 16GB is still the sweet spot, and yes, 32GB is not such a painful investment, specially if you are on a DDR4 platform.
Straight up I upgraded from 16-32 half a year ago and i saw no difference for well anything it was negligible and just a week ago I gave half my RAM to a friend and well it's still negligible lol.
If it's up to myself to make the computer os i will make light but to have someone as Mach harder as possible. I don't understand why the need to run all this stuff in the background, i also don't see the point to have all those effect in window by default. The os it's just way to do very specific job files manager heaving software open and stuff like that I don't see any reason if someone use computer for basic task like navigate the internet for ms office and stuff like to need demanding computer just because the os is more demanding for what the need with not really reason.
the level of convivence 32gb of ram offers is worth it alone imagine having to worry about closing a webpage and turning off windows features to maximize memory usage to play a game its annoying and so many games have memory issues now because they are all "early access" the more ram the better
Did you know you can use electrical tape to return the dome on your speaker back to it's normal shape??? Just stick it there and pull it. It drives me crazy to see that deformed dome lol.
for Hogwarts u had those huge RAM allocations cause the game was unoptimized and still is cause a guy with a high end PC i mean best of the best on everything had stutters
cards nowadays that have only 8GB VRAM won't perform that well, and as seen, as the FPS output goes down, lower RAM capacities won't struggle as much. But yes, usually, the RAM will compensate if you're low on VRAM
I have 3060Ti and 16gb(2x8) DDR4 its not that bad only games where it explodes(14-15gb usage that sometimes lowers to 12-13 after some minutes for some reason) its Hogwart Legacy and Jedi Survivor both games to be know of very inefficient in terms of memory usage because devs decided to push as much of data as possible to limit traversal stutters instead use dynamic streaming.
I haven't built a new system since Feb 2014. A few questions for anyone who has time to answer: 1. Is it true that using more than two sticks of RAM (dual channel) causes problems now? I.e. starting with x amount of RAM and then adding another two sticks later to double the amount, as opposed to starting with two sticks with the doubled amount. 2. For DDR5, how important is latency for gaming? E.g. 28 CAS vs. 36 CAS. 3. What kind of performance increase does RGB provide? :/
What? Does that mean 16GB is no more dual ranked? So if I would upgrade on DDR5 I must buy 64GB of RAM then, even if I don't need so much, to have better performance? That sucks.
64 gig is the base line for gaming. Less than that, FPS lessons. Not much though. A few percentages. More important to recent games coming out and future games than old games.
@@AncientGameplays Not sure what you mean. Alan Wake 2 shows you need 64 gig of ram not to have ram reduce fps along with other recent graphic intense games. Like CPU hierarchy lists, A CPU is rated 100% and others have a percent less than for Performance has decreased from Baseline CPU that all others are measured up against. Alan Wake 2, Last of us etc... 64 Gig 0% loss, 32 gig and less is a neg -% in the decrease in FPS. In the past, timings for Ram was more important than Raw power now, Raw power is more important than timings. Things have changed. Gaming is a 4k platform now. 4k for Consoles and PC aiming to 8k. However, Nvidia is trying to go from low rez and increase to 4k and higher to keep tech costs, heat, electricity cost down for people. Straight 8k is tons of power needed etc.... from 4k to 8k or 1440 to 8k fraction of the cost etc..... is needed.
@@truthseeker6532 Alan Wake doesn't show anything even close to that, don't know where you saw that or who told you that, but don't be fooled (nor a fool). Also, more GB is not "raw power" is capacity. The only game that will consume anything close to 25GB (and is only allocated) is Hogwarts legacy, and the less VRAM you have, the more RAM the system uses to compensate.
@@AncientGameplays I mentioned Raw power not capacity. *ALSO, consuming RAM is not necessarily why you need that amount. Consuming is one part of Ram which, was back in the day matter and why I said what I said, on Ram Raw power part. For you seem to be a person that holds onto old ways not knowing they are gone in some areas and are being removed in others. And yes, Alan Wake 2 did show 64 gig is needed (Not account of usage. Ram has sprouted out other matters than what was in the past on various reasons = Micro stutters as one of them) and well as other recent heavy Graphic games to not have FPS drop due to less Ram. I can tell, you are not 40 years old or older just a young kid. Word of mouth than, by research is a big Seperator from old and young people. You most likely have not built over 100 PC's like I have. Do more research than you have which, is probably in minutes than, hours or days on games like Alan Wake 2 needing 64 Gig of ram if you do not want to lose FPS. Also, read the Bible and tell me Who/What God is. (Hint: Found in The Book of John). Let's see if you can understand what you read. If you cannot than, not knowing 64 gigs would be over your head = For you have a hard time understanding what you read such as my Raw power part. What I had, was filling you in on info that is up to date that is occurring that goes against what use to be and yet, you did not realize it and thus = You do not understand what you read....For that part = Your Lack of Knowledge. Next, The King (Top Most Leader) and High Priest (Top Most Teacher) of Salem was Jesus. Who was it that told us this and how? (Hint: By name was not used) [This will be more of a challenge than my previous Bible Question].
seems 32 is the new 16😁 Personally ran out of with 8GB ram about 6 years ago, but I guess it can still function as showed in some scenarios. But IMO 16GB is bare minimum these days
I'm upgrading my 2017 HP Omen 17 an0xx. Thankfully it has an NVME slot, so I'm adding 500gb of storage to run progz off that. It's got 12gb RAM and I'm trying to decide between 16gb and 32gb.
8gb wasn''t bad, but taking my 16gb and going 32gb for my upgrade. Does the Windows experience change significantly meaning NOTICABLE or just enough to feel it? Hope that made sense. LOL Great video Bro.
I would stay on 16 unless you are upgrading for a faster kit which your CPU and/or GPU can take full advantage of. There was a period for DDR5 where it was a legitimate choice to go 16 due to the price difference, and there is still no need to upgrade from that capacity unless you are doing professional work or serious power user stuff, but now it just makes sense for all new builders to go 32 due to good $100 kits being available. I don't even know when I will ever need to upgrade my 2x8 5600 kit since I tend to like mid range GPUs for their lower heat output and I doubt I will buy a GPU that can fully push my existing kit within the next five years. I bought AM5 thinking I will upgrade my CPU one day but my 7600 can push a 4090 just fine so maybe not until the very end of the AM5 life cycle.
I have two 16 gb sticks of DDR 5, but in cpu-z it only shows up as 2 x 32 bit, not 4 x 32 bit (looking at the video at the 2.33 mark) My memory is Corsair Vengeance DDR 5 4800 mhz, CL 40 32 GB kit. And all 32 gigabytes of ram are detected by cpu-z.
There is a lack of strategy games where it is more about RAM and CPU, less about GPU. In Civilization 6, turn speed increases when 4 memory banks are occupied instead of 2, even when the amount of RAM is the same. Is it worth having a lot of RAM? Check out Civilization and Hearts of Iron.I have 32 GB and in strategies it is worth having a lot of RAM, even more than a better GPU
Programmer; can they pack and unpack efficiently? . do they know how to use the stencil buffer as an athlete would instead of a blue haired LAND WHALES NEEDING ALL THE RAm as a platform for incompetence? In 2024 it is not he hardware that is the gate keeper
Does 32GB DDR5 work with a 8GB DDR5 soldered in the motherboard on a ASUS - 15.6" OLED Laptop - Intel Core i9-13900H - NVIDIA RTX3050 6GB with 16GB Memory - 1TB SSD - Black Model:Q540VJ-I93050 SKU:6534578? Please advise!
The difference between 16 and 32gb is not worth mentioning unless you have other apps opened while gaming, even then it's not that big...so unless you have money to spare, just stick to 16gb
When I seen how much RAM games like Last of Us, or Hogwarts legacy were consuming, I went like, "f it", and bought two more 16 gig sticks of RAM, on top of the other two 16 gig sticks(32 gigs) I had, getting 64 gigs(16x4) in total.
@@AncientGameplays I bought my laptop online and there's a warranty sticker on top of one of the screws so I can't open it and it's a hassle to go to the service center to do an upgrade.
@@AncientGameplays they do it wrongly - they put the lets say code of the some game all in one place and they updated it to be eaven bigger and bigger wich then puts more and more CPU and GPU stress staff on the PC but if they separete the thing to load lets say only a part of the code atm then we all can pass with less RAM and stress - full load destroys games and hardware (and you are only on tiny portion of the game in game??? At that time)🤔 makes you wonder and think why your overlay shows like 9578 GB v-ram usage out of 10 GB total and half settings to turn that down are made???? Area load?? Is small but true load is the full game and code - makes your PC want to break it self from reqiuerd computing??
I have 32 gigs of ram and have exceded 16gigs of ram with a few games in 4k. I have hit 9.5 gigs of ram just being on my desktop and being signed into 4 launchers. Steam can use up to 2 gigs of ram by itself. Steam has the most features, so it has the most bloat. MS flight sim has gone as high as 21 gigs for me.
finally a video that helps me understand why you shouldnt have 4 sticks of ram for ddr5 because you are limited to 128 bit on most cpu and 2 ddr5 already reaches the cpu limit.
@@AncientGameplays yes, but i have no idea why, since a vr headset costs 300 bucks today, and its an incomparable experience to playing on a small screen. And ignoring it certainly wont help
Wil you be testing full ranks (4 sticks dual sided) or density (2x16GB using 16Gb vs 32Gb ic's)? With DDR4 chip density was a performance killer without enough ranks, but since DDR5 is "dual channel" per device maybe the density doesnt affect performance the same. EDIT - Some of your differences could have been command rate not being locked down properly.
Did you think 8GB would be performing as they did?
nope
Depends on the m.2 SSD, lets see how 8GB RAM work with a 5200rpm hard drive :D
Having more vram can compensate for having less system RAM. Hardware unboxed did a very interesting video on this topic many years ago now. They tested (if I remember correctly) the 4GB and 8GB versions of the 570 and 580, and also the 3 and 6GB versions of the 1060, in a test system with both 8 and 16GB configurations.
Some games which didn't really need more than 4GB of vram for good performance when there was 16GB of system RAM would see performance fall off a cliff when using a system with only 8GB of system RAM, but 6 or 8GB versions of these graphics cards would typically see the performance go back to a good level, even with only 8GB of system RAM. These systems were still using two sticks, with dual channel mode, even in the 8GB configurations (it was DDR4).
I don't know what the limitations of this would be, as I am anything but an expert on how a game will make use of system RAM and vram, and some games or game engines may be better than others in terms of how they can make use of more vram in a situtation with not a lot of system RAM.
I dont think so
No I do not think so.
16gb ddr4 3200Mhz 16-18-18-18-36cl corsair vengane is used to my 5800X3D but in few games I noticed ram memmory not enough qnd usage was 15gb with all backgrounds when playing and I put in some old almost unused hyperx fury 2666Mhz 15cl and my voltage at 1.38 and Mhz at 3200, works pretty good and stable for mixing ram memmory XD
Time to download some ram i guess
YEAH haha
Ram page file 🗃️ 😂
Is there a tutorial on that? Please help me
@@Wickery. Search how to increase ram page file, but it just increases the amount of storage used as virtual ram, so unless you have like 4g or 8g of ram you may see a small improvement
You technically can. You just need a AMD Strix Halo APU to do it 😏
Long story short. If you have 16, no need to panic yet. If you building new, then buy 32. If you have 8, press F
F
hehe, exactly
Press F and download more ram
F, but buying another 8GB for GTX 1050 4GB + i5 7300HQ laptop is totally idiotic idea.
@@adamadamx5464 Eh not that diotic if you get it for cheap. Recently got a 2x8gb Kit for my backup rig (i7 3770 and gtx 750ti ) as it was only 12€ to replace the 2x4 kit (only 2 dimm slots)
Given current pricing, there's not much reason to not get 32GB. Even if you're on a tight budget, you can probably manage to have at least 16GB. Upgrading an old DDR4 based system from 8GB to 16GB will likely make a big difference in some games.
exactly as stated in the conclusion
I had to upgrade to 32gb ddr4 due to FH5 kept giving me memory warnings while i had Firefox UA-cam commentaries running
I wish. In my coutry, 5 year old tech is being sold on the price when they come out. It's hard to find a decent DDR4 kit that costs less than 100€.
@@exlibrisasWhich country is that
Ram is only 40 bucks for 16gb used ddr4 i just bought 2 sticks yesterday comes in 4 days
Great video. Surely Ram is more affordable now. Alot of people who look at 16GB VS 32GB, are only paying attention to the frame rate. For me... the entire system feels better with 32GB ram. The fact that I can have chrome with 10 tabs and play my game ... alt tab ... check stuff.. back into game.. and everything feels fine is comforting to me.
exactly what I talked about in the conclusion as well
How is that even possible? I have 16GB RAM, I can have Firefox open with like 50 tabs and a second Firefox (a fork of it) with like 10 tabs while I have a game running and dont even have 10GB RAM usage. But ok, I dont use Windows tho. But I doubt that Windows is THAT bad in RAM management?
Same for me! 32 Go RAM is my starting point. My build has 32 Go RAM and i wont go back to 16.
I strongly suggest to upgrade to at least 32GB, especially for DDR4. Sold my 16GB kit for 40 Euro and bought brand new 32GB kit for 70 Euro. Dirt cheap!!
yup nobody should be going with 16GB of ram in 2024. Base is now 32GB, I've been there for 4 years already.
maniacs are shaking and sweating of not seeing 64 OR 128 GB.
Hahaha
As you mentioned, Dual channel (1/3 or 2/4 slots, depending at mobo. Never use 1/2 or 3/4) if identical memory kits too, does a massive difference. I remember back at Battlefield 1 days. Me and a fiend of mine, we had exactly same systems. Cpu, gpu, expect memories. He had 32 Gb 1 stick, and i had also 32Gb but 16+16 as dual channel. In game he had 50 to 60 frames, while i had 70 to 100. Excellent video once again Fabio :-)
exactly, because Channel A2, B2 and A1, B1 haha
AM2 boards have Dual Channel in 1-2 or 3-4. So, it depends on generations.
What a coincidence, I ordered 32GB DDR4 Vengance RT kit today, and you drop this video today, and by the looks of it, I made the right decision to upgrade the ram :D
have a 2x16 and 2 dummy sticks of vengance pro RGB, 32 is the sweet spot.
One thing I noticed going from 2x8 to 2x16 was that things felt way more stable, I've had 1 drive timeout after months, where I would have them almost weekly, even trying all the fixes.
Activating SAM really helped as well on stability with more RAM.
That's ram instability, nothing to do with capacity. But great 💪
Got to agree, even though don't do anything too intensive feel computer more responsive jumping from 16gb to 32gb.
Great to know for Budget gamers that 16GB is still good.
Really wanted to see 12 game average with apps open since that was the main reason I upgraded to 32gb. Without apps open the difference between 16gb and 32gb is 2%, but with apps open I would guess for some games it could be more than 10% difference between 32gb and 16gb.
the difference would be maybe 7% at most. Didn't put it there are the 8GB stick would have crazy low results
Avatar is out already?? I missed that.
Just checked and it's not cracked yet so it was never released for me lol.
Lol
32GB of memory is so cheap nowadays that it's probably the best option to go for, unless you're on a budget.
But when it comes to gaming, I wouldn't get 32GB with the aim of more performance, that might be the case in the coming years as games use more memory, but for now I would buy it simply to have more memory to play with, it's also great having more memory when playing with A.I. through the cpu and honestly, with how cheap memory is, my next upgrade is likely going to be 64GB.
How about comparing 4x8 Gb vs 2 x 16 Gb, any difference?
negligible!
Made sure I used 2 sticks of DDR 4 Duel rank about 3 years ago when I upgraded from 3rd Gen i7 to AMD 5800
I'd still tell someone building a pc on a budget aim for DDR4 16gb. It'll save you like 40 bucks that can go towards the next tier up on a GPU or maybe CPU. As shown in this video and many others like it, 32 gigs and DDR5 just aren't the upgrades you should go for on a budget build
yes, if going ddr4, 16GB would be it (on a tight budget)
The Yoga teacher from GTA 5 was modeled after this guy.
😂😂
2024? Answer: 32gb 6000mhz! but depend on EXPO and XMP
unless on a REALLY tight budget? For sure!
6000mhz RAM doesn't exist.
@@mikehawk6918 the ram is still called 32gb 6000 cl30 even if it’s halved
@@mikehawk6918 😆
Until 2 years ago I was kinda OKish with 12GB on my older PC, but windows the more Ram you throw usually the more usage you will have even if the game doesn't use anywhere near that "X" amount of memory with lower memory kit and even if it doesn't even use that lower memory kit at anywhere near 100%...
I have seen someone crashing out of memory with 64 GB of ram so yeah, but wasn't your normal gaming scenario it's a known youtuber that exploits games and he managed to break a game out of memory when he blown almost the entire planet in a row on it and Task manager was reporting as the game eating all the entire ram LOL 🤣
ps: Any new PC go 32GB right away and if you have plenty money to waste and go for high end well, 64GB can even be your friend though it's likely better to save now for a 32GB cause later PC's can be on much better ram kits like 8000MT/s+ and your ram if it's like 6000MT/s you might be loosing a lot of CPU performance much later with like 16th gen intel and Ryzen 11K or whatever they are going to call them in case you are thinking to upgrade later...
I knew exactly what was going to happen even before watching the video. Running out of system memory is far more brutal than the vram boogie man everyone is so scared of. It's possible to overrun 8gb of vram by pushing settings too far, but you're almost certain to overrun 8gb of system memory when you have to account for many game assets that are never put into vram, not to mention the overhead that is your operating system, drivers, and any other resource eating background tasks. (I'm looking at you Chrome, you bloated PoS)
When you overrun your vram, you have to fall back on much slower system memory, causing stutters. When you overrun system memory you fall back on _drastically_ slower hard drives, causing straight up pauses in gameplay.
Even the latest, most expensive PCIE5 drives are only approaching early low end DDR4 speeds, which is why you do _not_ want to be accessing that hard drive outside of loading screens or at least well before you need to call on those assets in games that stream the loading as you move around the world.
If you're still on 8gb in 2024 you _need_ to upgrade to at least 16gb and not just for gaming. I've seen Chrome eat up 20gb of memory on it's own and that's why I don't use Chrome. Even the Brave browser I'm typing this into is using 4.5gb and that's with only 3 tabs open. With how cheap memory is there's just no excuse to still be on 8gb.
Don't underestimate the brutality or running out of vram. There are people who actually died from running out of vram (I'm serious).
Okay, they only died in Call of Duty... but virtual deaths are still serious because you get "t-bagged" after. 8GB gpu's should be banned worldwide.
A smaller amount of VRAM (as a comparison) would have been nice. Your video reflects my experience: 16Gb is still fine for budget Systems. Upgrade to 32 if you experience too much stutter while having okayish fps.
If you're building a new System go for 32Gb or more - but keep in mind that timings and subtimings matter too. Sometimes it's better to go for faster RAM instead of more...
yes, but as shown, the lower the amount of FPS output, the less the ram matters, and the 8GB GPUs aren't really capable of pushing high fps values
@@AncientGameplays Just for some people who want to see what happens on their system when upgrading just a part etc...
You're fast xD - Good work as always!
I Just upgraded from 16gb to 32gb ram cause I play beamng with premiere pro running in background! Now it's very capable, from 16gb single channel to dual channel 32gb
@@RohanSanjith Good choice, dual channel helps with perfomance and the add. 16Gb with less pagefile usage.
@@AncientGameplays and thats the funny part but also kinda works itself out,
lower VRAM normally means more RAM is used to hold the data but if you arent running at settings that will push the memory system you wont see the lower VRAM being the issue
still using 16gb but its still ok, opening a lot of program while gaming still manage to get 140fps to 120
if its a comp for just web, yt etc. 8gb is enough. if its a gaming machine 16gb is bare min if its a budget build but 32 is probably what you want to buy now.
Getting more HUGS fixed my issues.
Seeing on Games + Apps bars even 32GB sometimes scoring lower, I wonder if 64GB would help, if the time has come for it to make a difference (without trying hard to show it). Or these lower scores are thanks to some variability during measurements - it's mostly seen with not that much reliable 1% Lows which even few times surprisingly managed to show improvement with apps running.
I believe those are inside the margin of error most times
I mean, now that RAM is cheaper i dont see why not going for 32GB, specially on DDR4 wich is really cheap rn, got a 3200Mhz cl16 32GB DDR4 Corsair Vengance kit last christmas for like 60€.
Agreed, as stated in the conclusion
8 is the minimum to do web browsing these days so aim to 16 gbs and dont worry
True
Tech Jesus, ive got 7900 xtx nitro plus today, scr*w Ngreedia, also couldn't wait for price drop, my electronics hardware shop is experiencing delay from supplier because its on cargo ships in middle east where war is happening and ships have to do a cycle across Africa And you know what else is shipping on those ships??? graphics cards too... So i am not risking experiencing another mining craze price increases. That possible 100eur price drop is not worth this risk.
you did well, you got the best model!
Thank you for the video. I'm going for 32GB for my new build.
I have 64GB because I installed Linux in Ram and store everything else on SDD, (games, programs, etc.) but I have the fastest OS possible. Games still have 32 GB ram of free space
RAM disks are interesting as well haha
Been running 64GB since 2020, for my daily but I don't just game on this PC
so what you're saying is that I need 128 GB of DDR 6X ultra? 🤔
I don't see how you can reccommend 32GB, when it's 1-2% performance. 32GB is about twice as expensive and, anyway, it's really money thrown down the drain, when you can use it to get a better CPU/GPU.
Years later, IF 32GB becomes necessary, just throw in two more sticks (if you are on ATX). Spending more money up front is a fool's errand!
Dude, 32gb is like 100 bucks nowadays and more ram is never worse, never. Also, it will help with some games that can have a bit more stutters now, and the one to come in the future. I thought that was well explained...
If you play DCS it's very easy.....you need 64 Gigs!😂😢
If you can't you need 32 Gigs of RAM and a 32 GB Pagefile on your fastest SSD.
Otherwise it is going to crash in complex multiplayer missions, like dynamic ones with hundreds of units.
Dcs?
If wanting to achieve optimal performance, 2 sticks is better than 4 or there is negliable difference? Such as 5% worse would be fine.
The things is 2 stick can usually overclock better as they don't stress the IMC as much
my buddy has been having an absolute unplayable experience and i figured it was probably 8gb of ram being the culprit.
Most likely
The lower resolution you play in, the more RAM memory matters.
I have 32 GB of RAM right now and i’m fine
Ram capacity has nothing to do with resolution lol, that's vram. You're confusion capacity with frequency
Huh, so you're saying I should upgrade to 128GB DDR4. grin
Just got home from work and saw this video on my home page and was wondering if it was click bait.
Then I saw "Ancient Gameplays" and immediately knew it was a must watch!
Never clickbait here, only true and factual results hehe
Would you ever consider adding baldur's gate 3 to your testing suite? It's fairly demanding and quite popular right now. Thanks!
Only for the cpu tests maybe
8gb are stuttering a lot these days.. and if you use to play for long time you need to restart your pc every 4 hours otherwise it will cause system instability and app crashs
the system will keep refreshing the ram when possibly though, there's not such thing as a time limit
dude off topic now xD
but I have looked on your Ryzen CPU overclock video and had A Ryzen 7 5700g now clocked to 4.5Ghz at 1.32V and PBO off Core boost and c-state on and level 3 on those level thing :D
and my PC seems kinda solid with this for now, but will 1.32v destroy my CPU in the long run? cuz you says 5000 series should never go over 1.3v
1.32v is a bit much in my opinion, BUT, I might be wrong as there are no official data on what voltage/current harms those CPUs
@@AncientGameplays Okey thanks for answer mate :)
well it's a CPU with APU so maybe a bit more voltage is okey normaly the voltage was 1.344v
Is 2x8gb= 16gb still enough for today's games?
My gpu is 4070 but I heard that nvidia GPUs( at least the current gen.) use less vram but more system ram which is the complete opposite of amd cards(more vram, less system ram).
Watch the video...
i downgraded my RAM from 32GB to 16GB today to improve CL. I play at 4k with a TUF 4080 super with no apps running, so I think 32GB is probably not needed
I upgraded to 32gb from 16gb
I lost the dual channel but did not lost any performance at all!!
I guess because dual channel only matters for igpu not for a graphics card
How can you lose dual channel, and no, dual channel matters quite a lot for anything cpu heavy
@AncientGameplays I'm playing at 1440p and only single player games so it's all gpu heavy gaming
my decision was between keeping 48gbs with tighter timing at 3000mhz or cutting down to 32gbs at 3600mhz. i ended up going with the latter for now.
Capacity > MHz.
Still on AM4/DDR4 and 16GB and clearly, I don't need more.
Very interesting video.
In Fabio we trust!
About the stutter.
Try ChimeraOS.
Also, turn TPM off in BIOS for Windows test.
no thanks.
Before watching let me guess that 16 is minimum and you technically can live with it, but 32 is a new standard and everyone who is building 1k$+ pc should buy 32 gigs. Hopefully I will be right, anyway I already bought 32gigs a year ago and not planning to go back 😅
will wait for you haha
@@AncientGameplayslooks like I was correct. I finally have a video I can send to a “16 gig is all you ever need” people 😅 good job, nice to see benchmarks with apps as you promised. (I was the one under community post to recommend realistic benchmarks, and then you corrected your post)
What about the differences in module latencies that we can find on the market, for example for 6000Mhz DDR5 SDRAM that you used in your tests, CL parameter of modules begins from 30 to 48 that I found for the mentioned frequency? Which modules are worth considering: is a single rank or double rank module a better choice? Thank you.
the thing is that CL alone means nothing. You're much better with a CL38 kit with improved subtimings than with an EXPO CL30
@@AncientGameplays So, is it better to get a pair of modules 6000mhz CL36, than 6000mhz CL30 ? I know that a single module alone is worse than two modules. And what about two different ranks' module: single rank and dual rank, which is better to get a kit of 2x16gb 6000mhz CL30? Is it much difference in gained performance to consider this choice between single or dual rank modules kit? Thank You.
@@piotrgott02024 uh, no. Only if the price difference is big
Ram is so cheap these days, there's NO reason to NOT have enough...as a rule 32GB, me personally, 48GB every system...
Those of us that have been in the industry for a while know and understand the value of ram in a system, and how not enough will hurt everything you're trying to do, back in the day, 32MB(Yes, megabytes) was over $1000, so to pay $250 for 32GB today is a small price to pay...
You should test KSP1 with mods. With all the mods I have installed it's 20GB of RAM just to start the game, lol.
KSP1? never heard of that
@@AncientGameplays kerbal space program
I just said screw it. Bought 3 Rtx 4090s. I hope to get at least 50-60 fps @ 1080p
lol
8gb is still fine for web browsing. I have an old laptop and the old i5 dual core maxes out at times, but the ram mostly stays under 6 gigs even with an old game, discord, a video stream, and 20 firefox tabs open at the same time, and still stays pretty snappy with a sata ssd.
Also consider VRAM, if you GPU have
Obviously, but even low tier gpus have 8gb vram nowadays
i have 2x16gb ddr5 buth my cpu-z shows 2x32bit not 4x32bit why?
because you're running them in single channel most likely... you need to put them in the slot 2 and 4
they are in slot 2 and 4 and i used Buildzoid memory timings @@AncientGameplays
cpu-z shows they are in 2 and 4 slot and i use buldzoid timing @@AncientGameplays
I figured out is newer cpu-z shows like this buth hardwareinfo64 shows dual chanel sory for trubels @@AncientGameplays
I've seen prebuilt gaming machines with 8GB DDR4. That should be considered a crime. 16GB is still the sweet spot, and yes, 32GB is not such a painful investment, specially if you are on a DDR4 platform.
Straight up I upgraded from 16-32 half a year ago and i saw no difference for well anything it was negligible and just a week ago I gave half my RAM to a friend and well it's still negligible lol.
just bought 16gb today comes in 4 days so it will add to the 8 i had for 2 years i get stutters in mutiple games running 4k native high
I think 24GB is perfectly enough for AAA gaming in the next 5 years.
that's async dual channel, which is not optimal
If it's up to myself to make the computer os i will make light but to have someone as Mach harder as possible.
I don't understand why the need to run all this stuff in the background,
i also don't see the point to have all those effect in window by default.
The os it's just way to do very specific job files manager heaving software open and stuff like that
I don't see any reason if someone use computer for basic task like navigate the internet for ms office and stuff like to need demanding computer just because the os is more demanding for what the need with not really reason.
the level of convivence 32gb of ram offers is worth it alone imagine having to worry about closing a webpage and turning off windows features to maximize memory usage to play a game its annoying and so many games have memory issues now because they are all "early access" the more ram the better
Did you know you can use electrical tape to return the dome on your speaker back to it's normal shape??? Just stick it there and pull it.
It drives me crazy to see that deformed dome lol.
8gb shouldn’t even be considered. 16gb minimum, 32gb recommended.
8gb was in the name of science
for Hogwarts u had those huge RAM allocations cause the game was unoptimized and still is cause a guy with a high end PC i mean best of the best on everything had stutters
16gb is fine assuming you dont have an entire multimedia program running alongside your game. My pc is strictly for games
Hey Fabio, how about 64GB?? lol I have my 64GB (16GBx4) 3600 DDR4 with my 5800X3D
after 32GB there are no benefits for gaming mostly.
@@AncientGameplays I know good sir, I was poking fun. Love your content, keep up the good work!
Do this with a card that has 8gb of vram. The memory usage should balloon
cards nowadays that have only 8GB VRAM won't perform that well, and as seen, as the FPS output goes down, lower RAM capacities won't struggle as much. But yes, usually, the RAM will compensate if you're low on VRAM
@@AncientGameplaysiria ser legal um teste desse hein, testar se com gpus de 8gb vram, se mais memória ram teria diferença
I have 3060Ti and 16gb(2x8) DDR4 its not that bad only games where it explodes(14-15gb usage that sometimes lowers to 12-13 after some minutes for some reason) its Hogwart Legacy and Jedi Survivor both games to be know of very inefficient in terms of memory usage because devs decided to push as much of data as possible to limit traversal stutters instead use dynamic streaming.
16GB enjoyer 😎
I haven't built a new system since Feb 2014. A few questions for anyone who has time to answer:
1. Is it true that using more than two sticks of RAM (dual channel) causes problems now? I.e. starting with x amount of RAM and then adding another two sticks later to double the amount, as opposed to starting with two sticks with the doubled amount.
2. For DDR5, how important is latency for gaming? E.g. 28 CAS vs. 36 CAS.
3. What kind of performance increase does RGB provide? :/
What? Does that mean 16GB is no more dual ranked? So if I would upgrade on DDR5 I must buy 64GB of RAM then, even if I don't need so much, to have better performance? That sucks.
single and dual rank don't matter much as it did with ddr4 as shown. There can be some dual rank 16GB sticks though
@@AncientGameplays I guess then I was lucky to get 2x16GB Dual Ranked Sticks. I upgraded my RAM recently from 4x8 3600 CL16 to 2x16GB 3600 CL14.
64 gig is the base line for gaming.
Less than that, FPS lessons. Not much though.
A few percentages. More important to recent games coming out and future games than old games.
Looooooooooooooooooool
@@AncientGameplays
Not sure what you mean.
Alan Wake 2 shows you need 64 gig of ram not to have ram reduce fps along with other recent graphic intense games.
Like CPU hierarchy lists, A CPU is rated 100% and others have a percent less than for Performance has decreased from Baseline CPU that all others are measured up against.
Alan Wake 2, Last of us etc... 64 Gig 0% loss, 32 gig and less is a neg -% in the decrease in FPS.
In the past, timings for Ram was more important than Raw power now, Raw power is more important than timings.
Things have changed. Gaming is a 4k platform now. 4k for Consoles and PC aiming to 8k.
However, Nvidia is trying to go from low rez and increase to 4k and higher to keep tech costs, heat, electricity cost down for people. Straight 8k is tons of power needed etc.... from 4k to 8k or 1440 to 8k fraction of the cost etc..... is needed.
@@truthseeker6532 Alan Wake doesn't show anything even close to that, don't know where you saw that or who told you that, but don't be fooled (nor a fool).
Also, more GB is not "raw power" is capacity.
The only game that will consume anything close to 25GB (and is only allocated) is Hogwarts legacy, and the less VRAM you have, the more RAM the system uses to compensate.
@@AncientGameplays
I mentioned Raw power not capacity.
*ALSO, consuming RAM is not necessarily why you need that amount. Consuming is one part of Ram which, was back in the day matter and why I said what I said, on Ram Raw power part. For you seem to be a person that holds onto old ways not knowing they are gone in some areas and are being removed in others.
And yes, Alan Wake 2 did show 64 gig is needed (Not account of usage. Ram has sprouted out other matters than what was in the past on various reasons = Micro stutters as one of them) and well as other recent heavy Graphic games to not have FPS drop due to less Ram.
I can tell, you are not 40 years old or older just a young kid. Word of mouth than, by research is a big Seperator from old and young people.
You most likely have not built over 100 PC's like I have.
Do more research than you have which, is probably in minutes than, hours or days on games like Alan Wake 2 needing 64 Gig of ram if you do not want to lose FPS.
Also, read the Bible and tell me Who/What God is. (Hint: Found in The Book of John). Let's see if you can understand what you read. If you cannot than, not knowing 64 gigs would be over your head = For you have a hard time understanding what you read such as my Raw power part. What I had, was filling you in on info that is up to date that is occurring that goes against what use to be and yet, you did not realize it and thus = You do not understand what you read....For that part = Your Lack of Knowledge.
Next, The King (Top Most Leader) and High Priest (Top Most Teacher) of Salem was Jesus. Who was it that told us this and how? (Hint: By name was not used) [This will be more of a challenge than my previous Bible Question].
I have 128GB RAM, not because I need it. But because RAM is super cheap nowadays
just because a pen is cheap doesn't mean you need to have 300 at home
Spoiled kid 💀 128 GB is overkill for almost anything. It's like buying condoms without having a girlfriend.
seems 32 is the new 16😁
Personally ran out of with 8GB ram about 6 years ago, but I guess it can still function as showed in some scenarios. But IMO 16GB is bare minimum these days
agreed
I'm upgrading my 2017 HP Omen 17 an0xx. Thankfully it has an NVME slot, so I'm adding 500gb of storage to run progz off that. It's got 12gb RAM and I'm trying to decide between 16gb and 32gb.
32gb would be better of course, especially for latops
16GB is only for light tasks, when u play a game and have some tabs open in chrome u will hit 20GB+ easy
Depends, as shown
@@AncientGameplays yeah but thats not a realistic usecase who is playing game with nothing else opened?
@@TraudiRex400 have you actually watched the video? 🤷♂️
16GB is still good, but if you build new go 32GB.
agreed for sure
I had 16gb , and bought 16gb...it's a big difference !
You had something wrong there then...
8gb wasn''t bad, but taking my 16gb and going 32gb for my upgrade. Does the Windows experience change significantly meaning NOTICABLE or just enough to feel it? Hope that made sense. LOL Great video Bro.
I would stay on 16 unless you are upgrading for a faster kit which your CPU and/or GPU can take full advantage of. There was a period for DDR5 where it was a legitimate choice to go 16 due to the price difference, and there is still no need to upgrade from that capacity unless you are doing professional work or serious power user stuff, but now it just makes sense for all new builders to go 32 due to good $100 kits being available.
I don't even know when I will ever need to upgrade my 2x8 5600 kit since I tend to like mid range GPUs for their lower heat output and I doubt I will buy a GPU that can fully push my existing kit within the next five years. I bought AM5 thinking I will upgrade my CPU one day but my 7600 can push a 4090 just fine so maybe not until the very end of the AM5 life cycle.
What game is in the thumbnail?
its just an art
I have two 16 gb sticks of DDR 5, but in cpu-z it only shows up as 2 x 32 bit, not 4 x 32 bit (looking at the video at the 2.33 mark) My memory is Corsair Vengeance DDR 5 4800 mhz, CL 40 32 GB kit. And all 32 gigabytes of ram are detected by cpu-z.
I have 64 GB already 🤷🏻♂️
Cool
There is a lack of strategy games where it is more about RAM and CPU, less about GPU. In Civilization 6, turn speed increases when 4 memory banks are occupied instead of 2, even when the amount of RAM is the same. Is it worth having a lot of RAM? Check out Civilization and Hearts of Iron.I have 32 GB and in strategies it is worth having a lot of RAM, even more than a better GPU
Programmer; can they pack and unpack efficiently? . do they know how to use the stencil buffer as an athlete would instead of a blue haired LAND WHALES NEEDING ALL THE RAm as a platform for incompetence? In 2024 it is not he hardware that is the gate keeper
Does 32GB DDR5 work with a 8GB DDR5 soldered in the motherboard on a ASUS - 15.6" OLED Laptop - Intel Core i9-13900H - NVIDIA RTX3050 6GB with 16GB Memory - 1TB SSD - Black
Model:Q540VJ-I93050 SKU:6534578? Please advise!
Yes, but asynchronous dual channel I believe
would be cool to see these same tests with the new AMD APUs
Already finishing the 40 games on the 8700g, more test will come for sure
The difference between 16 and 32gb is not worth mentioning unless you have other apps opened while gaming, even then it's not that big...so unless you have money to spare, just stick to 16gb
When I seen how much RAM games like Last of Us, or Hogwarts legacy were consuming, I went like, "f it", and bought two more 16 gig sticks of RAM, on top of the other two 16 gig sticks(32 gigs) I had, getting 64 gigs(16x4) in total.
one stick dual rank 16GB vs 2 x 8 GB... Please 🙏
Will come
It's very simple. 32 GB. Period. I have even 64GB DDRAM5.
16gb is good for now for me as I only open the game and make sure mother tabs are open to help utilize the ram for my gaming experience only 🙏
Thanks for this video. I can stay with 1x8GB DDR5 for now.
yeah, it isn't THAT BAD, but shouldn't be a thing for anyone nowadays
@@AncientGameplays I bought my laptop online and there's a warranty sticker on top of one of the screws so I can't open it and it's a hassle to go to the service center to do an upgrade.
We all do not need more RAM we all need code that uses less RAM on new staff 😮
Lol
@@AncientGameplays they do it wrongly - they put the lets say code of the some game all in one place and they updated it to be eaven bigger and bigger wich then puts more and more CPU and GPU stress staff on the PC but if they separete the thing to load lets say only a part of the code atm then we all can pass with less RAM and stress - full load destroys games and hardware (and you are only on tiny portion of the game in game??? At that time)🤔 makes you wonder and think why your overlay shows like 9578 GB v-ram usage out of 10 GB total and half settings to turn that down are made???? Area load?? Is small but true load is the full game and code - makes your PC want to break it self from reqiuerd computing??
I have 32 gigs of ram and have exceded 16gigs of ram with a few games in 4k. I have hit 9.5 gigs of ram just being on my desktop and being signed into 4 launchers. Steam can use up to 2 gigs of ram by itself. Steam has the most features, so it has the most bloat. MS flight sim has gone as high as 21 gigs for me.
Excellent breakdown. Love your videos. P.S. If this were a Mac, it would perform better with only 4 GB than the PC with 32 GB! (LOL)
Thank you, and maybe, maybe not haha
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finally a video that helps me understand why you shouldnt have 4 sticks of ram for ddr5 because you are limited to 128 bit on most cpu and 2 ddr5 already reaches the cpu limit.
4 sticks will give you dual ranks though, which can help in some scenarios :D
Great, now some VR game benchmarks? There is none of that on youtube
That's because not many people care about VR...
@@AncientGameplays yes, but i have no idea why, since a vr headset costs 300 bucks today, and its an incomparable experience to playing on a small screen. And ignoring it certainly wont help
is buying 2x16gb for my laptop does give any gaming advantage for me? i'm using 1x16gb right now.
Yes, especially on laptops it does
@@AncientGameplaysthank you. cuz i'm playing warzone 3. and i saw the video. it doest change that much.
@@blindman8093 might change since you were using single channel
@@AncientGameplaysi'm thinking the same way hahaha. thank's bro.
Wil you be testing full ranks (4 sticks dual sided) or density (2x16GB using 16Gb vs 32Gb ic's)? With DDR4 chip density was a performance killer without enough ranks, but since DDR5 is "dual channel" per device maybe the density doesnt affect performance the same. EDIT - Some of your differences could have been command rate not being locked down properly.
CR was exactly the same as well