your point about uniformity being a fear of fashion enthusiasts is sooo real i feel like that might be the thesis of this whole thing....and tysm for mentioning the book i'll be checking it out
It's fascinating how rapidly trends are consumed, oversaturated, then sent to landfills - often as quickly as they emerge. And how mass production techniques esp from fast fashion companies extract trends almost before they happen (Minority Report style), sending micro trend machines & their incredibly wasteful production methods into hyper speed. It creates an endless cycle of buy/consume/RIP/repeat that I think becomes so repetitive & fatiguing that most ppl just can't keep up with it, or they become incredibly annoyed w everyone looking the same lol. Just when they think they've figured out one trend, it's already been replaced w the next one. wow that got dark lol but fr I find fashion trends fascinating, but also highly dizzying & distracting from developing authentic personal style. They often also feel more like costumes or inauthentic cosplay to me, and can be presented as like a competition of who can mimic each one the best/fastest/most extreme etc. Sometimes it's fun and interesting, other times it's like.....whyyyyy haha
True, fast fashion companies have figured out a way to reproduce viral sneak peaks of clothes that will drop in two weeks before they even officially come out😭😭it’s bizarre, and oh yes it’s so bad for the environment. I do think with all these trends seemingly coming out of nowhere and all these “cores” it definitely does feel performative in the sense that people will turn anything with a stronger sense of identity into a trend if enough people catch on/want to assimilate that look: you become a part of the group of people that “get it”. Nobody wants to be left behind. It’s all pretty ugly
@@Dolcejeanz agreed 💯 there's also the influence of trend forecasting agencies who feed out-of-nowhere and often nonsensical trends to large fashion brands, who then throw them on the runway. Then like you said, Zara and other fast fashion companies replicate those pieces and sell them for $39, weeks before the luxury houses drop them lol. It's a surreal, yet very real, reality that sometimes feels like a watching a group of rabbits w bloodshot eyes hopping on a treadmill towards a pack of rotting carrots lol 💀
crazy analogy omg😭😭 and yeah trend forecasting companies are the same reason why so many mall brands feel like the have the same offering at the same time, it might be why all menswear at the top looks the exact same.
Honestly, loving fashion is becoming a trend but by becoming a trend it makes it less interesting. Adding keychains was interesting before but now I’m just thinking this person saw that on instagram or pinterest so it doesn’t have any personality, any impact. Rick Owens is so cool but after seeing all these people on instagram talking about him and wearing him in the same way made me doubt I will love his most famous pieces. It’s an over saturation. I know things about fashion, I’m still interested by it but people interested by fashion are becoming more and more likeminded in their style. To me fashion is a plus to your personality, it helps you have a new lens on life, on people’s choices to wear or not specific items but people are using this huge trend around fashion in itself, being a fashion lover being an identity only because you wear some trendy outfits even though you can love and understand fashion even in a random outfit because fashion creator are rarely wearing extravagant clothes and also because some people are poor but have good eyes and are interested by the subject. If you are trendy or fashionable I expect you to have interesting point of view on life, on literature, art, science, etc. Not being a void. But sadly it was common before to be an original with a special interest in a creator or appearance but also in other topics but it’s less the case right now. Fashion is not only clothes you have to understand the sociology, economy, political and ecological impacts. Trends are overconsumption it doesn’t mean it’s bad but « fashion » influencers are making seem like it’s personal, like you’re invented this, you’re part of a clique of interesting people. Sadly, it’s not the case. Red shoes everywhere ok but did you like red before ? Can you speak about anything outside of fast content ? Internet is interesting it helped me with discovering new cultures and habits and of course fashion became bigger to me with an internet access but it doesn’t mean it was always positive. When I saw people dressed as good as I used to see on internet I was excited and imagined they’re going to be interesting to talk to, having various interests, my hopes were crushed. I still don’t understand how it’s possible to have a beautiful mind for outfits but otherwise being closed to the world. You can sense it too; that’s trends hidden at personality.
I’m sorry because it’s not super positive but I feel quite desperate about this situation. Fashion always interested me since middle school and as someone who grew up in the countryside internet helped to learn about it. However, it’s really too much, it’s over saturated right now. Fashion “influencers” are just mirrors of each other but they don’t feel like it’s the case, they feel original. Even layering when I see that in the streets I want to cry because it’s obvious when it’s inspired by trends. Trends are not bad in themselves (except they are because overconsumption is bad) but yes I agree you should not take your inspiration only from them. Ok I wanted to be positive and I didn’t succeed I just don’t know what to say which could convince me that trends and fashion are still interesting.
This is genuinely so sad omg :( . I agree a lot with you when people who are super into fashion should also have a lot of strong interests elsewhere and fashion should be an enhancer for the daily experience of humanity, but there’s people who are based around vanity and there’s not much past what they’re wearing. It’s as if before the clothes they never lived a real life or had real interests, or they don’t live one. And yes as someone who’s dabbling in it, once you fully try to step your toe into the influencer realm it’s hard to differentiate yourself if all you do is Get ready with me or Outfit of the Day or Haul videos, or if u just wear brands like margiela and balenci and rick owens or certain buzzword pieces. Brands become certain tokens people can acquire even, like the social cool points you’ll get for wearing a certain brand but you can’t tell anyone about it or why you like it, it’s embarrassing.
@@Dolcejeanz yeah it feels cringe to say i like rick owens to other people. i just get associated with the opium only-ramone-wearing crowd or the insufferable archive crowd. i genuinely just love the clothes but saying it associates me with a bunch of other attributes. but its also not that deep. if ppl have that perception i can prove them wrong by just being myself and who gaf what they think tbh
I love your videos! This reminds me of a convo I had with someone not too long ago about how the internet plays a big role in fashion right now with some micro trends lasting only a week. I’m not going lie I always have mixed feelings on trends depending on how much I run into it (online or in person) or my personal interests. I do agree that having fun is #1 when it comes to personal style. And getting inspiration other ways instead of online is a great idea and can be fun to do too!
THANK YOU!!! And yeah when people say something like how tiktok “Ruined” a certain piece of clothing for them, i get it to an extent, because the authenticity and novelty of it is compromised.
I think the problem is that we get so wrapped up in trying to find our "true selves" when our identities have already been established. We are all products of our upbringing, class, and cultural background, so there's no need to explore this nebulous inner self that can easily be exploited by capitalists. This post-modern notion of cultural ambiguity where we can adopt all kinds of aesthetics at the expense of our own determined self engenders these feelings of emptiness and loneliness despite our social nature. Like companies want you to feel disconnected from the interconnected relationship between yourself and other human beings, which encourages you to participate in trends in hopes of finding a community. But since we are already determined, and will continue to be influenced by a myriad of external factors, fashion is simply an opportunity to articulate ourselves, not find what's "missing." But interestingly enough, when we do try to find our inner selves, we discover the universal quality of being human. It's big reason why I am a huge fan of Martin Margiela during his time at Hermès. There is something so uniquely poetic about giving high-class women the opportunity to explore their human selves without the imposition of adornment and blantantly female-coded aesthetics. Women, like men, prize comfort, quality, and practicality, and would also like clothing that compliment their everyday lives as human beings who labor and interact with society.
I agree with everything you said man. I love the way how you write🥲. But yeah, fashion could only be the vehicle of my expression not the gas itself, i already have all these things i’ve lived through and grown with to know who i am and what i’m all about, i don’t need clothes to tell it to me. I can’t be swayed by brands pushing the image of the type of person who wears their clothes because no matter who that person is i probably won’t be it, or at least i’ll be who i actually am first. And yes, fashion benefits off of people with fractured personalities who attempt to harness every bit of their being through something from a certain brand that is “so them” which is why people’s aesthetics change like wildfire nowadays, the wide variety of aesthetic cues that can be conveyed nowadays makes shopping for clothes virtually endless because you can be someone new everyday if you wanted to, with how accessible it all is. About the Margiela thing, i think the hallmark of. a great or very strong designer is the ability to provide something people never thought they’d need or something they never knew existed. In the context of Margiela’s hermes helping wealthy women find their comfort in clothing feeling beautiful and fashionable without objectification, Mcqueen also comes to mind, giving women the power to be fierce and revered but beautiful at the same time, removing the helplessness and flowerification of women that was going on in high fashion during his heyday. Jil Sander was pretty much Doing Margiela Hermes before him. Rei Kawakubo, Vivienne Westwood, Issey Miyake, even Phoebe Philo, the list of these type of timeless designers who enforced people with their desire to express their individual self in ways that existed like almost never before goes on. I think like all art, fashion when being approached with an artistic vision can evoke feelings, emotions and internal observation within people, and if it doesn’t do that it probably isn’t very profound. Thank u so much for the comment !!
i do agree that engaging in fashion trends should be enjoyed by anyone who wants to partake; my only issue with it tho is that they happen so fast and new trends are always coming and leaving, meaning people throw these clothes out which is just wasteful and no good for the environment. also with trends, people tend to use sites like shein which is just.... no good at all. it'd be nice if there was a way to make trends more sustainable
your point about uniformity being a fear of fashion enthusiasts is sooo real i feel like that might be the thesis of this whole thing....and tysm for mentioning the book i'll be checking it out
i feel like there could be a lot of thesis drawn from the vid and yes this is one of them, thank you, and yes this book is amazing
It's fascinating how rapidly trends are consumed, oversaturated, then sent to landfills - often as quickly as they emerge. And how mass production techniques esp from fast fashion companies extract trends almost before they happen (Minority Report style), sending micro trend machines & their incredibly wasteful production methods into hyper speed. It creates an endless cycle of buy/consume/RIP/repeat that I think becomes so repetitive & fatiguing that most ppl just can't keep up with it, or they become incredibly annoyed w everyone looking the same lol. Just when they think they've figured out one trend, it's already been replaced w the next one.
wow that got dark lol but fr I find fashion trends fascinating, but also highly dizzying & distracting from developing authentic personal style. They often also feel more like costumes or inauthentic cosplay to me, and can be presented as like a competition of who can mimic each one the best/fastest/most extreme etc. Sometimes it's fun and interesting, other times it's like.....whyyyyy haha
True, fast fashion companies have figured out a way to reproduce viral sneak peaks of clothes that will drop in two weeks before they even officially come out😭😭it’s bizarre, and oh yes it’s so bad for the environment. I do think with all these trends seemingly coming out of nowhere and all these “cores” it definitely does feel performative in the sense that people will turn anything with a stronger sense of identity into a trend if enough people catch on/want to assimilate that look: you become a part of the group of people that “get it”. Nobody wants to be left behind. It’s all pretty ugly
@@Dolcejeanz agreed 💯 there's also the influence of trend forecasting agencies who feed out-of-nowhere and often nonsensical trends to large fashion brands, who then throw them on the runway. Then like you said, Zara and other fast fashion companies replicate those pieces and sell them for $39, weeks before the luxury houses drop them lol. It's a surreal, yet very real, reality that sometimes feels like a watching a group of rabbits w bloodshot eyes hopping on a treadmill towards a pack of rotting carrots lol 💀
crazy analogy omg😭😭 and yeah trend forecasting companies are the same reason why so many mall brands feel like the have the same offering at the same time, it might be why all menswear at the top looks the exact same.
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Honestly, loving fashion is becoming a trend but by becoming a trend it makes it less interesting. Adding keychains was interesting before but now I’m just thinking this person saw that on instagram or pinterest so it doesn’t have any personality, any impact. Rick Owens is so cool but after seeing all these people on instagram talking about him and wearing him in the same way made me doubt I will love his most famous pieces. It’s an over saturation. I know things about fashion, I’m still interested by it but people interested by fashion are becoming more and more likeminded in their style. To me fashion is a plus to your personality, it helps you have a new lens on life, on people’s choices to wear or not specific items but people are using this huge trend around fashion in itself, being a fashion lover being an identity only because you wear some trendy outfits even though you can love and understand fashion even in a random outfit because fashion creator are rarely wearing extravagant clothes and also because some people are poor but have good eyes and are interested by the subject. If you are trendy or fashionable I expect you to have interesting point of view on life, on literature, art, science, etc. Not being a void. But sadly it was common before to be an original with a special interest in a creator or appearance but also in other topics but it’s less the case right now. Fashion is not only clothes you have to understand the sociology, economy, political and ecological impacts. Trends are overconsumption it doesn’t mean it’s bad but « fashion » influencers are making seem like it’s personal, like you’re invented this, you’re part of a clique of interesting people. Sadly, it’s not the case. Red shoes everywhere ok but did you like red before ? Can you speak about anything outside of fast content ? Internet is interesting it helped me with discovering new cultures and habits and of course fashion became bigger to me with an internet access but it doesn’t mean it was always positive. When I saw people dressed as good as I used to see on internet I was excited and imagined they’re going to be interesting to talk to, having various interests, my hopes were crushed. I still don’t understand how it’s possible to have a beautiful mind for outfits but otherwise being closed to the world. You can sense it too; that’s trends hidden at personality.
I’m sorry because it’s not super positive but I feel quite desperate about this situation. Fashion always interested me since middle school and as someone who grew up in the countryside internet helped to learn about it. However, it’s really too much, it’s over saturated right now. Fashion “influencers” are just mirrors of each other but they don’t feel like it’s the case, they feel original. Even layering when I see that in the streets I want to cry because it’s obvious when it’s inspired by trends. Trends are not bad in themselves (except they are because overconsumption is bad) but yes I agree you should not take your inspiration only from them. Ok I wanted to be positive and I didn’t succeed I just don’t know what to say which could convince me that trends and fashion are still interesting.
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This is genuinely so sad omg :( . I agree a lot with you when people who are super into fashion should also have a lot of strong interests elsewhere and fashion should be an enhancer for the daily experience of humanity, but there’s people who are based around vanity and there’s not much past what they’re wearing. It’s as if before the clothes they never lived a real life or had real interests, or they don’t live one. And yes as someone who’s dabbling in it, once you fully try to step your toe into the influencer realm it’s hard to differentiate yourself if all you do is Get ready with me or Outfit of the Day or Haul videos, or if u just wear brands like margiela and balenci and rick owens or certain buzzword pieces. Brands become certain tokens people can acquire even, like the social cool points you’ll get for wearing a certain brand but you can’t tell anyone about it or why you like it, it’s embarrassing.
@@Dolcejeanz yeah it feels cringe to say i like rick owens to other people. i just get associated with the opium only-ramone-wearing crowd or the insufferable archive crowd. i genuinely just love the clothes but saying it associates me with a bunch of other attributes. but its also not that deep. if ppl have that perception i can prove them wrong by just being myself and who gaf what they think tbh
I love your videos! This reminds me of a convo I had with someone not too long ago about how the internet plays a big role in fashion right now with some micro trends lasting only a week. I’m not going lie I always have mixed feelings on trends depending on how much I run into it (online or in person) or my personal interests. I do agree that having fun is #1 when it comes to personal style. And getting inspiration other ways instead of online is a great idea and can be fun to do too!
THANK YOU!!! And yeah when people say something like how tiktok “Ruined” a certain piece of clothing for them, i get it to an extent, because the authenticity and novelty of it is compromised.
I think the problem is that we get so wrapped up in trying to find our "true selves" when our identities have already been established. We are all products of our upbringing, class, and cultural background, so there's no need to explore this nebulous inner self that can easily be exploited by capitalists. This post-modern notion of cultural ambiguity where we can adopt all kinds of aesthetics at the expense of our own determined self engenders these feelings of emptiness and loneliness despite our social nature. Like companies want you to feel disconnected from the interconnected relationship between yourself and other human beings, which encourages you to participate in trends in hopes of finding a community. But since we are already determined, and will continue to be influenced by a myriad of external factors, fashion is simply an opportunity to articulate ourselves, not find what's "missing."
But interestingly enough, when we do try to find our inner selves, we discover the universal quality of being human. It's big reason why I am a huge fan of Martin Margiela during his time at Hermès. There is something so uniquely poetic about giving high-class women the opportunity to explore their human selves without the imposition of adornment and blantantly female-coded aesthetics. Women, like men, prize comfort, quality, and practicality, and would also like clothing that compliment their everyday lives as human beings who labor and interact with society.
I agree with everything you said man. I love the way how you write🥲. But yeah, fashion could only be the vehicle of my expression not the gas itself, i already have all these things i’ve lived through and grown with to know who i am and what i’m all about, i don’t need clothes to tell it to me. I can’t be swayed by brands pushing the image of the type of person who wears their clothes because no matter who that person is i probably won’t be it, or at least i’ll be who i actually am first. And yes, fashion benefits off of people with fractured personalities who attempt to harness every bit of their being through something from a certain brand that is “so them” which is why people’s aesthetics change like wildfire nowadays, the wide variety of aesthetic cues that can be conveyed nowadays makes shopping for clothes virtually endless because you can be someone new everyday if you wanted to, with how accessible it all is.
About the Margiela thing, i think the hallmark of. a great or very strong designer is the ability to provide something people never thought they’d need or something they never knew existed. In the context of Margiela’s hermes helping wealthy women find their comfort in clothing feeling beautiful and fashionable without objectification, Mcqueen also comes to mind, giving women the power to be fierce and revered but beautiful at the same time, removing the helplessness and flowerification of women that was going on in high fashion during his heyday. Jil Sander was pretty much Doing Margiela Hermes before him. Rei Kawakubo, Vivienne Westwood, Issey Miyake, even Phoebe Philo, the list of these type of timeless designers who enforced people with their desire to express their individual self in ways that existed like almost never before goes on. I think like all art, fashion when being approached with an artistic vision can evoke feelings, emotions and internal observation within people, and if it doesn’t do that it probably isn’t very profound. Thank u so much for the comment !!
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i do agree that engaging in fashion trends should be enjoyed by anyone who wants to partake; my only issue with it tho is that they happen so fast and new trends are always coming and leaving, meaning people throw these clothes out which is just wasteful and no good for the environment. also with trends, people tend to use sites like shein which is just.... no good at all. it'd be nice if there was a way to make trends more sustainable
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