TRUTH about the Conquistadors - Forgotten History
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- In 1519 Spanish explorer and Conquistador Hernan Cortez landed on the shore of eastern Mexico with 11 ships and over 500 soldiers. When they arrived at the temple at Tenochtitlán, they witnessed a priest rip out a living man’s heart, raise it in the air, and toss his corpse down the temple stairs. This one event set in motion a series of cascading events that would forever alter the course of world history, and create controversies for Cortez, Spain and the Catholic Church ever since. Hosted by Colin D. Heaton. Forgotten History is a 10th Legion Pictures Production.
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I love this!
Growing up in Mexico there was a lot of propaganda glorifying the Aztecs and demonizing the Spaniards, when it was actually the Aztecs who were probably the greatest threat to the country. We forget that Europe brought in Christianity and our Spanish language which we love both so much.
I am proud of my roots both European and Indigenous, none were perfect but knowing our history we can make things better for the future
Sono contenta di sentir dire queste cose, finalmente qualcuno dice la verità. Però molte persone di lingua spagnola sono convinte del contrario.
Yeah, I think is closer to the truth than what others are saying. I believe in Judaism, but I think Christianity is better than a religion that requires constant human sacrifice where as Christianity only needed one.
@@wicked_cool7 Esatto. Il sacrificio di Gesù chiude l'epoca dei sacrifici sia umani che animali.
The Memoirs of the Conquistador Bernal Diaz del Castillo are an excellent insight to the realties of the time. Many tribes sided with the Spanish because of Aztec brutality
Correct. Thanks for watching.
The enemy of my enemy is not necessarily my friend but, they can be a useful ally.
Will check out. Know any other good books that objectively analyze the Spanish empire?
A woman I know married into a Mexican Indian tribe (that's how her husband refers to them). They were one of the few to actually stand up successfully against the Aztecs. A brutal people in their own right, in some ways, to weather that. The Aztecs were truly horrific, as were the Mayans, and that's based on stories I heard from the husband's spoken history. (They have only recently developed a written language for his people.)
@@dawnt6791 Is tribal animus a thing now still?
What's always underestimated are the Spaniards' indigenous allies, who hated the Aztecs, and were more than happy to fight them. The Aztecs essentially received an ironic justice in this respect. In the end, they got what they asked for. Take care.
Yes, indeed. Thanks for watching
Actually, the indigenous allies of the Spanish also did human sacrifices. The reason they allied with the Spanish is to try to overthrow the Aztecs and become ruler of the land themselves. It wasn't because they hated the Aztecs for their human sacrifices, the tlaxcalans also did them.
@@royroland3884 I don't think the Citizen Population that became those Sacrifice,s were happy about it. Like any Religion Centered around Human Suffering. Priest,s were the Leaders in society. Catholics had Inquisition using Death & Suffering to gain Power & Property. Aztecs Religion was Worshipping the Sun God that Demanded Human Sacrifice. For Crops to Grow. Only difference between Spanish & Aztec,s in Religion practice was Spanish believed they were serving the one true God. Killing in God's Name was Ok. Not to mention Land , Gold & Power.
Any Religion requiring Death & Suffering is one of Satan. Evil on a level that is Wicked & Phycotic. Takes Phycotic Animals to Run it.
There was no Right on Ether Side Aztec or Spanish. They are a fitting Example of most 🌎 Religions.
I’m pretty sure the humans that were the actual sacrifices hated the Aztecs for it.
The way people killed other people then was different than the morals we have in modern times
You can read all the accounts from Cortes himself in the letters he wrote to the king Charles (500+ pages). In them he offers a vivid account of the Mexica and other people as he found them, and also he tries to justify some of his misdeeds (as his insurbodination to Velazquez, the fight against Spanish troops sent to arrest him or the loss of some mules packed with gold in the getaway from Tenochtitlan).
The Spanish Empire was a very bureocratic empire, and everything was carefully recorded.
Also you should note that it wasn't yet the Spanish Empire, but still the kingdom of Castile.
Thanks for watching
Book name or something please
History is told (manipulated) from the perspective of the victor. Such is the case with Spanish recounts. When reading their documentation, read with caution. They needed to justify their cruelty to the Spanish Monarchy thus wrote their accounts to keep them out of legal trouble.
When Alexander the Great conquered Persia, he brought 10,000 soldiers with him . When Hernán Cortés arrive in America he brought 800 soldiers with him and conquered the Mexica empire in 2 years by ended up convincing 100,000 native allies to join him and so it happened. That’s an example of how Diplomatic, Brave, and cunning was Cortés and conquistadors!
That and a lot lot hatred for the Aztec by others helped I am sure, LOL. Thanks for watching.
@@FORGOTTENHISTORYCHANNEL Yes, although at first the conquistadors and the Tlaxcalans (enemies of the Mexicas/Aztecs) had fought since they were seen as invaders. After having been repelled in an attack, the Tlaxcalans understood that it was better to have them as allies. Cortes through La Malinche (Malitzin) was able to negotiate with them, and make peace, in addition to contributing with tactics, and the promise to conquer Tenochtitlan.
@@manuelamavizcanavarro9011Tell the whole story and not half to spread the pink legend lol.
The “allies” referred to the Spaniards as snakes, such as the Totonac people. At first, the Tlaxcalans fought the conquistadors viciously. Later.... the Tlaxcalans were trying to decide what to do about the Spanish. The Tlaxcalans would supposedly welcome the Spanish but would send their Otomí allies to attack them. Eventually, the Tlaxcalans saw that the Spanish were a greater threat than the Mexica (and had been so all along). Xicotencatl the Younger, who had been leery of the Spanish all along, tried to openly break with them in 1521 and was ordered publicly hanged by Cortes; it was a poor repayment to the young Prince's father, Xicotencatl the Elder, whose support of Cortes had been so crucial. But by the time the Tlaxcalan leadership began to have second thoughts about their alliance, it was too late.
@@manuelamavizcanavarro9011Tell the whole story, not just bits to fit your fairytale narrative…. The “allies” referred to the Spaniards as snakes, such as the Totonac people. At first, the Tlaxcalans fought the conquistadors viciously. Later.... the Tlaxcalans were trying to decide what to do about the Spanish. The Tlaxcalans would supposedly welcome the Spanish but would send their Otomí allies to attack them. Eventually, the Tlaxcalans saw that the Spanish were a greater threat than the Mexica (and had been so all along). Xicotencatl the Younger, who had been leery of the Spanish all along, tried to openly break with them in 1521 and was ordered publicly hanged by Cortes; it was a poor repayment to the young Prince's father, Xicotencatl the Elder, whose support of Cortes had been so crucial. But by the time the Tlaxcalan leadership began to have second thoughts about their alliance, it was too late.
Spanish are a great people.😊
The Spanish war dogs are the most interesting to me. There were dogs that had bounties placed on them by the Aztecs. I own a few giant breeds to guard my livestock against large predators. One of my pups is a Pyrenean Mastiff, a type of war dog used by the Spanish
Great dogs, and yes they were used and feared by the natives. Thanks for watching.
There has been a lot of discussion of what dogs were used. Some of the contemporary drawings of the period show what appear to be alanos crossed with greyhound looking dogs. There is a terminology for such dogs that I have forgotten. This eventually evolved into the cuban bloodhounds and similar. Bloodhounds by the time of american civil war were more of the german mastiff type and these dogs having nothing to do with the modern floppy eared drooling bloodhounds of french origin that locate lost children.
The nearest thing to some of the spanish war dogs that existed in the southern USA were brindle bulldogs that were about 65 to 85 pounds that were bred specifically to watch property and attack trespassers. Most of that stock has been crossbred with pitbull and is not the same anymore The native bulldogs of the southern USA that are mostly gone have an unknown origin, but are assumed first to have come with the spanish settlers and spanish missions in La Florida and could have originated in places like the Azores and other islands that were the last stopping point for supply prior to sailing on to the americas
White dogs were typically flock guardians and the brindle markings were more typical of war dogs.
Perhaps searching the shipping manifests might give more information on the dogs.
Those dogs that eat people are a special breed, huh
@@edcoonce4622 Not really. Humans are meat and dogs are carnivores.
You can look up 2 breeds from Portugal that most suspect were introduced to the region by Visigoths and or Romans.
Cão da Serra da Estrela and Rafeiro do Alentejo. There are more but this 2 are the most well known in Portugal!
I always loved that the Tlaxcalans weren't abandoned as allies after the conquest and their territory remained mostly intact throughout 300 years of Spanish colonial rule, not only keeping concessions granted to them by the Spanish crown but numerous other privileges not granted to any other native polities in Mexico
The “allies” referred to the Spaniards as snakes, such as the Totonac people. At first, the Tlaxcalans fought the conquistadors viciously. Later.... the Tlaxcalans were trying to decide what to do about the Spanish. The Tlaxcalans would supposedly welcome the Spanish but would send their Otomí allies to attack them. Eventually, the Tlaxcalans saw that the Spanish were a greater threat than the Mexica (and had been so all along). Xicotencatl the Younger, who had been leery of the Spanish all along, tried to openly break with them in 1521 and was ordered publicly hanged by Cortes; it was a poor repayment to the young Prince's father, Xicotencatl the Elder, whose support of Cortes had been so crucial. But by the time the Tlaxcalan leadership began to have second thoughts about their alliance, it was too late.
No more child sacrifices, no more cannibalism, no more paganism. It's a win, win, WIN ! ! !
Lo ahorcaron por orden de su propio padre ,por trai Dor.
The Tlaxcalan suffered cannibalism and horrible sacrifices by the Aztecs. The Cannibalism and child sacrifices of well over100s of thousands gave the Catholic Conquistadors the green light to eradicate them and their satanic rituals.
@@Ed17908Maricone mamapinga shut up. Mamowabo you don't know what you're talking about
I started learning about this period after getting sick of hearing how "evil" the Spanish were and how the Aztecs and Mayans were tragic peace loving victims of evil greedy Christians. Rarely do you hear that 200,000 natives allied with Cortes, or that Aztecs abd Mayans were slavers, conquerors, and worst of all committed human sacrifice routinely. Reading Cabaza De Vaca's story was really eye opening, paints a very different picture of the natives of Mexico and America than my school history books did.
Yes, many people get their eyes opened. Thanks for watching.
The earliest Spanish colonists WERE pretty evil, but the Aztecs and Mayans were pretty evil themselves too.
@alittlepuertoricanboy1993 I completely agree, never said they weren't evil themselves, just stating that the peace loving completely innocent native myth is ridiculous.
@@dthendrick1 Also depends on WHERE in the Americas too. Some tribes, like the Caribbean Arawaks, were very peace loving, and the Spanish conquistadores definitely took advantage of them, so much so, that they practically don't even exist anymore and we caribeños are basically Spaniards ourselves. Others, like the Aztecs and Mayans, were even more aggressive and blood thirsty than the conquistadores and had what was coming to them. I wouldn't say that there's a myth about "innocent Native Americans", but I wouldn't apply that label to every tribe either. Fact is, Native Americans as a whole were very much like other societies: Some were more communal and peaceful, others were hyper aggressive and warmongering.
I always say that if you're getting a side of history that's too biased, you're getting bad history.
Same thing with Pizarro in Peru. The Incas were brutal with their enslaving of rival tribes and child sacrifice. Other tribes joined with Pizarro to defeat the Incas.
I can't even imagine what it must be like to come across another group of people completely different than anything you've ever seen and then conquer them.
The Romans did that when they conquered England in 40AD. The English were the savages at that time.
It would have been amazing.
Wow, racist much Trojan?
Guess you don't know what War of the Worlds is about
Cortez' ship almost sank three times because his balls were weighing it down.
@@bravobravoh1344Where were the balls when Spain was conquered for much much longer and passed around by multiple invaders, ie, Arabs, Amazinghs, Moors, Phoenicians, Greeks, Romans, and several Germanic tribes?
It's amazing how women like La Malinche and Sacagawea have played key roles in American history, great educational! Thanks for sharing!
Our pleasure!
With all due respect Sacagawea's role was a far cry from the woman known as Malinche's role. She surpassed the typical traditional role of women in both Spanish and Mesoamerican Culture. She was the only woman to be given charge of an Encomienda for the purpose of protecting and representing her people who had been subjugated by the Aztecs. Imagine being sold into slavery to the distant Mayan Empire only to secure the position of the sole interpreter and negotiations intermediary in world changing events that would ultimately grant her more power than any woman in either empire Spanish or Aztec.
Spanish American history
If it weren't for Malintzin he never would have conquered Tenochitlan. Moreover, she wasn't just given, she was given for the sole purpose of being a sex-slave. To get out of that fate and secure a better future, she agreed to help Cortes. History portrays her as a trader. But she wasn't. She wasn't from Tenochitlan, she was part of a state controlled by the Aztecs and before becoming property of Cortes, she had been given away as a slave other times. The Spaniard weren't free of these practices either, they willingly took these slave girls in, lacing over their actions with baptisms, and did as they wished with them; either re-trade them like cattle or use one slave girl for multiple men. This part of history is alway omitted when discussing the ruthlessness of Cortes. It was Malintzin's diplomatic and linguistic skills that convinced the natives to go against their enemy the Aztec, essential help Cortes win against an ill thus falling state.
I loved the part where the conquistador said “it’s conquistin time” and conquisted all over the place
LOL
Congratulations on the painfully unfunny joke dipshit 👏 👏 👏
I do that to my girl every night.
One of the funniest comments of all time
Truth!@@anthonypassarelli5534
The Spanish has some advantages but not all of them. The Aztecs heavily outnumbered them, they knew the terrain, had a network of logistical support to replenish food/water/weapons expended, were acclimated to the environment, had their own history of fighting, knew medicinal plants/herbs in tbe area to treat sicknesses, etc... The Spanish had superior weapons/tactics learned from their brutal wars with the Arab occupiers of Spain. The achievements of the Spanish, helped by other native tribes, were epic in proportion
Advantages such as horses, these were new species to the aztecs, but more aztec warriors and people died from diseases than in battle.
Arabs occupied Spain but Cortez was a brave explorer in Mexico. Got ya.
@@forrestedmountains7081 Cortez was a brave explorer. He was also a product of his environment. If he were born into a non European country you would celebrate him. The man wasn't perfect but no one is perfect. You can't cast judgements on people born into a different era and place with today's morals. What's acceptable today won't be in a year.
The European diseases killed more indigenous people than any battle.
To be fair their only biggest advantage was the fact the natives didn’t have any immunities against the old world diseases such as small pox which killed about 69% to almost 90% native populations which allowed the Spanish to overrule them
I cannot fathom living in a time where there is no toilet paper
LOL
Some people say the Aztecs were savages yet the Spanish said the Aztec city Tenochtitlan was the greatest city they had ever seen, as it was clean, with gardens, palaces, temples, raised stone roads and bridges that connected the city to the main land, and the city had gold. That's real impressive about the Aztec civilization, they had no metals, horses, large ships at that time. Also all the pyramids they built is really impressive. The Aztecs practiced human sacrifice, if you know history other civilizations like the Celts, Minoans, and Vikings practiced human sacrifice also, but for some reason not a lot of people want to talk about that.
Good point. I think that due to the eradication of paganism in Europe by the 16th century, human sacrifice was a long ago memory for them.
Bingo! It’s a very distasteful part of human history, in which many ancient cultures shared in common. But the narrative being created in these comments threads? Is that we were uniquely barbaric and the Spanish were justified in their brutality although that was their plan all along lol. Let’s not speak about the Spanish Inquisition shall we?
@@panchoelsancho5595"b-b-but spain is superior and kind and loving utopia of an empire tho and totally didn't kill jews and muslims in the reconquest, just because they don't want to convert to catholic" -them probably
They skinned people and wore their skins...
100 hundred percent whole heartedly agree. The only uncivilized aspect about the Aztecs were the sacrifices. That’s literally it. Other than that, they were pretty advanced for their time considering they were isolated from the old world.
Tv Shows that revolve around Vikings are always white washed. The Last Kingdom’s main character never raped or had slaves when in reality, Uhtred would’ve done those things if the show wants to be historically accurate. But the show obviously needed to give the main character modern morals and ethics. And the audience has no issue with that. Yet when a show about Aztecs comes up, all of a sudden, people want it to be historically accurate to show the savages the Aztecs were. Funny how they find an exception to Vikings who were also savages yet none for Native Americans.
IMO, the Spanish were one of the most brutal of all European civilizations in those days, viewing themselves as the Defender of The Church, and champions of Christianity by virtue of the reconqiusta of the Iberian Penninsula from the heathen Moslems. The Spanish Inquisition was in full swing at this time as well. The men who were with Cortez would have been the grandsons of the armies that accomplished that, and their prestige in combat was the highest in all of Europe along with the Swiss.
Thus, seeing the pagan rituals of mass slaughter and common cannibalism would have had an electrifying and terrifying effect upon them - being only 500. Just as Joshua was ordered by God to utterly destroy all humans in Canaan, so the Spanish might have seen themselves as the Hammer of God.
I'm trying to place my self inside the minds of men of the 16th century, instead of judging them by today's enlightenment.
Yes, we do as well. Thanks for watching
Funny considering Romans said the same about the Spanish. Human sacrifice in the ancient Iberian Peninsula is recorded in classical sources, which give it as a custom of Lusitanians and other Celtic peoples from the northern area of the peninsula. Its most complete mention comes from the work of Greek chronicler Strabo, in which those ceremonies have a divinatory utility. Recent evidence that Druids committed cannibalism and ritual human sacrifice perhaps on a massive scale add weight to ancient Roman accounts of Druidic savagery, archaeologists say. After a first century B.C. visit to Britain, the Romans came back with horrific stories about these high-ranking priests of the Celts, who had spread throughout much of Europe over a roughly 2,000-year period.
Julius Caesar, who led the first Roman landing in 55 B.C., said the native Celts "believe that the gods delight in the slaughter of prisoners and criminals, and when the supply of captives runs short, they sacrifice even the innocent." Recent gruesome finds appear to confirm the Romans' accounts, according to Secrets of the Druids, a new documentary.
Thanks for this excellent, succinct video.
I was at the Vietnam War commemoration in Scottsdale last October when you spoke.
Thank you for your submissions on this channel, they are appreciated, even more so by people who are familiar with your background and qualifications.
Much appreciated, will let Colin know. Thanks for watching.
I took Chicano Studies in college several years back and I really learned a lot about the history of Mexico and The Great Mixture. Really got a lot of insight into myself and where I come from. I'm very proud to be of Mexican ancestry because essentially Mexicans today are a merge of two great peoples and cultures, the Spanish Conquerors and the Aztecs. And I could choose to embrace both or at least just the conqueror side, I refuse to embrace victimhood. Why be a victim when I could be conqueror? Even then, I don't see the Aztecs as victims, althought they definitely were at one point but I don't choose to highlight that part of Aztec history, I choose to embrace everything the Aztecs where renowned for, their warrior culture and their astonishing knowledge of the cosmos, just to name a couple things.
Both the conquistadors and aztecs were terrible people. You're neither a conqueror nor a victim; you're an individual.
@@YOTSUBA_desu Spanish Christian Empire based on brotherly love vs English greed demonic satanic empire based on hate.
Thanks for watching.
Thanks for watching.
Bravo!
Don't really care for any counter opinions, if you're sacrificing children, you don't deserve to live nor your country. That practice is barbaric, even without any other perspective other than a human one. You just don't get to do that without consequences. Good riddance to those people.
Thanks for watching.
Get over it. So tell me about parents in this country who kill their own children. Sell their children out for sex. Abuse the children until they die. Read history about the orphanages. You seem extremely ignorant.
Abortion is the same thing human sacrifice sacrificing the child because the parent is lazy irresponsible and wants to sacrifice the babies life so it doesn't interfere with their supposed selfish busy life the epitome of selfishness and laziness of making ones self a God that of the God of self to eliminate an dependant which is the human baby so one doesn't have responsibility of caring for another life other than their own very much in similar vein of child and human sacrifice as what the Aztec and every other pagan society did.
And so America is facing judgment. 60 million and counting.
The Spanish did the same thing during the inquisition to Jews and Muslims in the name of Religion! They were evil!
Most interesting thing I’ve learned is that “Montezuma” - the emperor of the Aztec’s empire has his family bloodline or descendants living in Spain and I believe are still considered royal and even have a coat of arms
FALSEE, you are talking about a noble Aztec woman. The Aztecs did not maintain the royal families through the lineage of the woman. Yes she was a noble lady but the Nahua tribes said it was the men who carried the seed of royalty. And the Aztecs elected their kings from those who had Toltec lineage from the side of the father. That's why the native noble woman who was also like 11 or 12, disowned her first child because she was raped by a Spaniard. Eventually she freed all her native workers and also reconciled with her mixed daughter because she knew the actions of her rapist father were not her fault. Those people in Spain have ZERO claim to the royal bloodline of the Aztecs. They thought they were taking away the royal bloodline but just like the Aztecs hid the gold they also disguised the noblemen and many of the priests to save them from execution.
@@carlosa.n5100That doesn't change the fact that that woman had blood in her from the Emperor of the Mexica, Moctezuma. Just because they didn't follow the same power structures and passing on of power doesn't mean she wasn't of his "royal" bloodline that still lives on today via the house of Moctezuma in Spain, cope more you black legend soldier.
@@stone0234 it actually does matter. Because in Europe it was a custom to take royal bloodlines from the enemy and integrate them. However they were fooled. This is why Mexico has a strong tribal identity. The flag itself is a testament to that preservence.
@@carlosa.n5100 they were not "fooled" she very much had royal blood it just didn't matter to the Mexica because how they passed power was different. It doesn't change the fact that the bloodline of Moctezuma lives and its Spanish now.
No Mexico has a strong indigenous identity because politicians and politics have distorted our true history which is not a single branch stemming from the Mexica to modern day Mexico but many branches from many different indigenous tribes from America and many Spaniards from different parts of the Iberian Peninsula (indigenous to their own Spanish terrories with different languages and cultures like Gallego, Catalan, and Castellano etc) and even Africans. Those who named the country "Mexico" weren't the indigenous but the Criollos in power in the time of independence. The father of Independent Mexico Iturbide was a Criollo and was a royalist (fought for the Crown) he fought to end the rebellions in New Spain (Mexico today). The flag is just the myth of the Mexica which once again is only there because the Criollos chose the name and in part they chose it because the seat of power in New Spain was in MEXICO city, had it been in Guadalajara we would be called Guadalajarans instead of Mexicans, its a regional name that fools many Mexicans like yourself thinking we only descend from the Mexica in some pure indigenous utopian fantasy.
@@stone0234 the Mexica established multiple neighborhoods outside of Mexico city. Go read please
I really enjoy your fair, balanced and objective mediation during these documentaries. It’s fair to state that the Spanish were horrified by the human sacrifice they witnessed and felt it their duty to end it. Any cult practicing such atrocities cannot expect to endure. Thank you, for yet another great documentary, and God bless!
Thanks for watching
@@FORGOTTENHISTORYCHANNEL You’re very welcome, sir.
They still enslaved all the people they “helped”
@SunsignAquarius Oh, you mean like they did with every other tribe around them? Think it all the way through BEFORE you write it down and embarrass yourself. Good day to you.
@SunsignAquariusSo.. you think that widow burning in India and human sacrifice in the America's should have continued?.... your statement itself is a "moral prescription" in of itself: "We ought not (a moral imperative) interfere with other people's cultures"....ironically
, by making this statement you actually are pushing your own "morality" on others and your statement is self refuting... so stop being a bigot.
Any one of us with a semblance of sanity would be horrified to see people sacrificed and eaten even though my ancestors in New Zealand ate their enemies as well but I would say the Spanish would of been horrified to see that as most of us would and Cortez would of been happy to use that as all the reason he needed to subjugate the people there and enrich himself . He comes across as someone who would not let anything stop him and his ambitions and was most probably very brutal with his methods which is why they exiled him from office back to Spain
Agreed, but there is a false narrative going around that the natives were peace loving peoples
@@FORGOTTENHISTORYCHANNEL they were a war like people and brutal with their sacrifice's
@@FORGOTTENHISTORYCHANNEL Truth. Most of all that's going around now is deceptive and I believe we live in the most deceptive time ever. One can find Truth in the 1611 KJV. It's the only source that makes any sense.
@@FORGOTTENHISTORYCHANNELthere’s also a false narrative that Europeans aren’t the most violent people in history
He was a soldier from the XVI century! DNA analysis of thousands of victims bones of victims of sacrifices proved they weren't Aztecs and their numbers! He was sent back to Spain because he disobeyed orders! Luck the Māori weren't treated like the indigenous tribes of Australia or enslaved like Africans by the British.
One ''myth'' that is still holding on to our imagination is the appearance of the Spaniards, their clothing and armour.
The image we all have of the Conquistadores is skewed. Much because of pop culture, artwork and movies.
The Spaniards are always depicted with the classic Morion helmets and equipment that in reality belong to the later half of the 1500's and early 1600's.
If you want a good depiction of what the Conquistadores actually looked like, you should search for the fantastic artwork by the modern battle-painter Augusto Ferrer Dalmau.
The era of all the famous Conquistadores and explorers, such as Columbus, Cortés, Pizarro, Magellan, de Soto, Coronado and Narvaez, all belong to a few decades in the late 1400's to the early 1500's. Approximately 50 years, more or less.
Therefore the Morion helmet of the late 1500's is an inaccuracy and a misconception, mainly because of paintings from later periods.
What the real Conquistadores used was different variations of sallets, proto-burgonets, skullcaps, kettle helmets and the cabasset helmet, (which would later evolve into the Morion helmet of the 1550's and onwards). These were often attached with a bevor for protection against missiles to the face and neck. Chainmail was prevalent and the use of native quilted cotton armour was very high. The Spaniards would therefore have had a more "medieval look", which would be appropriate for the time period in question.
Imagine a ragtag group of mostly young men, in late medieval clothing (livery coats, doublets, hose, jackets), with lots of different colours and patterns in red, yellow, green, beige, black, grey, white and blue. Mostly equipped with swords and round shields, perhaps simple skullcaps, kettle helmets or whatever they could afford.
I would also like to point out that these small groups of fortune seekers and adventurers consisted of artisans, blacksmiths, carpenters and farmers. Young men just like you, that had hopes and dreams, families and friends they laughed with. They searched for a better life in the New World, away from poverty in Europe. Some of the individuals who participated in the conquest of Central and South America were veterans of the Italian Wars (1494-1559). But most were of low-nobility or ordinary workers, seeking to find success, honor and wealth. Another fact that is not often mentioned in my opinion, is that alot of Africans were a part of the expeditions, either as slaves or free men. Some even joined as soldiers.
History is never black or white, rather different shades of grey (no pun intended).
All kingdoms, nations and cultures across the world has committed horrendous acts of war throughout history. We will never really know what happened in Mexico in 1519, because we were never there ourselves. Why Cortés or Moctezuma acted as they did and how or why certain events unfolded. What we can agree upon is that both sides had a tremendous amount of courage.
Here is a link to my blog, if you want to see my 28mm dioramas. Scenes depicting Magellan's last stand or Hernán Cortés expedition for example.
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I have created these during the last couple of years. My goal is always to be as historically accurate as possible.
I'm very fascinated by this time period and have read many books about this topic.
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historians comment how the environment was actually damaging for the Spanish equipment, in Coronado’s expedition to North America many pieces of high quality armor had to be abandoned because it was imposible to wear them due to the heat. Some pieces were found buried in the desert in Texas. Same thing applies to Mexico. Heavy armor became useles. Another important factor is that most of the expeditions were funded by the Conquistadors themselves, and some had to rely on old war equipment, maybe from a grandfather or ancestor that fought in the medieval wars against the Moors. Not many had the modern spaniard armor, typically found in the Tercios, with the morion and breastplate. Conquistadors were wearing what looks like a medieval armor, similar to those of feudal knights, with the classic 14th century bascinet helmet. Some accounts, like the ones recovered by Ada Brühn Hoffmeyer, note how these armor pieces tend to become brittle and many were easily pierced by spears and arrows. The historical record indicates that most of them abandoned their plated armour in favour of the armour worn by the Aztecs. Tlaxcalas taught the spaniards how to manufacture armor made out of cotton, known as “Ichcahuipilli”. It was so popular that the Conquistadors would send some pieces back to Spain and it would be quite popular even in European warfare, even having a Spanish name, now known as “Escaupil”.
I can see it as being a little of both. I'm sure Cortez was shocked by the religious practice of human sacrifice and cannibalism just as the Greeks were in 300 bc during thier wars with Carthage when they discovered cannibalism and sacrifice of children to their God Baul. Religious beliefs can obtain what seems to us very strange and repulsive practices.
Carthaginians worshipped Baal aka Moloch
Yeah because the Spanish weren’t committing atrocities during the inquisition. Right?
@@fuckyoutube1999 of course they committed atrocities. But the question was concerning religion. Pay attention to the conversation.
lol the Inquisitions pale in comparison anyway. Also, the Inquisitions although "religiously" based, was more about war with another empire, that being the moslems who took Spain and held it for like 700 years, known as Al-Andalus. The moslems took it by conquest, and conquest was used to take it back. This includes all of the Crusades. All of this was in response to the very aggressive conquests of moslems. I know ppl say that the Inquisitions and the Crusades were bad and all but, they were just as righteous as the moslem expansion.
@@colonelblastpack169 I think f@#k you tube is delusional. He doesn't know the difference between the Aztec = sacrifice and cannibalism or the inquisition of jews or muslims.
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Little known fact: Spain was the ONLY European country that had in their laws NOT to interfere too much with the peoples they conquered-however, because of human nature, they overlooked much, but it was the monks that accompanied them that sent back complaints to the Crown. Nevertheless, it is quite significant that were the ONLY country to have those humane laws!
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Ye because you know the laws of every civilisation of the time :/
@@suatchaglan7446 Yes, and at the time, only Spain had these humane laws.
@@beingfrank40White legend.
@@Egr-et6ar NO.Only truth
"You're destroying my culture!"
"Literally just stop eating each other."
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@Deatheater4444 Contradictory considering that cannibalism is much older in European societies. Europe boasts the oldest fossil evidence of cannibalism. the world’s first cannibal incident reported by multiple, independent, first-hand accounts took place during the Crusades by European soldiers. By the 16th century, cannibalism was not just part of the mental furniture of Europeans; it was a common part of everyday medicine from Spain to England. Two new books claim that Europeans saw no issue with cannibalism right into the 19th and 20th century. During the slavery/segregation era... White Americans would wear the skin of slaves, ie, shoes, belts, etc. White Americans would go as far to fight for the body parts of the slaves, such as the penis. White America went as far to create a cannibalism cook book known as the delectable Negro.
The entire culture wasn't human sacrifice. There's good and bad things about every culture.
Saying the Europeans “killed with disease” is absurd as Europeans had no correct idea on how disease spread or where it came from. Attributing it to things like “bad airs” and not their presence or contact.
Well, right and wrong. Europeans knew that small pox could be spread through clothing, contact etc. They did not know what that effect would have on the natives, and probably never even thought about it. The there were measles and other rather simple diseases to Europeans that were devastating to the local. But disease did spread and it did kill. Thanks for watching.
@@FORGOTTENHISTORYCHANNEL Agreed, but what is the solution to this? Obviously, the conquistidors came to (wait for it) conquer, but even if they came to trade or were completely benevolent, the diseases would have spread. The ravishing of new world populations is tragic but impossible to avoid, eventually. Also some unique American social diseases were returned to Europe, I believe. So not all one-sided.
First thing Cortez said about the Aztec capital was how clean it was ,i noticed that about Canada the first time there too!
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What are you saying about Canada? haha
This is a sublime series. Thank you so much !
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I truly find these videos of history captivating !!!!
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Dogs back then: conquered the Americas, fought cannibals, wore armor....
Dogs today: afraid of firecrackers.
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@ChrisfitzMaurice Spain was passed around by multiple conquerors and conquered for much longer. Not to mention that is was European diseases and Native “allies”that most of the work in the Americas. Cannibals were the Europeans considering that cannibalism is much older in European society. Europeans would’ve had no armor, if iron workings wasn’t introduced into Europe.
Europe boasts the oldest fossil evidence of cannibalism. the world’s first cannibal incident reported by multiple, independent, first-hand accounts took place during the Crusades by European soldiers. By the 16th century, cannibalism was not just part of the mental furniture of Europeans; it was a common part of everyday medicine from Spain to England. Two new books claim that Europeans saw no issue with cannibalism right into the 19th and 20th century. During the slavery/segregation era... White Americans would wear the skin of slaves, ie, shoes, belts, etc. White Americans would go as far to fight for the body parts of the slaves, such as the penis. Went as far to create a cannibalism cook known as the Delectable Negro.
Europe boasts the oldest fossil evidence of cannibalism. the world’s first cannibal incident reported by multiple, independent, first-hand accounts took place during the Crusades by European soldiers. By the 16th century, cannibalism was not just part of the mental furniture of Europeans; it was a common part of everyday medicine from Spain to England. Two new books claim that Europeans saw no issue with cannibalism right into the 19th and 20th century. During the slavery/segregation era... White Americans would wear the skin of slaves, ie, shoes, belts, etc. White Americans would go as far to fight for the body parts of the slaves, such as the penis. Went as far to create a cannibalism cook known as the Delectable Negro.
@@Ed17908 So much errant nonsense in just one paragraph.
I did enjoy the video. A couple of things I would like to add..... the first group of Spaniards to approach the Aztecs were slaughtered. Cortez was aware of this and that is why he brought so many reinforcements. When you say temple mayore. That is saying old temple. The conquistadors built their church on top of this structure and it still stands in CDMX by the Zocalo.
Thanks for that, and for watching.
Maybe the invaders should’ve stayed in Spain? Were the Spaniards welcoming to Muslims, Roman’s, etc, etc? Why did they kick them out? Don’t you think that’s rude to do to guest? 🙃🤔
Won’t be standing for long the Christian savages built it sh1ttily now it’s sinking :)
The Aztecs' death from disease was not Cortez' doing, unless Hernando knew what Pasteur did 400 years later.
Agreed, it was not purposely done, but it still happened because of the Spaniards.
We can't say with certainty that the Spanish did not know about the effects of diseaese on an enemy population. Ancient armies did in fact use diseased corpses to start epidemics among besieged inhabitants of cities. The Mongols were especially aware. The Spanish most likely did not catapult the dead bodies into the city, but would have used the sickness to their advantage - if they themselve were not too weak to do so.
What was purposely done was the theft of land and gold. Spain’s intentioned were clear
Bacteria was not discovered until 1675 with virus 100+ years after.
Heres the funny thing-most people dont understand the Aztec Empire itself was actually not just one tribe but a coalition of tribes that Actually joined together held in unison by war and conquest through a king and warlords. 🧐 The main tribes in the coalition of the Aztecs consisted of subjugated groups such as the Zacatecas, Chichimecas, Tlaxcalans, various Nahuatl tribes and Mayan tribes with the Main Tribe being the Mejica/Mexica (which the present day word Mexican is borrowed from). When conquistador Hernando Cortez conquered the Aztec, he mainly defeated the Aztec in Tecnochtitlan but other members of the Aztec coalition survived and fought for many decades up to a century following such as the Chichimeca and Zacatecas. Heres a link to it: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zacateco
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I love your channel you make the history so easy to understand and follow, your very talented & thank you for your service 😊
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@@FORGOTTENHISTORYCHANNEL my pleasure 🙏 ☺️ your channel rocks!
Interesting how a small group of around *500 Spaniards* was able to overthrow an empire of 10-15 million.
They had help...
Diseases and Native allies. Still took centuries to take over one by one and still didn’t have full control later on. Spain only had Mexico (kinda) for 300 years. Now It’s more Interesting how Spain was conquered for much much longer and passed around by various groups of people. Now that is interesting.
Not really, they had assistance from neighboring groups. Also the technologies they had available to them was quite different
@@gisselleperezmoreno1910 OK.... It still wouldn't have happened without the Spaniards.
It's not usually give it as context. But the spaniards were in XVI century magnificent warriors after years of fighting against the muslims in their lands.
I think many people misjudged the spaniards without know how a society is influenced with a yihad vs crusade ideology for almost 700 years.
Were the Islam the creator of the zealot behavior of the spaniards, or the clash between Christianity against Islam which made them develop their zealot behavior?
They could pre calculate solar eclipses and ate their neighbours.
LOL. Yup, pretty much
Brain food 😏
I can't understand why no one talks about the utter defeat the conquistadors faced against the Calusa the only other American kingdom discovered by Spain
Their excursions would be several shows. Thanks for watching.
@@FORGOTTENHISTORYCHANNEL for sure! please do one on the Calusa, I feel like the history of the Americas is greatly cheated without their mention! much love and thanks for all you do!
,All Latin America speaks Spanish, their religion is Catholicism and Hispanic culture was built by the Spanish.....I think that the Spanish Conquistadores at the end PREVAILED, so who are the CALUSA? why are they relevant to Latin America? why does it matter that they beat the Spanish once?....I think I am correct to assess that they are not important at all and NOODY CARES..do that answers your question?
not from an entire Kingdom, they plowed over the Aztecs, they lost battles here and there but the Calusa are the only Kingdom in the Americas to defeat the Spaniards, that being said they are the only other kingdom the Spanish discovered coming to the new world @@ahcariel
Ironic that the Spaniards viewed the native Aztecs as brutal savages & blood thirsty human beings for sacrifices, while back in Europe, the Spanish Inquisition saw the same amount of brutality such as people being tortured in Iron-Maidens and had their finger-nails/tongues cut out for "blasphemy" against the Catholic Church.🤔
Indeed dark times
First there's no comparison, second the Spaniards didn't view the native Aztecs as brutal savages in general, there's many in accounts on how they considered Technotitlan more advanced than any city in Europe, they just considered human sacrifices abhorrent.
@@Imnus Gold and Land makes all the difference regardless of what the Spanish also saw. As long as they were the victors and satisfied the RCC at the same time it was a win win
you dont have a clue about was real or not with the inquisition. al that things you say are just nonsenses...
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The obsidian blades were actually effective against the Spaniards armor as there are numerous accounts of how sharp the obsidian blades were that an Aztec warrior sliced off the head of a horse with one slice.
Yes, in slicing they were effective, but brittle. Thanks for watching.
They weren't, the reason why Europeans swords were so big it's because you needed the weight to actually damage armor, cutting really well doesn't matter if it's also really brittle.
@@Imnus This seems to be a much debated topic because another history based UA-camr says otherwise.
@@Imnus The American Medical Association has reported that that is five hundred times sharper than the best steel. It's harder than steel, and it fractures smoothly. Up close under the microscope, you see the obsidian flat sharp, under the microscope, you could see the obsidian scalpel had divided individual cells in half, and next to it, the steel scalpel incision looked like it had been made by a chainsaw. The macuahuitl was made with either a one-handed or two-handed grip, as well as in rectangular, ovoid, or pointed forms. Two-handed macuahuitl have been described as being "as tall as a man".
@@FORGOTTENHISTORYCHANNEL It was noted by the Spanish that the Macuahuitl was so cleverly constructed that the blades could be neither pulled out nor broken.
As someone who’s ancestors were on both sides of this conflict; I am glad the Spanish won in the end. As a Christian man I can only imagine seeing human sacrifices, but I would for sure wage war against that kind of evil pagan practice.
Tell me you don’t know about history, without telling me you don’t know history-Spanish Inquisition and witch hunts 🥴.
The inquisition was in a totally different part of the world. Tell me you know nothing about geography, without telling me you know nothing of geography. Also I’m not Roman Catholic, so your point on the he Roman Catholic inquisition has nothing to do with this. Rome is the birthplace of Rome the inquisition, and Spain happened to be one of the many places it happened in. Still glad the Spanish beat my Aztec ancestors.
@@leemartin9579Doesn’t exonerate the torture and human sacrifices that the Spanish were conducting on the other side of the world, and the Spanish queen regent María Cristina de Borbón didn’t abolish the Spanish Inquisition until on July 15, 1834. Europeans made it to the Americas since 1492. So glad Mexican culture and its people prevailed through the hardships. Meanwhile Spaniards are becoming a minority in Spain.
sorry to break it to yu but sacrifices we’re actually a civilised thing to do it wasn’t some stupid barbaric practice with no meaning… it was a representation of life and death n that “with life is death and with death is life” sacrifice of humans is just one way to give offerings to the true gods Earth Sun Sky etc sacrifices of flowers n poetry n incense was widespread… yu are the savages not realising their majestic way of life was civilised…
Couldn't agree more. Fuck all the savages. Burn in christian fire 🔥
The history of pre-Colombian Central and South America is fascinating.
A lot of people don’t realize how extensive these civilizations were.
But how could they sacrifice over 80,000 people in the opening of just one temple?
First, how did they avoid depopulation if they were killing people at this rate?
Second, how long would it even take to sacrifice more than 80,000 people? Unless they had basically several deadly assembly lines going, this would take a long time.
Let’s say the fastest rate of sacrifice is 3 minutes per victim. Let’s also say there were two sequential teams, each working a 4 hour shift.
So that’s 20 sacrifices per hour X 8 hours = 160 per day
So 80,000 people sacrificed for one temple means 500 days of full time sacrifice work for just this one temple. Unless they had several sacrifice teams working in parallel.
Of course it may be that the numbers are exaggerated to some extent.
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I did my masters thesis on the supposed Christian involvement in the conquest of the Americas some years back. I read around 10 to 12 books to investigate the topic. It was a pretty depressing time. The wholesale slaughter of peoples and cultures using the name of God to justify, those heinous acts was super depressing to read. The Spanish in my opinion were the most brutal of the European explorers/conquerers. Sickness and technological advances, and the introduction of new animals into the country pretty much gave the indigenous no chance. One of the most sad and gruesome things, I discovered was when the Spanish would enter a new town many times they would release into the town their giant dogs that they carried with him who would ravage the people, must particularly children and babies, to weaken the people before they would go in with their guns and horses. History is so sad. Of course this type of thing happened all over the world. I know the Aztecs and Mayans were also a brutal peoples too, but if you’re honest with yourself, you have to kind of feel bad for the indigenous people of the Americas, who were wiped out by the millions by the European invasion. I myself am a Christian and can’t imagine doing such horrendous acts. In the name of God. It’s such for the times back then.
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Most brutal and likely the most competent.
@@sandelemental6502Competent were the Native “allies.”
The main question is why did the Aztec religion get replaced by Christianity so quickly? Solar Eclipse 1524. It’s when the first Christian missionary baptisms occurred. The world didn’t end when humans weren’t sacrificed.
Their practice of human sacrifice was demonic like the Canaanites who sacrificed to Molech
@@FORGOTTENHISTORYCHANNEL Unless you are the only begotten Son of God and sacrifice yourself on the Will of the Father. Tough topic to talk about but God required Abraham to sacrifice Issac. I believe the problem is always legality in the view of God. We don’t have authority to take another’s life. Demons do not have authority to kill humans but they can influence the living to do evil. Sacrifice of “Self Will” I believe is the core issue as it relates to our soul. Sacrificing your children requires complete abandonment of “self will” to a higher power. I prefer sacrificing my “ will” united to the “Will” of the Lord Jesus Christ.
Christianity replaced it in 1530 with the story of the virgin Mary appearing to Juan Diego.
@@royroland3884 Yes and no. Baptisms began in earnest in 1524 but there was controversy because new converts were not educated in the Christian Catholic faith. Many continued to worship other Meso American deities that did not require human sacrifice. 1531 Our Lady of Guadalupe brought mass numbers of Aztecs to believe in Her Son thru the miracles of healing associated with the Tilma.
There was also the vision of Our Lady of Guadalupe, in the 16th century. the proof of which is still in that church. People saw the miracle and instantly converted.
If it weren't for Malintzin he never would have conquered Tenochitlan. Moreover, she wasn't just given, she was given for the sole purpose of being a sex-slave. To get out of that fate and secure a better future, she agreed to help Cortes. History portrays her as a trader. But she wasn't. She wasn't from Tenochitlan, she was part of a state controlled by the Aztecs and before becoming property of Cortes, she had been given away as a slave other times. The Spaniard weren't free of these practices either, they willingly took these slave girls in, lacing over their actions with baptisms, and did as they wished with them; either re-trade them like cattle or use one slave girl for multiple men. This part of history is alway omitted when discussing the ruthlessness of Cortes. It was Malintzin's diplomatic and linguistic skills that convinced the natives to go against their enemy the Aztec, evidently helping Cortes win against an already ailing thus falling state.
Cortes and his brothers were definitely no angels.
The “allies” referred to the Spaniards as snakes, such as the Totonac people. At first, the Tlaxcalans fought the conquistadors viciously. Later.... the Tlaxcalans were trying to decide what to do about the Spanish. The Tlaxcalans would supposedly welcome the Spanish but would send their Otomí allies to attack them. Eventually, the Tlaxcalans saw that the Spanish were a greater threat than the Mexica (and had been so all along). Xicotencatl the Younger, who had been leery of the Spanish all along, tried to openly break with them in 1521 and was ordered publicly hanged by Cortes; it was a poor repayment to the young Prince's father, Xicotencatl the Elder, whose support of Cortes had been so crucial. But by the time the Tlaxcalan leadership began to have second thoughts about their alliance, it was too late.
What makes me sad: the Indians believed they were saving their future and their way of life. Unfortunately, they were aiding their future oppressor. Only a few tribes came out ahead but even they suffered cruelty. I wonder what would have happened if all the Indians came together to fight against the Spaniards...would they have won or lost? Hey but history is history I only wish I could have seen Tenochtitlan as it was. @@FORGOTTENHISTORYCHANNEL
Thanks for sharing your videos and keep them coming please.
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One thing you left out and it's kind of important... Cortez only made a brief stop on the Mayan coast. They continued onto the Gulf of Mexico and landed at Veracruz. They marched from there onto the Capitol.
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Id really be interested in learning anything about the olmec or Thoth's emerald tablets. Thanks for making these great videos.
Sure thing! Thanks for watching.
Everybody would love to learn anything about the Olmecs. They are still largely a mystery. Some even speculate that they were africans because their gain stone heads have flattish noses and thick lips. I doubt that, but the mystery is certainly there.
For Thoths Emerald tablets go to Esoterica and Dr. Sledge.😊
The cruel customs of the Aztecs played right into the hands of Cortez. It gave him a justifiable excuse to go medieval on the Mezos, while he pursued his plan for plunder. Which was his primary, though not publicaly professed, reason for being on the continent. This was true for many of the tin shirt tribe of that era.I am glad but not surprised to see Heaton earning his coin in academia. He always gave me the impression that he was bound for higher position on the ladder of success than the average rank and file. He excelled at whatever he put his hand to. We served together in the FRG back in the 80s. We were both on the rifle team and I was told I ranked number four in the division. Heaton was better than me. We used to go to the shooting galleries at the carnivals and win every time. I would shoot from across the walkway and he would shoot with the mirror over the shoulder trick. they only let him do it once. They eventually would not let us shoot at the carnival anymore. He was a dear friend who I hope remembers Cpl. Phelan aka Red dog and I wish him all the best and more success in his endeavors.
Colin remembers you, and his being banned from the shooting galleries in carnivals was probably expected. Go to his website at www.heatonlewisbooks.com Thanks for watching. FYI he is still in regular contact with John Donatelli.
wrong, the spaniards and there black buddies were far more cruel, greedy and rapey genocidal maniacs.
He wasn't a priest, that's for sure lol
A truly fascinating video on the first contact between Spain and the Myan / Aztec cultures . 💪🏻🙏🏻✨
Thanks for watching, Thomas!
Always enjoy the channel! Airborne!
Airborne all the way! Thanks for watching
Your editing and animation is improving with each video. Top notch work. 👌
BTW have you thought of doing a Truth About Imperialism/Colonialism series too. A great start to that one would be covering the Chinese invasion and colonialism of Vietnam (the name being Chinese for ‘Land of the Fishermen’) off the indigenous Montagnard people.
That is also a good subject, and that theme spans many civilizations. Thanks for watching.
Great production, love the delivery. It's plainly clear but absolutely poignant. Thank you ..❤
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for watching.
Being from northern New Mexico, the arrival and colonization by the conquistadors has been a point of contention for hundreds of years.
Mr. Heaton, this is a wonderful channel. I knew a little of some of the subjects, but almost everything in your videos is news to me. Thank you for not letting the truth go away to die.
You are welcome. Thanks for watching.
In other words, the Conquistadors took enemies of the Aztecs that were being sacrificed and allied with them to stop the human sacrifice.
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Nope, the tlaxcalans also did human sacrifices.
No he did it to enrich himself , he could care less about the natives
They didn't stop human sacrifice. The Spaniards sacrificed continuously in the name of catholicism
@@kuetlachtli619 I would like to see some historical evidence of the claim of human sacrifice by the Spaniards.
Great video. I read “The Discover and Conquest of Mexico” by Diaz start to finish, and I have to admit I pretty much gave up trying to pronounce many of the names that you have now shown me how to pronounce. Thanks for that!
It’s an amazing read. I love the anthropological vignettes in the book, such as being served tortillas wrapped in a cloth.
Well, we do not claim to have pronounced them all accurately ourselves! Thanks for watching.
I bet if you could ask the headless rolling down the temple if they would have sided with Cortez, it'd be a resounding yes. Europeans should never be ashamed of their ancestors for they were incredibly brave men.
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The Spanish skinned jews and Muslims alive during the inquisition. They also stole our land no one asked them to come here.
my grandfather served in the 3/6th Conquistador Horse Rgt back in 1521. only very late in his life he told me stories about the battle for Tenochtitlan. he kept an Aztec obsidian blade as a souvernir.
Your grandfather? So your family members manage to live approx 250 yrs???
1521?
Thank God the Spaniards came as they brought Catholic Christian Priests to evangelize the natives and rescue them from the diabolical pagan beliefs the Aztecs had. Long live Mexico! Long live Christ The King! 🇺🇲🇲🇽
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Spanish Inquisition and witch hunts. Long live Al-Andalus! Long live Islam! Make Europe Islam again. Christian’s are still practicing their human sacrifices at the Vatican.
That's what happens when you have false gods.
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Really glad for channels like this exposing how no one is innocent, and not just one specific group that it is safe and popular to hate.... I can understand seeing a level of disgust after watching people bathing in blood of a human sacrifice.... I can also understand being pissed off finding out the group you welcomed was only after gold and silver.... Seems every great empire is subject to one of the seven sins.
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The Spanish were every bit as bloodthirsty as the Aztecs they just didn't make a festival out of it.
Research the reconquista to learn more about the blood and soil mindset of the Spanish during that time period.
@@bossman6798Europeans would definitely make a festival of it. Forget about the public executions of witches during the witch trials and where Europeans would take their whole family to see?
Loved this History channel
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Weirdly enough, the worst things about the conquistadors is that they DID NOT change the local customs and cultures of tyranny and slavery that existed in the americas, swapping out one master for a different one that didn’t rip your heart out. I suppose technically better but had he actually promoted Christian values and culture there could have really been a great change. However Christian abolition movements were still in their infancy at best at that moment in history.
Good points. Thanks for watching.
Yes. Because of Christian superiority attitude, anti Christian sentiment is on the rise. Mike Pence and others who profess themselves as Christian are prime examples. Your high profile religious leaders are another.
@KillDracula Slavery in Aztec society was in some ways more humane than in Western cultures. While some slaves were punished criminals or prisoners of war, others sold themselves or their children into slavery due to economic hardship. Slaves could free themselves by repaying their purchase price. They could marry and own property, and their children were born free.
An Aztec slave market (right) (Historia … de Nueva España). The slave has a wooden collar around his neck, which could indicate either ill treatment by the owner or bad behavior by the slave. A collared slave could gain freedom by running inside the ruler’s palace. Fast forward-Soon as Mexico gain its independence, Mexico abolished slavery. Which abolished slavery decades before the USA even adopted its 13th amendment. End tyranny? Laughable when you put into consideration that USA/NATO illegally invaded over 22+ countries since WW2- let that sink in. Meanwhile Mexico has a non-intervention policy. Lastly, yeah Spaniards just smashed babies against hard objects and played games on how can cut someone in half the fastest, but I suppose it’s “technically better,” reeeeeee.
@KillDracula Seems to me that you have practice more on what you preach to others.
Cortez also had other tribes that hated the Aztecs as auxiliaries on his side. I read the Aztecs reportedly scarified thousands of captives as part of Montezuma's inauguration as their leader.
Not sure I believe it, but I was taught in a history class that the Spanish reportedly mixed blood in with their horses' oats so they would get used to the taste of blood when being trained to bite in combat.
Not aware of the Spanish doing that, but the English mixed gunpowder into horse feel to get them accustomed to the taste and smell in battle. Thanks for watching.
Wow... I didn't know that either. Anyway, great channel. I can't wait for the next one. Thx!
The Aztecs were truly horrific, as were the Mayans. Spain's enemies, like England, France, the USA and Holland, have told many lies about the conquistadors, but it's thanks to Spain that these countries have emerged from barbarism. she has built cities, universities and hospitals
Exactly. It's the zionist changing history not the Europeans. Any christian history is perverted and demonized
Pink legend. “But it’s thanks to Spain that these countries have emerged from barbarism. She has built cities, universities and hospitals.” Thanks for the laugh. Mexico is the part of the 6 cradles of civilization, dur dur. MesoAmerica had bigger/cleaner cities than most of Europe, if not all. I’ll stop there to save face. Actually, It was the other way around where it was the Spaniards who emerged from barbarism- thanks to others, ie, Romans, Moors, etc… who built cities, universities and schools in what is now known as Spain.
One of the most famous British historians, Basil Davidson, noted that during the eighth century
“there was no land more admired by its neighbours, or more comfortable to live in, than a rich African civilization which took shape in Spain”.
Education was universal in Muslim Spain, while in Christian Europe, 99 per cent of the population was illiterate, and even kings could neither read nor write. The Moors boasted a remarkably high literacy rate for a pre-modern society. During an era when Europe had only two universities, the Moors had seventeen.
The founders of Oxford University were inspired to form the institution after visiting universities in Spain. According to the United Nations’ Education body, the oldest university operating in the world today is the University of Al-Karaouine of Morocco founded during the height of the Moorish Empire in 859 A.D. by a woman named Fatima al-Fihri. In the realm of mathematics, the number zero (0), the Arabic numerals, and the decimal system were all introduced to Europe by Muslims, assisting them to solve problems far more quickly and accurately and laying the foundation for the Scientific Revolution.
Emir Muhammad founded the city now known as Madrid and originally named Mayrit. While the rest of Europe in the 14th century was dying in large numbers of the black death, or plague, the Moors opened their first hospitals and understood that quarantining sick people had something to do with protection from disease.
This pretty much confirms all my suspicions. I knew the natives (at least some of them) did human sacrifice, but its funny how that is often left out of history textbooks. Its almost as if the textbooks are designed to push a political narrative rather than history.
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I suspect that most of the history we get is full of large holes and even downright lies
You literally learn about human sacrifice in social studies in high school. Unless you live in Texas where they are literally erasing history from their text books. The irony of conservatives somehow thinking historians are trying to push some sort of political narrative to paint White men in a bad light is hilarious.
I thought it was funny when a politician with the last name Cortez was bashing white people for crimes against natives
No it wasn’t left out of the text books. Many other cultures sacrificed people as well. It isn’t only people of the Americas. Research history and people of other nations. People of European descent aren’t so great either. So stop with the we don’t do that narrative. You burn people at the stake.
The fact that Cortés lead a private expedition is usually misunderstood. The emperor's armies were involved in dozens of wars in Europe and internal uprisings and never participated officially in the new world expeditions. Cortés was the entrepreneur type of his time and wanted to be the Viceroy of Nueva España (New Spain) his ultimate goal was staying there, not plundering and going back to Europe.
True, he wanted to be a major landowner. Thanks for watching.
Pink legend.
@@Ed17908 You can compare: Cortés, 400 men; the Battle of Noaín (Spain) in 1521, same year of the siege of Tenochtitlan, the spanish army attacks with over 30.000 men; the battle of Pavía in 1525, around 28.000, and these are just two of the countless wars in Europe held by the spanish crown at that time. Cortés was basically on his own.
@@RafaelGarcia-eu4lp He was an equivalent of an ambassador and the stolen resources went to be funded on some of those European wars. Like I said, pink legend.
Swords, don’t mean a lot when you’re outnumbered 20 to one
But when you have 200,000 allies and the psychological factor of gunpowder, it gives you a good chance. Thanks for watching.
And yeah reading Bernal Diaz work is fascinating!
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Interesting how you glossed over why the Spanish retreated. Probably should read The Broken Spears by Miguel Leon-Portilla for a accurate account.
Enlighten me
@@FORGOTTENHISTORYCHANNEL as I mentioned Miguel Leon-Portilla in his meticulous documentation which is the book The Broken Spears the Spanish retreated multiple times. The most famous one deemed "La Noche Triste". "La Noche Triste" is also memorialized in Mexico by a large tree where Cortez famously wept as his men were either cut down, speared, or drowned. The book also documents several times when over 50 Spaniards were sacrificed including two horses in which both human and horse heads were displayed on a skull rack.
@@FORGOTTENHISTORYCHANNELyou kinda hinted about the wars with the different Chichimeca tribes at the latter part of the video which is another very interesting forgotten part of history. After over 40 years of fighting, harassment, and terrorism it was a stalemate between the Indians and the Spanish resulting in the Spanish having to pay the Indians not to bother them.
At the time
Conquering was the equivalent to star a High tech company.
Cortez has sell everything he had to finance the expedition, the same was done by the other members of the expedition
Like when you invest in an IPO of a new company.
Except the they have to put their life on the line for the success of the enterprise.
So it was a mater of life or death
Success or die trying.
Thank you for this. Incredible video
Glad you enjoyed it!
From a clash of two great and powerful cultures emerged the Hispanic Peoples.A mixture of genes,foods, music, religions,dances, ect.
Rich history indeed. Thanks for watching
Not religions
The Spaniards brought the Catholic faith to the Americas.
@@joedanache7970 yes but there's not much of mixture of religions, they are usually separate and if they mixed they aren't considered true catholicism and in some cases not true paganism.
It was a mixture of physical substances.Religions are not physical substances. With an iron hand the Spaniards forced their Catholic beliefs on the Indigenous people living in the Americas. They had their own religious beliefs. But their beliefs did not merge with Catholic beliefs.
When facing a foe that is brutal, experienced, numerically superior, and refuses to surrender, then there really is no choice. The Spaniards did what they did not out of preference or alignment with their own proclivities, but rather because there was no other way to achieve victory. Any other approach would only have guaranteed their own annihilation.
Pretty much the tactical situation. Thanks for watching.
Reminds me of the Japanese
@@mikloridden8276 Indeed. I should have included "fighting in unfamiliar territory."
@@samwithers8477Dieases brought by the Spanish and the allies did most of the work. Spaniards just road the wave.
@@mikloridden8276Japan was never conquered. Meanwhile Spain was pass around by multiple conquerors and not to mention conquered for much much longer than when Spain had the Americas- bad analogy.
Very nice, well done, except for your Spanish pronunciation…and Montezuma was actually something like Moctezuoma. I would think a lot more than 100,000 people died just from disease.
Thanks for the correction
His Nahuatl could be better too.
Manara Volume 2 explores thus too. Great video.
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Nice job! Small correction, it’s pronounced “TenoSH-Teetlan”
Oh thanks!
Honestly the best advantage that Cortez and his men had was a hardy immune system 😂 well done as always!
It is amazing when we look at how impactful disease has been in history. Thanks for watching.
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Not exactly. His men suffered from the same illnesses. He got word of some newly arrived reinforcements from the coast only find out they were basically all sickly.
The descendants of Hernan cortez and Montezuma met up not to long ago, the video of that meeting is here in UA-cam.
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Finally , great documentary, clear and unbiased.
Thank you for serving, great video!
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Ty for the video. I especially liked learning about Marina. It seems that without her, the Spanish wouldn’t have gotten as far as they did. On my trip to Belize I learned that there is evidence of Mayan burials as far north as the Carolina’s and I didn’t realize how many Mayans were alive today. It would be interesting if you did a video on the evidence of other cultures besides the native Americans, like the Mayans, that once lived in the continental United States.
Great idea. We will consider.
They say that Miami was a Mayan city. “Mayami”
@@juliomendoza6465 😂😂 so on point!
I learned about a lot of this in college history…. So cool. It was my favorite subject because with history, as it’s being told it literally just sounds like stories and it was so easy to pay attention to. (Unlike math and science. Lol)
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you were most likely told lies.
The spanish had recently ended a centuries old conflict with the moors either converting or expelling them from spain and then did the same to the jews. Those that stayed faced the inquisition. So there is little doubt that the conquistadors dealt very harshly with the aztecs.
No argument there. Thanks for watching.
To call this a “conflict “is somewhat misleading, rather it was an 800 year struggle to claim back their own lands and freedom .
“Conquistador: Hernan Cortes, King Montezuma, and the Last Stand of the Aztecs” by Buddy Levy is a really great book on this.
Considering the Spanish Army in America was 98% Amerindian , calling it a conquest (And using the term KONKEESTADOWR) is offensive , relegating the Amerindian peoples to a position of perpetual submission in the eyes of history .
As a Hispanic American , I can tell you Amerindians built and established the Viceroyalties and made them rich and prosperous .
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The spaniards were able to conquer the Aztecs because of the alliance with the Tlaxcalans who the Aztecs could not defeat and therefore were an independent tribe not slaves to the Aztecs. And since the Tlaxcalans were also great warriors Hernan Cortez was able to conquer the Aztec empire.
Yes, along with apparently other Aztecs opposed to their own culture. Thanks for watching.
Correction: Cortez burned his ships prior to journeying to Mexico City not after they took the capital. After the city fell he sent ships laden with gold to the court of Charles the V.
We have the two accounts, but the most likely scenario is he waited until ships were emptied of all necessary materials, including cannon and we know that he used a few ships to outflank the Aztecs to land soldiers on their exposed flank, linking up with their anti-Aztec allies. Thanks for watching.
Yeah that is the truth so his men(soldiers) weren’t able to leave as most of them wanted too.
La Malinche!!! My friend is totally obsessed with her! She is so interesting
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Consider that Malinche, a native woman, was indispensable to the success of an expedition of discovery/conquest by a foreign power. Also consider that Sacagawea, another native woman, was equally indispensable to the success of the Lewis & Clark Expedition.
Apparently I'm a descendant from a Mayan Princess married to a Spanish Conquistador. Im trying to find more info on this but ive not had a response from the person who told me on my mothers side.
80 thousand sacrificed gives us a realistic perspective into how many millions of natives were in the area
Breeding farms?
Cutting the beating heart out of a living human being is pretty deplorable. Some cultures are more depraved than others.
Indeed.
Trust an Anglo to tell you about Spannish and French history. Why arent Spaniards making any docus with English transation. I would want to watch a lot about this Glorious Empire
Basta mettere l'impostazione dei sottotitoli in inglese. Oppure leggere qualche libro.
I find it kind of ironic that the Spanish got offended by the Aztecs ripping the heart out of a man and then tossing his corpse down a hill after all the stuff they did during I can't think of the word for it where they went around killing almost everybody for religious reasons tortured it went flat on medieval on everybody Inquisition I think it would called
Episode on the Spanish Inquisition coming Monday.
Europeans were great men back then. The English, Spanish, Portuguese, Dutch, etc. exploring and conquering the whole world with a fraction of the men is incredible
And Europeans needed help from the Indigenous people and also known to be pedos and rapists on Indigenous women too disgusting white people
This is my new favorite channel...
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Went down a rabbit hole doing my genealogy .. found out we’re related to Hernan Cortez so I’m trying to find out all I can about him also related to Juan De Onate.. just crazy to find out my past relatives ..
If it wasn't for the Conquistadors, the Aztecs and the Mayans would still be canibals who sacrifice people to their pagan gods.
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How do you know that? Did you went back in time changed history by preventing the Spanish from conquering the mesoamericans. Then went forward to the present and learned that the mesoamericans are still practicing human sacrifices and cannibalism? I don't think so. So don't be saying such things.
Wow! Seems like you know everything.
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Thank you.