We Need To Talk About Primos

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  • Опубліковано 25 чер 2024
  • Natasha Kline's 'Primos' was set to be like any other standard kids' show until Twitter got its hands on it. What was so wrong with the show, and why was its reception online so explosive? Was it just clumsy, in the wrong place at the wrong time, accidentally racist or worse?
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  • @heresyinsider
    @heresyinsider Рік тому +2625

    That VA tanked this fucking show by herself it's actually impressive

  • @oxicleanlaundrystainremove1370
    @oxicleanlaundrystainremove1370 Рік тому +1287

    By the VA's logic, she shouldn't be speaking english, since it's also a conquerer language forced into native americans

    • @Iskou307
      @Iskou307 Рік тому +8

      Nikei PFP, nice

    • @ryeyumi
      @ryeyumi Рік тому +18

      ​@@Iskou307 that's when you know the person's spitting straight facts fr

    • @SobiTheRobot
      @SobiTheRobot Рік тому +70

      Like yeah, why isn't she speaking Nahuatl? If you're going to be defiant, at least try to be consistent.

    • @mistermetokurarchives
      @mistermetokurarchives Рік тому +8

      Colonization is based and necessary

    • @SobiTheRobot
      @SobiTheRobot Рік тому +21

      @@mistermetokurarchives I wouldn't go *that* far.

  • @adrianmarsh5903
    @adrianmarsh5903 Рік тому +5625

    There is something deeply ironic about the voice actress harping on spanish for being a colonizer language while speaking english. Who brought english to the Native Americans? It's genuinely unbelievable she put that statement out without anyone telling her it was in bad taste.

    • @marquisobscurite9104
      @marquisobscurite9104 Рік тому +533

      It's called lack of self awareness, I guarantee you if she visited any Latin American country she'll be visiting the Starbucks for food and drinks.

    • @Nyorane
      @Nyorane Рік тому

      She should bonk herself on the head with a mallet to forget English as a form of protest. 🤦

    • @zoltarservin510
      @zoltarservin510 Рік тому +239

      i hope Disney fires her she seems very disrespectful and ignorant and that clip made sure of it!

    • @zoltarservin510
      @zoltarservin510 Рік тому +58

      i hope Disney fires her she seems very disrespectful and ignorant and that clip made sure of it!

    • @tononanez1601
      @tononanez1601 Рік тому +202

      I know, if they are so concerned with the colonialist languages characters should speak quechua, nahuatl and guarani instead.

  • @skakee10
    @skakee10 Рік тому +1222

    just the audacity of being told your misrepresenting a language and your response being "yeah well your language is bad actually so take that" is just mindblowing. really just reaching brand new heights of delusion i didnt think possible before

    • @srflipp_
      @srflipp_ Рік тому +36

      Terremoto heights even.

    • @thethrashyone
      @thethrashyone Рік тому +23

      And for all her bloviating about "muh indigenous folx", I bet you a hundred dollars she can't form a basic sentence in any indigenous American language like Nahuatl or Quechua.

    • @lolly-gs9ix
      @lolly-gs9ix 6 місяців тому +2

      As a white American, that would be like telling me that I shouldn’t be speaking English. Like, *bro*, I know that the brits brought English over to the West, but *still*….

    • @realdragon
      @realdragon 4 місяці тому +2

      It's stupid on multiple levels, if it's that bad then why put it in show in the first place?

  • @McChicken03
    @McChicken03 Рік тому +3190

    The character “Cha Cha” and her design is the one design that rubs be the wrong way, the gap in her teeth, bugged out eyes, unibrow, outie bellybutton showing, and overall being a chaotic and destructive child, it bothers me a LOT. As an artist and character designer, it feels like they were intentionally making her seem “ugly” through racial stereotypes, along with her name being an insult in Mexican culture.
    Both concept art and storyboards had a better design with a different name, so why did they downgrade so fast???

    • @nurityalieva3852
      @nurityalieva3852 Рік тому +449

      yes "chacha" is a slur in Mexico, is the word you use to insult women who work cleaning houses
      also, "latino" only makes sense north of the border, "latino" as an identity makes no sense in any latinamerican country

    • @heyfella5217
      @heyfella5217 Рік тому +185

      Right? I have a feeling that maybe their reason for this would be that its OUR fault for thinking ugly characters shouldn't be represented. But ugly designs can still be well-made, such as Hunchback of Notre Dame and Helga from Hey Arnold. I personally wouldn't go as far to say its racist, just Big Mouth levels of ugly.

    • @McChicken03
      @McChicken03 Рік тому +20

      @@nurityalieva3852 sorry about that, I changed my wording ♥️

    • @cl13913
      @cl13913 Рік тому +121

      @@McChicken03the word chacha fortunately it’s not commonly used anymore because of that, but that’s why it was kinda baffling to hear it on a Disney show tbh they literally went with “oh this sounds very mexican” and didn’t care to look up for its meaning

    • @T-Jex
      @T-Jex Рік тому +8

      I am Mexican I can tell you I met woman and children that look exactly like that

  • @dumoneyyy
    @dumoneyyy Рік тому +2072

    Ill toss in my 2 cents being mixed Mexican American.
    After the VA's comments, this show really feels like a 3rd or 4th generation descendant of migrants who doesnt have a full grasp on the culture. A lot of what I saw is painfully stereotypical.

    • @Truffs_Stuff
      @Truffs_Stuff  Рік тому +186

      You'll have an interesting perspective on this one then! And the VA 👀
      Personally I'd offer people like Kline the same advice as I would to people completely outside whatever culture they're considering basing a show on: get someone -fully- rooted in that culture to help you!

    • @dumoneyyy
      @dumoneyyy Рік тому +124

      @@Truffs_Stuff Or at the very least, do your research. Some brilliant works have been made from outside its home culture. Many even have the blessing of the culture, such as the Ghosts of Tsushima developers being made honorary ambassadors of the real island of Tsushima.

    • @matias9609
      @matias9609 Рік тому +109

      Can confirm. There are many mixed kids who grow up ostracized from bith halves of their heritage and then take it out om everyone.
      Of course they usually only get this way when they REFUSE to embrace either culture or are general assholes.
      As for the names. Nacho and Nachito would make sense if Nacho was Nachito's father and Nachito was Ignacio Jr.
      Cuquita as a name is valid, however ONLY IN CERTAIN PARTS OF THE WORLD. SINCE EVERY SPANISH SPEAKING NATION HAS DIFFERENT SLANG

    • @Truffs_Stuff
      @Truffs_Stuff  Рік тому +66

      @Matias Definitely. I'm mixed with multiple heritage and while I wouldn't say I'm ostracised from all but one, I wouldn't call myself a part of them either. Bums out certain relatives, sure, but they're mostly used to it. Part of growing up is finding and taking accountability for yourself. If you take that out on others, that's just on you. Lends the whole 'mixed people are confused' stereotype more ammo though when people do 😕

    • @malegria9641
      @malegria9641 Рік тому +13

      I’m a third gen French-American, and I see the same in our community.

  • @lusyfox
    @lusyfox Рік тому +402

    I hate when people pretend that they are smarter than everyone else while talking garbage. The voice astress really gives off the vibes really.

    • @Truffs_Stuff
      @Truffs_Stuff  Рік тому +57

      She talks like everyone else on the planet is beneath her and her massive intellect too 🫠

    • @klonoafan2012
      @klonoafan2012 Рік тому

      @Truffs_Stuff yet your a transphobie cis female

    • @starmoral5456
      @starmoral5456 Рік тому

      ​@@klonoafan2012if you're gonna throw shit around, at least spell correctly. Sit down.

    • @PlumbG64
      @PlumbG64 11 місяців тому

      @@klonoafan2012 bait or genuine mental retardation

    • @estebangutierrez160
      @estebangutierrez160 11 місяців тому

      What a stupid b right?

  • @OrangesodaTR
    @OrangesodaTR Рік тому +643

    Remember The Wild Thornberrys. That well written cartoon from the 90's about a girl who could talk to animals. Every episode took place in a different part of the world, and she'd have to figure out how to resolve all the issues the local animals had with eachother and the humans around them. God I miss good writing

    • @pablocasas5906
      @pablocasas5906 Рік тому +75

      Oh yeah, The Thornberries crew always made a lot of research not only to accurately show the animals featured in each episode but also for the people in different parts of the world. There's even an episode where they visited my home country, Argentina and I think they did a great job at that, probably the first cartoon that I saw where my country was heavily featured and not just a small reference

    • @fcv4616
      @fcv4616 Рік тому +7

      That was one of my favourite shows growing up!

    • @benjamincooper358
      @benjamincooper358 Рік тому +26

      It also has Nigel. God I love Nigel.

    • @izzye-scopeexplosivobrainz414
      @izzye-scopeexplosivobrainz414 11 місяців тому +5

      @@benjamincooper358
      Smashing 👍

    • @jocelynecupcake
      @jocelynecupcake 3 місяці тому +1

      What the heck I didn't know the show was that deep LOL I only remember the movie but Eliza Thornberry was such an icon! And I agree, it was Nickeldoeon as well (back then, both Nickelodeon and Disney cared about their audience)

  • @yourbrainonegg159
    @yourbrainonegg159 Рік тому +1021

    This entire fiasco made me realize how hard it is for newer generations to understand the cultures they descend from or even get a basic grasp on theyre history. Hell even I a predominantly Mexican American barely understand where I come from it's all so warped and skewed over the years I might as well not even be descendant.

    • @Truffs_Stuff
      @Truffs_Stuff  Рік тому +133

      Can definitely relate. As mixed heritage/2nd gen+ families become more commonplace, I think more and more people will feel distant from the cultures of their grandparents. Not necessarily a bad thing of course - nothing wrong with being of a different culture - but in a world (particularly the US with its X-American nomenclature going on) of monocultures, multicultural people often feel obliged to lean into certain parts of their forebears' heritage.

    • @ginsover
      @ginsover Рік тому +76

      I see what they are trying to portrait but at that point those ase not latín Kids but full blown Americans and they need to embrace that, maybe then they would not need to do this racist claims to justify their train of thought

    • @pablocasas5906
      @pablocasas5906 Рік тому +54

      I'm Argentinean but my grandparents from my mother side were immigrants from Italy, though I never tried to reconnect with some sort of past heritage, I mean I eat plenty of Italian food almost every day, but it never cross my mind the idea of visiting the country (though the main reason is that I couldn't even afford it). I tend to notice that in the U.S. plenty of people who are the children or grandchildren of immigrants tend to put a higher emphasis on their roots, don't know if that's because of cultural differences, like in the U.S. there's a greater importance in expressing oneself. But I think most people in the rest of the world tend to assimilate much quicker and perhaps forgetting they had roots in another culture. I don't know if my father knew if his parents came from another country

    • @scientificallyaccuratespino
      @scientificallyaccuratespino Рік тому +8

      Me too, man. Mexican/Argentine living in the US. Shit sucks.

    • @Otra_Chica_de_Internet
      @Otra_Chica_de_Internet Рік тому +28

      ​@@pablocasas5906same here! my great grandparents were from Spain and I know I have some Filipino heritage as well but I will never consider myself anything but 100% argentinian. I have no connection to those roots and I honestly don't feel the need to "claim" them. Many americans just need to accept that they're just american and move on, seriously, I've seen some of them say they're "1/4 Mexican" 😭

  • @icecreamhero2375
    @icecreamhero2375 Рік тому +547

    I find it hard to believe not a single person at Disney said " This show is too similar to Loud House and that show is currently making new episodes. Please come back with another show about Mexican American characters."

    • @rootfish2671
      @rootfish2671 Рік тому +92

      Being a Loud House clone was probably a selling point to leech off that show's success

    • @DEADLYFACED
      @DEADLYFACED Рік тому +30

      And casagrandes”spin-off of the load house surrounding one of his friends”

    • @Musicanimedork01
      @Musicanimedork01 Рік тому +7

      Nah mate that was intentional lol

    • @tasmeenbaker9912
      @tasmeenbaker9912 Рік тому +22

      THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING and The Loud House already has a spin off called The Casagrandes which is from the perspective of Lincoln's Hispanic Girl best friend Ronnie Anne.

    • @Truffs_Stuff
      @Truffs_Stuff  Рік тому +33

      They probably saw the success of LH and greenlit it with an attitude of 'yeah this formula works'
      That's why we got millions of Scooby Doo ripoffs in the 60s and 70s

  • @breadenjoyer76
    @breadenjoyer76 Рік тому +1256

    DID THEY REALLY JUST NAME IT "EARTHQUAKE HEIGHTS"?!
    mexicans and chileans be laughing their asses off
    Gorda/Gordita is a friendly way of calling someone (naming your child Gordita is awful though, what were they thinking)

    • @Drixenol86
      @Drixenol86 Рік тому +64

      Or naming it “Chalupa”.

    • @comparsa1
      @comparsa1 Рік тому +164

      don't forget "chacha" It is a derogatory way of calling domestic workers

    • @sagrawolf
      @sagrawolf Рік тому +77

      Didn’t they also name a character a Spanish insult which translates to little p****

    • @redknight344
      @redknight344 Рік тому +36

      @@sagrawolf yeah cuquita hahaha

    • @MASTEROFEVIL
      @MASTEROFEVIL Рік тому +18

      That's just it. They weren't thinking! 😂

  • @sophieamandaleitontoomey9343
    @sophieamandaleitontoomey9343 Рік тому +632

    Look as someone who is half white and half Costa Rican American, I think a storyline for those of us who love our culture but was never able to feel apart of it because of our struggles to speak Spanish is something a lot of us can relate to.
    But to insult the language itself is something I find absolutely absurd. There is a profound difference between making a grammar mistake because you’re learning and just being an asshole. Why you would choose to be an asshole is beyond me.

    • @SobiTheRobot
      @SobiTheRobot Рік тому +34

      The other thing that bugs me is that I use English incorrectly all the time despite being a native speaker; often it's on purpose as a joke or it's just because that's how people actually talk. Naturalistic grammar (in this case, using the singular "oye" instead of the correct plural) is honestly fine so long as the point gets across. Even misspelled words can better show characterization if that's the angle you're going for. But to sit back and say, "It's fine that we're getting it wrong because it's the language of colonizers," is completely asinine. That was hundreds of years ago; we can't undo the damage that was done, but we can't ignore how things have changed either. Thousands of people aren't just going to revert to the first language that showed up in their geographical area, or use what their ancestors did, that's just pure stupid.

    • @bvillafuerte765
      @bvillafuerte765 Рік тому

      @@armandomolina4225 Remember that in Latin America Spanish, Portuguese and French are spoken. Furthermore, Latinos may well speak Italian and Romanian. Also that Simón Bolívar separated the Viceroyalty of New Granada from the empire, he didn’t found it.

    • @wizhard94
      @wizhard94 11 місяців тому

      Half Costa Rica American? Pero si todos los costarricenses son americanos 😊

    • @wizhard94
      @wizhard94 11 місяців тому +1

      ​@@armandomolina4225men, el asunto es que todos los hispanohablantes sabemos que existe un español estándar o algo así como "correcto" o de entendimiento común. A todos se nos enseña. El asunto es que este español se ve modificado en cada país por localismos y su idiosincrasia. Aún con esto, todos estos dialectos son mayormente comprensibles. Sólo basta con reemplazar la palabra y se entiende.
      Lo de Oye Primos es un error básico y tan absurdo que ningún hispano cometería porque es algo muy elemental. Ni un niño diría algo tan bobo.

  • @tiezoc757
    @tiezoc757 Рік тому +548

    My fiancé is Mexican (born in the US, raised in Mexico until the 2nd grade). He doesn't care about the stereotype at all as he lived with his family, 4 cousins, aunt and uncle- It's everything else with it. When I showed him that voice actress video it made him so mad. He had lots of colorful words bout her, but in short he said she doesn't know diddly and obviously doesn't care. We both hate the designs and have no interest in watching it. We haven't supported Disney in a long while now; my fiancé coming to the point he despises what Disney has become. Soooo sucks for the creator, but it dug it's own grave.

    • @disheartenedboi
      @disheartenedboi Рік тому +35

      I’m glad someone else feels like this because I wasn’t sure if my kid nostalgia was just talking when I think Disney used to be much better

    • @Corredor1230
      @Corredor1230 Рік тому

      Yeah, I'm Colombian (like actually Colombian, born and raised and still living here), and I don't care about the stereotypes (even though they're Mexican and don't really apply as much to me), and I don't care about the names either. The discourse on Twitter is full of American PC bollocks, to be honest, which also doesn't understand anything about the situation. But that video triggered me on so many levels. "The Spanish language is not a Latin American language"... pfft. What a wanker.

    • @Obi7Haki
      @Obi7Haki Рік тому

      I still don’t understand, why is your fiancé mad over the Spanish language or the words difference? I’m trying to learn everyone’s culture

    • @tiezoc757
      @tiezoc757 Рік тому +15

      @@Obi7Haki He's not mad over the Spanish language. He's mad about her smugness and how she acts like she knows everything while she very much doesn't. Also what a lot of people don't know is there's different types of Spanish. I'm Hispanic and the Spanish my parents speak is different than Mexican Spanish. My parents and my fiancé's parents can still speak to each other just fine, but words can have different meanings. There's quite a bit of differences in the language depending the area in South America too. So it's not the language itself people are mad about, it's what this voice actress is saying and how she is saying it. There's a lot of lack of research about what the show is portraying. I can see having a character not know Spanish well and mispronounce things. I've been around Spanish speakers all my life and while I can comprehend a decent amount, when it comes to speaking it.. I'm awful 😅 So I understand. But that should have been made clear before the voice actress decided to sink the ship on the get-go.

    • @Obi7Haki
      @Obi7Haki 11 місяців тому +1

      @@tiezoc757 oh ok! Understood that why I was a bit confuse when I watching her response the first time

  • @cottencandykitten
    @cottencandykitten Рік тому +2783

    If we look at this compared to say -turning red.
    Turning reds cast and creators had a blast putting in their own stuff and experiences. 'Lets give her your nose!' So Mei gets these underrepresented characteristics and it's all so positive and lovely and relatable for not just those reprisented by mei's culture, but by her being a funny relatable teenage girl. Her personality is what defines her.
    In encanto, their personality carrys them. In soul they add the barbers scene (which is important rep but underrepresented.)
    But the very small bit we've seen of primos is bordering the "laugh AT these characteristics" side. . . Like there's the vibe of "oh, wouldn't it be funny to name that kid nacho" . ...

    • @hassledvania
      @hassledvania Рік тому +42

      Shame Turning Red starred the most annoying characters Ive ever seen

    • @showbizstudios655
      @showbizstudios655 Рік тому +450

      @@hassledvania they are preteen girls, so that’s probably by design. Though there’s a big difference between having a character made to annoy the other characters and having a character made to annoy the audience, and sometimes writers mess up and accidentally do both.

    • @henrymorales9584
      @henrymorales9584 Рік тому +105

      But Nacho IS an actual nickname. It's not a funny haha name. I agree the voice actress said very stupid ignorant statements but so is pretending Nacho is somehow a negative stereotype.

    • @showbizstudios655
      @showbizstudios655 Рік тому +149

      @@henrymorales9584 gordita is an actual nickname too, in fact it’s a term of endearment isn’t it? I’m a second gen Mexican American here who was raised mostly by my ‘white family’ so I don’t have the best grasp on Mexican culture and how Spanish is spoken in Mexico, but from what I’ve seen Mexican nicknames often describe physical characteristics, and even if they would be seen as rude to English speakers (like ‘fatty/chubby’), it’s not to them (of course you only use those nicknames for people you’re actually close with, like friends or family.) My dad calls my little brother ‘gordo’ all the time, he did for me when I was little too. Same with my tío. I was under the impression that these are the characters’ actual NAMES though, and not just nicknames, and that might be the issue for some people.

    • @Truffs_Stuff
      @Truffs_Stuff  Рік тому +114

      Showbiz Studios I've never heard of that! That does make it a little better, even if it's usually just a playful nickname haha

  • @heisenboobs
    @heisenboobs Рік тому +741

    imo the art style is just straight up disgusting 😭 it feels like they scraped an artist who’s payed 11$ an hour against a giants unwiped ass crack and then plucked them off with a toothpick onto a dirty dishes plate and gave them a broken kindle and a crayola marker and said here draw

    • @Truffs_Stuff
      @Truffs_Stuff  Рік тому +132

      I'm sorry your profile picture is killing me
      Love it

    • @siloPIRATE
      @siloPIRATE Рік тому +73

      Cal Arts art style. It’s trash half the time

    • @lambasted6886
      @lambasted6886 Рік тому +25

      I would hope then you dislike how 90s cartoons look too, like Klasky Csupo. As someone who grew up with that, I can find charm in something that doesn't have convention appeal.

    • @coffetrueno9791
      @coffetrueno9791 Рік тому

      @@siloPIRATE Ho shut up cal art doesn’t exist

    • @ProxiProtogen
      @ProxiProtogen Рік тому

      Walter white with them fat mommy milkers got me questioning reality 😭

  • @sodafin6874
    @sodafin6874 Рік тому +444

    A couple extra points why this show sucks;
    1. Tigers are shown 3 times in this intro, even though tigers are not part of Latino culture or are native to Mexico.
    2. The 'Ugly Girl' is named Cha-Cha, which in some communities is used as a slur.
    3. The sky is yellow/hazy, which is a stereotype with Hollywood/American depictions of Mexico.
    Finally, 4. This is already talked about a lot, but the town is called "Teremoto Heights", which specifically means a strong Earthquake (which often kills 1000s of people), which is why people are relating it to calling a US town "9/11 City".
    Long story short, I hate this show and will never watch it. Disney cancelled The Owl house and released this instead...

    • @Sakuta3220
      @Sakuta3220 Рік тому +12

      I stopped watching disney a long time ago

    • @Lactosefr33
      @Lactosefr33 Рік тому +39

      terremoto heights is such an insult. I saw a person around twt saying "what if we made a show abt gringos calling their city "school shooting mountain" huh?" it was pretty funny, but that's because earthquakes are devastating to most parts of the world. As a Chilean myself, raised by earthquakes and with obligatory earthquake proof buildings, it's still pretty tasteless to name the city like that.

    • @reverse-flash9769
      @reverse-flash9769 Рік тому +11

      @@Lactosefr33Allá en el DF en México era por dónde llegó bien horribilísimo el terremoto de 1985. Había destrucción y muertes sin precedentes aquel día y solo para esta serie fuera a valer vèrga con eso y adelantarse a hacer esta madre. Bien insensibles son. Me alegra que hayan habido manifestaciones en contra de esta serie.

    • @Lactosefr33
      @Lactosefr33 Рік тому +2

      @@reverse-flash9769 claro, cada vez que hay terremotos, o siquiera temblores fuertes en mexico siempre es un gran problema

    • @vandagylon2885
      @vandagylon2885 Рік тому +4

      ​@@Lactosefr33well, a natural disaster is different from domestic terrorism. I don't really see "Earthquake heights" as insensetive because it refres to a natural disaster. Like naming some place "tornado city", "death valley" or the "dead sea", I'd say it just sounds like the name informs people of a prominent quality the place has, Just as a sort of warning.

  • @MsSumoon
    @MsSumoon Рік тому +562

    The VA saying everything in English to “own up“ the uncultured Latinos is so ironic to me, she is also using the “conquistadors” language, or she thinks that English is ok?
    As a Brazilian, I can't speak much about the language issue, because... surprise, Brazilians don't speak Spanish.
    But as a Latina, this show do look like a show made by gringos for gringos.
    Let me explain-The creator is clear second-generation, so she doesn't have the lived experience of the people talking about her show, she probably doesn't even understand what she was doing was bad or not, because, wanting or not, she has the assimilation to fight against.
    BUT she and her crew should contact actual Mexicans, or even Latinos, they would have pointed out many things that she could have be more willing about to know.
    It's not that hard, we live in a globalized world, but she and the VA live in a bubble, where they thought they were doing a great job, and now being kind of immature with the reaction of the people they thought were going to “adore it“.
    My equivalent for Primos is Rio, Rio is a movie made for a USA audience in mind, and not Brazilians, even thought it's a movie about Brazil with a Brazilian director to boost, but it has all the stereotypes you would expect from Brazil.

    • @e.j5813
      @e.j5813 Рік тому +63

      Cap! Rio is a awesome Brazilian movie! And I know Brazilians who love it! And is not equivalent to primo! Never disrespect Rio like that again 😤

    • @e.j5813
      @e.j5813 Рік тому +12

      Is okay I forgive you ❤️

    • @haengeltheknight1212
      @haengeltheknight1212 Рік тому +28

      Nem me fala, Mas também, aposto que esses gringos não sabem apontar nenhum país em uma mapa.

    • @Musicanimedork01
      @Musicanimedork01 Рік тому +22

      Genuinely surprised Rio had a Brazilian director

    • @Mephistofeles
      @Mephistofeles Рік тому +10

      Meh, sobre o rio, bem, esteriótipos vem de algum lugar, eles não nascem do nada, e considerando a imagem que o brasil normalmente passa pra fora (seja intencional ou não) é justamente aql do rio, festa, futebol e praias cheia de bundas, talves antes de reclamar de esteriótipos os brasileiros como um todo devam primeiro para de serem tais esteriótipos ou defenderem eles (de forma subconsciente) com as próprias ações.

  • @dandereninja4750
    @dandereninja4750 Рік тому +432

    I feel like if Disney made a series based off of Encanto, it would have gone over very well. Heck they could have given the owl house the extra season it needed. They had so many options other than primos.

    • @Truffs_Stuff
      @Truffs_Stuff  Рік тому +85

      That's a good point; an Encanto series feels like an easy cash grab that would've gone over predictably well

    • @e.j5813
      @e.j5813 Рік тому +2

      Owl house sucked

    • @squidsurge71
      @squidsurge71 Рік тому +19

      @@e.j5813 Are you saying that cause of legit flaws and inconsistencies throughout the show
      Or because main character is bi

    • @falconanddragons2214
      @falconanddragons2214 11 місяців тому +2

      @@Truffs_Stuff I thought they were planning on making an Encanto series iirc?

    • @mx.e2176
      @mx.e2176 11 місяців тому +2

      @@e.j5813Lmao no

  • @KotoCrash
    @KotoCrash Рік тому +320

    Outside all these problems, it also just feels like a show Ive seen a hundred times before, just with a Mexican coat of paint.

    • @alurosf
      @alurosf Рік тому +52

      it’s like big city greens mixed with the casagrandes lol 😭

    • @pokemonthatisdisappointedi9605
      @pokemonthatisdisappointedi9605 Рік тому +15

      As soon as I saw it I thought of the Loud House lol

    • @ghoulchan7525
      @ghoulchan7525 Рік тому

      depends on if there is a time limit on when you can revive people.

    • @davidg.6940
      @davidg.6940 Рік тому

      Thats not mexican are xenophobic stereotypes

    • @j.d.t.5761
      @j.d.t.5761 Рік тому

      I saw a little bit of Clarence in the backgrounds and character design.

  • @darkron288
    @darkron288 Рік тому +614

    Even if primos is by some miracle pheonominal the VA has made it hard for people to reccomend the show without "However" after it. Like most of the stuff is minor enough where it might offend twitter but for the most part would probably be easy to overlook, but now the va wanted to act like a smug arm chair activist she has scared away people who might MIGHT have given the show a chance

    • @AJTheInvisibleGirl
      @AJTheInvisibleGirl Рік тому

      Fr. Like she talks like a manipulative mother lying on her bed her cocked with a smirk on her face. I don’t support assholes.

    • @jvmenesesmoros
      @jvmenesesmoros Рік тому

      THIS!!! OMG her video is seriously the worst

    • @TimeMasterOG
      @TimeMasterOG Рік тому +5

      It's a modern Disney show why would anyone want to give it a chance anyway

    • @luckyish351
      @luckyish351 Рік тому +16

      ​@timemasterxx2228 modern Disney cartoons can be good, take the Owl House or Amphibia, and even newer: Moongirl and devil dinosaur.

    • @SobiTheRobot
      @SobiTheRobot Рік тому +12

      @@TimeMasterOG They had some good ones recently. Amphibia, Owl House, Molly McGee; I hear Big City Greens has a very SpongeBob energy to it

  • @Krantom_Kroger
    @Krantom_Kroger Рік тому +891

    If this show ends up having more seasons then The Owl House im gonna be so mad at Disney

    • @Mephistofeles
      @Mephistofeles Рік тому +58

      The owl house is another extremely overrated show, amphibia on the other hand, that show can genuinely join up with the big boys like gravity falls, adventure time and even over the garden wall.

    • @jayfray1235
      @jayfray1235 Рік тому +10

      With the ratings it might get, I would highly doubt that.

    • @ARandomGuy872
      @ARandomGuy872 Рік тому +18

      ​@@Mephistofelesye owl house is pretty bad just a woke show

    • @Mephistofeles
      @Mephistofeles Рік тому +82

      @@ARandomGuy872 owl house is OVERRATED, not bad, and not woke, its a fun watch, but in my opinion the show popularity is extremely overblown amd overrated due to amphibia existing.

    • @toaster4869
      @toaster4869 Рік тому +146

      ​@@ARandomGuy872If you use the word "woke" your opinion is invalid

  • @Aoiraider
    @Aoiraider Рік тому +138

    She reminds me of a coworker who unironically referred to me as a “colonizer” to my face, despite the fact that I have a membership card and blood quantum card to a Native American tribe 🤷🏼‍♂️she was completely immature and insufferable

    • @chiannsmith6803
      @chiannsmith6803 Рік тому +43

      As a white passing Native American I get this all the time. While I'm officially mixed race, my family is all darker than me with the exception of one of my cousins that's just as pale. We often get called white saviors for simply defending our culture because we don't look Native. Truth be told my grandmother is a full blooded Apache Native and I can literally trace my ancestry to Geronimo like, I don't look the part but my genetics say otherwise. I have to specify at doctor's offices that my ethnicity is Native American because it's a deciding factor for medical decisions because I inherited all parts of the Native American genes minus my pigmentation, including the thick oily hair.
      Honestly people like this piss me off. There is far more people that don't look their ethnicity but are and they don't deserve this treatment. Like let us live our lives plz. We don't deserve this bs. I can never hope to understand the struggles of someone of my tribe that is darker than me and the racism faced, but watching how my mom is treated for her dark skin is more than enough to hate these kinds of people

    • @genericname2747
      @genericname2747 Рік тому +22

      Bro, I feel you. I have the exact opposite thing happen.
      I'm like, an eighth indigenous, and I inherited a tan and other indigenous features. So people will literally argue with me when I tell them I'm white.
      Like, sorry I don't want to around pretending I'm a part of a culture I wasn't raised in.

    • @dorian9769
      @dorian9769 Рік тому +5

      ​@@genericname2747Are you me?
      Except that I'm not tan most of the time, ahah

    • @genericname2747
      @genericname2747 Рік тому +5

      @@dorian9769 We are one.

  • @catus-cactus
    @catus-cactus Рік тому +253

    Doesn’t Disney have in their contracts something similar to a gag order where the employees can’t talk about certain things about or what’s happening in thier job on social media or some of their opinions about their job? Lol

    • @Truffs_Stuff
      @Truffs_Stuff  Рік тому +58

      That's a good point, they probably do haha
      I wonder if it's only in effect until an official intro or teaser trailer is dropped though?

    • @rootfish2671
      @rootfish2671 Рік тому +33

      Yeah you would think the NDA they signed would forbid having unhinged rants online about the show you're a part of.

    • @catus-cactus
      @catus-cactus Рік тому +7

      @@Truffs_Stuff it’s in effect once you sign a contract and your hired

    • @edorasmarauder5761
      @edorasmarauder5761 Рік тому +5

      She's in big trouble then.

    • @SobiTheRobot
      @SobiTheRobot Рік тому +5

      @@rootfish2671 They let Gina Carano (Cara Dune, The Mandalorian) go for similar behavior

  • @themasterblaze7563
    @themasterblaze7563 Рік тому +156

    I've seen way too many shows and movies get their reputation tanked in the matter of mere moments because the show staff and actors couldn't help themselves on the internet. Antagonizing the Audience will never go down well.

    • @rootfish2671
      @rootfish2671 Рік тому +22

      Doubling down is never the solution.

  • @josemanuelfernandezj
    @josemanuelfernandezj Рік тому +126

    While Dora the explorer is a nice cartoon that will help to grow bilingual childs by teaching a little bit of the other language doesn't matter if you watch the version for USA of for the Hispanic market, and even help small bilingual child's in USA to feel proud of that. This people from Primos are just showing that they are proud of not learning the language that is the real base of the culture that they claim to be representing. As a Colombian parent, I will NEVER EVER allow my child to watch a TV show with a main character called cuquita.
    Encanto was really a work made with love, appreciation, and respect (especially when they touch the topic of the violence in the history of the country), but this is very forgettable work.

  • @doubledead1413
    @doubledead1413 Рік тому +197

    As a Mexican American 1st generation, I was going to give this show a chance but after what that VA said about how the Spanish Conquistadors forced the language just rubbed me the wrong way. That just made me not even watch the show at all. It’s true that they did that but through the centuries, we made the language our own. We all have our different type of words for different stuff and slangs and even accents. Spain Spanish and Latin American Spanish are very different.

    • @SobiTheRobot
      @SobiTheRobot Рік тому +13

      We can't undo what's been done, but we can't ignore what's changed in the meantime either.

    • @witchykittyy
      @witchykittyy Рік тому +15

      And the English language has literally done the same, it’s been forced upon the native Americans and every other place that the US have colonized (hello!! Puerto Rico!!! The literal last colony of the US that is STILL A COLONY TO THIS DAY!!!) like what is wrong with that woman?! Like imagine being literally THAT ignorant and yet being so smug and condescending about it, it’s honestly embarrassing.

    • @jonahavocado5402
      @jonahavocado5402 Рік тому +5

      THIS COMMENT!!!!!! I’m a first gen Guatemalan American as well and man it was so annoying being corrected on my Spanish from classmates who were taking Spanish classes when I’m like “YALL are being taught SPANIARD Spanish!!! It’s slightly different from ours. Even in Latin American each region has unique terms and phrases too. Even different meanings behind some words too.

    • @danielandres1579
      @danielandres1579 Рік тому

      It's not true that they forced the language. Most of the natives continued to speak theirs and Spanish was adopted only on a large scale after independence. During the viceregal era the natives had the option to learn Spanish voluntarily

    • @bvillafuerte765
      @bvillafuerte765 Рік тому

      @@jonahavocado5402 Correction: American Spanish. Remember that in Latin America they speak Spanish, Portuguese and French.

  • @blessedbe2222
    @blessedbe2222 Рік тому +156

    "We're trying to make a good show for kids, for kids who feel left out, for kids who feel different" *literally names one of the kids "little fatty"* 🤨

    • @dragonmaster1529
      @dragonmaster1529 Рік тому +8

      Now that not a good name

    • @blessedbe2222
      @blessedbe2222 Рік тому +8

      @@dragonmaster1529 so ironic 😭

    • @blessedbe2222
      @blessedbe2222 Рік тому +1

      @greeniebeanie2705 she knew wtf she was doing 😭😭

    • @skystoyhunts7225
      @skystoyhunts7225 Рік тому

      And p#ssy. It's disgusting

    • @NMW567
      @NMW567 Рік тому +7

      People can't seriously be offended by that, nicknames like flac@, gord@, chaparr@ are super common. I'm convinced anybody making a big stink out of that either doesn't know spanish or they're concern trolling.

  • @entr3_nou5
    @entr3_nou5 Рік тому +66

    I feel like the reason nobody really has an issue with Casagrandes from what I've seen anyway is that it's the spin-off show to another show about a very large family. So I guess it comes off less like "this Hispanic family has a lot of people living in the same place isn't that WACKY???" and more like "the main character of the spin-off has similar struggles to her friend in the main show and that's why they relate so well"

  • @doloresmartinez1033
    @doloresmartinez1033 Рік тому +64

    Look all she had to say was "when I was a kid that how we would talk because we didn't know any better" instead of going into colonizers and ect.

    • @whiteasparagus4331
      @whiteasparagus4331 Рік тому +25

      Plus she had to mention being Native American as a way to prove her point 💀💀💀

    • @rootfish2671
      @rootfish2671 Рік тому +8

      She's a VA and obviously doesn't know anything about the show's writing and just did it for Internet points

    • @EddieHawkinsII
      @EddieHawkinsII Рік тому +2

      But if she didn’t mention all that how could she show how much better she is than us common trash? 🙄

    • @rootfish2671
      @rootfish2671 10 місяців тому +1

      @@EddieHawkinsII people in LA are just simply better than the rest of us

  • @ticklezcat5191
    @ticklezcat5191 Рік тому +49

    A lot of it feels like some sort of weird, cursed parody or lost media thing you find on the deep end of youtube, but with a professional studio behind it.

  • @aisukurimunoyume6195
    @aisukurimunoyume6195 Рік тому +44

    Mexican here.
    "Oigan primos" it's def the correct way to say it xD.
    As a mexican born and raised in this beautiful country i felt deeply, deeply offended by both the show and the team's response. It's just so tiring...

  • @Goth_and_toons
    @Goth_and_toons Рік тому +632

    We really had to lose the Owl House, a show that was full of all sorts of representation, for this.
    I don’t get it Disney.

    • @Blitzo8390
      @Blitzo8390 Рік тому +65

      Because Disney was jealous of The Owl House knowing how to do representation better compared to other shows like Willow (Thank god that snore fest was cancelled.)

    • @Sabrinathewitch2
      @Sabrinathewitch2 Рік тому +36

      @@Blitzo8390 yea I’d rather have a movie ON willow from TOH
      Then THAT willow 💀

    • @Blitzo8390
      @Blitzo8390 Рік тому +26

      @@Sabrinathewitch2 Or, a romantic comedy about Willow and Hunter

    • @North_Bound
      @North_Bound Рік тому

      it’s all part of Disney trying to woke the world and trying to change entire cultures language

    • @g4l4xy60
      @g4l4xy60 Рік тому +13

      @@Blitzo8390yes,we need this.

  • @martha2403
    @martha2403 Рік тому +56

    as a first gen mexican american, i have a lot to say.
    to begin, i want to clarify to anyone that doesn’t come from a mexican (or other latin) household: although “gordita” does mean “fatty” in english, in spanish it is usually used as an “endearing” nickname for daughters and wives. it’s common for us to “make fun” of each other in ways that are not meant to go deeper than a nickname or a small joke.
    i haven’t watched this show, and i don’t plan on it. but their nicknames would probably fit better if they gave the audience and episode to explain the cultural significance of these nicknames and gave us the characters real names.
    secondly, the voice actress has to be kidding me. she seems so full of herself and is making it extremely obvious how she is using her gig in this show to feel more secure in her identity and her beliefs. again, not to wave it around, but as a first gen mexican american, speaking spanish is one of the many things that makes me feel connected to my heritage. and i feel that it is important to value and respect a cultures language when you are portraying them. i could understand if they also want to represent the thousands (if not millions) of latinos who are not fluent in spanish or have trouble with both english and spanish, but if they were, i don’t think she would have acted so high and mighty about it. yes, there are generations which have trouble with their mother tongue and some who don’t even learn it, but you cannot act as if no one in the town/family is fluent.
    again, i haven’t watched this show, so if you have and you have any corrections, feel free to let me know.

    • @alejandromolinac
      @alejandromolinac Рік тому +3

      Latin American people tend to use the most "unique" feature as a nick name.... it can be your height, nose, too skinny, overweight, skin color.... Most of the times there is not malice.... Just a term of endearment.... the intent is related with the "tone" in which you say something.

  • @leumas382
    @leumas382 Рік тому +32

    The name "Chacha" is a degrading way to call a cleaning lady btw. Everything else you are well informed.

  • @isabeld.paredes4923
    @isabeld.paredes4923 Рік тому +82

    Some fun facts here:
    The name Ignacio is pronounced "ig-NAHTH-ee-o" in Spain (especially in the north, center, and southeast). Since Primos is set in a small town in which some of its residents are of Mexican descent, they pronounce it "ig-NAHSS-ee-o".
    The name Refugio is pronounced "rre-FOO-hee-o", regardless of regional dialects.

    • @malegria9641
      @malegria9641 Рік тому +17

      Castellanos trying to be understandable to everyone else challenge (impossible)

    • @dutyfree5192
      @dutyfree5192 Рік тому +3

      @@malegria9641 If you think castilian people cannot be understood wait until you see andalusian people speak

    • @malegria9641
      @malegria9641 Рік тому +1

      @@dutyfree5192 I mean, at least they’re not Argentinians
      “How do you say street?”
      “Qashe”

    • @piggybelle6590
      @piggybelle6590 Рік тому

      It’s the equivalent of using the “h” sound for J, correct??

  • @kingagrabowska9366
    @kingagrabowska9366 Рік тому +304

    I've seen the pilot. Apparently, the main girl character doesn't speak Spanish fluently and makes mistakes while writing and speaking. It would've been fine if the creators explain that it's part of her character. And it isn't an educational show which teaches you Spanish. But the creator didn't say that.
    What bugs me the most is the art style and the designs. Is it mandatory that every Western cartoon makes its characters as ugly as possible? Their heads are larger than their torsos! And where's the variety? Another Disney show where a hyperactive girl is the main character. Isn't there another type of personality for the MC? Where are the boys, monsters, animals, aliens, etc.?

    • @skystoyhunts7225
      @skystoyhunts7225 Рік тому +13

      Thank you I thought I was the only one that thought it looks ugly

    • @ghoulchan7525
      @ghoulchan7525 Рік тому +2

      i mean does she put in effort to keep in touch with him too?

    • @Shiirow
      @Shiirow Рік тому +1

      its mandatory that all western media is ugly as possible.

    • @CheeseTheWhistle
      @CheeseTheWhistle 11 місяців тому +4

      I mean yeah, Anne and Luz are two examples of overexcitable protagonists who are from underrepresented groups of people. This just makes me ask if the VA hates those shows.

    • @RogueT-Rex8468
      @RogueT-Rex8468 5 місяців тому +2

      It’s just the new style of this decade. Look at how Cartoon Network and Nickelodeon toons in the 90s looked. They all (to their respective channels) shared a similar style. Enough so they looked like they belonged in the same “universe”, with occasional exceptions like Zim or Ed, Edd and Eddy.
      Today look how Steven Universe came into the scene and suddenly everything took on that style in some manner. It slowly became this.
      Artistically it’s kind of a low key lazy way to crank out product in a way- “simple and colorful to play to dumb kids”.
      I’m just praying a new and more appealing style will come along soon. Because a lot of these just turn me away at a glance.
      But then maybe I’m just old and miss Cartoon Cartoon Fridays and cartoons that were like old friends: respectful to a broad audience that didn’t talk down to us.

  • @flamingfox26
    @flamingfox26 Рік тому +51

    I'm uruguayan and over here gordita or gordito is like a cute pet-name parents call their kids, however, it is extremely weird when anybody except your parents (and maybe your grandparents) use it to refer to a kid, like its not a common nickname and is used to insult people

    • @Truffs_Stuff
      @Truffs_Stuff  Рік тому +6

      Aaaa that's cute!! But yeah I can totally see how calling people you're not super close to Gordito/a might be a bit weird ya know

    • @biancamanzini8246
      @biancamanzini8246 Рік тому

      @@Truffs_Stuff To me its not about being close with that person, its about an age gap. Gordito/a is something an adult would say to someone younger, its strange when a child say it to another child.

    • @FloreMar-yp3iz
      @FloreMar-yp3iz Рік тому +1

      Also Uruguayan here! At least in my house hold, only parents and grandparents call their kid/grandkid gordito/a. And probably a very attached aunt/uncle. Never from siblings or cousins tho. Im still called gordita or "pochita" (similar to gordita) even tho im a little older than a kid lmao but, again, only by my parents and grandparents. I haven't heard of it as a name tho, that is what is kind of weird to me

    • @GessAtti
      @GessAtti 11 місяців тому +1

      es que sí es un apodo, pero un apodo casual. Para un hombre sí pasa que queda de apodo fijo "el Gordo", pero para una mujer no, eso es tabú....

  • @BrightGreenGem
    @BrightGreenGem Рік тому +23

    As a Chilean I find the fact that they named it 'Earthquake heights' both absolutely horrible and hilarious.

  • @oroontheheels
    @oroontheheels Рік тому +173

    I personally tired of this type of art style. And I personally DESPISE storyline where a kid can’t have fun because they need to babysit or entertain their siblings our cousins.
    I know a lot of kids live like that but that’s just too depressing for me. Kids should not raise kids sacrificing their own childhood. Parents should raise younger kids and let older kids explore life in their free time.
    Sorry for the rant. 😂

  • @SphericalNervousSystem
    @SphericalNervousSystem Рік тому +104

    It’s always a red flag when a creator or va praises their show to high heavens when the show looks like that. 💀 is it that hard to make a show, look appealing? 😭 Man I just know kids will turn this shit off to watch the loud house or something 😭😭

    • @skystoyhunts7225
      @skystoyhunts7225 Рік тому +5

      Ikr they could have at least made the characters look better and not ugly

  • @eddie-roo
    @eddie-roo Рік тому +135

    I have no problem with Nacho and Nachita as names. Nacho and Nachita is just a nickname for Ignacio and Ignacia respectively and it is pretty common to hear kids being called that. The creator of nachos, the dish, was called Ignacio, so the name stuck for the dish as well.
    Nacho is indeed a pretty stereotypical name for a Mexican kid and they could’ve been way more creative than that, but otherwise there’s nothing inherently wrong with it.
    Also, Cuca is just a name in Mexico, it only means vagina in South America.
    Also also, it is pretty common to nickname thin people “gordo/gorda” and fat people “flaco/flaca”, it’s normally used as a term of endearment rather than it being mean spirited. Mexican nicknames can be fucked up sometimes, but they’re culturally not seen as mean, but harmless teasing and terms of endearment.
    The only real problems I have with this are the wonky grammar, the yellow skies, the shoes on the power line and the VA’s white savior complex, despite her not being white.

    • @eddie-roo
      @eddie-roo Рік тому +15

      @Kaori Suzumiya Es un nombre extremadamente raro, pero de que existe, existe

    • @juli5945
      @juli5945 Рік тому +16

      Great comment, I'm tired of people complaining about the name not knowing anything about it

    • @Commenter839
      @Commenter839 Рік тому +16

      I mean even if it's an innocent name in Mexico, the creators needed to bear in mind that this show would air in the US. Which has a very large South American population. That includes children, whose parents probably won't want them watching a show where a recurring character is called "p*ssy" in their home dialect. You probably don't want to alienate a large portion of your audience like that off the bat

    • @spectscrawlz_
      @spectscrawlz_ Рік тому +4

      ​@kaorisuzumiya6059una chica q me hacia bullying en la primaria se llamaba Ignacia y la llamaban Nacha, hasta hoy en dia es la unica chica llamada Ignacia que conoci en mi vida--
      Igual puede q sea un poco diferente por q vivo en argentina, por ahi aca es mas comun :P

    • @fabianojeda3078
      @fabianojeda3078 Рік тому +1

      aca un sudaca, chile especificamente, cuca no siginifica ninguna wea, literalmente nada, solo un meme de los sinson

  • @alanparra6415
    @alanparra6415 Рік тому +40

    Here in Mexico, there was a museum expo about the trips Walt Disney and his team (Mary Blair, etc.) made to Latin America. They made a huge effort to get to know our cultures and create great content aimed at us. Now we have this inept woke creators who call us racist for pointing their racism, Disney company has fallen to the lowest point I've ever seen.

  • @theironraven5502
    @theironraven5502 Рік тому +34

    Funnily enough, the term "Latin America" comes from a colonial nation, specifically France. Napoleon III wanted to build a new French Empire because his grandpa was such a badass. Anyway, he saw Central and South America as the perfect fruit to pick, however attacking Mexico would probably provoke a response from the United States and the British Empire. As a result, he called the Spanish speaking regions of the Americas "Latin America" because Spanish is a Romance language, while English is a Germanic language. Therefore, Napoleon III avoided provoking the Americans and British, although Napoleon's new empire never came to fruition. Also, since French is a Romance language, Quebec is part of Latin America. More importantly, using Latin America to describe Central and South America means that you're using a term from the colonizers. Hell, "America" comes from Amerigo Vespucci, an Italian explorer, and it was first used by a German cartographer. Both are Europeans, therefore colonizers, so we need a new term for the New World. Oh wait, that's also from colonizers. Now that I think about it, the name for Earth came from the Germans, who are European, therefore colonizers.
    That voice actor sure is dumb, or at least doesn't think about her argument for more than a second.
    Edit: Earth is a Germanic word apparently, not Greek

    • @ultimate6295
      @ultimate6295 Рік тому +1

      Wait, can you explain in how far “Earth“ derives from Greek?
      It‘s a Germanic word through and through after all, so I was a bit confused on that part of your comment

    • @theironraven5502
      @theironraven5502 Рік тому

      @@ultimate6295 Okay, I didn't doublecheck that part, just assumed given that every other planet and a lot of the dwarfs are Greco-Roman. But more importantly, Germans are European, therefore COLONIZERS

    • @CheeseTheWhistle
      @CheeseTheWhistle 10 місяців тому

      Come to think of it, English itself is a colonial language

    • @theironraven5502
      @theironraven5502 10 місяців тому

      @@CheeseTheWhistleYou're right. Let's use Japanese, those guys NEVER tried to brutally conquer a nominally independent state and exploit it for its resources

  • @karenbonds264
    @karenbonds264 Рік тому +7

    6:55 I can *taste* that smug condescension from across the room, Holy Frijole.

    • @Truffs_Stuff
      @Truffs_Stuff  Рік тому +2

      She really thought all that was clever

  • @marialuz3002
    @marialuz3002 Рік тому +16

    Also, in Mexico "Chacha" is a pejorative way of referring to a woman who does cleaning work in a house for a meager economic benefit.

  • @JJBitter
    @JJBitter Рік тому +114

    Mexican here, Nacho is a nickname for people named Ignacio, in fact you would hear nacho more often than Ignacio, and Nachito it's just little Nacho
    Same with Cuca, less common but perfectly normal and acceptable at least here in Mexico.

    • @Truffs_Stuff
      @Truffs_Stuff  Рік тому +20

      Yeah, it's a pretty common name isn't it! It's cute too tbh 😍

    • @s_lopez8052
      @s_lopez8052 Рік тому +2

      Still it's racist to equate Latino people to food. The brothers on the show are called Nacho and Nachito. Dumb. Can't even give them real names. This is why DC Comics had so much warranted backlash from the Latino community for making variant covers of Latino heroes eating food to celebrate Hispanic Heritage Month.

    • @JJBitter
      @JJBitter Рік тому +68

      @@s_lopez8052 it's not racist and it's not equating people to food ffs, Nacho is a really common and affectionate nickname for people named Ignacio, and the nickname is in fact older than the dish by at least a couple of centuries, and as I already said, it's even more common to hear or say Nacho than Ignacio when talking about somebody named Ignacio
      I really love when someone that knows close to nothing about my culture gets offended in my behalf and tells me that something is offensive to me or my culture

    • @juli5945
      @juli5945 Рік тому +42

      ​@@s_lopez8052Nachos (the food) are called that BECAUSE the person who created them was named Nacho (Ignacio).
      You might want to research before saying something is racist when it's actually not.

    • @Diego5151999
      @Diego5151999 Рік тому +2

      My name was originally going to be Ignacio but instead it’s part of my middle name. I had no clue it had Nacho as a nickname

  • @jpc7795
    @jpc7795 Рік тому +31

    Not to be rude but, Disney honestly knew this was gonna happen. This show might last 10 episodes and then once its done, they grab their money and run. Sadly, and I sincerely hope they dont layoff or fire anybody, but that might happen

  • @guerreiroazul3230
    @guerreiroazul3230 Рік тому +20

    "The spanish language is not a LATIN american language". How can someone say such a thing and not realise how stupid it sounds?

    • @leomarques5218
      @leomarques5218 Рік тому +2

      We are called Latin americans just for the fact that our languages from Latin

    • @guerreiroazul3230
      @guerreiroazul3230 Рік тому +3

      @@leomarques5218 I know, i'm from Brasil

  • @scoobydoo23320
    @scoobydoo23320 Рік тому +41

    This gives me flashbacks to the live action cowboy bebop.
    The show had problems but what finally killed it was the actress for Faye Valentine made a very bad public response to the criticism and the show spiraled from there.

  • @squiddy_19
    @squiddy_19 Рік тому +10

    It's like they looked at a Taco Bell menu and decided to name all the characters after whats on it

    • @Truffs_Stuff
      @Truffs_Stuff  Рік тому +1

      😂 Dead

    • @SkyeID
      @SkyeID 2 місяці тому +1

      that happened with Chinese in the animated Mulan. In the film, someone was writing a letter, and a Chinese person pointed out that a portion of that letter said "general tso chicken". Did the animators take a Chinese food menu and put it in their movie, hoping no one would notice?

  • @whiteasparagus4331
    @whiteasparagus4331 Рік тому +30

    Honestly as a person who actually lives in Latin america, i feel like the show could have had a chance if it wasn’t so grossly stereotypical, like yeah maybe the creator wanted to put their own experience growing up as Mexican american, but then the VA’s response was so fucking smug that it makes me not want to see this shit at all

  • @herpderp3916
    @herpderp3916 Рік тому +75

    My dad has a Latino coworker/friend who goes by Taco as a nickname (his full name is Ricardo I think) but yeah, the names for these characters are still pretty bad, especially if those ARE their names and not just nicknames.
    Also, the VA has a very punchable face.

    • @juli5945
      @juli5945 Рік тому +9

      Just so you know, Nacho is the nickname for Ignacio. It's like Tim or Bob, it has nothing to do with calling someone a literal food like taco.

    • @herpderp3916
      @herpderp3916 Рік тому +1

      @@juli5945 Yes, I watched the video too.

    • @juli5945
      @juli5945 Рік тому +7

      @@herpderp3916 My bad, I thought you hadn't seen that part since you talked about someone that went by Taco, and sadly many commenters are still under the impression that Nacho is racist. Sorry bout that

    • @cacarlin70
      @cacarlin70 Рік тому +1

      My brother knew a guy in high school nicknamed Masa

  • @Blitzo8390
    @Blitzo8390 Рік тому +22

    If I had criticism like that, I would have done it the way Joel Schumacher did when Batman & Robin had a very bad critical reception
    I would say something along the lines of ‘If I offended you in anyway, then I’d like to apologise because this was not my intention. I just wanted to make something that was fun and entertaining.’ This is how you acknowledge criticism in a healthy way

  • @kimifw58
    @kimifw58 Рік тому +7

    "die mad about it" is possibly the worst response you can give to criticism. It's so cowardly.

  • @carolinazuniga8387
    @carolinazuniga8387 Рік тому +5

    Nacho is not because of the food, we call Nacho to someone named Ignacio, its like when you call Robert, Bob.

  • @owenwilson2869
    @owenwilson2869 Рік тому +4

    The art style/designs for the characters looks like a mix of loud house & clearance in my opinion

  • @BlooftubeBloof
    @BlooftubeBloof Рік тому +7

    La Bussi vs Cuquita death tournament.

  • @carinaetacarin9252
    @carinaetacarin9252 Рік тому +19

    In latinamerican culture “gordo/a” and “gordito/a” are used as playful or affectionate terms for family members. Despite the meaning, its not considered offensive in those contexts. However its not something that translates well to other cultures.
    It’s not inaccurate, but its also not something you want to put in a show that will likely be many non-latino children’s first introduction to Latin American culture.

  • @theunicornbay4286
    @theunicornbay4286 Рік тому +6

    "Latinx" the worst slur you can give to a latino 😂

  • @sunnysunsun5994
    @sunnysunsun5994 Рік тому +12

    For Cuquita;
    I THINK they were trying to have it be a nickname of nickname.
    The baby’s name is probably Refugio, which the nickname is Cuca/Cuco (female/male respectively)
    Put an “ita”, and its little Cuca.
    Its an old old name, my grandmother is named it.
    Having her name be Cuca would’ve been cute.
    But the only Cuquita i know is the wife of the late great El Rey Vicenete Fernandez.
    But im mexican american, and i don’t know Mexican slang. Is it true? Probably. Why would someone lie about that.
    However! I personally would’ve had the name be Cuca.

  • @kymo6343
    @kymo6343 Рік тому +8

    The tone of her voice when she's all like "lol be mad then" isn't the voice of someone who really feels righteous about what they are creating, her voice is someone who is laughing all the way to the bank...

  • @ILovePancakes24
    @ILovePancakes24 Рік тому +11

    This people made this show without consulting any Mexicans or Latins.

  • @salazarmandragora
    @salazarmandragora Рік тому +3

    All they had to say is that the title was a commentary on the fact that the second-generation children of immigrants often don't have a good grasp on their native language.

  • @user-et2xq4pu2q
    @user-et2xq4pu2q Рік тому +24

    OK. I just realized that I liked the video, I wanted to subscribe to the channel. But it turned out that I had already subscribed. What surprised me was just the ridiculously low number of subscribers, because the quality of the content is quite high. It's funny that UA-cam generally decided to support the young author on the platform. Good luck to you in the future.
    P.S. You have at least one subscriber from Ukraine.

    • @Truffs_Stuff
      @Truffs_Stuff  Рік тому +1

      Aw shucks, you're far too kind!! Thanks for watching 😄

  • @fueradelmeta
    @fueradelmeta Рік тому +19

    Imagine having one of your relatives unalived by an earthquake. Then Disney creates a show where the town is called "Terremoto". It is like creating a Japanese oriented series and the town is named "Tsunami Town".

  • @jupiterlantern2601
    @jupiterlantern2601 Рік тому +6

    A comment i found on Twitter describes thie show best from what we can see so far:"This show looks like if latinx is a show"💀

  • @kacklina
    @kacklina Рік тому +62

    So, spanish was forced by Spanish conquerors...so our different latinamerican cultures, the development of them and use of language to become unique don't really matter, I feel so represented. We all should know we post colonized are not authentic people and our different cultures doesn't matter anyway, so we don't matter anyway, and we should feel elongated for whatever she do in her project. She should do a prehispanic cartoon...but I suspect it could be more problematic for her. I'm going to admit something, she would fit very well in a position of authority in the Mexican government without a problem, It's the cheesy, misinformed, on the defensive, and of all dirty transparently manipulative using xenophobic bases as a defense argument that anyone in a political position in this country would give. Ok, trying to be more constructive, maybe she should make the cartoon about the experience of having a multicultural family, it's something a lot of kids could relate to and they could feel understood. As a mexican/Italian, I know I would have liked that kind of show when I was a kid. I think it would be a more unique concept. She might as well not fight with the comments.

    • @ILovePancakes24
      @ILovePancakes24 Рік тому +14

      The self assured smugness of our political reps always makes me angry. The " I'm better than you" vibe.

    • @kacklina
      @kacklina Рік тому +3

      @@ILovePancakes24 yep, when you are better you don't need to understand, know, or even care how you articulate your thoughts or how things come out of your mouth, we just have to like and relax.

    • @tononanez1601
      @tononanez1601 Рік тому +3

      I agree 100% with your statement. Also, Mexican/Italian? The cuisine in your house should be amazing.

    • @kacklina
      @kacklina Рік тому

      @@tononanez1601 Thank you, we do like to cook a lot xD, Italians and Mexicans are very similar, we are very attached to the family, noisy, and food lovers.

    • @klonoafan2012
      @klonoafan2012 Рік тому

      @@kacklina your probably a transphobic cis

  • @ArendAlphaEagle
    @ArendAlphaEagle Рік тому +16

    Should point out, the name is supposed to be spelled "Cookita" instead of "Cuquita", according to some press articles. Google Translate translates Cookita to "cookie", but I'm not sure if that's really correct...

    • @Truffs_Stuff
      @Truffs_Stuff  Рік тому +8

      Ahhh, that's interesting! Still, they gotta be careful with these things because it sure sounds like something else 👀

    • @KnucklesxReala911
      @KnucklesxReala911 Рік тому +3

      Is hard to say honestly, there is not info about it on the IMDb except for a character named coñito and URHMMMMMP that's now a 100% unfortunate name choice

    • @Truffs_Stuff
      @Truffs_Stuff  Рік тому

      @@KnucklesxReala911 NOOOO tell me that's a joke 😭

    • @KnucklesxReala911
      @KnucklesxReala911 Рік тому

      @@Truffs_Stuff i just checked and the name is no longer there,i think the main girl va was gonna do a few extra voices and it was there mentioned, i did took a picture because I couldn't believe what i was seeing

    • @whiteasparagus4331
      @whiteasparagus4331 Рік тому

      Bro in my country cuca/cuquita is a way to call female genitals lol

  • @tononanez1601
    @tononanez1601 Рік тому +12

    The thing that surprised me the most is the grammatical error IN THE THEME SONG, how such a major detail went that far? If they said "yeah we now, they are like 3rd generation so they bearly speak Spanish" i would get it but no.
    It comes across as ignorance so bad, i think thats what blew this think out of proportion.

  • @DALKurumiTokisaki
    @DALKurumiTokisaki Рік тому +18

    The fact that 2 characters are named Nacho, 1 character being named a slang for female genitalia, and 1 character being named a literal slur (Chacha is a slur in Mexico) somehow got past Disney astounds me.

  • @electricsabbath996
    @electricsabbath996 Рік тому +14

    Honestly people like her deserve to get their show canned mid season 1, you can tell she is obviously a person who expects everything to be given to her on a silver platter.

    • @skystoyhunts7225
      @skystoyhunts7225 Рік тому +2

      I agree I hope it gets cancelled after a few episodes

  • @MF99K
    @MF99K Рік тому +30

    I would argue that the shoe tossing thing isn't necessarily dark, since most of the darker associations are more of an urban myth. Most shoes on wires are from pranks or bullying

    • @mendeleyev1790
      @mendeleyev1790 Рік тому +4

      Jajaj they are definetly not a urban myth atleast not in Argentina it's like using car parts to signal which houses to rob.

    • @MF99K
      @MF99K Рік тому +1

      @@mendeleyev1790 might be a regional difference then. Also I don't believe I've heard of the car parts thing.

    • @mendeleyev1790
      @mendeleyev1790 Рік тому +2

      @@MF99K anyhting really before they bust in your house they left some sort of mark or something

    • @GessAtti
      @GessAtti 11 місяців тому

      ​@@MF99KNo, no es un mito. Si hay zapatillas colgadas, es que le robaron a alguien y las colgaron como hazaña, también significa que es zona de venta de drogas, o para señalizar que es una zona de bandas. En TODA Latinoamérica. Así que estuvo mal que lo caricaturizaran...

  • @darlinrose3816
    @darlinrose3816 Рік тому +8

    I understand calling the very skinny girl "gordita" as some sort of family nickname.
    I myself am from Puerto Rico and when I was a small kid my family members would often call me gordita even though I was built like a twig (in other words it's just a simple joke and nothing too bad comes from it). Even now I call one of my skinny cats that too so..
    I just really hope they don't use that as her actual name in public. Like seriously imagine your cousin introducing you to a stranger as "little fattie". Then that's just disrespectful and rude

  • @Nevverhrrt
    @Nevverhrrt Рік тому +3

    One name you neglected to mention was Chacha (the one with the receding hairline) which is literally a classist misogynistic slur in many Latin American countries. It means "cleaning lady" but is an incredibly derogatory slang term to address a female servant or cleaner.

  • @Tekirai
    @Tekirai Рік тому +7

    I’m not even Latino and I’m embarrassed for the voice actress 🫣🤣

  • @miss_solaris8619
    @miss_solaris8619 Рік тому +9

    Something I find interesting is how all of the cultural issues somehow managed to slip past the team and into the final product-like I'm an animation student, the crew for animated shows are HUGE with the amount of departments and eyes on the project, with how fast the internet pointed out the problems the show had someone on the team must've noticed them too, so either there was no one with the knowledge of Latino culture to notice them, or if they were brought up those concerns were ignored. (see Alex Hirsch's post on how many issues Disney's S&P department had with Gravity Falls, like with how throughouhly that show got scrubbed at times it's very odd this show got past the checks)

  • @lemonpossum7894
    @lemonpossum7894 Рік тому +14

    This show could have slipped by with a little hiccup and then nothing else, as you said a mid but not bad program.
    But the voice actress had to literally strap a gas can to a box of C4 then detonate it by bringing up colonization and ethnic psychobabble, the topic was a slight grammatical error something that can be addressed, fixed, or tweaked to just be resolved but no no no "Fuck ze colonizer and fuck all of you I'm better" was the first thing the woman jumped to. Dios mio.

  • @Elvusmiw
    @Elvusmiw Рік тому +5

    That voice actress just ruined her career.

  • @bufferino7880
    @bufferino7880 Рік тому +2

    “Latinos with a big family trope is overdone” because it’s an accurate portrayal.

  • @marquisobscurite9104
    @marquisobscurite9104 Рік тому +17

    As the 1st generation Mexican born in the US, it feels.... well meh. Like I understand the messed up spanish, but i feel like its a mid sitcom with a mexican paint to make it unique. As for the VA, thank you for convincing many latinos to mot watch the show.

  • @alexgaro1675
    @alexgaro1675 Рік тому +3

    I cant believe in the pitch they really used "Latinx"

  • @Sleepy0173
    @Sleepy0173 Рік тому +11

    I agree it is mostly because of the PR. A lot of things in the content shown about the show itself can be brow rising but people were going overboard because, well, Disney has gathered a bit of an overall reputation and this show got caught at the current tail end of it. It was always gonna be on thin eyes. I think it could live with most of the content-related things pointed out, and despite the "no research was made" part, I think the author of the series has handled things not that badly.
    The VA is the one that definitely dropped the ball. Here's where I do disagree with something: I think she by all accounts will have to be replaced. The amount of bad faith she caused is not accidental and is past mistakes excusable by just ignorance. Even if she left it'd still be a show with doubt about how many other staff members think like her, and it'd still look like a product by the numbers with a lot of things to nitpick that can add up.... Her hebavior is just unreal and I actually feel bad for the author's sake a bit because of the trainwreck this VA caused.

    • @rootfish2671
      @rootfish2671 Рік тому +2

      Staying that Spanish is a colonizer language is wild and unhinged take

  • @junichiroyamashita
    @junichiroyamashita Рік тому +2

    3:00 Nacho by itself as a first name is very common here in Spain.

  • @WWLinkMasterX
    @WWLinkMasterX Рік тому +46

    Y'know how some people call sprinkles "jimmies"? Imagine if in China they made a sitcom about Americans, and then a bunch of Chinese people got offended on our behalf because one of the characters was named "Jimmy Berger."

    • @ashenpanda
      @ashenpanda Рік тому +31

      Except that Latinos like myself are upset about this. Now imagine if such Chinese show about Americans also name the neighborhood gun violence avenue for the place the Americans live.

    • @icecreamhero2375
      @icecreamhero2375 Рік тому +12

      ​@@ashenpandaAs an American I would be laughing like crazy.

    • @whiteasparagus4331
      @whiteasparagus4331 Рік тому +8

      Many Latinos are upset with this show including myself, I don’t get your point

    • @WWLinkMasterX
      @WWLinkMasterX Рік тому +3

      @@whiteasparagus4331 My point is, isn't "Nacho" just a normal shortening of a name like Jimmy is to James? And aren't nachos (the food) just named after some guy? Like the supposed "Earl of Sandwich"? Not the other way around.
      I just find it weird when Americans freak out that some normal guy is named Nacho.

    • @whiteasparagus4331
      @whiteasparagus4331 Рік тому +4

      @@WWLinkMasterX there isnt anything wrong with nachos name, it’s just some names that are wrong and sound weird in Spanish like gordita or cuquita

  • @goatscream8345
    @goatscream8345 Рік тому +4

    Nacho is a nickname given to people named Ignacio. The food is named after its supposed creator, Ignacio "Nacho" Ayala

    • @Truffs_Stuff
      @Truffs_Stuff  Рік тому +2

      Didn't even think about the food-name connection - that's wholesome! 😄

  • @Rynigiri
    @Rynigiri Рік тому +4

    Clarence’s character designs have some charm to them, like it can tell off a characters personality just by their shape language, like you can tell Clarence is the kind kid because he has lots of circles in his design
    Primos on the other hand tries too hard on the ugly character designs and doesn’t even try to give the characters a recognizable silhouette, like a girl named GORDITA (which means fat) doesn’t even look fat she is as thin as a cutting board.

  • @rodrick2716
    @rodrick2716 Рік тому +3

    Don’t forget the one named cha cha, which is a pretty derogatory word for maids or house keepers in Mexico

  • @ElanVR
    @ElanVR Рік тому +5

    What about Chacha?! CHACHA?! that is a despective way to call a maid on latin america :s

    • @Truffs_Stuff
      @Truffs_Stuff  Рік тому +1

      Oh damn, didn't know about that one! Yike 😬

    • @ElanVR
      @ElanVR Рік тому +4

      @@Truffs_Stuff yes! if you call someone chacha, specially women, that person is going to beat your ass, or if she happens to be your maid or your domestic worker, she will for sure poison your food, is really really ofensive.

  • @moth300
    @moth300 6 місяців тому +4

    Don’t rope Clarence into this 🥲

  • @juandiegotorres9632
    @juandiegotorres9632 Рік тому +5

    "Nacho" is an abbreviation of Ignacio. But yeah considering the context of "nacho" of the USA it sounds stereotypical

  • @area52ron
    @area52ron 6 місяців тому +1

    They also seemed to name the place this show takes place in after earthquakes from what I remember

  • @onepunchkirby7850
    @onepunchkirby7850 8 місяців тому

    god those beeps were so LOUD actually jumped up from my chair everytime it came up

  • @angelalycos2.076
    @angelalycos2.076 10 місяців тому +4

    Goodness, this seems to be a pattern lately. Actors and voice actors who flat out hate the thing they're part of.

    • @Truffs_Stuff
      @Truffs_Stuff  10 місяців тому +1

      Have you seen Rachel Zegler's interviews regarding Snow White? 👀

    • @angelalycos2.076
      @angelalycos2.076 10 місяців тому

      @@Truffs_Stuff I have, what a mess.

  • @courtneykermen
    @courtneykermen Рік тому +4

    Why not use more common mexican names? There are so many kids with names like juan, Roberto, Guadalupe, etc. I’m so bothered that more names aren’t used.

  • @Anne-ot8gq
    @Anne-ot8gq 11 місяців тому +1

    I appreciate you explaining the logic behind the names.

  • @bear4045
    @bear4045 Рік тому +1

    these characters look like the type of characters to send to people to roast eachother!

  • @CarlosSandoval-rz3ge
    @CarlosSandoval-rz3ge Рік тому +9

    We don't get offended by family guy or south park making fun of Mexican but this is straight up racist for Disney a company that call everyone racist just prove that are the racist. Ps one character is call chacha meaning maid get it!

    • @skystoyhunts7225
      @skystoyhunts7225 Рік тому

      Disney's Been racist for years but I do understand what you mean.

  • @tapinewoods3937
    @tapinewoods3937 Рік тому +8

    I hate the cliche designs in modern cartoons

    • @rootfish2671
      @rootfish2671 Рік тому

      The character designs are so uninspired and ugly, all the kids look like mutant monsters

  • @Justacheese
    @Justacheese 11 місяців тому +1

    Thank you for explaining everything so clearly in the vid.
    I understood everything you were talking about even though I was playing a game at the time and only listening to the audio.
    Also I don't think there is a single point of dead air in the vid. That's really impressive since I record and edit vids myself.

    • @Truffs_Stuff
      @Truffs_Stuff  11 місяців тому

      Awww thank you, that's really kind of you!!

  • @Otaku_Loaf
    @Otaku_Loaf Рік тому +1

    Great video Truff! I just discovered your channel from Arteice's short and I gotta say, good work! Keep it up!

    • @Truffs_Stuff
      @Truffs_Stuff  Рік тому +1

      Aaaaa thank you!! She's the best honestly 😍