Fixing a 1973 Williams 'Triple Action' Electromechanical Pinball Machine - Add-A-Ball!
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- Опубліковано 8 вер 2024
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Thank you for posting this! I have a 1973 Williams Gulfstream machine that has been in my garage for a decade basically untouched. Sat for who know show long before that in a basement untouched. It belonged to my grandparents and I remember playing it as a child. They passed in 2010 and I have had it since but never been able to really work on it. Starting to look into options now and will try some minor things on my own before paying somebody else to help. But I plug it up and have the same constant reset issues as you showed here to start. I may not have any luck but I appreciate you showing the work as I have NO CLUE what I am doing but would love to get this thing up and running to where my next issue is replacement parts. Thank you again!
I just purchased THIS machine today! Very cool to watch the process behind what was done to it. Thank you Joe for doing this and thank you for the trade Ralph!!
It's totally worth saving. I wish i had the opportunity to do what you do. I would love to rebuild old arcade games.
Thanks for watching Shay, we appreciate it!
Looking forward to part 2 =) Fun looking game. I'll be in Vegas in 2 weeks , Pinball HOF spot .. here I come !
That place is awesome! Don't bother the guy working on the games though, he doesn't like to talk to people :)
Thanks for another great video Joe. You are becoming one of my favorite repair video creators to watch in my spare time. Working through the issues in my 1965 Williams Ski Club right now which has been a challenge but a learning experience.
Thanks Vince, we appreciate you watching! Good luck with that Ski Club, you can fix it!
Your way of working through an issue in a clear and easy to follow way is brilliant - hello from Scotland.
Thank you for the kind words window finn we appreciate you watching!
When I was younger I played a lot of EM pinball and a few machines used to tilt when you switched em off and you only lost the ball, wouldn't end the game. Probably working as intended. I love em pb machines, especially the sounds they make. There's a pro football one for sale in UK, I used to play one and am tempted.
We've got a pro football video on here somewhere, that's good to know about the tilt thing I thought it was probably a design thing since I couldn't find any way around it! Thanks for watching Dave, we appreciate it!
Somehow I think that potted would be better than those loose wound coils. There may be some reason that this wouldn't work that I don't know about yet. I do know why they usually break though. A loose winding rubs on adjacent windings until the insulation wears off and it shorts out. Every time those fire, the magnetic flux moves anything that isn't tight or potted. That buzz you hear when you hold the flipper button might be a loose coil. Definitely looking forward to seeing this one finished.
I love the sound of old pins.
Yeah it's pretty cool :)
Love your content man. Brings back the days of scouring the Food court Arcades in the malls and Bowling Alleys in the 80s to find the newest and best. I just need a pinball fix now. Would love to find a RARE Williams "Defender" Pinball Machine but were very limited (500 or less). Loved playing Defender with my best friend, and switching off to Williams Hyperball while waiting for your next turn.
Yeah I've never had a Defender Pinball, they were awesome looking but never ran across one!
@@LyonsArcade Have learned over the years that they were given out to Chicago area shops to promote for Williams of course but who knows for sure.
I am currently selling the machine in this video! Located in Richmond, VA. Stills plays fast & smooth. Good work Joe!
Every video I watch makes me want to move down there and learn from you all how to work on all the games!! I work on big automatic silk screen presses. A lot of the same components! Thanks for the videos!!
Very cool, I've seen those big presses before.... come on down sometime we'll show you around :)
I have watched at least 45 of your videos. Being an owner of a "TripleStrike" that has been sitting since at least 1996, I have the nerve to begin the the restoration. Thank-You very much. It is great shape, just needs some TLC.
Very cool James, go ahead and get started, you'll get it! Thanks for watching, we'll see you on the next video!
Beautiful playfield and backglass. Those colours still 'pop'.
We actually redo the playfield on the next video if I ever decide to upload it, see you then!
I don't play pinball or arcades anymore. They sure were fun when I was a kid. However, I do enjoy watching your repair videos. Very interesting. Thanks.
Thanks for watching John, we appreciate it :)
i watch these videos to relax.
Thanks Dastardly man :)
could not see schematic as good on this video , but will watch again to locate mouse. just love it when you work on these old em's . great job as always..👍👍
Thanks for watching J-Ray, see you on the next video!
Hey Joe love what you do and love your town visited it about 20 years ago my friend rented out a race track for a test and tune day and stunt show, is it still a dry county .I have to move there people are so friendly and armed so cool,keep up the good work seeing your videos is why I enjoy collecting and working on this stuff got 3 pins and a fast and furious getting delivered on Saturday
Very cool man, if you mean Jefferson the town is dry but it's only a mile wide, the county you can buy whatever you want :) Thanks for watching man, we appreciate you checking us out, keep those 3 pins and that fast and furious safe and sound :)
They are all worth saving, somebody somewhere loves them
That's how I think too :)
It's certainly worth saving! You self corrected yourself on the L.L. reference-lol! Great video.
Thanks for watching melanated prose we appreciate it :)
Reminds me of the points in my old car.
Yes very similar actually! On these most of them don't have high voltage running through them but the ones on the flippers for instance have thicker pads that are pretty much the exact same as in your distributor.
love these em videos...keep making them!!!!!!!!!!!
Thanks Elvis, we plan to! We've got another one coming up pretty soon, a Bally Ro Go !
@@LyonsArcade ahh yes classic bally!!!!
Great vid. Def a machine worth saving.
Thanks Santor, we appreciate you watching :)
I really like it when you diagnose using the schematics, but when the schematic are digital it is pretty hard to see the cursor (it switches from an arrow to a cross-hair that is hard to see). Thanks for the channel!
Oh well I’ll try harder
@@LyonsArcade I think you do a great job....I've learned a lot!
Joe
I’ve started to become a big fan of your channel.
I was wondering if I could ask you a question.
Now I’ve seen a lot of your videos and I’m highly entertained, but the question I have is how do you know all this stuff about fixing up these machines?
It seems like a very hard thing to do
Did you have to go to school to learn this type of stuff?
Anyway I think you always do a great job fixing these classics.
If I had a video game machine you’d be the 1st person I’d send it to.
Much respect
Greg
Cumberland Rhode Island
Hi Greg, thanks for the kind words! No I didn't go to school, the truth is, a lot of them are very similar, and we run into stuff all the tme that we don't know how to fix. They're kind of like puzzles, most games you do some preventative maintenance to, and then see if that fixes your issues. If it doesn't, you basically have to treat the problem like Sherlock Holmes would, and track down what might be causing that. So it all seems complicated but it's really very simple once you break it down.
So for instance on a arcade game, you put a brand new power supply in, then you replace all the old electrolytic capacitors in the monitor. After that, if you still have any issues, you focus on just the area that the issue is in, and with most of the older games we have full schematics that show how everything is designed and is supposed to work. So it's not really that I know how to fix all this stuff, it's just that I have a good place to look and figure it out!
Thanks for watching, hope to see you on the next video!
Yes they are all worth saving & I love to watch u do it. Actually this is one of my favorite em's. Do you have the "Satin Doll" em in your warehouse by chance?
Yeah, I'd say pretty much anything is worth saving, to the right person
We don't have a Satin Doll, but we do have a Pat Hand which is the four player version, very cool game I really liked it alot! Thanks for watching, see you on the next video!
I recently subscribed to your channel and really enjoy your videos documenting the repair process of so many things. Thank you for the additional work you must do to edit and upload the videos as well as repair the machines.
Thanks John we appreciate that! Hope to have you more videos up soon, see you on the next one!
@@LyonsArcade Just curious, Are there any videos that talk more about you the presenter, what your experience is, what your day is like rebuilding these machines etc? I'm curious as to how much of your job repairs are, I've seen in other videos of yours that you may be working in a public place where customers interrupt your video recording?
I really enjoy these vids thanks for sharing
Thanks Chris, we're glad you're watching :) See you on the next one!
CF cards can be significantly faster than SD cards, you just have to pay a lot more for the fast cards.
Thank you!
I got a solar fire pinball machine, has a lot of parts that came with it it lights up with noise but the side paddles don't work
Quick question, are you using some sort of stabilization on the whole video? Because the changing light is messing with it a lot. Love the channel by the way.
Sorry it wasn't as good as you would have done it, I'll try harder next time
Joe's Classic Video Games it’s all good, I just didn’t know if you noticed or not. Love watching the videos, and one of the last videos you made, the stabilization when you were holding the paper was awesome. Keep doing what you do! I actually want to buy one of your machines that you haven’t made a video on to fix up. But that will be later when I save up some money to come down there in person.
Big like from Old Nerd 👍
Thanks young Nerd, we appreciate it man :)
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Yep, it's worth saving! Was wondering how to clean the switches, any other suggestions?Thanks as always!
Don’t use anything too aggressive a small flexible Emory board or something is more than enough. Thanks for watching!
Public Enemy was ring the bell 😉
I was thinking Rock the Bells, LOL - ua-cam.com/video/ZyswjkZJugI/v-deo.html
I keep thinking the Williams logo is the Motorola logo upside-down.
Yeah it's hard not to notice it once you notice it :) I'm sure they sued each other over it, lol. Williams used all kinds of Motorola stuff on their solid state machines a few years later....
Love the videos,,when ya gonna do a bingo machine ? Miss Universe or Malibu would be awesome.
One of these days. We have a Miss Universe in storage...
Joe, Just t thought to the coming on in "Tilt" mode when power cycled. You say that the game continues when the ball is in the out tray. So if the ball is here when you power up does it bypass the tilt mode and go straight back to where it was previously?
Yes, it does on this game, but on most games that are not add-a-ball games when the power is cycled, the game will come up either in tilt, or in game over mode, and will not let you continue in the middle of the game you were playing. So if you press start, it resets everything and starts a game. On this one however, it just comes back up in the middle of your previous game, I think it has something to do with the add-a-ball design.
hey Ron n Joe..thank you guys for this pinball repair video,been looking forward to this,sorry havent commented much ..had lots going on of late,but have been enjoying all the other vids you guys been posting !! oo and watchin the impeachment sham !! lol x ;)
LOL Thanks for watching when you can Hope, we appreciate it :) Maybe they'll get him next time ;)
@@LyonsArcade youre welcome .....hmmm........they will always try ;)
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I wonder, what is that single leaf switch looking thing in the bottom of the cabinet? In the middle of the bottom of the cabinet... It looks like it might cover a hole... It almost looks like the secret "factory reset" button on a computerized bit of gear.
That is basically what it is, it's called a slam switch. If you hit the bottom of the game, it will vibrate enough to make the weight on that switch bounce open (they're also called bounce switches sometimes) which kills the power to the game, it's meant to be an anti-cheat device!
I just picked up one of these Williams Triple Actions. Just like your Jubilee someone clear coated a bunch of dirt into the play field! Good grief.
Yeah it's a shame when people do that, really leaves you with very few options...
@@LyonsArcade I thought oh this playfield is going to look nice when I get it cleaned up. NOPE. Took a magic eraser to it and scrubbed and scrubbed and notta. It only has a few areas of missing paint too. Such a shame. It was filthy filthy too.
Do theses have two coils? one for power and one to hold , because thought I heard a coil really screaming. Nice job though Im sure all that switch logic would fry my brain !
Boy I messed that up, guess I'll go figure out why it's screaming
JOES CLASSIC VIDEO GAME, Thanks for making the video
1.) I'm confused how the "home point switch" HP switch "knows" to rotate 3 or 5 rotations, how does the Home point switch know to only rotate 3 to 5 rotation turns before it returns to the home point?
2.) What kind of switch is the home point switch? its not a solenoid?
3.) If a ballball game has scoring points issues like if one of the pop bumpers says its 20 points but when you hit the pop bumper it only gives you 5 points or 10 points, what would be the problem?
If the kicker says its 10 points but when hitting the kicker it only gives you 5 points or some other score number points, what would be the problem?
4.) The Score Motors rotating discs have steps that to give all the kickers, pop bumpers, targets their preset score points? if the score points are off numbers that means there is something wrong with the store motors rotating discs?
Hi Bill;
1. There is a little notch on one of the wheels on the score motor, as soon as the score motor starts turning a switch connects on that wheel, that keeps power to the motor even if all the other power to the motor turns off (like, whatever relay turned the motor on). That switch, as long as it's connected together, will keep the motor running. When the wheel has spun halfway around, there is a little notch that the switch falls down into, which opens the switch, and makes the motor stop turning. There is another wheel, with another switch on it, that has 5 bumps on it, on half of the wheel. So if the wheel turns around half way, those 5 bumps or 'ramps' make the switch on THAT wheel close 5 times. So the way it's usefull is, if you need to score 50 points, if you make it score everytime the switch on that wheel closes, it will score 5 times as the wheel turns, or 5 X 10 = 50 points.
2. That home switch is just a normal switch, sitting on top of that wheel that turns around, the entire set of those wheels is called the Score Motor assembly.
3. you'll notice in general that nothing ever gives you 20 points, it's always in multiples of 5 or 10. So you would get either 5 points, or 10 points, or 50 points. You could make it give you 20, but you'd have to make a special wheel on the score motor that only fires twice as it turns around half a revolution. If it's not giving you the correct points usually it's because a relay isn't pulled in that's supposed to, or if it is one of the switches isn't touching right.
4. Usually if the points are wrong, it's not the motor switches or they'd not score at all... usually it would be because either a relay isn't pulled in that should be, or it turns off too early, or the score wheel itself is messed up in the backbox (it doesn't cleanly snap from point to point, over and over again, and gets hung).
Thank you for watching Bill, we appreciate it.
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@5:04 what is the 2 prong receptacle for?
That's a service receptacle... it always has power even when the machine's turned off... so back in the day, a tech could plug his soldering iron in there if he was under there fixing something. They still have them in new machines too, but they're grounded now!
@@LyonsArcade Ah .. good to know. I thoght maybe for a light so you could see!
@@Merescat That too if you needed one, basically anything you want to plug in. Don't plug a vaccuum cleaner in there though, it pulls so many amps it'll blow the fuse in the pinball machine!
What kind of camera are you using to make your videos?
A really bad one
Live and Return (wires)
That's a good way to refer to it. Unfortunately since it's electrical stuff if I refer to it as that I'll spark a world wide debate on how wrong I am, LOL
@@LyonsArcade LOL also spark the hole UK v US wording wars. LOL
Show us the inlanes!!
Ok!
muy bueno pero no entendi nada. si pudiera subtitular al castellano seria genial. gracias.
I suspect they don't sell many of those notepads in the UK (48:09)
I never knew so many people were so uptight in the UK until I started showing that notepad on videos. It's the guy's last name, and we're being snickered at by a guy with a last name of "Shelf".
@@LyonsArcade Ha! No uptightness here. It's a chucklesome word really. It's fallen out of use over here as slang as the years have gone by as it tends to describe a more fulsome, 70s style area compared to today's far more tended loins.Just can't see these notepads on the stationary shelf* at Harrods. Although for some reason, Smeg is all the rage in British kitchens. Love the vids by the way. *no relation
an identical machine is for sale fairly locally to me.. just as well I have no money or space.. I'd probably also have a divorce!
You gotta figure out a way to make her think it's her idea :)
@@LyonsArcade she kind of got me started on this anyway.. she wanted to play Galaga on a better machine than the little thing that plugs in the back of the tv.. So I built her a 60 in 1 from a kit. Next project...….!
38:20 quite paranoid-schizophrenic... like the Greece law in 2002 which effectively banned all electronic games in public places because it was possible to "win" something in them. Well, whether or not you could win anything that had monetary worth didn't matter, because if you paid for a game and you could "win" something in it, it was considered gambling. Or something like that.
Yeah it's pretty wild. Good old Government! Always looking out for making sure you don't have any fun :)
Nothing is worth "losing your religion" for - especially if you are talking about following Jesus … Heaven and eternal life are worth everything.
K T when someone says they're going to 'lose their religion' it means they get so upset they start acting ridiculous, in a way that God wouldn't approve of. Don't worry, I kept it!